Finally, a REAL signing at last

Thoughts on the Mesut Ozil deal



Finally, a REAL signing at last


The Mesut Ozil transfer can not only be seen as a brilliant signing but could also be regarded as a rejuvenation of Arsenal’s transfer policy when it comes to big name deals.

The Arsenal board actually managed to pull their finger out their enormous wallets on this occasion to secure the signature of one of Europe hottest talents after missing the boat on so many instances in the past. This time the signing was made and it can be suggested that this is the beginning of something new, as has been promised so many times in the past, but the cynic could argue that perhaps the signing was down to luck and circumstance rather that transfer business acumen.

It can most definitely be suggested that Ozil will fit seamlessly into Arsenal’s brand of football. The miniature German has technique, vision and ability to create numerous scoring chances in almost any scenario. The 24-year-old has talent which could be seen from his early performances in the Germany youth set up before he finally tore on to the world stage at the 2010 World Cup and 2012 European Championships. Furthermore, the Real Madrid dressing room are genuinely sad to see him go.

The former Real Madrid man’s transfer has come at a big price, but while the fee is long overdue for Arsenal his international manager’s reaction to the sale is a testament to the midfielder’s ability. “Incomprehensible” said Joachim Low when he found out, however, what is found to be even more astounding is the pure statistical facts behind Ozil’s performances in the last few seasons that have seen him surpass some of Europe’s finest players on paper.

It may be a few years too late but Mesut Ozil should offer the creative spark that the E******s has not seen since the club sold Cesc Fabregas to Barcelona and it was the man himself who told reporters how surprised he was that the German had been sold. Whilst Cesc revealed that he thought the international was the second best player in the Bernabeu dressing room behind Ronaldo, the Portuguese talisman among others in Madrid voiced his frustration; and it is no surprise either, as the facts speak for themselves.

In all competitions the Germany international racked up 72 assists between 2008-2013, four more than the Balon D’Or winner Lionel Messi. Furthermore, Ozil created more chances than any other player in Europe with figures that easily surpass the likes of Chelsea’s Juan Mata and Barcelona’s Xavi in the same time period.

The signing will have its critics however (Ozil is known as Germany’s most beautiful but frail flower). Another 5ft something technically gifted midfielder will do very little to bolster a largely criticised midfield set up which is already littered with players of the same vein. However for the following reasons the transfer can to be considered a breakthrough in the club’s negotiational-know-how and transfer policy.

The Mesut Ozil transfer could represent yet another proposed transition of Arsenal finally catching up with the rest of Europe’s elite. Firstly, in terms of completing big money transfers they have at least stated their intent to once again become serious challengers, while secondly, the club completed the transfer in exactly the way deadline day and marquee singings should be done.

Reports have suggested that the German playmaker visited Arsenal’s London Colney training ground a whole week before the transfer was announced in order to complete the first part of a medical and where he also posed for pictures with the home kit. Here the club played their hand perfectly which a) secured the transfer of Ozil b) did not alarm any of Europe’s big spenders and c) made sure Bale left for Spain as it is more than conceivable that had the Welshman’s deal to the Bernabeu fallen though, the former Werder Bremen star would not have been allowed to leave as Tottenham may have attempted to block the deal by forcing Bale to stay.

The successful attempt to hide the deal from rivals Tottenham, who were in the process of relieving themselves of Bale and procuring new talent is yet another minor victory that will most hopefully see the club back on the right path to making more inspired signings like this one. Mainly, any given moment where a dangerously growing Tottenham side can be kept in the dark about anything is always satisfying; but it is made even sweeter by the fact Daniel Levy apparently called Real Madrid President Florentino Perez in order to persuade him to call off the transfer. Shrewd Mr. Levy, very shrewd indeed.

This extra effort to shroud the deal in secrecy can most definitely be seen as a learning curve for Arsenal’s boardroom who should be quite frankly embarrassed after missing out on Gonzalo Higuain and making such a derisory and flamboyantly ridiculous bid for Luis Suarez. Still, it must be noted that the squad is still weak in terms of depth and must be added to in January.

Arsene Wenger apparently tried to sign Ozil seven years ago before he signed for Werder Bremen from Schalke, where he was brought up with his Turkish immigrant family. Arsene Wenger can now finally lift a wry smile after he reportedly called the midfielder and spoke to him in his native German in order to secure his biggest signing to date adding to the debate that Arsene Wenger is still one of the best men in the business even though results don’t show it.

Finally, Mesut Ozil is the signing Arsenal has been waiting for. He might not be able to end the trophy drought on his own but I sincerely hope he can prove to be the catalyst that will lift the quality of the overall squad and see Arsenal competing for honours once again. Most importantly the board finally pulled off a major coup, however, the cynic in me says Arsenal were a little more than fortunate that the Real Madrid president was so desperate to sign Gareth Bale as had it not been for him, Arsenal may never have got their man.


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  1. Chingford Gooner

    Sep 12, 2013, 14:37 #39152

    Problem is, with the way oure board are, Wenger has pretty much got himself another contract with this signing alone. If we win the league, then great, he deserves one. If he doesn't, (and he probably won't), then we have got another two years of Wenger mind games on our hands. Other transfers aside, I don’t think adding Ozil alone to this squad will win us the league. We needed more depth and experiences at the back. If Kozzer or Mertersacker pick up long term injuries, then we are doomed. If it coincides with a Sagna or Jenkinson injury then we are really stuffed. Our midfield now looks good but still a little light weight. I would have preferred the money to be spent on Fellaini to give us size and strength in the middle, at least one more centre back and another striker. I love the fact Ozil is here but one man cannot turn us in to a League winning side with the squad we currently have. Looking around us, the competition are just too strong. However many chances Ozil sets up, we are still reliant on Giroud putting them away. Walcott needs to develop a football brain fast too. He showed little improvement last season. He goes missing far too often for my liking. But if everyone ups their game, then who knows. We are reliant on the Ozil effect going throughout the team.

  2. colario

    Sep 09, 2013, 21:28 #39055

    'Wenger is still one of the best men in the business even though results don’t show it.' Says the writer of this.

  3. Stroud Green Road Boy

    Sep 09, 2013, 12:41 #39047

    @allybear & maguiresbridge - Agreed, we've had years of WC players going through the exit door, now finally one comes the other way and so many take up the peddled line that Wenger is a genius again and the main attraction at AFC, despite the top players leaving him in droves for years. Ozil has yet to kick a ball for us. Yet more Ozil quotes about Wenger being the reason he signed coming out I see. I wonder if it was part of his contract agreement, as I can't help feeling the ground is being prepared for an imminent contract extension announcement for the manager. Well, at least people should stop calling the Online Gooner 'negative' - it's being besieged with pro-Wenger articles and comments now.

  4. JM - LONDON

    Sep 09, 2013, 0:01 #39037

    Nice one WESTLOWER, my Dad would agree with you all the way1

  5. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 08, 2013, 17:22 #39036

    allybear, fans have short memories mate, especially his apologists, but others haven't.

  6. allybear

    Sep 08, 2013, 16:25 #39035

    I cant believe how carried away people are getting over 1 signing! Granted Ozil is a good player but not the Messiah! Lets see what difference he makes to the team over the season. Before anyone has a go at me i will still say that Wenger is not fit to manage the club anymore and should be replaced but i know he wont be and 1 major signing has exonerated him from past disasters like defeats to second rate teams and the terrible humiliation of an 8-2 defeat.

  7. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 08, 2013, 15:58 #39034

    Jason B, yes it's a signing we've been craving for for a long long time, and it's eventually arrived, unfortunately that one signing isn't enough, (regardless of the celebrations and whoops of joy surrounding it)it's suddenly not going to make us world beaters again (no matter what others believe)hopefully that will be remedied in the January window but if it wasn't in this one (and we had ample time to do it)i wouldn't get your hopes up, but we'll still get behind the team anyway just like we always do.

  8. Jason B

    Sep 08, 2013, 14:54 #39033

    Thrilled to bits that we have signed someone of Ozil's quality. The last time we signed someone of his quality must be many years ago (possibly Dennis Bergkamp?).If Ozil lives up to his reputation then more signings, like him will follow in the January window. Come on gooners,get behind the team,especially at home.We now have the new signing we've been craving for.

  9. BADARSE

    Sep 08, 2013, 9:48 #39032

    Roy, just switched on and seen your poignant message. I share your grief, I too lost a son. I celebrate him though, as I do all those who I have loved, and have gone, there were quite a few. I have said before that I am an atheist, or humanist sounds less abrasive, so my approach is different to many, whilst still being the same. I accept these occurrences as random acts of misfortune, yet it wounds me in the same way. I also know I shall never see him again, so rather finite. Whatever gets you through the night, as John Lennon sang, is OK. A poster of Frank kind of hits the top notes for me. Arsenal, like you, I see as my family. It is always there. I try to drape as many good times on the day my little one died. That is a red letter day now, (what other colour is there?)in my calendar. My solitary advice to you, do the same. Chin up Gooner, you made the right decision in sharing, that's what you do with family...

  10. colario

    Sep 08, 2013, 9:22 #39031

    Will Jones writes ' is yet another minor victory that will most hopefully see the club back on the right path' Since when as Arsenal not been on the right path? Only in the mouth of its detractors and those who meekly follow the call and 'bleat the bleat'

  11. Ali

    Sep 08, 2013, 8:46 #39030

    Signing Ozil is an excellent move but this doesn't make Wenger a genius all of a sudden. For me, he should be given a new contract only if he wins the FA Cup this season at least and shows ambition to build a team capable of winning CL and PL for the next seasons.

  12. DW Thomas

    Sep 08, 2013, 1:49 #39029

    I am an admitted pessimist (I like to think realist!), but even I am excited about Ozil. He is without doubt, class. Real class. Finally a replacement for Cesc. Someone who could be the catalyst to real enduring change. Yet, the jury is still out. With so many past disappointments in the last 8 years, I can only be a little optimistic. However, some of my old eagerness and excitement I used to get the Friday before games is returning. Ozil is a game changer, a true midfield maestro. His vision and technical ability can take over games. We have not had that since Cesc left. Problem was Cesc had Denilson and Diaby around him with some lazy, overrated others. Now we have Jack, a renewed Ramsey, and Santi. Not to mention Rosicky. That midfield with Ozil could well be the best around when it starts clicking, which I hope is right away. But, we still need a few others to sustain a season of competition for trophies. I don't think Giroud can carry the burden all season, even without injuries. So, it is exciting times, maybe Wenger has turned a corner. Time will tell!

  13. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 08, 2013, 0:51 #39028

    Andreas, lets hope your right, although the wengerites might have a different take on it.

  14. Andreas

    Sep 07, 2013, 23:46 #39027

    This is a signing that announces Arsenal to the elite football table. Can't recall united buyng a top player from barca, madrid, milan, or even munich. This is us saying in a Financial fair play world we can do this. A top top striker will follow in january, and cesc to return next summer after wenger moves on and guardiola or klopp step into his shoes. This is now a very real possibility and no longer a fantasy world. Arsenal are moving forward again

  15. jjetplane

    Sep 07, 2013, 21:57 #39026

    Ha ha Even Pires - the best player we ever signed and architect of some of our greatest moments needed some incredible players around him. Ozil - who so far has looked a great player when playing alongside true greats (such as step over Ron) seems to be taking a step down in his move to the Emirates. If ever the word Marquee summed up a deal, this is it. Whether the seasonal substance will match the hype, we will see. Whatever happens - Wenger is no longer a football manager and yes - I do like Ozil 'cause he's a leftie and he's Turkish to boot - that's sounds like my brand of Arsenal. One thing - why should everybody have to support their team in the same fashion - screw that. Rock your own boat!

  16. JAMIE

    Sep 07, 2013, 20:18 #39025

    I think that genius Wenger will surprise us all again with another marquee signing in the January window. We'll then cruise to the title playing the most breath-taking football seen in Old Blighty since we won the title back in 04.To finish off Wenger will then sign a new seven year deal just after we've scalped Barca in the Champs Final. Happy days.

  17. Lance

    Sep 07, 2013, 17:11 #39024

    I would say that Messi isn't really a Number 10, he just plays wherever he wants. Therefore Ozil is THE best Number 10 in the world. That's why he'll be wearing Number 11 for us.

  18. Seven Kings Gooner

    Sep 07, 2013, 17:10 #39023

    Roy : With you all the way with our skipper Frank - best thing Arsenal ever did was to sign him, the worse thing they ever did was to sell him. Guys, don't know if you have seen the Youtube sketch think it is called "The Sp*rs boardroom find out Ozil joins Arsenal" please watch it.

  19. Roy

    Sep 07, 2013, 15:32 #39022

    BADARSE and all - please don't read this and see it as a downer in any way and I'm certainly not looking for any sympathy, but your comments allied to a few other posts have made me want to share this when I'm not sure I should, but here goes. It the Frank McLintock thing and what it means to me personally. I first attended in 70/71 as a seven year old. You know that iconic photo of Frank on his teamates shoulders at Wembley with the FA Cup ? Well I've used it many times for inspiration when the going got tough.You know the sort of thing - don't fancy getting out of bed on a freezing dark early winter morning for work - look at the picture and it becomes "what's the matter with you you pussy, get out of bed and get to work !" Or a difficult decision to make ? Look at the picture and hopefully you'll make the right one. Stick with me. Seven years ago I unfortunately lost my son in a tragic freak road accident whilst visiting the mother - in - law on the Isle of Man. After my enforced extended stay, it was time to fly back on the same flight as his coffin. Whilst wandering aimlessly around the airport waiting for departure, I came across a temporary bookstall which the woman running it said she had been given special permission for a week only to promote her new business. As I browsed, nothing really jumped out and I was about to walk off when tucked away right at one end under something else was Franks autobiography, a tome I had always meant to buy but never got round to it. I paid a couple of quid and whacked it in my bag. When I got home and before the funeral, I gave it a read and though it is hard to explain, I strangely became a little more empowered during my darkest hour. You see, I had always been of the opinion that whatever happened to me in life, I would always have The Arsenal, and why should that change now ? There are thousands of Gooners out there that DO love the club and feel the same way, and although my example is somewhat extreme I hope you can see what I'm getting at as I'm in danger of rambling now. Great signing Ozil, can't wait to see him in the shirt. Come on you Gunners ! How's that for positivity ?

  20. BADARSE

    Sep 07, 2013, 13:43 #39021

    Have just come home and seen so many positive posts. This is music to my ears, keep it up guys, it makes such a refreshing change. Admit it, all those other lost souls out there. Even you are enjoying it, aren't you? Agree, or disagree to the extent this young man, Ozil, may influence the current crop of players, it is just pleasant to talk about other aspects of AFC, rather than the OKI KOKI of Arsene Wenger, in or out. radfordkennedy, your Dad was drunk! ha ha. Lovely story. We got the best of that deal, I think there was a bit of hanky panky going on with JR at the Lane. Seven Kings Gooner, Royal Madrid do not bare close scrutiny. Franco's team, helped unfairly by the state, and grabbing almost half of the financial TV pie, with the Catalaans sneaking the other half, means a distortion of the highest order in Spanish football. As for the scarring of '61, I can always counsel you buddy, if you need me. I come with a very stable persona, only twitching a little when 'Frasier' opens his condo door revealing the number as 1901, a cup-winning year for that lot. westlower, Frank was, and remains, the man I would walk into hell for. The most inspirational skipper ever, a true warrior of the game, who, a little like you, and a little like myself, just happens to love this Arsenal Football Club. Keep it going lads.

  21. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 07, 2013, 13:11 #39020

    Seven Kings, good shout gooners just never get tired of laughing at the spuds try to better us, and laughing even louder when they fail, and they never let us down, the list is endless,as you say it's why they were formed, and why they were put on this earth. I don't know what we'd do without them.

  22. radfordkennedy

    Sep 07, 2013, 11:39 #39019

    Westlower... there's been a few signings over the years that genuinely excited me.. Supermac,Hudson,Nicholas,Marwood and Smudge, but I think when I heard we got Overmars I genuinely felt we could win something

  23. Westlower

    Sep 07, 2013, 11:01 #39018

    My favourite all time transfer was when Frank McClintock joined Arsenal for a club record fee of £80,000. I've only ever seen one English league game when Arsenal weren't involved and that was Spurs v Leicester the season after Spurs won the double. Leicester beat them 3-2 and Frank scored twice. On my previous visit to the Lane in Feb 61 Spurs beat us 4-2. The game was the first time I'd seen Arsenal play. It was supposed to be a treat for my 14th birthday but I cried all the way home with my tail between my legs. Frank became my hero for getting revenge for me. He went on to be one of the most influential players to wear an Arsenal shirt. My only other visit to the Lane was in 1971, I started queuing at 2.0 for the 7.30 kick off and was one of the lucky ones to get in as there were far more locked out after the stewards panicked and shut the turn-styles early. Thank you Frank for the glory you helped bring to AFC.

  24. gooner247

    Sep 07, 2013, 11:00 #39017

    Ron, which signing, since Bergkamp, has made you go WOW!? Henry? Pires? Paddy? Arshavin? Wiltord? Santi? Özil is one of the very few players that I have coveted and the age that he's joined us, the winning experience that he brings, coming from a club that expects to win every single league game that they play. The players will love having him on board - compare that to all the politics that Bale has walked into - and if given the freedom in this Arsenal side as I'm sure he will, he's going to be deadly. Like I alluded to earlier, never mind being part of a side constructed around CR7 (I just love the fact that he's "angry"), come here and be the main man and flourish. The Arsenal is built on legends and Özil is going to be another.

  25. Seven Kings Gooner

    Sep 07, 2013, 10:54 #39016

    I find the whole background to the "Ozi" signing absolutely brilliant. You see my first year supporting Arsenal saw the "Spuds" win the double, I am, as they say, scarred for life. So when DL starts showing the footballing world how clever he is at clearing out all the cash in Madrid and then starts to tell them not to sell Ozil to Arsenal, I just fell about. How the hell did Mr Levy think Real were going to pay for Bale, rob a few banks? (actually they have already down that in the past) No Daniel, they had to raise money by selling their most creative player in order to meet your profligate demands. So let us recap : Spuds get 85 million for Bale and on the strength of that they blow 110 million on a range of players to finally nail fourth place? well actually no, Tottenham are not just going to finish in the top four, they are now talked about by all the pundits as possibly winning the Premiership! (Harry thinks they have the best squad in the league!) On Sunday 1st Sept, the "super squad" turns up at the Em*rates and stinks the place out with a brand of slow paced football that shows 110 million might not be enough. T*ttenh*m started out this transfer window determined to make a statement - they certainly have done that - they have made Arsenal stronger. As that well known Sp*d supporter Richard Littlejohn would say "you could n't make it up". For me it beats the half time announcement in the league cup semi final "how to get your cup final tickets" It dwarfs "Lasagnegate", the "ghost goal" and more recently the "downward spiral of negativity" and is on par with the taxi trip by Petit to Highbury. If the Spuds did not exist you would have to invent them - I have had a great week, just need another four "worldie" signings and who knows what might happen.

  26. mike

    Sep 07, 2013, 10:43 #39015

    Brilliant signing full stop - sat up and took notice of this guy when he scored for Germany against Ghana in the last world cup - over the last year Cazorla, Monreal, Padolski and Giroud - all good -even Flamini coming in to do a job from the bench until Arteta is fit was a shrewd piece of business. No one can argue that anyclub has bought better for the last two years or so - now finish it up by getting Suarez and Bender in the January window

  27. radfordkennedy

    Sep 07, 2013, 10:20 #39014

    Ron...I hope the comparisons with the bally signing prove to be wrong mate from what I remember old Bertie decided that all passing would go through bally which totally upset the way we played and nullified to some extent the effectiveness of wee Geordie.... badarse...just thought you might like to know that my dad was sitting in the mildmay tavern with some pals up at the bar when it came over the radio that jimmy Robertson was coming to arsenal in a swap deal,apparently they as one shouted the b####eds have got Graham only to hear that Jenkins was going in the other direction my dad laughed so much he actually fell from the bar stall hit his head on the footrail and ended up in the royal northern up the Holloway road!

  28. 1975

    Sep 07, 2013, 9:21 #39013

    We have ozil, podolski and meet plus a few German youths. Suggestions in press that Wenger is keen to go German again in jan. Gundogan plus a few others. Arsenal become German at the core. Wenger, who speaks German, then joins the board next summer to make way for yogi Lowe or klopp.

  29. BADARSE

    Sep 07, 2013, 8:08 #39012

    Come on Ron, this is your old and wrinkly buddy here, cut me some slack, and just listen to what I am saying, which probably gives a clue to other's words too. I would never deign to compare Ozil to Berkamp. Dennis was the single, most beautiful, footballing work of art that I will ever have the privilege of seeing, let alone celebrate as a player at my club. So we have that straight. I earlier likened my quiet thoughts regarding both men, in their early days, before any moves were made towards Arsenal, they were similar, secret wishes. Both men arrived at AFC, otherwise I wouldn't be typing this right now. A fluke, an amazing fluke for me, but just happenstance. The comparisons are odious. Bergy came to a club with wispy dreams of success , he helped to transform those into more substantial aspirations, then into reality.( I always think when Gooners go head-to-head in votes for Titi and the Iceman as best ever, the aspect I have mentioned should shade Titi's achievements, as Bergy's contributions started the engine). Mesut comes to a club with an illness. He may be the cure, the fact that any one player is heralded as a messiah is quite scary, and tells a tale in itself. However, a drowning man clutches at straws, yet if you weigh up the situation, Ozil is anything but a straw man. He will not be AFC's saviour, but he, like Dennis, may help to kick start Arsenal, though in entirely different ways. His fee? Wildly and ridiculously insane, no wonder a man with his feet rooted in common sense, like Arsene Wenger, struggles with the astronomical inflations. Yet, the same as Suarez? Half as much as Bale? Less than Torres? I think he is vastly undervalued by comparison. Lastly,a little like the Ball signing? You may well be right on that one Ron, we are both old enough to remember. Let's both of us hope it doesn't have that whimpering impact. I think this man Ozil has set the dressing room alight, that is worth a big part of the fee to me, psychological, and difficult to estimate, but let's not try to put valuations on everything, let's enjoy the moment, buddy. Now here's one for you, David Jenkins for Jimmy Robertson, mmm, ha ha.

  30. JM - LONDON

    Sep 06, 2013, 23:40 #39010

    A brilliant signing. I likened it to 'We paid off our mortgage so went and bought ourselves a fancy car'. Perhaps next year another new car or maybe a hot tub etc. What I would say is lets give the guy a chance to find his feet before he really falls in love with the Arsenal, DB had a questionable start at highbury and eventually came good, very good. Another couple of moves on the transfer market and next season will be global!!

  31. Ron

    Sep 06, 2013, 23:25 #39009

    All of this talk of it being like a Bergy signing is utter bollocks. No comparison between the two as players and although Bergys price was high in 95 this fee is astronomical even by todays lunacy. This is more like an Alan Ball signing. I just hope young Ozil doesn't end up as flat as Bally s signing proved to be. Godd luck Mesut. Good to have you.

  32. BADARSE

    Sep 06, 2013, 23:15 #39008

    gooner247, you are that ray of sunshine. People get lost in themselves. They travel an uncertain road and suddenly find the way is downhill. All too soon they are racing away, and it's too difficult to stop, or change direction. Barring one or two loonies who would start a row if they were in a room alone, the rest are Gooners. They have taken a different path to us, but perhaps Ozil will be a 'get out of jail' card for us all. It would be nice if we all came back under one roof. Too early yet to hang the bunting, but this is a massive signing which may just do the trick. Here's hoping.

  33. GoonerGoal!

    Sep 06, 2013, 22:21 #39007

    My sign off has now become a movement? GOOD! WENGER/GAZIDIS/KROENKE OUT! VIVE LA REVOLUTION!

  34. gooner247

    Sep 06, 2013, 21:55 #39006

    You know it, BADARSE. I was gutted when Real Madrid signed him after the last World Cup. I really wanted him then, and words can barely express how excited I am. It's always darkest before the dawn, and what a ray of sunshine to actually break it. CÖYG!

  35. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 06, 2013, 21:47 #39005

    Man Utd Killer, yes a player of Ozil's quality, and where he's come from, and what he's used to, will have big ambitions, and the managers record over the last eight years wasn't exactly a big incentive, but i doubt any promises were made (they weren't with others) more like OGL told him to trust him, or maybe we were the only option at the time. Lets hope we do build on this and his ambitions are realised here, but as you say we haven't in the past and it will be no surprise if we don't this time either. Your right one things for sure just like a few before him he'll certainly not hang around here and settle for mediocrity.

  36. Danny B

    Sep 06, 2013, 21:32 #39004

    This has to be ozils chant Ozi ozi ozi ohi ohi ohi ozi ohi ozi ohi ozi ozi ozi ohi ohi ohi If its not why not

  37. BADARSE

    Sep 06, 2013, 21:05 #39002

    gooner247, Bergkamp? You and me too friend. The feeling I had of him before he signed was,'Oh, if only this man wore an Arsenal shirt!' A few years later he did, and it still seems unreal. A few years ago I saw this young man Mesut, and had a similar, secret wish, to see him as an Arsenal player. I nearly fell over as the rumours turned into a real bid. I almost held my breath in case it all went boss-eyed at the last minute. It didn't! I so hope this is the new dawn we have waited for, in the meantime I am going to milk every golden moment, and we have many in store. I invite you to enjoy every silky touch, and deft through ball this man delivers. One more Big Gun is about to join the gang.

  38. gooner247

    Sep 06, 2013, 20:45 #39001

    I'm a massive DB10 fan, Our Bergkamp, Who art in heaven etc., and I really think we have signed GÖD11. When I heard his first words after the signing, 100% faith in me etc., I kinda thought.. he's going to be the one to bang them in. Never mind the assists stats, goals are better, and I reckon in 3 years time, £42.5 million is going to seem like the bargain of the century. AW doing what I love him most for.

  39. Greg71

    Sep 06, 2013, 20:35 #39000

    @lord froth a good post which should strike across both sides of the Wenger divide,i just feel that its the hope over the past 8 years with the all too familiar results which is the largest part of all our frustrations !

  40. Man United Killer

    Sep 06, 2013, 20:07 #38999

    For Ozil to have signed for us over Man United despite our trophy drought over the past 9 years, one can only presume some promises were made.A sportsman of Ozil's caliber and career history not only wants to make Champions league every year but actually want to win trophies.I assume one of the promises made to him was to build a team capable of geuninely challenging for trophies.Otherwise what would be the point of joining Arsenal.Would you really put your career on the line just because a prospective manager speaks your language?Go figure!Here I am hoping we build upon the Ozil signing in January.I won't hold my breath given the history over the past 8 years.If we dont bring in more world class players in the next year it will be bye bye Ozil.

  41. Stevieo

    Sep 06, 2013, 19:26 #38996

    Yes, the Ozil transfer represents yet another period of transition. What's this, the 5th year we've been in transition? But I don't think it's a transition to catch the rest of Europe, but to fight off any threats from those attacking our 4th place holy grail. I'd be curious to know if we buy another player next summer, whether that becomes phase 2 of the current transition, or will it represent the start of a new transition? It's all good stuff...

  42. BADARSE

    Sep 06, 2013, 19:22 #38995

    Well said, Green Hut! Tell me, I would love to know, do you put as much energy and commitment into politics, or any other more mundane aspects of life? 'The club I love'. Wow! It does it for me every time.

  43. Green Hut

    Sep 06, 2013, 18:51 #38994

    BADARSE- And I promise I never will, at least until the club I love is free from tyranny.

  44. Westlower

    Sep 06, 2013, 18:16 #38993

    Lord Froth, You are correct.London Brige is in Lake Havasu City, Arizona. The story goes that the Yanks bought it believing it to be Tower Bridge. Not sure how much truth there is in the story. Keep the faith as we'll be a strong outfit when the injured troops return.

  45. Lord Froth

    Sep 06, 2013, 17:58 #38992

    Westlower - isn't it London Bridge in Arizona? Anyway, some interesting points of view here. I've personally been in the Wenger out camp for the last two seasons as at first I could see the logic in the youth project as we'd just built the stadium etc. However, more recently as we we often heard what the club's turnover was and that there was this huge pile of unspent dosh available to improve the playing squad I rapidly got fed up with the leadership at Arsenal and joined many of you in not enjoying the football. I don't want Wenger out because I don't like the man it's becuase of his questionable decisions and tactics but as I am not consulted by the club about who the manager is I do want him to succeed and would love to see him lift a trophy again for us. I don't want to be depressed when it comes to watching Arsenal and I do want to enjoy it so this is a big step in the right direction. I do feel that some fans have been (rightly) unhappy for so long that all of the joy has been sucked out of them. We all know that this big transfer might be a one off but it might not. It's good to have some hope again and win or lose to me, the hope and anticipation is what it's all about. Knowing that we are doing our best to compete again will be great so let's see how the team does and re-evaluate during the next transfer window.

  46. CT Gooner

    Sep 06, 2013, 17:39 #38991

    @ Westlower: Am I wrong, I thought you said we were no longer a selling club? If that's the case and I assume our next manager will take full advantage of our big stadium and high ticket costs to sign our players to long term contracts; how does that allow anyone to poach our players??

  47. BADARSE

    Sep 06, 2013, 17:20 #38990

    I have really enjoyed the debate gentlemen, stalwarts like Alsace, Der Projekt, Canada, and to you my friend, westlower, I have read your posts recently with much interest. Then Green Hut comes along and makes me smile, you never let me down!, now I am laughing out loud because of Ted's comment. Class gentlemen, class! How enjoyable to read intelligent debate, conducted in a courteous manner, but that's enough talk of dwarf throwing, back to the football bun-fight.

  48. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 06, 2013, 16:23 #38989

    Yes Ozil was a brilliant signing alright a big surprise to everyone,some are describing it as a coup, some are even describing it in the same breath as when the man himself DB was signed, personally I'll wait and see if he gives as much and turns out as good but hopefully he does. Would Higuain or Suarez etc, have been see as such? because if we'd landed any of them would we have bought Ozil? i think it's fair to say we wouldn't have. We have a long long way to go yet before we catch up with the rest of Europe's elite, one big signing suddenly doesn't make us players again, we are going to need more of those before we're considered in the elite and become serious challengers, and winning honors instead of going pot less for going on nine years might have helped and would help, wenger still one of the best in the business even though results don't show it? it's a good job you left that statement to last.

  49. Man United Killer

    Sep 06, 2013, 16:20 #38988

    Der Projekt ist Kaput you must have been looking on my shortlist calling those players out.You missed out on one though- New Castle's Moussa Sissoko.Less glamorous on paper but drenched in quality on the field.

  50. Westlower

    Sep 06, 2013, 16:19 #38987

    CanadaGooner, Yes it hurts to lose to lower division teams but in my opinion the domestic cup competitions are an unwanted distraction that clutter up the fixtures. We wisely tend to blood youngsters & players returning from injury in the Cup games. I feel it's an advantage to get knocked out early if we want to stay in contention in the PL & CL. Since the formation of the PL & CL the Cups have become secondary competitions. It hasn't done winners Birmingham, Portsmouth & Wigan much good since their victories! I bet they'd rather still be in the PL. A team can only go to the well so many times, particularly when we have so many players away on International duty. The 14 players away at present won't have any prep time re the away game at Sunderland next week. It becomes a vulnerable game for us as the majority of the Sunderland team will be rested and fresh as daisy's. Question for people who want AW out; What's to stop him poaching our best players should he next manage PSG?

  51. Ted

    Sep 06, 2013, 16:05 #38985

    Can we stop all this foolish talk and get back to dwarf throwing in Cornwall.

  52. Der Projekt ist Kaput

    Sep 06, 2013, 15:52 #38984

    Westlower: Nice one - thanks for the response and lol Arizona. Here's to Arsenal and German world domination! - er, hang on.....

  53. CanadaGooner

    Sep 06, 2013, 15:40 #38983

    @ Westlower - it's the trophies we're losing to Birmingham and getting knocked out by Bradford and Blackburn that we're all worried about mate. 'The New Stadium' cant be an excuse for losing to those teams.... (and it's happened repeatedly: SO, WHY IS WENGER STILL IN A JOB???); you can only bank on past successes for so long!

  54. Green Hut

    Sep 06, 2013, 15:33 #38982

    Looks like the Cult Of Wenger mantra has recently changed from 'It's all the board's fault' to 'It's a work in progress, wait till the next transfer window, you'll see'. I wonder/dread how many times we'll hear that in the years ahead. Might as well get comfy, we could be here some time.

  55. Westlower

    Sep 06, 2013, 15:23 #38981

    Der Projekt ist Kaput (there's only one), I like your choice of players, particularly Marco Reus, unfortunately he's under contact until 2017, but there are rumours afoot. Maybe Ozil coming here will tempt other Germans to follow suit. I'm sure the upcoming games against Dortmund will be an opportunity to sound out the likely hood of future transfers. Lewandowski would be the icing on the cake. My 'new stadium' comment was to remind people of the shackles constraining Wenger in recent times. I don't doubt for one moment that he wouldn't give his right arm for a side full of World class players. PS. What's your best price for Tower Bridge. I've already been to Arizona to view it (USA joke).

  56. chris dee

    Sep 06, 2013, 14:07 #38978

    The guy is world class and I believe the rest of the players (and the crowd) will raise their game after this signing. A trophy will be won this year.

  57. Der Projekt ist Kaput

    Sep 06, 2013, 13:56 #38977

    Westlower: Who would we have now? Now there’s an issue! He should have been replaced years ago with a manager with a winner mentality (not a mindset of 4th place and cup involvement until February is good enough )and tactical nous like Mourinho, Ancelotti, or van Gaal. At the moment, I personally would go for Jurgen Klopp along with some former Arsenal no-nonsense players such as Keown/Bould. For a club the size and stature of Arsenal, managers such as these are not impossible to have (after all, you think we have the best manager in the world, don’t you). You say players would depart in sympathy if Wenger left? That remark is so naive I’m tempted to ask if you want to buy Tower Bridge from me. The only ones who would cry if Wenger left surely would be the players on contracts far in excess of their actual abilities and who would face short shrift from an ambitious manager/board. The players that’d stay would, I suggest, be the best ones who finally would have a manager that believed in the club’s assets being on the pitch and a desire to win. Who would I buy? Take your pick from several including: Casillas (or Buffon years ago), Neuer, Steckelenberg, Baines, Schweinsteiger, Lahm, di Maria, Reus, Lewandowski, Fellaini, Javi Martinez, Benzema, Robben, And oh yeah, Fabregas and RvP. You think a shopping basket containing names like these is impossible? I say for a club like Arsenal NOT to contain such players, it is nothing short of criminal. The money is there for 4, 5 or 6 of these players – it’s always been there – we were told so. One man chose not to spend to prove a point and in the meantime we’ve won nothing and had a team littered with dross. You don’t think so? Consider this: What other top team in the world would think it perfectly acceptable for someone like Almunia to be club captain? If the new manager failed to get Arsenal into the top 2 in the first season I would not demand his head on a platter. But I would expect a team with belief, desire and a palpable sense of being contenders – not a collection of blokes falsely being described as having mental strength as though that was the most important thing a player could possess. I concede that it’s possible that a new manager could mean a slight downward dip (I disagree with your choice of word: ‘spiral’) – BUT not if we had a quality manager like those listed above. As for funding – refer to previous point. Your ‘question’ about a new stadium deserves no response. PS: I only post under this name.

  58. CT Gooner

    Sep 06, 2013, 13:31 #38976

    I understand everyone's excitement at signing Orzil, and I share in it. But I think many of you "believers" are getting a tad carried away with what it means to our future intent. I have the feeling the reason we got him is simply because real shopped him to anyone to recoup some of the bale money, I understand Utd were offered him too! That said, we did have to move mountains to pull the trigger! So I'm focusing on how things go on the field, as like many, I'm concerned we get any injuries up front or at the back. Sorry, but I've been conditioned to be pessimistic, and I've not seen enough to change that....

  59. CanadaGooner

    Sep 06, 2013, 13:26 #38975

    @radfordkennedy - luck had nothing to do with it mate. Fergie managed his own arrogance and self-importance and that's why he kept winning. Wenger on the other hand (after the invicibles year) thought he was a god; he cleared out players like Pires who could so easily have given another 3 seasons, while the young players developed (as Fergie did with Giggs, Scholes and others): you need those experienced players to help the young lads grow. But at Arsenal, we cleared out Keown, Parlour etc., and were left with good players like Fabregas and Clichy, who simply cant close the deal, as they've never really won anything before, and then Wenger put his arms around them, and told them 4th place was ok. And they believed him and got sucked into that permanent state of mind

  60. D

    Sep 06, 2013, 13:19 #38974

    Lets hope he doesn't get injured on International duty

  61. GoonerRon

    Sep 06, 2013, 13:19 #38973

    If Ozil's signing has the same effect on our players as it has had on the vast majority of fans (i.e. increased confidence, spring in the step, a feeling that we are a top club etc) then we could be in for a very interesting season.

  62. radfordkennedy

    Sep 06, 2013, 13:18 #38972

    Canada....I understand what your saying believe me.but as far as fergie goes he in my opinion was very fortunate that the group of kids that came into his side..beckham butt scholes and giggs and possibly the nevilles all proved to be exceptional talent and lasted a very long time'I'm sure they didn't expect more than two of those to improve the way they did'and by adding a cantona here a cole and a ronaldo there he managed to re-juvinate his teams over a long period of time. In our case project youth struggled because with a few exceptions none of those players were able to make the transition from teenage starlet to real proven talent and in my opinion this is because we are not as much as we like to think we are a big european club we have simply been unable to attract real world class players we got lucky with players such as TH and DB neither of whom could get a game at juve or inter. But my point is that at this moment in time we are not reliant on luck or a second rater playing out of his skin we have for the first time that I can remember the luxury of not being 4th or 5th in the pecking order of choice but we can actualy throw money at players to join us

  63. DANNYJW

    Sep 06, 2013, 13:16 #38971

    I don't think anyone will deny Ozil is a magnificent transfer. My problem is we are one injury/suspension to Giroud away from having no recognised striker at the club. I may be proved wrong and Bendtner may come back rejuvenated and Sanogo may improve rapidly but it is a risky policy to pursue.

  64. Stroud Green Road Boy

    Sep 06, 2013, 13:13 #38970

    Reasonable says: "we then have well run companies like Arsenal and Bayern. if it was a complete level playing field then i think Wenger would still come in as 1 of top 3 managers around" It's interesting that you compare Bayern and Arsenal. The comparison is valid. But Bayern won the European Cup last year, operating in the same environment as AFC. Draw your own conclusions.

  65. Gaz

    Sep 06, 2013, 12:58 #38969

    @Hamza: Interesting you make the comparison with Robinho/City as I thought the exact same thing myself. Obviously I agree with all of those who say this window was in general a bit of a disaster but in my opinion this one signing is simply so big that it trancends the window in general and means far far more to us than 'just another signing'. For me it signals real intent and rather than us slipping back into the bad old days of average signings I now expect us to be looking at stella players on a regular basis. I've also mentioned this before but I reckon Ozil will really inspire those around him and quite simply will make the 'job' of supporting Arsenal far more enjoyable for fans. I've been critical for so long I'd forgotten what it was like to really look forward to a game and if nothing else Ozil has reckindled some of the passion I'd lost over the past few years. Does this mean I'm now fully behind Wenger? Hell no! Theres also no way I want him signing a new deal until the end of the season at least and ONLY if he's earned one. But for the first time in many years theres a very small glimmer of light as far as my opinions on him go although I know that might change very quickly. I As I've said to many people over the past few days whilst I feel I've had every justification I've really hated being so critical as its meant I've just not enjoyed whats been such a very big part of my life for so long. Guess thats why I'm seeing this Ozil deal a a 'gamechanger' rather than just another signing...

  66. CanadaGooner

    Sep 06, 2013, 12:57 #38968

    @ Reasonable? - did you start following arsenal to watch us win trophies or were you lured to the club because of our economic model and balance sheet? when I went to my first Arsenal match at the tender age of 3 years, I wasnt checking the club's financial records, I was simply interested in seeing us play and beat our opponents.

  67. Reasonable ?

    Sep 06, 2013, 12:48 #38967

    did you see article on sky? Real borrowed 100m euro from Bankia to buy Bale. Bankia is the consortium of 7 bankrupt spanish banks that were bailed out by the govt / eec. Real debt is now 600m euros. So we have Real and Barca that are so important in spanish society that they have institutional support. we then have russian/arab oligarch ownership. we then have well run companies like Arsenal and Bayern. if it was a complete level playing field then i think Wenger would still come in as 1 of top 3 managers around ?

  68. CanadaGooner

    Sep 06, 2013, 12:19 #38966

    @RadfordKennedy - point taken. we all said exactly the same 6 years ago when Wenger began 'project youth': give him time; while fergie was blending youth with experience and kept winning trophies while re-inventing his team. The problem here is that Wenger's projects are doomed and destined to fail, because he has accepted a lower standard and 4th place as his personaly victory. The rest is simply a pile of excuses! Because in that same time-span of 9 years; cardiff, wigan, birmingham and several other teams with a fraction of our resources and our wage bill have won trophies @ Westlower - yes, I assumed you were the former (clever). The reality is quite simple folks; Wenger got carried away after the 'invincibles' season (and it's only human; as most of us fans got carried away along with him; and we couldnt see what was coming - an arrogant, deluded fool, who now things the club is all about him, and that champions league qualification is all we deserve). Love him or hate him, he is now only as efficient as filling the manager's post with gunnersaurus!

  69. DANNYJW

    Sep 06, 2013, 12:18 #38965

    'Arsene Wenger is still one of the best men in the business even though results don’t show it.' Does that mean we won the league last season even though results don't show it???

  70. radfordkennedy

    Sep 06, 2013, 12:06 #38964

    Canada...must everyone who doesn't quite agree with you be called an idiot or moron,we are after all a band of brothers in the arsenal family.I firmly believe that ozil is the first piece of the jigsaw which with any luck will be added to if not fully completed come the end of january and whilst I'm not AW's biggest fan I'm prepared to give him the chance to re-invent this team with the players I'm sure he's already be given the nod on

  71. Westlower

    Sep 06, 2013, 11:49 #38963

    CanadaGooner, Vive La Revolution has been the sign off message from GoonerGoal, Der Projekt, Radfordmachine. Maybe it's one and the same person under a different user name? I was under the impression the 'Wenger Out' brigade had joined forces to create subversion at AFC. On a personal note I prefer your description of me as 'clever & reasonable' to ' a blue faced deluded moron.'

  72. Toss

    Sep 06, 2013, 11:34 #38962

    This site is like a weather vain rather than a signpost. Last week it was all 'sack Wenger, he won't anyone'. This week it's 'whoppee! We're gonna win the league'. Some insight please

  73. CanadaGooner

    Sep 06, 2013, 10:06 #38959

    @ Westlower: I am not from the vive revolution (whoever those are)I am from the "vive common-sense" group, but I can quite easily answer your questions as follows: (1) Vision of the future: exactly as it was before Wenger came in as an unknown quantity in 1996 (life goes on!) (2) I would choose anyone capable as a manager (how do you think Dein chose Wenger in 1996? and more importantly, how do you think Man Utd ended up with Moyes?). There are several capable options out there, who would do very well at Arsenal. An obvious choice is the current Swansea manager + bould or keown or adams. Wont be a greater gamble than the one we took in 1996 bringing Wenger in (3) Depart in sympathy with Wenger leaving? dont be absurd! these players are mercenaries! they play for the money - PRONTO. Any of our players would readily go and join Man Utd tomorrow, if the money is right. (4) if the new man comes in and goes 9 years without winning anything, YES, he should be sacked! No manager in a respectable club should be in a job after 3 seasons of winning nothing consecutively. This is a result oriented business! (5) Nobody denies or argues against the fact that the transfer market is very tight right now; but we dont want to be lied to! if we're not buying, fine. Just stop selling all our useful players (clichi, van persie, fabregas, nasri etc) and promise to bring in quality players and then tell us later on, we shouldnt bother. If you're as clever and reasonable as you sound, you will accept these answers as FACT. if you're one of those deluded morons on here, you will blindly argue against, till you're blue in the face

  74. Westlower

    Sep 06, 2013, 9:46 #38958

    Would someone from the Vive La Revolution share your vision of the future should your wish be granted and AW leaves at the end of the season. The questions I'd like answered are: Who would you choose as the new manager? ; Assuming the present squad remained in tact and not demanded transfers in sympathy with AW leaving, who would you buy next summer? Should the new man fail to reach an acceptable position (1st or 2nd) in PL, would you demand he should be sacked? What would you do if we slipped into a downward spiral of bringing in a new manager annually? Would you extend his honeymoon period to a second season if he promised to buy a new GK, CB, DM & a top class striker? How would you fund the new transfer activity? As the Emirates is starting to look a bit dated would you expect the new manager to build us a new stadium but only if he can guarantee keeping us in the CL on a very limited budget?; The grass is not always greener after the revolution!

  75. Adam

    Sep 06, 2013, 9:26 #38957

    Ole Ole Ole Ole, Ozil, Ozil.

  76. CanadaGooner

    Sep 06, 2013, 9:25 #38956

    Question is: is that him wearing all these jerseys or are these computer-animations? ha ha ha. Fellow looks different in every picture I've seen so far: wonder what he really looks like? ha ha ha. Anyway, jokes aside, I am looking forward to going to all the remaining home games this season and 2 more away games, to watch this magician play! he's a tantalizing footballer and one can only hope he's allowed to work his magic at arsenal

  77. Ted

    Sep 06, 2013, 9:06 #38955

    How dare you call our new signing a dwarf. When I lived in Cornwall my local pub the Mucky Duck had a garden games event each year, which included dwarf/midget/leprechaun throwing. The rules stated that a dwarf/midget had to be under 5 feet male 4 feet 8 female or under 5 feet with a beard and an Irish accent for leprechaun. Ozil at 5 11" is 1 inch above the average Englishman and would not qualify.

  78. Hamza

    Sep 06, 2013, 8:50 #38954

    Remember Robinho signing for City on deadline day some years ago? It was a statement of intent... A first showing of their hand. In the subsequent windows they went bananas and won the league. Now I'm not saying we need/should to do what they did, but it just makes me wonder if there are parallels to be drawn here. Perhaps Ozil is the first one in, and it will just be the catalyst for more quality to come. Cos any "top top top" quality out there has probably just sat up and taken notice of the 2nd best No.10 IN THE WORLD signing for us... Bulls**t and politics aside, that's worth €50m. Ok, we can counterbalance this by talking about the areas that The Arsenal failed to strengthen, but let's look at this deal in isolation for a second: Messi is impossible to sign, so we get the next best player IN THE WORLD who wears the same number on his back. Let's not sour this with malice, and celebrate the triumph for a moment. And let's welcome him into our team and make him know what it is to play for a Real (see what I did there) Football Club. You can start moaning again when we lose a game or fail to win when we should have... until then, I'm holding on to the hope that Ozil is our signal-of-intent that way Robinho was to City. (by the way, if anyone wants to tell me I'm the gullible sheep that Stan/Ivan/Arsene loves, so easily fooled by one signing, let me just say I don't pay for anything Arsenal-related cos I live 10,000km away from North London so that renders you null and void)

  79. Jammathon

    Sep 06, 2013, 7:25 #38952

    He's 5'11. No midget.