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20 September, 2011 10:00 21 comments
The tipping point

Wenger: Relegation form

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He has to go... no more excuses... no more hoping he has a cunning plan... no more pretending it hasn't happened... no more last chances. Wenger is finished and every week he stays at the club, we are slipping further and further behind the likes of ManUre, Citeh and the Chavs and we should really be practical and start showing an interest in Wolves, QPR and Wigan's results.

If he won’t walk... carry him out kicking and screaming... and please, people: don't fall into the trap of ‘there's nobody else who can do the job’... or ‘this is a transitional season so give him time’. Cobblers... we're in a transitional decade, not season, under Mr Vanity Project and we're getting worse.

Under his stewardship, we're in relegation form for the last 20 matches... we are The Arsenal and, even if we didn't have a replacement lined up, we would have a queue a mile long around the stadium applying for the job... you never know folks, we may get a manager who doesn't buy defenders from the French second division or - perish the thought - a manager who doesn't insist on playing attacking midfielders and centre-forwards as wingers... enough already... we all know how things are going to pan out.

I'm pretty sure that even Wenger's staunchest supporters have had enough of this crap being dished up... I'm sure I'll get the usual comments from the hard of thinking like... ‘go and support the spuds’... or ‘your type make me sick; just blindly support the club’. Well wake up and smell the coffee... he used to be good but now he's s**t... face the truth... the worst defeat for 115 years... and stuffed by the bottom team in the league whose supporters had just been on a protest march... well, I suppose my rant has arrived at this question... how do we get rid of Wenger?

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  1. Hardcore Wenger

    Sep 21, 2011, 16:42 #13162

    AW is an effing genius and he does it his way. That's why he's so successful. The last we should do is to pressure him to change. He has to a degree by critisizing his team which has never done before. Let him to his joob and we will be winners again. This season...not next or the year after (!)

  2. Brigham

    Sep 21, 2011, 15:15 #13156

    Tony, I think you have been on the jungle juice mate. We have never ever only conceded 8 goals in one season. The best I can remember was season 1990/91 when it was 17 (I think?) On a slightly different slant, I see Inter Milan sacked their manager after just three months!

  3. Jimmy

    Sep 21, 2011, 14:21 #13147

    Tony (post 14581) - There's two flaws to your comment - three if you count that it's all in capitals. You don't need to SHOUT! Anyway, which season do you think we onyl conceded 8 goals? The best I remember was 18 league goals in 1990-91, whcih was also the season we lost 6-2 at home to Man United in the League Cup and 3-1 to Spurs in the FA Cup semi-final (painful memory that one). Your second flaw is that George Graham could no longer rule with an iron fist like he used to as current players just wouldn't put up with that anymore. Pathetic perhaps, but true.

  4. tony

    Sep 21, 2011, 13:54 #13146

    THER'S A SIMPLE ANSWER TO OUR DEFENSIVE WOES.BRING IN GEORGE GRAHAM.REMEMBER A WHOLE SEASON WE CONCETED ONLY 8 GOALS,NOT 8 IN A GAME.

  5. Munitionsman

    Sep 21, 2011, 12:49 #13142

    Answer=quickly

  6. dylan "santos" west

    Sep 21, 2011, 11:29 #13136

    We need big money players and not kids with a hope! we need to get what we want! we lost Mata and Cahill for offered low amounts lets get in so money and buy like the Chelseas and Man Citys we have rich owners????

  7. Elvis Minogue

    Sep 21, 2011, 11:24 #13135

    "The majority now want change" Didn't sound like that to me last night when "There's only one Arsene Wenger" was ringing around the ground.

  8. 2ndplaceisnevergoodenough

    Sep 21, 2011, 11:11 #13133

    I have to agree with this article....i dont understand how so many of you still want AW to stay!!! Will you still be defending him when we visit Derby, Ipswich etc next year?!...WENGER OUT

  9. nugs

    Sep 20, 2011, 18:10 #13119

    @steve your joking right? Wenger still the best man for the job!!!!!!!!!! **** me I honestly think if we were to get relegated the likes of you would still believe this, I personally believe that the majority of current pl managers would do a better job then wenger with the squad we got, why? For starters the first thing they would do is organise our back 4 and tackle our defensive problems on the training pitch simple. Wenger has lost the belief and respect of the players and the majority of fans, clearly there are still a few gullible souls in our ranks. The Arsenal belongs to us the fans not wenger and the crooks on the board.

  10. allybear

    Sep 20, 2011, 17:08 #13118

    Arsene wengers red&white army what a load of crap. This man has prisided over some terrible defeats in the last few years.Man U have beaten us heavily before the last debacle.We are a soft touch and AW cant change and wont change. Worst team i have seen in 40yrs as a gooner. Im ashamed of the team and its all Wengers fault because he stood still for years&you dont win anything with tippy tappy play and second rate players.

  11. Taskov

    Sep 20, 2011, 16:50 #13115

    Enough said.....its time for Wenger top go. nothing good can come from this stubborn coach.

  12. GoonerRon

    Sep 20, 2011, 14:49 #13108

    '...and stuffed by the bottom team in the league whose supporters had just been on a protest march...' a) we weren't stuffed - on another day their offside goal is given offside, we get a penalty, we don't score two unlucky OG's. We could and should have won the game. You make another interesting point about their fans marching - when I was travelling to the game I said to my mate that it could go two ways - if Kean has 'lost the dressing room' they could collapse, or he could get a massive positive reaction from the crowd and players - and it was the latter. As for falling further behind Man U, Citeh and Chelsea - they have spent over £1 billion on players in the last 7 years and in that time we've invested £400m in a new stadium. It stands to reason, taking purely those two things into account, the gap was at risk of widening, with a view to longer term (and we're talking decades) stability. I honestly think Wenger has overachieved getting us to a CL final, two Carling Cup finals and various title run-in's in that period. We most definitely should have got across the line for a trophy in that time and our failure to do so is down to the manager, the players he has recruited, the line up's he selects, the subs he makes, the tactics he chooses. But we are operating in once-every-hundred-years circumstances that none of the aforementioned clubs have operated under. Wenger needs to be improve the defence, and quick, but for me to be calling for his head is not the right move.

  13. rob

    Sep 20, 2011, 14:22 #13106

    well for the first time for a while i am feeling somewhat excited about supporting arsenal. i think everyone knows that wenger is a dead man walking. he knows it, we know it and the players know it. its just a matter of time before he goes. for whatever reasons, there are too many to list here, he will not turn this around and make us a title winning side again. its now time to be looking to the future of a new manager for the first time for 15 years, hopefully we get someone who can achieve half of what wenger did in his first 7-8 years at the club. hopefully he goes sooner rather than later and the re building of arsenal can begin.

  14. HP

    Sep 20, 2011, 12:54 #13096

    Arsene Wengers red & white army - those results are one offs, we have 16 points from 16 games lets recap some incredible results in the past few years 4-4-NC : throw away a 4 goal lead 2-3 spurs: throw away 2 goal lead 4-4 spurs: throw away 2 goal lead 3-3 spurs: throw away 2 goal lead 2011 CL @ camp nou: not a single shot on barca's goal manU 8-2 : worst defeat in over 100 years bburn 4-3: 2 own goals birmingham 2-1: cockup in 90th min hands them the trophy Truth be told, at any other top club he would have been sacked 3 years ago, its because of stupid AKBs who think he has what it takes and the board that loves him for having a positive net transfer that he stays. Best man for the job? what planet are these people living on? there are far superior managers such as rijkaard,ancelotti and hiddink who know how to construct title winning sides in the modern era of football. People are living in the past, talking about how wenger can turn it around because he made the invincibles,wake up,he had over 5 years to rectify this problem which has just become worse In any case I don't see anything changing and we will be in a relegation battle this season, prepare for more pain and humiliation.

  15. Dave

    Sep 20, 2011, 12:30 #13089

    'Arsene Wengers red & white army' you're talking sh*t, this collapse has been brewing for years - do you remember the four 0-0 draws in a row when Eboue was getting booed? The football in that spell wasn't good I can tell you. Its only because the Premier League was fairly average back then that we still managed a top 4 place but as teams have got better (Man City, Spurs etc.) and we have got worse, Wenger's deficiencies have come to the fore. And don't even get me started on the last 16 league games, its been complete tosh and every self-respected Gooner knows it. The time for change is now otherwise mark my words we'll be in a relegation battle (if not already) this season.

  16. Theo's Underpants Designer

    Sep 20, 2011, 12:07 #13084

    Arsene Wengers red & white army, what a pathetic defence you put up. One thing is for sure, there is no way Chelsea - or indeed any proper big club - would have allowed 6 years of 'experimenting' to go on, culminating in losing a Cup Final to a bottom of the table and soon to be relegated team, and then followed by a sequence of only 3 wins in 20 and yet still retained the services of the manager!! As the song goes: 'We used to big a big club, but not anymore'.

  17. Arsene Wengers red & white army

    Sep 20, 2011, 11:05 #13078

    The majority of fans do not want the manager to go. Being a supporter is about supporting, yes we are sh*t at the moment but this is where we have to stick together. As soon as we have a bad run all these tosspots who think they know football call for the managers head, should villas boas go cos he lost at man u at the weekend, should dalglish go cos hes lost 2 in a row including a spanking at the scum and not even qualifying for europe last season let alone the champs league, should mancini go after throwing away a 2 goal lead at fulham and only drawing at home in europe? Sometimes u lose football matches it happens, we are 5 games into the season, lets have a bit of perspective, some of these so called arsenal fans don't know they've been born, maybe you should try going to a few games, home and away, then maybe u won't be so critical rather than getting ur fill from skysports and tabloid newspapers

  18. Fishpie

    Sep 20, 2011, 10:33 #13073

    "well, I suppose my rant has arrived at this question... how do we get rid of Wenger?" One posibility is the AGM coming up at the end of October. If our results continue to be as poor and as eratic between now and then, the board will be under pressure. It might be a good opportunity to organise a peaceful fan protest outside the stadium while the meeting is going on. Fans chanting for changes of Kreonke, the board, the manager etc would at least ensure the media have got a more interesting story to report than the whitewash the club will spin.

  19. Matty S

    Sep 20, 2011, 9:47 #13064

    Agree with Chrisy Boy, need to get the board in shape. Support Usmanov!!! I dont want a billionaire oligarch, but he cares about Arsenal, Kroenke doesn't. Otherwise, why would he have kept onto his shares?

  20. Steve

    Sep 20, 2011, 9:46 #13063

    tipping point. what a joke. you have been reading the red tops too much I think. Wenger still is the best manager for the job and he is going nowhere

  21. chrisy boy

    Sep 20, 2011, 9:11 #13055

    the board need to be replaced just as much as wenger, otherwise they will just appoint someone else who makes them money but with no trophies to show, also new medicle staff, new coaches and get rid once and for all the deadwood within the squad,