Behind Enemy Lines

A fair few Gooners were in the home sections at Reading



Behind Enemy Lines

Another goal, a few more punches


The League Cup match against Reading threw up a whole host of questions about Arsenal's away ticket policies and those of our opponents.

FA and competition guidelines stipulate that 15% of tickets should be made available to away fans. In this respect Reading came in above this figure. The South Stand seats 4,350. This is 18% of capacity. So far so good.

Except, if tweets to the football correspondent of the Reading Post are anything to go by, Reading fans were unhappy at the number of Gooners amongst them.

Now I suspect if the match had finished 4-0 there would have been precious few complaints, but the following day Reading fans expressed concern and some outrage that Arsenal fans had tickets for the home areas of the ground. Some even going as far to say it could have ended in Chelsea like trouble.

To be fair to Reading, their home games this season have to all intents and purposes been sold out. However, if you look back to a previous League Cup round against Peterborough the attendance was 7,262. Arsenal away tickets sold out in just over an hour to away scheme members and those with enough away 'points'. I know I tried to get one. Not a hope in hell. Yet, home tickets were on sale right up until the day before the match to home fans. I could easily have gone if I had wanted to.

In fact, this is a text exchange I had with a Reading supporter pre-match:
"Going to the match tonight?"
"No. Tickets in the Arsenal end sold out."
"Don't want to mix with our fans?"

So, on the one hand Arsenal fans are being attacked by Reading fans for buying tickets and on the other for not buying tickets!

At heart, there were two problems.
1) A mismatch between away ticket availability and demand.
2) The Arsenal away points scheme.

Availability is a difficult one to address. Clearly Arsenal had the whole of the South Stand, but could probably have sold double their allocation.

The second problem is more of Arsenal's making – the unintended consequences of the away points scheme. On the face of it, rewarding frequent attendees at away matches with priority to buy away tickets and attend cup finals seems fair. instead what happens is a self-perpetuating situation were people buy away ticket with "their" points to keep their away credits topped up, then sell their tickets to people desperate to go, who will never be able to buy away tickets in their own right because they never have enough away points. The perfect vicious circle.

The only way to solve this would be to ensure that every away ticket is used by the person purchasing it. This however would require an enormous amount of co-operation with the away club, who quite reasonably, once they have flogged the ticket are less inclined to worry about it.

Which then leaves the ordinary fan in a dilemma. Should you buy tickets for the home end or forgo the match?

My first Arsenal game was in the Milton Stand at Fratton Park. My friend Neil insisted on shouting “Quinn, you donkey” throughout, which thankfully Pompey fans mistook for questioning the abilities of Mickey rather than Niall. I’ve been in the home end at Leicester, Derby and also Southampton for Ian Wright’s debut hat-trick.

Taking your non-supporting mate or family member to a game is one of the joys of footie... although I don’t think my nephew thanks me for Arsenal v Pompey at Highbury.

Under current circumstances, it is a fact of life. A sale is a sale and 99% of people are there to watch football.

The answer is simple. Show some respect. If you wear colours expect to be shown the door and don't complain about it.

But on the other hand, segregation of fans is historically a recent phenomenon. Chill out. We’re all not Chelsea fans!

(Ed’s note – had a text from Gooner seller Alex regarding the Aldershot v Hendon FA Cup 1st round proper game tomorrow afternoon. Says Alex: “Hendon have done extremely well getting through to the first round proper and many Gooners support them. Arsenal are away and they want as much support as possible. Please mention it on the website”. Done.


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  1. Ron

    Nov 05, 2012, 16:35 #27649

    The last time i did it was at OT for the 6-1 loss in 2000. I found it dead easy to keep quiet that day!! Stayed till the end too. Must have been mad.Recall thinking that was a freak result and then 11 years on .................... the rest is history.

  2. Rocky RIP

    Nov 04, 2012, 16:26 #27581

    It's an interesting question - go, and sit with the home fans or not go at all? Having done it one too many times, I've vowed never to do it again. Supressing your emotions is unbearable. I sat with Chelsea fans when they beat us at Highbury, John Bumstead got the winner. Being surrounded by some ghastly specimens with appalling dress sense - tacky chains and sov' rings aplenty - and a weak line of banter and casual racism, was really hard work. I couldn't pretend to look pleased. It conflicted with every fibre in my body. I also sat with Soton fans when we lost at St Mary's. They sniffed me out quite quickly. All it did was highlight how much more in common I have with our fans (apart from the obvious club choice.) Going away is all about being amongst your own and defying the numbers. I didn't belong to these clans. A different breed to us Gooners. Does anyone remember the bloke who sat with the Sp*rs fans in the Clock End at Highbury and revealed his Arsenal shirt at the end?!

  3. Jason

    Nov 03, 2012, 18:04 #27499

    After around 30 mniutes i was wondering if i could watch Darts on sky again after hearing their ad break music being played after every Reading goal.Good to see and hear us giving it back to their fans good and proper after the game.Made a long journey home that bit more bearable.

  4. EQ

    Nov 02, 2012, 23:15 #27480

    I know these are 1 off cup games, but in the same scenario could Reading not just extend our allocation, like when Wimbledon used to give us two /three sides of their ground?

  5. What was the point in leaving Highbury?

    Nov 02, 2012, 20:50 #27477

    I was in the Reading end. Great fun in the first half!!!

  6. Warren

    Nov 02, 2012, 20:20 #27475

    If we're talking "away ends" I did forget to mention in dispatches the time that myself and the editor were in the gods at Torino. The Carabinieri were aggresively filtering English fans... Kev speaks Italiano. I don't. At half time he nipped to the toilet leaving me with instructions to keep my mouth shut. Of course, my neighbour said something incomprehensible in Italian. I answered in my impeccable French. "Je ne comprends pas". "Ah! You are English," he replied. Happy ending. We swapped scarves. I still have it :-D

  7. Alex fernandiniho

    Nov 02, 2012, 19:11 #27474

    Tottaly agree a few years ago when we beat spurs 3-1 at the lane had no choice but to sit in the away end, turned out to be brilliant the look of all the spurs faces around me was worth sitting in the away end, and to top it off was caught on match of the day coyg

  8. HowardL

    Nov 02, 2012, 18:35 #27473

    I was in the away end and it was great. Probably more than a bit challenging to cheer goals 6 and 7 if you were in the Reading section - what was left of it that is...

  9. exiled & dangerous

    Nov 02, 2012, 17:06 #27471

    Reminds me of the away match with Liverpool in 1991, on our way to the league title. Was in hospital when the tickets went on sale, went up the day before the game and bought a ticket on the Kop. Was stood about half way up the terrace, Paul Merson scores at the other end, I leap up about six feet, arms aloft, "YEEESSSSSOHBOLLOCKS!!" Cue huge laughter, a couple of angry stares and a huge bloke next to me says "leave him alone, he's only watching his team" Got away with that one, then....

  10. Warren

    Nov 02, 2012, 16:51 #27470

    Mr Spy. How are your away credits? I seem to remember you offering ME away tickets to a Reading fixture in a previous season to keep either yours or someone else's points up ;-) You know that a good many of our acquaintances do exactly what I am talking about and that I will not buy them from them!!! I can't comment about those buying for others but I went online on the day that tickets went on sale for this fixture at midday. I have a season ticket. I was not able to purchase any tickets for this fixture for myself. The site said "Sold Out" which I took at face value. It would be interesting to know if since the ticket buying system asks you to "friend" people you wish to buy tickets for when in a group whether this confers an advantage to those in such a group at the expense of individual single ticket buyers.

  11. Paul Smith

    Nov 02, 2012, 16:42 #27469

    This was hardly Villareal away, they weren't rocking horse **** rare. Ultimately Reading wouldn't give a flying one either if there are gooners in their end, as it means they get the cash. I thing one point per away game is a little bit flawed in principle, but clubs like Chelsea incentivise their fans to turn up to home games by awarding credits, which is nigh on hilarious, they do have a tiered away scheme credit though which i kind of agree with, 1pt for a weds night at Burnley is worth more than West Ham on a sat evening for example.

  12. Highbury Spy

    Nov 02, 2012, 14:01 #27466

    Thanks Warren, the last thing we need is having our identity checked at turnstyles to make sure everyone is using the ticket actually allocated to them. Yet more bureaucracy the football world doesn't need. As if being allocated an actual seat at away games is not enough restriction of personal freedom!

  13. Jackoff

    Nov 02, 2012, 13:38 #27465

    You're wrong about how hard it was to get a ticket in the away end. I have access to two memberships - one with 8 credits and the other with 3 and was able to get a ticket on each of them. Ironically, one of them went to waste as the person who it was intended for got stuck in New York as a result of the storm. Your point about away credits is a good one though. For the Schalke game next week, you don't get the credit simply by buying the ticket, you (apparently) will get given a code on entry to the stadium which you then need to punch into the website upon your return to receive the credit. I believe they've done something similar with other away European games as there are Arsenal staff in attendance, but it's probably not feasible for domestic fixtures.

  14. Alan Sunderland's bubble perm

    Nov 02, 2012, 13:28 #27464

    "Tickets sold out in just over an hour to Away scheme members and those with enough away points". Sorry, no they didn't. I co-ordinate away ticket buying for my group of fellow Season Ticket holders, 6 of whom wanted to go to this game. I went online the day they went on sale and bought 4 tickets using those memberships with enough away credits at that point in time and then went on again the next day to buy a further 2, including using one membership which, at that point, had no away credits at all.