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In Wenger We Rust

Chamakh: Can we rely on him if RVP gets crocked again?


First thing's first: all frustrated fans should watch this video.

The changes Arsenal have needed to make this summer through the transfer market have been obvious to both fans and pundits alike. But when Wenger claimed he would be 'very active' during this window I found it difficult to get excited. I suspected, as we will probably see, that he would target the two most apparent areas for concern - the need for a central defender and forward – partners for Vermaelen and Robin Van Persie respectively. In so doing however, I couldn't imagine him spending much or going much further beyond those areas. The implication is that his philosophy will remain fundamentally operational, and you know what that means...

The club's most prominent issue regards the potential moves of Nasri and Fabregas. You may have been as incredulous as myself when you heard Wenger say he'd let Nasri's contract run down - this would be equivalent to paying £20 million for a one year deal involving (as good as) a publicly unenthusiastic player. I can only think that Wenger could wish in stating this to put rival clubs off bidding thereby allowing greater bargaining power over the issue of wages, or he wishes to gamble on us winning a trophy this year and in so doing convince Nasri (and perhaps Fabregas) to stay.

The latter option would be poorly conceived however. With only minor squad changes the onus would fall largely on two despondent players. Would it even matter if we lost Nasri now? He showed six months of impressive form from the beginning of last season, but has rarely excelled in the big games. Personally I'd prefer a willing replacement.

There is an almost unanimous desire amongst fans to see the sale of the deadwood: Denilson, Bendtner, Arshavin, Eboue, Vela, Diaby, Squillaci, Almunia and Rosicky. Bringing in the likes of: Baines, Hazard, Mata, Cahill, Samba and a back up for Shezzers. As many have noted however, we can't sell the deadwood easily or at all because their wages are ill-founded to say the least.

So what is to be done? Clearly Gervinho has the potential to be successful. He has good pace, skill and positioning which will help especially in those matches where teams park the bus in their third of the pitch. But given how injury-prone Robin van Persie is, I think it would be beneficial to buy a quality striker based on a calculation where he does not feature. We can't rely on Gervinho and Chamakh to win us trophies if Van Persie picks up a lengthy injury. Therefore, a replacement worth £15-20 million should be brought in (Lukaku? Rodallega?)

Clearly Fabregas is exceptional, but he could be replaced with a central midfielder worth roughly £30 million (Melo? Hamsik?) and swapped for Maxwell. The following plan could be feasible: sell Fabregas [£35m], Nasri [£20m], Bendtner [£9m], Vela [£6m], Clichy [£7m] and buy Maxwell [free], Gary Cahill [£18m], Gervinho [£11m], Central Midfielder [£30m], Striker [£15-20m] and Mata [21m]

The obvious flaw here is that the wage bill would swell substantially. We could however sell some of the deadwood at heavily-reduced prices and loan the remainder without contract-renewal to mitigate the costs. I appreciate that Wenger has had to stick to a long term financial plan but you have to spend to make money and will always have deficiencies in teams compiled 'on the cheap' (relatively speaking), which have to be remedied with the signing of proven players.

I've left out some details and issues here, but I believe the fundamental point is that major change is required to remain a top side. The 'Elephant in the Room' for me is that United, City and Chelsea have funds and squads easily capable of bettering us in all competitions; while Spurs, who have shown themselves to be stronger in head-to-heads against us (it gashes me to say it), look set to retain their squad and improve. Liverpool would have finished second in the league based on Kenny Dalglish's results, and they have added to their squad this summer. We however appear to have made little progress and I'm guessing we'll finish sixth this season.

On the bright side, it was nice to see Carl Jenkinson paying homage to Lee Dixon last weekend - thanks again Arsene!


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  1. Any old Iron

    Jul 29, 2011, 21:42 #10427

    Yeah Uba and Sid. If we wanna in Arsene we bust, crust, dust, gust, rust! And you can in Arsene we lust, must, trust! Deal? Done. Now ...k .f.!

  2. Griffdaz

    Jul 29, 2011, 19:23 #10424

    Great post. It's pathetic how FANS who spend there hard earned cash, travel the length of the country to support the team get slated when they criticise AW. There are changes to be made yes but I am sick of travelling to the likes of Wigan and watch players who do not give their all. The fancy footy with nobody prepared to shoot outside the box. What the he'll does AW say or do at half time when he should be kicking boots or throwing pizzas around. He HAS been one of the greatest managers of all time but I personally think it's make or break this season. Since when have we been a city feeder club. 55 million for 2 players who's heart and sole are not in it seems a no brained for me. I'm no manager just as AW is no engineer.

  3. IN ARSEN WE TRUST

    Jul 28, 2011, 21:37 #10393

    WITH YOUR PLAN YOU WILL CRASH ANY FOOTBALL MANAGER GAME LMAO

  4. Old School

    Jul 28, 2011, 10:51 #10365

    Rick the Gooner-as DB10 was one of the most clean living footballers of his generation who looked after himself,can you tell me HOW exactly Wenger prolonged his career?

  5. Alex

    Jul 28, 2011, 10:34 #10363

    Have faith! As long we believe we will make it. Let's sacrifice a football for the Gods and thank them for their football deity Wenger! If we believe hard enough everything is gonna be alright. I'll have faith in Wenger thy god. yadda yadda....

  6. Lord Froth

    Jul 28, 2011, 10:17 #10362

    Why do some of you think it would be a good thing to drop out of the top 4? You want to drop out of the top 4 to get rid of the manager and replace him with a manager that can get Arsenal back into the top 4? That really makes sense…NOT! If Arsenal drop out of the top 4 that already contains Man U and money bags Chelsea and Man City and possibly Liverpool, who are also a massive club, do you really think that Arsenal, who are already finding it hard to hold onto their best players and unable to attract other top players because others can offer bigger wages and Champions League football and then also having lost the Champions League revenue, would be in a position to magically re-enter the Champions League and win everything just because they are called Arsenal? Don’t make me laugh. Villa and Forest were European cup winners and where are they now? It’s a slippery slope my friends. I too am not delighted by the events of recent seasons but some of you are making out like Arsenal is suddenly the world’s worst team. Last season they beat Chelsea, Man U, Man City and Barcelona. There is still time for Arsenal to make acquisitions before the end of the transfer window. Most of the clubs have not finished their transfer business. I actually think that no football and miserable summer weather are making some of you go crazy. You keep reading all the gossip and getting wound up. Just relax, there is nothing any of us can do about it because we don’t own or run the club. Just have a beer and a smile and exercise some patience and save the vitriol for Chelsea and the Mancs, not our own team.

  7. Lone Gunner from Malaya

    Jul 28, 2011, 7:21 #10361

    With great power come great responsibility. For Mr Wenger, its great power with greater ego. Do you think he care **** of what been write here? If the emirates continue to get full attend and rakes millions, then he'll earn his salary already...

  8. DB

    Jul 27, 2011, 23:29 #10360

    Bendtner 9 million! We'll be lucky.

  9. GoonerRon

    Jul 27, 2011, 22:57 #10359

    I'm not sure when it happened but at some point in the past 5-10 years some supporters have become obsessed with how much money we spend and the value of players. You say 'therefore, a replacement worth £15-20 million should be brought in (Lukaku? Rodallega?).' Why do they have to cost that amount of money? I actually couldn't give a toss how much the players cost, so long as we bring in the right players that improve the team / squad in the areas that need strengthening. I'm also sick and tired of hearing people bash Wenger for not buying enough players in the summer, whilst in the same breath citing Tottenham and Chelsea as teams that 'will improve.' As far as I can see neither team have bought any players of note yet and Chelsea's ageing squad is a year older. You can't have it both ways. More generally speaking though, the negativity on here is ridiculous. People hoping for a finish outside of the top 4 to get Wenger sacked is beyond me - why not just get behind the team through thick and thin?

  10. tpm

    Jul 27, 2011, 22:41 #10358

    M66RKK, u buffoon you contradict yourself re others opinions on chamakh with ur opinion on dzeko who had even less time to adapt. ppp, no ones saying out spen these teams, just spend what we have available and do what we can to be the best we can, which is not happening currently. typical akb/jcl bending of the truth and lies about what most fans want.

  11. ando

    Jul 27, 2011, 20:13 #10356

    he (jenkinson) gave the keeper no chance-lol although i have to say that one of my friends went to the game and he said he was a sound prospect apart from the og unfortunately though the obvious afc faults have still not been addressed-taxi for wenger

  12. BERGKAMP10

    Jul 27, 2011, 19:40 #10354

    I would say Cesc is a goner, and Nasri will be forced to stay. I would actually prefer AA23 to play central, I feel he be much better in this position. Not perfect for sure, but certainly more involved and he WILL shoot as well. We really need to offload 4/5 of the 'deadwood' players. Then we could hopefully get - Samba, Baines, alt L/B, plus one other player for C/M perhaps? I consider this will be the best we can hope for with AW!!!

  13. jgunz

    Jul 27, 2011, 19:23 #10352

    the problem is the board claim that the stadium was to increase our abillity to compete financially with manu and chelsea. but the cold hard facts are that the extra money they are getting from the stadium has not been invested in the team transfers and salarys have not increased to manchesters level or chelsea's level we still have not paid 20or 20+ million for one player. I would like to see if we can copy the braca model of changing ownership to the fans as wenger refuses to listen to his fans or his detractors so thier needs to be a person at the club who can address the same issue that has been going one for four years.

  14. Rickthegooner

    Jul 27, 2011, 18:09 #10350

    Ron yes mate point taken. DB10 was a superstar when Wenger arrived. He is credited for prolonging his carea. But I agree crediting Wenger with that success was not correct.

  15. chrisy boy

    Jul 27, 2011, 18:07 #10349

    just been told wenger will not be signing christopher samba as he does not have a great first touch, even though our chief scout steve rowley has given samba the thumbs up ! ! ! Never mind we still have squillaci and djourou. You are a joke wenger

  16. Markus Neacey

    Jul 27, 2011, 17:55 #10348

    What little faith you show. Arsenal would finish top 3 even with Bendtner up front. Whatever Spurs, Man C or Liverpool do we are 10 pts better than them any day. City only finished 3rd because the players lost all interest after the Barcelona defeat. What we have to do is sell Nasri now!!! And good riddance to him!

  17. White Widow

    Jul 27, 2011, 17:49 #10346

    Congratulations - This is the worse piece of garbage I have read this summer. Melo to replace Cesc? Jajajajajajajajaja

  18. Ron

    Jul 27, 2011, 17:09 #10343

    Rick the Gooner Appreciate your points but Wenger didnt sign Dennis Bergkamp.

  19. GaryFootscrayAustralia

    Jul 27, 2011, 16:27 #10341

    Check the amount of polish Chamakh's put in his fauxhawk!If only he polished his shooting boots like that then he'd blahblahblah etc. etc.

  20. Whinger_OUT_NOW

    Jul 27, 2011, 16:05 #10340

    M66RKK, mate you're an idiot. You start your post by saying how can someone write off Chamkrap after one season, yet there you are in the next line critisizing Dzeko for his apparent lack of goals and he only came to England in Jan. Way to go, proving yourself to be the usual AKB kind of hypocrite.

  21. Gee

    Jul 27, 2011, 15:51 #10339

    PPP - it is more the frustration that we pay the highest ticket prices in world football have a very reasonable pot of money to spend yet do the absolute minimum and make a profit every transfer window. and yet after all this we do not deliver a great product on the pitch. Even the famed easy on the eye football is actually becoming rather slow and tedious. Don't get me wrong if I wasn't paying £1k+ to watch it I wouldn't be nearly as hacked off, but it's the fact that we know we have the resources to do better and don't becuase the manager continually puts faith in players that are totally unproven in the pressure cauldron. I agree they need to get experience from somewhere but the youngsters need to be drip fed in to a team that has reasonable experience in it. Wenger keeps citing the average of the squad that has time to improve. But by my rather average maths the average squad age will be alot younger next term. As we have the exits of clichy, Almunia, eboue and Bendtner. Yet the arrivals of Jenkinson, Gervinho. This in my opinion gives the ready made excuse for wenger to use again. We are getting younger every single year. You need experienced heads for youngsters to blend with as well. My bet is that Mceachren at Chelsea ends up a a better player than alot of what we have purely becuase has lamps, terry, essien, drogba around him to learn gleen the winning mentality from

  22. Dewyse

    Jul 27, 2011, 15:36 #10338

    Sorry for saying this,wenger should be replace by pat rice.man u that won last season leaque have spent more than £45m buying player.is wenger is old and the management is okay with all he does.last season we are in 2nd position later finish 4th is it ashame on our side.wenger promises to be active during transfer market,since the transfer open out of 100 player we bid for,gervinho & jerkinson is on our list.i don't blame nasri,the should go because wenger does need trophy he only want first 4 which is not posible this season.management should do something to make us proud not this mouth mouth buying of our dear coach.Also sell fabregas his mind is not more with us and let nasri,ramsy,arshvin plays his role because we no you will not buy a replacement.wenger why u treating we fans dis way?.Are we going another trophyless dis coming season?why do u always after player under 17,18,19 to play for us ?pls spend.Long life ARSENAL,long life wenger.

  23. Rickthegooner

    Jul 27, 2011, 15:31 #10337

    West Stand Gooner Nobody says that you can't have a different opinion. It seems to me that it is the author of this tripe that is belittling Wenger's opinion !!!! As for paying for your season ticket, I can't see anyone holding a gun to your head. If you really feel like you do, then don't renew !!!!!! What's the point of you turning up and not enjoying it !!!!! There's a word for people like you who enjoy having misery heaped upon themselves !!!! Spuds !!! Perhaps you could get your thrills down the lane mate !!!

  24. Arsene is a Fraudster

    Jul 27, 2011, 14:56 #10335

    Someone give Sid a massage or a stressball or something, fella needs to chill out. Getting all angry over an internet opinion piece. Dont like it fella, dont read it.

  25. Dan h

    Jul 27, 2011, 14:43 #10334

    It's true the window is still open but the advantage is to get your business done early on signings just to settle them into the squad.We left it late last year on signing a second cb & ended up wasting money on Squillaci when we were crying out for a PL experienced cb as cover.If it comes across as questioning the manager so be it as we have the resources to buy good quality players but why always choose the cheaper option it just doesn't work out.Even if Cesc does go it makes no sense to keep Nasri self sustaining club is correct to throw away £20m criminal.

  26. Ron

    Jul 27, 2011, 14:23 #10333

    The pic of Chamakh sums the modern Arsenal and Wenger. Physically weak, weak willed and lightweight and not really knowing what hes doing or the direction hes supposed to be going in to do it. Ive seen many Saturday and some Sunday league players shoot harder, head more strongly and hold off a defender better than he can. Lord knows where Wenger dug him up from, but ever likely he cost ziltch. Hes useless.

  27. che grimandi

    Jul 27, 2011, 14:20 #10331

    "Therefore, a replacement worth £15-20 million should be brought in (Lukaku? Rodallega?)" I don't wish to verbally bash a fellow gooner, but are you some kind of retard? Rodallega worth £20 million & good enough to play for us? Jesus wept man.....

  28. Matt

    Jul 27, 2011, 13:42 #10328

    Nasri has to go you cant have a player without his heart in it playing for you other clubs including us have tried it and it doesn't work.Fans get the hump because we are paying the highest ticket prices in Europe and have had another 6.5% added on to that and where is the money going.Who thinks we need a CB? Everybody does.Diaby,Eboue,Denilson etc have been letting us down for years so yes lets get rid and try something else cant believe people think there is something wrong in that.

  29. West Stand gooner

    Jul 27, 2011, 13:34 #10327

    Dont know why some people get so upset at someone elses opinion! I wish the same passion would be shown at the emirates. The reality is the big excitement for my £1K plus this season is likely to be "will we manage to finish 4th". As a kid I dont remember dreaming about scoring the winner to come 4th.

  30. Mark R

    Jul 27, 2011, 13:22 #10326

    Have Arsene gone on the propaganda offensive or something? Why suddenly so many pro-Wenger comments in a world where the man has lost so much of his support? I can only assume these guys are sitting in a room, on Arsene's payroll, trawling websites to leave pro-Wenger comments. Seems quite fishy......

  31. Goonerdad

    Jul 27, 2011, 13:16 #10325

    If only it was oh so simple!! Sell him, buy him, sell him, buy him etc etc etc.........the season has not even started, the transfer window not closed and the doom merchants are sounding off!

  32. ppp

    Jul 27, 2011, 13:07 #10324

    this is all a bit fickle - just because we aren't spending zillions and winning everything you get all up in arms!! We need to do better but its hardly the end of the world. We just don't have the billions of chelsea city and united. We aren't gonna spend like them or barca or madrid so stop wishing we were! Since when did we ever outspend our rivals anyway? The team needs the fans to back them this coming season and stop all the moaning about money. You're like children.

  33. Theo Jensen

    Jul 27, 2011, 13:02 #10322

    Where do i begin? Firstly I think Wenger's a great manager but that he is too stubborn when it comes to accepting the need to adjust his philosophy. Secondly, I haven't played fifa or manager games ever. Thirdly, I'm not a big fan of Melo I was just prompting some discussion (note the question marks). Fourthly you can look at articles and check with virtually all good pundits and see similar suggestions/criticisms to the ones I've made- as indeed have all disillusioned fans. We claimed one out of a possible 6 points from spurs last year and liverpool's match against Hull was a friendly ffs. Sorry so many of you dislike my work i really was just making some suggestions, rather than JUST criticising from the sidelines- i`m trying to be realistic rather than negative here- glad some of you enjoyed it in any case.

  34. Dave

    Jul 27, 2011, 12:54 #10321

    How on earth some Gooners are 'moaning' about your piece says it all about how they follow Arsenal. Surely everyone and anyone (and I even include supporters of other teams) can see that we are a sinking ship, our best players want to leave, no quality coming in, a manager bereft of ideas etc. etc. I agree with 'The End' that it is only going to take an outside top 4 finish to finally get rid of Wenger and co. and part of me actually wants this to happen so that we can build a team to be proud of for the club that we love. In Wenger we Rust

  35. Lucas

    Jul 27, 2011, 12:54 #10320

    I think Mata should be a top target for Wenger, but I doubt Valencia will let him go for just 21 million. His buy-out clause is 20, but Valencia are surely looking for a bit more...

  36. Mark

    Jul 27, 2011, 12:52 #10319

    i think its now a disaster and just a PR exercise if Cesc remains with us after all we have gone thru close season. he hasnt trained properly hes not focused but hes held to ransom by a club that has lost its way and by a manager desperate to announce some good news to the fans. i predict if he stays he will simply not perform anywhere near to his best for all of the obvious reasons and the club not him will be to blame

  37. N16 Gooner

    Jul 27, 2011, 12:47 #10318

    Uba and Sid if you don't like it don't read it. Truth hurts doesn't it.

  38. Gee

    Jul 27, 2011, 12:45 #10317

    Wenger rarely buys 2 or more players per season. Sure Clichy, JET & denilson (loan) have gone with Bendtner, Almunia and Eboue likely to follow. Absolutely no chance will he get rid of Rosicky or Arshavin. The squad has some major gaps appearing. Selling Clichy and not replacing and not yet buying a top class CB is worrying to say the least. In terms of midfield losing Cesc and Nasri would be a major blow and if he doesn't buy top drawer players (Schweinstiger) to replace them then it is unfair to rely on Ramsey & Wilshere entirely. Up front again is a major cause for concern. VP can not play 30 league games a season and I do not personally think that Chamakh and Vela is suitable cover, whilst they do have their own merits, they are nowhere near as clinical or effective as VP. At present the squad looks incredibly bare to me in midfield and up front. At least at the back we have quantity (2 players in every position) even if we do not have the quality

  39. Omglol

    Jul 27, 2011, 12:31 #10316

    Stop playing football manager pls, and get back in reality. This type of blogging become perfect trojan horses to annoy arsenal fan base. onlinegooner realy hit rock bottom.

  40. shakezilla

    Jul 27, 2011, 12:23 #10315

    are u kidding me? does every Gooner now think that they are a general manager? sure we need more depth but wholes-aling our team for short-term replacements would surely set us back a lot farther than trying to make the most of what we have.

  41. Richard Ansell

    Jul 27, 2011, 12:15 #10314

    You can see what needs to be done, so can I and thousands of other disallusioned Gooners. The trouble is the people that matter either can't or don't want to. How we have gone from 'the invincibles' to this state of affairs only Wenger and the Board can answer.

  42. Abbz

    Jul 27, 2011, 11:59 #10313

    Sorry, stopped payin attention ater you mentioned Melo as a 30mil replacement for Cesc. Aside from City (inevitable) who has really strengthend this transffer window? United - two kids and Ashley Youn will not seal the gap Scholes, Van De Sar and Neville have left. Chelsea - No news as yet, however the elderly team have all aged another year. Liverpool - "quality" purchases with Downing and Henderson..... And the ****????? From here forth I will use my limited reading time on somebody less doom and gloom. I bid you farewell.

  43. Rickthegooner

    Jul 27, 2011, 11:57 #10312

    I share your point about the "deadwood" they are a drain on the clubs finances, with their, lets call them "generous" wages !!!! They may well prove difficult to shift. I am not sue about the Samir point though. I feel that Wenger has no choice but to hang on to him. Can you imagine the fans backlash if we really did loose both him and Cesc in the same window. The season ticket waiting list has apparently vanished in one season !!! That shows you how loyal some Gooners really are!!!!!! We are not party to the deals that Samir and Wenger may be hatching. Maybe he has made a gentlemans agreement to re-sign if we we win something, maybe not. I feel the reason Arsenal are so desperate to hang on to him is to quell the doom and gloom merchants ( like yourself ) . We had this " one step forward, two back " situation when Helb and Flamini left. It took us a while to regain the ground we had lost to the others top four clubs. I hate to admit it, but despite being the worlds 7th richest sporting franchise, with only Man Utd and Real Madrid joining us in the top 10, we have never been a "BIG" club. We have never bought world superstars. We have always developed talent. Even DB10 and TH14 were relative failures at their previous clubs !!!!! They were therefore Wenger bargins, not the finished article. It seems to me you read the papers and you turn green with envy at clubs like Chelsea and Man City as they buy players they don't need at inflated wages. You see Liverpool mortgaging their souls to attract players, in a futile attempt to get instant results. Money they maybe should be investing in their new stadium, so that they can generate more income and compete in real terms. These clubs cannot keep "putting the bill on their credit cards" forever !! I am not saying Wenger is right. God knows he sucks the joy out of supporting Arsenal. I AM sure things are not as bad as you and your nasty litte rag ALWAYS seem to paint them. Why can't you try and be positive about anything !!!! The window is not shut and you know diddlesh*t about who is coming and going !!!! So why don't you just accept that the Arsenal Board value Wengers opinion and not yours !!!!!

  44. anthony

    Jul 27, 2011, 11:49 #10311

    so you saying wenger was wrong to bring in carl jenkinson?

  45. CD

    Jul 27, 2011, 11:47 #10310

    The video on You Tube made me laugh my socks off, also watch the one where we draw 4-4 with Newcastle, hilarious. You have to laugh at our situation or else you would cry and you have certainly brightened my day with this You Tube link. Back to the real world and I agree with your post Theo, as "the elephant in the room" does indeed get missed by many of the still loyal Wengerites.

  46. M66RKK

    Jul 27, 2011, 11:32 #10309

    Have so say what a waste of time this is. Honestly how can you write off a player like Chamakh after 1 season. Spending big on players is not always the answer, look at Dzeko at Citeh, scored a bucket load of goals in the German League and managed nothing in the Premier League, wont even mention Torres for £50m. When Drogba arrived at Chelsea he looked like a massive waste of space but now look at him, he had time to adapt. The problem is "fans" never want to support the players we have and get on their backs when they may have a bad game or two, it takes players time to adapt to the Premier League. Its all well and good saying buy this player and that player but in reality there is no guarantee the player will be a success and then Wenger will be critised for spending loads of money on a donkey. You mention Melo - incase you didnt notice he couldnt even get in the Juventus team and was left out of their squad so has now moved to the Turkish League. You also mention Gary Cahill - the same Gary Cahill who got ripped to peices in the FA Cup against Stoke. There is no point playing Fantasy Manager based on the stats on FIFA 11... "we should get Hamsik he is rated at 82 on FIFA - he must be good!" I agree we have problems, which Prem team doesnt?....however all this doom & gloom etc is a bit much - the season hasnt even started. People saying we wont finish in the top 4 blah blah blah, we have had this prediction for the last couple of years its never come true. I would suggest supporting the players we already have such as Kos and Gibbs, they need our support especially making the step up to their Arsenal careers - football is all about confidence and they dont wanna see their own fans writing them off already.

  47. Kevin

    Jul 27, 2011, 11:28 #10308

    Melo? A DM who won worst player of the year to replace cesc??? You utter mong.

  48. Micky

    Jul 27, 2011, 11:18 #10307

    It always seems simple on paper doesn't it?

  49. Sid

    Jul 27, 2011, 11:11 #10306

    The absolute disrespect fickle, spoilt whiney "fans" show Wenger is disgusting. I dont even regard myself as one of those Gooners who believe the man does no wrong. I go home and away and have left many stadiums cussing him and the players for yet another p*ss poor performance. Yet the bile and whiney putbursts I have had the misfortune of reading on here make me puke. You really embarrass the hell out of me more than WEnger. You trot out the same tabloid tosh and pass it off as facts, you think he is doing nothing because we havent signed a defender? You think the transfer window is shut? Give it a rest with your constant whinging, have you no shame, or perspective? I used to love the Gooner, not any more, its become a beacon for mean spirited brats. You are the disgrace, make me sick

  50. Uba

    Jul 27, 2011, 11:03 #10305

    It's unnecessary to be overly negative about Arsenal like you are. It hinges on pathetic. Just because 2 out of the 11 players who beat Barcelona are leaving, we are in crisis??? Stop upping other average teams like Liverpool and Spurs because they is no way they are better than us. Pool lost to hull city 3-0 playing all their new signings so shut it if you have nothing productive to say about Arsene. I'm tired of you people. Such arrogant pricks who act like they are in the know. You couldn't run a football club. It's easier to criticize from the outside isn't it?

  51. The end

    Jul 27, 2011, 11:02 #10304

    It's sad, but also a good thing. Eventually we'll fall out the top 4, the cash cow will be gone. Wenger (sadly but its got to the stage it has to happen) will be sacked and we can all move on. Hopefully with a football club that feels English again, with some English players that actually give a **** about the club.

  52. The Elk

    Jul 27, 2011, 11:02 #10303

    I think one of Fab or Sammy is gonna go, more likely Fab and Wenger is holding out for the money. Situation not drastic atm bringing in 5 or 6 new players is risky as it takes time to settle and gel. we need one more midfielder a centre-half anf a left back to replace Clichy. Arshavin's a quality player worth keeping and could be the perfect replacement for Fabregas behind the frontman, he prefers to play there, and when he is in form there are few better in that position, Gervihno could easily fill Nasri's or Fab's boots if necessary, I think Wengers waiting for the 40 mill for Fab before making a move but purchasing Baines, Cahill and Parker will give us the beating English Heart Arsenal need.