A Farce

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A Farce

The Ox – So when’s he off then?


The word that keeps coming back to my mind is farcical. And depressing. How about anger? Yeah, that too. Disappointment. Disillusioned. I could go on, for a long time. I just can’t be seeing the same thing happen again, a year after we lost Cesc, can I? I talk a lot about the seasons past as Groundhog Day. Well, now, so are our transfers. And the club just doesn’t seem to care. Making profits is goal #1in the kingdom of Arsenal. These are two recent quotes from the manager, the king himself, Arsene Wenger.

First: “We have not bought the players to replace van Persie, but to strengthen our squad with the thinking van Persie will stay. That’s still my mind at the moment.” Let that sink in. To bolster the squad with RVP.

Then, after United get their man: “It's sad to lose a player of his quality. He had only one year left on his contract so we didn't have the choice.” When asked who he planned to replace the departing Dutchman with, he added: “We already signed [Lukas] Podolski and [Olivier] Giroud.”

Didn’t have the choice? You sure as s**t did. Of course, it doesn’t make sense for profitability to keep him and force him to see out his contract. But, it would send a definite message. I don’t care as much about Van Persie leaving as I do about the message it sends loud and clear to other clubs and the fans. We are feeders and can’t keep our best players. He is/was arguably our only top world class player. And we sold him, again. This time to a rival with a glorious past who lost the title last year only on the last day by goal differential. When is the last time Arsenal came that close to winning the league? Not since 2004. And we wonder why we were 19 points behind?

Wenger’s words I can no longer trust. It is all smoke and mirrors. Sure, I agree we showed some intent with the summer signings. Or might that simply be for the illusion that we will compete? To insure the fans go on buying season tickets like sheep? What about our wage structure? Why can’t we, a club owned by two billionaires, offer more money of our own to keep our best? It’s one thing to buy a player for ridiculous transfer fees, another to pay a proven top player and captain a top wage to keep him long term. If we do not add at least two more quality signings, this club will only continue to fail and see our best players get better, then leave. What will happen to Jack or the Ox in a few years when they become world class? They will most likely have won nothing and leave for better money and a chance at trophies as well. Groundhog Day. Unless things change, now.

I too am sad to see the state of football today. Money talks and wins titles. It’s been obvious for years. Sure, United, Barca, Real Madrid, Chelsea, and City have good teams with a ton of ability, but they know you must speculate to accumulate. Any team can win the title. But to compete with the big boys, you must do all within your power to improve. I don’t think Arsenal does that, and it shows. Big time. We fail to win trophies. Our best players leave. Those that run the club hide and hoodwink the fans into thinking we can compete. I want to be more positive as an Arsenal fan. I want to believe we can win things. I want to trust Wenger. But the evidence doesn’t lie. At the end of the day, who can really blame Van Persie if his desire is to earn more and win more? Yes, it angers me that he is just like the rest of those footballers who will go anywhere, burn any bridges to make more money and win more trophies. Loyalty seems a thing of the past. What happened to the players who fight to turn things around at a club, instead of leave? Maybe we can’t relate because we’re fans and we know only one club, for life. Perhaps it’s the salaries they make that seem so absurd, it’s hard to understand the difference between 130K or 200K per week. Anything over 3K would be brilliant to me. So, 40 or 50 times that is unfathomable. A dream lifestyle. Yet, they always want more.

Anyway. I say good luck and good riddance. Never keep a player that doesn’t want to stay. I still think we could have done more, earlier, to convince him to stay, had that been Wenger’s desire. As is, our wage structure will always hinder the club. Yet, Arsene and the club, I now truly believe (without reasons to doubt) are more concerned with profits and self-sustainability than performance and glory. And that’s what I want, GLORY.

Here’s one more from his pre-match press conference last week. On the money made from RVP’s sale: “We have already invested the money because we bought Cazorla, Podolski and Giroud. We have what is needed to be ambitious. We bought players who can provide, we bought players who can score.” Arsene’s definition of ambitious and mine are clearly not the same. Ambition means you want to win, and will do what it takes. Wenger’s ambition is top 4 and CL qualification, and the profits that go with it. He seems to care more about developing young players than building a team for the long haul. Name me one club at the top of any top league that has sold as many quality players and captains as us. The best teams keep their best players, at least most of the time. They pay competitive wages so they don’t leave. They certainly don’t sell them each year and not replace. Not to rivals. That is a recipe for… failure. For several years now, that is Arsenal.


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  1. maguiresbridge gooner

    Aug 23, 2012, 17:30 #25705

    Yes CanadaGooner we should all get behind our team but there will be more than the occasional tirade and outburst along the way when we balls up when we shouldn't have.

  2. CanadaGooner

    Aug 23, 2012, 16:42 #25702

    Joe S, I dont think there's an arsenal fan out there happy with 3rd. Will Wenger get sacked? Not on your nelly! So, when the season kicks off my attitude is: what we have is what we have (manager, players etc), so why not rally behind them and see what goes. That doesnt exclude the occasional tirade and outbursts when they lose games we should be winning!

  3. Joe S.

    Aug 23, 2012, 9:29 #25680

    So,Canada Gooner,during the middle of 2011 - 12 you were pleadiny with all us anti Wegnerites to get behind the team and give Le Boss the opportunity to leave with the dignity he undoubtedly deservered. Fair enough! This season though you have come out gung -ho, kicking against the pricks to rally behind your man. Does this new found assertion come from your satisfaction in finishing third? Bully for you if it does. Last season we got away with a lot of three pointers, games which could have gone either way and were mostly rescued by guess who? not Wegner's strategic brilliance obviously but by the one who shall not be named and now seems to be a proud red devil. Sticking my kneck out to make early predictions I think that this season we will become a team that is a safe bet for a draw. Early days yet but I think Arsenal will lack punch both on the playing field as well as lacking astute tactical nous. As for the rest of you positivists attacking this article, how far in the sand have you had your heads?So much of our club's money has been squandered on mediocre talent. Why shouldn't an opportunist like Nasri look around him and believe that something smells in the land of Arsene. Look at the way wasters like Rosicky, Djour and Diaby have been given extended contracts. For what exactly? What will be their eventual contribution towards defeating the likes of Man. U. Chelsea or Barcelona. Duuurh, rocket science man! Having gotten all this negativity off my chest, I'm actually mildly optimistic. With Santi, the good news on Jack, and the promise of the Ox there is light.

  4. Ronster

    Aug 23, 2012, 9:26 #25677

    Bertie Mee/Don Howe and George Graham achieved greatness with squads that were often the underdogs so why can't Wenger? And before anyone throws petrol dollars at me,a disciplined,highly motivated,well drilled and tactically astute Arsenal post 2006 would have snatched the title on at least one occasion from under the noses of the usual suspects.Credit Wenger for consistently assembling a potent attacking team but shouldn't he be held to account for not admitting he needed a 'Don Howe' by his side?

  5. divingrooney

    Aug 23, 2012, 7:09 #25676

    Son, how many on this forum have seen a million pounds, or will see a million pounds (together not sum total) in life. Except a lottery, I dont think I ever will. So, a club is a much larger entity but to consider that they will give 24 million pounds just to make a statement is stupid. Also, what if RVP was injured in the coming international break, and out for entire year. I think you would have burning Wenger effigies, that why didnt you sell him for 24 million when you had the chance. Its a no win for Wenger, so he took the right decision. Money in the bank is worth far more than any imaginary scenarios built in fans fickle minds.

  6. DW Thomas

    Aug 22, 2012, 22:59 #25675

    The main point that many so obviously missed is that Wenger simply has not replaced the top players he sells and keeps too many that aren't good enough after several failed seasons and poor effort. If you pay attention in games and rewatch some you will see the same players come up short again and again. I think profit is the most important thing to the club and it shouldn't be, winning should. And no not at all costs. I do not believe the club/manager spend the money they have so as to make more profit. Why else would you sell the best players year after year? Winning players want to win, they almost expect it. Cesc is the only recent player I really miss, but you must admit RVP will be missed for his goals. I just have no more stomach for the way the manager and club come up with excuse after excuse for failure. Sure it's hard to win titles. But Arsenal more than any other team come so close yet always fall short these last several seasons. Why is that? The thing I come back to is lack of squad depth, no plan B, and bench player's inconsistency. And what does it take to have a better squad? $$$. Not like Chelsea or City, but good strong investment. No longer does $15 million buy the best. Cazorla looks the best we brought in in years, but he was purchased from a club badly needing funds. I do love this club, but am tired of the failure when many of us see the obvious problems and how they should be fixed. The whole definition of insanity thing. Still, I hope Wenger proves me wrong. Sahin and M'Vila would go a long way to giving me some hope for a challenge this season. And maybe a defender and solid backup to Chez.

  7. CanadaGooner

    Aug 22, 2012, 20:28 #25674

    DW, I find it really bizarre that we are here talking about RVP's SALE or Fabregas's SALE. These werent SALES! Neither was Clichy, Nasri or Song. These are players who find it so easy to blame others but themselves for Arsenal's failings over the years. Is it too much to ask a team with Fabregas and co to beat Birmingham in the Carling Cup? Was it not Henry who missed chance after chance when we played Barca in the Champions League final? It is extremely naive to blame the club or manager for these players and the loss of other greedy ones like Cashley or Adebayor. What you can DEFINITELY blame Wenger for is ARROGANCE! His youth policy could have worked if he paid respect to tournaments like the Carling Cup (playing a full squad when we got to the final against Chelsea as opposed to a bunch of kids!) and won some of those other trophies while building the young squad. If he'd done that, the likes of Fabregas wouldnt have walked away. And you could blame the club as a whole for their blind followership of that policy for 8 years and not doing anything about it (as they were all too happy to cash in on these players). The squad we have as of today, is good enough or should be, to beat the teams we kept losing to last season (wolves, fulham etc), and if they can stay focused on doing just that, we will prove the pundits wrong this season by winning something

  8. Any Old Iron

    Aug 22, 2012, 19:59 #25673

    Agree with GoonerBoy, the beguiled followers of Wegner. I'm firmly nailed like Tino Asprilla's shirt on the anti-current regime mast! We are now bit part players in the grand scheme of things. SAF has guts to pay 22m straight down as he wants that title back bad. What do Arsenal want? $£!

  9. maguiresbridge gooner

    Aug 22, 2012, 19:58 #25672

    Well said dartford gooner you forget having to wash our shirts when we got home after being gobbed on and having piss thrown at us.

  10. Jason

    Aug 22, 2012, 19:34 #25671

    If we put a Spurs fan in charge of Arsenal at the end of last season and gave him the task of f****** us up for this season, i would think he would have done exactly the same as Wenger. Sell our top scorer, sell our best midfielder of last season, and do nothing about the defence who were conceding goals for fun!!!!!

  11. dartford gooner

    Aug 22, 2012, 18:34 #25669

    For christ sake everyone, can't we make our opinions on here without being told to sod off to the lane!How childish is that comment. I thought Song was a waste of space, others thought he was a top player. I think i was right about him others won't think the same. We should all be grown up enough to respect each others views.Anyway having been to the lane many times unlike some on here i never look foward to my trips there having been kicked from one end of the high road to the other. One of the few things they seem to be better at than us. Back to football if Theo won't sigh out him, i would not mind going in for Johnson at Man City.

  12. Jeff

    Aug 22, 2012, 17:38 #25668

    Good article, but in my opinion there is no such thing as glory in football anymore. Where's the glory in what chelsea and man city did last season? Mickey mouse clubs, benefitting from financial doping. That, for me, was the death of the game i loved. Didn't renew my season ticket for the 1st time in 30 years. Sad really.

  13. Ron

    Aug 22, 2012, 17:21 #25666

    I might not be alone in not caring who leaves to be honest in the modern game. It used to bother me years ago, when loyalty hadnt totally been obliterated by foreigners and agents. Its not the failure to keep the so called best players that lets Wenger down. its an accumulation of many other things that he could actually address without big money. Simple things, like getting a clutch of players who arent feint hearted bottlers and much more. Those sales of RVP and the rotten Song are masterstokes. Neither are worth close to whats been paid. Juve had Van Persies true value weighed up. Hes a well aimed kick from 6 months off and always has been. Lets face it, these players who've left 'to win trophies' over the last few years cdt win as much as an egg cup when they played together with Arsenal.Its all abaout money. If they dont want Arsenal they can all f--k off for me and thats always been Arsenals motto too. Id gladly gather 11 players off the parks pitches of London and replace the entirity of that sqaud that Wengers got.Id even start going to games again and get the buzz that SKY and the Premier League, vomit inducing 'culture' has taken from me.

  14. billthered

    Aug 22, 2012, 17:12 #25665

    I think the penny may have dropped because in the last two seasons we have bought mostly players with no sell on value who are in their late twenties.This should have been done a few years ago when we where in positions to win things and came up short because we lacked experience,so please give our new signings some slack and hope they gel quickly and you never know this could be a great season.Well it is early doors.

  15. Goonerboy

    Aug 22, 2012, 17:12 #25664

    Funny how the so called supporters tell others to go and support another club if some express an opinion. I tell you what, when you go to Emirates, sing up next time, rather than making it such a miserble place to go - it has no atmosphere, because you tossers lack passion, you dont love the club, you love Arsene - because you bought in to his bull****!!

  16. Angry & Frustrated

    Aug 22, 2012, 16:58 #25663

    Like you I am sick and tired of all the lies & spin by Wenger and this board. A close second are the gullible head in the sand Wenger disciples, as they simply refuse to see the facts staring them straight in the face. Can envisage Wenger with his third/fourth placed trophy again in May coupled with a new 3 year contract. Absolute nightmare scenario to me and you, but no doubt heaven for the disciples!

  17. jjetplane

    Aug 22, 2012, 15:59 #25659

    All this and then its Stoke away! Reckon through lack of appearence the Ox will be sooner than later and I bet they are thinking how soon can they profit big time with Wilshere. Both will end up abroad. Who remembers mixing it with Stoke? Not many.

  18. John

    Aug 22, 2012, 15:40 #25658

    Anyone who thinks the economic reality for football is different from corporate life is living in a fantasy world. Sad as it is, we just have to weather the storm of financially doped clubs. Arsenal is making sure we still have a top club to support in the future, now that's what I call ambition. Please don't make the mistake to think that Chelski or Mansour Citeh have ambition, they don't, they're nothing more than rich boys toys. pretty pathetic, really.

  19. natty

    Aug 22, 2012, 15:01 #25652

    'Wenger’s words I can no longer trust. It is all smoke and mirrors.' He told us that Djourou and Senderdross were going to be brilliant defenders. He told us Denilson was going to be a future star. He told us the Youth Project would deliver if we were patient. I stopped listening years ago. Someone tell the King how naked he is.

  20. richhudsonsmith

    Aug 22, 2012, 14:59 #25651

    The problem at Arsenal now is there is no ambition. I'm not so sure things will change without Wenger as so many are suggesting. I'm only sure things will change if the whole board, and, the manager are changed.

  21. maguiresbridge gooner

    Aug 22, 2012, 14:49 #25650

    Well said DW and an excellent choice of words in your first paragraph Yes it has happened again were we surprised ? no nor were we surprised with the lies and spin before and after.I agree we have showed intent with our signings but how long will we have them the ox and jack included if unlike other signings they do come good and show real class we all know what will happen especially if the only trophy we win is third or fourth place.I like yourself want to be more positive and want our club to be successful again but its not easy with the same old same old. People come on here saying we are fed up with the same things being dragged up, discussed, argued about, written about, season after season but they fail to mention why that is.Loyalty from players is a thing of the past and there's really only two things that keep them at a club and at the present time and especially if the last seven or eight years are anything to go by arsenal can provide neither.

  22. Red Member

    Aug 22, 2012, 14:40 #25648

    very good article about what is happening at the club right now. don't take any notice of the negative comments on here. there appears to be a good proportion of Arsenal supporters who would rather stick their head in the sand than face up to reality. That is why Stan Kroenke is the majority shareholder and can't believe his luck that the club has so many sheep as supporters.

  23. delicious

    Aug 22, 2012, 14:38 #25647

    Very True. Here's some food for thought. Wenger is one of the highest paid managers in the world (definitely in the top 5). However, he doesn't want to pay his world class striker top salaries. It is simple economics, supply and demand, and this guy is suppose to have a degree in it. It must piss other clubs off that Wenger always wants to sell his players at top dollar, while encourage others to run down their contracts so he can get them on the cheap. I read an article that Alex Song was trying to renegotiate his wages for ages, even when Barca came calling. But Arsenal fobbed him off, saying they'd discuss on 1 Sept. Apparently, this was the four time they had postponed over the last 18 months. So he said... f$%k it, I'm off. Think about it, allowing players to run down their contracts seems to be a strategy. The player always get the blame for not being loyal, and Wenger gets to balance the books. Was going to get Sky when I thought RVP was staying. But, BBC's free hightlights will do, what's the point of paying for overpriced Sky subscription and over priced games. They are systematically lowering expectations, to the point where most Arsenal fans are happy with top 4 or finishing above Spurs. Viera, Henry, Gallas, Cesc, and now RVP. Don't understand why we're still not getting it.. .we always sell our Captains. Bye bye Verminator... bye bye Arsenal.

  24. Dave

    Aug 22, 2012, 14:31 #25646

    You’re right about the money issue, although this lacks perspective on AW. The idea that AW is happy to finish 4th to balance the books is absurd: he’s gone from Mr Cool in the glory days to doing Basil Fawlty impersonations now. It clearly shows that a man who has won 3 Premiership titles will never be happy with mediocrity, especially if he thinks he can still cut the mustard. He’s had a youth-based structure (because we don’t have the money for anything else) that has come very close to delivering the goods on a few occasions (2006 & 2008 CL, 2008 & 2011 Premiership). If the money had been available to retain the best players, then Cole, Flamini, Hleb, Nasri, Adebeyor, and RVP would still be at the club – possibly even Fabregas. This is hardly AWs fault as the wage structure is set by the board. The youth policy failed because loyalty is now linked to money.

  25. GoonerGoal!

    Aug 22, 2012, 14:29 #25645

    Odd, I thought the new club motto was "Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate.." ("Abandon all hope, ye who enter here...". VIVE LA REVOLUTION!

  26. Arty

    Aug 22, 2012, 14:28 #25644

    Ahhhhh...Jesus man, shut up griping for ****s sake. What a miserable mouner you are. Yeah, lets spend loads of money that we don't have...get ourselves into massive debt and maybe that will make the onlinegooner and his ilk happy. Yeah right.

  27. slav

    Aug 22, 2012, 14:22 #25643

    You want GLORY? at what price?

  28. Mike

    Aug 22, 2012, 13:37 #25641

    How utterly naive!

  29. mark fitzmaurice

    Aug 22, 2012, 13:31 #25640

    absoutly spot on i could'nt have put it any better myself,i feel we arsenal fans are being conned all the time and like you said players are being bought just to sell tickets not with any real purpose of winning anything,but and here is the crux of the matter unless us the fans stop buying the tickets and merchandise,no matter how hard it will be to do,until we stand up for our club we will continue

  30. Anon

    Aug 22, 2012, 13:31 #25639

    Well when you run Arsenal then your definition of ambition can be put into practice. Clubs go through hard times and as far as I'm concerned I'm just going to stay positive and be even more proud of my team when they come good. The worst thing for a Football Club in times of hardship are poor fans who throw their toys out of the pram. Get behind your team and stop slagging them off.

  31. roger

    Aug 22, 2012, 13:16 #25637

    what exactly do you want him to say.. he hasn't been given the money to spend by the board, that i think is fairly obvious. He done well just to compete with Manu before but since city and chelsea came on the scene he's got no chance of winning the league and he knows it..

  32. Kelly

    Aug 22, 2012, 13:13 #25636

    This statements are true and fact but does not change things. My concern is buy Victor Moses to replace walcott instead of Jesus ,he is premiership proven . Send Bendtner parking,bring Mexes and integrate the team

  33. bob

    Aug 22, 2012, 13:10 #25635

    "Making profits is goal #1in the kingdom of Arsenal" Couldn't agree more - the model adopted by Leeds, Portsmouth and Rangers has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to deliver the trophies so why are we not doing it! Those clubs and board had the guts to do what it take! It's madness to ignore it...

  34. strattss@btinternet .com

    Aug 22, 2012, 13:08 #25634

    shame that you see it that way. the thing is there is no glory unless you do things the right way as arsenal do. not some club buying there way to titles,(man city, chelsea etc). they will always be known as titles that were bought rather than won . ffp policed properly should sort out these flyby nights and arsenal will emerge much stronger for it.patience is needed. i thought it would take 10 yrs after the move to the new stadium before we would be as strong as we were. im 51 yrs old and prepared to wait so if and when we win another title at least i will be able to say weve done it the right way.

  35. MRMROD

    Aug 22, 2012, 13:08 #25633

    Spot on DW; i completely agree. Our players are so far removed from the fans these days they are now residing in an other world; a world where loyalty and actually EARNING a salary is a thing of the past. To maintain the self sustaining business model we've settled for fourth place and accepted that its the done thing to sell our best players, even to one of our most hated rivals whilst all the while balancing the books...and its the fans who foot the bill. Its very sad. With the average 37.5 hour a week worker in the UK earning £25k A YEAR...its hard to comprehend what must go on on the mind of RVP who'll pocket £10m A YEAR whether he's fit to attend work or not...its a bizzare situation where capitalism has run riot and the gap between the haves and have nots has increased exponentially.

  36. John

    Aug 22, 2012, 13:06 #25631

    When are you going to see the light and stop whining? Why should we keep players that don't truly want to play for Arsenal? Every year we have a player that greeds up and leaves and every year we perform better as a team. We always move forward no matter what. Do you understand how hard the EPL is? To finish third is no easy achievement. Last season, Nasri + Fab left and we still finished with more points on the table than when they were here. We as Arsenal fans should stop whining and just get on with it. We are extremely spoilt.

  37. Bored !!!

    Aug 22, 2012, 13:06 #25630

    You are so boring !!! Stop crying and realise like all the grown ups have that Arsenal are not going to whore themselves to players. If a player feels they have to move away from Arsenal to win trophies then let them go. I want to watch players who want to play for Arsenal. If you don't like it either buy the club or go and support someone else. Arsenal have always been like this, nothing has changed. If you really know the club you support you should have know this.

  38. D

    Aug 22, 2012, 13:00 #25629

    I only read about 3 words of this article and the infantile caption about Oxlade-Chamberlain before I lost patience . When are melodramatic people like you going to realise you dont work in football, dont know what goes on behind the scenes and view the game through some hyped-up "crisis crisis crisis!!" mantra that the media has created for you? Wenger's comments to the media are part of a strategy to gain maximum fee for players sold and get players in at the best price, they are NOT a reflection of the truth. The truth is, we are not owned by an endless pot of gold and thus cannot afford to spend the wages/money that City can offer, nor Utd who have built their fortune up over decades. We also cant afford to make expensive signings which flop and immediately rectify them. So guess what? When our Reyes and Arshavin's dont go to plan, we suffer, unlike City who can just rub them out and immediately start again. How on earth do you suggest we compete with that? We do the best we can with what we have. Much like the rest of the premiership and football league. Stop moaning and enjoy some football, remembering this is a long-term game and in your lifetime (I would expect) you have followed the only team in modern history to go unbeaten in a season, has won the double twice and reached the CL final with FLAMINI of all people at left-back!. Or, if you are so bitter, go and support Spurs as they're all like that over there, or if you hunt glory so badly, then do as the footballers do and transfer yourself to Man City who can offer you more chance of silverware in the short-term. Just please stop BLEATING about it on our newsfeeds!

  39. Red Arse

    Aug 22, 2012, 12:59 #25627

    First of all -- well done for writing a Post, it's always good to hear other opinions. Sadly, you spoil things by being so self contradictory. You imply that Arsenal should whistle 'goodbye' to £24m by making RVP see his contract out. OK, it's someone else's money, so why should you care? -- but then you say 'good riddance - don't keep a player who does not want to stay'. Confused?

  40. george

    Aug 22, 2012, 12:57 #25626

    i must say that some of what you said makes sense, the wage structure does need to be changed and the board powers need to shift to let usmanov in. However, i believe podolski,giroud and cazorla are worthy replacements, you seem to forget the amount of seasons we have wasted on van persie, so it wasnt as if he got good then we sold him, people criticize walcott for his inconsistency but van persie was an injury prone player who is 29 years old? i personally have to praise wenger for the signings he has brought in so far. i just hope the team gells fast, i can see a lot of potential in the team.

  41. North for Short

    Aug 22, 2012, 12:55 #25625

    So they pay competive wages do they. IF RVP turnd around and said he is not signing a new contract because, he wants to move to a club that will win a trophy and doubble my wages, you are OK with that. What happens to ~United when the Glazers,The Russians and the Oil Sheiks tire of the clubs they invest in, what happens to those clubs? A player leaves because a) he is advised by his agent and b) he gets bored with the present club. It is not very often you hear a player make a statement that he wants to sign for life. It just doesn't happen. Like in all walks of life, playing football in the Premiership is a job and if you were offered double the amount you were earning by a rival, would you stay?

  42. Phil

    Aug 22, 2012, 12:53 #25624

    May I suggest putting your whole mouth over the shotgun?.

  43. Goonerboy

    Aug 22, 2012, 12:52 #25623

    100% agree - the clubs new motto..... Lucrum Supra Omnia (Profit above everything)