Arsenal’s title hopes stretchered off with Johan Djourou

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Arsenal’s title hopes stretchered off with Johan Djourou

Djourou: Could not afford to lose him too


You can weigh up the arguments about the psychological damage of the last fortnight. Three cup exits and two dropped points at home to Sunderland in the league. But ultimately, the moment Arsenal’s season definitively hit the buffers was the instant Johan Djourou dislocated his shoulder. The central defensive partnership of Koscielny and Squillaci has not served the team well this season, and there is no reason to assume it’s suddenly going to improve now.

In January, Arsene Wenger took a gamble on one of two things happening before the end of the season. Thomas Vermaelen returning to match action or Johan Djourou remaining fit. Still, I have good news. There is something in the region of £40 million in Arsene Wenger’s player trading account. 70% of the profits from the Highbury Square development have to go into this pot of money for the manager to strengthen the team with spending on transfers and player wages. If it remains untouched and continues to grow, it enhances the value of the club, so that come the time Danny Fiszman and Stan Kroenke decide to cash in, their shareholdings will be worth substantially more, as a buyer will immediately have millions to splash on players. So Arsenal may have a p*ss poor central defensive partnership with which to see out the season, but the two directors who between them control the club have made a sound investment and their kids will never have to work a day in their lives. Who needs trophies? Quite what benefits Arsene Wenger gains from this aside from a fat wage for winning nothing I am uncertain, but I imagine, come the day he departs, his golden handshake will probably be able to buy a season ticket one year for most of those currently residing in the lower tier. I have more good news. Expect ticket prices to rise this summer. The club are going to make even more money next year.

Fans would rather see profits spent on the field. However, the board, the Arsenal Supporters Trust are constantly informing us, are custodians of the club. I see them as investors. (Someone from the Trust has subsequently emailed to tell me – ‘The AST doesn’t always say the Arsenal Board are custodians, we say it is what the Board and ownership structure should be. Important difference’) There is all this talk about self-sustainability and a good business model, but here’s some news for you. We could have bought both a decent centre back and quality cover for Alex Song either last summer or in January and still had money in the bank. The club’s lack of ambition for anything more than enhancing its financial value has been exposed by the injury to a key player for whom there is no sufficient first team back up.

Yes, I know we are three points off the lead with a game in hand, but please look at the stats. When Squillaci and Koscielny are paired, Arsenal struggle. The team can get away with one of these two partnering Djourou or Vermaelen, but together they are a complete disaster. And whilst I am on the subject, could someone please teach Kieran Gibbs to defend? The way he was left for dead for United’s second goal had me hiding behind the sofa by the time it was replayed on the box. I don’t blame Gibbs, I blame the coaching methods. Arsenal don’t do defence.

The Gunners have been knocked out of the Champions League by Barcelona and the FA Cup by Manchester United at Old Trafford (even with a midfield consisting of two full backs, John O’Shea and a midfielder from the stiffs… and no Rio Ferdinand). There is no disgrace in this. The disgrace is that – having seen Vermaelen break down several times in his attempts to play again – the manager took the decision to try and get through the season with three centre backs that are only any use as long as Johan Djourou (historically injury prone) is one of those taking the field. I guess if your glass is half full you can argue that he might be back in a month’s time and that by 12 April the club will only have had to play fixtures away to West Brom, Blackpool and at home to Blackburn. The injury looked worse than that, but time will tell.

Of course Arsenal can still win the title, but as always happens, too many injuries mean too many back up players and – in spite of this being Arsene Wenger’s best ever squad (ahem) – this will lead to points being dropped. I think now that the title decider is probably Chelsea’s visit to United on 7th May. Certainly United’s visit to north London the weekend before is now a gimme for Ferguson’s men. I apologise for being defeatist, but I am afraid we have seen this all before. Great chances to win the title in 2008 and 2010 were undone by too many back-up players being called upon and cheap points being dropped. The back-up boys are not winners, and the first teamers that remain are not strong enough to carry them. Hell, in 1998, there was enough in the team to see the job through in spite of relying on Christopher Wreh to play up front. I won’t bother listing the players that were not automatic first choices in 2002 and 2004, but there was genuine quality in depth there.

Now we have Abou Diaby. Ian Tanner, who I consider very much a believer in what Arsene Wenger is trying to do, texted me during the game to state, ‘Diaby is a lazy c***’, I think just after the second goal had gone in. He also construed to lose possession on a regular basis. Others who should never get anywhere near the first team are Denilson, Rosicky and Eboue. That Arsenal need to call on such players when the going gets tough is the reason they have won nothing since 2005. I am prepared to accept that fatigue from the amount of chasing done at the Nou Camp may provide a mitigating factor for some of the poor passing at Old Trafford, but what I cannot work out is this. Jack Wilshere ran his socks off in Spain and did the same against Manchester United. If he is capable of doing that, they why aren’t the likes of Diaby, Denilson and Arshavin? Wilshere gets fed up of the tip tap football he is coached to play and actually has the revolutionary idea of trying to take players on and beat them. Additionally, even if Van Persie was wearing the armband, the leader on the field – even when Fabregas is present – is Jack Wilshere. Yes, a 19-year-old kid. What has the world come to when Arsenal Football Club’s chosen eleven are being shown what commitment, drive, passion and determination mean by a teenager. It truly is a sad state of affairs.

I cannot blame the manager for picking the best available side. If he had played the stiffs, we all know the kind of performance we would have witnessed. He did the right thing there. However, to claim misfortune in regard of Djourou’s injury when he had the opportunity to address the likelihood he would lose the number 20 at some point in the January window smacks to me of poor decision-making. The manager is paid £120,000 a week to make decisions that seem blindingly obvious to even the most casual Gooner. I can live with an FA Cup exit away to United if I knew there was quality to replace an injured centre-back. There isn’t.

The combination of the injuries to Szczesny and Djourou will account for Arsenal this season. Yes, I know the Spanish waiter has had two decent games, but we all know what lies around the corner. Add to that the manager’s refusal to play his best option (Nasri) in Fabregas’ position when the captain is unavailable. I know that on paper we have everything to play for, but the contrast between Wilshere’s attitude and that of so many of his team-mates is marked and worrying. There were AKBs who genuinely believed Arsenal could win the quadruple after the win over Barcelona. They will be writing in the comments section below to state that we can still win the league and that I should stop moaning. But how many times can what will happen this season be allowed to be repeated? It’s like Groundhog Day. The answer is a good few seasons yet unless people stop renewing their season tickets and the club fails to replace them. That is some way off happening yet. Wenger will never be dispensed with by the current board because he has made them rich and is making them richer. The fans pay a lot of money and on occasion are served up dross. But as long as they show the willingness to continue to pay for it, they will continue to witness it.

Abou Diaby is dross. Maybe his injury in 2006 is the reason things never worked out, but as a football player, he belongs somewhere else. He is the polar opposite of Jack Wilshere and if the manager had any balls he would drop him forthwith and sell him to whichever mug will take him in the summer. But you know what, like a stain you can’t get rid of, he’ll be lining up in the squad photo in August. And that is why, under Arsene Wenger, we will never win either the Champions League or another title. There are simply no longer enough winners amongst the playing staff and the manager refuses to replace those lacking the desire to go the extra mile. Look how hard Wayne Rooney worked in this game and compare with Andrey Arshavin. There are too many coasting at the club.

The plain fact is that – even with this group of players – a different manager could get more out of them. Wenger has done wonderful things for the club, and financially, continues to do so. Economically, they could not be making much more, it is only by replacing the long term sponsorship deals that they are tied to where growth is possible. However, on the honours count – which is what matters more to supporters – his time is gone. It is like Chinese water torture watching hope turn into despair. And the worst thing is that I realized this evening that I really don’t care very much about a lot of these players. There are exceptions, but overall there is a malaise. A lacklustre feeling. The club are trying to do something with the motto from the old days “Forward Arsenal” in their marketing. On the field, it’s “Sideways Arsenal”. Hell, we can’t even win the Tinpot Cup.

Look at William Gallas at Spurs. He cares again. Towards the end at Arsenal, he was surrounded by too many slackers who he felt did not seem to care enough about winning things. So he became frustrated with them and hence unpopular. If that is what happens when you have a winner in the camp, it’s a terrible indictment of the culture the manager has created. It’s horrible to admit it, but mentally, Spurs are better equipped to win things than Arsenal under their respective managers. But I fully expect to hear Wenger state that his players have the mental strength to go from here and win the title. But they don’t and they won’t. Deep down we all know that the last fortnight has destroyed the players’ confidence. The run-in suggests the Premier League is there for the taking, but the team made hard enough work of Sunderland at home.

I’ll end with a text from Pete Mountford – ‘In a parallel world, the board would move heaven and earth to get Mourinho this summer. Not our lot. How much more of this Groundhog Day can we take?' Pete, how long have you got mate?


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  1. HowardL

    Mar 19, 2011, 0:26 #3809

    Oh Arsene, where did it all go wrong?

  2. Matt

    Mar 16, 2011, 17:28 #3652

    Amazing coloumn. Never heard so much truth in one webpage. Bored of all the excuses now. I've paid hand over fist to watch these hasbeens play to see a 19 year old kid with the biggest heart and best head out of the lot. Cesc so obviously doesnt want to be at Arsenal anymore, and if a good offer was to come in the summer, I would take it and start again with that cash. Eboue, Squillaci, Denilson, Eboue, Almunia. You look at teams like Blackpool and Wigan who have better players in their teams. Damn shame.

  3. Beero

    Mar 16, 2011, 14:21 #3644

    Diaby can not play any worse than he is but he still makes it straight into the starting line up, what message does this send out to the others?

  4. Simon

    Mar 15, 2011, 15:44 #3567

    Well said Kev. Took me 72 hours to summons the strength to take a peak at your editorial and it nails it. Its the feeling someone else could get more from the team that really hurts, that and the constant chances given to the same failures over and over again and the recurrence of the same errors over and over again. The sad truth is the board are in awe of Arsene and are unable or unwilling to go against his thinking. I reckon that even if Arsene offered to go in May they'd persuade him to stay and its only the man himself who'll bring his time at the club to an end. Club level renewal papers came today ..what timing.

  5. Rob The Goon

    Mar 15, 2011, 13:31 #3552

    Did anyone notice that Antonio Valencia is playing again after nearly 6 months out due to that horrific leg break but yet it takes our players nearly around 18 months to come back? It seems that our bad injury history coincides with Gary Lewin leaving for England

  6. Charlie

    Mar 15, 2011, 12:45 #3545

    With his tip tap football Arsene has systematically hindered the natural ability of many key players in the squad. Just think of the direct running, taking on opponents and the bullets scored from 25 plus yards by players such as Rosicky and Arshavin just after they joined us. This seems to have now been coached out and everyone seems frightened to have a pop. For F@%* sake lads have a go!

  7. Pires' Goatee

    Mar 15, 2011, 10:11 #3521

    "To claim misfortune in regard of Djourou’s injury when he had the opportunity to address the likelihood he would lose the number 20 at some point in the January window smacks to me of poor decision-making. The manager is paid £120,000 a week to make decisions that seem blindingly obvious to even the most casual Gooner. I can live with an FA Cup exit away to United if I knew there was quality to replace an injured centre-back. There isn’t." Who do you think we could get in in January? With £35million spent on Carrol, you're only likely to get in someone of Squillaci's pedigree - not someone who can come in and replce JD like for like. Money's one thing - it's finding the quality and too many people see money as the answer to any problem on the pitch. Shit goalkeeper? Spend money. Shit centre-back? Spend money. Investment in the playing squad is a good thing - but spending money on over-priced players is simply irresponsible. 'Coulda signed Cahill in January' I hear you say. But pay an extra £15million simply because he's English? I'd rather do a Wenger and have faith in the squad though. Totally agree with comments about Diaby though. He's simply not good enough for the Arsenal and should be sold for a big fat Wenger-inflated sum in the Summer. Have faith. 10 games to go and Mad Jens has returned...

  8. Eldridge

    Mar 14, 2011, 14:36 #3496

    That Wenger continues to insist that this is his best ever squad insults countless ex-players and even more loyal supporters.

  9. George

    Mar 14, 2011, 12:17 #3488

    Replacing Wenger is virtually impossible without throwing the club into turmoil. The Club is built on Wengers philosophy and to keep us in contention with a massive stadium bill on our heads is a massive achievement. The only man who could replace Wenger is Guardiola and isn't about to leave thebest side in the world to embrace us Gooners anytime soon. plus, Wenger won't get the sack as he's keeping the boards pockets bulging and it ain't exactly Wenger who's putting the prices up. if you wanna sack anyone, we should campaign to sack the board and bring back people like David Dein who love the club and want success. The Board probably didn't cough up for a january budget with forecast predictions of a slight loss in profits. Wenger ain't to blame not too long ago we would see 4 or 5 players come in, now the financial support has dried up thanks to fat cats who care about their pockets more than trophies. other clubs measure their managers and teams on success and adjust their financial support in the transer window accordingly, we only have to look up the road to see the support pledged to Redknapp and what that has done to the ever-growing Spurs (who may well surpass us gooners next season if things carry on), whereas our board see the club as a business and judge the team on profits. they don't care about us, the team or Wenger and THEY SHOULD GO!!!! SACK THE BOARD!!!! not Wenger. one thing i will say is champions or not this season you can be sure thgat after the disappointments of this term Chelski, Sheik City, the Manks, the scosers and the yids will spend big over the summer to boost their squads whilst Arsenal will spend little to keep thge money pouring in and next season it won't be the title race but fourth place we'll be worrying about. sacking the board and revolutionising opinion upstairs is the only way to change this club and bring us the success we crave.

  10. Tiger Keown

    Mar 14, 2011, 10:50 #3479

    John – why don't YOU go and support another club and take all your gullible, naive, toothless, bunch of no-ambition fools with you. Even rats realise that if a certain proceeder leads to pain they eventually use another more successful route. Do you still believe the Earth is flat as well?

  11. John

    Mar 14, 2011, 0:09 #3458

    these comments are shameful. we are doing fine. stop throwing your toys out of the pram. we are a whisker away. think about where we were when wenger joined, and where we are now. for the love of GOD, if trophies are all you bloody care about, go support manure, you are not wanted at arsenal.

  12. Viking

    Mar 13, 2011, 22:37 #3455

    I'm stunned. I agree with your analysis. AT. I think it's a sad idictment on the team when we have a season debutant leading the way, i.e. Jack Wilshire, For me he is an example to every one of his team mates, if it wasn't for him, we'd be in a lot of trouble. He gives 101% in every game, and his energy, passion, commitment, will to win and desire must be commended. Sure he may have had a couple of bad games, but if his team mates looked at him and gave half of the same effort, then maybe we'd be in a better position today! Not that 2nd in league is bad of course. But as you've mentioned, this year, the League will be lost by somebody rather than won! I'm shocked that Denillson continues to be picked, he is crap, bring back Lansbury, he can't be any worse. Diaby has to go, and so does Rosicky, Eboue, Squillachi, Chamakh, Bendtner, Fabianski and Shava ( who I despise ). Shava sums Arsenal up, lazy, no effort, no commitment and can only be bothered when the going is good. When the going gets tough he goes missing, as do a few of our players. They won't roll their sleves up and fight, and thats where the British mentality, this fabricated mental toughness AW refers to is missing. Glad Ramsey is back, he will be a much welcomed addition to the team. And for you Shava lovers out there, if he was so good, why has he been dropped to the bench on so many occasions this season, and why did he not play against Barca? Instead he chose Rosicky agead of him, that says it all! Shava is a waste of space, meant to be a big money signing, but can't even beat his opposing full back. These guys who are paid handsomely will never leave Arsenal, they're on good wages, they don't get lambasted when they mistakes. Who's gonna tell them off, not Arsene, not nice guy Cesc, oh yes, I know, it's our very own Mr nasty = Gael Clichy ( just picked that name at random, they're all the same ), he'll give you that rocket when things aint going well! We're missing winners, hard men, people who will rattle cages and make things happen, take games by the scruff of the neck and lead by example. I love Cesc, class player, he will leave this summer, and I for one, cannot blame him. One crucial point also, before the match, all our players decided to be friendly with the Barca team, hugging them, warmly shaking their hands. The one and only player who gave them zero respect, and gave them the look af hatred was our very own Jack Wilshire - I for one rate him highly and he will be a legend at the club. All this from a 19 year old. Nice one Jack, keep it up son. Class.....

  13. GaryFootscrayAustralia

    Mar 13, 2011, 18:17 #3447

    Gunner_Sameer, you make some well thought out points in your reply, but there's one area where we might disagree. You say "it is also the wages which play a huge part in deciding whether we get a proven winner or a novice who may become a polished diamond". I agree with that, but why then pay such fat salaries / bonuses and extended contracts to our "squad" (i.e. not good enough) players?

  14. Claire Keenan

    Mar 13, 2011, 18:13 #3446

    Couldn't agree more. I keep trying to write a response but you've said it all. What a mug I have been - annual season ticket, trips to Wigan, Newcastle, Wembley and Old Trafford. All that money spent expecting to see us trying to win something this season. Instead the board at AFC are intent just on reaching 4th every year, couldn't give a monkey's about trophies.

  15. GaryFootscrayAustralia

    Mar 13, 2011, 17:44 #3445

    Kevin, I agree with nearly all of your post, we slightly differ on whether it should be 19 year old Jack Wilshere leading the team. I say he should be given the responsibility, he's already proved he can handle it. I remember a 19 year old who captained Arsenal at that age, and led the team through two periods of sustained success, winning plenty of pots. TA proved he was more than capable despite his age...so once again, I'll repeat myself and say give the Jack the captaincy as soon as Cesc has bought his plane ticket - and can somebody please tell AW to have a serious look at Vertonghen from Ajax, a flexible and qualified solution to the eternal Centre Half / Defensive Mid cover saga...

  16. Website Editor

    Mar 13, 2011, 15:51 #3441

    Mark M asks, 'What can we ACTIVELY do (rather than passively staying away from games), as individuals, to help the board realise how terribly disillusioned we are?' I think the first thing I would say is that - as the team are still in with a chance of winning the title, the supporters have to at least allow them to fail on this front before calling for change. Granted, many believe they will fall short, myself included, but I would wait until they do. We all want to be proved wrong in the idea that the players cannot deliver a trophy under AW. When it is certain that once again we will end up trophyless, it's basically organising something on a matchday that will get media attention, the more fans involved the better and tip off the media in advance. Remember the "I Love AW" t-shirts handed out before the Stoke game in May 2009 when Wenger pondered leaving. That gesture probably didn't do much for the club's short term future, but it made headlines. Wanting him to go is a much bigger story. There are a number of things that could be done, just use your imagination and start planning if you want to do something. However, it must be remembered that there are many supporters that are content with what the team achieve under AW who fear another manager coming in. Afraid of the unknown and all that. Arsenal should be bigger than one man, but many like the comfort of familiarity. Sadly, the squad does not possess enough players with a winning mentality. Can anyone see that changing?

  17. Mark M

    Mar 13, 2011, 14:00 #3434

    Kevin, AWESOME article. You've summed up the situation infinitely better than I could ever do. I was at the game myself, I've had a season ticket since I was a teenager, and I think that yesterday represents the end of the line for me. I won't be attending again while Wenger is the manager. The question that I am stuck on is: what can we ACTIVELY do (rather than passively staying away from games), as individuals, to help the board realise how terribly disillusioned we are? Mark

  18. AugustusCaesar

    Mar 13, 2011, 13:37 #3430

    Staggered by the comments about William Gallas. The guy is a big baby who was either injured, inconsistent or busy driving a wedge between himself and other players whilst wearing the red of Arsenal. If he was such a fighter and a great leader why didn't he lead us to a trophy? I'm fairly sure there wasn't a single fan gutted by his departure at the start of the season. He was never the answer at centre back.

  19. Gunner_Sameer

    Mar 13, 2011, 13:15 #3426

    A depressing article which I feel is a natural reaction from a fan who has passion for his club. Personally, I was not very confident that we will get past Man U without Fabregas and Walcott (how we wish Walcott was back now...constantly slagged by supporters but someone who I feel is essential to our winning games) Personally, I feel the margin between victory and defeat is very small and this Arsenal team is suffering from that mental barrier. Just look at the England cricket team, until they overcame the Ashes barrier they could not do anything right even though they were losing by small margins. The difference between winners and runners up is very small and I hope we Gunners can keep that in perspective. I feel AW has to take responsibility for some of the decisions in terms of squad strength. At the same time, I feel that we may not really know the true picture of the finances at AFC. I know everybody keeps saying that there is money to spend but it is not just the initial money to buy the player, it is also the wages which play a huge part in deciding whether we get a proven winner or a novice who may become a polished diamond. Most of the time we end up getting young or unproven players because their wage demands are something AFC can manage. Like all supporters, I want us to win titles but, I remember few years ago, Arsene mentioned that the supporters will have to accept reality that AFC will be a Selling club and not a BUYING club when it comes to players because they just don't have the money to spend big. I am sure Arsene doesn't just feel content with losing all the time or not winning any trophy all these years. I feel he has tried to do the best with all the resources at his disposal. Instead of whinging about no money to buy players, he constantly deflects pressure so he can push his mediocre squad to great heights. There, I said it. Actually, it is time to accept that we have a mediocre squad with very few match winners. I can safely say that if we did not have Arsene then we would be mid table or bottom half material with the same set of players. Arsene is constantly overachieving with these players. And because we have a mediocre squad, we do great things once in a while but not often enough. I think most of us get fed up that the club is making money at the cost of winning trophies. I think, we fans need to decide what kind of club we prefer. A club which spends lots of money to buy proven winners and then hopes for the best in terms of trophies and finances or a club which accepts the limits of their resources and pushes its B grade squad to excel. I think us fans can also play a part by being vociferous in our support. I think Highbury was lot more intimate and the players could feel the crowd buzz. Now maybe we have too many middle class supporters who support the beautiful game of Wenger's boys but doesn't show it often enough. Maybe we supporters can learn a few things from Newcastle and Birmingham fans too.

  20. The Gun

    Mar 13, 2011, 12:58 #3425

    Brilliant article Kevin! I couldn't agree more. We have some lousy players, but Ferguson managed to coach a performance out from his "C" team while our "B" struggled. The game looked easy for United, I don't think they never doubted that they would lose to Arsenal. Sadly, the case based on evidence shows that AW is unable to get the best out of his players - his approach with his "kids" is too emotional and he allows them to get away with too much. 6 seasons without trophy is not good enough - but sadly for us Arsenal fans the trophy drought will go on. We will NOT win a trophy under Arsene Wenger and sadly he is contracted until June 2014. That is three more seasons of "nontuples".

  21. Guv

    Mar 13, 2011, 12:51 #3423

    Bang on as ever Kev, there is a deep, deep malaise at our club and nothing will change until a gutless board decide otherwise. Just imagine a scenario where anyone, board member, coaching staff dares to criticise this Wenger project (I would call it his personal plaything) - it would be toys out of the pram time from Wenger. A stubborn man without an ounce of ruthlessness in him. The next 10 games should define his future - but of course they will not and the summer will bring nothing except the standard Wenger line rolled out - " my team is ready to deliver.." - The reality is Wenger stopped "knowing" years ago now and it hurts to have to admit the club will not win another trophy under his sterwardship.. The Business Model looks good though..

  22. tom s

    Mar 13, 2011, 12:30 #3421

    Before the start of yesterday's game i though we've got a great chance os smashing them, both teams had five first team players injured and our team definately lookd stronger and like it had more quality... how wrong was i, let's face it man utd have got one of the worst squads they've had in the past 15 years, but unlike us they know how to win and they possess a manager who know a thing or two about tactics. would love to see clichy left back and gibbs in teh attacking left role vice versa especially when theo walcott is out, really think we'd benefit from their pace and directness,also when the whole tram is fit nasri should definately start on the right but when cescy is injured a per he should definately start in the middle. can't wenger see this. the games which i think will define our season are when we play tottenham and man utd if we lose both of them there is only one way this team is going and that down to mediocrity. let's hope wenger learns a thing or two about tactics if not pep guardiola is teh only manager that can take this great club forward and improve our passing game but also improve with our tactics and mental strength and of course pressurising the opponent.

  23. theresonlyoneaaronramsey

    Mar 13, 2011, 12:17 #3418

    goonerpete- you must be my alter ego. i am saying exactly the same as you. wenger inherited a defence and a genius ( denis). thats why we could win things then, but no more. now its all his tippytappy adherents who have forgotten that the point of the game is NOT to see how long they can keep the ball, but actually to score a goal or two.

  24. Highbury Spy

    Mar 13, 2011, 12:15 #3417

    So the board are using the name of my column to market the club eh? I wish they would take note of what I write in it as well. If they did, then Wenger would've gone out the door three seasons ago and we would all be spared having to put up with his obstinacy and stubborn behaviour every season. Why Nasri isn't in central midfield when Fabregas is absent is anyone's guess and as for Denilson, well I've been saying for years (and years) that we have ten men when he starts. Wasn't the Stoke FA Cup game last season evidence alone that Denilson is rubbish and here we are a year later and he's still here infesting the midfield. And why oh why do we have to start with one striker every week? No wonder we can't score goals in the big matches. The rot started when Wenger moved to 4-5-1 (not 4-3-3 as everyone seems to think). When we won trophies it was 4-4-2 every week. Doh! Words fail me. Do us all a favour Arsene. Fall on you sword this summer so that the club can move on and the fans can get their sanity back. I long for the day I hear the words "Arsene Wenger has left Arsenal". I just hope I live long enough. I am 56.

  25. Neil Tookey

    Mar 13, 2011, 11:58 #3415

    I've said it before and I'll say it again – the AKB are killing this football club. With no pressure on board or management these mugs are allowing them to fill the changing room baths with Champagne and laugh as us sheep as we pin our hopes on silverware every August. What the AKB don't seem to grasp is that even if we win the league this year it still does not make up for the past five years of pain when with a little more investment we could won stuff. We've been cheated, and will continue to be cheated as long as the fans do not put pressure the board.

  26. Simon

    Mar 13, 2011, 11:41 #3410

    As always, I agree with every word. Anyone who still believes in AW needs their head tested.

  27. Mar 13, 2011, 11:40 #3409

    fantastic article kevin,i could feel your frustration leaping off the screen as i read it. i have said this before but its worth repeating,it wont matter to the board if we NEVER win any trophy as long as arsenal finish in the top 4,therefore guaranteeing champions league riches wenger is secure in his job. that is the benchmark set for the manager at the beginning of each season and arsenal fans had better realise it. yesterdays match was yet more proof of how many of our players go missing in big matches particularly away from home and how the manager is totally clueless when it comes to setting up a team to win or even pinch a draw in one of these games. we do the exact same thing against the bigger teams i.e all pile forward then leave our defence exposed to the counter attack. i simply cannot see us winning anything under this manager again and if i hear him say the words "mental strength" again im gonna put my foot through the tv screen.

  28. bergkamp10

    Mar 13, 2011, 11:23 #3407

    Wenger and the board have taken away the club ive loved all my life. They repeat their lies season after season while expecting the fans to carry on paying top whack for the privelage of being ripped off. I for one am sick of it and its not gonna change any time soon. I used to hate united with a passion but now i can only look at them and admire that whatever side they put out they fight tooth and nail to the end. I admire this because it reminds me so much of the Arsenal I used to know. Oh to have the likes of Adams, Keown, Winterburn, Rocky, Vieira - true warriors who had to be virtually scrapped of the pitch in defeat. But no we are left with virtually a whole squad of slackers who dont give a shit (jack wilshere aside) and have no clue and no pride in representing our great club. Please can we have our Arsenal back, is that asking too much?

  29. Nos89

    Mar 13, 2011, 11:18 #3405

    Kev, as you rigtly point out this is the 3rd season in 4 that we have a good shout at the title and that we will probably blow it again. You haven't mentioned Ramsey returning to the side yesterday, With Song moving to Cb, Ramsey alongside Jack will give this team some energy back in the midfield. For me Chamakh needs to be starting, after a great start he was obviously rocked by being dropped as soon as RvP returned. Again the managers fault, all this belief in the his best squad ever is a sham, as Wenger's actions speak louder than his words.

  30. SilverGooner

    Mar 13, 2011, 11:03 #3404

    Depressing reading for a Sunday morning but fair play to the Ed for for writing it. Regarding yesterdays game, Fergie usually manages to tactically outwit Wenger and yesterday was no different. But lets be honest, we were doomed to fail even before we kicked off. If only someone on the coaching staff was able to question Wengers team selection and tactics then 1) surely Denislon AND Diaby would not both have started and 2) Nasri would have played the Cesc role. Yesterday also proved that United have players that can come in and do a job when key players are out. We don't. Dennislon, Diaby, Bendtner, Rosicky and Eboue....sorry, but they are just not good enough. Someone at the club should also have a word in Wenger's ear and tell him to refrain from using the term 'mental strength'. It is blindingly obvious that the team do not possess it! The only time I want to hear Wenger use term again is on the last day of the season if (and it's a huge if) we have managed to win the league. Because that (and some tactical nous) is what it is going to take. Like most Gooners though, I have become accustomed to us falling short. How I would love to be proved wrong.

  31. The Happening

    Mar 13, 2011, 10:36 #3401

    Thanks Kevin, great article, let's just hope we get into the Champions League! I feel sick when I see Wenger on TV, the pressure he's put on our team this year for gambling on fitness etc, all he had to do was buy 1 or 2, I love Arsenal but I am beginning to hate this man!

  32. Paul

    Mar 13, 2011, 10:28 #3399

    100% agree with this article... Any other board of a top club in our position would not have accepted this for so long. Board should start work today on getting Mourinho or Guardiola to lead Arsenal FC. Probably the 2 best young managers in Europe & both stated they want to be in England. Reality is Wenger will be given yet another painful season to ruin his own legacy & give us Gooners another expensive, frustrating, embarrassing year... I am a Gooner for life & will never give up my silver membership (cannot afford season ticket) but will not be using it until Wenger has gone! Victoria Concordia Crescit

  33. Ando

    Mar 13, 2011, 9:47 #3391

    Just brace yourself for the season ticket price increase, you will get plenty more of the same for the rest of this season (bullshit from aw,tip tap up as far as the opponents box) etc etc

  34. simon mcmahon

    Mar 13, 2011, 9:46 #3389

    wenger has taken the invincibles and made us the laughables! his arrogance and a job with no demands from the board on winning trophies,which coach in world football in janaury would not have addressed our defensive frailties, three fit centre halfs one of which has major injury problems, and one who never be good enough for the arsenal. He is a serial looser george wouldnt have got this much time.

  35. otty

    Mar 13, 2011, 9:44 #3388

    Spot on. you said it had it is, sad to say.

  36. Nick C

    Mar 13, 2011, 9:25 #3384

    Absolutely spot on article. Every word should be sent to Wenger, the players and the Board. Enough is enough. If you love Arsenal in any way shape or form you will realize we are being taken as fools. how many more incompetent decisions can we take?!? - no back up centre half, no quality beyond first 11, hiding behind injuries (all teams get them), diary/denilson/rosicky/bendnter (how much longer), not spending our money when it is needed on the pitch, embarrassing excuses treating us like idiots etc. I could go on but it's all so obvious. Losing happens but when it's avoidable and due to lack of effort it's not acceptable. Season ticket next season for 1250?! We shall see, rather spend time with my family and the golf course. They are taking our club away. Shame on Wenger, the players and all involved.

  37. Rob The Goon

    Mar 13, 2011, 9:14 #3380

    ...And a note to all the fans who are worried about who will take over from wenger: Arsenal Football Club was here a very long time before arsene wenger came here and Arsenal Football Club will be here after arsene wenger. If certain players wanted to leave because arsene left, so be it. They was'nt fit to wear the shirt in the first place!

  38. Tom

    Mar 13, 2011, 9:08 #3378

    Arsenal football club is not about winning trophies its about making money, its about finishing in the top 4 thats all.The only time we have spent big money was when we bought Arshavin when it looked like we would finish out of the top 4.As long as the ground is full do you think Wenger and the board will change?.I gave up my ST two years ago and now go to the pub and watch our games in the pub.I'm not going to carry on lining the pockets of Wenger the board and our average players.If only more fans did that when the ST renewal forms come through the post in May.

  39. Brian

    Mar 13, 2011, 8:50 #3375

    Wenger does what the board wants, he makes money.Trophies do not matter to our board.Its all about profits.So they give him £6m a year to get us in the top 4.He is under no pressure at all.He wins fuck all yet he knows he is in the job every year.So he can carry on with his failed project.The only way us the fans can get Wenger and the board out is to boycott games that is the only language the board and Wenger will understand.The people who dont matter at the club are the fans who are ripped off season in season out.Question to all the AKB's:What other top European club would put up with amanager who hadnt won a trophy for 6 years??

  40. Lucy Van Pelt

    Mar 13, 2011, 8:33 #3370

    Spot on again, Kevin. Two years supporter ago I told a LFC supporting friend that Wenger and Benitez were two sides of the same coin: both banking on the goodwill generated by one moment in history (Invincibles/Champions League final), both over reliant on two star players (Gerrard-Torres/Fabregas-RVP), both arrogant, blinkered and more obsessed with proving their critics wrong than acting in their clubs' interest. Looking ahead, by the time Wenger's current contract expires we too will be plying our trade in upper mid table and the Europa League. We all know that he won't buy anything of worth in the transfer window, that he will continue to coach the same pass-it-to-death-with-no-plan-B football, and no defense. We all know that our sick room will contain the best part of the first eleven for most of any season because our medical team are also, frankly, suspect. This is the club where nobody practices set pieces but the manager pays a psychometric expert to hear that his lumpen second striker's confidence far exceeds his actual abilities. Says it all, really.

  41. Simon F

    Mar 13, 2011, 8:30 #3367

    I agree with most of the article with regard to players. Diaby, Denilson, Arshavin, Rosicky and Eboue are nothing more than average. I can cope with that but i cannot accept complacency by these players. Take Ray Parlour - Not a world beater but attitude, determination and will to win made him head and shoulders above this group!!! AW is a fantastic technical coach, however it seems coaching mental toughness and being blunt sometimes doesnt seem to be in his make up. He has a real belief that quality will show through and therefore just keep doing the same thing. An 80's song said 'when the going gets tough the tough get going' - thats the bit we are missing. Somebody on the coaching staff needs to point this out to AW and the players. Finally - make Jack captain immediately - he is everything that we expect from an Arsenal player!

  42. Rob The Goon

    Mar 13, 2011, 7:53 #3364

    While reading this I found myself nodding in agreement to everything you have written. Excellent post! Even if we do win the league how many fans will be fully satisfied? When will the AKB's realise that there is a similar pattern each season, especially when we get to February/march our season starts crumbling and around April (season ticket renewal time) wenger will start saying how he can compete with the other clubs financially... same ol arsenal, not competing!

  43. Joe Fitzpatrick

    Mar 13, 2011, 7:30 #3363

    Landmark article on this forum. You didn't leave much for the rest of us to say now did you? You said it all. "Kev knows"

  44. ebrahim

    Mar 13, 2011, 7:28 #3362

    Couldn't have said it any better. DEPRESSING that I was emotionless during the game. Guess many were too. Are you listening Gazidis?

  45. GoonerRon

    Mar 13, 2011, 0:59 #3358

    Oh please let's not fetishise what the Spuds have. Where was their will to win when Blackpool beat them or Wolves came back to draw three times, or Fulham battered them in the FA Cup or when we dicked on them at their place in the Carling Cup? In the cold light of day they are highly likely to end up with nothing this season and outside of the top 4 for next season, all with a net spend of £125m more than us in the last five years (not including the tens of millions spent sacking managers, poaching managers then sacking managers). Whilst they have fumbled around in the dark hoping their next move is the right one, we have done it the right way by spending what we have (perhaps not enough sometimes, granted) and not making knee jerk reactions to perceived underachievement. Whilst we've still got a good chance to win something this year I will reserve jusdgement and just get behind the team.

  46. alan B'Stard M P

    Mar 13, 2011, 0:39 #3357

    quote Dan "board have lied to us all and used Wenger as a scapegoat in which case they must move on. " Bingo! Someone finally gets it. The board own Arsenal. Notice i call it Arsenal and not a club? The board at law must gain as much revenue for the shareholders who are the owners. The corporations and companies laws demand this. So sell Highbury, develop and sell apartments & buy young players cheaply and sell high. Wenger has a master's degree in economics. Why do you think he's there? He controls everything. He's more than a poxy football coach The Arsenal must return to being a publicly owned club where the board are volunteers elected, and the money goes into the club for member's benefit and to pay staff and not into private pockets of private board member/owner'spockets Then we can return to being a club and buy players

  47. Nick

    Mar 13, 2011, 0:18 #3356

    To rub salt into the wound some of Wenger's post match comments are either delusional or downright dishonest. Mr Wenger, don't p*ss down my back and tell me it's raining.

  48. Jim

    Mar 13, 2011, 0:17 #3355

    "The Arsenal Supporters Trust". Who are these people? When was the last time they made any comments about the state of the Arsenal FC. Of course, they're only concerned of their own shareholdings in Arsenal Plc. They should call themselves "The Arsenal Board Supporters Trust" instead.

  49. Charlie

    Mar 12, 2011, 23:57 #3354

    Blah blah blah! So Wenger goes - who do all these 'fans' replace him with? Great choice out there! For Christ sake stop whinging and get behind this team! We score in the last minute at barca- we're a great team with great resilence! Score 2 of 18 shots against MU - we're a great team in the best position to win the league! Give it a rest and start backing this team off go off down the road to watch a team you can really slag off!

  50. 6ooner Pete

    Mar 12, 2011, 23:47 #3353

    As soon as I saw the team list I texted my friend and said "That's us out then!" How can Arsene keep picking Denilson and Diaby in front of Ramsey? And why does he play Nasri on the wing instead of in the Fabregas role? When Denilson lost the ball and didn't bother trying to track back and win the ball back it was like watching the last five seasons summed up in 15 seconds as the ball inevitably ends up in our net despite UTD not playing any better than us up until then. But what can we do? Arsene did great things for Arsenal in his first seven years BUT he is ruining my/our club now.I honestly don't know how we are ever going to get excited watching this team again.I want to be able to watch my team with some pride. I want proper football players that are proud to wear the shirt. I want to genuinely have a positive feeling before a big match that we could actually produce a good display and WIN. I want more players like Jack and Aaron who actually seem to know what they are doing. Watching Arsenal for the last six seasons is like seeing a car crash over and over and over and over and over again!!!!!! Even in the seventies and eighties when we were crap I got more pleasure watching them than some of this lot.Please Arsene, could you leave? Some of us want our club back! PS any AKB reading this,this is NOT a knee jerk reaction FFS!

  51. gooner 4

    Mar 12, 2011, 23:37 #3352

    The only way change will come to arsenal is when wenger lives. But that will not happen till we the sopporters stop going to the stadium and cutting the profits of the big men who matter. wenger became useless long long time ago but because we are blinded by all those propanda of that so called beautiful passing games that yield nothing we dont see the bigger picture of winning matches and cups.

  52. Dan

    Mar 12, 2011, 23:28 #3351

    I don't think anyone could disagree with you, even the AKB's! I think this board are very lucky that the fans didn't have a fit when the entire unbeaten squad were sold and not replaced but we went with it and supported Arsene. Well in the same respect we are more than entitled to ask questions. I think it is quite simple for us now as I don't believe we will win the league.... Either Wenger has had the money to spend in which case he must go or the board have lied to us all and used Wenger as a scapegoat in which case they must move on.

  53. ostimea

    Mar 12, 2011, 23:27 #3350

    it hurts me to read this cos it is true, i am hoping the arsenal players will prove us wrong tho, but unfortunately im not sure they will. this whole season i have said we can win the treble, the quadruple was a possibility but perhaps too much, non the less i thought we were gonna start winning stuff, i supported them when other fans put them down etc, i never once for a minute lost faith, but today has really sent me to my knees, im unsure about winning the title which would result in another trophieless season and that rly kills me to say it

  54. Z boz

    Mar 12, 2011, 23:13 #3349

    You make a great and slightly worrying point about the respective mentality of Spurs and us. The majority of these players just don't have the winning mentality of teams of the past. What do you think about the mentality of the fans at home games? Given that at home has been our weakness this season my feeling is that the players take some of their lead from the almost ambivalent crowd. Two fixtures that stick in the mind are the Chelsea and Barca home games where the crowd were more supportive, pumped up and more likely to have the players pumped up and hence the positive result. I do accept that as highly paid professionals they shouldn't need us, but then again they are only human. Slightly mentally weak humans, i'll give you that!

  55. Conor

    Mar 12, 2011, 23:11 #3348

    your right wilshere is the only player who gives 100% and its because he is english, diaby and the rest of them dont care about arsenal and the fans. Arsenal should stay with wenger but hes got to learn to spend some cash and not balance the books

  56. Angelo

    Mar 12, 2011, 23:04 #3347

    Completely agree. The only thing I hate more is the idiocy of the AKB c.nts. Now they blame the fans for not winning trophies. Idiocy. They help the downfall of our beloved club. I started hating them more than anything else. They aggressively lie and call everybody names, who disagree with them. I will stick to this club whatever happens, so cut the crap that you are the saints and patrons of the CLUB. I am not an anti-Wenger fan, but an in-betweener who can clearly see - like yourselves - what the problem is. If he's not able to renew his ways then the time is up to him. Knowing him he won't. His exit might cause some disruption, but in the end in 2-3 years he wants to retire anyway. If we go on like that everybody, who's worth will leave the club. The exodus will throw us back to minimum mid-table. We will lose money, prestige (it's pretty low already for a top club) and it will take minimum 3-5 years to become a power again. Is that what you want?

  57. P

    Mar 12, 2011, 22:54 #3344

    William Gallas was one of the few players at Arsenal with any balls, a massive big game player, we could have done with him at Wembley and in the Nou Camp.

  58. Anon

    Mar 12, 2011, 22:53 #3343

    Just calm down a bit! If United hadn't have scored 2 from 6 attempts (both lucky rebounds) and we'd have scored at least 1 from 18 attempts, you'd have been going on about how we've 'turned a corner' and that we're going to win the league! I agree that Diaby is a useless shite, but on the whole we played very well and were easily the better side. I for one am confident about Arsenal winning the title and hope when we do you'll look back on this gloomy article with shame.

  59. simon

    Mar 12, 2011, 22:48 #3342

    Great article and I agree wholeheartedly. What is so sickening is the predictability of it all. Talk about history repeating itself. And repeating itself .... and repeating itself.

  60. frontwheel

    Mar 12, 2011, 22:41 #3341

    you want redknapp,life just gets better and better coys

  61. charlie

    Mar 12, 2011, 22:33 #3340

    What a wonderful gift hindsight is. The main reason we lose games is because of the negative vibe from some supporters. I'm sick to the teeth with hearing so many experts telling us where Arse has gone wrong. Even as far back as Christmas it was believed that Vermalean would be back. Do these people think Arse weanted our boy Thomas not to recover? The truth is, like agaginst Barca, we played well but did not have the luck needed to win. Barca - an incredible decision to send off RVP, ManU - their goalkeeper MOM. Fellow gooners shut up and start getting behind this team. It's very easy to be part of the 'told you so' crowd. We are 3 points behind with a game in hand! Please don't turn up expecting us to lose - if we do YOU still wont become manager. Whoever wears the shirt must be supported by us and not expected to be barracked quietly until a mistake is made then we can really vent the usual 'I know best' attitude. Faith involves believing the unbelievable - get on with it!

  62. Bob Masters

    Mar 12, 2011, 22:25 #3339

    You've hit the nail on the head, good article. I now live in Barcelona (where I see great football week in and week out) I still keep my Silver membership paid up as I'd fly back and see Arsenal for the big games. This season I have decided not to waste my money on tickets and flights and shall continue not to go until Wenger either starts to spend money or leaves the club. I have been an avid fan since 1970, suffered through the barren Terry Neill years and am now suffering again with the current pig headed manager! If he was a manager of one of the top clubs here in Spain he would have lost his job years ago, the vociferous spanish fans would have made sure of that.

  63. HDXS - Frustrated gunner

    Mar 12, 2011, 22:20 #3337

    Wrap this in an envelope and send it to Wenger. Completely justified.

  64. Gus

    Mar 12, 2011, 22:17 #3336

    Wenger said at the seasons beginning that if this batch of players do not deliver this season he would "reconsider" the youth policy. I doubt he'll remember what he said. Hell he may even try to justify this seasons performance. No shame in losing to Barca but Birmingham and ANOTHER loss to Man U is different story. If we come 2nd this season in the league then remember the current dross will never come 1st. Besides no one has a problem with a youth policy. We just don't want sh*t signings. Many of those signings wouldn't even make the reserves of our rivals and that's very worrying.

  65. Stian from Norway

    Mar 12, 2011, 22:12 #3335

    Diaby, Squila, Denilson, Bendtner(or Chamack), Almunia, Rosicky, Arshavin all have to go it there is to be any hope for next season.

  66. Bob

    Mar 12, 2011, 22:10 #3334

    A great article, especially because you've highlighted the key point - Wenger is being judged by the board on the strength of his economic dexterity alone. And that in turn has depended on season-ticket members and Club members being prepared to pay top-dollar out of a combination of blind faith and fear of losing their place with 40,000 in the queue for a season ticket. Well, all the evidence is that the blind faith is slowly but surely evaporating. And, in the light of the current economic climate, the queue for season tickets may evaporate too. If my hunch is correct, it may yet be the saving of our club.

  67. Pat Rice

    Mar 12, 2011, 22:07 #3333

    wenger out .... i disagree with your slagging off on eboue but apart from that this article is bang on ... we do not have the resources to win the league ... this is my summer plan and i am trying to be realistic ... sell bendtner (will get £15mill) rosicky (free) denilson (£5mill) Diaby (£5mill) Fabiamski and almunia (any takers) buy mexes (from roma on a free) scott parker (£8million, perfect cover for song and may even start ahead of song) Reina (£20-25million ... need i say more?) WORLD CLASS STRIKER !! ANOTHER WORLD CLASS CENTRE BACK (IDEALLY WE SHOULD HAVE GONE FOR DAVID LUIZ)

  68. Danish Gooner

    Mar 12, 2011, 22:06 #3332

    Old establishment will never hire a tactical genius like Mourinho.....my god they would have to spend money !!!!

  69. Stevesam

    Mar 12, 2011, 22:04 #3331

    Spot on could not agree more - Guardiola summed it up when he stated that our manager is under no pressure to win league titles. Why was Ramsey on the bench yet Diaby and Denilson played ? Rosicky's miss was even worse than Benders in Barca ! When David Dein left so did the Clubs ambition.

  70. Willy young

    Mar 12, 2011, 22:02 #3330

    Great article Jack and Ramsey rule the rest are truly average and mentally frail Please Wenger go please

  71. Anthony

    Mar 12, 2011, 22:01 #3329

    well personally wenger should go now think he`s lost his touch as a coach he has his methods yes but this is a new generation of players.. Diaby needs to be soled now don't even no y his on the field. If the season ends without a trophy there's a possibility that a superstar well leave.. Think we need thierry Henry Back ASAP as sticker to surpport RVP

  72. Dom

    Mar 12, 2011, 21:59 #3328

    I watched todays match with a swimming analogy running through my mind - manchester united swim lengths, arsenal swim widths.

  73. Michael H

    Mar 12, 2011, 21:54 #3326

    Agree with every word. Especially the bit about Jack. Ran his socks off. You can see the frustration building in him and Nasri too. Will they go the same way as Gallas? If so, can we blame them?

  74. Leon

    Mar 12, 2011, 21:53 #3325

    Diaby is a waste of space but that is true of most of them. Wenger has got to go - Huddink, Pellegrini, Rijkaard or Mourinho - Anyone except Wenger.

  75. tariq

    Mar 12, 2011, 21:52 #3324

    you guys are blind if you think wenger needs to leave. he has done soo much for arsenal , i have a blues fan friend who said to me that i am not a ture arsenal fan cause if the going got tough i were in say a relagation battle i turn my back on arsenal and thats what you guys are going. I think that arsene has i job for life at arsenal for going a whole season unbeaten. Its this group of player thomas diaby and even arshavin seem to slow . if we had are starting 11 we could beat anyteam in the world . I do think we will win the league . in arsene we trust !!!

  76. Will W

    Mar 12, 2011, 21:46 #3323

    great article, couldn't agree more. if only arsene and the players could see this..

  77. daygeedr

    Mar 12, 2011, 21:44 #3322

    U're blessed for saying this. But we all know Arsenal would just mess up the league also..

  78. Ajibola

    Mar 12, 2011, 21:39 #3320

    Kevin...all I can say is God bless you for this truthful description of the state of things at Arsenal. My opinion...get rid of AW and we will start winning medals again.

  79. AFC

    Mar 12, 2011, 21:36 #3319

    Spot on. Wenger was a magician. , but 15 years is a long time in Sport. He's methods are old.

  80. Adam

    Mar 12, 2011, 21:36 #3318

    I completely agree with you......Diaby sucks and should be dropped like a hot potatoe, Arsene needs to rethink his policy and if he refuses to change he should go go go! Mourinho or even Harry Redknapp could turn this around!

  81. Christof

    Mar 12, 2011, 21:32 #3317

    Wake me up when Wenger's left.