Another win on the road!

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Another win on the road!

RVP: The goals just aren’t stopping


It’s interesting to get a perspective on a game from an outsider. Sometimes we Gooners are so entrenched in our views we can’t see the wood for the trees and fair assessment goes out of the window. A Norwich fan emailed me yesterday evening and said, “Sh*t, you are good! Should have been 5 or 6 to 1 really”. An Arsenal fan however, bemoaned our lack of clinicism in front of goal. So the same conclusion about the result but a critical take on it.

For me, a win’s a win. I can even take Mertesacker’s gaffe because, in the greater scheme of things, it didn’t cost the team, and hopefully will be a lesson learned. Arsenal’s obsession with possession has long meant the option of Row Z has been rejected by defenders. Fans know it has a time and a place and it doesn’t have to be injury time of the second half. The philosophy of keep the ball at all costs can cloud football judgement and I do not doubt there will be future instances where the price is paid. It is an aspect of Arsenal under Wenger that we have to tolerate in the hope the team will compensate at the other end.

And finishing aside, they more than did at Norwich. Constantly probing, opportunities were fashioned and it is fair to say the team could have been three up before the Canaries’ opener. Still, at least there was plenty of time to put things right, and with the form the front three and Ramsey were showing, you always had the feeling that justice would be done. Theo Walcott is finally delivering on the promise which cost the club dear in January 2006. A neutral pointed out to me that he enjoyed such a fine game because of the quality of the left back he was up against, and there may be en element of truth in that, but for now, my hope is that Theo can prove doubters such as myself wrong on a consistent basis. It would be typical if he finally came good in what could prove to be his final season at the club, with the signs indicating he will move next summer.

There is little that can be said about Robin van Persie that his goal stats do not tell you. It is astonishing to think the guy is possibly not even playing in his ideal position, and it also demonstrates how much the team has suffered over recent seasons from his cursed injury record. He’s a real case of what if.

In midfield, there looks greater solidity with Arteta’s experience and Ramsey’s industry. The season saw a bit of a false start with the late purchase of the Spaniard, Ramsey’s need for a run of games to find his form and Song’s three match suspension. Only the Ramsey situation is blameless, but the other two were a result of abdication of responsibility by the manager (in Arteta’s case) and the player (in Song’s). At least things in the centre have come good in spite of Jack Wilshere’s absence, but it is frustrating as hell to know the club’s title chances took a hell of a battering in the opening month of the season because people were not doing their highly paid jobs responsibly.

A word for Laurent Koscielny. The biggest compliment I can make is that I didn’t even notice him at right back, which means he was doing his job efficiently. Djourou has demonstrated that centre backs can’t always adapt to the full back position, but Koscielny didn’t try to be Bacary Sagna with overlapping runs and played it simple. With Andre Santos’ tendency to play higher up the pitch than is sometimes advisable, Koscielny actually strengthened the backline with his conservatism. Arsenal tend to use their full backs for attacking width, but the lack of a supporting right back near Theo Walcott may have actually meant he played a better game, with less to think about in terms of options.

Arsenal are on a decent run, and so they should be with a sequence of winnable games, Chelsea apart. They do need to start winning on the road regularly, and it must be hoped that wins like this breed greater confidence, with points up for grabs at Wigan, Villa, Fulham and Swansea in Arsenal’s next five away Premier League fixtures. The other is at Manchester City, and anything there is a bonus. At this stage, my main hope regards the league leaders is that they do not match the Invincibles’ achievement, as actually challenging them for the title is still a bit of a pipe dream. But if the team keep winning, people will start to believe. And then we have springtime…

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  1. ppp

    Nov 23, 2011, 3:09 #15261

    This new side is much better than the boring old crap we've got used to for a few years. The new signings have made things look better as far as i'm concerned. It's a shame we completely embarrassed ourselves starting the season but the way they've got it together recently is really strong so they really really deserve our support. van persie's Arsenal is already way better than cesc's ever was. cesc's barcelona Vs van persie's arsenal would be massive this year. i hope it happens cos i reckon we'd win.

  2. maguiresbridge gooner

    Nov 22, 2011, 13:38 #15245

    ed you forgot to highlight how many times we gave the ball away then maybe win it back and give it away again as you said a win's a win and it was a good win but improvement is needed on above.

  3. Radfordkennedy

    Nov 22, 2011, 9:50 #15240

    @Redboy....dont know how old you are but i can catagoricaly assure you that Big pers is NOT the worst centre half in the clubs history,ive had the misfortune to see John Roberts(who still is the only Arsenal player ive ever seen top the ball when taking a free kick!!),Jeff Blockley and Terry Mancini all wear our shirt as well as the legend that is Gus Caeser who incidently couldn't play football with a gun to his head

  4. Peter Bai from China

    Nov 22, 2011, 2:27 #15232

    If Gervinho can shoot a little beter, we could get 3 or 4 goals in this game. Anyway 3 points is the 1st priority.It was a good news that Liverpool beaten Chelsea cause I think Chelsa is our main competitor for the top 4, as well as Spurs and Manchester borthers,but without Liverpool. What do you guys think??

  5. Gee

    Nov 21, 2011, 14:13 #15197

    Completely agree regarding our early season form being down to gross incompetence by Manager and Board. I suppose we are where we are now, but I hope we don;t end up losing out on 4th by 3 points at the end of the season. Yet again I think we are in for a huge summer with Walcott and Van Persie potentially moving on. If this happens I'd fully expect Wenger to resign as he alluded to in his L'equipe magazine interview. I suppose all that depends on what happens over the next 6 months and who knows if he does strengthen in january and we win some silverware, get into CL next year and strengthen again in the summer VP and Walcott could be persuaded that Arsenal really are looking at more than just 4th every year.

  6. GoonerRon

    Nov 21, 2011, 13:09 #15195

    What is it with the continual stream of definitive, absolute, matter of fact statements about some of our players? 'Santos CANNOT defend, Mertesacker is CRAP, we have NO options up front if RVP gets injured.' They are all so sensationalist and just not in tune with reality. Santos actually can defend - I personally saw him win four one-on-one's with Sturridge / Bosingwa in the second half against Chelsea. He absolutely should work on improving his defending, but he can defend. Mertesacker isn't crap - he is a foreign defender who has come into a different league and played 8 games for crying out loud. So we're writing players off after 8 games now are we? Good job we didn't sell Bergkamp or Henry after their less-than-impressive opening fixtures for us. Likewise, I suppose SAF should have sold Evra and Vidic after they initially struggled with this league? The BFG is an established and accomplished international defender and will keep improving. As for our options up front and people saying we need to buy, buy, buy in January. RVP is clearly our best striker at the club, by a distance, and when he is fit we will start 90-95% of games in the league and CL. With the system we play we only have one central striker so I'm not convinced another player would want to come in knowing they are unlikely to play many games. RVP is on such good form that short of buying Messi or Ronaldo there aren't many who would come in ahead of RVP in the pecking order. We have Park who is settling in, plus Chamakh - both of whom are options. Plus we hear a lot of people saying Theo should play through the middle, plus Gervinho can play there too - so they are options 4 and 5 and both wide positions are coverable with Arshavin, AOC, Rosicky, Benayoun. We are in good place at the moment so let's not be too hasty in writing off our players.

  7. Mike

    Nov 21, 2011, 12:47 #15194

    Agree with the concerns about lack of goals from elsewhere, but at least it seems as though there is a good understanding between Walcott and RVP. Hopefully this enables Gerv time to find a finish from somewhere, at least he is getting into goal scoring positions. Team is really performing well just need to strengthen subs bench - Wilshires and Sagna return will do that

  8. Gman

    Nov 21, 2011, 11:56 #15189

    Mertesacker was laughable in letting Norwich in to score, and it seems this comedy of errors in defence continue to happen. When will the board give the manager some decent money and tell him to go out and buy a proper central defensive partnership and negotiate salary differentials? Or else we’re going to lose our top striker at the end of the season and then we will be truly in the merde if we can’t score more than we let in!

  9. Gary

    Nov 21, 2011, 10:58 #15183

    I still believe we are short in 4 positions and they have to be addressed before we can talk of turning any corner.1.LB we have two players one who is forever injured and when he does play he is a clone of Clichy,Santos just cant defend however good he is going forward.Get Baines in.2.At CB we have TV and Kos as 1 and 2 but back up is Mert who is as slow as an oil tanker and the hopeless Squillaci and Djourou.Get a quality CB with pace.3.I am still not convinced of Song at DM the amount of times he gives the ball away and gives away stupid fouls in dangerous positions shows what a liability he is.We should have signed Parker.Upfront we are desperatley short of cover as everyone has said an injury to RVP and the season is over.Chamakh and Park will not score enough goals.So the results have been good but at the moment we are pappering the cracks.

  10. Merse69

    Nov 21, 2011, 10:12 #15180

    A hat trick of goal line clearances by the 24th minute, 10 wins in 12 and the support cast to RVP playing better by the week. Time to give Wenger some credit for turning things around. And take a look at Chelsea if you still think the grass is greener....

  11. sparksy

    Nov 21, 2011, 9:49 #15179

    We're on a good roll at the moment but if RVP gets injured where are our goals coming from. Much to much reliance on one player. We badly need other players to chip in with their share of goals because if they don't then we will struggle to stay where we are.

  12. Grow some confidence in your team... oh and balls too

    Nov 21, 2011, 8:40 #15178

    still reading negativity above.... you so called Gooners need to shutup and support your team.. We have arguably one of the top 5 strikers in the world right now, Vermaelens back, walcotts confidence is back thanks to RvP.. koscielny is in great form.. song (what idiot said he isnt playing well pfftt) is as solid as ever.. and gervinho whilst not clinical in front of goal constantly threatens the last line of defenders.. I hold my breath everytime he runs at helpless defenders.. We have a GREATTTTT keeper.. that bad start to the season was so needed for this arsenal side to wake up.. and wake up they have.. so in their wake you shyt fans need to shutup..

  13. Mike

    Nov 21, 2011, 8:11 #15177

    Another 3 points in the bag - 5th win in a row -relegation form, I think not - Norwich away was a trickey game and potential banana skin - Dortmund this week will be a good test - hopefully we can prise the likes of Goetze away from them - well done to Arsene and the team for their recovery and long may it continue - the likes of Chelsea and Newcastle are about to fall out of the top four making space for us

  14. GaryFootscrayAustralia

    Nov 21, 2011, 2:48 #15176

    Redboy, there's a job for you at The Sun. Off you go.

  15. Website Editor

    Nov 21, 2011, 2:02 #15175

    GoonerOz - Theo has apparently employed Darren Dein as his agent. The same Darren Dein that was the agent for Thierry Henry and Cesc Fabregas. Whatever happened to those guys...

  16. What was the point in leaving Highbury?

    Nov 20, 2011, 22:30 #15173

    Thought we played pretty well overall and there's no doubt that a five or six scoreline wouldn't have flattered us. Was anyone else fuming withvgervinho after we scored our equaliser. What the **** was he trying to do, thank god rvp was behind him. However, I still don't think our problems have been sorted. Pers was shocking, he runs like he's wearing calipers and was badly bullied by a championship player. Santos is just shocking. Eventually we will get found out again because you can't bluff defending over fifty odd games. Obviously we are far too reliant on Robin, no pun intended. However, the good news is this could all be solved in January by spending some decent money on top proven talent. A new stricker, left back and centre half with jack coming back and who knows. Can't see it though. That's the worst thing about this run it convinces wenger that everything is ok then cue our usual collapse post febuary, hopefully wenger has learnt from the last four years, then again

  17. Thomas

    Nov 20, 2011, 21:12 #15172

    @redboy how long have you supported Arsenal?The Mert is a long way from being the worst.Just to remind you Ceasar Stephanovs Cygan Silvestre Squillaci and Djourou have played CB

  18. GoonerOz

    Nov 20, 2011, 19:41 #15171

    Kev - What have you heard about Theo contract or is this just scarempngering after a positive day at the office?

  19. redboy

    Nov 20, 2011, 19:26 #15170

    Is mertersUcker the worst ever center half we had its got to be close

  20. GaryFootscrayAustralia

    Nov 20, 2011, 19:05 #15169

    Mandy Dodd - totally get what you're saying, but I'm going to hold off talking about the return of Wengermojo until I see some new silverware...

  21. chrisy boy

    Nov 20, 2011, 18:57 #15168

    i would like to think that all of us that write on these blogs all want the same outcome for Arsenal, and that is success or at least challenging for the top honours, i for one have been having a dig at wenger and the board for there lack of ambition during the close season. Im sure all those of us that doubting wenger would like to be proved wrong, but now we have got ourselves on a decent run of form, surely the powers at be at the club should see that a good bit of business in the january transfer window could make all the difference to the rest of the season,, get rid of the 4 or 5 players we all know are just not good enough and bring in 2 or 3 players that would give us that extra something that would help us achieve a further 9 or 10 points in the league or a round further in the cups, come on you gunners ! ! !

  22. Viking

    Nov 20, 2011, 17:54 #15167

    Can someone please provide their opinions on Pers Mertsaker? I have real doubts about him, he worries me, whenever he is under pressure he crumbles. He looks lost, than god TV is playing and Kos too to bail him out in this game and others in the past. We have to sign Cahill and get rid of Seb and Pers. We cannot afford to accomodate these average players. How and why did we sign him, it's bad judgement and totally incompetent.

  23. Treble Double

    Nov 20, 2011, 17:31 #15166

    We looked up for it from the first to the last minute and even though we suffered another defensive f@** up and missed plenty of chances to make the game safe, it was a good day at the office. More difficult games to come, but on a great run at the moment which can only help the confidence and developing team spirit.

  24. Ramgun

    Nov 20, 2011, 17:07 #15165

    Wenger is downcast because his ridiculous vanity project blew up in his face in the final three months of last season and during the summer. However, because the players who have come in have not been ludicrously over-protected and have not spent years keeping the ball without winning anything, we have actually started to play proper football again. It is no longer a crime to reach the opposition half in less than 20 passes. Wenger could be saved by this team but there are two problems. Firstly Wenger could use improved results to avoid trying to make the signings he should in January and secondly Wenger doesn't regard this as his team. He had a dream and it crumbled and he clearly has less feeling for the current line-up. Wenger seems to have a need for everyone to owe their careers to him and the recent signings obviously don't. Bergkamp didn't regard Wenger as being brighter than he was and their's was an uneasy alliance. The fact is that Wenger has never won a single trophy in 15 years with Arsenal without Bergkamp. Ferguson has no fancy ideas and admits mistakes (Taibi, Kleberson, Djemba-Djemba) and if Wenger can just concentrate on results he might just find that the current squad can do better than the soft, gutless ballet dancers of recent years. Two problems on the horizon are Van Persie's injury (let's pray not) and the eventual comeback of Arsene's favourite - Diaby, who is the worst player in his own half of the field both with and without the ball that I have seen in an Arsenal shirt in over 50 years of support.

  25. Mandy Dodd

    Nov 20, 2011, 16:59 #15164

    Good result against a tricky opponent. Wengers comments were interesting, we now know he will see out his contract, now has the stomach for a fight, and uses the word love for the club. But it seems he doubted himself over the summer. Still, since then, his Churchillian call to arms, the fans and players responding, the emphatic support of the board, and what do you know - he has got his mojo back. Arsenal fans as a whole deserve credit, some wanted them to call for Wengers head, who knows, such an action could have led to him quitting in the dark days of last summer, but there were no significant protests or calls for his head, instead, the vast majority of fans made a point of backing him and the team, and in doing so, may have help keep our most successful manager, and probably some of our current best players at the club. We are lucky to have this manager and some of the loyal fans we do have. I am not knocking those who have gripes born out of true passion for the team, however, those who for various reasons sought to drive out our most successful manager, sought to divide the fan base, thought you could through some form of direct action, change ownership and bring in Dein / Ancelotti / O Neill / Moyes / Coyle or whoever, you have failed, that much is clear even at this stage of the season. If you are Gooners,wherever you fall on the spectrum of opinion, may as well back the team now, they aren't as bad as some would have you believe, and loyal fans have shown this season, they can make a positive difference

  26. tom kingsbury

    Nov 20, 2011, 16:00 #15163

    i would say that koscielny was actually far more advanced than you suggest, particularly in the first half he overlapped or offered support to theo, however he was more reserved in the second. overall a good win in a game i expected us to lose or draw.

  27. DW Thomas

    Nov 20, 2011, 15:27 #15162

    We should probably give Arsene some time to see if he can really get this team to compete for a trophy and at least finish top 4. However, if he is already making comments about leaving this summer and can't stomach the fight he put himself in, then maybe he was always only a fair weather coach. Who wouldn't win titles with a team like the Invincibles? If he is all the AKBs think he is, he should relish a fight and not talk about how it is the club of his life one minute and that he could leave the next. What a load of bollocks! We can only wait and see how the season progresses through to May. If he doesn't buy in January and we fail again, it might be time to go. Anyone can see we still need a stronger bench and a creative midfielder a la Cesc. Someone that has vision and real spark going forward. Maybe Wishire is that man, but if he's not back till January, will he be able to do it for us this season? I think not, given how long it takes to get players back to full level. Goetze or Hazard and another striker and good defender to solidify the bench for a long season. Anything less than this is unacceptable. Kevin is usually measured and spot on imo, and if you read enough Arsenal blogs and news out there, look at the last few seasons failures, he is justified in his words about the manager. Wenger needs to show some mettle for the fans and his players. It is the tough times that makes you stronger and builds character. We are improving, but no way are we where we want to be. Listen to RVP in his comments this season about strength and hard work. That is how Wenger needs to think and talk.

  28. michaeljpoole

    Nov 20, 2011, 15:25 #15161

    Now you are going to accuse me of sounding a bit like a mad man, but.... This team is the nearest i have seen to be playing like the invincibles, by this I mean no more tippy tappy trying to walk it into the net. You watch a video from 2004 that is not how we scored goals. We have wingers like freddie and Robert who can now score goals. We are not going to win the league but all of a sudden I feel a lot more comfortable I really believe the last 2 years we played quite boring football it was so so slow but for the first time in a while we have some speed back in our game and I like it. I just wonder if there was a big struggle at board level why it took so long to buy those players this summer

  29. The Treasurer

    Nov 20, 2011, 13:56 #15159

    I think that this is the best turnaround i've seen from any football club in years. Especially as it has happened in a space of a couple of months. I'm not saying that things are perfect, far from it in fact, but to be consistently winning like we are at the moment, considering the awful start that we had, is amazing! A lot of credit has to go to Arsene Wenger for this.

  30. Guy in Jersey

    Nov 20, 2011, 11:45 #15158

    Pete - you have the gall to criticize the writer for "some unbelievable comments" and then promptly make some stupidly unbelievable comments of your own. We did f*ck up the transfer window, so please take your head out of the sand. If we'd acted promptly and intelligently (and showed some balls) we could have added much better quality to the squad, instead of just filling in some gaps. (I was happy with Arteta though) Secondly, if Wenger leaves it is not an "unmitigated disaster". There was a great club here long before Wenger and there will be one long after he's gone. He's done a fantastic job, but his departure would not be the end of the world. No-one is indispensable and you're an idiot if you think otherwise.

  31. Viking

    Nov 20, 2011, 11:27 #15157

    Great result. It was tense at the end, we never look comfortable with a single goal lead, with our tendancy to bomb forward and leave open spaces on the wings. Santos take note. I think it was Spunky who said someone needs to have a word with him and tell him to stay tight and not give the opposition any opportunities especially when the game is in the balance. Pers is awful, he's no good, I've seen enough of him to suggest he is an accident waiting to happen. He looks slow, indecisive, cumbersome, weak and does not inspire confidence. I don't think he has had a decent game yet. He's already cost us goals. Can Kyle Bartley be any worse? Even Djorou would be less risky!! Ramsey is playing well, I always said the kid needs time after his injury, now he is beginning to come good and show us all what he is capable of. Long may it continue as he can only get better. TV and Kos for first choice centre backs. Sell Seb amd Pers and buy Cahill in January. Also, please sign Henry, is Wenger seriously saying that Chamakh and Park are better than TH14? Really, it's a no brainer, the guy will only lift the dressing room and also the fans. Get him back, it's a no brainer!!

  32. north bank

    Nov 20, 2011, 11:26 #15156

    how did mertersacker play 70 odd games for germany?

  33. Jekyll

    Nov 20, 2011, 11:17 #15155

    @ Pete, I don't understand your comment. Are you saying people can't criticise the fact the club both raised ticket prices and prioritised transfer profits over early season results? Surely that's precisely the thing to criticise.

  34. Pete

    Nov 20, 2011, 10:15 #15153

    A fair-ish article but some unbelievable comments! We are playing better and better, winning consistently and slowly manouvering into position to challenge clubs (Man U and Chelsea) with far greater resources than we have. Yes - Man C are over the horizon barring some kind of collapse - but they lost £200mm last year! WE DO NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO COMPETE WITH MAN CITY OR INDEED ANY CLUB THAT IS HAPPY TO LOSE £200mm IN A SEASON!! Regarding the article's observation that we screwed up the transfer window, I disagree. We probably eked out £10mm more for Fabregas and Nasri than if we had sold them say in June, and probably paid £5mm less for the ensemble on deadline day than if we had bought them earlier. Clearly this cost us quite a few points - and some embarrassment - early in the season but we are starting to see the fruits now. Financially, people can't (justifiably in my opinion) complain about the season ticket increase AND complain about profitable if sub-optimal transfer dealings. One or the other... but not both, please. The best recent news at Arsenal is the new medical centre which may impact beneficially our appalling injury record and the worst news is Wenger openly questioning his own long term future. Mark my words, Wenger's early departure would be an unmitigated disaster for the club. He has consistently over-achieved given the resources at his disposal. Yes, he could have done some things better, but none of us are perfect.

  35. Jimmy

    Nov 20, 2011, 10:08 #15152

    You just can't help having a dig at Wenger in every article can you? Your pieces are good reads but they are spoilt by your continual criticism of the boss. I'm not saying you're wrong (the opposite actually), but is there any need to mention for the umpteenth time that we waited too long to buy in the summer? That's pretty obvious, but we are not party to all the facts so to bang on about it again and again is tiresome. I have a challenge for you - next time we win a game, why don't you see if you can write a piece which praises rather than criticises Wenger? I'm sure you'll have opportunities in the future to make your points after a defeat.

  36. Billy

    Nov 20, 2011, 9:51 #15151

    Yesterday told us nothing we didnt know already.Without RVP we are mid table.We cant defend.Sanotos neeeds a Sat Nav.Mertesacker looked awful against a championship quality striker.Lets hope the rumours about Wenger leaving at the end of the season are true

  37. nugs

    Nov 20, 2011, 9:49 #15150

    I have always wondered why fans were so quick to get on walcotts back, he is only 22 still learning and the facts are he was one of our top peformers last season and has terrorised better full backs than the one on sat, ashley cole?, if he can stay injury free imo we are gonna see a dangerous more consistant player.

  38. Santos dietician

    Nov 20, 2011, 9:24 #15149

    Made hard work of winning because of our wayward finishing.Gervinho had a mare.Kev you may want to brush over Mertesacker's mistake but he is no youngster learning the game he has 75 caps.His reading of a game was poor and his lack of body strength is worrying.Song was also poor yes he made the 2nd goal but how many times did he givce the ball away?On the plus side Theo had he's best game of the season.But if RVP gets injury we wont win enough games.We must buy a quality striker in january.

  39. Grimsbygooner

    Jul 18, 2011, 11:46 #10042

    First of all, we need more than one more signing!!! our squad i just to thin on numbers and quality and there are always half the squad out injured!!! will the likes of rosicky, diaby, gibbs, tommy v, rvp, and cesc keep themselves fit all season? Cesc and diaby are out already and a ball hasn't been kicked yet, our 'squad' players aren't good enough, the first xi can beat anyone of there day but when we have injuries we fall apart.

  40. Gunner6288

    Jul 16, 2011, 14:09 #10024

    Ummm Song takes cards for the team. Its not always possible win the ball fairly, so he gives the foul. Its better than Jack's wild swipes (don't get me wrong, Wilshere is great), Diaby's temper or Denilson's lack of care. Song is no Essien, but would arguably match Fletcher or De Jong, and is one of the stronger players in the squad.

  41. chris dee

    Jul 14, 2011, 9:50 #9930

    Oh dear oh dear. Arsene will be able to assess Gibbs and Traore against a Malaysian XI? And Arsene will use these friendlies to assess his defence as a whole? Naffing ell!If he doesn't know what is required after the last few seasons then we're in for another whole load of s**t this season.

  42. John

    Jul 14, 2011, 9:43 #9929

    We will not sign a CB if we were going to we would have signed one before pre season, we a sign player who did well in France last season.Remind you of anyone Chamakh maybe.We are keeping a unhappy player in Nasri who's heart will not be in in just look at Henrys last season.Typical Wenger in the transfer window.We have been left behind by our rivals.This will be Wengers last season because we will not finish in the top 4.

  43. fozzy's mate

    Jul 14, 2011, 8:09 #9927

    Simon I feel you gripping tightly to your optimism as we watch the close season slipping inexorably towards its inevitable conclusion. The yearly agony as we watch our transfer targets join our rivals and the only thing that improves is our bulging bank balance and share price. As OGL procrastinates saying nobody does early business while we watch our rivals splash out. No watch Cahill and Samba join the ambitious clubs we pretend to compete with. My prediction is at best a nil net spend again this summer. A bare faced disgrace but I am afraid a laughing stock in the transfer market we have become and we now face another inevitable ending, when we join the also rans fighting for 5th and 6th places, but arrogantly telling other clubs how to run their finances. The only club in the world owned by 2 billionaires but run like Blackpool.

  44. TheRussianAussie

    Jul 14, 2011, 4:47 #9926

    Games in East Asia are hardly a guide as to how well the defense will **** this season. We definitely need an experienced central deffender, Cahill preferrably. As for the keepers, Fabiansky should be shipped out at the first available opportunity. Surely that would be obvious even to Wenger by now. But a defensive midfielder is an absolute must. If it is to be just one more signing, we can kiss the top 4 good bye.

  45. Unbeaten 03/04

    Jul 13, 2011, 21:53 #9923

    I doubt it they will even use all the 40m let alone the cash received from sales of players.

  46. HowardL

    Jul 13, 2011, 19:21 #9920

    "is there a reliable left-back amongst them, to last the campaign?" Is there one there to START the campaign? Good article, Simon.

  47. Filipino Dan

    Jul 13, 2011, 16:37 #9917

    Totally agree. Maybe Gibbs / Traore deserve a shot in the first team, maybe not. But one thing is certain - we need a top centre half. It's vital.

  48. Arsenal Pockets

    Jul 13, 2011, 16:35 #9916

    Wenger will haggle and ultimately lose out on buying a Cahill or Samba type defender, yet he'll let Nasri run his contract down and go on a freebie. If this does happen then you'll see the Board sit-up and take notice! As for the left-back slot? Gibbs just doesn't look good enough defensively, very poor positional sense. Possibly a good run in the team (fingers crossed!) will improve that side of his game. Traore will never be good enough to play for the Arsenal!

  49. sparksy

    Jul 13, 2011, 14:01 #9913

    I would give Gibbs a try. He's young and hungry and English. Traore we saw a few times last year and i don't think he should be at Arsenal let alone a back up. To take Vermaelen out of central defence is a joke. He is our best CH and to move him out of position, would weaken an already poor part of the team even more, if that is possible. Wenger needs to spend some money and buy an experiendced LB and CH and let the younger players learn and fight for the place.

  50. Mark from Ashtead

    Jul 13, 2011, 13:45 #9911

    As usual I find myself in general agreement with you Simon. I think I'd add that it's looking increasingly likely that the Manager will look to pick up a Distin on the (ultra) cheap at the last minute to "prove" that he's addressed the more obvious CB failings. If that happens I have to admit that I'll be devastated. Distin is a good player, but manifestly someone into the autumn of his career. Clearly the progressive move is to buy Cahill (at 25 someone with significant resale potential btw AFC beancounters..), and preferably also Samba as well. That way we create options for ourselves, including the possibility of TV playing as the holding midfielder (something that even more annoyingly Chelsea may ask Luiz to do if they do get Cahill). Does anyone out there understand any of this? By my calculation we will have spent no more than £3-5m with Clichy and Bender out, Gervinho and Jenkinson in and potential £2-3m PA payrises for Nasri (assuming he stays) and RvP. As a result we could definitely afford Cahill (even on a fully loaded fee plus year 1 salary basis, which appears to be how the club looks at things) and still be in what appears by common consent to be the annual "available" transfer budget of around £30-35m. Funny how the only sure and certain things about the club at the moment are all to do with the price of your season ticket. Don't want to turn into a cynic but really think our lot would try the patience of a saint with their antics at the moment....

  51. Jason

    Jul 13, 2011, 13:42 #9910

    Wenger will not sign a CB.Why? because if he did he would kill the career of Koscielny a player he spent £10m on.We would be spending £15m plus to replace him and Wenger will never admit he is wrong.We are still 4 players short.Traore as back up to the crock that is Gibbs is frightening and to talk about our best CB as playing LB really shows Wenger has lost it.Still need 2 CBs A DM and a striker.Didnt we say the same last summer?

  52. Ron

    Jul 13, 2011, 13:31 #9909

    Gibbs For me there is a big question mark v Gibbs ability to properly manage a permamant place at LB, and thats not taking into account the fact that he makes Walott and Rosicky seem like durabilty personified. One CB in that defence will be as exposed as the present incumbents are and as such a good quality player will think twice about joining Arsenal if he has any sense. On the basis that Wenger thinks (only he can possibly do so) hes got enough to make a 'good' defence and hence we can all assume that he knows its sh--e but doesnt care, we need a good striker. Half the Clubs trouble is not scoring, just as much as not conceding.

  53. Dan h

    Jul 13, 2011, 13:08 #9906

    We need three more signings imo but i don't hold out much hope of it happening.Nasri looks unlikely to sign a new deal if so we are giving another asset away for nothing take a fee & reinvest in players that actually want to be at the club!If we don't buy a top quality c/back at least it makes no sense at all i again get the feeling money is being withheld pending CL qualification another hangover from last season's poor finish.

  54. aj

    Jul 13, 2011, 13:08 #9905

    Unfortunatly Wenger has always chosen his children over the supporters.He is a teacher who's more interested in the careers of his players than the club or it's fans.That's why he is prepared to sell Fab for £35 million when we should be getting much more.That's why he lies to the fans all the time and takes us for mugs. How he's been allowed to get away with it for so long is amazing.He ain't gonna change,he ain't gonna buy too much and as a result the club is gonna continue going backwards. All we can hope for is that Gazidis grows a pair.

  55. Jekyll

    Jul 13, 2011, 12:58 #9904

    I agree with Gee above. Wenger has no intention of signing a CB - he'd need to sell one (namely Squillaci) and he couldn't do that even if he wanted to (which he doesn't). Last season has faded from his memory and his recent quotes suggests he's fully regained his 'belief' in the current squad. The need for character and experience is fulfilled in his mind by the 'hope' that the players will have somehow developed this over the summer after their experiences last season - he's said as much. As for the LB berth, I foresee Gibbs playing a few games, getting injured, Traore proving way out of his depth, forcing Wenger to play Tommy V there, leaving our CBs as Koscielny, Squil and Djourou, with the consequences that we saw last season. Wenger is not a man for learning from the past, but for having 'faith' and 'believing'.

  56. GaryFootscrayAustralia

    Jul 13, 2011, 12:26 #9899

    The critical phrase in your article is "saving money"....if nobody is signed, either as a left back or a centre half, then that is exactly what's happened.

  57. Terry

    Jul 13, 2011, 11:56 #9897

    If we only make one more signing we are ****ed.To rely on injury prone Gibbs and usless Traore at LB is asking for trouble.Szczesny will be a good keeper but Flappy and Mannone never will be.Ever.We need two CB's brought because if TV gets injured again or ends up at LB we are screwed.Djourou and Koscielny proved they are 3rd and 4th choice CB's not 1 and 2.Song is not a good enough DM last season he was awful.DM's should not be in the opponents area their job is to protect the back four,Song cant do that.And we need a striker because as we all know RVP will miss half the season it is written in his contract.And Cesc and Nasri WILL go

  58. Ronster

    Jul 13, 2011, 11:09 #9894

    A solution Mr Rose.Shove Wenger into a time machine and ask him to travel back to the early 90s where he can take his pick from Tony Adams,Martin Keown,Steve Bould,David O'Leary,Andy Linighan and Colin Pates.

  59. lee armitt

    Jul 13, 2011, 10:59 #9893

    Don't forget we also have eboue to play there as well

  60. Clueless

    Jul 13, 2011, 10:58 #9892

    did you actually watch kieren gibbs last season when he played ? i think you will find during the course of this coming season that he is not the answer

  61. Sheriff

    Jul 13, 2011, 10:54 #9891

    LOL..Different season, same ol sh*T again by the Incompetent Manager...Cant wait till he leaves at then end of next season when we have gone 7 years trophyless...

  62. Gee

    Jul 13, 2011, 10:38 #9890

    Can't see him adding to the defence. He's already said Vermaelen is like a new signing. Hw will tell us that he has two players for every position across the back 4. Right back: Sagna/Jenkinson. Left Back: Gibbs/Traore CB: Vermaelen/Djourou/Koscielny/Squillaci Whatever you think about the quality of these players Wenger has always quoted us the numbers he has to play there. "I have 4 centre backs plus Alex Song can play there, so why would I need another Centre back". Same with full back " I have two full backs for each side plus Vermaelen can play left back, so why would I need anymore". The argument against this is that he has admitted that we are too small a side to defend set pieces properly. He said this after the season ended. He also said it was an easy thing to rectify. Yet he hasn't done anything of the sort. If by some miracle he keeps both Cesc and Nasri he won't add any other players to the recent addition of Gervinho. We will see Almunia, Clichy and Bendtner leave with only Gervinho join. Even Denilson, Eboue, Diaby and Rosicky will be lining up for us next season at some stage. The only thing that will force his hand in the market is if we do lose one of Cesc or Nasri.

  63. Richard Ansell

    Jul 13, 2011, 10:36 #9889

    Wenger seems to thrive on 'living on the edge' and taking huge risks with an already thin squad, especially at the back where we have been awful. The trouble is, Arsenal are not thriving on these unecessary gambles and you are quite right, Simon, that we have to sign a quality centre back at the very least now. Also like you I am seriously worried about the left back position (and the right back if Sagna is injured). Clichy is no real loss but I am not sure at all about Gibbs and Traore being up to the job and using Vermaalen as cover just weakens the squad even more. Wenger is riding for a fall big time and although it is admirable to give players a chance, he needs to be more ruthless when necessary, i.e Denilson and be willing to replace with quality and experience.

  64. Nick

    Jul 13, 2011, 10:34 #9888

    The first player we should sign is a big strong defensive midfielder.