We Will Judge You In September

The promised busy summer in the transfer market is yet to materialise



We Will Judge You In September

Arsene: Chequebook poised?


"Judge Me In May"… Gooners have had to endure these words from Arsene Wenger for the past five seasons, the latest proclamation echoing into the bottomless cavern that is Arsenal's empty trophy cabinet at the end of yet another season that saw us collapse in dramatic fashion when within touching distance of the Premiership title.

Ivan Gazidis recently announced that things were going to get 'busy' with players going and coming, and yet what have we seen so far... Manure getting in the players they need in order to strengthen the team so as to continue their winning ways, the scousers spending the necessary in order to make the necessary changes if they are to improve and challenge for the top four once again... whilst Wenger appears (as usual) to be sitting on that thing now known as "the dusty unopened Arsenal cheque book", whilst all the competition get on with the business in hand.

Well, no need to wait till next May (2012) to judge Wenger, we can judge him come September, because he must surely be in no doubt whatsoever as to the feelings of Arsenal supporters (not including the JCL's / rosetinters) and that he MUST make and be seen to make significant changes.

If the likes of (*):
Eboue (Diving Clown)
Denilson (Surely he CANNOT be Brazilian)
Bendtner (Well his dad says he's brilliant so he must be)
Squillaci (Who even makes Pascal Cygan look competent)
Vela (Couldn't even make it with the Baggies)
Clichy (So much promise so little achieved)
Arshavin (One of the laziest players ever to wear an Arsenal shirt)
Flappy (Idiot)
Almunia (even Bigger Idiot)
are still on the payroll come September (and let's not forget they're all earning between £35k and £65 a WEEK) AND Wenger has not brought in at least two centre backs, a (holding/defensive) midfielder an out and out striker and an experienced goalkeeper to share the duties with a still very young and inexperienced but hugely promising Szczesny... then we know not only has Wenger NOT listened, but the season ahead is already over... and so we can make our judgement in September without having to endure yet another trophyless season...

The clock is ticking Mr Wenger so get buying and selling... sod it why not just give the crap (*) away...


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  1. Solzhenitsyn from Kislovodsk

    Jun 30, 2011, 7:26 #9280

    Please don't sell Arshavin... You can't buy such class for 16m again... just one more defender - Ivanovic or Alex... catch Abramovic in a sunny mood... one DMC - Diarra or Romaric... and Samuel Eto and pay him his salary....

  2. AFCasap

    Jun 30, 2011, 0:09 #9279

    good piece.....too many wage stealing skivers being trained by an ego maniac who gets upset when other teams don't let his failures play tip tap....we are a laughing stock ...WENGER OUT...HIS TIME WAS UP 3 YEARS AGO

  3. Raskymono

    Jun 29, 2011, 20:54 #9277

    With all due respect to this site (gooner), this lunatic (Yanto) should never be allowed to post the rubbish above on the site again. His facts are wrong, at best misleading, his clueless and do not give anything meaningful to read except just plain disrespectful.

  4. augustine from ghana

    Jun 29, 2011, 13:42 #9268

    TOTALLY agree with you AW shd know by now that his time is up with his experience with the kids we need good and experience players.most players do not want to come to the club becouse the club is not winning any thing.if is management not realizing cash then they have no bussiness being there.AW shd go if he is tired and new person come or i will wage a war for his removal.we tired of playing second fidle to other clubs.

  5. belly

    Jun 29, 2011, 13:39 #9266

    winger should buy Banes to place clichy.juata mata,hulk samba and gari cahill

  6. Boris Vestage

    Jun 29, 2011, 11:34 #9258

    Do something else with your summer other than waiting impatiently for Arsenal to sign and sell players. Maybe get some other interests.

  7. Brigham

    Jun 29, 2011, 9:29 #9254

    Well said Frank and all of those you mentioned at left back were far better than Clichy could ever hope to be. He makes too many mistakes and has never been the same since that Birmingham game a few seasons back. I fear for a long hard season next time around, I really do and will be very happy to eat humble pie.

  8. Frank Abigail

    Jun 29, 2011, 2:32 #9252

    JollyMike - "Clichy is better than 95% of all left backs that ever had an Arsenal shirt on" - Are you for real? In the 40 years I've supported Arsenal I've seen Bob McNab, Sammy Nelson, Kenny Sansom, Higel Winterburn and Ashley Cole grace the left back position. You could even throw in Slyvinho into the mix. Clichy isn't 95% the player any of them were. You Mike are a joke. FACT.

  9. sammy

    Jun 28, 2011, 23:56 #9251

    why should you use those insultive words on arsenal players that. 2 bad of u, i am very sure you are an arsenal fan.

  10. Claude

    Jun 28, 2011, 23:53 #9250

    Does OG, like Arsenal, have an under 17 team? Surely this Yanto fella is in it? All that name calling. Idiot, this idiot that. Some of these guys havent done the business but deserve more respect than that. And if you clear out 9 players, that's 9 to bring in. Suicidal. B52, Deni, Rosicky, Almunia and probably Vela. The rest have a role to play in the squad over 4 competitions. Agree on some things--- 2 CBs, with Djourou back to his natural position as DM backup. Need a defender who puts his head in clearing danger. And I like Chesney, but still feel he's not quite there. Lansbury, and probably Barthley and Frimpong deserve a chance.

  11. Mikey

    Jun 28, 2011, 23:29 #9249

    err bit harsh on clichy and arshavin to be mentioned in the same breath (or sentence) as denilson! Their not even in the same bracket as the others. For me clichy has become a decent full bck and without those mistakes hes on his way. at 25 hes got time behind and ahead of him. Imagine how much better his game could be with a soid defence. As for arshavin I saw him tracking back with great effort this season gone. His stats read better than nasri s if his goal and assists were added together.

  12. Jamie

    Jun 28, 2011, 23:27 #9248

    A brilliant analysis. Think of all the money we could get for selling those terrible players, that clubs will be willing to buy simply because of the club they are coming from. Bendtner values himself at £12 million, and if the reported interested from Bayern Munich is a figure close to that amount, we'd pull off a major coup. From one player. So much potential for good business here.

  13. Jim

    Jun 28, 2011, 22:37 #9246

    JollyMike -Cygan was awful and was one of the worst defenders in the Pl. FACT

  14. Gunner1

    Jun 28, 2011, 21:32 #9244

    Wenger care nothing is earning a lot and that only care about hope nature will do him justice.

  15. Andrew Cohen

    Jun 28, 2011, 20:45 #9243

    1) Even if he wished to have a clearout, which prior to this year, he simply hasn't wanted to, does he have the stamina and backup to actually do the deals ? 2) Players talk, and our good players want away from the annual train wreck. Why should other good players want in? 3) How many of our underperforming players would actually do well if they had a manager punishing failure, rewarding achievement, and responding to the challenges of the league rather than ignoring them ? The manager should be the first name on the clearout list. The incoming manager and his coaching team would offload those who cannot be trained, coached or reformed. There will be no improvement under Mr Wenger, only embarrassment, failure and pain for all of us.

  16. Pam

    Jun 28, 2011, 20:39 #9242

    Wenger pls do us a favour in buying experience player and add to the promising players we had already.

  17. Richie boy

    Jun 28, 2011, 20:06 #9241

    Agree with a lot of what you said although you seem to have made up your mind on Wenger already! As for your list i would add Rosicky and Diaby and take off Ashavin, a great player who is always played out of position, he is not a winger and never has been. Charging up and down the pitch from box to box is not his forte, he should be played central behind the striker but he's never been given the chance!

  18. JM LONDON

    Jun 28, 2011, 19:11 #9240

    You have hit it on the head with that penultimate paragraph. Its what everyone around the arsenal, from the Herbet Chapman to the Coronet have been saying for so, so long. After last seasons final home game and the so called 'lap of appreciation' and various protests that went on around the Arsenal I thought the penny may have finally, actually dropped. Sounds like we are asking a lot, 5 new top drawer players - well they should have been brought in year by year, bit by bit long before we got to this stage. The clubs been very poorly managed. And now we've all got the arsehole - thanks very much.

  19. liveit

    Jun 28, 2011, 18:49 #9239

    As mentioned you can add Diaby who i had high hopes for i am now aware he cant pass, Rosisky who is not the same player after continual injuries, Walcott who isnt really improving at all has the odd burst but is poor and vanishes in games. What does he do on the training field as he till cant cross, pass, shoot, trap and when he does score is always in the same side of the net. Wenger should have been getting rid of players each year now we nearly need a full team

  20. CD

    Jun 28, 2011, 18:00 #9238

    I dont doubt the club will be active eventually in this transfer market, because unless they have been living on planet Zog, the board and Wenger know the current mood of most Gooners would be extremely hostile come September if we have too endure yet another feeble activity window. Having said that I have simply lost all faith in Wenger's judgement anyway, and hence any player arrivals would probably not be of the type required and simply be more clones of what we already have in abundance. Or worse they are the type of players required, but would soon be doctrined into our tippy tappy dont shoot football, hence making them as ineffective as most of our current squad is!! In other words in my view no serious change will happen until we change our manager. Short of Wenger suddenly becoming a master tactician and freshening up his coaching staff, and being prepared to give up some of our supposed "beautiful football" for a more pragmatic approach and generally having a plan B, a plan C and even shock horror a plan D let alone E!! I simply dont see any light at the end of this dark tunnel until Wenger has gone, regardless of who he brings in and who leaves. Call me a pessimist if you like, but that is truly how I feel after 6 years of Wenger's youth/bargain basement policy as he has simply knocked the stuffing out of me, with his inability to change when things are clearly not working.

  21. JMascis666

    Jun 28, 2011, 16:53 #9237

    There are massive problems at the club at the moment mainly brought on by Arsene's stubborness over the past few years. He would rather bury his head in the sand than admit that we have problems (rather like some of our fans). I have no faith in Arsene to get it right next season, everything he did in the past is greatly appreciated by me but he can only dine out everything he achieved prior to 2005 for so long. We are now moving rapidly towards the 2011/12 season we cannot afford to live in the past any further.

  22. Inspector Clueless

    Jun 28, 2011, 15:55 #9235

    its not 1 month since the season ended its effectively 2 months IF you were a manager who was pro active enough you would have been totally clear by end april about what you needed to do and who you needed to get and how much it would cost and who you were going to offload ! its not rocket science its bloody straightforward

  23. Rob

    Jun 28, 2011, 15:33 #9233

    Rosicky should certainly be on that list for departing. Pound for pound, one of Wenger's worst buys. £7 million in transfer fees that much plus in wages and he contributes nowt. Agree with the general tone and content of the article. But in reality we merely tinker with the problem and most of the money spent will be derived player sales and specifically Fabregas's. His departure will in effect leave the Manager's credibility shot.

  24. t-mac

    Jun 28, 2011, 15:18 #9232

    You forgot tomas roSICKy!

  25. Highbury Boy

    Jun 28, 2011, 14:34 #9231

    Totally agree with you but the reason the 9 listed are still with us is that , apart from Clichy who has run down his contract , there is little interest in them,especially with the wages they are on.btw Cygan was bad.

  26. sabret00the

    Jun 28, 2011, 14:20 #9230

    Diaby must go. Diaby epitomises everything that's wrong with the club. There needs to be a limit on how long we're willing to wait for a player to fulfil their promise and players that Wenger seems to like can't be given what's a free ride.

  27. Xnedu

    Jun 28, 2011, 14:11 #9229

    Sorry guys but there's no chance in hell even half of the players on that list will be gotten rid of(by the way Diaby should be on it).Didn't Wenger state recently that Vela wasn't for sale?A player that couldn't make an impact at Wb.The excuse by Anon that Hodgson didn't give him a chance is hogwash.As a Nigerian i watched Wb's matches (cuz of Odewingie)and Vela got ample opportunity to perform but couldn't take them because he's a crappy player.Don't be surprised if one or two players on that list get new contracts.Knowing Wenger's antecedents,this transfer season both in terms of signings and departures will leave most fans depressed and disappointed. If Arsenal is really to move forward our next piece of transfer business should be getting a new coach.Any chance of that?

  28. Inspector Clouseau runs our club

    Jun 28, 2011, 13:55 #9227

    sorry was late on today - was just counting my pennies to see if i could afford yet another new Arsenal Kit and give more money to our very poor shareholders board and manager. Perry Groves said it yesterday, AW is running a company since 2004 and not totally focused on players, winning matches, trophies and i for one am sick of it

  29. Brigham

    Jun 28, 2011, 13:41 #9226

    @Dare You, judging by your comments, I assume you were more than happy to watch such dynamic players as - Gus Caesar, David Hillier, Jimmy Carter, Igo Stepanovs, Ian Selley and Senderos to name but a few. As usual, you, just like the other sheep who have more than likely being a gooner for the last 12 years tell the author he is a glory hunter. He, like most of us who have been around a long time are sick and tired of our club becoming a laughing stock of late. You are the one who is clueless.

  30. Kev G

    Jun 28, 2011, 13:37 #9225

    season has only finished for one month and already you are bleating about he hasn't made transfers yet. Come back and bleat on Sep 1st. I imagine you'll do that amyway has he wouldn't have made the "right" signings in your eyes. They'll either be too young, too short, no PL experience, no CL experience.... whatever he does people will criticise

  31. Never Outgunned

    Jun 28, 2011, 13:34 #9224

    Yanto - Criticism of Arsene Wenger is your right, judging by current events a valid right. An articulate criticism however is your responsibility, instead of the cliche ridden rubbish you've served up. Again, can't stuff like this be put on the forum instead of passed off as 'articles'?

  32. Odd Mandy

    Jun 28, 2011, 13:31 #9223

    People are very quick to forget the good things AW did 7-8 years ago and should all go and support another team if they don't have blind faith in him.He has lovely hair and I will remind you all that Big Ron Knee was given 10 years to get things right at Neasden Athletic before he was sacked and I did know a pointless fact about Bill Shankley but i've forgotten it

  33. DANLUVSAFC

    Jun 28, 2011, 13:23 #9222

    Im a season ticket holder and have been for the past 16 years not to mention a regular since 1983 on general admission and I lost my faith in Wenger a while ago.We act like one of the smaller clubs in Europe when it comes to transfer dealings and im not very confident that we will bring in whats needed this summer.The pressure is building on Wenger and the board day by day and now if we dont sign anyone or should i say people of quality and experience(not the usual unknown french/african cheap options) then we know Gazidis was lying aswell.All it will take is a few bad results at the beginning of the season to see things like the black scarf march resurface and things will get a lot nastier.I thank Wenger for all he has done at this great club but unfortunately believe he has become too stubborn and naive to ever take this club to the great heights he once did.

  34. Chris

    Jun 28, 2011, 13:09 #9221

    Ye gods you don't sound like a fan. I always thought being a supporter meant just that, you support you team. Or are you bigger than the club?? If you are a normal "onlinegooner" arsenal fan then I am ashamed at how arsenals supporters are. I bet you lot think your fans because you buy the new top every year. Ha If you seem to hate arsenal so much like you seem to, just saying a love arsenal doesn't really make you a supporter, the clue is in the word, I will let you figure that one out. I bet most of these players you have insulted actually care more about arsenal than you.

  35. Martyn

    Jun 28, 2011, 12:32 #9220

    Oops! You missed out Diaby (play one match and injured for the next 6 weeks) in the clear-out list. Yes, it is all getting a bit frustrating on the transfer front but we just hope that behind the secretive workings of the Arsenal state there is some serious wheeling and dealing going on. If not, I agree that judgement day will be sooner rather than later when the season gets going.

  36. Richard Ansell

    Jun 28, 2011, 12:17 #9219

    With you all the way on this. I have resigned myself to another year (at least) of Wenger, but if the changes you mention have not been actioned, Arsenal can forget my support next season because I have had enough. I will have to go in to some sort of football hibernation until sanity prevails again at my club and winning trophies is once again a priority, not just lining shareholders pockets as it seems to be at the moment.

  37. Spectrum

    Jun 28, 2011, 11:55 #9218

    This blog, "Arsenal Truth", and "Le Grove" are the few places where we can find concise, accurate and candid views on what is really wrong with our club. It's pleasing to see the facts revealed as they actually are. I really enjoy reading them all . Well done for speaking out and telling it like it is. "In Arsene we rust."

  38. Matt

    Jun 28, 2011, 11:54 #9217

    I agree with the sentiment of the article, as I believe our season will be decided before it's even begun this year. However I don't think it's necessary to get 2 CB's, one of Samba/Cahill will do the job. Yes we need another holding/combative midfielder, yes we need a striker, but I also believe we need more cover on the flanks. We have Nasri (who may be going), Walcott, Arshavin (also may be going) and who else? We need at least one more player there, most probably Gervinho who I think will be a good signing.

  39. Mark

    Jun 28, 2011, 11:45 #9216

    wenger's behaviour since close season has continued on from the last season i.e. total disdain for the fans and for anyone in football who dares to suggest what Arsenal needs. he likes Arsenal to stand to 1 side and not be part of EPL day to day. classive french elitist crap - the man doesnt understand or want to understand what it is to run our club or be in the EPL. Read Perry Groves comments yesterday - spot on !

  40. John

    Jun 28, 2011, 11:32 #9215

    Shame you feel the need to be so disrespectful about arsenal players.

  41. Anon

    Jun 28, 2011, 11:26 #9214

    All you do is moan. Flappy isn't an idiot he's done well this season. Vela didn't get a chance with Hodgson. Squillaci isn't a bad fourth/fifth choice defender. Bendtner can do a job when played down the centre. Clichy can be a liability, although he was out for quite some time. Arshavin did improve towards the end of the season. Agree with the rest.

  42. sparksy

    Jun 28, 2011, 11:21 #9213

    We are all wondering the same things. Its now the end of June and all we have bought is one for the future. This is the same team that collapsed again as we all know last season. But not only have we not bought anyone, the dross that we need to clear out is still sitting pretty. So have we again been fed a line about "a busy summer". And we also have to ask the question of whether Gazidis is really up to the job of CE?????

  43. Coupland101

    Jun 28, 2011, 11:16 #9212

    I do agree with some of your comments. However, I think we still stick with Arshavin as he was not used properly throughout the year. He is an imapct player. Vela needs to be given an opportunity in the team. Fabianski was actually very good last season before his injury. The rest i agree are rubbish, but I can't see other than Denilson, Bendtner, Clichy, Nasri and Fabregas going. If these all go we will have over 100 million to spend. Also I think the delay announcing signings is due to the fact that you can not sign players outside of the UK until the 1st July.

  44. Arsene is a Fraudster

    Jun 28, 2011, 11:14 #9211

    Apparently according to reports our deity has turned down £10m for Diaby from a Turkish club. If true, a real kick in the teeth. Fella has lost it.

  45. Rick

    Jun 28, 2011, 11:01 #9210

    wow! a thoughtful and constructive criticism!!! couldn't find a better word than idiot?!! my my...

  46. Dare You

    Jun 28, 2011, 10:57 #9209

    Yantoo, no need to wait till September mate, "fans" like you have already been judged. And you just aint up to the task. You can go now, we dont need fair weather glory hunters at the Arsenal. Time for you to pack up your armchair, Sky Dish, tabloid subscription and Talksh*te radio and jog on. That list of players you want rid of is the stuff of clueless doomers. You are a brain dead sheep.

  47. JollyMike

    Jun 28, 2011, 10:55 #9208

    You are right in the part about selling and buying. Get the people in so that pre-season will be better and the new players may blend in until the start of the season. I don't like the way you talk about the Arsenal players. Calling Flap an idiot is just what an idiot does. Pascal Cygan wasn't that bad. Arshavin is not a work horse, but you just insult people. Clichy is better than 95 % of all left backs that ever had an Arsenal shirt on. And I bet this comment won't be posted because last time I wrote something that wasn't pro your view it din't get posted. Be supportive for once. Doomer!

  48. Wolfgang

    Jun 28, 2011, 10:54 #9207

    The waiting is over. No more nato( talk only ,no action). This coming season will,imho,be the defining season. Either Wenger gets it right meaning winning games and trophies and not pretty soccer. Fans come to see a winning team. They don't wannt to see a team with 98% possession and ten shotss at goal to lose to team with one shot at goal and 0.9 % possession.

  49. lance (south africa)

    Jun 28, 2011, 10:51 #9206

    totally agree with you. would also like to add diaby to that list.