Reality Check

Time to set up a new club rather than '**** off down the Lane'?



Reality Check

RVP: Does he deserve his wages?


I find it funny how some of the Arsenal support these days still find it within themselves to talk up the ‘Arsenal Way’ of doing things and how anyone who dares to suggest that going to games these days is a bit of a rip-off gets told in no uncertain terms to ‘f*** off down the Lane’.

Are we really that big a bunch of brain dead morons? Some of us really do need to wake up and smell the coffee. Ladies and gentlemen, football has moved on and it will never ever change back to what it once was - ever again. Get over it and accept that fact. Nowadays it is not simply the fact that money talks; it is now the only language that anyone within the game understands.

The love for the game of the regular everyday fan dies and it is that simple. When I was first introduced to the game of football, I was five years old. My dad got annoyed with me mucking about in the garden one evening and whisked me off to watch my local non-league side play on a cold Tuesday evening. The game was Enfield FC v Fisher Athletic and the end result was 0-0. It cost my dad £3 and I got in for free by climbing under the turnstile when the guard was not looking. I was hooked though, there and then, just by the sight of the floodlights piercing through the trees of the local playing field by the ground. Fast forward to the current day and that ground has been bulldozed years ago by then club chairman who decided he wanted to sell the place and build a block of flats on it instead for a nice bit of profit.

My first Arsenal game came a few weeks later, when we played Newcastle at home in a league game. The game ended 1-1 and Paul Gasgoigne missed a penalty for the Geordies that day. I remember my dad telling me that the guy who had missed the penalty was reported to be worth £1m. How could a guy be worth £1m and not be able to score a penalty, I remember thinking. The cost for me to get in that day was £3 and I sat on the wall down the front of the old East Stand at Highbury. I must have been no more than 3ft tall but I still managed to get a great view of the game for £3. No buying tickets months in advance on the credit card in those days. Fast forward to the modern day, and that ground has also been bulldozed years ago by the club who wanted to sell the place and build a block of flats on it instead for a nice bit of profit.

The thing is, it is not just at the top end of the game that people care too much about the profits and not enough about the on-field results and the fans in the stands. It reeks of this at every level of the game from top to bottom.

As Arsenal fans these days, we pay the highest ticket prices in world football. We get treated like mugs from the top down and even get called idiots from our very own club chairman. We question the manager and we get patted on the head and told to go away and be good children as we ‘haven’t worked half a day in football’.

A time comes when you have to say ‘enough is enough’. And if someone doesn’t feel the need to fork out £50 a game plus £35 for travel and, say, another £20 on food, drink etc, then does that make them any less of a fan than anybody else? I think not. There is a global recession on that is seemingly never ending, so at the end of the day there are more important things to be worrying about right now than whether or not RvP will be picking up yet another injury away on international duty.

Too many people at our club earn a fortune for very little work, and that includes the manager, the coaching staff and the players. It has got to the point when you don’t even have to be that good to ask for a more lucrative move elsewhere. Flamini, Hleb, Adebayor and Nasri - what do they all have in common other than the fact that they all left the club for more money elsewhere? The answer is they all won f**k-all whilst they were at Arsenal. Did they propel us to such great heights that they deserved a better contract? Did they, f*ck. They are all average players who came from abroad, had no connection whatsoever with Arsenal FC other than with their bank accounts, and then left as soon as they realised they could add a couple more zeros to those account balances with a move away from the club.

As an Arsenal fan, I have to say I couldn’t give a monkey’s if RvP does not feel the need to sign a new contract. He has been at our club for years, never completed a full season in his life and has a mediocre goals ratio per season, maybe 15 per season, top whack. His salary must already be in the £90k a week bracket and if he is not satisfied with that, then bye-bye Robin. In my eyes he doesn’t deserve what he is getting now, let alone anything more. The guy is only still at our club as we accept his injury failings, whereas any genuine top team would have got him out the front door years ago, as he never manages to complete more than half a season without taking months off due to a ‘minor knock’.

Our current keeper plays a handful of decent games and then talks himself up as possibly being Barcelona-bound at some stage. I have got news for you: the guy is a young, unproven keeper who has a tendency to make big howlers in important games. Simply because the couple of keepers who have played before him between the sticks since Jens left were so awful, he looks like a superstar in comparison. In reality, he is an average keeper at the top level of the game at best. We need to get real as fans, and realise the reality of the current situation at our club.

There is currently just one player out of the entire first team squad who I would care about if he decided to leave, and that is Jack Wilshere. The reason for this is simple: he is young, he has been brought up at the club, and is English with a try-as-hard-as-I-can type attitude. He might not have the skills of a Messi, or even a Cesc, but I would take him over the latter every day of the week as things stand. I want to see more of this spirit at our club in the years to come, and the only way this will happen is if the current manager and back-up staff leave as soon as possible. Take their ideas and tippy-tappy football with them and go run a Starbucks instead with their wonderful self-sustaining models of financial mediocrity. They would swap the cream in your coffee for milk, import it from some second-rate French farmer and charge you twice the price for drinking it.

In my mind, when AFC sold Highbury and moved down the road, they sold most of the tradition of the club that had been built up for many a year. We were sold a lie that made us fans believe that it would be worthwhile in the long run for the greater good of the club we all support. This has not happened.

Other clubs’ supporters have grown frustrated with the way the modern game has gone, and set up their own clubs as a response and have been successful in what they have achieved in doing so. Look at the recent teams started up in Wimbledon and Manchester for proof that it can be done and done well.

Why can’t we do the same? Woolwich Arsenal FC anyone?


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  1. Dave

    Oct 21, 2011, 10:59 #14409

    Excellent post apart from the 'Chesney is average' I think he's pretty good myself and hopefully he'll be a top keeper for us in years to come. I totally agree with how football is nowadays, profit before success and it sickens me. I'm not 'in love' with the game anymore like I used to be when growing up (mid-80's) and a return for safe terracing is exactly what the game needs to stop it killing itself with all the corporate **** that comes with it now.

  2. maguiresbridge gooner

    Oct 20, 2011, 18:38 #14397

    @ moscow gooner i dont know if you have actually ever been in club level if you say you have i suppose we'll just have to take your word for that.Well i have been as my mate has a season ticket. Yes there blokes in suites who may be more interested in entertaining clients but i can tell you there is as many die hard fans there as anywhere else in the ground.Die hard fans i met and know in club level only took tickets there as they were easier to get than having to wait ten years for one anywhere else although that has now changed.Does the fact someone can afford a club level ticket make them any less a supporter ? I have sat in nearly every part of the ground and there are many fans there more intersted in scoffing burgers and hotdogs than watching the match. As replacing it with terracing wake up and embrace the twenty first century football has moved on.

  3. Moscow Gooner

    Oct 20, 2011, 17:01 #14395

    Dial Square FC anyone? A further suggestion: rip out the club level seats/boxed and and replace them with 'first come, first served' terracing - no pre sold tickets. Since the 'massive revenue' apparently generated by this part of the ground seems to have zero impact on our ability to retain or buy decent players we might as well at least see this area occupied by real fans who average more than seven and a half minutes actually watching a game as opposed to eating prawn sandwiches...

  4. Ron

    Oct 20, 2011, 14:18 #14389

    Im always surprised at people still talking about Flamini from time to time. He was the real Mc Coy, Mr Average in truth. A very pedestrian, ordinary performer who never bossed any other teams midfields. Yes, he would run and pester oppoonents, but when faced with quality he was the real headless chicken. Ive never criticised AW over allowing him to slip the nest. As for offering him a quality contract a year before he left, Why? He hadnt done anything before that final season when he clearly was only playing for his move. Hes was just a harrier, a pest on the pitch who just happened to have a little run in midfield and it suited him better than being a 'jack of all trades' but far from master of none type. He wasnt good enough for us, pretty much how Song isnt now, how Diaby isnt now and how Rosicky isnt now.Ive even seen some on here saying we shoulddt have sold Eboue and Denny and allowed that waster Bendtner to leave! The same blinkered types who lament the likes of Flamini's departure im sure. To even think of these type of players as Arsenal standard is a sign of the modern younger fan, particularly those who saw no 'live' football before 2005. Theres been too much dross having too many games and being given too much time in the squad for far too long. At least Wenger is seemingly but gradually de drossing us. Please allow him to do it and forget mentioning dross like Flamini. Look at him now perhaps! Hardly a euro heavyweight is he!

  5. Mark from Ashtead

    Oct 20, 2011, 13:52 #14386

    Don't necessarily agree with everything you say here (particularly the comments about RvP) but absolutely defend your right to express how you feel. Many fans are uneasy about the ways in which money distort the things that they love most about the game. Not sure my answer to any of that would be to desert the "real" Arsenal, but an interesting viewpoint nevertheless..

  6. tom kingsbury

    Oct 20, 2011, 13:05 #14385

    good article, but i think you'll find we sold adebayor rather than the other way around. Flamini's dad has italian heritage and if we had offered him a contract the summer before he left rather than asking him to prove himself, we wouldnt have been competing with milan. Same old arsenal, leaving it to the last minute and taking players for granted

  7. allybear

    Oct 20, 2011, 12:04 #14382

    Great article Hampshire and i fully agree. I couldnt care less if RVP leaves as i didnt care when Fabregas&Nasri left. Whilst it probably was for money reasons i think that players want to win trophies as well and its obvious that Arsenal wont win any trophies soon with the shambolic board&management in charge.I have said before that a lot of the blame has to go to Wenger and i stick by what i said that he needs to be replaced. His time is up.

  8. 2ndplaceisnevergoodenough

    Oct 20, 2011, 10:23 #14375

    Great article, nice to see a bit of realism on here. i visited ashburton grove last weekend and while running in to the ground late couldnt believe the amount of prawn sandwich munching 'fans' in club level who didnt even seem to know the match had started inside! When I visit now I never get the same buzz i used to get at Highbury.

  9. Arsemart

    Oct 20, 2011, 9:56 #14372

    Sparksy - I never got over the loss of the Starlight Rooms.

  10. Matty S

    Oct 19, 2011, 23:51 #14360

    THis is beyond realism mate, its abject pessimism. According to you then, nothing is good. I don't think you should "f**k off to the lane" because I wouldn't force such a miserable know-it-all on even The Spuds.

  11. Glad Gunner

    Oct 19, 2011, 18:24 #14358

    You start by saying that it is unfair when fans complain that they are told to "go down the Lane". You then end by saying you think it is best to not support the club and set up another club! Fans are telling those that themselves say they want to resign and follow Stevenage/Watford etc., that perhaps that is what they should do as they no longer are in love with Arsenal. Whilst the game has changed, it has to be recognised that financially it is no longer a level playing field. Perhaps some people are so entrenched in their negativity that it has become a lifestyle. Some are even now complaining we sold Eboue! Szczesny and RVP are showing commitment to the club and class on the field. What will it take for fans to get behind the club?

  12. Danny M

    Oct 19, 2011, 18:05 #14357

    Some of it I agree with. However with RVP's injuries aside he's still has the best goal ratio in 2011 in the premier league. He has turned into a fine player that many clubs would happily take off our hands. I couldn't give a toss if most of the others left. Average.

  13. Zonal Marker

    Oct 19, 2011, 17:51 #14356

    Where do you think we'd be this season without RVP and Szczesny by the way?

  14. sparksy

    Oct 19, 2011, 16:34 #14352

    I too saw my first game at Enfield many years ago and had some great times watching the best team in non league football as a kid. An FA cup run to the 4th round where i took in my first away game at Port Vale, then we lost to Barnsley at WHL in front of 35,000, countless titles and FA Trophies at Wembley, finishing top of the conference year after year but football leagues closed shop stopping us getting promoted and then twice being stopped due to "financial irregularities" by a spiv of a chairman who, in league with Enfield council sold the ground for a retail park and run off with the cash, even though the club were told they wouldn't have to move until a new ground was found. Only this season after roaming from ground to ground around North London and Herts for the past 15 years have they finally found a home very close to the original thanks to the very hard work of the supporters. So yes i couldn't agree more with you if i wrote the article myself, only Chesney is a top keeper so on that front i disagree. But the best post ive read on here.

  15. jambo

    Oct 19, 2011, 15:46 #14350

    maybe just pop e few vallium hampshire gooner? that might help!

  16. Ron

    Oct 19, 2011, 15:02 #14347

    Have to say that i can agree with much of this. Me too, on RVP. If he goes, he goes. Couldnt really care less. The Club is always bigger than any one player, however classy (when fit!). Truth is, had he have been anything other than a fitness liability down the years, he'd have been gone years ago so im none to fussed if he exits now just because hes managed to stay fit for more than 2 months for a change.He ought to think of that if hes entertaining thoughts of 'Barca' (I hate the very name of that Club).

  17. Terry

    Oct 19, 2011, 14:39 #14344

    You are absolutely right in what you say. Football is not what it used to be. I first went to Highbury in the early seventies and I hate the way money has spread like a cancer through the game. I still support Arsenal but not with anything like the passion I used to, and that has nothing to do with the lack of success and all to do with my feelings towards football in general. I certainly would not pay the rip off prices Arsenal demand nowadays and like you say that does not make me any less of a fan then those that do still cough up. No doubt you will get a lot of stick from some of the morons that frequent this site but rest assured most of the real football fans know where you are coming from.

  18. Gunner666

    Oct 19, 2011, 14:38 #14343

    That is one of the best posts I've read on this site.I think you will get pummelled by some of the Playstation groupies on here but I enjoyed it, thanks.

  19. Tony Attwood

    Oct 19, 2011, 14:30 #14341

    After Woolwich Arsenal left the Manor Ground in Plumstead a new team was installed there - Woolwich FC but they didn't survive - you could revitalise them. There was also Woolwich United FC which pre-dated Royal Arsenal and which according to some accounts mutated to form Royal Arsenal in 1886. But Woolwich Arsenal FC still exists - in fact the ultimate shares that are traded in the club are the shares set up by Henry Norris in 1910 when he bought the club and tried to merge it with Fulham. There are other holding company names, but check with Companies House: Woolwich Arsenal Football and Athletic Club Ltd is still there, and that's us, the Arsenal. Tony Attwood (Arsenal History Society)