Win

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Win

Van Persie: Quality goals


It was the classic game of two halves yesterday. Arsenal seem to play a lot of those these days. The distinction tends to be whether they start poorly and come good after the interval, or establish a winning position, only to see it fall apart in the second half.

Against Bolton, the first half was no great shakes. Little fluidity in the play, a couple of panicky moments, but even so, at least some half decent chances fashioned. The opposition were nothing special and there seemed no excuse not to overcome them somehow. Thankfully, the first goal before many had taken their seats for the second half changed things completely, and the subsequent red card for David Wheater ensured that Arsene Wenger’s team would finish the job and claim three very welcome points.

The enigma of Theo Walcott continued. Setting up the second goal and forcing Wheater’s shirt pull that saw Bolton reduced to ten men. Key moments in the game. And yet, the notion that he should be tried in a Michael Owen role, one I myself wanted to see in practice on the basis that the talent he does possess could be utilized more effectively, took one hell of a dent when, one-on-one and all alone in the middle, he shot tamely at the Bolton keeper. I have to admit that my frustration with the player is such that when he pulled up with what appeared to be a hamstring injury, my heart did not sink too much. There were plenty of ‘Oh Theo’ moments yesterday, and yet the law of averages does produce enough decent ones to win matches like those against Bolton. Question is, would it be better with another player? Mikael Arteta gave him a bollocking at one point, and maybe the nicey-niceyness of the Arsenal dressing room means that does not happen enough.

I sat next to the Highbury Spy to watch the game, and he shocked me with the stat that in Arsenal’s previous eight home Premier League matches, the team had failed to score more than a single goal on any occasion. Surely a run that you would have to go back a long way to match. Maybe it happened under George Graham, you would kind of expect it to, but I will leave that one to the historians to dig out. Fortunately the run came to an end with three fine goals, as the second half saw Arsenal play as we know they are capable of. It was a far more enjoyable 45 minutes after the relatively turgid first half.

And the victory was much needed ahead of the derby game next weekend. Gunners fans were already fearing the worst, and failure to beat Bolton at home would have set up the team like lambs to the slaughter at the Lane. As it is, there are visions of an Adebayor goal, but a clean sheet and some converted chances at least lifts some of the gloom that has enveloped the club after the reverses to Liverpool, United and Blackburn. An unlikely victory at Spurs would do wonders for the confidence of this season’s squad.

I know there are many that want a change of manager, and it would get boring if I repeated my own view on that every time I did a piece after a match. I have accepted that nothing is going to change very soon unless fans organize and make the manager’s position untenable, but that will only happen with more repeated failure on the pitch. Much as I want change, I do not have it in me to wish the team will lose to achieve it. Others may be different, but I am more pro-Arsenal than anti-Wenger. I would be delighted if the manager could prove myself and many others wrong by returning the club to glory, even if I just cannot see how without a radical change in his ways.

The decline since early 2011 has been entirely predictable, because it is obvious that things have gone stale. How much the new arrivals will shake things up remains to be seen, but if Arteta and the other newbies with some semblance of authority are prepared to makes waves by pulling up some of their colleagues for doing something wrong, then I am all for it. Gallas used to do it, Lehmann used to do it, and Arshavin – before he gave up and lost interest – had a go. But there were not enough voices to ensure standards did not slip, and things returned to the cosy world of the Arsenal dressing room where voices are rarely raised. In fairness to the departed Cesc Fabregas, can you imagine him rollocking anybody? That idea certainly needs to change if the club are to live up to the marketing and move ‘forward’.

Finally, sone housekeeping. Remember this? Ian Henry writes…

Thanks to the dozens (!) of you who entered the “guess what Arsene will do in the transfer market this summer” competition. Suffice to say, no one predicted any of the late arrivals. No one incidentally predicted Nasri would leave, nor JET; in fact nearly half of the entrants predicted Jay would be one of the young kids promoted to the first team squad; almost as popular for promotion was dear old Henri “The Hammer” Lansbury. Almost three quarters of entrants correctly predicted that Emmanuel Frimpong would be promoted to the first team squad – and our winner even backed this up with a statement that the manager would not bring in a holding midfielder, for which an extra mark was awarded. Anyway, the winner is Russell James, the only entrant moreover to predict the departure of Armand Traore. Russell correctly predicted the departures of Clichy, Traore, Denilson, Bendtner and Vela, the arrival of Gervniho and Oxlade-Chamberlain. Honourable mentions too to Mike Jeffrey and Mark Allen (the only person to predict the promotion of Ryo Miyaichi incidentally). For January, your challenge is to predict who we will sign in the last few hours of window, and where will Messrs Squillaci and Almunia end up.

We will be in touch with Russell shortly to arrange his prize.

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  1. Andrew Cohen

    Sep 27, 2011, 22:44 #13400

    Richard and others. We will all have to watch the car crash happen once again. This time however there is no Fabregas to win us the games we would lose or draw and no Bendtner to score the last gasp goal to save a draw. We are in uncharted territory because we will not get that tranche of points early in the season that cushions the impact of the November collapse. We are going to be living from hand to mouth as the astute coaches hand us beating after beating. I note that Wenger has said that the press are trying to get him sacked. It is my opinion that they are so appalled and disgusted by what is happening that they are simply expressing their incredulity that the manager is still in place. The fact that he is daft enough to attack the press in that way gives me hope that they will now start to say what they really feel about what is going on. Time for some real journalism - the sort in which you get insiders to talk and expose the truth.

  2. allybear

    Sep 26, 2011, 22:13 #13376

    Richard you will be missed but i can understand how you feel. I have been a fan for 40yrs and im disgusted how the club is run and that inept and tactically unaware fool Wenger is still in charge. I never wish that Arsenal lose but i do expect them to be beaten every time they play now and i will be surprised if Spurs dont hammer them. We all know that in order for the club to become successful again changes are required and i believe that Wenger needs to be replaced before it gets much worse.

  3. nugs

    Sep 26, 2011, 19:10 #13371

    Totally agree richard ansell add to that list the jcl supporters who think anyone who dare criticise wenger is not a real fan who has only supported the club thru better times! which could not be further from the truth for the majority of us.

  4. Ronster

    Sep 26, 2011, 15:33 #13365

    Richard,don't go....we need you to help us keep Mandy Dodd in check! :-)

  5. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 26, 2011, 14:31 #13363

    good post as always kevin i couldn't agree more that we need somebody to give out the rollocking when its needed.Must congratulate Arsenal ladies on their recent success.

  6. Richard Ansell

    Sep 26, 2011, 13:08 #13358

    Kevin - I have always enjoyed the Online Gooner and good luck with it in the future. This is me signing off as I can not take anymore of Wenger, Gazedis and Kronke. Between them (especially Wenger) they have killed my love of Arsenal, which after over 40 years is hard to take. There it is though, I am simply sick to the stomach with all the lies, greed, lack of ambition, clueless defending, backing of talentless players, and treating fans like gullible sheep. I want nothing but total humiliation for Wenger, which he so deserves, and can not support my team any longer with this clown in charge. Goodbye and good luck, hope to be back in touch when sanity prevails at Arsenal again.

  7. Ron

    Sep 26, 2011, 11:53 #13352

    The notion of paying to go to a game hoping to lose? I find that odd. Despite our travails, thats the ultimate end to truly supporting a Club i would have thought. Why not just not go? I cant beleive anybosy could pay out what it costs and hope to lose. What a sad day out that must be. Astonishing really.

  8. Ron

    Sep 26, 2011, 10:39 #13346

    There were some good passages play in the game but it was the poorest Bolton team ive seen for some years. I suspect theyre in trouble and we never bossed it till they went a man down. RVP was top class though.

  9. Merse69

    Sep 26, 2011, 9:48 #13342

    The next real test is on Sunday, but here we find all the usual negativity after a routine home win. The reason most fans are at least giving Wenger more time was easy to see in the second half against Bolton (and mid week against Shrewsbury). Quality football and really promising young players like Jenkinson, Coquelin and Oxlade-Chamberlain getting close to the first team.

  10. chrisy boy

    Sep 26, 2011, 9:29 #13340

    not one gooner in these blogs has mentioned jack wilshere and the news that broke late friday night, it is sheer negligence on the part of the medicle team that we now find jack out for a further 2 months, our players would be better off going to the nearest NHS hospital than to trust the clubs doctors, and this is not the first time they have made mistakes, would you keep your own GP if he kept getting your own illness wrong, no i think not. I so want Arsenal to do well and win cups and challenge for titles, but there is so much the club as a whole need to improve on that i just cant see things changing under the current regime.

  11. What was the point in leaving Highbury?

    Sep 26, 2011, 9:01 #13335

    Walking to the ground on Saturday I felt guilty becuase I have been one of those that are secretly glad when results go against Arsenal lately becuase I think that's the only thing that can turn all the mongs, Tourists and AKB's against their beloved leader. I've never wanted that in all the thirty years I have supported Arsenal so i made a very concious effort to get behind the team as your right Arsenal is bigger than Wenger although some would have you believe the opposite. After a poor first half we came good against a ten man poor Bolton team. Then what do you hear? "One Arsene Wenger". Like they were right all along. Look we are beating bottom of the league Bolton, Wenger must be right!!!!! Our next four league games should be interesting. Going to the Lane as underdogs for the first time in a very long while, then Sunderland, Stoke & Chelsea. I wonder how many rounds of One Arsene Wenger will be sung after that little lot. We are a mid table team with one or two world class players that could maybe lift us higher. That would RVP and Jack. RVP is due his two month winter break soon and the club are continuing their amazing record of ****ing up another injury so don't expect to see Jack back this season, same with TV.

  12. Dan h

    Sep 26, 2011, 8:43 #13330

    I posted previously RVP had met AW after selling Cesc & Nasri & he wasn't impressed with what he was told.RVP injuries included will attract a lot of interest he is coming to what will be his last major contract i really don't need to paint a picture of the likely outcome baring us showing real ambition in the transfer market.This is my frustration with our club you can't sell top players without investing back what you make + your transfer budget.RVP is thinking about his future not just massive wages but at 27/28 what has he won here?But more importantly what in the near future are we likely to win without showing a bit of ambition?

  13. Arsene Out

    Sep 26, 2011, 7:58 #13329

    Arsenal need players like Guttosso, Pepe, Barton and Dani Alves who are prepared to win at any cost and dont let anyone bully them. Surely they will pick up cards and get sent off but by then people like Evra and Rooney will not be able to call our players kids and girls and we will not be laughing stock for teams like Stoke and Wolves.

  14. goonergocarpfishing

    Sep 26, 2011, 6:40 #13328

    go on arsene go out and shock me and buy some real class.maybe de rossi from roma to give our midfield some much needed drive and desire with rodwell aswell chucked in for good measure.cahill(no silly bids please or he will end up at chelski) so when we do have big games away we can play when fit TVM at left back with cahill alongside mertasacker.then the real difficult bit,no 16 year olds for silly money go and get pato and hazard to add real skill pace and a threat in which we are in need of.im sure the players arsene has brought will all have thier moments and win us games but PLEASE ARSENE go out and spend some real money on what is lacking.good result saturday but that should be a result that we expect.next week arsene is what you cant afford (unlike the players im asking you to buy which im sure you can just wont)to lose.IN ARSENE IM NO LONGER SURE.

  15. DW Thomas

    Sep 26, 2011, 4:31 #13327

    "It's true that we had a meeting during the summer," Wenger said. "It is understandable that he would want that when you lose players such as Fábregas and Nasri. I don't think we will lose him." That last sentence is really worrying. Didn't he make similar ones regarding Fabregas and Nasri? Look at Van Persie's statements as well. Doesn't sound like someone who is really committed to the club for the future. He has been given faith in the past through his injuries. Cesc leaving we all could accept, but Nasri jumped ship instead of taking a leadership role, greedy, greedy. Will Van Persie do the same? When will someone come in and stand up for the club and give it their full backing and commitment? For our current captain to say he is too busy to deal with it smells of his desire to leave after this season or earlier. Why not at least come out and say he is not leaving? If he goes, we are really in trouble. Who will score goals consistently for us? Maybe signing some top class players in January will convince him to stay? Just when I think it can't get any worse with transfers...

  16. Wenger Out Now!

    Sep 25, 2011, 23:04 #13326

    Another false dawn methinks.This was the same Bolton who lost at home to Norwich last week.On current form we will get battered by the Spuds.As for Walcott hes a sprinter in football boots.Lets hope while he is out injured the Ox gets a chance but with our idiot manager dont bank on it.

  17. Stevesam

    Sep 25, 2011, 19:44 #13322

    A cautious note - if RVP goes missing as we all know at some stage during the season this will happen ( injury,suspension ) who will score the goals. Since January I believe RVP has been the top striker in the Country. The top teams shall target RVP, if you stop him you shall stop Arsenal. Is Wally the answer down the middle, after missing the one on one yesterday I say not. Would Vela score ? We need another 20 goals a season striker, like Wrighty or Theiry to finish in the top four. Anelka always wanted to come back and why didn't we sign Darren Bent ( a gooner )just look at his record.

  18. Fibs again

    Sep 25, 2011, 19:21 #13321

    also there were not 59,000 people in the ground. more like 49,000

  19. Mark

    Sep 25, 2011, 18:39 #13320

    i am not so convinced i still think we look fragile and i think bolton were weak on saturday. spurs are alot stronger team than bolton and have alot more dangerous players.

  20. Fozzy's mate

    Sep 25, 2011, 18:35 #13319

    Dan H - I echo your comments. The issue has been masked by the club pr machine. Its all very well living within your means but a club with the resources and support we have scraping around making silly offers for top players and settling for mediocre is crazy. Wenger and others say we can't compete but we choose not to use the funds we have available so does it matter how much more we have?

  21. CanadaGooner

    Sep 25, 2011, 17:55 #13318

    I think our next 3 games will be the most important this season - we play tottenham away, followed by 2 home games back to back. Our defense has to work better as Bale is getting back to his best and his speed down the flank is something i dont see koscielny being able to deal with. The blackburn game as well as yesterday's match (where bolton could have scored within 5 mins and we might have been up against it yet again) shows that our defenders need to work even harder. couple of really suspect back passes btw our goalie and mertesacker - they need to cleanup their act at he lane. I've devoted the past week to this site and trying to rouse some emotions out of the fans so we can all work together and set aside our annoyance and anger at wenger/the board for now - let's get a mnimum DRAW at the lane, beat stoke and sunderland at home and I can guarantee we wont be more than 5 or 6 points off the pace and we'll be back in the top 4 or 5. In that period (our next 3 games) - man utd, man city and chelsea play each other and liverpool and spurs have some tough fixtures. Good win yesterday, I still fear for our defense (let's hope they train hard before the weekend), let's go and WIN at Spurs and win our next 2 home games (stoke and sunderland) - then and only then can we be back on track! Gooner for life!!!!!!!!!

  22. leo zis

    Sep 25, 2011, 17:31 #13317

    If only...oh, of only, Van Persie had been at pick during Henry's time...its the same story for me...when Henry was at pick,(esp. after Bergkamp was retired), Henry was alone up front in need of a partner to spur him on his off day(s). Now its VP...i dread to think of an injury to him as it would flatten our frontline. Theo needs to sharpen his finishing touch big time :(

  23. CanadaGooner

    Sep 25, 2011, 17:05 #13316

    I'm surprised at those who continue to talk about Samba or Cahill. Samba was awful in defense yesterday and Bolton had the worst away record last season. will those players suddenly turn into better defenders because they join arsenal? I dont think so. more thought perhaps needs to go towards how we defend - we get brushed over all the time. I dont see a samba-type figure in the Man Utd side that throttled us 8 - 2 (evra is hardly a giant is he?) - what they show is a desire to defend and a great deal of discipline, which some of our defenders simply lack. All said, i do think wenger should get some of our old defenders (adams, dixon..) on the training ground to help toughen our defenders up a little

  24. DW Thomas

    Sep 25, 2011, 16:02 #13315

    Only a win against Olympiacos and at least a tie versus the Spuds will keep me from venting my frustrations again. That would give us a decent small run and if a good effort and result in the derby is achieved, then maybe we can start to believe a top four finish might be possible. Bolton looked toothless although they could have been up early in the game when Gibbs' poor defending gifted them a good chance. Again our goalkeeper is showing his class to keep us in games. Theo's miss was absolutely shocking, although he looked dangerous getting behind the defense and in a more central role. Can you imagine Rooney or Nani missing one like that? No way! We need more real deal consistent players. Arteta is looking good, Song was effective, and Ramsey even looked the part for once. Yet, left back is still our week spot in defense. Compare Gibbs to Evra or A. Cole or even Clichy and we are well behind our competition in that position. For me, I was happy we won, but we have beaten only Swansea and Bolton in the league. When we can also beat solid upper table teams and one of the top four then I will start singing praises. Praise without substance is empty praise. A win against Bolton is welcome, but doesn't convince me we have gotten anywhere yet. And if we lose any more key players in January then we are definitely on a freefall to mediocrity. Van Persie too showed his quality and needs to be rewarded as a top class player with better salary. Many changes at the club are still needed to guarantee we can keep making positive strides "Forward!".

  25. CD

    Sep 25, 2011, 15:06 #13314

    A win is always welcome, as well as a clean sheet!! Wenger however just can't help himself though can he, as today I read that he is blaming the world financial crisis for the fact we are not selling out our home games this season. He knows damn well it's because so many of us are so disillusioned with his management and the exorbitant prices that we chose not to attend whilst he remains in charge. The art of spin has not deserted him, and he makes Alistair Campbell look like a novice in this department. Just for once Wenger don't treat us all like gullible idiots, and you may find we have more respect for you, if you don't try to do our thinking for us!

  26. notsosure

    Sep 25, 2011, 14:55 #13313

    i disagree nick, i was at the match and arsenal could and probably should have 3-4 up by half time. I still think we'll need Cahill in defence or maybe Samba to go alongside Vermaelen, I think our team needs a lot more physicality by jan

  27. Dan h

    Sep 25, 2011, 13:07 #13312

    Any win is always welcome i can't believe any true Arsenal fan would want to lose any game to bring about change at our club.I am all for stability at our club but it has definatly turned into stagnation.There lies the true problem the club are right to live within their means but the board use that line to not invest what we do actually make.The balance sheet has become the real trophy of the board these last six years.To come up short against clubs that have no budget well no shame in that but when you won't actually use your own resources fully thats where imo they can have no excuses.

  28. nick

    Sep 25, 2011, 12:53 #13311

    The first half was the same garbage we've had for about 10 home games in a row, it's painful to watch this slow sideways passing which goes nowhere. Hopefully the second half showed that the manager has at last made the tactical adjustment to end this misery.

  29. Gooner SA

    Sep 25, 2011, 12:37 #13310

    Good win. Interesting to hear Sol Campbell on Goals on Sunday saying that you need to have defenders who want to defend and are willing to die for the cause. Anyone see that in Koscielny, Djourou, Squillaci et al [????]

  30. Oliver Chessis

    Apr 05, 2011, 17:54 #4482

    "You are a fan of a club and you’ll be there in 10, 20, 30 plus year’s time when the current manager and players are just distant memories." - problem is, a lot of these morons having a go will not be once we are not successful

  31. CD

    Apr 05, 2011, 14:47 #4468

    You could not be more wrong with your view that we will never change anybodies mind. If everyone took your sit on the fence attitude, nothing indeed would ever change!! If we all consistently heckle and call for change and generally let our feelings be known that enough is enough, the presure will become unbearably hot for those in charge. The media would pick up on it, and their ability to ask searching questions of Wenger (something we are denied) would eventually lead to change, be it in either Wenger's approach or him leaving. Personally I would now prefer the latter, as I have little faith in Wenger's ability to spend money on players, as he will simply add more clones of what we already have in abundance. So in summary if we all took your attitude then yes Wenger will be here for a minimum of 3 more years, but I and many others intend to prove you wrong, and if you also want change I suggest you join our campaign and not be so neagative about the possibility of ousting Wenger!!

  32. Richard Ansell

    Apr 05, 2011, 13:15 #4465

    If next season (I have already written off this one) begins with the same bunch of charlatans - players and manager than I for one will not be remotely interested. Call me a fair-weather fan if you like, but I can assure you that I have supported Arsenal during some really bad times. The difference now is that I do not understand what Wenger is trying to do and we seem to be going round and round in circles each season and the same old problems keep repeating themselves. He has alienated me as a fan, which has taken some doing after forty odd years of support. Unlike you I will find something better to do with my Saturday afternoons and all of the other wasted hours I have spent witnessing Wenger's complete lack of direction and repeated mistakes. I hope my 'divorce' from Arsenal will be a short one because the club means so much to me but I have had more than enough of Wenger and his 'best squad ever'.

  33. Dan

    Apr 04, 2011, 19:58 #4442

    I too don't remember the fans being as angry as we were after Saturday's shocker. I put it down to an anger at watching a team of players who don't have fight (Jack is excused from that) at least the David Hillier, Gilles Grimandi type players we had tried their heart out now the challenge is there and they run a mile. I may be wrong and hope I am but I see us 4th at best, this team seem to have lost all trust in themselves and more worryingly eachover, and the manager. In Arsene we rust was a funny banner I saw on saturday, it may turn out to be a look at the future?

  34. Joe Fitzpatrick

    Apr 04, 2011, 19:51 #4441

    I'm sorry but I don't follow your logic. You write a blog to tell us that blogs, websites and fanzines etc achieve nothing! The Gooner is the one place that Arsenal fans truly have a voice and it's importance should not be underestimated. If you really think that some marketing boffins are not being paid by Arsenal to keep their finger on the pulse and check which way the wind is blowing you are deluded.