Oh Brother Where Art Thou!

On the changing ways of Sunday’s opposition and their fans



Oh Brother Where Art Thou!

A pair of City fans: Their tune's changed a bit lately


According to John Winston Lennon, ‘Avante Garde is French for Bulls***’, a quote held in such high esteem by Noel Gallagher that it was once regularly emblazoned across the big screen every time Oasis played their hit ‘Live Forever’ live in concert. It’s probably fair to say that the word ‘raison d’être’ is another French phrase that would equally leave Noel non-plussed, though he and his beloved Manchester City are obviously both undergoing a major adjustment to theirs.

‘Citeh’ were central to the identity of Oasis on their emergence back in the mid-‘90s. On their first appearance on Top of the Pops in 1994 the late Bruno Brookes (well, his career is dead at least!) made a point of introducing them as ‘Manchester City fans’, no doubt at the insistence of their label, Creation Records. The nation was beginning to hate the successful and overly-commercialised dominant force that the Red half of Manchester was becoming, to such an extent that the band made capital by hitching themselves to the ‘Anyone But United’ bandwagon. Not to mention the emerging reality that, in order to be authentically Manchester, supporting a side where statistics alleged that 98% of the supporters do not actually come from the City wouldn’t have quite cut the right ‘Manc’ image that Oasis wanted to sell to the wider world. The fact that two-fifths of the group at this point were actually Man Utd fans was an industry secret that, back then, was as closely guarded as that of George Michael’s sexual orientation.

You see, Man City quite clearly had the underdog appeal, something Noel obviously wanted to cover himself in, judging by his quote that “We write music for the guy who walks down the street to get his copy of the Daily Mirror and 20 Bensons and has got f***-all going for him". Lo and behold, as this Paul Calf-esque image did wonders for their record sales, City did their part by getting themselves relegated out of the Premiership about a week after two sell-out Oasis gigs at Maine Road in 1996, and then down to the third tier just two years later. Things now, however, have dramatically changed – ‘Citeh’ are no longer the underdogs and, whether Sheik Mansoor gets the Daily Mirror or 20 Bensons every day, he certainly has plenty of petrodollars going for him – like Noel’s new band, Manchester City are quite clearly ‘High Flying Birds’ these days, rather than caught beneath the landslide of seventeen other Premiership sides like they were back in 1996. And there isn’t even a Maine Road any longer - not that that would trouble Noel too much. After all, these days there is no longer an Oasis – the Gallagher brothers have now clearly swapped the hits (be they of the musical or physical variety) for writs. However, like City, whose boardroom has since swapped Northern-workingman’s-club comedian made good, Eddie Large, for a Multi-Billionaire Arabic Feudal overlord, Noel himself isn’t quite that interested in being or championing the underdog much these days either.

One of Oasis’s endearing traits back in the 1990s was telling the world they would never schmooze the ‘corporate pigs in Ponytails’ to progress in the music world. However, in a recent interview with the Daily Telegraph he admits he does partake in this activity, now stating: 'When I was with Oasis, we were far too up our own arses to do any of that nonsense. But what harm can it do?’ The worldview he presents also seems to be changing a bit too. The once-staunch Labour Party supporter who advocated the youth of Britain to shake Tony Blair’s hand at the Brits in 1996 verified his support for ‘Tone’ by overlooking Blair’s Neo-Thatcherite tendencies stating: ‘From when I went to school, all we ever knew was right-wing Conservative government. People say he went to meet Tony Blair. I didn’t. I went there to meet the Labour Prime Minister….our parents always drummed into us that the Labour Party was for the people and the Tories were not. And I went to meet the Labour Prime Minister – period’.

However, if Gallagher studied a lot of his recent opinions closely these days, his political allegiance would be a lot like his Footballing one – that of Blue over Red. Noel stated here in a Newsnight interview in 2007 that he was freaked that Thatcher was the biggest political icon of the last 30 years, yet in the same interview extolled a ‘charity begins at home’ message not too dissimilar from Thatcher’s own ‘Society doesn’t exist’ ethos. His response to the August riots was also redolent of that of a right-wing newspaper columnist blaming TV and Video Games for the violence, as well as questioning the level of poverty experienced by the rioters because they owned Mobile Phones, a stance that’s slightly hypocritical seeing that his own sibling rivalry gave many sadists a fix of violence long before Jeremy Kyle ever hit the screens, as well as his own past criminal activities such as burglary and stealing car stereos as an unemployed youth in Burnage – which (as I’ve been assured by many a Northern friend of mine) hardly vies with Moss Side for the title of the poorest area of Manchester to grow up in.

Back in the 90s Gallagher built for himself a reputation for working-class soul purity in juxtaposition to the middle-class students of Blur, Elastica et al, here boasting away about having previously worked on building-sites and done milk rounds. However, these days he seems to have no qualms about rearing offspring probably more pampered and bourgeois than any member of Blur or Elastica could ever have wished to have been. His children are privately educated, something even his hero Paul McCartney refrained from doing with his own children, which didn’t seem to hamper Stella McCartney’s career prospects in any way. Noel explained that his decision was because ‘I want my daughter to be Prime Minister and, for that, you have to go to a posh school’ - seemingly unaware that six of the last eight PMs were actually state-school educated. Also, in a recent interview with the New York Times, when asked whether he would be doing anything to prevent his kids becoming Paris Hilton-style idle rich, he retorted: ‘I don’t give a **** if they don’t have to work. If you didn’t have to work, would you?’ – A strange stance for Gallagher to take considering his bemoaning of a ‘Can’t be bothered’ working class at the bottom of society in his Newsnight interview back in October.

Noel, it seems, after finding success in his field, has eventually sleep-walked into becoming the very thing he hated back in the days when he was sitting at the bottom looking up – reactionary, bourgeois, corporate, hypocritical, on the side of the big guys and even, to a degree, Thatcherite. And, oddly enough, Noel’s Eastlands brethren - after finally hitting the big time after all these years - need to avoid walking into the very same trap. After all, Colin Shindler’s very own attempt at a Nick Hornby-style football-related autobiography back in 1998, said it all - ‘Manchester United Ruined My Life’. Aired on BBC2’s Fan Night (an entire evening’s programming that was dedicated to Football and hosted by professional ‘Citeh’ fans Mark and Lard) that very same year as City slipped into the third tier, it was turned into a docu-drama detailing the years in the shadow of the Red half of Manchester, the torture of City’s 1968 title overshadowed by United’s European Cup win, along with smug non-Mancunian celebrity United fans such as Eamon Holmes and Zoe Ball as the talking heads, juxtaposed by Curly Watts’s attempt at projecting City’s representation of humility, kinship and unity with other fans by merely singing ‘Stand up if you hate Man Utd’. Also, ironically enough, there was an almost sanctimonious quote from newscaster John Stapleton aimed at United fans, stating that supporting Manchester City was ‘about sticking through your team through thick and thin, it’s about your past, it’s about tradition, it’s about your family, it’s about what you really, really believe in – and not about following some team who happens to win a few pots because they’ve got lots and lots of dosh’.

It almost goes without saying that post-Sheikh Mansoor’s arrival, ‘Citeh’ will eventually attain a plastic support of bandwaggonists (and no doubt many born and raised in the Home Counties) who will be oblivious to names like Paul Lake, Steve Redmond, Trevor Morley and a time when Man City resided outside of the top tier of English football - after all, it’s not like Arsenal avoided attaining plastic fans after winning Premiership titles, did we? And if you’ve followed the game avidly over the last 30 years it’s also hard to begrudge City finally winning something. That said, hard-core City fans don’t have to enthusiastically embrace the very things they loathed about United for so many years – arrogance, shallowness, a loss of soul and a fundamental lack of grace – you know, like printing £100M banknotes with a Sheikh’s head on it and singing songs like ‘Van Persie is ours’. While watching footage from back in 1998 bemoaning City’s plight in contrast to United’s over-commercialisation and predatory marketing to indoctrinate the nation’s youth, as a fellow football fan you could have easily have concurred with every gripe that City fans had with what United were turning football into back then. It would be the cruellest of ironies then if, a decade and a half later, City fans avidly embrace what may well be good for City but overwhelmingly bad for football as a whole.

Where the Man United of the 90s made uber-capitalism a fundamental element required for Premiership success (to which Arsenal lamentably followed suit in order to keep up), City in the 2010s are building something far more malignant on the foundation stone laid by Abramovich eight years ago – that football continues to be an industry that’s collectively living beyond its means, fuelled by money not even made within the game, rapidly losing its original USP of healthy competition and that the only way of keeping up is to get an oligarch of your own, regardless of what dubious socio-economic order they represent in their indigenous country. And, far from blameless ourselves, way too many Arsenal fans these days seem all too quick to forget, or certainly not dwell on for too long, much of what Craig Murray warned us of about Alisher Usmanov four years ago in the vague hope that he might throw billions at us to make us just like City.

And what of Colin Shindler himself? Is he finally at peace now that City can easily live with United? Well apparently not. According to Shindler: "I remember when we won the league in 1968, and there were men droning on about the Championship-winning side of 1937. I wanted to say, 'But look at what's in front of you, it's fabulous'. The difference now is that Joe Mercer and Malcolm Allison grew that team, whereas this is like playing fantasy football. This City team has been cooked in a microwave; very tasty, but if you really want something sumptuous you have to cook it for three hours in red wine, in the oven”. It isn’t just the fact that success was largely bought instead of grown, but also that Shindler feels estranged from what City has grown into, stating: ‘I don't recognise her any longer. She might look beautiful but she's rotten at the core. I still love her. How could I not after all these years? The opposite of love is indifference and I'm certainly not indifferent to what happens to Manchester City. I want to love Manchester City again. Just now . . . I simply can't’. You’d have thought that, after thirty five years of suffering, City fans wouldn’t be looking back in anger. Astonishingly though, some, like Colin Shindler, are actually are mourning in glory.


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  1. John Tait

    Dec 20, 2011, 16:45 #16095

    I was looking forward to reading your article until I got to the vile Bruno Brookes jibe, what is the point of that, Bruno was setting the pace and entertaining a generation whilst you were either having your arse wiped or were a twinkle in your Fathers coal picking eye. NO NEED.

  2. Mel oreilly

    Dec 18, 2011, 18:39 #16032

    Let them have their moment in the sun, have a sip of your pint , take a drag on your marlboro light and say- **** it , we re the arsenal

  3. Brigham600

    Dec 18, 2011, 0:32 #16031

    One of the better posts of late and I agree with some otheres, Oasis were great but I I preferred the Charlentans. Also have to say, great post by PhilClare the Ciy fan.

  4. Dec

    Dec 17, 2011, 23:05 #16029

    We all preferred Citeh when they resembled The Fast Show character Unlucky Alf - you had to feel pity for them. How times have changed. The fantasy football route of the chavs and citeh are hard to take, but I'm proud of our history and they can't buy that. Incidentally, as a huge Charlatans fan - seen them over 20 times - always preferred to think of them as a midlands band as only 2 of the 5 are Mancs. Sadly, them 2 are United fans!

  5. Mandy Dodd

    Dec 17, 2011, 19:06 #16028

    Agree on the post bigging up the Charlatans, a far superior band to Oasis, as were many in the day. Whilst The Charlatans clearly had their influences, Oasis are really nothing more than a rehash collage of several bands who went before them. But at least they are proper Man City fans. Overall,I have a lot of time for true citeh fans, however my first experience with them was a scary one, I was with a Luton supporting family friend at the famous game where Raddy Antic's goal relegated them. Despite not being a Luton fan, some of the city fans were not exactly friendly as we left the ground, I seem to remember some very happy Utd fans giving the Luton fans an escort as they headed for the various car parks and stations. Still, a long time ago, a bad day for them and cant really judge them all on that.

  6. DW Thomas

    Dec 17, 2011, 17:06 #16027

    Man City's current squad: Money hungry mercs (Nasri, Ade, Clichy, Kolo, Silva, Barry, YaYa, et al.) and overrated second tier misfits with 14 year old mentalities (Balotelli). The only players I would want at Arsenal would be Silva and maybe Hart as backup. Otherwise you can keep your billion dollar squad. What a joke they got knocked out in the group stages of the CL too. I don't necessarily agree with Arsene's transfer dealings, but he does look like a genius who can make diamonds out of the rough compared to City. I'd rather have loyalty and character from my team than spoiled talent any day of the week. Arsenal are class, with a rich and storied history, and an Invincibles season. Not even Man United can boast that.

  7. almunia is a clown

    Dec 17, 2011, 16:57 #16026

    Perhaps Andrew Cohen should redo his flawed sums, cost of a warship made 100 years ago would be largely cheap manual labour, no comparision to a high tech modern ship. He should check the inflation index from 1910 for a modern sum of Norris' investment in Arsenal ? It's just short of £19 million!!!!!!!!!!

  8. fozzy's mate

    Dec 17, 2011, 7:51 #16024

    Mr Exley, whilst not enjoying the current Citeh champagne Supernovah, as I have said on these pages I have no desire to see eye wateringly rich men become richer. Mansour is the Abramovich or before him Jack Walker of today. Rather than look back in anger they lavish dough on buying the best players, roll with it and see what happens. If you have unimaginable wealth you don't tell the mrs Sally that she can wait for he new car do you, like you or I would do. However our own mega rich major shareholder sits silently counting his billions in Denver rather than using it to build a wonder wall. Then each season tells us to stop crying our hearts out as we watch our dreams crumble. We are the only giant of the world game with billionaire owners that do not splash the cash and patronisingly spout the phrase self sustainable, which is a phrase I. now fear more than the dreaded "internal solutions" so often mouthed by our very own lead singer. What I crave is some Gallagheresque spats in the boardroom between Kronke and the even more dough laden Usmanov in the boardroom which may spur us on to glory. Instead Hill wank and Ivan the terrible will attempt to covince us that wherever we finish is a triumph as we have made a huge profit in a difficult economic climate. Frankly how much cash billionaires have is of no interest to me. As it stands I may aswell. Own the club. Don't castigate Citeh for wanting more and searching for their very own oasis funded by desert dollars. What do you want one of the worlds richest men to do, buy the club and then want to turn a profit, scrape around in the market like a mid table regional outfit, charge the highest prices in world football, say nothing let his manager take the brickbats and get his stooge to spin 4th place as winning the champions league?

  9. HowardL

    Dec 17, 2011, 1:43 #16023

    I think this article sums up beautifully how I and probably a lot of fans feel about City. Don't begrudge them some success as they have entertained in many ways over the years (I remember seeing them end the Spuds record run) but total domination will be a bore.

  10. Der Projekt ist Kaput

    Dec 17, 2011, 0:45 #16022

    This is absolutely true - a Chelsea supporting aquaintance of mine said to me recently 'I'll give up my season ticket if Manchester City dominates English football.' He said this quite sincerely and without the slightest trace of irony. It was as if Sheikh Mansur was personally responsible for ruining everything, while an unnamed Russian gangster - sorry, highly respected businessman - is a benovelent force for the good of English football. At least the Gallagher's can justifiably call themselves City supporters before the flood of new 'fans'. As a 'Top Tips' entry in the latest copy of Viz states: 'Fairweather football fans. Remember the word "City" rather than "United" now follows Manchester when telling people who you've always supported.'

  11. Clockender1

    Dec 16, 2011, 17:56 #16021

    That's a really nicely written article. As to the Manchester bands, none were finer than The Stone Roses. I lived in Manchester from 1988 to 1992, in Didsbury and Withington, which was real City country, very few Man U fans around that area, most come from Salford or the North Side (remember them ?) of the city. I was good friends with loads of City fans, even to the point of standing on the Kippax with the local lads from the pub. Those guys were down to earth, funny and self deprecating about City, and I don't see that ever changing.

  12. CanadaGooner

    Dec 16, 2011, 17:47 #16020

    CL draw: i knew the recent spate of all-english club finals in the CL would seal the fate of english clubs in the competition or is it just a coincidence that Arsenal only ever gets Barca or AC Milan? what a gong-show! I suppose we can look forward to a Basel V APOEL Nicosia final (afterall that's how Porto won the CL) mishaps do happen I've been slowly losing interest in any UEFA managed competition (particularly after that debacle match btw Chelsea & Barca where it was so clear they wanted to ensure we didnt end up with 2 english clubs in the finals for 2 consecutive seasons); perhaps magnets in the balls used for the draws? (what cant technology achieve this day and age?). We're certainly good enough to eliminate AC Milan, but these draws are getting really pathetic!

  13. CanadaGooner

    Dec 16, 2011, 17:21 #16019

    I cant wait to see what happens when Sheikh Mansur finds a different toy and citeh have to stump up all that cash (or debt?). Sorry to digress, but I couldnt help it: can anyone tell me why Spurs want to finish in the top 4? (they cant even hack it in the lowly Europa). What's Europa about anyway? 3 british clubs out, but hey: we've got 2 others from Manchester to take their place. what a tournament! ha ha With the transfer window fast approaching and a frightful game at Citeh this weekend pardon me if I couldnt help but notice a chap who claims to be a citeh fan enjoying an article on an arsenal fans site. I suppose it's xmas, let's be charitable. Come on you Gooners!!! Let's take citeh to the sword!!

  14. Mister Marple

    Dec 16, 2011, 15:41 #16017

    Burnage, eh? Half way to Stockport. If N Gallagher believes that “We write music for the guy who walks down the street to get his copy of the Daily Mirror and 20 Bensons and has got f***-all going for him", then why wasn't he going to Edgeley Park?

  15. GaryFootscrayAustralia

    Dec 16, 2011, 14:56 #16016

    Phew. A few points. Robert, are you studying for a degree in creative writing? From what friends and acquaintances who lived in and around Burnage tell me, it was a middling South Manchester suburb with a slightly above average crime rate, due to a significant population of reasonably wealthy out of town students learning their first lessons on home and vehicle security the hard way. So no different to the situation any other beige suburb in any other British university town in the late 80's / early 90's. PhilClare, I reckon the first two Oasis albums were sort - of ok, saved by one or two decent singles on each record, but both they and Blur were massively shown up by the criminally underrated Supergrass, Inspiral Carpets, and Charlatans. I think The Charlatans were more the embodiment of the old, real Man City than Oasis ever were: modest, stylish, self - effacing, humorous, witty, underrated outside their fanbase, but with an unshakeable loyal support. Meanwhile the Gallaghers were achieving fame and fortune whilst shouting at random people, mirrors, and each other, at the same time that Roy Keane was achieving fame and fortune whilst shouting at referees and opposition players, so there's the kindred spirit / identity thing right there. The replies to this article also confirm how famous this website is amongst other team's fans for whatever reason....is the equivalent City site on the blink, or are people letting social media do their thinking for them again? However, I've still yet to meet an obnoxious City fan (maybe the New Buckinghamshire division isn't old enough yet), and I will forever treasure the urban myth of the City fans who infiltrated a Sharp electronics sales convention. They almost convinced the clueless overseas Sharp sales reps that there was no point them trying to set up sales points in the city of Manchester, because no Mutd consumers lived there, and therefore their stock and premises would be stolen and / or smashed up by "the locals"....

  16. Nelson McConnell

    Dec 16, 2011, 12:59 #16015

    Actually, Burnage is pretty dire.

  17. TotalArsenal

    Dec 16, 2011, 10:49 #16014

    Brilliant post. Beautifully written and composed.

  18. Ron

    Dec 16, 2011, 10:42 #16013

    I lived in Manchester in the early 70s when Blue was definitely King and Man U were routed for fun routinely. Ive nothing against the Club and the cash and their fans are OK too. I watched Oakes Bell Lee Young Coleman and Summerbee et al and have good memories. Its a shame for City that we re going to get something from the match though on Sunday!! Heres to a great match. Shame i cant get there this time.

  19. Jimmy Swaggart

    Dec 16, 2011, 8:59 #16012

    Just to let you know that in my experience most City supporters are not terribly arrogant about our new found wealth. Many took a while to come to terms with what was happening to our club, questioned what was happening and whether it was what we wanted. Ultimately most are happy because it is such a relief to actually see good things rather than year after year of dross or at best average football. We know we got lucky and we know it could have been another club and we are mostly very grateful. The ones who sing stuff like "buy your club and burn it down" tend to be the young kids. This to me is because of two things, firstly youth gives you that cocky outlook and secondly the younger fans did not experience the dire times. If the money goes and we go back to how it was, we'll still be there though.

  20. PhilClare

    Dec 16, 2011, 8:46 #16011

    Great article (and I'm a City fan). Don't mistake banter for arrogance though - most of us are still blinking in disbelief that we are beating Bayern Munich and Man United, instead of losing to Wycombe at Adams Park in the cold and wet. Spending huge amounts of money to buy the best players in the world isn't a new idea, though, all the clubs at the top have done it and still do it. Maybe not so many in one go... I suspect most City fans are like me - enjoying the ride, trying to be realistic, and preparing ourselves for when it all goes wrong! Still think Morning Glory is a cracking album

  21. Andrew Cohen

    Dec 16, 2011, 8:43 #16010

    A bit different since it delves into the world(Wodehouse would say sub-world) of the music industry. One quote is interesting:- "It would be the cruellest of ironies then if, a decade and a half later, City fans avidly embrace what may well be good for City but overwhelmingly bad for football as a whole". In 1913, Sir Henry Norris, wheeler dealer and bad boy, spent the best part of £200k on Arsenal. 200k was in those days 15-20% of the cost of a new major capital warship. They cost 2-3 billion today, so £ £400 million might be deemed the equivalent. This is Manchester City's time with the benefit of an unusually large cheque book. We had ours and it gave us our start. I hope that the money doesn't spoil them, and for most it won't. There are always some idiots who convince themselves that their team will enjoy a thousand year reich. However, all empires end and there are no exceptions.