Le Coq, the Ox and the Dwarf…

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Le Coq, the Ox and the Dwarf…

Giroud – Duck broken


I was intrigued to learn before the match that Coventry, once a top flight fixture are currently languishing in the depths of League One. And the 90 minutes that followed indicated why the once top flight perennials are unlikely to return any time soon.

They made a decent fist of it for most of the first half. A typically (for this competition) mix and match home team understandably lacked in fluidity and understanding. Not so long ago, Arsene Wenger treated the tournament as an extension of the Youth Cup, and experienced names were a rarity in the early rounds. Now, there is an element of giving more established squad players some match time on the pitch. It was telling though, that Ignasi Miquel started with Sebastien Squillaci on the bench. That Marouane Chamakh was named as only a substitute was also significant. Nico Yennaris – who has received most of his first team exposure at right back, was preferred to Emmanuel Frimpong in central midfield.

Weirdest of all was that, for the first time I can remember, Andrey Arshavin was finally started in the position that suits him best – that of shadow striker.

Coventry had a decent go at it and enjoyed a few attacks before the interval. The Arsenal defensive line seemed more cautious than the normal first choicers. Even Andre Santos seemed to hold back and be wary of getting caught upfield, proof positive that things are very different at London Colney these days, creating a buzz amongst the fans and optimism that Arsenal might finally be in a position to challenge for honours once more. Perhaps the insurance of a tighter defence means the goals of last season’s now departed captain might be less crucial in obtaining points.

However, some still need to be scored, and it was a relief to see Olivier Giroud break his duck with a nicely taken opener, created by a timely Francis Coquelin assist. 1-0 at half time seemed just about right, as the Gunners had edged the visitors in the opening period, without being totally dominant.

That was to change in the second, as the pace of the game, and the need to claw their was back into it, caught up with Coventry and gaps slowly began to appear. Arsenal could even afford to miss a penalty, which hopefully won’t knock Olivier Giroud’s confidence, as he was the guilty party from 12 yards after Arshavin had been poleaxed. Perhaps he wasn’t helped by a pair of pitch invaders upon the award of the spot kick. I was sitting next to my sometime podcast co-panelist Marc Ollington to watch this game, and we pondered the fate of the pair. You could not call them streakers as they were both wearing boxer shorts. Marc reckoned they came from the Coventry section. As they were only wearing boxer shorts, one assumes they were without anything else on their person in the way of money or mobile phone. Aside from being bloody cold, what happens once they have been charged and released from custody? Released in the early hours of the morning onto the streets of Islington in just their underwear? Marc pointed out that their one permitted phone call probably addressed the dilemma, but in these days of numbers stored on the phone rather than the memory, perhaps not.

I doubt the quandary crossed Olivier Giroud’s mind for long, and our own attention was fully back in time to see Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain strike a stunning goal to give some comfort and begin the flood. Goals followed from Arshavin, Coventry (a consolation due to a lack of focus - I think from Santos and Djourou - but you can live with that if they are going in at volume at the other end), Miquel and a brace from Theo. Doubtless Walcott would argue his late goals justified his claims for a starting spot as the focal point of the attack, but he missed a couple of easy chances as well, and the quality of the opposition, alongside the times of the goal, should be considered. That didn’t stop him milking the crowd though, and it was pointed out later that he is very PR savvy. It will be interesting to see what his reasoning for moving on is next summer. In reality, it is of course financial, so my guess is he will come out with something about not being played in the right position by Wenger (even if wide attack is where he will probably turn out for his next employer).

Another thing that struck me is that in Andrey Arshavin, we have the kind of squad player that winning teams need. Granted, he is paid way too much money for his contribution, but if he can play to his potential when he is used, the club have a player of proven quality that is content to sit on the sidelines until required without making waves. Getting him to reproduce the quality when he is asked to is the tricky bit, but he performed well enough last night in terms of attitude, seeming hungry and competitive. So maybe there is hope he still has some kind of a contribution to make in his final season at the club.

The draw for the next round gave Arsenal a trip to Reading, who have started the season very poorly and look out of their depth in the top flight. That Manchester United and Chelsea were paired led to optimism that this trophy is winnable amongst those I spoke with afterwards. Time will tell, but a second 6-1 victory in a row means Gooners are getting good entertainment at home these days. I suspect we might not see that type of scoreline at the weekend, but any kind of win would be fantastic.

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  1. Wombledin

    Jul 09, 2013, 23:34 #36325

    The naivety and eternal optimism of some Wengerphiles never ceases to amaze me. Wenger and co will never, ever change their philosophy. They are sitting on their hypocritical moral high-horse bleating about FFP and the German model, etc, so even with all the money in the world they are not going to change their transfer policy now.

  2. Ron

    Jul 09, 2013, 14:22 #36312

    Tyre kicking etc etc - 'I think theyve got wise to your bollocks every year'. So funny. Can just imagine it though cant you. Not so far from the truth. Mate, the e mails flogging Season tickets to Red members have gone out so im told. Pretty clear the interest has fell again, like last year. Decent players or chronic ones, those charges for STs are an insult to peoples intelligence as well as their wallets in my view. Football deserves to go broke.

  3. goonerdex

    Jul 09, 2013, 12:18 #36311

    I've lost confidence. As someone said earlier this week.....2 Togolese from the French 2nd division. That's what we'll get. Well if he does that happens, he deserves all the stick he gets next season. I won't have sympathy with AW this time.

  4. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jul 09, 2013, 11:50 #36310

    Tyre kicking Wenger, Texas dick ? that's a new one sounds a bit like a porno/star but like Red Member has already said it's hard to take the club seriously anymore.

  5. Red Member

    Jul 09, 2013, 10:29 #36309

    it really is hard to take the club seriously anymore. I think the only way to change things is a fans boycott now. it surely must be obvious now that a full stadium = no change in transfer policy. I am finding there are lots of other ways to spend my money these days - and once I stop going completely I don't think I will be rushing back

  6. Tyre kicking Wenger aka Noodles

    Jul 08, 2013, 23:00 #36308

    You have to laugh ...I can imagine the Arsenal directors having tea with Texas Dick and Wenger...."How's club level selling chaps as we should get a nice dividend soon?".."****e Mr Wenger I think they have got wise to your bollocks every transfer window"...." Hmmm I know, lets put a bid in for £30,000,000 for that goofy racist from Liverpool?" "brilliant that will shift some seats!" But what happens if Liverpool said OK...God Forbid?" "We do what we normally do, get some made up quotes from his dad saying my son is heading to London for a Arsenal medical, string it out for as long as possible, then act all disappointed when Rogers puts his foot down and scuppers the deal and then we say "will get him in January".... brilliant!! "We sell more tickets the mugs that turn up every week will think we want to spend some or our potential dividends coin haha Everybody's happy" ..."oh Mr Wenger now i know why we pay you £7,500,000 genius" .... but then again what do i know i've never worked half a day in football

  7. Green Hut

    Jul 08, 2013, 21:25 #36307

    Been reading Darren Bent could be available for £5m, expect Wenger to blow Newcastle, Fulham and Hull out of the water by authorising a bid of £5.5m anytime now.

  8. Ron

    Jul 08, 2013, 20:14 #36306

    Bard - A beacon of reality at last. Guys. Heed his words. They're smack on the button. Sanogo and the Keeper of one of the poorest relegated teams the EPL has seen is your lot. If you're lucky, there might be a 3rd rate midfielder thrown in late window. Arsenal's transfer window is about ridding themselves of Wengers embarrassing rump of garbage no marks hes accumulated and his hang overs from 'project youth' ready for when he ships out next Summer. The upcoming Season will be pretty much a re run of the last 5. Wenger knows it, the Board know it (and love it) and most of the fans bar those who are prone to hallucinating know it.

  9. Carlos

    Jul 08, 2013, 20:12 #36305

    Simon, the first paragraph of your post makes real sense. The fanbase shouldn't get too het up about the club's inactivity or the constant stream of rumours in the press. In an ideal world we would rise above it. The problem is that watching a succession o recent summer transfer windows unfold we can all see where this is likely to lead - you could almost set your watch by it. May; the war chest stories to arouse interest prior to renewal of memberships / ST's. June: Away on holiday or commentary duty, rumours in the press mount and anyway we can't sign anyone until June 30th. July: have to be in before pre-season tour or what's the point as they won't have time to bed in, rumours begin to abate. August: having Diaby back will be like a new signing, get through CL qualifier, cash assured so what's the point especially if the league season gets off to a reasonable start. Trolley dash will only ensue if the league season starts really badly. I admire your stoicism and hope Simon, unfortunately I do no share it.

  10. fozzy's mate

    Jul 08, 2013, 19:06 #36304

    Simon as ever I admire your optimism/blind faith but until I see anyone of proven top quality come in I will not hold my breath. The crocked Auxerre striker who I believe will be the new Bishoff/Joel Campbell is all the evidence I have at present to judge actual intent over the usual smoke and mirrors. If OGL does as reported sign a new deal I believe our targets will not improve in terms of actual rather than potential stature. I'm going on the last 5 years evidence. I hope your optimisim proves more realistic than my pessimism but as our rivals bring players in we do not.

  11. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jul 08, 2013, 18:02 #36303

    exiled&dangerous, it would certainly be interesting to see what way we would react if he were signed, personally i haven't given it much thought maybe because its hard to believe in the first place,not only the player but the price. I think what would be more believable is that TKOS and his department are in full flow doing their job (and doing it very very well as usual)in keeping gullible fans happy, just the same way they used, and are using the Rooney situation at man yoo, that situation couldn't have arose at a better time for TKOS and boy did he take advantage of it,expect to hear we are in for, and have bid big for, a lot of more big names before we see who actually arrives.

  12. Bard

    Jul 08, 2013, 16:14 #36302

    I'm not sure what the fuss is about potential transfers. We don't buy big and we take forever to conclude a deal. We might se a bit of action later in the window but only for second raters. All the stuff about Rooney, Higuain or Suarez is flannel. Why would a world class player come to a club that hasn't won anything for nearly a decade and take a pay cut to boot. Come on guys get real.

  13. exiled&dangerous

    Jul 08, 2013, 14:23 #36301

    I'm pleased to hear that Liverpool have rejected a bid for Suarez. What I'm more concerned about, regardless of his playing abilities, is why Arsenal are apparently bidding for a puerile, racist, cheating thug in the first place? It's been said before that football supporters don't care who plays for the side as long as they're winning. In his case, I don't think I could say that was true.

  14. CanadaGooner

    Jul 08, 2013, 13:27 #36300

    Of all the names of potential buys you've listed (Higuain, Rooney, Cesc etc), the ONLY player(s) Wenger will sign before the final day of the deadline will be 18 year old Mr. Joe Bloggs from the famous and reputable French League 1.

  15. jjetplane

    Jul 07, 2013, 15:15 #36299

    Some people are posting way too much on here! I await their enthusiasm fading as a new media avenue grabs their cyber-celebrity clouded world. One point - Wenger is even less important to Arsenal than a month ago. Hope to team have a least one leader ...

  16. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jul 07, 2013, 13:17 #36298

    garyfootscray, would come as any surprise that we're the easiest team in Europe to gazump, and Noodles the tyre kicker, the Mercedes dealership must hate to see wenger coming.

  17. tfsmudge

    Jul 07, 2013, 10:21 #36297

    I've read so many disillusioned angry comments on here regarding Wenger, his wads of money and our lack of decent signings. In some cases very valid arguments it must be said... BUT in my view this cashing in chips seems a little futile, because lots face it we haven't concluded a good deal in the transfer market since Dein was ousted 7 or so seasons ago by this 'happy to be 4th' board. Coincidentally we haven't won anything in that time either. Frustratingly weve missed out on numerous signings to the likes of Chelski, ****ty & co. When are we going to wake up and realise all our success came at a time when the right man was doing the signing leaving the manager to manage. By the way, it took a little work but we finally got our French 2nd division signing with the promise of course he'll probably end up at PSG anyway. The rot started in 2006 with our board and when Hill Wood stepped down recently, rather than reinstate our most successful chairman to date, they brought in one of their posh geriatric who'd probably heard of Arsenal while at Eton. If we all agree we want to be great again we should reject this boardroom upper class twit behaviour. Reinstate Dein, bring sanity back to the boardroom and clout to signing players and finally put Arsenal back where they were in 2006... Never mind the Bollox.

  18. BADARSE

    Jul 07, 2013, 10:03 #36296

    @SGR Boy, I bow to your greater awareness in this posting game. Told you I was a novice. Once more you give a valid observation in terms of squad places, so perhaps he is a major signing after all. Time will tell.

  19. Stroud Green Road Boy

    Jul 07, 2013, 9:49 #36295

    Badarse, much as I should like to share your amazement that someone would still be up at three minutes to midnight on a Saturday night, we must also consider the possibility that not all posters are on GMT. I think the issue with the Sanogo signing is he's taking up a space in squad that still has many players that either can't or won't be played. Squad space is at a premium and this lessens the chance of a 'ready made' player coming in.

  20. BADARSE

    Jul 07, 2013, 8:10 #36294

    Good morning campers! You go to bed late chloe! What happened there? In late from a cocktail bar, and just before bed thought, 'Ahh, I should just put a post on the Gooner.' Thing is, you are right about Sanogo. People nowadays just write and speak in capital letters. You have to look for the differences, at least recognise them when pointed out by someone else. Business is done in the transfer window. Business of all types of player trading. We, rightly so, are clamouring for big-name signings, to turn the direction of the club. That is fine, but we need to conduct other business. A very good, future potential, comes in the shape of this young man. It should be recognised as such. Don't let his signing cloud the issue, don't grumble and gripe about him being injury-prone, or sneer that he is a 'freebie'. He may be a very good investment. So be content with that aspect, then look past it, in awaiting the big-signings. These finer nuances make all the difference when trying to assess, or evaluate a position, situation, or occurrence.

  21. chloe

    Jul 06, 2013, 23:57 #36293

    i dont agree with your description of sanogo as a 'significant' signing - he clearly is not! he is yet another player who might turn into something one day. we have seen a few too many of these in recent times. good to see some of the rubbish leaving... hoping for good new staff soon

  22. Noodles the tyre kicker....

    Jul 06, 2013, 23:16 #36292

    Just read the google link for Asier Illarramendi. ...just more tyre kicking by Wenger! I swear if lionel Messi was available he would send a scout to watch him 30 times then offer £7 million and if we did sign him he would play him at right back and drag him of every game in the 80th minute .. Then again now we know his a bit doggy paying his tax we ' wouldn't want his sort her' would we mr hill wood?.

  23. garyfootscrayaustralia

    Jul 06, 2013, 16:34 #36291

    If any more evidence is required of our transfer window team's propensity to dither and lose, look up Asier Illarramendi.

  24. Reality Bites

    Jul 06, 2013, 15:41 #36290

    The only way we will make top signings is if we find a way to keep Wenger well out of the way. This was done once before, two summers ago. Wenger had become convinced we would not lose both Cesc and Nasri, and when we did, he went into one. He single handedly killed off the highly available signings of Mata, Cahill and Jagielka, and they are just the ones we know about. Instead, Wenger instructed his team to spend muc of the summer chasing Joel Campbell, a player who will for various reasons never wear the shirt. After the OT debacle and as the windw closed, Ivan realised signings were urgent, he also realised Wengers dithering would stop them, so Wenger was packed off on holiday, expecting the sack and the board went to work, some they got right, some spectacularly wrong to the point Wenger would not play one of them, but at least they tried. Gazidis has put hge pressure on Wenger this summer, my worry is that if he really is going to PSG, he will find a way of stopping big signings. IG must be very very alert to this, we can now move forward, if the manager tries to stop this, he must be disposed of.

  25. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jul 06, 2013, 14:47 #36289

    SGRB, yes the big balls talk/spin and oh how it was lapped up.It will be very interesting to hear what the wengerites have to say if/when he doesn't invest this so called new money we've all been hearing about in as you say whats required, and yes we all know what that is,but you can be very sure if the board can't be blamed his apologists will find some excuse.

  26. Stroud Green Road Boy

    Jul 06, 2013, 13:26 #36288

    nilz21, when Gazidis was giving it the "big balls talk" he did add the caveat 'what excites Arsene isn't necessarily what excites you'. So I hope once and for all that, if/when Wenger doesn't invest in the manner we can all see is required this summer, all the 'board is holding him back' talk finally ends.

  27. BADARSE

    Jul 06, 2013, 12:58 #36287

    @Peter Wain, have you got a bag of acid drops you've been sucking on? I did only ask a simple question, and am very sorry it pressed the 'negativity' button for you. Seriously, I can understand the reason for the vitriol, I just keep mine in check, and under wraps. Your answer was as I suspected, in that we have money in the kitty; thank you for your advice Nilz21, but I don't need to look at accounts, I am aware we are rolling in dosh. My question was answered succinctly by Peter Wain. However what we have available to spend, and what we intend spending are very different things. I don't for one minute think we will spend that amount, so therefore it doesn't figure as reality to me. Therefore I cannot anticipate, nor expect, I just hope, but with the 'handbrake' on.

  28. Peter Wain

    Jul 06, 2013, 10:40 #36286

    It does not matter whether we have £70 million or £100 million we still will not spend any of it. For the last two or three seasons we have spent no oney with the money from RVP Song Fabregas and others funding our "investments" in Gervinho Santos and Park. This time we would do our business early and so far we are well behind Man City Chelsea Liverpool the Scum and most other premier sides in that we have received £2 million and spent zero. At a time when we need seven or eightquality players our sole acquisition is one second division French player with two dicky legs!!! No decent keeper, quality centre half holding mid-field player or the two additional strikers we need. This is so like the last transfer windows -roll on 31 August we might see some action when all the top top quality players have gone and we are left with the dregs.

  29. mark from aylesbury

    Jul 06, 2013, 9:47 #36285

    Maguires Bridge - The legendary term "Tyre Kicker" Is alive and well in the Estate Agency game as well. Its a terrible thing to be labelled a "Tyre Kicker" The dream home aspirations get torn up and thrown in the bin as soon as an individual is so described!

  30. nilz21

    Jul 06, 2013, 9:27 #36284

    @ Badarse ..I suggest to take a look at the clubs last financial statement. Add to that the 5 year emirates deal and 5 year shirt sponsorship deal. You'll get a rough idea..that we do have more money to spend then spurs !!! who have already made a buy for 17 million + O and this is a club DID'NT qualify for the champions league.

  31. BADARSE

    Jul 06, 2013, 8:31 #36283

    @Peter Wain, but anyone else who knows! Who said we have £70 million to spend, or that that is our intention? A serious question Peter. I have explained before I don't read 'rags', and avoid gossip and rumour outlets like the plague. It means I sometimes miss real news. I do know as a negotiating ploy telling the prospective sellers that you have a certain amount of money burning a hole in your pocket would be pretty naïve. I wouldn't do it, why would Arsenal? My unsubstantiated view is that someone decided this amount must be available, therefore we can spend it. Am I right? Any answers please, 'but no tyre kickers', ha ha.

  32. Peter Wain

    Jul 06, 2013, 8:14 #36282

    "Yaya Sanogo is in and he doseem to be a talent worth developing" On what do you base that statement. A slick video. He is a second division striker with a bad injury record and that is all you can say about him. He is a free transfer who has had two broken legs and a season long layoff. He has been bought to keep Diaby company in the treatement room. So far this transfer window has been like the previous eight all talk and no action. Spend £70 million we have yet to spend 70p. Unless the management of the club is changed this comming season will be no different from the last eight.

  33. Gaz

    Jul 06, 2013, 6:13 #36281

    To be honest whilst I understand the excitement surrounding a Cesc return personally I reckon Fellani would/will be a far more important signing. Just not sure an attacking midfielder alongside Jack and Cazorla is what we need right now whereas a tall dominating defensive midfield player (Fellani said its his favoured position) fits the bill perfectly. Heard yesterday a rumour that we might offer Ramsey in part exchange for Fellani and this makes quite a lot of sense to me. Because despite being one of my favourite players and despite gaining a lot of plaudits for the second half of his season I thought Ramsey was eratic and gave the ball away far too often. As I said he's a favourite of mine but I can't help feeling he might be best served starting afresh somewhere else...

  34. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jul 06, 2013, 0:19 #36280

    Noodles, I love your quip about they hate dealing with us as we just waste everybody's time, it could be truer than you think.It reminds me of a mate who used to sell cars,whenever he was advertising he used to insert the words NO TYRE KICKERS PLEASE to put off the ones who where only there for a look with no intention of buying.

  35. Noodles

    Jul 05, 2013, 23:46 #36279

    Ive said it before and I'll say it again this is the same magagment team that f##ked up the Mata deal, couldn't sign and compleatly messed up an ageing mark Shewarzer deal from Fulham and was held to ransom by wally 'dont say anything bad about me or my dad will be on the phone' Walcott ... What hope do we have with real player from a big club.. I bet they hate dealing with us as we just waste everybody's time thinking we are super cleaver!! I think we will sign Higuain and make 4th but if we signed felani we might compete with Chelsea but we are always one player short ...aKa Alonso as we are penny rich pound foolish!!!

  36. John Gooner

    Jul 05, 2013, 23:43 #36278

    All this guff about Higuain being overrated is irrelevant. The only question is: Is he better than what we've got at the moment? Yes, clearly he is. I would love to see cesc back, but it certainly won't happen this season. The signing we really need is Fellaini, but of course the signing we all want is usually the one that "falls through". Carl Rawley, you make a very confused and uninformed point. What you have said is just plain wrong and I feel like more of a 'halfwit' for having read it, engage brain before keyboard.

  37. Carl Rawley

    Jul 05, 2013, 23:14 #36277

    There seems to be a rather unhealthy anti Wenger occupation on this website, which shows that people are more interested in the manager than the actual football club itself. These halfwits should decide whether they are Arsenal fans or just speculators about what Arsene Wenger is doing or not doing. It seems like this cult of anti Wenger is all about hating one man rather than supporting Arsenal Football Club. From what I've read from these people I certainly would not consider them true Arsenal fans,more like a cancer to our great club.

  38. Garygooner

    Jul 05, 2013, 22:07 #36276

    I agree with you there Ron one signing I would be really pleased to see is Felaini. We have been lacking steel in our midfield since patty left and we could do with someone who is a bit nasty aswell. I don't know why we won't just go and pay the price for him!

  39. Ron

    Jul 05, 2013, 21:53 #36275

    Gary G - No probs mate. Respect. Your point is a good one,but do you reckon his type of players needed now? Im more of the view that a bit of a feisty, heavy duty spiteful type like Fellaini in there with Cazorla and Wilshere is what they need now. Guy like him protecting those two type of thing?

  40. BADARSE

    Jul 05, 2013, 21:36 #36274

    Gary Gooner and Ron, you can support my team now, I warn you though, it's a lifetime contract I'm offering, nothing less!

  41. Gary gooner

    Jul 05, 2013, 20:37 #36273

    Hi Ron sorry for being rude. I just wanted to make the point that he was a very good player. I didn't say he was a great or a legend in Arsenals history far from it but I still think if he did come back he would make our team stronger as I feel we missed some of our cutting edge last season without his incisive passing. There is my olive branch I hope you accept it and thanks for refereeing badarse!

  42. Radfordkennedy

    Jul 05, 2013, 20:19 #36272

    Nllz...don't forget if we signed the 4 or 5 players we need right now it would probably cost us 4mill in wages before the season starts and you know the clubs stance on saving a pound note I don't expect anything but the late panic as usual

  43. Ron

    Jul 05, 2013, 19:52 #36271

    BADARSE - Ha Ha. A minor spat matey! Anyway as you mention it, give Eastham modern pitches, modern training and diet, modern football technology and he d blind Fabregas as a player in my view. Fabregas was a good player, very good at times but became hyped as a so called 'great' one in an era where genuine great footballers are very thin on the ground, esp in the EPL and who are propped up by media hype. St Fabregas, St Lampard and the Archangel Gerrard etc etc. Its a wonder there isn't criminal sanctions for ever thinking that none are really and truly that fantastic. Messi is great. Ronaldo is great et al. Fabregas - very good and no more than that. Just my view.

  44. BADARSE

    Jul 05, 2013, 18:39 #36269

    Ron and Gary Gooner, come on now lads, you know my Dad can fight both your Dads! Ron, am certain Gary Gooner meant no real insult, just a figure of speech, and you know I think you are the man! I agree with Gary, and he is only trying to defend his ground, so well done Gary! Now if you tried arguing with Ron about dear old George Eastham, I'd switch to his side. Now kiss and make up.

  45. Ron

    Jul 05, 2013, 17:38 #36268

    Gary Gooner - Yes, quite rude. Its my view that he wasnt everything hes cracked up to be along with others like Nasri and co who Wenger and the Club held up to be great 'winners' in waiting. What the f--k did any of them inc Fabregas win, when they were together before they all said they were leaving to win things? Not sure how many games youve seen but in the Fabregas years, i saw the vast majority of his games and seen him muscled out and out thought in games many, many times. His biggest failing is hes physically quite feeble and the EPL shown him lacking in the dept so often. Hes hardly tore up la liga either as evidenced by the booing hes had from his own fans for the best part of a year. Its just my view. I dont agree with yours but i wont accuse you of being coked up or anything as its pointless and ignorant.

  46. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jul 05, 2013, 17:22 #36267

    nilz21, you could be right, just heard on sky sports the completion of this deal is days off yet the reporter say's but Arsenal fans don't worry Arsenal are (wait for it)still keen, whatever that means.

  47. nilz21

    Jul 05, 2013, 16:32 #36265

    All this talk of Higuin is premature...latest reports from spain say the deals about to collapse as Arsenal have yet to make a formal offer at the asking price of 27 million euros. Add this to Fellani - Dont wanna pay the asking price Jotevic - Dont wanna pay the asking price Williams - Dont wanna pay the asking price Rooney - Dont wanna pay the asking price Tells you everything you need to know about the plan for the summer. So much for Grazidiz big balls talk. The majority of real arsenal fans were right to doubt he would follow through with his promises of competiting with the best.

  48. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jul 05, 2013, 15:48 #36264

    Jumpers for Goalposts, yes they really must,and they must love having such understanding fans, but a more apt word used on here recently is Gullible, certainly at this time of year.

  49. Jack Newman

    Jul 05, 2013, 15:44 #36262

    I have to say, at the very least, Higuanan himself will make the squad stronger, to some extent at least. If he is to sign Cesar, well have a top keeper in his prime form. I wouldn't mind him protecting the Gunners goals. Plus, this transfer also is deemed likely. Other than that, I don't think Rooney will leave, but if he does, he'll probably go Chelsea. As for Fellaini, well you know how much of a penny pincher WENGER is. No need to get worked up for him. Fabregas... An interesting player if he were to return from Barca, but I still doubt he will come back. I wish we signed someone like Tevez. We'd do well with Rooney or Dzeko. But those don't seem like options... Never know. If WENGER is prepared to make that leap of faith for Fellaini, it could be the difference between a trophy or just the plain old top four... Sigh

  50. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Jul 05, 2013, 15:26 #36260

    "Higuain has had over six years at the Bernabeu and scored over 100 goals for the club......." hey that's 16 goals a season on average. What a superstar, right up there with our current strikeforce, AND an Argentina regular to boot (pls remind me where they stand in the current level of football right now?). Simon please take your Rose-tinted glasses off

  51. BADARSE

    Jul 05, 2013, 15:23 #36259

    Jumpers For Goalposts, you tear me up. I pretty much know Arsene Wengers political affiliations, at least I could hazard a good guess. I've seen him criticised for being conservative and socialist. Can we get it right? And what has a persons politics to do with being a good, bad or indifferent manager? Come to that, what has an individuals politics to do with anything, like posting on these pages? Save the insults, he can't hear you.

  52. underachiever

    Jul 05, 2013, 14:38 #36258

    Yes Jumpers, I reckon W,K & G go on Arseblog News and read the comments for a good belly laugh, full of gullible Arsene supporters.

  53. Der Projekt ist Kaput

    Jul 05, 2013, 14:33 #36256

    At least 5 top notch quality players required to make us genuine title contenders. The reason of course that we need so many is that our best players have been allowed to leave without them being adequately replaced. Guess 5 players of the calibre we need will cost £100m plus? Don't know about the rest of you, but I'm preparing myself for another season of wondering if we're going to finish fourth.

  54. Jumpers for Goalposts

    Jul 05, 2013, 14:23 #36255

    Wenger, Kroenke and Gazidis must piss themselves laughing before they go to bed every night and again when they wake up every day. Our playing squad gets weaker year after year but fans still believe all of the stupid rumours and shovel money into the pockets of the afore mentioned greedy buggers. Every year we hear that a huge "war chest" is going to be spent but every year ****e like Gervinho turns up. Wenger is an arrogant, socialist has-been so why does anyone think that this year will be any different??

  55. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jul 05, 2013, 13:57 #36254

    Simon, we never expect a major signing period,but what we do expect (and always get with out fail) is plenty of talk/spin about it,so there's really no need to be gutted, like all of us you should be used to it by now.Higuain ? he could be classed as a major signing(depending on where he's played)and would be welcomed as long as like you say it's not ballsed up, but him on his own will not ensure we have a rewarding season, we'll need two or three more major/class A signings,and we might at long long last have something to look forward to, but we all know what the chances are of that happening.

  56. Graham Simons

    Jul 05, 2013, 13:41 #36253

    I wouldn't want Fabregas back. He epitomised Wenger's approach of ridding the squad of the leviathans of the untouchables and replacing them with youngsters - we saw Vieira, Bergkamp and Henry leave and we replaced them with Fabregas, RVP and Walcott - I know which trio I prefer.

  57. GaryGooner

    Jul 05, 2013, 13:25 #36252

    I am really sorry to be slightly rude but are you on drugs RON. Fabregas was an over rated player.....I dont think so! He was a fantastic player whom i would love to see back in the red and white and i am sure most gooners would agree with that. I dont think he will return (yet) but to say he was over rated absolutely baffles me.COYG

  58. Tony Evans

    Jul 05, 2013, 12:51 #36249

    I wouldn't trust Wenger with my weekly grocery shop, never mind the Arsenal transfer kitty! My level of interest in transfer rumours this summer is zero. It will either be a player (or players) I have never heard of (I can already tick that box - Sanogo) or an over-rated player that no other top team is interested in and Higuain might fit the bill for this one.

  59. John Gooner

    Jul 05, 2013, 10:22 #36243

    Simon, I think you should explain your transfer deadlines to Wenger, I'm sure he hasn't considered it before now. You put a lot of faith in a pre-season training regime at a club with a terrbile history of injuries. I would rather these fictitious signings you speak of stay longer at a club where they get prepared properly and don't break down after a few games. Same old Wenger, a few promising signings to boost morale followed by the inevitable sales to set the squad back a season. 1 season forward, 1 season back year on year. For a self-proclaimed prophet like yourself, I'm surprised you haven't spotted the trends.

  60. BADARSE

    Jul 05, 2013, 9:33 #36240

    A L de Totteridge, I couldn't agree, and disagree more, with your post. Fabregas' abilty is immense, and he is what you say he is, a 'game changer', a real rarity in any level of football, but as rare as ethics in Manchester football circles, when it comes to the Premier League. The part I disagree with is that of Arsene Wenger's influence; he would, in my opinion, be the only catalyst to ensure it happened, were it to happen, and I cannot believe it will. Mind you, an imperative would be his desire. Players like this young man, function with desire at the forefront of their performance levels, without that he would be an empty husk.

  61. Alsace Lorraine de Totteridge

    Jul 05, 2013, 8:40 #36238

    I agree that Fabregas wouldn't want to come back, not with Wenger in charge at least. He might come back if he was going to be in charge, as I believe him to be ambitious in the managerial direction. Interesting that people are downplaying his abilities. Old Walrus features is desperate to keep him out of the Spanish team, but it may be noticed that in major cup finals, when Spain have been up against it, the player who unlocks the stalemate is.....F Fabregas. I would love him to return to help sort out the mess, but it won't happen until the messmaker is gone.

  62. BADARSE

    Jul 05, 2013, 8:16 #36237

    How do I make it through the night? Well, decades ago I distanced myself from gossip. Does that sound wise, obvious, naff? Check your own routines before you dismiss that sentence. We all have a natural urge to acquire information, and how thrilling if we are the first in our circle to break the news? When I adopted my policy it was easier. People weaned on the 'information highway',(how dated that sounds!), are often infected I think. Trawling for kernels, then scraps. The madness that accompanies this procedure is evident. I have people 'telling' me things which at best are guesses, when it comes to transfers. I really stay outside it all, but it chips away, the blowing in my ear never ceases. Simon is advising. Obvious advice? Certainly. Try completely to hold those wishes and desires at bay, it's a tough one. Me I am about to switch off again from any clamour, and coast downhill for a while, until news comes from the Arsenal, or the media announces a 'done' deal. Happy griping people; I see plenty of 'eeyore' moments ahead. Let's just hope those drab, moribund periods ahead, are at least punctuated by some uplifting moments. Now where was I? Ah, yes. Back to the 'Archers', let's have some real drama in my life!

  63. Ron

    Jul 05, 2013, 8:16 #36236

    I'm afraid that i don't see Higuain as 'A' class Simon. If he was such a player he wouldn't be leaving Madrid so easily as they wouldn't let him.Rooney isn't leaving Utd and certainly not for Arsenal. Hes at the best level he'll ever reach there (and he knows it) and he s a declining, problematic player with fitness issues anyway. Fellaini isn't joining Arsenal. Good player and a type much needed, but Wenger won't pay the price. He'll fiddle about with that hoping he'll get him cut price late in the window when Everton have brought in new players and then probably miss out for a few Million. Why would Fabregas go back to a weaker squad than the one he left? I agree with you on the prospect of him though. It's heresy to say it too, but to be honest he was overrated at Arsenal. Good player, but never a truly top one. Big fish at Arsenal amongst the 'project youth' set up that gave him a rating he wouldn't ever have had, say at Utd or even Chelsea Hes gone and should stay gone plus he s too proud to head back to N7 with his tail between his legs and rightly so.

  64. smithy

    Jul 05, 2013, 7:17 #36235

    Unfortunately we have all been here before- wenger talking about big signings and season after season nothing materialises.sanogo and signings like joel campbell are simply not the level of signings we require.Wenger should stay out of the financial deliberations or we could be revisiting another mata situation this transfer window.

  65. garyfootscrayaustralia

    Jul 05, 2013, 0:14 #36234

    I think the chatter around the big name players you mentioned will tail off pretty soon. The club have already completed their priority signature of an unproven, injury prone overseas youth team player for League Cup ties and / or a loan to the Championship. Higuain would seem to be the only name worth realistic consideration.

  66. mark from aylesbury

    Sep 28, 2012, 8:51 #26600

    Though Miquel was excellent very calm and collected and positionally good. Glad for Giroud but did think Chamakh looked more mobile when he came on does this mean he's got his head sorted out? Good all round performance and atmosphere

  67. Canterbury Gooner

    Sep 27, 2012, 23:18 #26599

    @Don I think it's clear to most this is an analysis of our upcoming youngsters and squad players...

  68. Don

    Sep 27, 2012, 21:07 #26598

    I love it how this time every season some Gooners buy into the Wenger project(when will they ever learn?)after a thumping win in the ex Beer cup.Remember Sheff Utd 6-0 the Spuds 4-1 and now last night.You keep world class players like Cesc and RVP by winning leagues and CL's

  69. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 27, 2012, 15:44 #26597

    Good to see plenty of goals and giroud getting of the mark even if he did miss a pen and some of the more senior players doing something to earn their inflated wages.It's good to see the mancs and the chavs being drawn together it makes a change.Walcott likes his PR alright he was probably looking for the nearest interviewer with a mike and camera at full time maybe to tell arsene and us fans AGAIN that talks are still ongoing and it's not all about money it's about where he wants to play.That sounds very like an ultimatum not very long ago a dutch man was being ridiculed and slagged off and called all sorts and still is for doing or saying something similar funny how darling little theo poster boy of project youth isn't receiving the same.Maybe those same people are just waiting till he leaves to let him have it and when he comes back with his new team.

  70. ppp

    Sep 27, 2012, 14:13 #26595

    The obvious potential in the current squad and the encouraging start to the season are two big reasons why we should openly hate Van Persie's guts and give him worse hell then Cashley when he returns with ferguson and his new "friends". To leave a team in need of a leader like he did (slagging us off and whining like a b*tch) makes him a vile coward. There is no other way of putting it. He's a coward. On the plus side well done to the gooner for including far more positive articles this season. The atmosphere at last night's game was good and the many teenagers who attended clearly don't feel the negativity the old timers promote as they were shouting the love from the rooftops from the word go. We need young fans at premier league games in greater numbers to make the place worth going to.

  71. Gee

    Sep 27, 2012, 13:09 #26594

    If we want to compete for trophies (any trophy). We will need a deep and quality squad. That we have Frimpong, Ramsey and Wilshere all fighting for a place on the bench is excellent. Believe me there will be plenty of games to around between now and the end of the season. Not every player can play every game. And when we get into December/January/February when League, FA Cup and Champions league knock outs come every 3 days we will need to call upon these players who can put in a performance whilst some of the better players (Cazorla and Arteta) are given a breather in between. Finally we look like we have a solid competitive squad. We desperately need to keep this lot together for the next 3 seasons and we will win the league at some point. The problem comes when players like Walcott want to leave to do not sign contracts. Squad continuity should be the focus now until Wenger steps down

  72. Mike

    Sep 27, 2012, 12:29 #26593

    Wow, am I reading correctly? - a penalty awarded at the Emirates.....to the home team....when did that last happen?....no wonder they fluffed it

  73. ArrGee

    Sep 27, 2012, 12:11 #26592

    @HowardL - Had you seen Walcott's contribution prior to the goals you would understand the comments. In the first half he had a air shot with his left foot from six yards out with the ball pretty much under control. The thing that seemed to press Walcott into action was the substitution of Giroud, Coquelin and Oxlade-Chamberlain to great applause and to save them for the weekend. Only then did Walcott up his game. Arshavin was superb once he switched with Oxlade Chamberlain to the centre. He may not have been saved for Chelsea, but he may have forced his way onto the bench. Chamakh gave a decent performance coming off the bench. All in all, a very positive evening, even if it was only Coventry in the League Cup.

  74. Dave

    Sep 27, 2012, 11:44 #26590

    Kev think back to a few years ago in the league cup.Home game v **** opposition.We won 6-0 and Vela looked good.Last night Coventry were worse.Yes Giroud and Walnutt scored but against who?Walcott talks bull about playing up front.He cant hold the ball up and when does he ever head a ball?

  75. chris dee

    Sep 27, 2012, 11:12 #26589

    Miguel is good footballer and is a good defender and I thought was our best player last night.I only hope he 'bulks ' up a bit cause he looks a bit lightweight if pitted against Premier League opposition. Whatever Theo says,his best position is wide right,if can only pick up on the 'boring' side of a team game ,tracking back, appreciation of defensive responsiblities and consistency over 90 minutes and a season he will become the fantastic player we all hoped he would be. Once again the atmosphere at these games are far and away better than the League games.

  76. SilverGooner

    Sep 27, 2012, 10:25 #26588

    I was also at the game last night and thought Arshavin put in a great shift. Best I have seen him play for a long, long time - full of confidence, plenty of skill - and he lasted the whole 90 minutes! Fair play to him.

  77. HowardL

    Sep 27, 2012, 9:51 #26587

    I think Kev that you are being a bit hard on Theo. Having seen his goals (albeit on BBC Highlights) they looked accomplished finishing - the second was rather reminiscent of a previous No 14 - so it's a bit unfair to judge him against the quality of the opposition. You didn't do that for Giroud, or we'd still be awaiting his first goal. Having suffered Gervinho hoofing the ball all around the galaxy on Sunday I think Theo deserves more of a chance to prove himself; is Wenger just being his stubborn self, of which we've suffered Denilson, Almunia etc etc? And not surprisingly to me, having watched this embryonic team start to develop, Theo suddenly wants to play for Arsenal again! As does Andrey...

  78. Hamza Ali Baksh

    Sep 27, 2012, 7:39 #26585

    Take a look at our midfield: Cazorla in superb form. Arteta as reliable as ever. Wilshere closing in on match fitness. Diaby making progress. The Ox is doing well. And Ramsey, Rosicky and Arshavin in reserve in case we have everyone else injured... C'mon, you've got to be impressed with that! Against lesser sides, we'd easily be able to play the last-choice 3 of Arshavin-Rosicky-Ramsey or Arshavin-Diaby-Rosicky and be good enough to win some games with Podolski upfront. And on the subject of players upfront, let's hope the Giroud floodgates can now open.