Arsenal’s Loss of Identity

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Arsenal’s Loss of Identity

Cole: Was he right all along?


I have written a few articles for the Online Gooner over the past few months, highlighting the complete absence of any fact-based argument for keeping Arsene Wenger in his position.

Events over the summer to date have given credence to the chasm that has developed as Arsenal FC continues to see its’ grandiose stature as a big club eroded, day after painful day. The multitude of incidents that have taken place over the past month are all indicative of a club awash with mercenaries, and a group of disinterested disparate individuals, with no respect for the club, and no understanding of what it is they are supposed to represent.

Arsene Wenger’s entire youth project has collapsed spectacularly around him and with it, Arsenal’s standing, respect and most crucially identity, continue to spiral out of control. Wenger’s premise has always been based on getting a group of youngsters growing up together, who develop an affinity for the club and a telepathic understanding on the pitch. What has transpired however is a spectacular reversal, whereby not only do the players have no on-pitch cohesion whatsoever, but we now see a multitude of instances whereby Arsene Wenger’s whole ethos has been exposed as ill-conceived, naïve at best and incompetent at worst.

Various examples of the attitude and behaviour of Wenger’s alleged commendable, perspicacious volte-face policy since 2006 can be summed up through the following incidents, all occurring within the past month of so:

• Cesc Fabregas, Arsenal captain, taking off to the Catalan GP and then posting pictures on Twitter whilst his team-mates were playing a Premier League match.

• Nicklas Bendtner openly declaring that Arsenal was not a club conducive to his career progression.

• Denilson stating that he needs to join a club with a winning mentality, more tailored to his projected career aspirations. Yes, I said Denilson – the same one that would probably struggle to get a game at Barnsley (with all due respect), let alone Barca.

• Arsenal’s Player of the Season Samir Nasri openly courting the idea of playing for Manchester United, and allegedly invoking a third party intermediary to explore the offer on the table from them.

• Gael Clichy, whose numerous calamities have cost Arsenal an untold amount of points, threatening to quit the club unless given a Galactico salary.

• The players having an end-of-season bash a few days prior to the Aston Villa home debacle.

• Alex Song - a footballing non-entity, with no medals, no trophies, and no international reputation, openly showing dissent to Samuel Eto’o in the dressing room whilst on international duty with Cameroon. That’s correct, that would be the Samuel Eto’o with 2 Champions League trophies, Three La Liga titles, One Serie A title, two African Nations Cups and a plethora of individual honours. That Song had the audacity to allegedly address Eto’o in the manner that was described, is indicative of how deluded he must be as to his place in the footballing echelon.

There was a time when playing for Arsenal was a privilege to be bestowed upon a player, whilst being Captain was the ultimate accolade: leading the biggest club, in the biggest city, in the biggest league in Europe. What Arsene Wenger’s shambolic policy has now done, is to inflate the egos of so many mediocre, trophyless players to the point of brazen arrogance.

The latest we hear is that Abou Diaby is openly comfortable enough to admit to a national publication, that he wears a Spurs top in the comfort of his own home, or when not in the presence of crowded spaces where Arsenal fans may spot him. Now. Many players have played for clubs whilst supporting others e.g. Carragher is an Everton fan, Raul was an Atletico fan, Lee Dixon is a City fan, Tony Adams was a West Ham fan, as is Jack Wilshere etc.

The primary difference here is that players like Adams and Dixon (and Wilshere to an extent); understand the honour that it is to represent a club like Arsenal and irrespective of their personal allegiances, they give everything on the pitch for Arsenal and no one could ever doubt their commitment. The case of Diaby is an absolute disgrace, but not because he apparently supports Spurs….what is more telling is the sheer stupidity and carefree attitude of the player, who was more than happy enough to admit to wearing Spurs shirts. Before later intimating that he would be open to a move to Spurs in the future.

Please remember that this is the same Abou Diaby who said of the Arsenal fans that they are ‘too nice’. The same Diaby who was ridiculously sent off at Newcastle; the same Diaby who plays with a lackadaisical, comatose nonchalance that makes lying on the beach seem like six rounds with Floyd Mayweather. And remember, the same Diaby whom Wenger has remunerated handsomely since 2006, the same one who has been awarded a contract that paid him in excess of a reported £52k per week.

Perhaps Arsenal fans will now wake up a little more to the reality of what is transpiring around them, and perhaps some will stop being so tolerant of unacceptable performances from a so-called elite athlete.

Worst of all with Diaby, is that when he returns to Arsenal for pre-season training, is there a single player that will reprimand him for this? Tony Adams would have hounded Diaby on his holidays for the insulting offence he committed. Yet Cesc Fabregas likely does not care enough to bother, as his mind is in Catalunya. Just like at Blackpool, when neither the manager, nor captain, nor manager’s assistant had the testicular fortitude to give Diaby a dressing down for his stupidity at booting a ball away: it was Van Persie who had to do it.

Arsene Wenger has, unlike Ferguson, failed to imprint an Arsenal culture upon the current players. Thierry Henry often spoke about how Ray Parlour would drum into him just how important the North London derby was to the fans. How many derbies did Henry lose then?

At Man United, every new player repeats how the likes of Scholes and Giggs hammer into you from day one, what it means to represent Man United and how nothing but the best is acceptable. Wenger’s massive failing is to fail to pass down such a tradition – who is doing that at Arsenal then? Silvestre? Squillaci? Which of these players understands the meaning of a North London derby? This could possibly explain how Arsenal capitulated in not one, but two North London derbies this season…

Wenger is 100% to blame for every single aforementioned situation because make no mistake, every single situation that has transpired are a direct consequence of his idealistic and fruitless policies. It is Wenger who has decided to excessively pay the likes of Diaby and Denilson. Since around 2009, I have been consistently baffled to see the likes of Diaby and Eboue especially, perform absolutely atrociously, only to be rewarded with a place in the starting eleven the following week. The complete absence of a discipline-based meritocracy from Wenger at the club, results in a group of egotistical individuals with no fear of consequences.


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  1. Datherine

    Jun 17, 2011, 17:02 #8838

    You have shed a ray of snsuinhe into the forum. Thanks!

  2. Ronster

    Jun 15, 2011, 18:34 #8795

    Eanna(post9574) 1/Unbeaten season:The dressing room still had George Graham's ethos (remember Graham's title winning team of '91 only lost ONE game..a 1-2 reverse at Chelsea with an injury hit defence that day).Wenger was unable to get The Invincibles anywhere near winning the Champions League.Graham's squad almost won the European Cup Winners' Cup twice on the trot with a midfield full of journeymen. 2/Did Wenger find the new stadium site?..NO Did Wenger design the stadium?......No (saying he wanted airflow to aid the pitch isn't rocket science!) Did Wenger pay for the stadium..NO 3/Competing for the title until the final stages of the season means he has gone backwards since we left the magnificent Highbury Stadium.The cat is now out of the bag...yes he puts together an excellent midfield/attacking unit but he's totally clueless when it comes to bringing in quality defenders and more importantly organising and coaching a defence.The abhorrent ego and arrogance he has shown this season explains why he isn't man enough to have brought someone in post 2005 to take care of the defensive side..someone like Keown would have guaranteed several pots I have no doubt. Fergie has always made a point of praising the contribution of his number two. Wenger will never win another major trophy again.

  3. QuartzGooner

    Jun 15, 2011, 13:28 #8781

    Very good article. Plus we NEED a defensive coach.

  4. joeliolio

    Jun 15, 2011, 1:54 #8756

    great article. wenger is absolutely the man to blame and it is scary to see the state of the club. disagree with you about clichy go. i think 5 mil for clichy is fair considering we want to sell him. His value is much more than 5 million, you are right about that. Demand is very low for clichy because most teams already have good left backs and if you watch him he is not an impressive player. His experience could almost be looked at as a negative because his career has been the trophy drought. Not exactly a winning presence. He is the clear weak link in the defense. He absolutely needs to be replaced. If he is not we do not stand a chance. We buy a replacement but keep clichy and his salary for a year while he sits on the bench because no one offered his value. 5 million is good business. Ashley Young and Gary Cahill, on the other hand, have increased values for a few reasons. 1) Both are English and English players generally earn bigger transfer fees. 2) Both are vital to their teams' survival in the EPL, and thus their value is much larger because losing a key player could mean relegation and the loss of revenue that results, whereas losing Clichy poses no such threat to arsenal. 3) Both are coming off very successful seasons in which both have improved tremendously and broken into the national team, while clichy had another average season and has showed no signs of improvement in the past 3 years. 4) Bidding Wars drive up transfer fees. Wenger drove up the price of Phil Jones. Young and Cahill will be wanted by all the top clubs in the same way. Nobody else wants Clichy. If 5 mil from Liverpool is the best we can get I'd say we should take it.

  5. Taba!

    Jun 14, 2011, 21:46 #8751

    Like the Alex song vs eto o commentary.

  6. Eanna

    Jun 14, 2011, 3:51 #8718

    ‎"Arsene Wenger’s whole ethos has been exposed as ill-conceived, naïve at best and incompetent at worst." It is incompetency leading a club through an unbeaten season in the modern era, building a modern stadium and still competing for the title until the final stages of the season, year in, year out and still maintain financial sustainability? After all the man has done for the club, this is sacrilegious talk. Get a grip.

  7. Adam

    Jun 14, 2011, 0:52 #8716

    You've put out all my thoughts in an eloquent but clear way that few others could manage. Bloody good piece, shockingly insightful and depressingly truthful. I think the underlying truth you've spelled out has hurt a few sensitive Wenger-souls? GOOD! Best piece I've ever read on this site.

  8. HowardL

    Jun 13, 2011, 22:58 #8712

    Everything in the article rings so true - oddly even Cashley's remarks. We cannot risk the lack of form from the end of last season spilling over into next, otherwise it'll be mid-table obscurity - or maybe even worse?

  9. Olufemi

    Jun 13, 2011, 18:54 #8709

    Wonderful piece of writing. It's excellent, and the best part of it is how touchy the few people who have disagreed with it are. The fact that they've expended time trying tell you how awful they think it is (after reading the whole thing), means it's served its purpose. The truth sure hurts! It's accurate, it's honest and well written. What's real funny though is to hear the deluded jokers show off about how 'we beat Barcelona 2-1'! Errrr...so what? We ultimately LOST the tie! Small-time mentality, bit like Ipswich fans showing off about having won the first leg of the CC against us 1-0...even though they were knocked out in the end! The point remains that of the few braindeads that disagreed with this excellent article....not ONE has been able to provide a FACT-BASED case as to why Emmanuel is wrong. The best they can do is to wail like little brainwashed children that because you have an opinion of your own that doesn't conform to the sheep party line, that you 'are an armchair supporter'. Wow. What a weak argument, how very very desperate. Bit like Wenger. Fact is, Emmanuel's article is a damning indictment on what a hash job Wenger has done. And the fact that the minority critical of the piece have not put forward a single valid argument, only serves to highlight how conclusive this piece is. Top stuff Sire. Keep it coming. Those with intelligence and a mind of their own (which seems to be a vast majority judging by the comments) find this article depressingly accurate. The few others, living in a brainwashed cult Wenger-world, will still be lying at home, grabbing their Wenger duvets and wetting their bedsheets in 2014 long after their deity has gone. How on earth will they live on...

  10. GhGooner

    Jun 13, 2011, 18:52 #8708

    Absolutely spot on and profoundly insightful.For me,the blame for what is turning out be the rather undignified demise of Wenger and His Arse-nal stems from the manager believing that he is generally infallible when it comes to running team affairs.Barring the occasional kneeling pitchside wearing a strained countenance,I've NEVER witnessed Wenger give a player or the team as a whole a rollicking a la Fergie Style.It's the Final Countdown for Wenger Next Season I reckon.Gooners deserve MUCH BETTER!!!

  11. hef

    Jun 13, 2011, 18:51 #8707

    One question. How many times was the word "allegedly" used in this article????

  12. GasmanChris

    Jun 13, 2011, 18:07 #8706

    I have been saying this for a whole seson now. Yet another summer of discontent. Who is going, what crap we gonna buy. Arsenal is the official laughing stock team of the perm league. Top four finishes in successive seasons is not enough. Let's see who stays this summer, and let's see where we finish end of. IN ARSENE WE TRUST!!! Not anymore mate!!!

  13. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jun 13, 2011, 17:51 #8705

    The best article i have read on this site for a long long time i still believe in arsene wenger everything about players true

  14. Pål

    Jun 13, 2011, 15:30 #8703

    Very good article and 100% correct too. I think Arsenal could very well end up outside top six after next season. I think Arsenal`s American main share holder is satisfied by just earning a steady plus from Arsenal with little ambition to win anything. I wonder if Arsenal now quickly become a mid table team, and many Arsenal supporters start to "vote" with their feet by not showing up at the Emirate Stadium, will we get a new manager or even a new major share holder with a next to half full stadium?

  15. Smokey McPot

    Jun 13, 2011, 15:12 #8700

    Excellent peice and echos the feelings ive had for a few years now. It was Tony Adams who used to drum it into all new signings, remember who you play for and what you represent. these days who the players represent seems to mean diddly sqwat. The more depressing reality is, is that its unlikely to change until wenger leaves, which isnt necessarilly 2014, because i cant see silent stan giving wenger the flick anytime soon, he could even offer him another contract!!! God help us - in wenger we rust.

  16. Terry Barry - member of the human race

    Jun 13, 2011, 14:24 #8699

    How anyone can expend so much time and space to writing so much crap - is so sad. Get a life and grow up! Pathetic and insulting.How on earth you can describe yourself as an Arsenal supporter when you are ful of such negative crap is beyond words.

  17. Peter

    Jun 13, 2011, 13:18 #8693

    There's always an uneasy hint of racism just below the surface about the targets of many Arsenal bloggers' vitriol....

  18. Neil Smith

    Jun 13, 2011, 10:45 #8690

    Spot on Emmanuel, reminds me of today's english society where kids are being spoilt with everything they want, technology is rampant and choice huge ye they still moan they are bored! Whren I grew up in the 70's you had a ball, subutteo and TV for 5 hours a day and not much more I was never bored or unruly. Today's society whether it be football or family pander too much and I fear for our future's. mobiles create a selfish culture wherewe ignore the physical people we are with at that moment for someone who is electronic instead! Wenger is giving today's team too many toys and praise now and nothing to wish and strive for like Mclintock's Double team had to do

  19. ArseCrack

    Jun 13, 2011, 10:26 #8688

    100% spot-on mate

  20. True gooner

    Jun 13, 2011, 10:19 #8687

    Badly written, poorly punctuated and lacking any non-subjective substance.

  21. Paddy

    Jun 13, 2011, 8:49 #8676

    Your Diaby comments are ridiculous. Read the actual interview. He's not a Spurs supporter and does not wear their shirt - he was merely given one by his best friend, Kaboul. As for people calling for David Dein to return as he would never allow these contractual situations to arise...ahem...Ashley Cole?...Silvain Wiltord? Check. Your. Facts.

  22. Zak

    Jun 13, 2011, 8:41 #8674

    This should be sent by hand to all the members of the board. A perfect distillation of the present situation. First-class analysis.

  23. 195gunner

    Jun 13, 2011, 7:45 #8673

    this post is pathetic and probably represents the bunch of armchair fans who have never been to a game and believe every bit of tosh in the newspaper. 1. clichy has not joined liverpool or any club for the reported 5 mil. 2. honestly bendtner is not good enough to start for arsenal, and not clinical enough to be a really good impact player. i am pretty sure he would been off loaded earlier if he werent homegrown and had started whining earlier.. if we can get a descent striker he wont be missed. 3. samuel eto is no saint,, he was sent packing from barca because of his attitude problem not his on field performance. SONG has never had any disciplinary problems during his time here at arsenal, so i would give him the benefit of doubt ahead of ETO. 4. denilson.. he been spending too much time in the bendtner school of over confidence, couldn`t care less about him leaving. 5. i like most fans would like nasri here next season, but please dont make it seem its got all to do with lack of ambition. nasri wants 20000 more per week(fair enough) and all this flirting could just as well be a play to get more money, aka rooney 6. its easy to say in hindsight that getting smalling for 10 mil was a steal, but when he was signed he had less than 10 games for fulham and played another 15 games for MAIDSTONE UNITED,,most ppl thought the 5 mil arsenal were offering was excessive. 7. i ll give you this, i never thought fabregas was captain material. i think wenger made him the captain in order to keep him here at arsenal. his behaviour is not what we are used to from a captain.

  24. Noz, Rainham, Essex.

    Jun 12, 2011, 21:22 #8668

    It depresses me to say that there is not one part of this article that I disagree with. The lack of respect towards our beloved club that has been shown by the players leaves me feeling sad and angry. There is no respect for the club or the manager and no discipline, fight or pride on the pitch. The situation continues because there is no discipline given out by the manager, no fear of the consequences for poor attitude, performance and stupidity. Can you imagine a Ferguson team giving up a 4-0 lead or losing 2-0 leads to their biggest enemies twice in one season? Of course not, the players know they would never put see the 1st team again. Arsene Wenger has done wonders for our club and and he will always be an Arsenal hero to me. It is because of this I am willing to let my heart rule my head and give Arsene until christmas to show that he is willing to curb his narrow minded arrogance and cull the players that are letting him and us down. I may be letting my heart rule my head at the moment but if the situation continues I will be stood up shouting 'Wenger out' as I will not be be made a mug of without showing my displeasure and I will not feel sorry for a manager who is damaging my club and getting paid 6 million a year to do so.

  25. chrisy boy

    Jun 12, 2011, 19:52 #8666

    in todays press usminov is quoted in saying that more investment is needed in the team and that cesc and nasri should not be sold, now whether this is just usminovs way of trying to buy our trust and possibly our shares or it is coming from someone who actually cares only time will tell, what i can tell you that usminov is ready to invest where as silent stan is living up to his name, before the villa game a meeting took place between a very good friend of mine with several shares and mr usminov now what was said was a real eye operner for my freind and to me when i was told of the conversation that took place, perhaps we have been to quick to judge usminov, but i do feel there maybe a place at the club for usminov. I hope those at the gooner print this blog unlike the ones i sent in may about the injury to cesc that was just a pack of lies !

  26. Jay

    Jun 12, 2011, 18:40 #8663

    If Song is a nobody who has no right to critisise someone who's achieved more than him, who the **** are you to critisise him? Understandable rant, but you'd expect less bull**** and more thought provoking points from a blogger rather than the usual opinion you hear from every other angry fan.

  27. eniola ositelu

    Jun 12, 2011, 17:34 #8660

    What you did prof emmanuel was to read my mind and pour it out on paper. You should join the x-men. As for me, I've supported arsenal (not wenger) for the last 2 decades but I'm opting out, not until they get rid of wenger! He has lost the plot#FIN

  28. aldo

    Jun 12, 2011, 17:18 #8659

    deus mwale its hardly racist to call them french africans isnt that what they are,great article though worrying for the future. strange feeling being an arsenal fan right now

  29. Neil

    Jun 12, 2011, 16:53 #8658

    fair play this totally sums it all up ,arsenal have lost their way , arsene does need to be shown the door as well as all the joke players not fit to grace the red and white shirt, but football has lost it soul, players at most top clubs need a reality check.

  30. Ron

    Jun 12, 2011, 16:53 #8657

    Nice article but Nasri really is nothing special.Rarely shows up in bug games v top opponents. Clichy? His good games since Feb 2008 could be counted on one hand.

  31. BigBoy

    Jun 12, 2011, 16:14 #8654

    We beat barcelona 2-1 at home, we some great football FACT Only lost the tie 4-3 on Agg after having VP Sent off FACT Challenging for all 4 Trophies at one point, with afew more experienced decent players, and a decent assistant to help Wenger guide the rest through at important times it may have been different this season. Lost Leauge Cup to Flukey Last Minute Goal. Get off Wenger back,and start supporting our best ever manager, do you muppets not remeber what it was like years ago with small crowds and **** football, anyone remember Players like lee Chapman and Gus Ceaser. If you don't like whats happening then make a stand and give up your season ticket, show some balls or shut up, it aint that bad.

  32. Jamie Hunter

    Jun 12, 2011, 14:47 #8651

    Great article. Depressing, but great.

  33. Kanmi

    Jun 12, 2011, 13:48 #8649

    As far as the Arsenal management is concerned, money comes first before the fans or even the players. When was the last time we had a testimonial match for a player that has served us with full dedication. Rather, once Wenger realizes you're nearing 30, no matter what you have achieved for the club, he wants to make money out of you at the nearest opportunity. Hleb, Thierry, Viera, Gallas, Toure are some examples. The saddest case is that of Eduardo that broke his leg while playing for us. What is the reward for dedication and long term and quality service to the club? No wonder the team keeps flopping because of lack of tradition, experience and dedication. Wenger should take a cue from Man United that finds a way to make room for the experienced players. Look at the number of over 30s in their team and how many times their experience have come in handy in helping the team. We should stop making players feel they do not have a long term future with us. That will encourage top players to come and join the club.

  34. Olutunde

    Jun 12, 2011, 12:50 #8647

    Well-written, accurate, factual and excellent. Respect Mr Fyle! To the few remaining comedians trying to rebel against the article: the author Clearly asks for anyone disagreeing to present a FACT-BASED ARGUMENT! The fact that none of his critics actually could, makes that game, set and match to Mr Fyle! The things brainwashed people say... Top stuff Emmanuel. More truthful and insightful than any of the watered down urine you'll find in any British paper!!

  35. Janthegooner

    Jun 12, 2011, 12:44 #8645

    How can some even argue that finishing in the top four is like a trophy? There was a time when we would all be disheartened at not winning the league, now finishing fourth in the land, just above Spurs I may add, is now deemed acceptable. This article is bang on, success is what holds a team together, reason as to why Barca are dominating world football, and as to why year in year out our better players leave.

  36. SUGA3

    Jun 12, 2011, 12:14 #8644

    clap, clap, clap... brilliant article!

  37. Limerickjack

    Jun 12, 2011, 12:05 #8643

    Wenger, must stay, but bring in a strong assistant someone who knows what it means to play and support The Arsenal, someone like Adams (even thou in a recent paper article he said , he wants to be number 1, his own man) or Keown. Someone who after wenger has left the dressing room spouting about beautiful football etc, will the players a right rollocking etc if needed, will pump fists and tell the players whats what, that and a decent keeper, Centreback, holding midfield and striker.

  38. cunninglydisgiusedspud

    Jun 12, 2011, 11:29 #8638

    Agree with much of this. Wenger must go. "Constantly repeating the same mistakes is the true sign of insanity" - Isaac Newton Wenger has lost the plot

  39. Vimbai

    Jun 12, 2011, 11:15 #8634

    I am getting bored of this website, the authors are just glorfied arm chair suppoerters who just spout the same dross as many type of news papers. stopped reading 3 paragraphs in... all the best you guys seems to do on here is "I said several months ago...." well if noone gave two hoots then noone will now, yea these type of articles will have the wenger out brigade happy and fuming which is what they prefer, but for the rest such as me I could not care less what you think so stop thinking of different ways of saying the same stuff.

  40. NBN

    Jun 12, 2011, 10:38 #8631

    Brilliant brilliant article, never a truer word written.

  41. chrisy boy

    Jun 12, 2011, 9:09 #8622

    All of us that are giving praise to this article should download it and send it to the club, you can feel the emotion of a real fan that like so many of us are hurting and worried about the direction of a great club. Remember we are not chelski, we are not citeh. And we are certainly not the scum from down the road, we are THE ARSENAL.

  42. Nick

    Jun 12, 2011, 5:52 #8612

    This article to be sent to the board!

  43. Online Spurs Strikes again

    Jun 12, 2011, 5:47 #8611

    Oh so now Cashley is justified in the way he left the club? It's clear to see that your hatred for Arsene is distorting your judgement, to say the least. I love Nasri and want him to stay but how in the world can we DOUBLE his salary when a) he didn't help us win anything to justify that kind of raise and b) we would have to use TRANSFER MONEY to pay his salary. Meaning that we WILL NOT be able to bring talent to surround him with? It's not ambition it's greed. He's already on a high salary, why can't he be satisfied?

  44. Paull Honeychurch

    Jun 12, 2011, 4:28 #8610

    For a little while I was actually buying into your rant but NO YOU ARE WRONG. Just tell us who can come in and do a better job than AW?, Man City have spent hundreds of millions of pounds on their squad and still can't win the league yet you complain about Wenger making the top four on a shoestring budget. He has made mistakes but we were so close this season to achieving greatness and have been improving year on year. Sure we need some changes but Wenger is not one of them, he hates losing and is one hundred percent committed to this club he will do everything he can to turn this around. Come on you Gooners ignore this apocalyptic take on our squad and support your team don't be poisoned by the medias negativity.

  45. Jakesolo

    Jun 12, 2011, 1:17 #8609

    Preach it, brother... The entire playing squad needs overhauling from top to bottom, otherwise Europa league, here we come....

  46. Brigham

    Jun 12, 2011, 0:01 #8608

    Great article and so very true about the current state of our beloved club right now. We are in turmoil and have been for the last three seasons really. For all the AKB, you are truly stupid and I shall say what you lot normally say, feck off to Spuds. If Wenger does not buy the right players in the close season, we are fecked and will be lucky to finish fourth.

  47. Colm

    Jun 11, 2011, 23:44 #8607

    Isn't it shocking how we have all become so delusional about the team, let's hope something changes in the next few weeks before pre season. Your article is correct but Stan won't sack Arsene in his first six mths in charge. 2011/2012 IS THE MAKE OR BREAK YEAR

  48. Keef

    Jun 11, 2011, 22:31 #8606

    The best summary yet of our current plight. I love what Wenger has done for us, but everyone has to go sometime, and sadly it feels it can only get worse from here. The youth experiment has failed dramatically - for which the spineless players should bear a lot of responsibility, but he chose them! It's like a very painful divorce where you still love each other but one side knows you will never again be able to dliver that initial spark of the early days despite being paid £6M pa to do it.

  49. TrueGuns

    Jun 11, 2011, 21:58 #8605

    Article is good but some offensive and racist-like comments on French-Africans... Should have been sanctioned. The rest of the article is good but in reality, I can't see anyone doing what AW has done with the budget he has. Sure, the club seems to fall apart but so be it if we can rebuilt with hungrier and more talented players. It's never been AW asking his players to get confused the last minute of a Calring cup finale. We beat Barca in the CL and out of all their opponents, the only ones to be cheated by the ref cos he (and UEFA) knew we were very potent. We did not get destroyed by MU... As for Samir, He knows CEsc is going and he will not leave cos AW will sell CF and Samir will take back his natural position (that of Cesc) which AW told him he won't be getting as long as Cesc was in the team. Wenger has done a lot. I rather him than a Mourinho or even Redknap who spend their way in success and always need 50-70m of player investment each season. We are not far but I will agree that AW need to hold his players accountable and so should he be accountable to the fans. Summary: Sell Cesc for 45m and Buy Etoo (40m). Sell Bendtner, Diaby, Denilson and Rosicky, get 30m and buy Cahill (20m) and Samba (10m)... and increase Samir's wages. Start playing Arshavin alongside RVP. Revert back to a 4-4-2 and change your defensive coach to teach everyone to defend on set-pieces. Finally, bring in a better psychologist and the result will be PL and CL cups for the 125th anniversary of the club...

  50. john

    Jun 11, 2011, 21:42 #8604

    Emmanuel, Spot on, who could blame Arsenals best players for wanting to leave. You have summed up exactly why. We are imploding, and with the French Deluded twat appearing to lose out again to sign Gervinho (going by other blogs and posts)it is i hope the beginning of the end of AW. (thank f***)

  51. AshamedGunners

    Jun 11, 2011, 21:33 #8603

    Emmanuel, Your article is extremely timely and should be sent to a national newspaper, cc'ing AW. Excellent analysis and whilst I am a little skeptical on who can replace AW, it is true I (like other true fans) am fed up of being hurt by the stupid behaviour of some of our players and a very placid manager. Ashamed of saying I support Arsenal and ashamed of the board not making AW accountable. His model has fallen and once again, like in Monaco, he has defo shown his limits. Should, we not qualify for CL (which I somehow hope), it will be an eye opener that his cycle is over and maybe we can then rebuild for good and focus on winning the League and FA cup double...

  52. Alex

    Jun 11, 2011, 20:28 #8602

    Great piece! Really eloquent and spot on. Just wished more Arsenal fans was as bright and eloquent as you. Top notch!

  53. West Lower Rob

    Jun 11, 2011, 20:16 #8601

    Diaby is a disgrace and it shows how alienated these mercenary losers are from the fans. Wouldnt it be nice if his actions could be justified as gross misconduct and we could sack him without having to pay off his contract.

  54. Ronster

    Jun 11, 2011, 20:01 #8600

    Anyone fancy chipping in to get 60,000 copies of this article printed and dropped over the stadium as we are about to once again gloriously go up to collect The Emirates Cup at the end of July?

  55. Nekuhan

    Jun 11, 2011, 19:24 #8599

    Spot on Mr Fyle! Just as if I wrote it myself. Ship Arsène Wenger (and Gazidis) out of our Club. End of the story.

  56. Ramgun

    Jun 11, 2011, 19:23 #8598

    Superb article. We have no hope as long as Wenger remains. I caught the end of an interview with Wenger on Sky and he is still in total denial. He even insisted that ALL of his goalkeepers were "great" last season! Thanks for the article. It is nice to know that those of us who know that our identity has been shredded by Wenger are not alone. In fact, we might soon be in the majority.

  57. Ajay

    Jun 11, 2011, 19:17 #8597

    Totally agree with your views. That we still finished fourth shows how poor the league was this year. Unless some real quality is signed this summer, I predict that we will be replaced by Liverpool in the top four next season and Arsene will be asked to resign to spare him the sack come season end. The AFC Board must be the highest paid non performing Board in all of football! Do these people do anything apart from collecting their fat checques!!

  58. venky

    Jun 11, 2011, 19:11 #8596

    Wow Emmanuel ! wow!! you have a fantastic ability of presenting things in an acceptable rather appreciable way. But the final argument that Wenger was responsible for everything bad at arsenal is a total disgrace to the man who revolutionised modern Arsenal. while some of the aspects like complacency are acceptable the rest are unfounded and unacceptable. Nasri wanting to go and him speaking about Manu are treacherous and purely for money I don't buy the argument that he wants Wenger to buy before committing. Phil Jones signed for Manu because he himself said that he is diehard Manu fan. Likewise I can answer a lot of your questions but I dont have time for that By the way,in your article, why has not there been a mention of the new stadium ? why do so many young players want to come to Arsenal ? Why do we boast ourselves as the best footballing team in the world behind Barcelona ? why was there no mention about the refreeing bias shown against us? Why is our club not in debt like Manure or Liverpool or Madrid or Barca ? Reason: Arsene Wenger. True, he had made some mistakes, I agree, but are you perfect in your job ?, nobody is. We needed some patience to come out of the financial difficulty caused by the new stadium and that time has come for us when we could make some big buys, from now on I am sure we would be on the rise again and once we win the first trophy we would be on our way. By the way congratulations to you for having successfully fooled so many of the readers

  59. Murph

    Jun 11, 2011, 17:44 #8595

    The truth hurts... Cesc is not a Captain in any sense of the word. RVP seems to be by default. How can Cesc lead and motivate a team when he has one foot in the New Camp? As far as the much talked about great rebuilding project of this summer... teenagers need only apply. two 17s and a few Barca academy kids, same as it ever was. And the defections are mounting. Wenger has lost the plot, and the dressing room in the process. If he would just add some leadership and steal to this team, things just might chage in short order. But at the end of the day, if a top player has his choice of top teams right now, does he chose Liverpool over Arsenal. I think he just might. And that is a shame.

  60. Unix_Guy

    Jun 11, 2011, 17:14 #8594

    Wenger dont have any sort of confidence . He must go out !!

  61. Rohan

    Jun 11, 2011, 17:12 #8593

    well u are right the current team does not have player like Adams or Parlour who can reprimand players well Captaincy is another problem in our team

  62. Dan_85

    Jun 11, 2011, 17:08 #8592

    Excellent piece, bang on the money. This club needs a complete shake up from the top down.

  63. ArsenalApocolypse

    Jun 11, 2011, 17:02 #8591

    Truest story on Arsenal I have heard in a long long time.

  64. GaryFootscrayAustralia

    Jun 11, 2011, 16:57 #8590

    From the current squad, the players that epitomise my view of representing The Arsenal in the manner expected are Wilshere, Van Persie, Vermaelen and Sagna. Time will tell whether I add Ramsey, Chesney, Djorou, and possibly Gibbs to that list...but sadly, nobody else. I'm sure you lot have all got similar lists, it's the first time I've seen mine on screen and it seems...a bit too short...

  65. SilverGooner

    Jun 11, 2011, 16:56 #8589

    To SAL, DAVE and ODD MANDY....I look forward to reading your articles justifying how everything at the club is as rosy as you seem to think it is. To Emmanuel - if only your article was rubbish I would be looking forward to next season.

  66. chandu

    Jun 11, 2011, 16:18 #8588

    let cesc go, build the team around nasri and wilshire

  67. Roger Moore

    Jun 11, 2011, 16:07 #8587

    Okay...so AW needs to go! Who should he be replaced by? Also, does anyone feel that the Club was sold to the wrong shareholder? Kroenke, from his public utterances at least, seems to want to continue with the same failed approach of the last six years(which is probably why DF sold to him)...whereas the Uzbeki has far deeper pockets, and in 2009 when we got smashed by MU in the CL semi, he showed that he would not be averse to strengthening the squad: Usmanov said: "At times it was a bit like men against boys. "Does the club need to take a step up? Of course. "To be first in the world, to be first in Europe, you must have a much stronger bench. "Look at United on Tuesday night. They had at least £100million in talent sitting on the bench."

  68. Sam

    Jun 11, 2011, 15:52 #8586

    I believe Wenger is completely to blame for this seasons short comings as ultimately he is responsible for the players he has brought in and let go, for not even attempting to repair the obvious faults everyone else can see and the fact he constantly instils a mantra that being an also ran is good enough for this team and for showing endless faith in non-league players such as Bendter and Almunia. Even after all this there is still a place for him at Arsenal, but there needs to be someone at the club to contract his extreme stubbornness and lack of anything close to leadership skills such as a Dean, Adams or Keown figure as after all his idealism has been shown to work with Barcelona.

  69. Gillyo

    Jun 11, 2011, 15:36 #8585

    How can some people say you have not given facts, if all you did was to list facts? Great article, spot on. I think Wenger would be a great manager for small clubs, where he could achieve relatively important things for small clubs. I used to love Cesc, but after what he did on the last game of the season, I completely lost respect for him.

  70. Mark2

    Jun 11, 2011, 15:26 #8584

    David Dein was a master at convincing potential purchases about joining the Arsenal revolution. he is persuasive, charismatic, visionary and under him Arsenal was seen to be a club with a very bright future and many players bought into what he told them. Now it is AW who is trying to persuade players to come here and despite what many think money is not the only tool to get a player to come. alot of players want to hear about the plans, the future and see a manager with passion and excitement spilling over. I bet being presented to by AW right now is like talking to an Undertaker. he behaves like a loser, he will be distracted as he has a mutiny in his ranks of players wanting to leave while his job this summer was actually to make us stronger. overall i predict that he will not be a strong enough person to break this losing streak and we will miss out to liverpool, spurs, chels, man city and utd time and again because their current set up is at least positive. spurs and harry won loads of fans in europe last year by the way they set about some top clubs. Dalglish is a legend who no doubt abt it will train players to be their very best. chelsea will just pay top dollar, theyre in london and last 6 years had tons of success. city are on the up and man u are already started rebuilding and tweaking even after a succesful year. Put yourself in Phil Jones shoes or Gary Cahill or Scott Parker etc and what do you think you would do ? join a morose frenchman whom you suspect has max 1 year left or join 1 of these other clubs ?? momentum is key here and it is against Arsenal right now. moral is low. current form abysmal and fans discontented. this is not the place to come. How do you stop this ? well you go out and spend £50m on 3 top players all within a couple of days and hold a high profile press conference with all of them there. suddenly everyone sits up. Arsenal mean business. will this happen ? i doubt it very much.

  71. Pockets

    Jun 11, 2011, 15:24 #8583

    Some great points made. I really do think there is a certain disrespect amongst some of the players and Wenger needs to sort this problem out pronto. I remember being at a Youth cup final at Highbury, and seeing Jay Bothroyd (promising young striker) Subbed. He then threw his shirt at Don Howe in a disgraceful show of disrespect. He was rightly released by the club, and in more ways than one , sent to Coventry. He would probably be rewarded with a payrise and new contract nowadays. I'd like to see Steve Bould promoted to first team coach and hopefully drum some respect into this bunch. And I'm sure he could teach them a thing or two about defending set-pieces!

  72. james

    Jun 11, 2011, 15:15 #8582

    brilliant. The problem is now that arsenal could afford to drop points and still get into the champions league but with the rate of progression of city, liverpool and tottenham. Arsenal may find it difficult to hold on to that number 4 spot.

  73. Pete M

    Jun 11, 2011, 15:13 #8581

    Emmanuel Fyle - Well said, every word. It's not simply a case of bringing in players, a culture has clearly been allowed to flourish in the club which is destructive.

  74. Muzza

    Jun 11, 2011, 15:11 #8580

    great article Emmanuel, sums up what i have been feeling for the past few seasons. You clearly know what you are talking about unlike gooner s who obviously has absolutely no idea as to what is happening to our magnificent club.

  75. Rossa14

    Jun 11, 2011, 15:02 #8579

    100% accurate and I am guessing the huge majority of supporters agree - shakespere couldn't have put it better.

  76. Nick

    Jun 11, 2011, 14:58 #8578

    Excellent post, well thought out and well written ,i find myself unfortunately, in agreement with every word,and although its early days in the transfer window, i feel that it will be a case of "now is our summer of discontent made miserable winter by this son of gaul"

  77. Gerry

    Jun 11, 2011, 14:52 #8577

    Brilliant article mate, you have highlighted everything that is wrong with our once great club. We are the Arsenal with great traditions and history which is been destroyed by this crop of championship players at best. The club is rotten from top to bottom and something has to change or we will slide deeper and deeper into mediocrity.

  78. Reggie

    Jun 11, 2011, 14:39 #8576

    I believe the professors days as a good football manager are behind him. i think you hit the nail on the head when you said that our players need to understand the value of playing for this great team and really start upholding this to the latter...wenger said that he will be active in the transfer window but his culture of signing teenagers is still continuing with our latest acquisition...a great player he may be but these are not the kind of players that we need right now. For sure its hard to say this but Wenger if u do not redeem yourself this coming season by winning trophies...You are gone...i believe we will even struggle to qualify for the champions league Man Up Wenger or we will Man You Up by showing you the door!!!

  79. Dan h

    Jun 11, 2011, 14:28 #8575

    Some interesting points made but looking at player contracts especially why do we leave renewing them until there is a 12-18 months left?It's rank bad management & we have had our fingers burned on this issue too many times.IMO if you sign any player on a significant transfer fee it should be done on a 5 year deal initially as it shows commitment both sides but for us it protects the asset.We are in danger of becoming a stepping stone club young players getting experience then moving on to lose Nasri at 23/24 years old makes a mockery of the investment in youth.It sends out the wrong signals to the other players if we are not carefull we will become the english version of Ajax.

  80. Never Outgunned

    Jun 11, 2011, 14:23 #8574

    I don't really know why the Song example is in there, it's to do with Cameroon and not Arsenal so has no real relevance to what song thinks of himself in the scale of things. After all, do you get on with all your colleagues? how do you not know that Etoo isn't a big headed wanker in real life? Would you bow and scrape in front of a colleague who's achieved more, even if they happen to be a ****? It's a Cameroon nation side issue, means nothing to Arsenal or Arsenal fans.

  81. Marcus

    Jun 11, 2011, 14:20 #8573

    Very good article. I love Arsenal and always will but as far as the players that wear the shirt at the moment go, I am disgusted by them and feel no connection to them at all. They are a bunch of spoilt brats who behave so poorly because Wenger never says a cross word to them. We fans and the club deserve much much more. The saddest thing is that when I heard Diaby wore an Arsenal shirt in his house I wasn't even suprised or disgusted, it just fitted in with how clueless and detatched from reality I perceive our players to be

  82. Limerickjack

    Jun 11, 2011, 14:19 #8572

    Why don't you muppets give it a rest, Arsene is a legend' all we need is a decent keeper, centre back, holding midfielder and a good out & out striker oh and maybe a decent assistant manager maybe big tone. Not that much really.

  83. Tim G

    Jun 11, 2011, 14:14 #8571

    Fantastic article. Agree with everything you say. Why can't all the people who disagree with it put together any constructive argument? Just to say "it's rubbish" just shows how shallow thier point of view is.

  84. Simon Taylor

    Jun 11, 2011, 14:05 #8570

    Disgusting , how dare you use a picture of that left back .

  85. Kieran

    Jun 11, 2011, 13:47 #8569

    Very good article. This needs to be heard or read by every Arsenal fan, even the jokers who are still clinging on to AW.

  86. Paul Turner

    Jun 11, 2011, 13:47 #8568

    This article is pointless, baseless and utter nonsense not to mention bigoted (French-African, come on, what are you? BNP). AW is Arsenal's most successful manager. I am glad the the Arsenal board and management have more sense than you and know that sacking him will be a wrong move.

  87. DEL

    Jun 11, 2011, 13:44 #8567

    most arsenal fans are aware of what happening. I believe we need a new manager. I would like Gus huddinck ( however you spell it) but we won't get him. I said we should have paid Ashley cole what he wanted when at Arsenal he was considered and is still the best left back in the country, and one of the top 5 in the world. he was worth the money Wenger for years won't buy the players he needs. He keeps trying to develop players, doing that you won't win anything. Look back to when we last won something. how many up and coming players did we have in the team. Very few most were established players who had mastered their trade, not learning it. Denilson not good enough for PL and won't be bought by a big team in europe becuase his not up to that level. Nasri will stay if wenger buys the players. Bentdner not good enough for us either. Squillaci is too slow, Eboue I would like to stay Diaby should not talk to the press. we need at least 4 good not including Jenkinson Margarine is one molecule away from being plastic, and shares 27 ingredinets with paint. we need that one molecule to be indestuctible. one is irreplaceable but the problem is when you dont replace the player with better or just as good.

  88. ollyarsenal

    Jun 11, 2011, 13:41 #8566

    the truth hurts......

  89. dartford gooner

    Jun 11, 2011, 13:38 #8565

    Very well written piece Emmanuel, i agree with a lot you have said. How many players ever want to leave the Mancs ? only the winker that i can think of. We need to get players in who not only want to play for arsenal but fight for the badge with pride. Odd Mandy, i wonder how you got that name? think of something better than go and watch spurs. Your love of arsene is touching and i think some of the stuff thrown at him has been over the top, but just how many more years do we give him to win something?

  90. patrick omari

    Jun 11, 2011, 13:27 #8564

    Some of the stuff you say is true but the racist undertone about African-french is disgusting. How many african-french do we see week in week out playing their socks off to the delight of the masses? Do you want me to remind you their names? and also remind you English players who have gone through Arsenal straight to the gutter.Style up!

  91. Chris

    Jun 11, 2011, 13:04 #8563

    Spot on article - best anti-Wenger article I have read. Most are pure drivel but this is hard to argue with.

  92. a1

    Jun 11, 2011, 13:03 #8562

    one of the best articles on the current state of arsenal that i have read, well done.

  93. Jai

    Jun 11, 2011, 13:02 #8561

    4 or 5 world class players carrying less than a mediocre team is Arsene's idea of a winning season!

  94. Ovmiester

    Jun 11, 2011, 12:57 #8560

    You are a very poor writer, talk about contradiction at its worst. Please stop talking so much rubbish, yeah there is dead weight but the board have more to answer to. Who replaces Wenger as well and maintains our top four position, with the same budget?

  95. Andrew Cohen

    Jun 11, 2011, 12:52 #8559

    Mark, you aren't correct. No amount of empirical evidence will convince the AKB's. They have hope because they believe in his ability to progress, no matter how many times the same losing game plan is played out. Those who have no such faith want him gone. This coming season we will see that the players do as well. The ex-pro's will then start overt criticism in the media. Then the board will follow. Then he will go, and we will have to watch an old friend be humiliated, because he didn't know when to walk.

  96. Exiled-Gooner

    Jun 11, 2011, 12:50 #8557

    I wholeheartedly agree with the article,we can praise Wenger what he did at the beginning of his reign but since 2004 he has himself blemished that creditability with what should have be a golden age instead taken us back to mediocrity.We have money and always had otherwise how could the dross we got keep getting improved financial contracts to the tune of £50-60k a week for failure where other top teams only pay there squad players half that or pay a large portion of debt off in one hit and still post end year profits of £25,£32 and £53million no this is down to Wenger stubbornness and egotistic fantasy of winning titles with academy players and so refuses to bring in the quality which is required.It's ironic that all his success was at HIGHBURY with crowds of 38,000 etc and while there spent,in those days,large amount of money on players like Henry,Vieira etc etc we also attracted or linked with the best in European football ,young or established,but now we not even mentioned in connection with such players but the spuds are!!!.He can't motivate the team anymore,he's tactically inept,he has moodle-coodle the squad and instilled that there way better than there really are,he has also ingrained in them that a C/L spot is success not actually winning the title...in other words no ambition.If we lose both Nasri and Cesc and don't replace with the quality needed then next season will be more excruciating than the one just gone and it's damning indication when you have the likes of Denil**** and Bendtner publicity quote there want to leave to WIN trophies,i understand with Nas and Cesc but these two,no The Arsenal has lost creditability and it's tradition,it has become a business aimed at profit and a selling club.As a long time Gooner i can except us having a stretch of trophyless seasons,blimey i went through the 70's and 80's till george came along, but this time it,s been unnecessarily self induced and continues to be so until we have a manager installed who DEMANDS changes.

  97. John

    Jun 11, 2011, 12:45 #8556

    Sel, Dave and old mandy. How is this article nonsense, rubbish etc. You are so far up Arsenes arse you are all blinded by his s..t. Best article yet from Emmanuel. Spot on

  98. boringthisinnit

    Jun 11, 2011, 12:31 #8555

    What a load of verbose hyperbole and sensationalism. Or in plainer English, horse****. bendtner and denilson want to leave for first team football, why is that a reflection on Arsene's policy? Simply not developed as expected and now not good enough for us. Who cares what Song and Etoo get up to on international duty? Song never rocks the boat as far as I'm aware for us. Nasri has been here for three seasons, so not a part of the project just an extremely talented, arrogant player who's negotiating for a bigger contract, one we may never be able to offer him, and he has decided to play it out in the press. Not sure how that is Wenger's fault and Samir is a saint? By that rationale, Adebayor was a legend for us. Clichy, well he's a trier and has been a good servant to the club but he's definitely the weak link at the back and if the rumours are to be believed (see I can selectively use internet gossip to prove my point too) he hasn't been offered an improved contract as Wenger has reservations over his development, ie we need a better player. I'll give you Cesc though, that was disappointing. But he's clearly going to Barca and has been for a while in his head, so time for everyone to move on.

  99. pablo

    Jun 11, 2011, 12:27 #8554

    This article should be printed and sent directly to Stan Kroenke, the man who really holds the club's future in his hands. It is very well written and explains perfectly what the situation really is. With every great performance (and there have been some this season) I have been finding reasons to resist my gut feeling, which is that Wenger is a deluded megolomaniac who has lost the ability to manage players and their contracts, has no idea of how to assemble a competent defence (that Arsenal have been always known for), and who arrogantly expects us all to believe that the squad as a whole continues to maintain that famous 'mental strength'. But again, when it really mattered, Wenger and his band of Carlos Fandangos have come up way, way short. I personally never understood why Wenger persisted in trying to placate want-aways (Henry, Gallas, Fabregas) by making them captain - a completely ridiculous tactic. Now, during a summer when we were promised that investment in players would be made, we are seeing that not only do players not want to come here but the ones that we have who are any good at all want out. The wheels are falling off, people, it is (as the article rightly points out) Wenger's fault and the club that we love is becoming a shadow of its former self. The bottom line here - and I still hate to say it, because Wenger did do a lot of great things for Arsenal in his time - is that it's time for the club to move in a new direction.

  100. Gare Kekeke

    Jun 11, 2011, 12:15 #8553

    Another fantastic piece on the Online Gooner highlighting everything that is wrong with our club. Clear, concise and spot on (except for the Samuel Eto'o 2 European Cup wins, which is actually three, but I'll let you off on that!) AKB's or whatever you are called, read this great article, digest it and consider whether you're so-called great leader has the bollocks to put things right at our great club. I'm certainly of the opinion that he dosen't and the sad decline of Arsene Wenger, which has been in action since he broke up the invicible team rapidly between 2005-07 will witness a new low next season unless significant changes are made. But I believe like many they won't happen and 2011/12 is going to be a very long and difficult season for us, just as it was for Rafa Benitez (2 more European trophies than Wenger, FACT) at Liverpool in 2009/10.

  101. andrew

    Jun 11, 2011, 12:14 #8552

    Great article. agree, wenger has had it too easy. Morinho was right when he said, any other manager would have been sacked. Having said that, it would make no sense to get a new manager now - let wenger go when his contract is up. Then he won't get a big pay off or be able to cry about not being given a chance. Everything you said about the aides - including nasri - seems right to me. We need some British players tocomple ment wiltshires

  102. Al

    Jun 11, 2011, 12:07 #8551

    Brilliant, brilliant piece. My thoughts exactly. Arsenal will never again be successful with Wenger in charge. I am absolutely desperate for this man to leave already, and I don't care if we stop playing this so called "pretty football".

  103. AKIRA333

    Jun 11, 2011, 12:00 #8550

    I am not sure if many of you know or remember me but I used to post on the Arsenal 606 BBC board a few years back up until when it was recently shiut down....If any of you do remember me- youll know that since January 2008 when we sold Lassana Diarra I have questioned Wenger....I used to get the Arsene knows parade on my back everytime I used to post 'dissent' about this man......I also said that Wenger was a Director of Football not a coach...and I was shocked that this was confirmed by Tony Adams yesterday with his statement.... Wenger is a joke and so are Arsenal as a footballing entity- we are purely now just a business model- making the likes of Gazidis and the rest of the board richer....How they put 6% up on ticket prices is scandalous...I know a few people selling their season tickets now- as they simply cannot afford it. Arsenal the working man club has gone to Arsenal the corporate....Gone are the days where you'd see Paul Merson in the Gunners pub or Stevie Bould, Dicko, Wrighty and Smudge in the Arsenal fish bar eating Chinese...Its all gone.....A very sad time in my life as an Arsenal fan

  104. Ronster

    Jun 11, 2011, 11:56 #8549

    Emmanuel take a bow. I was fortunate to be at a fans' Q&A with Lee Dixon in the press room about 18 months ago.Lee was bemoaning the fact that Wenger's policies had left the dressing room bereft of characters able to hammer home the Arsenal way. Interesting to read Tony Adams coming out in favour of Georgie Graham yesterday over Wenger.Who are we to argue with Arsenal's greatest post war player!

  105. James Coleman

    Jun 11, 2011, 11:49 #8548

    The best article I have ever read on this website. The transfer dealings this week highlight where Arsenal are at present. Jordan Henderson (Liverpool) £20m, Ashley Young and Phil Jones (Man Utd) £37m; Jenkinson (Arsenal) £1m. The best players continuously want to leave and we are left with mediocity. I can see us losing all 3 of Fabregas, Nasri, and Clichy this summer. Yes even Clichy wants to leave us. Whilst our rivals will settle all their transfer recruitment prior to pre-season we will be making our move in the bargain basement on 31st August transfer deadline day to save a few quid. The club are not concerned that the season may have started, dropped points etc provided they pay well below the odds. Just like we cannot defend corners we cannot even defend ourselves against Liverpool, Man Utd and Barca stealing our players. Arsenal do not have any ambition. Wenger & Gazidis had a chance last year - to take control of the Premier League, Uefa fair play rules coming in, Fabregas staying for a final year, but they blew it. All we had to do was invest to win - Any stopgap goalkeeper; an English defender (you can't win the Premier league without stopping Sam Allardyce style goals), and a fast direct forward (Etoo style). All Wenger had to do after that was to play the correct players in their correct positions. Nasri, Arshavin, Rosicky, Walcott and Bendtner cannot play out wide. Two of the above should have been moved on and replaced with real wide players. The balance of the squad was wrong. What happened to Arsenal's pace. Speed. We have no penetration.The only successful penetration Wenger managed last year was with his mistress.

  106. Andrew

    Jun 11, 2011, 11:45 #8547

    Superb article and the most reasoned judgement of the current situation that I have read. My major concern would be that the spirit and culture you describe will take many years to rebuild. There are very few players (if any) at the club currently who can share the mantra of the honour of playing for Arsenal. Perhaps the only way this can be asserted on the current crop is to bring back the likes of Keown, Dixon, Adams and Bergkamp. The solution might have been mooted on countless occasions but only because it is a logical one, and an immediate way of galvanising players and fans alike. It may be early but it's shaping up to be a tough summer to be an Arsenal fan.

  107. Martin 90

    Jun 11, 2011, 11:41 #8546

    Really good article - which reflects the thoughts of the majority of Arsenal fans! Funny that you still have idiots coming in with comments about " go and support spurs" and "Wenger knows what he is doing so your aticle is rubbish". Unfortunately I cannot see any changes in the current mangement even if we gradually slip down the table. The American majority owner only cares about the value of his shares!

  108. Rich-23

    Jun 11, 2011, 11:35 #8545

    Superb article, bang on the money... Where is the pride at putting on an Arsenal shirt? These players are just concerned about the money!!

  109. CD

    Jun 11, 2011, 11:33 #8544

    Great article. What I find so frustrating is that so many people refuse to open their eyes and see what is happening at our club. It's almost as if they are under some kind of spell, where they refuse to analyse the evidence as highlighted in this post as well as numerous others, that we are simply going backwards, and will continue to do so whilst this board and Wenger are in control.

  110. gunnerfromdownunder

    Jun 11, 2011, 11:30 #8543

    straight to the point and written from the heart....and heart is what is lacking at the club. Questionable judgement, lack of pride and mediocre players are quickly transforming our great club.

  111. John Evans

    Jun 11, 2011, 11:26 #8542

    "It is high time, Arsenal fans stopped blaming players for leaving all the time, and start asking why the likes of Squillaci, Eboue and Diaby are happy to remain at Arsenal; whilst the likes of Fabregas, Henry, Nasri and Cole are so desperate to leave." Spot on. The only people that would argue with the above comments are newcomers to the grove who don't know jack about the clubs history and traditions.

  112. vedi

    Jun 11, 2011, 11:16 #8541

    Why Liverpool,Manchester United,Chelsea and Man City can buy players with experience and not Arsenal?It's a shame.

  113. Block G Gooner

    Jun 11, 2011, 11:13 #8540

    Best post in a long time - nailed on!! I have been saying for the past 4 years that the club has lost its identity thanks to Wenger and his french love affair. We support a team of cheese eating surrender monkies!!! I want my club back!!!!!!

  114. Saif Sohail

    Jun 11, 2011, 11:03 #8539

    Absolutely outstanding ! and you are 100 % on the dot. Excellent citing as to why our top players want to leave. Frankly speaking I too am losing my patience with Wenger. If he does not buy well this summer and the first 3 weeks are a disaster, he will have to go then. His chances WILL be up. Wenger is a super cat. He seems to be having innumerable sets of 9 lives. Even as you cited, why did Ray Parlour have to tell Henry about the NL Derby ? Why could Wenger not do that ? RvP has to be captain for me. He understands the club fully and knows what the fans want. Fabregas should go. His head is in Barca 24x7. Wenger is frankly wasting time right now. Jenkinson is no signing. He will go into the reserve side. Where are the champion players as promised. There are around 63 days remaining for the next season to start, and time is ticking. He took 20 days to sign a Charlton player. And you are right. People take Arsenal as a joke. Even though we are in the top 10 big clubs in the world, we are treated as a mid table club. Arsene Wenger has ruined our heritage. Undeniable fact. It is a make or break season for him, and I hope he wakes up

  115. Steve

    Jun 11, 2011, 11:03 #8538

    It will be interesting to see exactly what will happen in the transfer market this summer - Arsene must be in the last-chance saloon. It would also be interesting to know how much of the past five years' transfer activity is down to the manager's insistence to see through his youth policy and how much is due to financial constraints. In many ways I admire Wenger for deliver Champion's League football for 15 years in a row, but patience is beginning to wear a little thin.

  116. crocodile

    Jun 11, 2011, 11:02 #8537

    What the hell is Stan Kronkie doing while this is all going on , what is that man's purpose ? why is he there , does he have any money ? I knew the day we handed our great football club over to the Yanks that would be it , and as for arsene time to go mate enough bull**** ... Arsene Wenger out ....

  117. Paddy

    Jun 11, 2011, 10:58 #8536

    Arsenal Plc, Not Arsenal AFC, We get it that Arse-hole has to go with most of our board but it will not happen until some fans/wenger rent boys are told some history.

  118. Ren Vassilliou

    Jun 11, 2011, 10:47 #8533

    Spot on every paragraph and every sentence , i have said all along Arsene Wenger thinks he is bigger than the Club.. he has somehow managed to minipulate the board with he dreams , the fact you made the IvAN Gazidis is a waste os space is so so true , how can they let these guys ran down their contracts until there is one year left, if that was David Dein that would never happen in a million years , what i want to know is what are the board doing about all this going on , has anyone tackled Wenger and said" we can't let this Boy Nasri go at any cost " what is going on no body knows , we will become an average team in the next 3 years Fact .. Wenger will continue to believe that he can strike Oil in a well that is as dry as a bone .. we need a new direction and new investment,if it don't happen i am afraid to think of the concequences ...

  119. wolski

    Jun 11, 2011, 10:45 #8532

    not sure my last post got through.. Well written sir! Exactly what is wrong with our club, overpaid average players who have no idea of the meaning of playing from Arsenal and wearing the shirt...Gallas had it right, certain players are more interested in what car they drive, what watch they wear, what stupid colour hair they have....fed up with these...clear them out and lets get our Arsenal back

  120. KAYODE

    Jun 11, 2011, 10:44 #8531

    This article strikes at the very heart of our problem. Initially, I used to think that one of the reasons the board persist with Wenger is because he brought in most of the key players and they could be tempted to ditch the club if he is fired. Now we all know better. The key players are obviously fed up with him and wont mind a change. Anyone can call them mercenaries but at least they are on the same page with all sane gooners with regards to ambition. Wenger lost the plot long time ago..(I actually doubt he has any plot). When a coach fails to understand the core his team and tweak that team to achieve success for over five season then we can safely say that coach is tactically inept. We all seem to know the problems of the team every season. He has become tactically predictable to all teams and he never seem to see it. ITS TIME FOR WENGER TO GO...I AM CERTAIN MOST OF OUR KEY PLAYERS WILL ALSO WELLCOME THE DEVELOPMENT. WENGER HAS LOST THE DRESSING ROOM. LETS WAIT AND SEE IF KRONKE WILL HAVE THE BALLS TO DO THE NEEDFUL. GREAT ARTICLE.!

  121. Andy M

    Jun 11, 2011, 10:35 #8530

    Depressingly accurate

  122. Paul10

    Jun 11, 2011, 10:35 #8529

    The team are spineless, the manager is delusional. The group have no leader and as mentioned above, too many players unworthy of lining up for the Gunners, do so week in week out. As long as a top 4 finish is the sum of boardroom ambitions, this under achieving culture will remain the order of the day. New personalities need to be shipped in double quick in order to raise expectations! Players do need to leave also - but not our better ones.

  123. The Happening

    Jun 11, 2011, 10:29 #8528

    Love this! Especially highlighting Ashleys wise words! I had a feeling something was up within the culture of the club when he left, i could almost sense his disillusionment at how it all came about, at the end of the day these guys are footballers, they play to win, well at this level they paid too, at the end of the day they wanna look back and see a shelf full of medals! Now, its good that you've highlighted that the culture of the club is dis-integrating, it's identitiy too, these things are what made me love this club when i became a supporter, they are unrecogniseable now, true, over the course of a season we might catch something subliminal, but there is no backbone, no grit in our team, perhaps one or two players retain this? Arsene Wenger is panic buying.

  124. Mike

    Jun 11, 2011, 10:28 #8527

    Very interesting comments. However please name another manager out there at moment that will do a better job than Arsene with the resources available. Fact of the matter is, that over the last 5 years his budget allocations have left him with a very very mediocre team which play well above the level that they should be playing. Still being that as it is, he has had Championship qualification every year. It will be worse next year due to the fact the bigger spending clubs are taking the best players available by offering rediculous wages. Nasri and Clichy may be two of the more experienced players but are surely replaceable. They have been noticed as result of playing for Arsenal. The amount of goals that were conceded from the left side this year as well as the loss of form of Nasri shows that these players are not consistent. A lot of praise must go to like of Van Persie who was a shining beacon during the latter half of the year. However, his great efforts coincided and were overshadowed with the Arsenal meltdown. Yes money has to be spent - but it will take a lot more than what most people are saying to replace the mediocrity built up over the last six years as a result of lack of funding

  125. Fozzy's mate

    Jun 11, 2011, 10:25 #8526

    Emmanuel - I very much enjoyed your article which I found thoughtful and reflective. These fears of complacency, were first felt by me 3/4 years ago. OGL has created a massive comfort zone with no pressure to perform or deliver results. The leads to the veage wanting to stay and the bets wanting to go or slipping back into the mire and becoming average themselves. This is in my opinion fuelled by AW himself wishing to live within the same zone, where by spending no money he has his get out of jail free card in his back pockets. His stock riposte of nobody thought we would be in the top four is laughable as it his lamentable failure to build a squad with any steel that hs taken us to where we are. Your point re identity is a strong one. Apart from a handful who are obvious, do we the fleeced fans care who goes or stays? Our mix of arrogant, supine and graceless players mirror what OGL has become. By letting the squad decay to the current level with some of the best players sure to leave, the rebuilding job is massive and I dont know if the top British players will want to join us, as at the ned of the GG era change is needed or alternatively the catalyst of a number of Begkamp like signings. Hillwood, Gazidis et al are pointless and only add to the culture of doom circling the club at present. Gazidis said a few months ago, that despite the club being in a fantastic financial position, AW's strategy required extroardinary patience from the fans. Unfortunately this has run out.

  126. Claude

    Jun 11, 2011, 10:25 #8525

    You start well, then it just becomes a rant. You ask--- "What were Wenger and Gazidis both doing when it became clear that each player only had two years of their contracts remaining?" They were preparing the ground for new contract negotiations. That what. The players dont like or want the new offers. I'm not sure how Bendtner wanting to leave a side he can't get into is a reflection of Arsenal's delusions of grandeur. By the time you get to Diaby, you're positively not making sense. He wears a Spurs shirt that Kaboul gave him at home, fer chrissakes. It does not support your central theory at all. Far more persuasive is the case of Phil Jones, the second young major English defensive talent (after Smalling) to choose to sit on the bench at Manu, than almost certainly challenge for a place in the Arsenal back 4. Arsenal do not have the cachet any more. The team's seen as weak and mentally frail, and certainly as things stand, United are miles ahead of us in player appeal.

  127. Lucy Van Pelt

    Jun 11, 2011, 10:23 #8524

    Hats off to you, Mr Fyle. A brilliant, brilliant post that echoes word by word everything I have been thinking over the last couple of months. The way things are allowed to slide at the club under the aegis of the uninterested Kroenke, the pointless Gazidis and the self obsessed disgrace that is Wenger is simply unacceptable. The fans have to make a concerted effort to take the situation into their own hands, starting with the AST Q&A on monday and by continuing the end of season protests that marked the end of last season. Wenger abhors conflict, and a groundswell of sustained anger from the stands will force him to walk. PS anyone out there with their customary and highly innovative invitation to 'go and support Spurs' at the ready, take a walk now. I care deeply about what's happening to my club, and I want to bring about change before it's too late.

  128. JollyMike

    Jun 11, 2011, 10:14 #8523

    When did this become Spurs Online? I'm so sick of all the negative!

  129. RvPugsie

    Jun 11, 2011, 10:14 #8522

    Sad for me to say this, but you are 100% right. Brilliant article. I've just coughed up £2150 for mine and my son's season tickets. Why? Because it would break an 11 year old's heart if I didn't. It wasn't because of any loyalty to the useless tossers running our once great club. Top 6 if we're lucky next season.

  130. Dave from the pub

    Jun 11, 2011, 10:05 #8521

    Quality mate

  131. stonroy

    Jun 11, 2011, 10:03 #8520

    brilliant article. Send it into Arsenal

  132. JohnGeeTee

    Jun 11, 2011, 9:57 #8519

    Excellent piece. I have been one of those 'Arsene knows' division but lately not so much. All Arsenal fans should read this as a one of those take a step back and have a look at the big picture moments. The plan isn't working, it hasn't been working. The overall draft is sound enough but you can't fulfil it with a seemingly non ending influx of promising kids and journeymen. If Arsenal do not have a Liam Brady style busy transfer activity close season and I'm willing to be patient over the next weeks and we begin the new season with more of the same then I'm afraid only one transfer will be enough. that of the manager.

  133. Zbizz

    Jun 11, 2011, 9:56 #8518

    I'm definitely of the opinion Arsene should be given one more chance to rectify things, but this article is incredibley good. You make a great pint about Gazidis - cant help but feel that someone of David Dean's ilk would have cracked some heads a long time ago to prevent a situation like this. Players of diaby and denilsons "calibre" making the comments they have done make me physically sick.

  134. Mark

    Jun 11, 2011, 9:54 #8517

    we are finished as a major club and next season will prove it to all the people on the blog who have just not got it since Feb even when it was blindingly obvious we had a problem if you knew anything about football. we will not have the players with the spirit or fight next season to pull us out of this nosedive and it is wengers and no one elses fault. he is too revered by the board and too many people and under not enough pressure to get it right and this is the consequence. ive done the wrong thing renewing my tickets but im born and bred and didnt think about it enough. Richard Ansell i need to hear your thoughts.

  135. Dave

    Jun 11, 2011, 9:51 #8516

    Very poor article. So much rubbish being spouted its hard pick out specific low-lights.

  136. Sel

    Jun 11, 2011, 9:40 #8515

    Nonsense, total nonsense!

  137. dan

    Jun 11, 2011, 9:39 #8514

    Awesome - you summed up my entire state of mind! The whole place is rotten and it all comes from our idiot manager - at some point all Arsenal fans are going to see this clearly and there will be no division. The performances we saw in the games from CC Final onwards tell you all you need to know about Wenger - this was the blossoming of all his coaching, tactics, promises, faith, vision (all completely absent by the way) - all exposed as the Emperor's new clothes. Fabregas will be gone next year - and then the awful reality that has been building for the last 5 years will be laid bare week in week out - unless he finds someone else (probabaly Jack or RVP) to flog to death to prop this ****e up

  138. Odd Mandy

    Jun 11, 2011, 9:39 #8513

    Our lord Arsene is the only person in the whole wide world who can put things right, just remember that 50 years ago Shankley didn't win any trophies for seven seasons, if people don't believe in AW they should go and support Spurs

  139. Deus Mwale

    Jun 11, 2011, 9:33 #8512

    All you have said is right except the use of racistic language when you refer to french-african players going thru motions. This unpalatable

  140. Gooner

    Jun 11, 2011, 9:31 #8511

    I usually don't like reading negative articles but I feel yours was spot on, I was feeling the same way, the attitudes of some of these players is plain pathetic. I do understand why you feel inclined to blame Wenger for this, and I do agree with you that he is to blame for pretty much everything, I dont think we should sack him. Simply because he made this squad, crap or not, only Wenger understands them, and I genuinely think that we don't have the funds for a complete overhaul, I do believe however that we have more than enough money to spend on several players. This is the first time Wenger has said he'll be very active in the market, lets give him one more year, if we fail again, then it really should be the end.

  141. Oscar

    Jun 11, 2011, 9:27 #8510

    Make no mistake, Samuel Eto won the champions league three time, 2006, 2008, 2010. Not 2 times as you wrote

  142. jack

    Jun 11, 2011, 9:25 #8509

    this basically makes me think we should get rid of everyone except walcott, wilshere, Van Persie and the reserves.We basically need a complete team overhaul if players.I'd like Nasri and clichy to stay but it doesn't seem likely.

  143. Gooner S

    Jun 11, 2011, 9:22 #8508

    "I have written a few articles for the Online Gooner over the past few months, highlighting the complete absence of any fact-based argument for keeping Arsene Wenger in his position. " Yes you have, they all have something in common; they are reptitive and rehash half stories from various blogs/media. Your articles do not exhibit fact - they exhibit your views and opinions, of which you are entitled, but they are not factual on the whole. Most of all your articles are long winded. It is basically the same article rewritten each time. I switched off half way through, so if you did have anything to say of value I missed it. Your articles have no sense of perspective. I have responded to a number of your previous postings and I am not going to bother rewriting them again in response to this version 3 (or 4) of "Wenger must go", "Its all all Wengers fault". The facts are that it is both the players and managements 'fault' for finishing 4th, qualifying for the champions league, being runners up in the CCF and not winning a trophy.

  144. Arsenal Fan (AMG's go and support Spurs)

    Jun 11, 2011, 9:19 #8507

    Arsene Wenger is bigger than any one player at this club. The AMG'S must not be allowed to get their way and drive him out of this club. 15 successive top four finishes which is like a trophy. In Arsene we trust.

  145. vgooner

    Jun 11, 2011, 9:17 #8506

    what a piece......amazingly detailed and explained....really yr this has been the story;......sometimes i do feell helpless

  146. Bobbins

    Jun 11, 2011, 9:14 #8505

    Fantastic piece. I really fear for next season.

  147. simon

    Jun 11, 2011, 9:11 #8504

    Fantastic article. Looks like one more season is left. This summers transfer activities show the writing is on the wall for the present regime.

  148. Sorry

    Jun 11, 2011, 9:11 #8503

    Great article, i dont mean to moan but etoo won 3 champions league trophies. 2 with barca 1 with inter This summer is becoming scary, we really look like we are gonna lose a lot of first team players, the worst part is its not the deadwood!!

  149. Adam

    Jun 11, 2011, 9:10 #8502

    Scraping the barrel to justify a headline.

  150. Rob

    Jun 11, 2011, 9:04 #8501

    Absolutely spot on Don't have time to post much more but this is on the money

  151. rogthegoonerforfortyyears

    Jun 11, 2011, 9:03 #8500

    What can i say,the truth has been spoken. Absolutly brilliant letter Emmanuel.