One of those days

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One of those days

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I’m not sure too many people would have been surprised by Arsenal’s failure to beat Fulham yesterday. Many’s the time a big midweek performance has been followed by a bit of a no-show, especially at home for some reason. Not sure if it would be fair to call it complacency or simple fatigue, but for spells of the match, Arsene Wenger’s men appeared a little lacklustre, a little labored. Enough decent chances were created to have won the game, but they weren’t going in.

To put in in perspective, Manchester United had disappointing results both in midweek and at home to Newcastle. Chelsea did poorly in Europe, but turned it around against Wolves. Manchester City lost on Tuesday night and it must be hoped do so at Anfield if only to preserve the achievement of the ‘Invincibles’ in 2003/04. All the top teams are suffering.

Some felt there was a bit of spark missing from the Gunners approach play, although we endured matches like this with Fabregas and Nasri were in the team. I am not going to read too much into a draw in which the opposition’s strike was an own goal. It was just one of those things. The task for the team is to simply ensure they get it right next time. Draws – at least too many of them – can prove harmful. Better two wins and a defeat than three draws. In previous season run-ins, the Gunners have often paid the price for failing to gain all three points ,going right back to the earlier Wenger years. 2002-03 was especially painful, a title Arsenal should have won was sacrificed by the concession of winning positions at Newcastle, Liverpool, Villa and Bolton. In 1998-99, I shall always remember a cheap goalless home draw v Charlton in the earlier part of the season as being a key result that ultimately cost dear.

It is a weird thing how the concession of a goal can spark the team into life, as if the scores being level is somehow a more palatable situation than actually losing. But with three points for a win, it would be nice to see more of the kind of drive and urgency we witnessed in the last quarter of an hour a lot earlier in the game.

Arshavin was presumably selected because of Gervinho’s seeming inability to convert chances. The latter’s play as part of the Arsenal attack has generally been good, but obviously opportunities do have to be converted. Koscielny was on the bench but Djourou got the nod at right back. Defensively, he had a better game than he often does, but is obviously not suited to the full back role. Still, like with Koscielny there, he can partially compensate for Andre Santos’ ventures forward by being more conservative and ensuring there are numbers back. The idea of at least one defensive minded full back may actually be no bad thing.

Santos has, justifiably, been given a lot of stick for his perceived lack of defensive ability. However, I am not yet at the stage where I have written him off completely. On one level, a pairing of Arshavin and Santos on the left hand side is the stuff of nightmares, but Fulham didn’t really exploit the flank that much.

Fair play to the manager for making some bold substitutions and mixing things up a bit. Granted, it left the team a little vulnerable at the back, but it was a gamble worth taking. Abou Diaby showed some great ball control, but frustrated with his knack of holding onto the damned thing too long and eventually losing possession. Sometimes, you’ve just got to accept that you need to pass occasionally.

With the amount of added experience in the team, I’d hoped that we would not witness the traditional flatter post-big midweek performance I have referred to already, but it was not to be. Looking ahead, it is difficult to see a shadow Arsenal team disposing of Manchester City on Tuesday for reasons of quality of personnel. Additionally, Mancini seems to be able to slot in his back up players more seamlessly than Wenger. With the Carling Cup, in the days when there were more younger players fielded, the understanding seemed greater. With the more mix and match selections to give older squad players some game time, things do not seem quite so smooth. Part of the reason the club are charging so little to see a game that sold out easily is that, no doubt, the side Wenger picks is unlikely to surprise us by actually beating their opponents. Call me pessimistic, but it is very difficult to see progress to the last four in this one.

More important is Wigan next weekend. Arsenal can make up for the draw with Fulham by winning more frequently on the road, and the visit to the DW Stadium is a classic example of the type of match the Gunners should win, although so often they conspire not to. Let’s hope the solidity they have gradually developed comes good on Saturday.

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  1. Ronster

    Dec 02, 2011, 15:40 #15544

    David Stewart....try thinking outside the box.I am fully aware Ms Dodd is commenting on the present.My comments are in response to her unflinching support of Arsene Wenger.Mandy wants to excuse our performance against Fulham by pointing out other teams who fulfilled fixtures in the Champions League also had disappointing league results the following weekend.My 'retort' is that we should not be looking at others for our team's shortcomings and unlike an under achieving Arsenal Football Club the much titled Barcelona FC can be excused one off day.Wenger's persistent observations last season that he was overseeing his best ever squad are still fresh in the minds of many gooners and when you factor in the possibility of Denilson, Bendtner and Almunia once again doning the red and white shirt,I was not going to let Mandy get away with her 'new cycle' excuse when the majority of the offending players are still at the club.I didn't check Man Utd's line up before posting my comment but those ''quite a few others'' as Mandy puts it certainly were selected when the Mancs easily put us to bed that day.All very relevant then when presenting an argument against Mandy's staunch backing of our manager.

  2. David Stewart

    Dec 02, 2011, 13:21 #15542

    Ronster - I suggest you carefully re-read Mandy's straightforward comment, then re-read your own again. You will see Mandy's comments were based on the present, your retorts are based in the past, namely: 1) Mandy states Barcelona dropped points last weekend after a CL match. You reply with a precise of Barcelona's history. Not relevant. 2) Mandy referred to Arsene having NOT claimed this was his best ever squad this year. You bring up what was said (on one occasion)last year. Not relevant. 3) Carrick, Anderson & Evans played no part in Man Utd's FA Cup victory over Arsenal last season!

  3. Ronster

    Dec 01, 2011, 17:22 #15521

    David Stewart...don't see many commentators defending Mandy Dodd on this site.I see you have not addressed my observations above which are perfectly reasonable and rational.It's all about opinions me old son....you're perfectly entitled to question mine and I'll have a dig at yours.Now come back with something a bit more intelligent.

  4. David Stewart

    Dec 01, 2011, 10:56 #15504

    Ronster - Nope, not new to the site at all. Over time I have read many comments made by Mandy Dodd and many more comments made by yourself. I am fully aware who contributes the most rational and reasoned input.

  5. Ronster

    Nov 29, 2011, 19:07 #15439

    David Stewart.....merely observing as many have done on this site that Mandy Dodd's blind faith when it comes to all things Wenger is now beyond a joke.You may be a newcomer to this site in which case peruse previous articles and comments.1/Barca have been on top of their game for several years bagging La Ligas and European Cups for fun.So they had one hangover....big deal.Wenger's mob have been hungover since '05...Mandy clutching at straws me thinks.2/Wenger was stupidly bragging that his squad was the best ever last season....most of those players are still at the club.3/The 'likes' of Carrick,Anderson and Evans were part of a weakened Man Utd team/squad that easily dispatched a strong Arsenal line up in the FA Cup at Old Trafford last season....it was like taking candy from a baby!

  6. David Stewart

    Nov 29, 2011, 13:59 #15435

    Ronster - what part of Mandy Dodd's statement do you take exception to? I've read it a couple of time and it seems quite reasonable and measured to me: 1) Barcelona did drop points this weekend 2) Wenger does not keep going on about "this being his strongest ever squad" 3)Ferguson does persist with Anderson & Carrick [plus Evans] who in my opinion (and that of my United friends) are not of Man Utd standard. So what is your problem with her comment?

  7. CanadaGooner

    Nov 28, 2011, 17:09 #15425

    Very goo article Kevin. Well balanced. I'm not surewhat role sports psychologists play these days, but I just feel that for $100,000/week (or whatever it is these fellows earn these days) I dont think a mid-week match should have such an impact on a saturday. They need to remember that although we're doing well right now, we're in 7th place and playing norwich, fulham, wigan isnt the same as the much tougher games we have coming up, so we cant afford to drop any more points against weaker opposition. Still a long, long way to go, and I dont see Tottenham or Liverpool or Chelsea dropping too many points

  8. What was the point in leaving Highbury?

    Nov 28, 2011, 13:11 #15417

    I have to say i didn;t thinnk the game was that much different from Bolton, Stoke, marseille, sunderland etc.. except that RVP didn't score. IMO he is making a top ten side into a side that may finish 4th if he continues his run all season. In fairness we weren;t the only team to be a bit flat after a european game but what are our options? Bring Arshavin and Diaby in? Proven failures that are clearly not up TO it and certainly aren;t up FOR it. The biggest area of improvement has been our defence so why did Wenger change it? This is the one unit which needs to play together as the sums can often be greater than the parts. Rotation in this area is a reciepe for disaster. Nothing chnages after this result and it woulndt have done if we had won or lost. We need to add depth to the team so we can shake things up occasionaly and importantly have quality players on the bench who can come on and change a game and liven it up. Won;t happen though

  9. Gee

    Nov 28, 2011, 13:01 #15416

    Spurs have now forged daylight between us and the Liverpool. They will be extremely difficult to catch now, our best chance is to overhaul Chelsea somehow, although they can throw another £50m at it in January if they like. 4th is a very unlikely achievement for us now, dropping 3pts at home to Fulham is an absolute no-no, given the situation we are in. All points to man city should have been hoovered up now we go to wigan and then entertain everton desperately needing 6 points before the trip to city. I sense already that we are in the same position we've been in for the last 2 years except we are chasing 4th now rather than 1st. In 2009/10 and 2010/11 we rarely were 1st for any length of time (if at all) yet we all felt we could put a run together and win the league. It never happened, and whilst that shouldn't be a pre-cursor to us chasing 4th this season, we've never actually occupied 4th or higher in the 13 games we have played.

  10. Mark

    Nov 28, 2011, 12:33 #15415

    58'60 points is the max we will get i told you already. the squad is less strong than spurs and liverpool. the close season we experienced will come back to haunt us as we finish 6th at best. im shocked how many people were taken in by a few wins against mediocre opposition plus a suicidal chelsea

  11. Merse69

    Nov 28, 2011, 11:48 #15411

    Games like this are a reminder that it's going to be a long, tough battle to stay in the champions league. 'Might have to settle for just staying in touch, until the attack can be strengthened in January. I wouldn't write off our chances against City just yet, but no matter how promising, it's a huge ask for the young players.

  12. Mike

    Nov 28, 2011, 8:06 #15401

    Fulham did exactly the same with Man City and they couldn't break them down . My guess is the Asahvin started because he must play himself into some sort of form because Gervino will not be there during the Cup of Nations. Interesting to see what team will be put out tomorrow night

  13. Joe S.

    Nov 28, 2011, 5:53 #15400

    I'm disappointed with how threadbare this squad actually is. I can accept that some of the players were mentally fatigued,but am frustrated by how few options Wegner actually has when the team needs to lift a gear. Where are the hungry young players wanting to utilise every opportunity and prove a point. What remains is a tired old bench of highly paid individuals with nothing specifically to play for. A draw is not a disaster bur I probably share everone's fear that this could be the real face of Arsenal 2011 and the past few week's have been a temporary respite from the cold hard facts of a mid table consolidation.

  14. Rocky RIP

    Nov 27, 2011, 22:27 #15399

    Nasri's wallet - so you are blaming the players' attitudes? Were you watching the same game? AA aside I couldn't fault the attitude of the players. It was by no means a limp draw where the players look like they aren't fussed and it just fizzles out. They started slowly, but were giving it everything until the final whistle, but it just didn't happen against a well drilled unit. On another day we'd have got the win we deserved. Hence 'one of those days' is very apt.

  15. Ronster

    Nov 27, 2011, 21:45 #15398

    Ken Dodd......Mandy Dodd's lame excuses for Wenger have now gone beyond a joke.........

  16. Shropshire Lad

    Nov 27, 2011, 21:22 #15397

    It would be nice to think we will sell Chamakh and Arsharvin in Jan and pick up an out and out striker to support/take the weight off Sir Persie. However, knowing Wenger's stubbornness about the January transfer window and his comments about the size of the current squad, I won't hold my breathe. Hope we are not looking back next May and regretting not signing just two players to complete the job - again!

  17. Ken Dodd

    Nov 27, 2011, 21:16 #15396

    By jove,by jove,what a beautiful day to shove Wenger and Mandy Dodd into our trophy cabinet and throw away the key!

  18. simon

    Nov 27, 2011, 20:48 #15395

    its a tough one, he went with his best team to start and we wasted the first 20 mins when they were for the taking largely because ramsey's radar was off and he was having one of those games. you have to say chamakh and arshavin aren't justifying their existence in the squad right now and probably have until january to justify their places. i think the biggest problem was a lack of covering legs in midfield of the quality to match arteta and ramsey who were shot but if it weren't for the OG we'd have probably snuck a 1-0. So its disapointing but mainly as it shows offensively the squad is as limited as we think though defensively we do look on the up (in general play) and are limiting chances conceded. i'm more optimistic about tuesday than you kev as city struggled today. we'll face johnson, dzeko,de jong, nasri probably but not da silva, aguero, toure or balotelli so will have a chance. I hope he plays arshavin in the middle again with the two young boys holding, then we could sneak it.

  19. Gary

    Nov 27, 2011, 19:39 #15394

    @MandyDodd But Fergie is still raking in the trophies unlike our loser thats where the comparison ends.As for the players being tired did we have a long trip away to Russia and then a trip up north?No we had 2 home games with no travel.Why do we have to keep making excuses that the poor pampered babies were tired.Tired my arse.Agree with all the comments about substitutions its crazy we wait till 70 mins its just Wenger at his stubborn worst.Anyone know why Chamberlain is not on the bench at home to Fulham?

  20. Treble Double

    Nov 27, 2011, 19:19 #15393

    A frustrating performance where we didn't get going until we conceded. Another shocking error at the back has cost us. It is to be expected that at times during the season we will be a bit flat but if we hadn't let in such a poor goal we would be talking about another win whilst not playing well. As it is it's 2 points dropped and as Kev points out, how vital will these points be at the end of the season. Arshavin was his usual ineffectual self and should be replaced in the next window.

  21. Nick

    Nov 27, 2011, 19:01 #15392

    How many times have we been watching a game where its patently obvious that we need to shake things up to instill more urgency only to see the other side score the goal that weve all seen coming before our manager makes the changes we so desperately needed earlier he rarely if ever is proactive with substitutions only reactive i fear its a sign of the stubborness in his character that he refuses to accept that the players hes selected are not working to his gameplan and often when he does make changes his choices are bizzare i mean ramsey was one of the only players with any urgency in his game and what on earth was the point of removing the B.F.G. only to move song back there personally id have brought gervinho on for the abysmal arshavin much earlier pushed arteta forward or song leaving one or the other to hold in midfield but i would have made those changes at half time not wait till we were in danger of losing the game and then perhaps if it still hadnt worked brought on park or the morrocan waster and what is wrong with the ox why is he no longer even on the bench i tell you now as much as we needed a decent defender before the season we need a goalscoring forward such as benzema even more now its unrealistic to rely on Robin to do it all on his own and if we dont move for such a player in januarary we WILL pay for it

  22. Jekyll

    Nov 27, 2011, 18:51 #15391

    If you're reliant on one player for nearly all your goals and typically gift your opponents a goal a game, as we still do, then this is inevitably going to happen. Not the end of the world after a run of victories, but after all these years of playing in the CL you might think we'd have a squad which means there is no 'hangover'. It shouldn't stand as an excuse or an explanation. We've been hearing this for many years, the players know Wenger's got their ready made excuse for them if they're not up for this one, though I'm sure it's not a conscious thought. Also, have to disagree on the 'bold' substitutions. They were Wenger ABC, same time, same type every match, no feel for the individual match.

  23. GoonerRon

    Nov 27, 2011, 18:48 #15390

    @ John - when exactly does Wenger 'bang on' about this being his best squad ever?

  24. Nasri's Wallet

    Nov 27, 2011, 17:58 #15389

    Just one of those days AGAIN and let Wenger get away with it .Nothing to do with players being tired it was their attitude.Wengers failure to change tactics was shown up again.You can set your watch by Wengers substitutions.Same time EVERY game.Sadly we have another 3 seasons of One Of Those Days

  25. Mandy Dodd

    Nov 27, 2011, 17:35 #15388

    I would add the mighty Barca to the list of CL hangover teams this weekend. Theo BL - when did Wenger claim his current squad was his strongest - I have been under the impression this season Wenger has avoided any such hype. I do however remember him saying this squad reflected the start of a new cycle, very different to what you have just stated. Tru fan, you suggest Fergie does not put up with poor performances, maybe my memory is failing me but I seem to recall quite a lot of patience with the likes of Carrick and Anderson, ......and quite a few others

  26. DW Thomas

    Nov 27, 2011, 16:28 #15387

    Spot on with a lot of the comments here today. No desire to win the ball back quickly or find space moving forward yesterday. Ramsey is just not good enough going forward. He works hard and tries to boss the game, but too often comes up short. I like him but he is not experienced enough yet. The result could have gone either way, but why don't we take control of our destiny? At times, Wenger seems clueless and wooden on the sidelines and I agree subs should have come on earlier. Our inability to keep clean sheets by scoring on our own goal or making bad defensive errors is so frustrating. No one on this team has won anything, yet they show up and perform without the necessary attitude to win. You'd think they would be so tired of hearing about the trophy drought from fans and the media that in games like these we would see the extra winning effort. Same old Arsenal of the last 6 seasons. They play on a pitch like the Emirates, perform the job in a mediocre fashion, and still get paid like princes. When will Wenger instill in them the motivation of champions? $7m a year ought to be enough to see some spirit from the manager on the sidelines, no?

  27. Ramgun

    Nov 27, 2011, 16:02 #15386

    IMAC Nothing will happen to Wenger because he is a shrewd operator who has Kroenke eating out of the palm of his hand. Wenger ignores other Board members because they are powerless, though he does pat his faithfull, if rather weather-beaten, old poodle Peter Hill-Wood, on the head from time-to-time. I watched Spurs win at WBA on MOTD last night - and my heart sank. Quite simply, they are better than we are. I cannot understand why so many of our supporters find that acceptable.

  28. tru fan

    Nov 27, 2011, 14:45 #15385

    difference between Wenger and ferguson is that if it was man- u ashavin would have gone long time ago for non performance. Wenger is not ruthless and decisive enough and that is why we will never win anything for a long long time to come.

  29. IMAC

    Nov 27, 2011, 14:04 #15384

    Unfortunately we will have to suffer more days like this and worse occasionally, this is Arsenal over the last 6 years. We will win more games than lose or draw, we will have our great moments ie. Chelsea away, but upsetting ones as well ie. Blackburn away. Another roller coaster season to endure, that's Arsenal. We will not finish top 4 nor win a trophy, this squad is not quite good enough. This is not being negative it is what I honestly believe. I am not an AKB or AMG I am simply an Arsenal supporter who wants us to win no matter what. It will be interesting to see what happens to AW if we don't make top 4 as this will be his worst ever finish.

  30. Viking

    Nov 27, 2011, 14:03 #15383

    Excellent points by Theos Bikini-Line and Der Project. We're playing at home, and against a poor team too, all the punters and bookies had us down as certain winners, but I knew this was a game we could quite easily do our usual on! We started the game off the pace, surely we need to play on the front foot, get amongst teams, play with some passion, commitment, pride, intensity and heart, but I don't think we saw any of that. We let fulham have the ball, waste time, and not one players was having a go at the ref for theese pathetic tactics. If they have the ball, win it back, and quickly, win it in their half put them on the back foot and win the game early, it means less prssure in the last quarter of the match. Arshavin should never play for Arsenal again, he was useless, playing against a poor full back and he did nothing. It's players like this that Wenger has bought that are half the problem at the club, how many chances can he be given, sure he may have a good 5 minute spell in 1 of 3 games, but is that acceptable for a team like Arsenal. Resign Henry, we need him as back up to RvP, he's a million times better than Park and Chamakh. And Theo, learn how to control the ball and use some skill rather than kick and chase to beat your full back. Yes I know he set up the goal, but some of his play infuriates me. And whilst I'm at it, watch Pers distribution from himself to midfield, more often than not he will put Arteta/Song or Ramsey under pressure with a terrible pass. So many things need addressing, can we reach the top 4, it's a tough ask, in the past we would ask can we win the League, how things have changed.....!

  31. John

    Nov 27, 2011, 13:56 #15382

    Bold substitutions ed? It would be bold if for once Wenger made changes at half time like Mourinho does instead of after 68 mins.I often wonder what our £7m a year manager says at half time.The performance was flat in the first half and nothing changed in the 2nd half until they scored.The one of those days comment has been used too many times in recent years.One of those games we think we only have to turn up and win.To see Diaby back is the stuff of nightmares.How is this injury prone clown still at the club no better than Denilson.Wenger is forever banging on about this being our best squard ever.Well the Spuds were without 2 of their best players Modric and VDV and won at WBA.Could you see Arsenal winning without RVP or TV at the moment?

  32. win AFC

    Nov 27, 2011, 13:28 #15381

    Never mind is not the end of the world dropping two points, like kev says its not a defeat.Lets hope we beat Man city on Tuesday. 'UP THE GUNNERS'

  33. Der Projekt ist Kaput

    Nov 27, 2011, 13:24 #15380

    Must be tough for young fit men in their prime to work 180 minutes a week. I mean surely there's a law against this kind of wicked Dickensian-type exploitation? And them all on such poor pay, too. Ed makes a good point about other clubs who can raise their game and spirits and put in good performances after midweek European matches. Personally, I think it's almost entirely down to how the manager goes about it. I saw an awful lot yesterday of Wenger and Rice sitting on their hands and wincing at perceived bad decisions made against us. Get up for Christ's sake and show the enthusiasm, drive and desire that is required to get those results! Another glaring problem is that if RvP doesn't score - Arsenal don't win. Proven, aged mid to late 20's strikers please in January.

  34. Ricardo

    Nov 27, 2011, 13:23 #15379

    Sadly there have been too many "one of those days" over the last 6 years Ed.A game when we couldnt raise ourselves against inferior opposition.And the worrying thing again was Wenger couldnt do nothing to change it at half-time.Why didnt he bring on Gervinho at half time?As per usual he waits till after the hour mark to make changes.Fulham got their tactics right and played as a team we just didnt have anyone to unlock them.We lack that creatively in midfield.

  35. allybear

    Nov 27, 2011, 13:19 #15378

    Good article Kevin&good observations.As someone said on this forum the RTE panel is very fair and frank and Johnny Giles made some very good points last night.He asked why does Wenger need to change the team around?I agree that the CL team played very well and why not leave it the same for Fulham.Did he think it would be easier?Lets not forget that this squad isnt the strongest around.Anyway a draw isnt a disaster although the defensive frailties are still there.

  36. Dan h

    Nov 27, 2011, 13:13 #15377

    Fulham came with a gameplan to sit deep no excuses we just didn't move the ball fast enough.We still had enough chances to win the game Schwartzer made some good saves just a shame we didn't start with the urgency we finished with.Arshavin really looks a player without confidence in himself & the position he plays but his workrate is poor.You feel his Arsenal career is coming to an end who honestly could have seen this after his early months here.

  37. Theo's Bikini-Line

    Nov 27, 2011, 13:12 #15376

    The problem is Kev that 'One of those days' has become a more familiar refrain over the past 3 years or so!! If this really is the strongest squad we've ever had under his leadership, as Wenger claims, how comes that the manager can't rest a couple of the supposedly fatigued players and not suffer the drop in quality that so often transpires? The only reason I see for having 'one of those days' - beyond the obvious fact that the quality of the squad isn't as good as Wenger believes - is that the complacency that has often set in when these players have a supposedly 'easier' game or when they've been on a decent run reared it's ugly head again. Where was the urgency to get an early grip on the game? Indeed, we didn't show any until the last few minutes and seemed to be playing at training ground tempo. And why, if players were showing signs of fatigue, did it take so long to instigate the substitutions when it was obvious to all that we were struggling? Just one of those days indeed.

  38. Rocco

    Aug 14, 2011, 0:10 #11151

    We are not qualified or worthy to judge Arsene. Bringing in a new manager doesn't mean they will correct the issues with the team. More likely they'll hire some Italian clown that'll force the team into playing defensive football, wrecking the beautiful game Arsene has created. Next he will spend recklessly on slightly above average players to appease the fans and the signing will not help the club at all. Arsenal FC and its fans expect greatness and there's no point wasting money on just above average players to correct issues when you need great players to achieve your goals.

  39. CD

    Aug 13, 2011, 8:10 #11132

    The final deadline you refer to is probably irrelevant now because deep down we both know Wenger won't do what's required. If the way Arsene Wenger has conducted himself recently is not enough proof for you or anybody else that he has completely lost the plot I simply don't know what else would help anyone come to that conclusion. He has lost it pure and simple, and the best thing is to put him and us out of our misery and start afresh with a new manager asap.

  40. HowardL

    Aug 12, 2011, 19:09 #11123

    I'd have more respect for Wenger if he was being honest with us. How can he say that no-one is leaving? Certainly Cesc is going, of that there can be no doubt, so what on earth is he talking about?

  41. aj

    Aug 12, 2011, 13:49 #11103

    Is there any word that comes out of Wenger's mouth that isn't a lie? I think it's gone beyond what happens in the transfer window.What matters is that he goes as quickly as possible and we can move forward as a club.