Enough is enough

Resignation Letter



Enough is enough

Will the last fan in the stadium please turn off the lights?


The fact that ‘there’s only one Arsène Wenger’ was being sung on Saturday was the final straw for me. It would have stuck in my throat if I had even wanted to join in, and I realised that the time had come for me to part company with Arsenal. ‘How can you?’, I hear some of you say. Well, I never would have thought it possible, but my anger and frustration with Wenger has now reached such a level that it has made the decision surprisingly easy.

It seems a very long time ago that I decided to support Arsenal; it must have been around November, 1970, as I distinctly remember loosely following Chelsea and enjoying their 1970 FA cup win over Leeds. Not for me, though, the bright lights of the Kings Road, Peter Osgood and co. I switched to boring old Arsenal and, after watching Charlie George secure the double in 1971, that was it: a Gooner for life.

I managed my first visit to Highbury at the tender age of 12 in 1973, and watched Liverpool beat us 2-0 and, although I was disappointed, it mattered not a jot. I was bowled over by the experience, much like Nick Hornby was in the film of ‘Fever Pitch’. Many games have followed, and I have witnessed some wonderful times, along with, of course, lots of disappointments too.

At one stage, Arsenal were all that mattered to me, and my weekend mood was completely dependent on how we had fared. I was either the life and soul of the party or in a black mood of despondency if we had lost. This probably peaked in the famous 1989 season with Mickey Thomas’s goal in the incredible 2-0 win at Anfield to clinch the title; something I never thought I would see happen again after such a long time since 1971. I thought to myself: it does not get any better than this, and gradually I brought my Arsenal support into some sort of perspective.

That is not to say that Arsenal had suddenly become unimportant to me, but I was able to function as a human being whether we won, drew or lost. Probably because of this, I am - thankfully - happily married, with a lovely wife and daughter who both hate football and cannot understand my passion for a football team. It is, though, a manageable passion now.

I come now to the ‘Wenger Years’. What can I say about 1998 to 2005? Those years probably saw some of the best football Arsenal have ever produced. I am not going to debate whether Wenger was lucky to inherit such a solid defence and keeper, although what we have witnessed post 2005 suggests that he probably was. All I will say is that Wenger gave us some wonderful times, whether he was lucky or not, and I thank him for that. I think this is why many of us have been so very patient with him up until now.

I realised after the Bolton game that I was not happy about us winning. This feeling intensified when I read about Wenger claiming we could still get back in to the title race and Gazidis coming out with the usual empty promises of money to spend in the next transfer window. On top of that, Wenger was also quoted as saying his top players may have to be sold as their contracts are running down. I wonder why the likes of RVP don’t want to commit pen to paper. Could it be that, like so many of us supporters, he has no faith anymore in the manager?

Such is my conviction that Wenger is bleeding our club dry of quality and experience, and such is my bafflement over so many decisions he has made, that I can no longer blindly support my team with him in charge. The Board, too, makes me sick to the stomach with their spineless, greedy behaviour and their blind worship of all things Wenger. Finally, as I said right at the beginning of my article, the fact that we still have fans chanting Wenger’s name was the final straw.

The only way Wenger will be sacked or will resign is for Arsenal to struggle badly this season and, for me, that is more important than Arsenal having another season of scraping home fourth. I want a short, sharp shock, Wenger out, and a huge wake-up call to the club in general that we are sleep-walking to mediocrity. Perhaps then we can start on the road to recovery and get some ambition back at the club (and a defence).

Because of this, I am ‘resigning’ from The Online Gooner as I do not feel that I can contribute anymore. You all know my feelings, and I thank everyone who has agreed with my sentiments. I sincerely hope for better times ahead for Arsenal, but it has to be with a new manager, as my trust and respect for Arsène Wenger has reached the point of no return. So I am now in the football wilderness with no club to support, but even that is better than swallowing any more of Wenger’s ridiculous comments and lies. I just hope it is not for too long, and I hope to be fully behind a new Arsenal manager ASAP. A new Board as well would be even better, but that would be pushing my luck too far, I think.


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  1. Highberry

    Sep 30, 2011, 18:21 #13623

    You wern't happy with us winning?? Absolute drivel, yeah might as well stop supporting until we win trophies again and then hop right back on the bus. Spurs are building a nice new stadium with more seats so maybe you can get one there?

  2. Mike

    Sep 30, 2011, 18:05 #13622

    @ chris- go and support Spurs then - no problem. Rather like Rons notion that things are a bit more interesting now. I bet a lot of negative posts would would have also been written in 1975/76 if this website had existed. The same can be said about the eighties. The teams were average and managed a good cup run every now and then. I guess we lost a few "fans" then too..... More than likely to Liverpool at the time. There are however many fans still here from that period who went on to witness the greatest feat ever - no losing a single game in the EPL - Cycles mate. Most people still don't realise that only four teams have won the EPL and Arsenal is one of those teams. Nothing since 2005 - so what. Lets see if we can get something this year -isn't that what it is all about.

  3. exiled&dangerous

    Sep 30, 2011, 16:59 #13621

    Chris - Post 15147 - you really actually WANT us to LOSE on Sunday to THEM? Hey-ho, it's your right to say that, and mine to disagree. I just hope you're absolutely gutted by 6pm Sunday then.

  4. Sir Henry

    Sep 30, 2011, 14:37 #13617

    The good thing about this “crisis” is that we get rid of all the fair-weather supporters, this fella included!

  5. Chris

    Sep 30, 2011, 14:09 #13614

    I know exactly how you feel mate. I actually want us to lose on Sunday (never, ever felt like that before) but something has to happen to force Wenger out.

  6. A REAL GOONER

    Sep 30, 2011, 13:13 #13609

    Very sad. A true fan sticks with the club no matter what. You take the good with the bad. Stop moaning. "Wenger Out" is NOT the answer. Who else could have kept us competitive on such a small budget (compared to Chelsea, Man U, City, Liverpool, etc) Even the Spuds spend more than us and look at them. Go on, look at them. How many managers and how much money have they burned though, and for what? One season in the CL. One. Now look at Arsenal. Great stadium, top manager (not an idiot despite what some morons think), good finances, good players, good reputation, good football. Sure we're not invincible any more, but it's not the end of the world. Now take a long hard look at yourself. I hope you're ashamed.

  7. JER

    Sep 30, 2011, 12:28 #13604

    Bye then, I expect you'll be back when the good times return.

  8. Joe S.

    Sep 30, 2011, 11:41 #13603

    Silly arguement RJ we lose Van Persie and what do we get? more of the garbage on display against Olympiakos. Charmack, Arsharvin, Rosinski, Park not even good enough to get on the park. What a waste. There was once a good team ready to become great here. If we can't hold on to our players any longer then the club is heading for a fall unlike any other. Like so many loyal fans who care I also go back to 70 , It's amazing how many of us there are. These are dark times and although there's more to life than football I'll stick with the club. What I can't stand at the moment however are the fantasistes who still believe in Wegner (he Simply is not capable of reinventing himself and I'm certain doesn't himself believe the garbage coming out of his own mouth ) and the Wal Mart administration above him. Get real guys you all saw Thursday's game and must be aware that this is a team heading nowwhere and that a group of greedy opportunists are taking us all for a bunch of morons.There must be twenty or so managers who could do a better job than what Wegner is currently doing and that's just the tip of the iceburg. Look at the guy in charge of Napoli for example. Wegner and the board must go. Richard A. please don't!

  9. Wenger out NOW

    Sep 30, 2011, 10:30 #13601

    Richard Im feeling your pain. Dont worry about what all these idiot akbs are saying in the comments. Ive been going since 1968. Me and my son are season ticket holders. We go to away games, we both love the club. I have lived this club all my life. I felt like an away fan last saturday when the they sung 'one Arsene wenger" song. My son looked at me with horror. Im hoping we lose now (Which is killing me) I feel the only why this is going to get better is if it gets worse. Wenger need to go. Everything you say is 100% correct. I will still be going. Love Arsenal. Hate Wenger!!

  10. goonerDNA is dench

    Sep 30, 2011, 10:20 #13599

    Man up and remember that managers come and go and Arsenal will never die you should know this being a older arsenal fan you're been thru hard times and also think of all the Leeds fans and Nottingham fans who carried on supporting and your bemoaning a win and few young boys singing 1 arsene wenger

  11. Cloggs

    Sep 30, 2011, 10:04 #13598

    Richard, I feel your pain and I wholeheartedly agree with every word you said. I feel increasingly being detached with the club and certainly also with a part of the fanbase - the AKB's who will grab every opportunity to hail their mighty deity, whatever he does (or doesn't!)It's embarrasing to see how some of these "fans" react on here. I hope you'll be back because we need your sort, fans who have a strong opinion of their own and speak up for it. In the meantime Wenger will be given enough rope... It's sad but I think it's indeed the only way to turn things for the better.

  12. Terry

    Sep 30, 2011, 8:43 #13594

    So Richard Ansell has supported Arsenal since 1970 and has stayed loyal to the club for over forty years, probably has watched countless dreadful performances, espescially in the mid seventies and eighties and yet some of you muppets still call him a plastic fan or a glory hunter. Get real!! I salute you Richard, in having the courage to tell it how it is and I hope to see you back at the Grove, with a new manager in charge, before too long.

  13. Simon Hughes

    Sep 29, 2011, 23:53 #13590

    I hope you enjoy ****e Hart Lane!!! You deserve each other!!! Good Riddance and all those who agree with him!! Its so called fans like you that has made The Emirates such a depressing atmosphere at times!!!!

  14. TheWineMouse

    Sep 29, 2011, 23:24 #13589

    If you hate Wenger so much campaign against him.When fans sing his name sing an anti Arsene chant.They have as much right to love him as you do to hate him.Its just like supporting Arshavin or Walcott,opinion is divided as to how good they are,its personal opinion.Where all those different opinions merge is that we support Arsenal.How can you leave your team?However as said choice is everything as is personal opinion.My opinion on you is never come back,you are a turncoat and the more people like you who leave the more passionate the crowd will be.Leave Arsenal-good riddance.

  15. Lee afc

    Sep 29, 2011, 20:32 #13584

    Arsenal will be about long after Wenger has gone. We aint a puppy that you can just pick up and put down. Totally agree with you on the wenger,s shelf life has been played out but, its ARSENAL FOOTBALL CLUB.....not Wenger fc. I was at the Bolton game and I sang my heart out not for wenger or the board but because ARSENAL are my club......

  16. CanadaGooner

    Sep 29, 2011, 20:26 #13582

    @allybear: anyone who uses the word "They" with his club is not a real fan. I'm resigning from this site today as well, because I'm fedup of reading rubbish like Richard Ansell's article. I only recently logged on this site and I thought it would be an intelligent forum to exchange intelligent opinions with fellow Arsenal Fans about TOPICAL issues like the sometimes dull atmosphere as the emirates and whether or not Wenger needs to be replaced and if so, bu whom (and not just mindless rant about how he must go because we havent won anything in 6 seasons? who else has, other than Man Utd and Chelsea?) I've always been of the impression that Arsenal Fans are the most educated and intelligent football fans in egland but after a few days on this site I beg to differ and I have to call it a day I'm afraid (cant stomach anymore o this tripe!) As for ARSENAL; the club will continue to receive my full support as a fan and I will be at the next 2 home games (flying in from Canada) and a few more over xmas Gooner for life!!!

  17. ScaryRoger

    Sep 29, 2011, 20:03 #13581

    'I switched to boring old Arsenal and, after watching Charlie George secure the double in 1971, that was it: a Gooner for life.' Except you weren't a gooner for life- you started off supporting chelsea and are now leaving because it has been tough going for a few years. The support of this type of fan will not be missed.

  18. Andrew

    Sep 29, 2011, 19:59 #13580

    Forgive me but you only support Arsenal when things are good. Because things are just too bad you dont support them anymore. They is a saying "evil prevails when good people fail to act" You yourself sir, i dont know you but that makes you a glory hunting ****.

  19. Ronster

    Sep 29, 2011, 18:31 #13578

    Bob Lord.....Had Wenger possessed some defensive nous and not wasted millions on pathetic French imports we could have snatched the Premier League title last season from under the noses of a below par Man Utd and Chelsea.It's not always about money my friend,it's about striking while the iron is hot! Wenger out!!

  20. gg

    Sep 29, 2011, 17:54 #13575

    what rot! though you may not like what you see, it doesnt mean you can abandon the CLUB! its not the same as the TEAM or the MANAGER. its for life: otherwise you were never a REAL fan in the first plavce. and maybe, when those results pick up in 3 years time, when AW has moved on and a new tream has bedde4d in you'll be back, cap in hand. but, guess what? you wont be welcome- at least not by me, and the 30000 or so core REAL fans who support the club called ARSENAL!

  21. allybear

    Sep 29, 2011, 17:29 #13574

    I have been a gooner for 40yrs and i consider myself a football man in so far as i enjoy watching football and not just Arsenal. I do however consider that AW has been in charge for too long and he has not kept up with the changes in football.He has been stubborn to the point of arrogance.After being used to top 4 finishes im afraid that we will have to get used to mid table positions in future.I still support Arsenal but i have less passion and dont get upset when they lose anymore.

  22. HILS

    Sep 29, 2011, 16:39 #13573

    I couldn't agree with you more. I love Arsenal but when Monsier Wenger always sees a completely different game to everyone else it has now been impossible to muster the usual support. Its strange that since Pat Rice hadto do the team talks we always seem to play a better game second half. Too much power given to one man, and too many old cronies still on the board.

  23. Greybeard the G00ner

    Sep 29, 2011, 16:21 #13572

    True supporters are supporters for life through thick and thin. Everyone can be a fan when the goings good. However bad we think we are now,(in the Champions league let's not forget) I have seen much , much worse at Highbury, 16th in 1975 ,17th in 1976. This article smacks of self pity I expect you'll be back when we start winning things again but in the meantime City look a good bet for some more silverware so maybe you can get some sky blue, until the good times return of course.

  24. JJB

    Sep 29, 2011, 15:24 #13569

    This site delved into the realms of idiocy a long time ago, the contributors generally are devoid of any well thought out argument and love their sweeping statements, where the pre requisite for every piece is "I was a gooner since i was in the womb" my opinion is more valid than yours. I love the arrogant self styled musings of these fools and the comments make me laugh. Whoever richard ansell is, he is no football supporter, please run along and take your idiot cronies with you, no one cares! But the worst part is you obviously think other real fans, do care about you and your opinions! Jog on mate, you’re the type of fair-weather plastic that is far to ingrained in our fan base and we need to be rid of you once and for all. Yes you can knock a few unoriginal sentences together but it’s all conceited, narcissistic rubbish! You don’t understand football so go and follow the croquet championships or some other pointless sport that is befitting your pointless opinions ......BYE BYE

  25. Bob

    Sep 29, 2011, 14:48 #13568

    Richard I absolutely share your analysis of Wenger and why he must go. I go back even further than you, saw my first game as a young boy on 5 March 1966 and it was because the supporters had stomached enough years of mediocrity that the bonfires burned brightly on the terraces which precipitated a change of manager and the success that follows. Of course, the johnny-cum-latelys who slavishly worship Wenger will tell us that we were spoiled in the first six years of his management. It's true they were great times, but how long exactly can or should he be allowed to fall back on them? The game has moved on, and the Club has not adapted. The board have been content to allow a manager whose approach to team-building does not threaten their so-called "self sustainability" model, while all the time we fall further and further behind. Does anyone seriously believe that once the UEFA Fair Play rules kick in City and Chelsea will just evaporate? That United - and Ferguson in particular - will ever rest on his laurels in the way Arsenal and Wenger have? That Liverpool, Tottenham and a clutch of other teams are not already showing more ambition and vision than we are? Richard - please continue to fight the good fight. Don't allow those who are deluded enough to chant for a spent force to discourage you. You are one of the sane voices on The Gooner - to paraphrase the words of Hugh Gaitskell, as leader of the Labour Party in the 1960s, "fight, fight, and fight again to save the Club we love".

  26. Bob Lord

    Sep 29, 2011, 14:21 #13565

    The only way we can compete is if we have as much money as the teams we are competing with. How will a new manager change this?

  27. Dorset Gonner

    Sep 29, 2011, 14:06 #13563

    CanadaGooner - My point was that I see comments on here from Arsenal supporter from all around world, most are slating other fans for the choices they are making (ie giving up session tickets, not going to games anymore) If Richard and others have had enough then its there choice, we may not agree but no need for some of the comments (eg glory, jog on down to Sh*te Heart lane). It doesn't matter where you live but if your going to call for the manager to be sacked then you should least make an effort to attend games, most people commenting seem to base there opinons on what they heard on MOTD and Sky Sports News!

  28. JP

    Sep 29, 2011, 12:42 #13558

    Gareth - I would take any number of dodgy billionaires until UEFA say otherwise and Martin O'Neil would get my vote. I for one can understand how Richard is feeling as Wenger does my head in too.

  29. Gareth

    Sep 29, 2011, 11:46 #13553

    Bye! You either support Arsenal or you don't. If you want to support another team then do that. Why you have to write about it beats me? Until one single malcontent can come up with a viable alternative (i.e. an better manager and a financial strategy that does not depend on dodgy billionaires throwing hundreds of millions into the bottomless pit of player transfers and wages) then they should shut up or go and "support" someone else.

  30. Vineet

    Sep 29, 2011, 11:30 #13551

    Dear Mr Ansell, Very well put. I am a new convert from India, brought up on 2001 onwds champagne on offer. Post invincibles season, his project youth was laudable - for me till Eduardo injury. The team had no spine to come back from injury. He has let go off too many opportunities where good players (much better than we had) were available at managable price. Think of it he pays Diaby same wages as Van De Vart gets at Spurs. What crap. His refusal to see and address the failings is too well known. In my view he should leave with dignity giving time for the next manager to do some shopping and chopping in Jan 12. His record in Monaco and otherwise doesnt make for top drawer reading. The lesser said for board and hill-wood the better Hope you will be with AFC for long.

  31. Dave

    Sep 29, 2011, 10:49 #13547

    Just gotta laugh at the fans who say 'support the club', don't they realise that Wenger is now 'The Club' hence the reason why people like Richard, myself and others just haven't got the same feeling towards AFC anymore

  32. Mitesh

    Sep 29, 2011, 9:32 #13545

    Why do fans constantly believe that we should be winning a trophy every year? Yes that's what we all want however I don't think we realise how important we as fans all are to the way the team performs. I was at the Arsenal - Olympiakos game last night and the atmosphere was great, we were playing well and the fans were behind the boys. We then as fans got a little bored and quietened down only for Olympiakos to score a few minutes later...I'm not saying this was the fans fault but we play such an important part for a team that is lacking confidence. Singing the managers, the teams name can only help the team. To think that we need to let go in order for us to improve is a very "I'm from London but support United" type of comment. Good times come with the bad, but we as fans need to get behind each and every part of the team if we are to succeed. This does include Wenger, no matter whether he may have made some bad decisions. He has never ever bought PROVEN talent to the club in its glory days and this is how the invincibles were built...we trusted him then so we owe it to him to trust him now. We are a great club with some of the most passionate fans if you read the comments, why can't we get behind the boys week in week out and intimidate the opposition and pull the team over the line once in a while?

  33. Andrew Cohen

    Sep 29, 2011, 9:03 #13544

    In 1976, Arsenal got rid of Bertie Mee, because his time was at an end after a struggle with relegation. Terry Neill went when he ran out of ideas. Don Howe resigned when he got wind of the fact that Arsenal were lining up Terry Venables. George Graham was dismissed (under the pretext of bung scandal) when he too flirted with relegation. Rioch was junked after a year when the Arsenal Board felt that he could not cut it. All of these dismissals were engineered at the appropriate time by a Board including the present Chairman and the former MD Ken Friar. Since those times, the club has changed ownership and board control. The reason that people like Richard feel so strongly on this issue is because there is no sense left at board level to react to a failing manager and deal with the situation. Those who sing " There's only one arsene wenger" really mean, "we have known no leader save Arsene and can't imagine life without him. We don't care how low Arsenal sink, we have our religion of Arsene and nothing will break our faith". Richard's desire for change and unbearable frustration are consistent with what is best for AFC, and those who, somewhat predictably, abuse him, are misguided, which is about as politely as I can put it.

  34. Tony Evans

    Sep 29, 2011, 8:20 #13543

    I admire Richard's honesty and he comes across as a true fan that is honest enough to admit that although he still cares, he does not care enough to call himself a supporter any longer. I know how he feels because I am on the slippery slope too and certainly don't get the usual buzz when we win or the feeling of mega disappointment when we lose any more. As for saying go back to Chelsea, the man was 10 years old for Christ's sake and was never a Chelsea supporter, if you actually read what he said.

  35. Tommy

    Sep 29, 2011, 6:44 #13542

    OMG Arsenal have alot of fake supporters! ohh its a bit rough now hmm maybee i shall go back to support chelsea or even man utd, so pathetic

  36. Really over 50?

    Sep 29, 2011, 6:39 #13541

    I've long suspected this site was for plastics, just gotten confirmation. He'll be back, just like all the other plastics....when we start winning of course. UTA

  37. Felix

    Sep 29, 2011, 2:24 #13540

    This is crass - of course we've all gone through the stomach-churning metaphysical-existential despair. Committing suicide isn't the answer as it will deny you future happiness. All you have been through before has been bad times, good times and then 2002-2004 exhilirating times (save the obvious heartbreaks). We were given such a thrill, our hopes so highly-raised that everything has been disappointing anti-climax - depression. The 8-2 mauling wouldn't have happened with Gervinho, Frimpong, Wilshere.I'm glad it did as we strengthened our squad in a real way as a consequence. Wenger's been on a bum ride himself and frankly, despite all our defensive faults, the 2nd half v Bolton - moments of today,s performance v Olympiakos tell me that we have a very good season ahead of us. Where other teams may have peaked far too early this season, Arsenal's season hit an early winter. Long live the metaphorical spring. ANyhow, I would agree that sacking PHW and other associated board members would be a good move and save money. Replaing Wenger - with whom? Mourinho? Mancini? Sir Alex? Chelsea's new coach? Gus Poyet? Er, quite.

  38. Jonathan

    Sep 29, 2011, 1:29 #13539

    I have been following the Gooner since I was 13 years old (now 30). I distinctly remember the immense feelings of pride and privilege when I first encountered the heartfelt and informed critique contained within its respected pages. However, I now find the degree of incredulity and rage I am experiencing provoked by what I can only describe as one of the most embittered, cynical and pathetic articles I have ever encountered regarding our club too much to endure. I will continue to support the club and the manager, regardless of the absurdity, turmoil and painfully predictable circumstances we now find ourselves in and unlike the author of the resignation letter above will most certainly not be giving up on Arsenal Football Club... only the Online Gooner and its printed counterpart. Thanks for the memories and enjoy the rest of the season.

  39. chris

    Sep 29, 2011, 0:12 #13538

    you are not serious guy move on to another club and that will serve you better, soon i see you back to the fold. have wilderness moment sir

  40. Shropshire Lad

    Sep 29, 2011, 0:10 #13537

    Don't know you Richard and it appears I am older. You shouldvhave experienced the Billy Wright debacle along with the bloody Beverly Sisters, oh and the same useless bloody names on the Board! Listen to 'CD' and 'Jjetplane' take a 'holiday' from it and come back refreshed. I was at an evening game in the juniors enclosure at Highbury watching with only about 4000 at the match (is that the lowest Highbury attendance for a 1st Division game anyone?) against WBA. Cannot remember the score but know I was frozen and distraught. However, you hang in there and years later you are watching Charlie curl in the double winning goal from behind that goal having been to the Spuds the Tuesday before. There is no feeling like it (apologies to the wife!) and deep down you know that. Get up dust yourself down, hammer a bottle of good single malt, read Kiplings 'If' (again) and get back on the 'Emirates' horse. You never know it may win another race before you peg it! That's what I'm (North) banking on! 'If you can meet with triumph and disaster.........

  41. dan

    Sep 29, 2011, 0:06 #13536

    judging by this rubbish you should have tried giving up before you started and saved yourself, and those unfortunate enough to read this, precious time to have a life with. good luck with that

  42. Mandy dodd

    Sep 28, 2011, 23:41 #13535

    Well ram gun, hope you enjoyed the battling second half performance, as such described on the official site by none other than pat rice, who had a rep as somewhat a battler himself. Richard ansell, not knowing you but from taking what's on this forum at face value, I hope you reconsider, I do not agree with you on a lot of things but a shame for the club to lose good fans. I am sure you realise whatever you think of the manager or board, this club will not be so easy to withdraw from, hope the club get you back soon, in the meantime, be happy!

  43. Erik

    Sep 28, 2011, 23:35 #13534

    Richard, you are a joke mate. So you been supporting Arsenal since 1971 but now, 40 years later you decide to quit because of Wenger? Wenger who has kept us in the Top 4 since 1996? How come you were happy to support Arsenal in 92 when we finished 10th? or in 94 when we finished 12th? You also moan about our defence and claim the only time our defence was good was when Wenger inherited the back 4 of Adams & co... The same "amazing" defence that let 49 goals in in 94, the same amazing defence from which every player said that hadnt been for Wenger they would have had to retire but Wenger extended their careers? I guess he also inherited the Invincible defence then? oh and the fact Arsenal holds the best defensive record in the Champions League is irrelevant? In my opinion fans that are resigning and going on spoilt little brat tandrums have been spoiled by Wenger's golden era and now feel we should be achieving that every year. We have not won the league in 6 years... if we win the league consistently every 6 years then we'd have around 20 league titles by now. I hope things go well with your wife, if things turn bad with her you'd resign from that as well I assume? Good luck with both.

  44. arsenal4life

    Sep 28, 2011, 23:17 #13533

    sorry u feel that way. My advice is support the badge, the history, the players and who knows whats around the corner. It aint as bad as u think we have great players who love the fans and a top manager who loves the club, we must unite if we are to get stronger, look at the positives, point out were we are going wrong. but most of all immerse yourself in the club and enjoy the football.COME ON U GUNNERS!!!

  45. exiled&dangerous

    Sep 28, 2011, 22:55 #13532

    Adieu. But, as you've "resigned" could you please stop responding to comments on here? It reminds me of a certain Mr Shankly, continuing to turn up at the training ground of a certain club after he'd left...... we won tonight, by the way. Not convincingly, but we won. And I would settle for that on Sunday, even if I wanted the manager, board and players to all resign en masse. Which I don't. But you won't read this, because you've "resigned" - unless you "re-sign" in the near future when things are looking rosier?

  46. Ramgun

    Sep 28, 2011, 22:55 #13531

    Richard, you are not leaving the club, the club have left you. Our history since 1925 of having battling teams where the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts and of being the only southern club respected( and hated) up north because we had guts has been dismantled by Wenger and replaced by an effete, dilettante, spoilt bunch of ballet dancers. Wenger has taken my Arsenal, and yours, and turned my beloved Gunners into a balls-free zone.

  47. shedzy

    Sep 28, 2011, 22:34 #13530

    go and support citeh then. we were amazing for a while, truly amazin - truthfully, i dont think we got the success we deserved, but we were Arsenal fans on the way up for years of mediocrity and who know what the future brings. Once a Gooner, always a Gooner - there is nothing to make a choice over, IMHO.

  48. Oh Dear!

    Sep 28, 2011, 22:19 #13529

    I've heard the board have got pretty restless at the fact that Richard Ansell might never write for the Online Gooner again! Personally I don't think it would be a great loss for this site to lose a contributor whose best stab at writing his feelings is to plagiarise the film 'Fever Pitch' in the fourth or fifth paragraph. Why do so many of these contributors write their own personal biog of what game they went to etc - they're some random bloke, who cares? Write something interesting!

  49. Mike

    Sep 28, 2011, 21:56 #13528

    Like you a supporter from the early 70's, but, if I had a pound for every time I wanted throw it all away, I would be a wealthy man, yet I am still here supporting the team I love!

  50. G787

    Sep 28, 2011, 21:41 #13527

    Aw come on OnlineGooner,I understand your frustrations as I feel much the same, but abandoning the club is the wrong thing to do. Stick with them as you obviously care,take a break from your blog and came back a bit later, maybe when the manager has changed if need be.

  51. win AFC

    Sep 28, 2011, 20:47 #13526

    I Know how you feel Richard,Just keep on in there keep on thinking Arsenal forever,At least you can support the club, Never mind about Wenger or the board.Just carry on mate. 'ARSENAL TILL YOU DIE'

  52. Wenger out

    Sep 28, 2011, 20:22 #13525

    Don't go Richard. I have enjoyed reading your contributions. You are spot on in so much of what you say. I too feel as though I am being disenfranchised by Wenger, this board and the moronic Wenger knows best brigade. You know them, the ones who believe that Arsenal did not exist before Wenger came along. You are someone who loves Arsenal FC not Arsene FC. Our Club is beng destroyed by this man and the blind faithful who still sing "one Arsene Wenger". Love Arsenal, not Arsene! Get Wenger out!

  53. CanadaGooner

    Sep 28, 2011, 20:12 #13524

    Let's hope all the negative folks out here are watching today's game. Man City fans werent asking for Mancini's firing yesterday and neither were Chelsea Fans after spending hundreds of millions and still failing to win the champions league (their owner did the firing and even after that, and several managers later - he still hasnt won the champions league) Wenger has been stubborn and annoying for the past 6 years, but until someone can tell me that fergie will leave Utd ot join Arsenal, shut up about the Wenger matter and let's support the team for the rest of the season and see where we get to Gooner for life!!!

  54. Grant

    Sep 28, 2011, 19:02 #13523

    Richard Ansell 12:30pm 28th Sep 2011 As CD rightly says I will always be an Arsenal supporter, and will be until I die Richard Ansell 14:08pm 28th Sep 2011 When I say I now have no club to support, what I mean is that I will of course still follow Arsenal.... I have turned from a supporter in to a follower In the space of less than 2 hours this guy has gone from 'supporter until I die' to 'just a follower'. Why spend so much time justifying or analysing the motives of this man? Despite what he says he was never ever a supporter. Nobody at Arsenal will be losing any sleep over his passing. No-one here need do so either.

  55. muzzlejuice

    Sep 28, 2011, 18:35 #13521

    Bit of an extreme reaction isnt it to turn your back on the club you say you support? still each to their own , i do however agree that we need an absolute stinker of a season so we can say goodbye to le boss and hopefully have a decent shake up at board level so those at the top think more about running a football club rather than a money making venture.

  56. CanadaGooner

    Sep 28, 2011, 18:24 #13520

    here we go again (@DorsetGooner) - because I've been going to Arsenal games since 3yrs old or now fly in from Canada to watch games (at a hugely significant cost) doesnt make me a biger or better Arsenal supporter than the guy who lives on Hollowayroad. I think anyone sparing their time to express what they think on here already shows commitment to the team in my opinion. In anycase, what's your point? If you ask a 5yr old he'll tell you this article is ridiculous, self-centered and isnt something worth sharing online. What does Richard want? That we'll al say: well done mate, we agree and none of us will come to the next game? Get real and grow up. We are Arsenal Fans because we support ARSENAL, not individuals. Players come and go, managers come and go - several clubs have made countless changes and only Man Utd and Chelsea have won anything tangible in recent years. Gooner for life!! I always thought Arsenal Fans are of a much higher intelligence. Let's talk about more topical things like how the club can move forward and stop wasting our time on some loner saying he's not going to support the club anymore

  57. Lee Scratch Perry Groves

    Sep 28, 2011, 18:21 #13519

    Mate you've been spoiled. You want to man up. Surely you remember worse times than this? I certainly do. And can we finally put this 'inheriting the defence' bollocks to rest. What was the back four in 2004 - you know, the team that went unbeaten? Cole, Sol, Kolo, and Ralph. Did Arsene 'inherit' them? Did he bollocks, with the exception of Cole, he bought the lot.

  58. covoteapot

    Sep 28, 2011, 18:20 #13518

    No matter how much I hate what is happening with Arsenal they are still the team that I've supported for many years and will continue to support until I suck in my last breath. I'm going to be a dad for the first time this year (fingers crossed!) and it will be with great and enormous pride that my son will be a Gooner like me, my dad and my grandad before him. Arsenal til I die!!!!!

  59. Colonel Mustard

    Sep 28, 2011, 18:08 #13517

    Personally cant wait for Wegner to be removed because thats the only way he will go, taken out by men in white coats. Still support the assembled dross left but will be much more happy with the delusional manager gone. all ill say is Diaby on 60k a week....nuff said.

  60. Mike

    Sep 28, 2011, 17:40 #13516

    By the way, throwing money at the problem is not the right solution. Look at Man City last night. Tevez refused to come on - Dzecko gave the manager a bollocking when he came off - Something very unhealthy is happening there. To add to that they still lost 2-0 to Beyern - a German side from a German League, which according to some writers on this site, is far inferior to the EPL. (Notably after we drew with Dortmund) Surprised after supporting the team for 40 years you haven't learnt to take the rough with the smooth. Still I had a wry smile on my face whilst watching Nasri and Clichey chase shadows last night

  61. Spectrum

    Sep 28, 2011, 17:38 #13515

    Remember, people - Richard is only doing this temporarily, repeat, TEMPORARILY. He's given up on the way Arsenal is being run, not Arsenal itself. Until Wenger leaves voluntarily, or is sacked. This may take quite some time yet( unfortunately ), but Richard is NOT saying he'll never be back. That WOULD be spitting the dummy. It's a TACTIC, he's using. Futile on his own, perhaps, but good on him for being concerned enough to act. " In Arsene we rust."

  62. G_man_london

    Sep 28, 2011, 17:33 #13514

    Disgraceful behaviour in my honest opinion. Most of us Gooners have had times where we are tired of the team or the manager or certain players or all at once but we stick by our team because thats OUR team, our loyalty, our life, our passion and our love. Arsenal is our love. Arsenal is not one single person or one particular thing...it is everything that emcompasseses it. I don't buy into the armchair supporter thing....your a fan or your not. That is defined by your love and passion for the team. Like your family or your wife/husband you love them. Sometimes you want to hold them tight and other times you want to leave them but you work it out and keep moving with it. You keep going. Pre-Wenger Arsenal went through some really dark times but the true supporters remained even in hope but they remained. Giving up just like you have means Arsenal FC are better off with 'fans' like you. You're not a fan, your just someone who is in for the good times but when the going gets tough you bail. Arsenal are bigger than Wenger. And believe it or not we aint that bad, we might not be Man U or Man City or even Chelsea at the moment but are players are better than anyone is giving credit. When Arsenal won the league in 1989 they won with youngsters not superstars. They went on to become stars. Men against Boys was the headline. But we did it because we are Arsenal. And we will remain the Arsenal because that is part of being part of this amazing club. I wish you luck in your search for a club, but I doubt you will find a similar club with the same prestige, class, history and quality anywhere else.

  63. Dorset Gonner

    Sep 28, 2011, 17:09 #13513

    Love some of these comments, Richard all the best mate. Dave / Pogo I see alot comments on here from people claiming to be fans critising other fans when they have had enough, have you ever been to an Arsenal game? Are you an Arsenal member? I suspect most comments on here are from arm chair glory supporters who don't actully have a clue. Anyway Pepe Guardiola's not available until next Summer!!

  64. U2

    Sep 28, 2011, 17:03 #13512

    WITH OR WITHOUT YOU~~~~ WITH OR WITHOUT YOU~~~ There's always going to be an Arsenal. Good riddance, I can't wait to see you wearing a Chelsea kit the next time Arsene wins a trophy. PEW PEW

  65. Steve

    Sep 28, 2011, 16:52 #13511

    thats it you go. you wont be missed. myself in the past year I have realised what it actuallly means to be a supporter - you support the team in good times and bad. at least this lean spell if thats what fans think it is (most teams would like to have scored 9 goals in their last 3 games)is getting rid of support the club can do without.

  66. Dan h

    Sep 28, 2011, 16:46 #13510

    What shines through in the article is you still have a passion for the club but it's been overtaken by frustration.I like many others are unhappy i have seen some terrible Arsenal teams & defeats York in the f.a cup being particularly bad!I don't go much these days 4/5 home games a season is about the average. I also don't agree with how the club is run choose not to spend your money on the club also if that's how you feel. Still come sunday 4pm i have the feeling you won't be able to turn off the emotions so easily the old gooner in you won't allow it!

  67. D

    Sep 28, 2011, 16:30 #13509

    Feel free to not support Arsenal anymore, but writing about it is a like a child throwing his toys out the pram to get attention. In moderately testing times your support for Arsenal has proven to be weak. No doubt you'll creep along to some games in the future when we're winning again. BTW Arsene Wenger, for all his faults, loves Arsenal FC. I'd say, a lot more than some of our crap, whinging fans, which we've always had a lot of. Just having been alive longer than other people and to have been going to games for a few decades does not necessarily mean you're a proper fan through thick and thin. Maybe you've gotten bored unless we're winning, because you're getting old and cranky. When Wenger does go, it will be with dignity and he'll have the respect of all TRUE Arsenal supporters, young and old.

  68. Vince

    Sep 28, 2011, 16:11 #13508

    As a gooner for a lot longer than you and the holder of four season tickets what we are witnessing at the moment is very sad indeed. I mean on the pitch and off. From the nouveau plastic fans who moan and groan when we are not winning by at least three goals to this board who I believe only view Arsenal as a business and not a football club. First thing that is needed is for this board to resign and, as much as I hate it, Usmanov to take over. David Dein needs to be brought back and that waste of space Gazidis dumped. We keep Wenger because, whatever you people think, I cannot think of a better manager out there right now. I know we have not won anything for six years but tell me this, what other manager would have kept us in the top four without money invested in the team. Do you really think that, if you can see the problems with this team Wenger doesn't, get real please. It's all to do with this crap board and money. Wenger's hands are tied, bloody obvious really or do you expect him to come out and say The board are a lying bunch of c**nts, I don't think so. He is the man at the front taking the flack, akdeit for six mil a year!! And as not being bothered any more, yes, I am disilusioned with football in general, players in particular but at the end of it all, I am still a supporter and always will be, I was there supporting Arsenal before most of the board and will be there as long as I am around, through thick and thin, angry yes, pissed off yes but still there.

  69. Dave T

    Sep 28, 2011, 16:02 #13507

    Come on everyone, if we were a league 1 or 2 (or even conf) side fan we would not be having these discussions as the loyalty always outways the sucess, so please put things into be perspective or ask the Q are you a fan or trophy hunter. In all honesty, we've been accustomed to success... For the last 15 years we have completely changed our custom to playing a higher standard of football, with silverware and world class players to boot in a new wonderful surrounding... Now with some of the pre-mentioned drying up... isnt it our job as 'Fans/Supporters/Follwers' to do just that and stand by the team.. Yes, the Bolton Win didnt make my Saturday any brighter, and i still have that empty jubilation on winning anything for the past xx years.. and im not even going to mentioned the Manc game... all the above leaves me with a heavy heart.. However, i still wear the red shirt with pride... Liverpool went through this over the last couple of seasons, and they're on the up.. Lets hope or support for brighter times, or just support YOUR team... On another note, just walking away would only have us matching the likes of Chelski and Mancs in the knowledge if they went through such poverty their fans would leave in a jiffy... COYG

  70. Daniel

    Sep 28, 2011, 15:56 #13506

    Mr Richard here was craving attention...and we have given it to him...so go on sir, you can stop crying like a little wimp and really grow up..I cant believe i spentchunk of my time to read that tripe there (no offense meant)

  71. CanadaGooner

    Sep 28, 2011, 15:44 #13505

    What a short-sighted article. I can recall a saying: 'when the going gtes tough, the tough gets going'? Is this what being an Arsenal Fan has become? people coming on here stating they've been fans since 10years old or 5 years or 2? who cares? Arsenal is a tradition and will carry on For once, I'm actaully lost for words and that shows how ridiculously this article is - we are at the start of a season, I was an arsenal fan before Arsene Wenger heard of Arsenal and will be much after he's left - the season has started and as a Fan, my duty is to ARSENAL and I will support ARENAL and whoever the incumbent manager is 100% till the season's over and then I will criticize CONSTRUCTIVELY (if I have a suggestion for a new manager, I will come on here and spend hours talking about how we should replace Arsene with that person) - coming on here to make such ill-adviced, ridiculous statements as in the above article is counter-productive and shameful. We support ARSENAL, not WENGER Gooner for Life!!!!!

  72. Hughsey24

    Sep 28, 2011, 15:38 #13504

    I do understand your frustration !! I have supported The Arsenal since 1983 and have lost all my passion !! Win lose or draw i have always been pumped up and excited about our games and now nothing but annoyance !! Basic foundations with AFC is that we dont have many players playing with passion, fighting for their team mates and looking annoyed/upset when we are losing !! Wilshere/vermaelan/RVP only !! lack of transparency by the board and AW and to say that crowds are lower due to financial problems and us not starting well is disgraceful !! Well cant they answer by saying we are going to look at helping the fans by reducing the cost of attending ? Nope they dont !! Yes money is hard to find these days but if they really think people like myself are going to pay £60 a ticket to watch average players !! pay OTT prices on food and drink to attend a match where the club does nothing to give anything back !! Yes I love and Support The Arsenal and will still watch them and be behind the team but I do understand feeling when really its the club letting us fans down and not us turning our back !! Hope one day soon I will see the passion on the pitch !! koscienly may oneday shout at team mates or look disgusted at us lettign in goals rather than head down !! Things do need to change ! We need to invest money properly by upping our wage structure slightly and go and sign passionate players who can lead us in the right direction !! with or without AW otherwise we will be sdaly left behind !!

  73. Gare Kekeke

    Sep 28, 2011, 15:17 #13503

    Richard, it's a shame it has come to this but I fully understand the stance you have taken. I'm only 31 but have been a Gooner since 1987 just before the Littlewoods Cup win against Liverpool. If only as a season-ticket holder myself I had the guts to do what you have done..........but I can't, I support THE Arsenal, not Arsene Wenger. But I agree with your article. I too did not join in with 'that song' last Saturday. My neighbour called it correctly when he labelled them hypocrites. It wasn't that long ago that some of these people were telling OGL to 'spend some f*cking money'. Well, he did, but panicked after his worst start to a season as Arsenal manager. By singing that song, the greedy, clueless, mecenary and self-centered board will soon to think OGL with worth another three years after 2014. F*ck that. I want him out now because his refusal to own up to the fact of the rank failuire of his youth project - which failed because we were intially lacking experience and then lacking players of a certain quality. But I have said it before and I will say it again, Wenger deserves credit for his overall outstanding contribution to the club since his arrival in 1996. I am amazed that the cult of Arsene (the same lot who think Eboue is a better right-back than Sagna) would rather endure a period of mediocrity under Wenger than renewed success with another manager just because 'Arsene Knows'. The Arsenal make over £200m a year and the cult of Arsene still cry poverty. Pathetic. The wage bill is more than £110m a year and apparently, we "still can't compete on paying big wagers". Well then the club should stop handsomely rewarding unfulfiled potential such as Diaby & Denilson with huge amounts of money because 'they will eventually mature into top, top players'. Yeah right. Pep Guardiola is available next year and those in the know in Spain say he is fascinated with our club because of it's set-up, which I admit is down to Wenger. Let's campaign to have a 2-time European Cup winning manager (remind me how many European trophies the great OGL has won at our club let alone his career) with us next summer. Wenger is the only manager to have lost finals of all THREE European trophies. Not exactly the hallmark of greatness. And to the t*at who slagged of George Graham, that man won us 6 trophies in 8 years. Show some respect. But then, you're a member of the cult of Arsene if you're slagging of Graham.

  74. Wengerafc

    Sep 28, 2011, 15:14 #13502

    The Arsenal are bigger than any fancy Dan owners, professuer manager or greedy b&stard palyers. I have sympathy with the author but The Arsenal will outlast all of them. We cannot give up on our club

  75. JoeBlow

    Sep 28, 2011, 15:09 #13501

    What an inept piece. Wa-Wa-Wa-Waaaaa! Get lost, we really dont need supporters like this. Arsenal is forever. Where we you between 71 & 89? Go away, good riddance!

  76. Mark

    Sep 28, 2011, 15:07 #13500

    i thought Bayern Munich were excellent last night - now there is a role model of a club

  77. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 28, 2011, 14:41 #13499

    i think it's fair to say we are all frustrated at the moment but no matter how frustrated we get a true supporter never stops supporting their team.

  78. SJP

    Sep 28, 2011, 14:41 #13498

    I am also of the same vintage as you - having nailed my colours solidly to the mast the year before the '71 Double and Charlie George was my childhood hero. I completely echo your sentiments apsrt from your deciding to 'resign' from being an Arsenal supporter. As other comments mention, in the past 40 years we have had several barren spells - remember the 1980s for crying out loud! My view is that we will fail dismally in the Prem this year - and definitely flirt with relegation. We will come off worse in both derby games and there will be other humiliations on top of these - the 8-2 merely being the first of a good few. Hopefully this will make the board sit up and take notice although not qualifying for the CL should be a big enough wake-up call for the corprate heads we are lumbered with on the board - there's nothing like losing out on a £25m revenue stream to focus their business minds. I think barring a miracle - like winning the Carling cup (ho,ho!) this will be the Prof's final season. The sad thing is that he then will be departing on a pathetic whimper - he should have left us 4 years ago when he had the opportunity to head up Real Madrid - that way his legacy as an incontrovertible Arsenal legend would have been secure for evermore. Now he will be remembered more as the one who lead us into a generation of mediocrity...

  79. Hez

    Sep 28, 2011, 14:32 #13497

    I love how there are so many bitter old arsenal "fans" harping on about how wenger is a liar and clueless. One poster has claimed it is wenger's fault we lost in the carling cup final last year (forget that it is his fault we even got there or only lost because of a silly defensive mix up) and another says he has no hand in our wins at the moment its just a consequence of arsenal (yet there are so many on here who say arsenal has allowed its manager to become the club) the invincibles side had only three players in the whole squad that were not purchased by wenger. What an absolut load of garbage!! Arsene has had to take the youth approach to buying players for 10 years because we just spent half a billion pounds on a new stadium. add to the fact that after this decision could be reversed chelsea go and spend the same money on players and wages and now city have done the same on an even bigger scale. Throw into the mixer that man u have spent well in excess of £40m nett on players EVERY year for the last 5 or 6 and there is no wonder why we are in the position we are in now. Would you rather we still played at highbury and only made a third per game we do now? how long would we have been able to compete then? The simple facts are that what we have done with the club has set arsenal up for decades to remain in the top ranks of world football. the fact these set of circumstances has come about is not just unlucky for our manager its unlucky for everyone associated with the club. had it not been for chelsea's spending we would have probably been challenging liverpool for league titles by now as opposed to united. Like someone else has said you are either arsenal or your not its that simple. If you are you will always love the club and SUPPORT the club you love.

  80. james jeffries

    Sep 28, 2011, 14:31 #13496

    what a shame to lose such a loyal and committed supporter. I'm sure the club will be devastated to lose a one time Chelsea fan.

  81. Gee

    Sep 28, 2011, 14:28 #13495

    Still think there are not enough Football men on the Board. People like Fizman and Dein could speak to Wenger and he would take their opinions on board and also be swayed by what they were saying. Now they are a bunch of old boys who are going senile with a chief exec who again is not upto scratch in terms of backbone, bowing to everything Wenger says. Wenger has taken on virtually all responsibilities of players wages, contract, structure simply becuase the others can not do their job properly. He feels obliged to put out the cones and also do the final accounts. There are not enough stron men at the club to say to Wenger "Leave this to me" but also to talk him round to believing that is the right course of action. Dein and Fizman could do that Wenger will unfortunately leave the club under more of a black cloud than when he came in to "Arsene who?" But I'm sure the board will make the right appointment when all this comes to a head next year......

  82. Spectrum

    Sep 28, 2011, 14:22 #13494

    Sad that it has come to this for you, Richard. But I fully support your action.It's an indictment of Wenger and the way he's run this club in recent years, that he's driven a loyal Gunner like you, to take this extreme path. I admire you for having the courage of your convictions. You're brave in standing up for what you believe, and making a statement of intent about it. That takes guts. Ignore the ignorant A.K.B.'s, who elevate the manager above the club.I wish more Gunners were like you. By not attending the matches, the board will get the message in the most effective way possible - through reduced revenue and half empty stadiums. And remember all you critics and A.K.B.'s, this is only a TEMPORARY parting. As Richard said, when we get a new manager, and board* (*wishful thinking ? )he'll be back. And we'll welcome you, mate. There are a growing number of us who feel the way you do. I'm one of them. Our worst start in 58 years, no chance of winning the league. And we were supposed to be challenging this season, weren't we ? Richard, I salute you for seeing it as it is, and seeing Wenger for what he is - a deluded, obstinate has-been, who's lost his mojo. " In Arsene we rust."

  83. WHL87

    Sep 28, 2011, 14:12 #13493

    The problems at Arsenal now are the problems that have been common throughout our history - the Board. I'm a few years younger than Richard - I've been going since the mid-70s, (and you think we're poor now - anyone remember Terry Mancini?!!), originally with my Dad who's been a fan since the 40s and then graduated through to going on my own and now I take my boys. The Arsenal Board never, ever invest from a position of strength. Look at the demise after the 71 double. Look how the Brady side was allowed to wither and die. Look how George's team should have gone on from the fantastic base of 2 titles in 3 years. Now look at how the greatest team we've ever had has slowly been allowed to disintegrate into what we have now. Arsenal Football Club never pay the wages their top players deserve - that is the key. My old man has always said that the Board consider the players to be second class citizens - in their opinion it is a privilege to play for The Arsenal. Well, that may have been the case way back in the day but it doesn't wash now. Dein tried to change it - he didn't want the move to the Grove, he wanted to compete on the pitch, which, let's face it, is where football clubs should compete - and look what the Board did. Maybe Wenger should've walked then, or at least threatened to. If he's guilty of anything, it's of keeping his counsel and trousering his wages, not saying anything against the "party line". I think this season will be his last - but it will be his decision and, in my opinion, he deserves to leave on his terms. I think he will have plenty to say when he does go and I do not trust this Board to replace him with the right person to take us Forward - that is the real worry. Up the Gunners.

  84. Richard Ansell

    Sep 28, 2011, 14:08 #13492

    One more comment - When I say I now have no club to support, what I mean is that I will of course still follow Arsenal, but with no real conviction. I have turned from a supporter in to a follower, which is sad for me but there it is, I can not help how I feel.

  85. who cares

    Sep 28, 2011, 14:08 #13491

    yeah, mate. you quit from the gooner and being an arsenal fan too. seriously, who gives a monkeys. idiots like you bemoaning everything are a disease on the club. go back to wishing for a midfield of McGoldrick and Hillier. Mug!

  86. Big Dunk

    Sep 28, 2011, 14:08 #13490

    Best Bank - I think you're getting the two points confused. The Board is to blame for the money issue, the point this ex-gooner is making is that he is not going to support the club anymore because of the manager (but will probably come back when the good times roll). The Club is far from perfect but you only had to be a fan in the 70's/80's to know how much the club and the game has changed. The Board are at fault for the budget and/or not pushing AW to spend the money why not put pressure on them?!?! Not a reason to 'stop supporting' in my eyes... thick n thin and all that!

  87. Tony

    Sep 28, 2011, 14:00 #13489

    "I am now in the football wilderness with no club to support". They could water-board me in Guantanamo Bay and they'd never get me to utter those words. Arsenal to the bitter ugly end i dont care who is the manager or who's on the pitch. To borrow a line from greaseball Xavi...the club is in my genes.

  88. Bob

    Sep 28, 2011, 13:56 #13488

    Tragic, sad and utterly representative of the writers seemingly chronic mid-life crisis. It makes my blood boil to read "I hope to be fully behind a new Arsenal manager ASAP." And as usual with these spineless losers does he have the balls to name who whe'd prefer as replacement? ...rest my case. I hear Steve McLaren might be available. The sum is always greater than the parts and he has just made himself redundant. P60 to be forwarded back to Stamford Bridge.

  89. Mark

    Sep 28, 2011, 13:54 #13487

    Goodbye & good riddance!! We're a better supported club without the likes of glory hunters like you! You clearly were never a Gooner anyway and have no relevance to true Arsenal supporters!!

  90. jjetplane

    Sep 28, 2011, 13:51 #13486

    Come now Rich - the fact is you love the pain which is the essence of a supporter's life. Wait til you see the kind of season Man City, Chelsea and the not so amazing Mancs have. Wheels are coming off everywhere. I've said it before - Wenger is not a football man and only the players can do anything now.Trouble is they're all bone china. Its a disease Wenger imported with boiled chicken. Bring back Alfie Tupper and Rich - you know in your heart you will be scratching words on toilet walls before xmas. Dont be a Tevez - see ya next month wwith a grin on yer boat.

  91. Mandy Dodd

    Sep 28, 2011, 13:46 #13485

    The Arsenal supporters who want Wenger out, and that is of course their right might want to question the role of the current owner and board in recent events. A billionaire who it is now clear does not like parting with money, nor will he sanction the spending needed to compete with the sugar daddies or debt ridden, or state owned, or petro dollar funded. In doing so, also question who a risk averse financially obsessed entity might choose as a replacement for an outgoing Wenger. I will give you a clue, it will not be Pep, Jose or Hiddink

  92. Richard Ansell

    Sep 28, 2011, 13:36 #13484

    Mark - I appreciate your comments and it is very sad that it has come to this. I will live in hope that Wenger's reign is fast coming to an end.

  93. T

    Sep 28, 2011, 13:34 #13483

    Goodbye! we will miss you, wait a minute no we won't, we are Arsenal fans and the sooner we get rid of the moaners and whingers the better the place will be, so real Arsenal fans lets get behind the team!

  94. Charles

    Sep 28, 2011, 13:31 #13482

    What a scare monger! From what I've read you are not a snorty mumbling teen but a mature man. I have to say I'm disappointed with the likes of you who can't see the obvious: big money has been pumped into certain clubs hence their over achieving, Man City and Chelsea. This is the reality, you either get a sugar daddy owner or play second or third fiddle period! If Wenger went who do you suggest would be the right replacement? Sir Alex? Pep? Jose? not going to happen. What about going English some may ask. Big Sam? McLaren? Hughes? I would fall on my arse laughing if one of those were given the nod. The bottomline is Mr Wenger has kept Arsenal at the top with minimal resources and if you can't see that then I am happy to auction your Gooner items.

  95. AvenellRd

    Sep 28, 2011, 13:27 #13481

    @RichardAnsell Absolutely understand your decision my friend and let me tell you you are not alone, not at all. I know of many lifelong Gooners, people in their 40es and 50es who simply cannot bring themselves to go to that soulless craphole that is E*****s, mainly because WEnger had effectively destopyed thge club. Arsenal that we knew and loved is dead. Today AFC stands for Arsene Football Cult. I went to Shrewsbury game and idiots were singing "One AW" towards r=the end of game...I held my head in my hands in embarassement...it was lowest I ever felt watching Arsenal, so many delusional people attending matches...I doubt I'll go soon... The good news is that there is a London club, currently playing in League1 that is well worth watching, They are at home this saturday against Huddersfield [wink] can't wait to watch some proper, honest football...might see you there, as I'm becoming a bit of regular over there...all the best mate.

  96. Best Bank no longer Best Team

    Sep 28, 2011, 13:21 #13480

    so many of you are still like lambs to the slaughter and dont question anything about your own club ! where did the £100M profit go from the sales of Ade, Toure, Nasri, Cesc, Clichy, Hleb ? this club could easily have spent another £30-40mpa on transfers and salaries and be breaking even or small as opposed to big profits and be alot stronger on the pitch. instead some of you are content that we are stronger on the balance sheet !

  97. Gooner87

    Sep 28, 2011, 13:16 #13479

    Very childish posts, so I take it you will stop loving your children if they marry someone you dont like...grow up

  98. Westie

    Sep 28, 2011, 13:11 #13478

    First I was angry when I read this, on reflection I am happy that a fickle supporter has now gone. You are as bad as the AKB because you are following the manager and not the club. To be fair, there are a lot of people on this forum who start with 'I started to support Arsenal..'. Hardcore Arsenal supporters have it in their blood and in their family line. I am a 4th generation Arsenal fan who was Arsenal by birth, there is no 'choosing' its a way of life in my family. I am frustrated with Wenger, and that people chant his name in some misguided attempt at loyalty...but turn my back on Arsenal? NEVER. Arsenal till I die. Good riddance.

  99. Ron

    Sep 28, 2011, 12:56 #13477

    Tom Good debate Richard has started here, but have to say matey that Cheslea were a good side in 1970/71. ECWC in 71 as i recall ad FA Cup yr before. Always a decent side then. Likeable actually, though the fans (those they had) were a right royal pile of ars----s even then. No change there!

  100. goonerjake

    Sep 28, 2011, 12:56 #13476

    I cant believe what i have just read. Let's get this abslutely straight, Wenger is not perfect, some of his judgements are off at times. However it is THE BOARD which is the problem, do you really think the transfer policy and the self sustaining policy will change if wenger leaves???? of course it wont. What will happen is the same policies being implemented by a far poorer manager.

  101. GD

    Sep 28, 2011, 12:39 #13475

    "I switched to boring old Arsenal and, after watching Charlie George secure the double in 1971, that was it: a Gooner for life." Yeah.... for life *rolls eyes* Good riddance

  102. bunch

    Sep 28, 2011, 12:34 #13474

    Don't believe a fellow 71'er can stop supporting Arsenal. When he's gone, which I think will be the end of this season at the latest, come on back. Plenty of Season ticket holders I know would love to be able to give it up and come back when Wenger has gone. But stop describing yourself as an Arsenal fan? Nah, don't believe.

  103. Mark

    Sep 28, 2011, 12:34 #13473

    Dear Richard, i for one always appreciated your comments. I am 49 and supported Arsenal since 1970, a grea year. I was born in Islington. ive been to a million matches home and away. I have shares. I have club seats. I love Arsenal. I loved Rocastle, Ian Wright, Tony Adams, Viera, Berkhamp, Henry, Cesc. the players who i saw seem to feel the same about me about my club. together we terrified other teams out of Highbury on so many occassions ! Today i am just a non believer. i think Wenger is a fraud and a liar. I think the Board are a joke and i think this year we will finish way outside of the top 4. In short i totally sympathise with how you must feel today as I feel the same. best wishes Mark

  104. Richard Ansell

    Sep 28, 2011, 12:30 #13472

    As CD rightly says I will always be an Arsenal supporter, and will be until I die, but it will now be from a distance until Wenger leaves. Of course I have had issues with most, if not all, of the managers that have been in the hot seat since 1970 (and to one contributor - I supported the club before we won the 1971 double which you would have realised if you had read my article properly) but somehow this time it is different. I am older and wiser, and feel more able to put Arsenal on the 'back-burner' for a while. I am no glory hunter which I thought everyone would realise having read my article. I don't like the way football is at the moment generally which probably contributes to the way I am feeling now. Thanks to everyone who understood what I was trying to say and as for the rest well it is water off a ducks back. Come on Arsenal for God's sake wake up!

  105. What was the point in Leaving Highbury?

    Sep 28, 2011, 12:28 #13471

    Whilst I and many others totally understand where you are coming from I don't believe leaving Arsenal for a short period is your best course of action. If you read my comments under the editors match report from Saturday alot of what I said echo's your sentiment. When I heard "One Arsene Wenger" I came to the conclusion that we need one hell of a shocking season for these idiots to wake up to what has happened. As for the board, I find them actually disgusting. That ignorant Yank can't even be bothered to open his bit fat mouth, absolute **** in my opinion. However, we need as many old school Arsenal in the ground as possible to let Wenger and the board know our feelings. Make banners and make noise and join in the BSM actions. This club is our's and we need to take it back, don't leave it to the AKB's and Tarquins. For all those that are childishly saying "go back to Chelsea" by my maths he was 9 at the time!!

  106. tom

    Sep 28, 2011, 11:44 #13470

    You have raised some good points - The main one being that we are 'sleepwalking to mediocrity'. The team is being stripped down gradually, and in 2-3 years time at this rate I think we will be a mid table club. I also think we should replace Wenger. But, you are a glory hunter and only started supporting Arsenal after we won the double in '71 - The only reason why you didn't support Chelsea was because they were crap at that time. A club is for life - You can't say you won't support them anymore because things aren't going our way. That's the hallmark of a plastic, fair weather fan. You'd definitely feel more at home at Chelsea.

  107. Big Dunk

    Sep 28, 2011, 11:20 #13469

    haha you drama queen! I suppose if we win the league you'll be back? What does that say about your support? At primary school (in the late 70's) I was the only Gooner and got mullered nearly every other monday morning for loosing but it didnt stop me. The world of football has changed but your love for a Club shouldnt. It was here before AW and will be here after... Up The Arsenal!

  108. munitionsman

    Sep 28, 2011, 11:07 #13468

    Since 1971.... I hate what we are. I despise wenger and his supporters. But I am not letting go. I will suffer through this period and watch with joy as the fans turn on this despicable man. Then he can go to PSG and Sonja and we can get on with supporting our club properly again.

  109. gunnerbriggs

    Sep 28, 2011, 10:53 #13467

    No matter how bad the management and board you do not stop supporting a club because of that. It’s difficult to see you as a true supporter. Ok, cancel your season ticket and do not buy anything that gives money to the club while Wenger continues . If enough people do that it will put pressure on them to change, and it will happen eventually. The club will be here long after Wenger and co have gone and it’s a duty of all true supporters to pass the love and support of this club on to our children, just as my Father passed it on to me. I'm not enjoying what is going on but it will pass. Born a gunner, die a gunner, end of.

  110. Dave

    Sep 28, 2011, 10:50 #13466

    Good post, I agree with everything you say apart from the bit where you're abandoning AFC as I just can't go that far although I'm so so close to. Totally fed up with the whole club, Wenger etc. and I'm beyond caring on the result, win, lose or draw these days. I so miss the Highbury days when it was fun to watch the Gooners and a hell of a lot cheaper too with genuine world class players on view. Not a penny of my money goes towards them now and whilst that board and manager are still there that will continue, I mean what will it take, relegation probably to stop the morons from singing that ridicious song every week?! As said at the start of my post, I'm at the end of my teather and only have the bare minimum of interest ATM with it all.

  111. Grant

    Sep 28, 2011, 10:48 #13465

    So you're 50 years old. You've been supporting Arsenal since 1971 (when they won something of course)and you've been a supporter for 40 years. In that 40 years it's the 6 years since 2005 (when we last won something) that has caused you to abandon your support for the club. Not the 8 barren years between 71 and 79 nor 8 further barren years until 87. Even in the period before Wenger we'd finished as low as 12th. But your patience has been tested by the 6 years in which we've reached 3 finals, a few semifinals and at least two credible but unsuccessful title challenges. Go on be honest with yourself, you weren't really a supporter at all - just a follower.

  112. Ron

    Sep 28, 2011, 10:45 #13464

    I think im maybe the only one, but im actually enjoying the struggle now. At least its genuine, unlike the last few years where the Club and media hype has made us look like title chasers when in truth we have nt been since 04. Out of this will emerge some genuine and rather more humble fans i suspect to replace the droves now turning their face on the Club. Its your choice what you do, but in truth whos the boss is irrelavant. Its the Club we follow and we ve had far worse times than this. Change will occur. It needs to occur organically though and not by rash knee jerk decsions, which Richard, with all due respect yours seems to be. Im off to the Lane at the week end fully exoecting a hammering with Ade bagging at least a brace. It will still be a day out and a few beers before and after. Im basically tired of false hopes, the opposite is quite a novelty!! You might miss it mate!

  113. CD

    Sep 28, 2011, 10:35 #13463

    To those of you who have flippantly dismissed Richard's decision, let me give you a little background information about his true passion for Arsenal. We first met in 1973 when we were both 12 years old at school and the Arsenal connection is what undoubtedly initially brought us together in the first instance, and subsequently we have been lifelong best friends. We have shared all our Arsenal expieriences both good and bad together going to countless games over the years both home and away, and even on the radio or tv when we were unable to attend. The 1980's six semi finals in a row (Liverpool FA Cup & Juventus Cup Winners Cup) will always live long in the memory as we went through every emotion possible, Liverpool were then at the height of there powers with players like Dalglish and Souness, and when we beat Juventus in Turin it was the first time ever they had lost a home game in European football, and hence the high we expierenced then was incredible, but typical Arsenal we did the hard part of reaching two finals only to lose to two much inferior teams once we had finally got there,and then to cap it all our best player Liam Brady lest to join Juventus ironically. Knowing Richard personally, take my word for it that the decision he has made is not one he made lightly, but one that Wenger and the board has driven him towards because of all the lies, greed and the catalogue of crazy decisions made, which fly in the face of reason. To then hear Wenger's name being chanted because we beat the team at the foot of the table, and a second division club basically extinguished all hope he had left in him. Those of you who chanted on Saturaday, do you not realize what message this sends back to Wenger and the board? It says we have got away with it again for another year, now how can we squeeze more money out of these gullible customers, whilst we give them nothing in return. That is effectively what those of you who have been chanting Wenger's name have done, and as Richard said it was for him the straw which broke the camels back. To those of you who have told Richard good riddance etc please ask yourself the question is HOW can someone who is Arsenal through and through be driven to this decision, rather than criticising him for making his decision. My view is that the self interested board hatred of DD made them choose Kroenke on mass, and we are now reaping the rewards of their personal vendetta as their decisions should have been based purely on what was best for the long term success of the club. Richard will remain an Arsenal fan, but simply go into hibernation if you like, as that is the only way he can deal with the current sad state of affairs at our club, as he loves the club with all his heart but simply can't take any more watching a self inflicted decline into mid table mediocrity by the incomprehensible decisions made by Wenger these last few years.

  114. Colin

    Sep 28, 2011, 10:33 #13462

    You have to take the rough with the smooth. Some days I wake up feeling angry about what is happening and others I wake up with the same blind optimism from years gone by. When the good times return they will be all the more sweeter after this baron period. I'll never tire of the feeling I get when Arsenal score a goal or win a game, even if that happens in amongst the depressing times of draws and defeats. The most important thing as a fan is to suppport your club 100% regardless of who is at the helm.

  115. Uzbek Pardoner

    Sep 28, 2011, 10:14 #13461

    No offence, but I don't think you will be missed by most Gooners. Leaving Arsenal is your decision and perhaps it's one more of those with your bent of mind should make. The crowds are noticeably more supportive of the team now that some of the Wenger haters are staying away from the games and frankly, it's a breath of fresh air. Many find it quite astonishing how ungrateful some supporters are considering Arsenal's extraordinary, scarcely believable accomplishments under Arsene Wenger. This was a period of time when English football suddenly became a means of laundering about half a billion pounds of post-Soviet Union money, which then opened the doors for similar amounts of Arab oil-dollars as well as lesser amounts from various questionable foreign businessmen such as the convicted Thaksin Shinawatra and the arrested Carson Yeung. During this time, Arsenal not only qualified for the Champions League 14 years consecutively, but managed at the same time to build from the ground up a brand new stadium in one of the largest, most expensive cities in the world. All this was done without a massive infusion of cash from questionable sources or which would have burdened the club with high-interest debt, but rather through low cost financing from a sensible asset-backed securitization. Leaving aside the three league titles, four FA Cups, and the unbeaten league winning season unique in the modern age, one should also remember that a ten-man Arsenal was fourteen minutes away from winning the European Champions League in 2006 (or a penalty shoot-out away from winning the UEFA Cup in 2000), and that Arsenal would have won the title in the 2007-2008 season were it not for the inexplicable game-changing decisions made by referees during a sequence of games beginning with the February fixture at Birmingham when poor Eduardo had his leg shattered by Martin Taylor. And even last season, arguments have been made that incorrect refereeing decisions kept Arsenal from second place (and Man City from fourth place) despite a disconsolate Arsenal's shocking collapse following the loss in the League Cup Final. And should we forget the sometimes breathtaking and always entertaining (sometimes more so for the opposing supporters) football we have seen from Arsenal? I've also supported Arsenal from the very early 1970s and the truth is, I feel rather spoilt with the Arsenal under the Wenger years. None of us are happy with what has transpired in the last few years, but in a football world that is often louche and mercenary, Arsenal is a club that has maintained its sense of dignity and decency and has done so during the Wenger years while playing with panache and success. And for those in North London who are unhappy with Arsenal's level of success, there is conveniently enough another Premier League football club just up the Seven Sisters road.

  116. Jekyll

    Sep 28, 2011, 10:14 #13460

    Wenger won't be sacked no matter what happens. There is a cult around him at board and fan level. It doesn't matter how far he drags us down from the heady heights he himself put us up to. I believe the club have been preparing for the possibility of not qualifying for CL next season by increasing ever more the profits made in the transfer market. Wenger is complicit in this as it will keep him in a job. I also think he's not too keen to sort our the injury issues at the club as it provides him with a perennial excuse for failure. He looked very complacent in that press conference regarding RVP's contract as well. Basically he can do what he wants at AFC, and he knows it.

  117. 2ndplaceisnevergoodenough

    Sep 28, 2011, 10:07 #13459

    You should never give up on The Arsenal just because of a crazy frenchman & an idiotic boardroom....I agree with feeling strange after the win v bolton, I think most people who know their football want Wenger out now, & I believe the more empty seats in the stadium and the more bad results we get will lead to it...eventually!

  118. chrisy boy

    Sep 28, 2011, 10:04 #13458

    have you ever seen those RSPA stickers on car windows " a dog is for life and not just for christmas " well my friend supporting any football team is much the same, we support them not just in cup finals or when they win leagues etc, its forever. We all know there are problems at Arsenal from top to bottom, and i for one would do anything to get my club back to where it belongs, be it arranging fans meeting , attending meetings, writing letters, or anything else that would help. Apart from the birth of my daughter and watching her grow up, it has been Arsenal that have given me my best memories and moments in my life. I also hate it when we lose, i hate the stick i get in work on monday mornings from the pricks that have never been to a game, but it is all worth it and lets face it, every dog has his day !

  119. Justanuvagunna

    Sep 28, 2011, 10:03 #13457

    We support our football team in the same way we support our families. We have rows with them all the time, don't like them at other times but one thing we can't help is always loving them no matter what happens. You are obviously not a true supporter but your first paragraph said that anyway.

  120. Harold

    Sep 28, 2011, 9:58 #13456

    Great article Richard, most people I know feel the same way. I found the 'One Arsene Wenger' chant from the muppets in blocks 5 & 6 depressing too, and people near me were looking round in amazement. I supported the team as usual on Saturday but every victory now is despite the manager, not because of him. And nothing will improve until he goes.

  121. sparksy

    Sep 28, 2011, 9:56 #13455

    After reading all the comments from people and the abuse this bloke is getting perhaps those people need a reality check here. It seems to me that he is very much an Arsenal supporter and always will be but has just given up on going to games, which given the price of tickets these days is not suprising. Besides that there are more important things in his life now like his wife and daughter and anyone with kids will agree 100% with that.

  122. Wombledin

    Sep 28, 2011, 9:47 #13454

    I completely understand your disgust at the chanting of Wenger's name against Bolton. It is surely unbelievable that a section of fans could sing that after all the diabolical **** we have endured in the transfer window and start to the summer. Those are not real Arsenal fans, they are childish, deluded morons confusing the cult of personality with the cult of our great club. You are the real Arsenal fan Richard, and you can't fool us real Arsenal fans that you have truly abandoned Arsenal. You'll be back and we understand.

  123. leo zis

    Sep 28, 2011, 9:40 #13453

    To you all giving Richard a hard time over his article, look me straight in the eye and tell me you have not felt despondent over Arsenal/Arsene over the last few years (for me the hardest was this summer...every few hours checking google for any transfer rumours...only to hear the endless Nasri/Cesc saga...Tell me, AS A FAN OF ARSENAL that you didn't feel like screaming at Wenger and the Arsenal board...If you say you are not hurt and saddened, then by all means, give Richard and his article a hard time. Another despondent Gooner!!

  124. fred

    Sep 28, 2011, 9:39 #13452

    It should be simple. Players come and players go. As do managers but Arsenal Abides!. I suppose it is no coincidence that Manure have been the most successful club when they have also been the richest or is it all down to Fergie! Because when Chelsea started spending more they won. If you hate wenger you hate wenger but to infere that he is the club makes you sound like one thick, self-centred egocentric **** who probably believes that the words you type on your blog are important! If I had a blog I would have the headline about your articel. "A man who is already dead declares that he is dead!" fred a fan since Marinello

  125. chris dee

    Sep 28, 2011, 9:39 #13451

    I understand your feelings,but I know deep down you'll still be kicking and heading every ball in every match even with Arsene in charge.I know cause I'm also sick to the back teeth of the current situation. We cannot win the Premiership or Champions League,but with careful planning and application we are capable of winning the FA Cup or Carling Cup,and either one of these would boost the fans,the players and the club in general. Looking at tonights match how many of us are not surprised that Walcott,Koscielny and Gervinho have joined the every growing Arsenal Treatment Table Club,we seem to do very well in that department. And would someone at the club tell Arsene that at press conferences reporters do not need a full blown lecture to simple questions. 'Did you overplay Wiltshire' 'No' Instead we get a dissertation by Arsene.If he spent as much energy and time talking to our defenders we would be a better team. And would someone please remind the board that we are still a second tier club in world terms behind Barca,Real,United,Bayern,Liverpool,AC Milan,Inter etc,we need to continue to grow so that we can join them.It is to the clubs eternal shame that we have never been champions of Europe especially as my dad never stops telling me that we were once the biggest and most famous club in the world.

  126. Richard Ansell

    Sep 28, 2011, 9:37 #13450

    GaryAustralia - yes I will probably keep reading the articles and yes the clubs you mention bring back some bad memories. I know it has been much worse at times and I will always look out for The Arsenal and keep tabs on how we are doing, but without any real passion any more.

  127. SilverGooner

    Sep 28, 2011, 9:37 #13449

    Each to thier own opinion and I have to admit that I am finding it difficult to get excited about an Arsenal win. I have to take issue with 'Lordted's comments - how on earth can anyone say Wenger is still one of the best coaches in the world? If only he was!!

  128. Rocky RIP

    Sep 28, 2011, 9:37 #13448

    Real Gooners Come Together as One. Real fans support their club unconditionally, irrespective of the hurt it causes. (Just ask Leeds fans who stood by them them through a double relegation.) A slight dip and you find out who your real friends are. We are ALL struggling with what's happened in 2011 and have our views on stuff we're not happy with, but this piece is utterly pathetic. Victory Through Harmony.

  129. twisted

    Sep 28, 2011, 9:26 #13447

    many people feel like you do but they won't temporarily withdraw support until the manager is relieved of his duties because their sad lives totally revolve around the club. They actually probably enjoy being fleeced every time they watch a match/renew their season ticket in exchange for mediocre football. £5 for a hot dog ? oh do **** off I no longer contribute a single penny to the club as I feel like I am being ripped off, very sad I know but I still have some love for the club even though I watch from a distance.

  130. maddo

    Sep 28, 2011, 9:22 #13446

    Wow... I am sorry you are feeling so emotional depressed about one man. Was he LUCKY with the aging defence, maybe, but his offensive players were a joy to behold? When I think if LUCKY I think of ManU. Last night I watched our 50th “unbeaten game” on Fox against ManU, which they won. We should have had two penalties - REO should have been RED CARDED, Poor Reyes... Neville was a bully. Yet they were given a penalty (Rooney). Man U winning the Treble... Bayern Munich played the better game in the final of CL, Man U wins. Last night, Basel should have buried ManU, yet they get something from the game. So many occasions, and that is what I call LUCKY. Arsenal: RVP RED CARD against Barcelona, the German RED CARD against Barcelona (Ref could have given the goal and yellow card). Arsene and Arsenal are not so LUCKY Finally, you should never abandon your club, no matter what. I disliked (NOT HATE) George Graham with intensity, for I believed he brought fraud and shame to my beloved club but here I am years later still supporting my team, my club. You just need a break... find a hobby - write a novel about the game Take up golf... it can be played whatever the weather. But Be Calm and Carry On

  131. club 392

    Sep 28, 2011, 9:21 #13445

    Completely agree.The manager /board must have been the only people in the UK who did not think Nasri & Fab would leave. He had the opportunity to sign quality replacements but refused to spend the money. The real problem is that the management of the club do not respect the supporters who pay hard earned cash to watch.They wish to run it like a mediocre business ,not competing at the top level, but not getting into financial difficulty. The only time you will get a significant change is when fans vote with their wallet.

  132. Easterngooner

    Sep 28, 2011, 9:18 #13444

    There are thinking Arsenal fans and there are unthinking Arsenal fans. For those who think:"In Arsene, We Trust"

  133. Mandy Dodd

    Sep 28, 2011, 9:12 #13443

    My parents annoyed me last night and have been doing so for a few months, think I might resign from being their daughter

  134. Sensible Gunner

    Sep 28, 2011, 9:03 #13442

    And who do you have in mind to replace Arsene Wenger?

  135. Bryan

    Sep 28, 2011, 8:57 #13441

    Personelly I would like to see the board all go, maybe bring back David Dein, then we can judge Wenger properly because we have never been big spenders with any manager.

  136. Mick Appleton

    Sep 28, 2011, 8:55 #13440

    I too am frustrated by the route the club is currently on but nothing would convince me not to support the team I have loved my whole life. Players, managers & board members come & go but my club is my club & that will never change. I am not an AKB person but I have to say your lucky comment is well wide of the mark, the Invisibles teams defence was Lehmann, Lauren, Campbell, Toure & Cole, none of whom were at the club when Wenger took over, however, I do agree that he has totally lost his way & the club will not return to where we all want it to be until the club abandons the wage structure, the determination to put profits in front of success on the pitch & makes changes to the coaching staff & possibly the manager.

  137. Guy

    Sep 28, 2011, 8:54 #13439

    What a cop out. Call yourself a fan?? Regardless of who is in charge, for 90 minutes of each match support the players in red and white! How can you just dump them until Wenger goes? This is the problem with Arsenal, too many fair weather fans. I would still go if we were in the Blue Square Prem! The club is definatley better off without "fans" like you...

  138. CHGooner

    Sep 28, 2011, 8:53 #13438

    The so called 'fans' singing that song are an absolute disgrace. Even if you hope that he turns it around ( he won't because he can't) to sing that song effectively absolved him entirely of all the messes and stupidities if the last few seasons. Do you support Arsenal or are you in love with a manager? If the former you don't have to slag him off or even take a negative view, but you should be HONEST. He has not succeeded, he does not tell the truth and he has some serious flaws. Therefore it is not in the club's interest for either it or him to believe that he is unsackable. This is the road to disaster which we are already some way down. Singing that song gives the Board and him the understanding that our support is uncritical and unaffected by performances or honesty. Neither of which should be true.

  139. Howard Davies

    Sep 28, 2011, 8:52 #13437

    Richard, you're right, enough is enough ... of this negativity I'm afraid. I sympathise, supporting Arsenal is a journey, I've certainly been through many up's and down's in recent seasons. I went through a spell post-Barcelona last year where I didn't watch matches, wanted us to lose etc. Having been there myself, I hope I can label this behaviour without calling offence, spoilt child syndrome. Take a few weeks away, a bit of DIY and you'll soon rediscover your love for your club. And if you take a look from the outside-in, you might in the cold light of day discover that Arsene Wenger isn't the villain you believe him to be at this moment, that our board's motives probably aren't the world's worst, but probably the world's best. We are a proud football club trying to do things the right way in a world where another football club are "investing" £1.3 billion. There's a greater evil, a greater disgrace at work here, you have a club you can be proud of, and fans that have been on the same journey as yourself have come back to the club and discovered the same things, myself included. Those fans aren't entirely ignorant to our club's / manager's difficulties and limitations, they're just showing faith, faith calls for believing in something beyond the evidence laid before you. I'd encourage all gooners to put away the nasty words, put away the negativity, support your club when it needs it the most, rediscover your religion.

  140. TENERIFE GOONER

    Sep 28, 2011, 8:52 #13436

    Agree Wenger has to go,but i chose to support Asenal in 1988 ,for better for worse.For me the lowest time was the Stuart Housten era.It was dire.Can't see it happening but i would like to give Owen Coyle a chance.

  141. RJ

    Sep 28, 2011, 8:44 #13435

    Richard - strongly held views clearly, and even as a sometime Wenger apologist, I found the "One AW" chant last Saturday somewhat surprising, and could not bring myself to join in . Nor could I join in "without a doubt the greatest team the world has ever seen" unless I added on "playing at the Emirates this afternoon". Perhaps it just means that the majority of the fans don't share the negative view of many who post on this site - but that is the beauty of freedom of speech and the internet. But - giving up on your support of the club seems a bit silly, and makes you sound, frankly, shallow ("No offense" as my son would say). It's like dropping a spouse after 20 years because they won't let you spend all the money on gambling or similar. I will pick up on point specifically - about RVP and his opssible departure. Which I hope we avoid, but it is somethiong we have to face up to as and a real possibility. WE HAVE BEEN ASKING AW TO BE HONEST WITH US FOR YEARS, and now he has finally come out and given us some home truths - if RVP (for example) is offered £180k or whatever by Citeh, we will not match it and RVP will be sold. This is the fact of football economics (in the absence of "fair play") - What would you rather? Get £20m for him this Summer, or let him run his contract down and go for free? Let's assume we make £30m profit before player trading each year - we can only afford to buy 2 £15mill players. We can't afford a Djeko or whatever to replace RVP. Of course, sensibly we could think about putting an extra £10m per annum in RVP's pocket to keep him, but if City want him, they will just increase and increase the wages. And do we want to pay as much for a player who will possibly miss half a season (my heart says yes, yes, yes - the boy is a genius). What should we think about RVP? Should we say "thanks for your service and good luck" - yes, but we should also say "you will not ever find a more passionate support for you personally than you have at Arsenal because to us you are a true star, talisman and hero - a giant amongst minnows - we need your performances like we need oxygen to light up the drab Winter 0-0s with a touch of genius. Go to City, take your money, but remember a little part of you will die and shrivel up when you move on - that secret place of pride and passion and utter love from adoring fans - you won't get that at City because it has to be shared by so many stars. Talk to Henry, Cesc, Nasri - see what they have lost taking the money. And that, Robin, is worth more than money. But take it, take the cash, go on". This is not Wenger's fault - this is the fault of the business football has become. I would rather mid-table medicority and living within our means than doing a Leeds. I have thought hard about it, and I would prefer fourth position each year based on hard honest scrapping rather than buying the title as Chelsea, Man City and before them Blackburn did. This is not Wenger's fault - it is the fault of the rule makers. And it started 30 years ago when they stopped sharing gate receipts equally between the teams and let the rich get richer, and the poor poorer. We have to face facts that we are no longer in the elite - but it is not Wenger's fault, it is just that we don't have a sugar daddy. And I personally prefer it that way. All the best in the future, Richard

  142. Goonerboy123

    Sep 28, 2011, 8:40 #13434

    Mate, Wenger isn't Arsenal and a lot of fans seem to have forgotten that. It's in your blood pal!

  143. malex

    Sep 28, 2011, 8:39 #13433

    Andy. Its a pity you have reached a point of no return and its your right.Life is full of ups and downs and so is soccer.As true arsenal fans, we need to build a great support system in our club.An environment of encouragement. Players and coaching staff must feel valued for who they are, NOT what they do.We all make mistakes but with a little encouragement and forgiveness miracles happen. You may find your self running for the rest of your life, for even Real mad with all the stars gets beaten and trophy-less.What would you do, kill your self???

  144. John

    Sep 28, 2011, 8:37 #13432

    Bl00dy hell, you are 50 years old, really? Try to get some councelling to help you with your selfesteem, will do you the world of good.

  145. JOEL

    Sep 28, 2011, 8:32 #13431

    You are right!The Club is being run by a deluded arrogant man who will now never be able to turn matters around.A new broom needs to sweep clean before Arsenal fall into mid-table mediocrity and lose the last of their "World Class" Players-RVP,Vermaelen and Wilshire-(A sad indictment of the current state of affairs is illustrated by the fact that only 3 such players remain in the squad!)

  146. Ronster

    Sep 28, 2011, 8:32 #13430

    Wenger could redeem himself if he swallowed his pride by admitting his youth project has fallen short,somehow apologising to the fans for previous outlandish remarks and promoting Steve Bould to sort out the defence.The board should make this clear to him in no uncertain terms.If he throws a tantrum,then a resignation letter should placed before him to sign.Wenger won't be sacked if we fail to qualify for next year's CL.His position would only be under serious threat should we become sucked into a relegation scrap (unlikely) or the fans take up arms.The abject League Cup Final defeat against Birmingham convinced me Wenger's time was up.However,should he seek 'redemption' wouldn't he deserve one final chance to turn things around!?

  147. Maximum

    Sep 28, 2011, 8:30 #13429

    For once a goner that feels the same as me. I am totally disgusted with what Wenger is doing to the club, people can't see that Wenger inherited the superb back five, since they all retired it has been shocking. Wenger has had 6 years to sort out the defence, and cannot. Also what on earth are Almunia and Squilacchi still doing at the club. Wenger needs to be sacked ASAP. Robin,Theo, and TV will not renew their contracts under Wenger. I no longer go to the Emirates, not whilst Wenger is in charge. Just ask youselfs the "in Arsene we trust brigade" how many good defenders has he signed. Toure, Cambell, Vermaelen. And that is it.

  148. ragnethan

    Sep 28, 2011, 8:28 #13428

    very self centered, very sad. good bye

  149. Nick

    Sep 28, 2011, 8:27 #13427

    Good ridance, this website has become a joke with negative post after negative post. I even gave up reading it for a few months, just couldn't put myself through it. Very pleased you will not be writing again, the club do not need fans like you bringing the mood down. You'll probably be seen at Arsenal telling enthusiastic fans to 'SIT-DOWN' spoiling their fun as well. Times are hard at the moment, we all know that, you dont kick a man while he's down...

  150. GaryFootscrayAustralia

    Sep 28, 2011, 8:20 #13426

    Bah! Richard, I get what you're saying. I stepped off the Online Gooner as well at the end of last season. I'd had enough of the circular squabbling on here. I kept on reading the articles though. Even if you're adamant about not getting involved on here anymore, will you at least keep reading? I too am fed up with the way things are playing out under the roof of Arsenal PLC, but if the words Walsall, Wrexham, Oxford, Luton and York mean the same to you as they do to me, then you'll know that we've both seen far worse than this...

  151. GoonerMAC

    Sep 28, 2011, 8:17 #13425

    Sorry to say that I find this post pathetic. If you are a real supporter you can't/don't simply stop supporting your team. Sure some of us fans have issues with the club. Different people blame different elements within the club's heirarchy and there has been something very wrong at The Arsenal for a long while now. Personally I put it down to the board. Their decision to sack David Dein was utterly stupid. Then to replace him with a team lead by Ivan Gazidis, who has proved largely useless, was an error to compound & multiply the first. AW & DD worked brilliantly together. They did deals quickly, quietly & efficiently, whether that was players in or out, and they seemed to uderstand have a high regard for each other. The relationship between AW & IG doesn't appear to be working at all and that has to change. My view would be to get rid of IG & his whole department and bring DD back to work alongside AW in transfer matters. Winning trophies is not a God given right and AW has proved what a good manager he is by continually qualifying for the CL with the inepts he has been forced to work with at board level. Finally, calling the for manager's head is fine if that's where you think the problem lies (I think it will be a dark day when AW goes, especially if he's forced out) but what fans aren't doing is putting forward any viable alternatives. So Wenger out but who do you want to come in?

  152. divingrooney

    Sep 28, 2011, 8:14 #13424

    Good riddance. You have contributed nothing to the cause of Arsenal, so commenting on Wenger is idiotic. No one will miss you, I am sure that can't be said about Wenger.

  153. Tim

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:52 #13423

    I have felt like that myself Richard and admire your honesty. Arsene has done so much for this club which we will always be thankfull, myself i do think Arsene has caused this problem himself simply by stubbly not improving the defence and favouring players who where not good enough, if this had been attended too a few years earlier i'm convinced we would have won silverware and still be a force in our league. Myself i will always support the Gunners but do not condem Richard Ansell for his views, he says all this because deep down he loves Arsenal Football Club.

  154. schmidt54

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:50 #13422

    hypocrites or just clear thinkers not short sighted whingers who fall into the tabloid BS and sensationalising bloggers who have no idea what a tough battle we are having and how great we will be feeling as we rise again. just look at the mancs struggle vs swiss champs - its tough staying up to top level performance every match

  155. kipgunner

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:48 #13421

    First time I read your article and thankfully its gonna be the last. Arsenal deserve better and objective fans.

  156. wrightydenhenry

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:45 #13420

    Good none of what you wrote was really insightful just followed the media trend 'real' fans stick with their club through good times and bad

  157. arsenal

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:44 #13419

    Ok bye then! I'd rather trust arsene wenger being in control of our great football club than you! The landscape of football has changed my friend.

  158. Andy

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:39 #13418

    That is a great post I hate wenger with a true passion but I won't abandon arsenal it's the club who i would choose my gf before lol your opinions do matter and to all those fans that sung there only one arsene wenger you are all a bunch of hypocrites

  159. aj

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:38 #13417

    The problem is the board have allowed Wenger to become Arsenal,which for those of us who despise him and the nonsense he comes out with,leaves us in no man's land.I gave up my season ticket of 35 years,three seasons ago because I couldn't stand him anymore.I still go to matches from time to time and want us to win but not with the same obsession I once had.Frankly it's all a bit sad and I would love to watch an Arsenal side with some heart and passion again.At times the club feels that it's lost it's soul.

  160. Doublegooner

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:38 #13416

    Richard, we're the same age,I've been going every season since 1966. My mates will read your article & think I've penned every word ! Your every word mirror my feelings. When the Wenger chant started a few who sit around me but don't know me by name other than knowing my total contempt for the manager turned around to see the look on my face, some of them smiling. It was then I realised this is not my Arsenal. I'm not part of the Arsene FC cult.

  161. Marty S

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:35 #13415

    It's sad you feel this way, but you do what you feel you have to. But at the same time, I think your a bit... Pathetic. It's not like we've been relegated yet. Even if we were, I would still support Arsenal. OK, it's about winning. But it's also about commitment too, and you sound like you came in expecting to support a winner. So don't sod off to The Lane, but have fun being a JCL at Old Trafford

  162. lordted

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:34 #13414

    When the going gets tough, the tough get going !!! Wanting Wenger out is silly! He may have made some mistakes (tactical and squad wise)but he is still one of the top managers in the World!!! If you think that running a football club is a child's play and especially when rich billioners run around and throw money like there is no tomorrow you are dead wrong my friend !!! Wenger has ensured we have a future as a club eventhough he realised he will have to sacrifice some players and trophies. He thought he will build a team around fabregas but he got betrayed not only by him! And now suddenly when fans should stick behind him and show him he is doing the right things , they started stabbing him in the back !!! So I'd rather tell you go support someone else than to destabilize our club more than needed!!! Good luck

  163. Goonerjon

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:32 #13413

    What a sad,deluded cliche-ridden piece.You really should have been around when the bad times were at Highbury and you would recognise that in your passing flirtation with the club you have enjoyed a pretty remarkable 38 years.Off you pop back to Chelsea where money is no objdect where manager are thrown out on the whim of a Russian oligarch and the arrogance of the supporters would be a rightful home.

  164. son

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:27 #13412

    Totally & Completely agree with this. Especially how uninterested I was about the bolton win. That says a lot.

  165. Peter

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:22 #13411

    Go support a rich team you carpet bagger & pot hunter. Leave Arsenal to the real LIFE supporters. Go back to Chelscumb, we don't need you.

  166. stegun

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:21 #13410

    Wow, what an incredible thing to put in writing. Being a fan means having your opinion about what is going. Ultimately you must to be a true fan believe that your club, Arsenal FC, will prevail. All teams go through ups and downs and I can't abandon my team when they need me most. No matter who is in charge even though I might not agree with things I will be there for my team through thick and thin.

  167. Vanmoulds

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:18 #13409

    You'll be back, buy yourself some fresh tampons, grab a nice bacon sandwich and get over it! There's only one, arsene wenger!!

  168. JollyMike

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:17 #13408

    So, you're relationship with Arsenal comes down to the manager. So banal it is. Arsenal is above any manager. We had one corrupt bastard right before him, with only a muppet in between them. But you think Arsene is the worst. I rest my case. You don't have to sing the song. Please but don't part ways with the Arse! I had to endure lot's of racism in the eighties. I hate all the biggots around in football. Just like the anti gay movment these days. I stayed with the club. I believe in the club. ARSENAL! Don't give up on it!

  169. Gordon

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:17 #13407

    Carry on dude. I know exactly how you feel as I have gone canceled my EPL TV subscription because I no longer feel agitated and hot with anger everytime we lose and also feel no exuberance when we win. The days when I'm hyped to the max in Manure vs Arsenal will no longer to found. I can't witness a "Vieira take on the rest of the Manure club" day any more in the current status of the club. It saddens me the most when Chelski feels they can loan us a player for the rest of the season with no harm done and that tells you how high or low our rivals think of us right now. Good luck Arsenal. and Good riddance Stan, Ivan, Hill-wood.

  170. Stuart H

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:09 #13406

    I can understand your frustration with the way things have been the last few years. I for one and my friends around me are convinced Wenger and the board are the problems at the club. Not one of us are chanting for Wenger. We shout and encourage the team when on the pitch. I think we will struggle desperately this season and not get into the champions league, we may even flirt with relegation as well. It is time for a change at the top and Wenger and i think the board need to be changed. However i am an Arsenal supporter and will always be one.

  171. Pogo

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:08 #13405

    Glory. I stopped reading after the first paragraph. We'll be a better club without you.

  172. Sam

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:07 #13404

    I understand you and wish I was strong enough to break free. Who wants to feel sad all the time without knowing when the sadness will stop.

  173. Dave

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:07 #13403

    Good riddance. A club is for life whether you like the manager or not! Guess you've proved that you can move your loyalties ad you've already supported chelsea

  174. Frank

    Sep 28, 2011, 7:04 #13402

    Thank you Richard! I have supported Arsenal since the 70th and I can't agree more. A quick change of owner and manager and then we can have som hope again. Now we soon to lose van Persie and we have no stars left. The team is now mediocre. We bought 7 players this summer, and only one (Arteta) who can improve our team! I'ts a bloody joke! Just leave Wenger.