A definite improvement on last time in Manchester

Online Ed: Arsenal lose to title favourites



A definite improvement on last time in Manchester

Szczesny: Great performance not rewarded


Those that travelled to Eastlands yesterday did so more than in hope than expectation, and saw an end to end game that neutrals enjoyed from the sound of the TV pundits. As a Gooner, it is difficult to look at such an idea objectively. If the team lose, it takes a lot to convince me I have seen a classic game. However, Arsenal definitely traded punches, but in the cold light of day, I would have to say that of the chances missed, the best ones were undoubtedly Man City’s and I have to say I thought they were worthy of the three points.

With makeshift full backs, Arsenal were always going to be in for a testing afternoon. The high offside line the defence played was a gamble that ultimately cost when Mario Balotelli broke free on the left and set up the chance that led to the winning goal. Given the wealth and quality of City’s attacking options, perhaps a more cautious approach might have been the order of the day, but who knows. City are playing very well at the moment and on home turf seem infallible. So there is no disgrace in losing 1-0 there. What is important is that the Gunners bounce back on Wednesday night against an obviously struggling Aston Villa side and secure three points.

Roberto Mancini’s team are very well drilled in defence, and Theo Walcott was unable to get much change out of Zabaleta and had a poor game as a consequence. Arsenal certainly did create opportunities, but too often lost possession cheaply in promising positions, not something you can really afford to do given the magnitude of the challenge.

However, the big plus, in contrast to the visit to Old Trafford which acted as the catalyst for the changes which have seen the improvement as the season has worn on, is that the team’s overall workrate and application is so much better. And if you are going to lose, then fans will forgive a team if they know they have given their all. Szczesny had a stormer in goal, but ultimately it wasn’t enough. However, his talents will win the Gunners a lot of points as long as he is at the club, it was just a case of you can’t win them all yesterday. He could only parry Balotelli’s strike and the players waiting to pounce on the rebound is something we’d like to see from our own forwards.

Arsenal did worry City when they did get forward. The Van Persie goal might not have been given offside on another day and the same goes for the penalty area handball that the referee did not penalize. The Gunners made a fist of it, but it was not enough. It’s another league defeat, making five in all now, but this one hurts much less than the others suffered this season.

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  1. GoonerGoal!

    Dec 21, 2011, 10:49 #16116

    I thought we did well with a 9-man team. The performances of Walcott and Gervinho were simply woeful, yet again. I'm afraid it's time to own up about Walcott. Nice boy, but will never make a serious footballer! He gets 10/10 for speed, 5/10 for work ethic, but for decision making, execution, and technical ability he gets only 3/10 at most, and don't talk to me about his pass completion rate, continually passing the ball back to his full-back is the only thing that gets it above 25%! Which brings us to Gervinho, a man with some technical ability and a good work ethic, but absolutely no ability to see a pass or take a goal-scoring chance! It's possible we can carry those two against the lesser teams, or even against a top flight team having a bad day, but when push comes to shove those two will cost us points again and again. Just check how Gervinho's indecisiveness and giving the ball away led directly to City's goal on Sunday...

  2. Andrew Cohen

    Dec 21, 2011, 8:49 #16114

    It's true that we lack ambition, but there are just some seasons when the opposition has a better team. If we had lost 5-0 or won 2-0, either of which result would have been possible the truth would remain. Arsene Wenger doesn't learn quickly enough either during a game or outside it to outsmart a top class mind on the other side. He sees 80% of the necessities of the game better than anyone. He misses 20% of them when everyone else has very clear vision (e.g.Diaby). He is trusting to luck and Arsenal needs a better manager than that. Van Persie will be making his mind up while all of this goes on. He will come to the same conclusion as others have. We have no hope while the present manager remains in office.

  3. Fozzy's mate

    Dec 21, 2011, 8:40 #16113

    Mandy for once we agree, it must be the season of goodwill! As my posts and articles have shown over the past few years Hill Wank and his dough trousering cronies don't even make the bottom of my christmas card list. In fact now Osama has gone I struggle to think of someone I dislike more that the old etonian ridiculous Puffa jacket wearing, pompous as. Saying that the Denver dough counter with the permanent Movember look is fast approaching PHW status. Your lord god Wenger does not escape some criticism as he is still surprised when the likes of Diaby, Gibbs and Rosicky are injured. When asked if he needed to bring in a full back he said with a straight face "it depends on Gibbs", do I need to say anymore. Saying that I hear the 2 Steves McLaren and Kean top the list of potential replacements as Wenger is becoming a bit to devil may care in his spending!

  4. Der Projekt ist Kaput

    Dec 21, 2011, 8:30 #16112

    To the Mandy Dodd's: 'Staying with Wenger is our best option.' Really? Wow - I think I'll brush up my CV and pop it into FA Headquarters and see what happens. 'How am I qualified for the England job? Well, I reckon that despite having incredible resources available to me, I can go years on end without winning any competitions. I can boast a perfect record of zero success in Europe. In order to motivate my players, I can tell them that finishing second is good enough and I have no qualms at all if you want me to mouth off false promises of greatness to our schmuck supporters in saying that we need to move away from our spiritual home and into a souless arena in order to dominate the football word. Oh, and I can do all this on a measly £7m a year (plus bonuses).' I'll let you all know how I get on!

  5. Tony Evans

    Dec 21, 2011, 8:22 #16111

    Mandy - come on, your insistance that anyone questioning Arsenal must be a Spuds fan is wearing a little thin. We do still have problems with some of our poor squad players and that is what drives most of us mad. This issue has been our achilles heel for ages and yet we are staring down the barrel yet again. Wenger seems to have a blind spot when it comes to certain players and constantly leaves us open to a drastic drop in quality when we inevitably lose first teamers to injury. Criticising Wenger does not make anybody a Spurs fan and I think we can at least be grown up about this. By the way I do enjoy some of your posts but not this silly nonsense about Spuds fans writing on this site.

  6. Rocco

    Dec 21, 2011, 7:30 #16110

    Very promising improvement, I for one look forward to both rematches with City and United. If we keep playing like this and maybe buy in January we'll be in the Champions League next year and maybe even pick up a little hardware this year!

  7. Mandy Dodd

    Dec 20, 2011, 23:24 #16106

    Fozzys mate, can only agree with your post. If wenger were to depart, just wait......and be very underwhelmed.......one could well argue wenger needs a dein, but as things are, he is by far our best option with the current boards policies, they , to their credit now know that as well, even if stan had to come over and bang a few heads together on various issues this summer

  8. greg71

    Dec 20, 2011, 23:06 #16105

    suggestions for the villa game all or some may be useful,two up front,wide men who can beat a full back and find a same colour shirt in the box or a midfield player found in or around the penalty opposing teams penalty area ! Do we wait with baited breath,or do we wait for yet another 90 odd minutes.

  9. Mandy Dodd

    Dec 20, 2011, 22:44 #16104

    As deluded as wenger,you get me wrong, I have no affection for spurs, just cannot be bothered to write out their full tedious name, nor do I want to use a nickname and insult potatoes. Now run along keep trying to get a new stadium why don't you, one day maybe!

  10. Fozzy's mate

    Dec 20, 2011, 18:40 #16098

    Ron and co -I couldn't agree more. When we first got the 3Rd and 4th qualifying places we laughed at Liverpool for saying qualifying for a tournament was more important than winning another one. Hill wank and his supine dough trousering mates love nothing more than scraping into 4th place with the maximum return and minimum outlay. We very rarely sign a player we actually target as we won't pay the market rate, no matter how much we have in the bank or despite the fact we have the highest admission prices. A club of our size, cash reserves and owners should want more. Wenger and the squad we have had done well in turning the season around on the playing resources we have. But we should have a far stronger squad. I am totally anti this board post Dein. My fear is if and when Wenger has had enough, a Steve Keane type appointment is made ie. Someone who is so grateful to have the job they don't rock the boat.

  11. As deluded as Wenger

    Dec 20, 2011, 18:34 #16097

    Mandy Dodd- OK so we lost because of a dodgy ref who hates us and all posts on here slagging Wenger are from tottenham fans (or spurs as you affectionately call them) pretending to be Arsenal fans. That's that sorted then.

  12. Tony Evans

    Dec 20, 2011, 14:26 #16093

    Ron - I suspect you and I are of the same vintage and are on the wrong side of 50. Football has fundementally changed from when I started to stand in the schoolboys enclosure at Highbury and although I certainly wouldn't knock everything about the game these days, some aspects leave me cold. If I thought too hard about it I would probably turn my back on football for good and it is only my countless years as an Arsenal fan that keeps me interested.

  13. Gee

    Dec 20, 2011, 12:52 #16091

    I re-iterate, I'm getting fed up of our club being the plucky loser who put in a brave performance but came away with zero points. Just like in the carling cup we had no match winners to equal our fighting spirit. We are quickly becoming Everton in terms of the fighters on the pitch who are endearing themselves to the fans, but with no actual results to go with it. Don't get me wrong I'm glad we've at least turned things around with a number of wins lately. However every dropped point is very, very damaging as we are clinging to chelsea and spurs by our finger nails. Also, in these big games against the other top 6 we never seem to get a point. It's either win (Chelsea) or most likely Lose (Spurs, United, City, Liverpool). I commend the fans who drum up the excuses like "we've played all the top guns bar liverpool away from home". But I honestly do not think this makes much of a difference. We didn't score against City at home last season and have been regularly thrashed by United and Chelsea (last season apart), not too mention we haven't beaten spurs since 2009 home or away in the league. The next 4 games concluding on 2nd Jan are going to show us where we really are. We could be as far as 5 points behind both Chelsea and Spurs. And we all know wenger will do nothing to strengthen in January, so expect us to go on or normal run at the end of the season where I fully expect us to finish 6th

  14. WHL87

    Dec 20, 2011, 12:39 #16090

    I don't care how old he is - how the Ox doesn't get a run in front of the Russian midget is beyond me, especially seeing how he performed against Zabaletta in the Carling Cup match. Arshavin was utter s***e, again, when he came on. Get him out in January - he's a bad apple and, like Adebayor before him, will soon start to affect the whole barrel with his half hearted, dis-interested displays.

  15. Ron

    Dec 20, 2011, 11:40 #16087

    Tony - Thats about the size of it. I think most are of the same mindset regarding 'expectations'. Ill be blunt here. I dont have any confidence in us getting the right result v ANY opposition these days. Still enjoy going to games but my fear is that the lack of expectation could well lead to lack of interest, not only in Arsenal and attending games, but football in general, particularly the way the game's gone i.e those with the biggest wallets takes all. Im a cricket fan and for the first time for years i was dissapointed when the cricket season ended and football started. Football needs to be very, very careful i feel.

  16. Billy

    Dec 20, 2011, 11:33 #16085

    When one of our players comes out and says our only ambition is to finish above Spurs you know how far we have fallen.Its called dumbing down Arsenal.It began when the manager can out with his 4th place is a trophy comment.We used to be a team who used to be disappointed to finish 2nd.What is most disappointing is how many Gooners have now settle for 4th best or worse.

  17. Ron

    Dec 20, 2011, 11:22 #16084

    Fozzy - If it was left to me there wdt be a '4th place' to play for! The top 1 should get to play to play in a 'Champions League' and no more. The domestic league wont get its pride, integrity and dignity back while a Club is classed as successful for being a miserable also ran. Yes, i know. The games changed. Cash rules bla bla, but i wont shift my view nontheless.

  18. Ron

    Dec 20, 2011, 11:03 #16083

    A few of you fella's are risking your necks having a dig at Walcott. Hes english you know! I see Walcott as a player who will every so often do serious damage to your Blackburns, West Brom's and Wigans et al. He ll never upset top teams. Hes one dimensional, lacks guile, nous and imagination plus phusical strength and most of all lacks courage. If Arsenal really do have to sell to raise cash to buy big, hes one who they might consider moving on. Im sure Liverpool would give daft or absurd cash for overrated Brit players. Theyve got form for doing just that after all. Man C game summed up Walcott in a big match. Anonymous and clueless. He'll feel better though im sure if he watched what his replacement did!

  19. What was the point is moving from Highbury?

    Dec 20, 2011, 10:34 #16080

    Fair play we did have a go but let's not forget they were very wasteful to. That said we could have got a point and it was defiantly a pen. He virtually caught it. The same problems though. Bad defending, injuries meaning we never play our best team and no options to change things. They cut us to pieces at times and Song, our DM, was shocking for their goal, you can't let him inside that easy. Injuries mean that we went into the game with only 8 of our first 11, again!!! And when we need a change who do we bring on, Chamakh and the biggest disgrace to ever walk the planet Arshavin. I seriously do think he is taking the piss now so we have to sell him in January. He is absolutly ****ing shocking. If RVP doesn't score, nor do we. Surely Benni and the Ox are better options to come on. Walcott and Wiggy are not top class by any stretch, far too wasteful.

  20. Mandy Dodd

    Dec 20, 2011, 10:30 #16079

    The team played well, even the most anti wenger, even the disaffected Spurs fans on here have to admit that.When Alan Hansen praises this team, you know they have done well. Our defensive situation cost us. But as Wenger says, plaudits are no match for points and it is vital we bounce back and quickly. Also , very little is being made about the officiating, there is history with this ref, and remember, it took Phil Dowd's linesman and not Citehs defence to stop VP. Seems teams are being given a license to play with their hands against us...but weare told these things even themselves out over a season...right? but all that aside, some of that team deserve huge credit, a good performance against a team who completely humiliated the likes of the Mancs ...and the Spuds on their own grounds.

  21. chris dee

    Dec 20, 2011, 8:58 #16078

    It's a sad state of affairs when Kevin Whitcher and the vast majority of the postings are of the 'never mind chaps you tried your best'variety. It's also sad that the vast majority of fans just accept that we can't compete with Man City or United. This is a dereliction of duty by many fans who seem to be happy with out lot in life.You know,win a trophy or two,then a few barren years,then go again. If we want to be a truly big club then we should not accept what would be unecceptable to United,Barca,Madrid,AC Milan,Inter etc. The club is ruthless when it comes to finances,that type of ruthlessness should be applied in the pursuit of success on the field. It is to this boards,and previous boards, eternal shame or lack of ambition that we have never been Champions of Europe.

  22. Tony Evans

    Dec 20, 2011, 8:57 #16077

    Thought we did OK and could have snatched a draw on another day. Agree with all the comments on the subs used - baffling is the word. Overall, personally speaking, I have made a painful journey back to the days when I am not expecting too much from my club. I am always happy to see us win but my expectations are now as low as the powers that be running the club seems to be. Instead of hoping for top spot I am reduced to hoping we finish above the Spuds. Sad but true, when you think how spoilt we were during some of Wengers's earlier years up to 2005.

  23. colin

    Dec 20, 2011, 8:05 #16076

    With Kim dying in Korea Gadaffi gone countries over the world overthrowing their dictators.At least we still have our dictator who carries on with his failed project.Get used to this.Its the future put up a good fight but not good enough.We are playing for 5th place.Look at the lack of quality on the bench on sunday it was shocking.Plus Djourou Gervinho and Walcott actually starting.There needs to be a complete overhaul at the club and that means removing our dictator.

  24. V_Cannon

    Dec 20, 2011, 2:47 #16073

    Sorry Fozzy, there's a reason you've been slated for your anti-walcott bias i.e. it's completely unfounded. Yeah, Walcott didn't have the best of games but that was down to having no support from the full back and Gervinho and Ramsey consistently not finding him when he was in acres of space. Look how much he improved in the second half when Koscielny came on and Walcott started swapping flanks. At any rate, there was definitely no point taking him off, seeing as he was just getting into the game at the time, you all saw his shot, and the only replacement was the utterly, utterly woeful Arshavin. A terrible substitution from Wenger that more or less cost us the game.

  25. DW Thomas

    Dec 19, 2011, 23:59 #16071

    Verm and Szez were class, but who else? Arteta was solid, Ramsey just not good enough, Djourou way out of his depth (and Miquel by the way!). If only we had a Silva or Mata. There is a neon sign with exploding firecrackers saying we need a CM with passing vision and silky skills to feed RVP, Theo, and Gerv. Where is the OX? This is exactly the game where he could have done some damage the last 20 minutes. Could use another good wing back (maybe someone like Baines) and a top class striker with 20 goals in him. Those 3 would give us the depth we need and the creativity we lack. Theo I don't blame too much, but he cannot check out and go missing like he does and expect fans to take him seriously as a starter. I have played at a decent level and to look at the lack of skill some of our players have demonstrated again and again leaves me jaw-dropped. A simple pass or touch or shot that is not even close to where it should be. FFS Wenger has got to be either naive or super ego inflated to not buy in January. He is still giving consistent non-performers too much time when we've got talented others waiting with more hunger and desire. Can Park really be that bad that you can't play him more? I'm no trainer either, but where is Diaby? Why isn't Rosicky played over Ramsey certain games? How on earth is the Spanish Waiter still possibly our reserve keeper? These are all questions that Wenger still does or can not answer. I am pissed about the two losses to City this year. We could compete with them, even beat them more than not, if only we had those 2 or 3 quality players. Wait, I find myself thinking of that film Groundhog Day again. Same ****, different year. And don't keep telling me we've improved. Still not good enough for the Arsenal.

  26. Viking

    Dec 19, 2011, 22:46 #16069

    Considering we were playing with 10 men we did very well. Theo was awful and he had the cheek to question the decision to sub him, but to be fair, he did have a point, to be replaced by the Russian dwarf is embarrasing. Shava should not be allowed to wear the shirt again. He is a disgrace, this bloke is given countless opportunities and he continuously lets himself and us down. Would Alex Ferguson put up with this mediocrity? Man up Wenger, put a rocket up Shava and Chamakh and stop indulging them, this is The Arsenal. City played some awesome football, moving the ball quickly, playing like we did in our hey day, we did well to match them, but our bench summed it up. City were hardly worried when they saw 2 clowns warming up and waiting to come on. Poor RVP, he must be looking at Cesc and now Nasri playing with awesome players and think to himself - thic could be me. Pers gho out of jail again, this guy is a liability, slow, can't win headers, he's fortunate that he has TV, Kos and Chezney to get him out of jail, he was brushed off the ball way too easily by Balotelli in the 6 yard box, get rid of him and sign a decent centre back. Wenger make a statement, sign some proven stars, not average poor crap, I've had enough of Pers, Shava, Chamakh, Eboue etc!!

  27. Merse69

    Dec 19, 2011, 22:20 #16068

    Further proof that this side has real spirit. Aggressive attacking football from both sides, in which great saves were EVENLY distributed. This is (probably) City's season. As Blackburn and more recently Chelsea have shown, you can - given a good manager - buy the league.... But this could easily have been 1-1 or 0-1 on another day.

  28. Danny

    Dec 19, 2011, 21:15 #16067

    When are idiots on this site going to realize. thi is teh best we got. WUntil Wenger leaves his project and this money hungry board decides to spend instead of milking the team and asset we will not compete. we have a Russian who owns 1/3 of teh team and has no say or allowed to use his money to improve the team. until the yank and his friends are challaged, then we might see action in arsenalland

  29. Rob

    Dec 19, 2011, 20:50 #16065

    We are staring at a 5th/6th place finish unless our beloved leader who - unlike the beloved ex-leader of North Korea - is still with us, manages to get his finger out, in a major way come January 1st. Over to you Arsene me old mucker. Schez can whinge all he wants about finishing above the tiny Totts - Good God has it really come down to that from one of our own first team players ????!!!! - but we won't even manage that, if you don't try to earn this six / seven million that we are allegedly paying you. Sign some class players and dump the dross that we otherwise still have. The alternative is no CL football next August and no RvP either.

  30. Jonesey

    Dec 19, 2011, 20:46 #16064

    I was dreading a glorious narrow defeat. If this had happened at old trafford wenger would never have bought the players that have taken us from poor to average. And looking at the fixtures ahead I can only see us continuing our challenge for 4th place well into january + wenger deciding for the 3rd season in a row that our squad is sufficiently strong to achieve our objectives (albeit limited this year), until our annual capitulation which will surprise no-one but the £6m a year manager.

  31. Mark

    Dec 19, 2011, 19:25 #16059

    theo was rubbish and the fact is we have the 6th best squad in the league and we will send with 58-60 points.

  32. Peter Wain

    Dec 19, 2011, 19:24 #16058

    Yet another game against a big team and we fail to win. Wenger has not learnt from last season. Take Walcott pff and put on Bendtner. Now its Arshavin. It does not mateer how useless the Russian is he and Chamak are always used. Why oh why cannot he see that they are totally useless. We need new blood but like in previous windows we only will by cheap either youth or over the hill nobodies. No chance a world class player. Roll on the summer and RVP's exit then maybe something will br done. Mid table mediocrity at best.

  33. Der Projekt ist Kaput

    Dec 19, 2011, 18:58 #16055

    Sorry for sounding like a broken record - but if RvP doesn't score, Arsenal end with a point at best. If Szczesny and WHEN RvP get injured, we will be exposed as what we are - a squad as thin as Twitchy's tax returns.

  34. Fozzy's mate

    Dec 19, 2011, 18:46 #16054

    I agree in some respects kev but the problem is that the squad is creaking again and we have no quality cover for the front 3 at all. Anyone that thinks we will add quality in Jan must have been in a coma for 5 years. The frustrating thing is that if he had added arteta and metersacker last season as required it may have been very different. I really can't believe Diaby is injured again. With our cash reserves and our own sugar daddy owners why is our ambition limited to 4th place? To me Wengers recent quotes of it being a disaster if England lost its 4th champions league place spoke volumes. He makes a silk purse out of a sows ear, but why not make a silk purse a better one? We should want more than 4th place and a cash reserve that the eurozone dreams of. As an aside did anyone else think that our embarrassment of a chairman Peter Hill Wank looked even more ridiculous than ever in that crazy puffer jacket at the Everton game?

  35. Unbeaten 03/04

    Dec 19, 2011, 18:29 #16053

    All I would say is that we're even more lucky to have all our almost 1st 11 playing! We are thin and hope that they all stay njuty free and any left back come back very quickly. Only Arsene knows if he will buy a forwards or not but guess what he might do just do that but not the one we're expecting!!!!

  36. Dan h

    Dec 19, 2011, 18:09 #16051

    Played well but surely it's time to give AOC or even Benayoun more game time than Chamakh or AA.You have a striker that won't go into the box & a creative player like Arshavin who looks totally shot of confidence.Both will be gone by the summer at the latest trust me on that so why play them now if they are not going to be part of the squad soon?The keeper was again excellent Kos,TV were outstanding again very unlucky with his two late efforts the best footballing cb in the league imo.City look very strong title favourites now.Big game wednesday & need to bounce back quickly with a result.Don't forget we have now played all off the top 7 away from home baring Liverpool so we have them all to visit us.

  37. Felly

    Dec 19, 2011, 17:45 #16050

    Think you're doing your team an injustice there. As a City fan that was there yesterday I would not have felt hard done by had we only got one point. Cracking match from the two best footballing sides in the prem. Good luck for the rest of the season.

  38. chrisy boy

    Dec 19, 2011, 17:41 #16049

    A honest a fair match report, and i have to agree with some of you other gooners about theo, he has to do more in these kind of games, rather than hug the touchline he should be running across the line pulling defenders out of position and in general just trying something different. With our problems at full backs and if darren bent is not fit weds, i wonder if wenger may go with 3 at the back 5 in the middle with i guess frimpong in for song and 2 up front, villa are there for the taking and we need maximum points from these next 3 games. Come on you gunners !

  39. Danny

    Dec 19, 2011, 17:24 #16048

    we will not challege citeh, united, chelsea until Wenger leaves he is holding teh Arse back. Citch are not that good, just they had better strikers then us. whoi have we got, the greaser chammuck and the midget arshavin come on wenger , buy someone who knows how to score

  40. maguiresbridge gooner

    Dec 19, 2011, 16:55 #16045

    a little later than usual ed but still quicker than the rest city by no means unbeatable better finnishing a bit of luck we would have came away with something definitely positives to take away subs again baffling no impact whatsoever miyaichi? positives ? absolutely none.

  41. Jekyll

    Dec 19, 2011, 16:54 #16044

    Maybe the Ed wanted to avoid putting in a negative, so I'll do it for him. The substitutions were dreadful again. Chamakh and Arshavin yet again - why? On what basis? It seems a pecking order that is not based on form or performance. Wenger still makes decisions that hinder the team out of stubbornness.

  42. HowardL

    Dec 19, 2011, 16:40 #16043

    I thought we were excellent and unlucky. Stuff the 'neutrals', there aren't any when Arsenal are playing. You're either a Gooner of you want us to lose, and anyway I want to see Arsenal play like they did yesterday. Worth a draw, certainly. Szczesny was brilliant and the Verminator came so close to giving us that well-deserved point. Arshavin was a definite disappointment - we'd have been better leaving Theo on, despite his poor game to that point. He's a much better long term prospect and you his see his genuine disappointment at being hooked. As you say though Kev, if we don't beat Villa we are back almost to square one.

  43. Dorset Gonner

    Dec 19, 2011, 16:36 #16042

    Chity were the better side yesterday but I felt we could have got a draw (the defence reshuffle just after half time didn't help either). Chity had vertially there full squad to pick from and we're missing both full backs and Jack! With those 3 back in the team I think the home game will be alot closer, and from what I saw yesterday I would expect to win the game. But a much better performance than our last trip to Manchester. Think we need a few more signings in January, would like to see: 1) Cover for RVP (someone who can actually score goals) 2) Cover for Chesney (someone who can catch the ball in the box - seeing Almunia on the bench yesterday was worrying) I would like to see a few more players coming in but can't see it happening (we probably won't sign anyone)

  44. Steve

    Dec 19, 2011, 16:21 #16041

    Totally agree. City had by far the better chances and Joe Hart spent long spells of the game unelmployed. Walcott never got going and Gervinho is too wasteful. But its a vast improvement on our last Manchester visit. The team is crying out for another proven forward and if we don't get one then I fear too many points will be dropped when we simply don't have the quality to score much needed goals when behind in big games. The introduction of Chamakh hardly worried Kompany and co yesterday.

  45. Gooner SA

    Dec 19, 2011, 16:14 #16040

    Hart won't have a harder match at the Etihad all season. Szczesny made some good saves but was at fault for the winner. At fault for Spurs' winner in October too but has to play as Almunia would make five mistakes a match!

  46. Judge Fred

    Dec 19, 2011, 16:13 #16039

    I thought we were unlucky overall. Ref missed a penalty decision, RvP flagged offside when he was level - I reckon we could have got a point with a bit more luck. I think we are only a couple of January signings away from being a top class side. However there is no way Wenger is buying anyone in January. Infuriatingly familiar....

  47. Dave

    Dec 19, 2011, 16:05 #16038

    Fair assessment, a very open game. Vermalen and Szczesny were the brightest Arsenal players. It will be interesting to see if Henry appears in Jan on loan.

  48. will

    Dec 19, 2011, 15:58 #16037

    Losing was no disgrace especially with no full backs but the subs said it all. We bring on Chamahk and Ash (both in desperate form to put it mildly) they bring on Milner and Zdeco.worrying signs that Walcott not up to it. Too lightweight and touch too poor. Will he buy in Jan ?? We know the answer.

  49. Rickthegooner

    Dec 19, 2011, 15:55 #16036

    a sound review of the situation good article

  50. Fozzy

    Dec 19, 2011, 15:52 #16035

    Kev, You were rather kind to Walnutt when you described him as having "a poor game". I have been slaughtered in the recent past by claiming that he is not good enough but this performance was woeful. This time around we needed all 11 players to be at their best for this game. However, watching our man constantly losing the ball, coming off second best in tackles, passing to a blue shirt and being almost Deckchair-esque when strolling back to provide cover to the right of our defence, no wonder Weng pulled him off after 68 minutes. How long must we keep watching this dross whilst The Ox is still kept in chains?

  51. CanadaGooner

    Dec 19, 2011, 15:52 #16034

    Kevin - good review/feedback. it's a right shame that we didnt come away with a draw. What matters now is that we MUST beat Man City at the Emirates in April then losing to them 1 - 0 with all the money they've spent wont hurt so bad. What worries me most is the fact that some may see the scoreline as an improvement, but I dont share those sentiments. A loss is a loss, and perhaps if we hadnt started the season losing to the likes of Blackburn this wouldnt have mattered so much. So, the queston is: why did we have such a poor start to the season? We knew for months that losing a player like Fabregas must surely cause some impact (if for nothing else, he's been a regular part of the team for the past few seasons), Nasri was on his last year and even if he could be persuaded to sign a new contract, there was still a good chance he would leave. It isnt surprising that the same team that did so poorly at the start of the season got better after something was done? Before people start jumping to conclusions, this should be a lessons-learnt situation and the club must be prepared to deal with situations early on each summer to avoid such detriments at the beginning of the season To January: I'm not one for knee-jerk reactions and before I say anything about January - I would like to give credit to Verminator for his resolute display on Sunday: hats off to you fella. And credit to whoever brought Verminator to Arsenal. it was most refreshing to see an arsenal defender play with determination - he played better up front than arshavin and chamakh. In January, Arshavin has to go (2 awful passes when he came on proves he's given up - so, let's not bore him by keeping him at arsenal any longer). A few others may need to go too - and players like Walcott, Ramsay and Gervinho need an intensive course (perhaps from Thierry) on how to locate the post (maybe stitch a sat-nav to their backsides?) - if those three can take their blindfolds off when they play for arsenal, we might still end up in a decent position at the end of the season My prayers are now that Spurs hit their seasonal tumble. Right now they are grinding results out, which is a very worrying sign and one can only hope this doesnt continue as they already have a healthy lead on us + a game in hand Let's look up to the next game and hope we bounce back to winning ways. Yesterday's loss should only have been our second loss of the season, not our 5th!!!! Come on you gooners!!!

  52. CT Gooner

    Dec 19, 2011, 15:47 #16033

    I agree City were the better side, they created so much space in the middle of the park, which surprised me. We have to expect more from Walcot though, he was MIA until they scored. Not what I'd expect from some one wanting to play for his country! And Arshavin, after replacing the hapless Theo? My god he's morphed into...well morph, a pile of shi%e! Positives, Thomas Vermalen as always!!!