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The Good, the Bad and the Arsenal

Giroud – Great goals


A very mixed performance from Arsenal saw Brighton eliminated from the FA Cup, and on the balance of the 90 minutes, an away win was the right result. However, the Premier League side did not make things easy for themselves.

The starting eleven for the cup tie, the first visit to Brighton’s new Amex stadium, raised eyebrows. Two reserve full backs and a midfield trio which included two long term absentees whose match fitness was questionable and Aaron Ramsey. Or three crocks if one is being harsh. It certainly wasn’t as strong a line-up as was fielded in the previous round. However, it confirmed that 4th place and Champions League entry is a bigger priority than a domestic cup with Liverpool and Stoke on the horizon in the days to follow. The rights and wrongs of that policy is another debate, but it was telling that Wenger had to bring on three first choice players to win the game.

The first half was a mixed affair. Giroud’s goal was a touch of class, worthy of the player he was bought to replace by the club last summer. However the Brighton equalizer exposed the brittleness of Arsenal’s defence. Of all the changes, the selection of Andre Santos at left back was the one that had the away section the most concerned. Gus Poyet is no fool, and with Podolski and Santos on the left flank, the majority of Brighton’s attacks were concentrated on this side.

I hoped I would not see Santos start at left back again. I am willing to see if he can do some kind of a job as a more forward left sided player, but as part of the final defensive line, he is a joke. That he has won 22 caps for Brazil says more about his national team’s football philosophy than it does about the qualities of the player. His purchase is beginning to put me in mind of Ali Dia, who claimed to be the cousin of George Weah and convinced Graeme Souness to sign him for Southampton. At least Souness only gave him a deal for one month. We’re stuck with Santos for, presumably, another 18 months, or possibly even 30. His signing was a piece of gross misjudgment which is costing the club dearly. Ivan Gazidis can complain about the influence of petrodollars, but the club’s wage bill is pretty high, and its inefficient use does the chances of success few favours.

Wojciech Szczesny hardly covered himself in glory for Brighton’s first goal, but the cross from near the corner flag should have been closed down in the first place. Lukas Podolski did not make any effort to prevent the cross and Santos had completely lost interest in protecting the flank. So 1-1 at half time, and it was difficult at that stage to distinguish which team was in the top flight.

Arsenal started the second half a little better, and Podolski hit the bar with a free kick. However, it was another moment of magic from Giroud, given the chance to hussle for a shot thanks to a divine ball from Diaby, that re-handed the visitors the advantage. Giroud’s strength and willingness to battle shone through at times in this game, his hold up play something Theo Walcott could never give the team in the same position. It was an impressive display and it is reassuring that he is unphased by missing some of the chances he has, and keeps plugging away. Sure, Arsenal could benefit with the addition of another top quality centre forward, but Giroud is beginning to justify his purchase and growing in confidence as he plays more games in this country. He will be needed to perform well against Liverpool and Stoke, but there is no reason he cannot do exactly that.

Brighton equalized again, once more thanks to a cross from Arsenal’s left side. And finally, Arsène Wenger made the switches the team had been crying out for. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain has been going through a lean period when he has had the opportunity to play, and Walcott offered greater penetration. Rosicky was predictably tiring on his first game back and Jack Wilshere offered the drive that the team had been missing from the midfield. Gibbs for Santos was a complete no brainer, cheered loudly by a relieved travelling support.

The Gunners were transformed and upped their game, the pressure eventually bringing about Walcott’s winner. It was a match the team made unnecessarily hard work of, due to their troubles at the back, but progress is progress and for now it’s objective achieved and some key players rested. The team is in the last sixteen so let’s see if the draw is kind to them later today.

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  1. mbg

    Jan 13, 2017, 17:50 #96955

    John F, excellent shout, yes not only do other fans and managers want TOF to remain because like ourselves they know we're going nowhere with/under him, they would/will not be happy when he goes because they know we're a sleeping giant with fantastic potential, and the devastation we can and would cause under a proper ambitious manager, what more of a reason do we need to get rid.

  2. mbg

    Jan 13, 2017, 17:27 #96954

    Bonzo, 102712, of course he has, now that really would be a blog, and one worth reading, and there'd be no need of £50 to bribe us. wenger out.

  3. mbg

    Jan 13, 2017, 16:01 #96951

    Rose tinted, write a blog (is that what you call it ?) offering £50 in cash ? it probably would be ignored alright as it would be just more wengerite spin to try and deflect, there's a big difference in talking and writing openly about your messiah's failings and failures (of which there are many) especially when you've no choice anymore, but we all know where your loyalty lies (just like others who know he's past it and his time is up) but would be devastated if he left and indeed will be, and indeed don't want him to and would keep him in a heart beat. wenger out.

  4. Ron

    Jan 13, 2017, 11:54 #96934

    i reckon those of us there in 2011 for the 8-2 will forever have that defeat imprinted in our minds wont we. It wasn't a defeat it was the day that a massacre finally told me that AFC as we once knew it was gone. I thought that AW would have resigned after that loss too. Arsenes apologists have always dressed that day up in terms that it was a mauling that was 'always going to happen' due to the circumstances of the time. Unbelievable then as it remains now. We expected to be beaten that day but not obliterated out of sight. I was quite glad that it was the start of that Season that i had surrendered my Season ticket. Our away support was great that day. Vocal even after the end of the game. I dont think they would be if the same happened again now! The 5-2 at Liverpool a few yrs later felt nearly as bad though. After that first 20 mins we were thinking Liverpool would score perhaps 10 goals that day. We rallied a bit but they went into cruise control thankfully.It was a disgraceful surrender though which matched the 8-2 debacle. How many times have the team surrendered this last 8 years? Countless times. I think its a risk thats still to this day always likely to repeat itself.

  5. John F

    Jan 13, 2017, 11:44 #96933

    There is a thin line between looking on the positive side and turning a blind eye.I suspect many contributers on here can see that Arsenal as a club has huge potential that is being held back by lack of ambition and poor coaching.I would suggest that the critics of the present regime are the positive ones as they want change not the status quo.I genuinely think our rivals are more then happy with Arsene remaining as they would fear what a change in attitude at Arsenal would mean.A big club with a forward thinking board and a top manager would have them all worried.

  6. Cyril

    Jan 13, 2017, 11:09 #96932

    Interesting article today telling us that Arsenal generate the highest in gate receipts with RM. We knew that anyway. As for wet sales, they could generate far more. I was at a beer point and ordered a pint and started chatting with two other lads randomly and managed to go thru the history of the GG era by the time she returned with my pint, I got my cash out and then she said "no cash just cards. Well we had all been in the queue for 10 mins, so you can imagine. I said where is the sign? . "We don't have one". I ended up buying the others a beer on my card or there would have been a riot and that's for the taste of the stuff.. As fletch said to godbar in the dinner queue, " be kind to the kid, it's his first day, give him a small portion!

  7. Exeter Gunner

    Jan 13, 2017, 10:17 #96931

    "dwelling on negatives" i.e. focusing on the fundamental flaws that prevent Arsenal from competing, is what's required within and without the club if there's to be any hope of competing in the future. Of course, you're not going to want to do that if what you want most of all is simply for Wenger to remain.

  8. Paulo75

    Jan 13, 2017, 10:12 #96930

    Pointless article when the bigger picture is looming larger

  9. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Jan 13, 2017, 10:06 #96929

    Don't be too hard on Simon. He's just another meeeeeeedja wanabee looking to increase his Twatter following. Tough job, but hey, someone's gotta do it.

  10. Arseneknewbest

    Jan 13, 2017, 10:02 #96928

    Bard - Nice one. Despite the grim reality implicit in your last post, that has made my day. Comedy gold. That result was the one which broke the chihuahua's back for me. I was CONVINCED he'd be getting his cards the following day, but here we are, 5 1/2 years and numerous other embarrassments later. What a fiasco.

  11. Bard

    Jan 13, 2017, 9:54 #96927

    Good on you Simon, Im all for positivity. I was Old Trafford when we got spanked 8-2. All my mates were in despair at the abject surrender and calling for Wenger's head but I said, rather like you, lets look on the bright side of life, at least we dont have to live up here.

  12. Arseneknewbest

    Jan 13, 2017, 9:16 #96926

    Jamee son - I would have thought you'd have been too dim-witted to understand the definition of plagiarism, having only read autobiographies by your beloved chihuahua and the entire oeuvre of Katie Price in your miserable swamp-bound dwelling. And despite your endless cack about sodom and gomorrah (yes please, but not in that order!), you're too thick to understand all of the mythology in the bible. The funny thing is that you soooo desperately want to be taken seriously on here as the sole AKB, yet you alone are responsible for diminishing your credibility by reheating badarsio's verbiage on here. You're another specialist in failure it would seem. On reflection, you have to agree that your kids did the right thing in jettisoning your sorry dilated ass!

  13. Seven Kings Gooner

    Jan 13, 2017, 9:16 #96925

    Simon: I enjoy reading your blog, but many of us cannot not focus on the positives because the negatives are so obvious and alarming. I tell anyone who will listen in my Arsenal supporting family that one day I think we will turn up at a good away team's ground (Bayern do for you) and Arsenal will ship double figures in goals - I am very serious with that assumption. Our defending is not a negative, it is appalling, to the point where I think any manager in any of the 4 divisions with their own coaching staff could do a better job. I honestly believe that if Pulis took over in the summer and kept the same players, he would make a better challenge for the PL than Arsene and his "Keystone Cops" defensive tactics (tactics LOL) that we have now - there I never thought I would say it but I have now. I think this year 4th place will be beyond us which will put us out of the nonsense that is the Champions League. Entering the Europa Cup would be more realistic as it reflects much better our current status as a football club.

  14. Bonzo

    Jan 13, 2017, 8:45 #96924

    Thatsimonrose - surely then you will have realised a long time ago that Wengo has reached a plateau and is unable to compete for titles and even less likely the Champions League. That's why we want him gone. On that understanding you'd be better off putting your energies into a media Wenger out campaign.

  15. thatsimonrose

    Jan 13, 2017, 8:28 #96923

    Entertaining comments as always! I could write a blog here offering £50 in cash and some wouldn't notice and still reply "Typical AKB! Wenger out!" I've talked and written openly about Wenger flaws since the 2001 FA Cup Final and see all the same issues that many do, I just try to pick out positives as it's healthier than dwelling on negatives. Anyone here who follows me on Twitter will know that I'm not gazing longingly or Rose-tintedly into Wenger's eyes, I'd just like us to do as well as possible. And anyway, I don't even wear glasses.

  16. Plymouth Brethren Service Crew

    Jan 13, 2017, 8:14 #96922

    Oi! Jamee, you've been mouthing off about God like yer own him! We're going to settle this one on one. Next Jesus meet-up we'll be seeing you Sunny boy!

  17. Bonzo

    Jan 13, 2017, 6:49 #96921

    Some excellent detective work on here. I wonder if the general hubbub over the now fake Badarse was somehow due to his timeframe being a time when the site was back and forth with the AKB's still holding some power. Now we just have a mad Jamerson and a Spaniel who repeats Wenger must stay ad nauseam. As Kevin alluded to himself. The conversation is more or less over until he goes.

  18. mbg

    Jan 12, 2017, 23:43 #96920

    Cornish, cheers, yes I was very sceptical myself and normally wouldn't have bothered but I just wanted to nip him in the bud just in case, of course everybody is welcome on here no matter how long they have been away, and entitled to come back with their views when ever they like, but one thing a lot of posters on here will not put up with is for them to come back giving it large to others and talking gobbledegook and all the rest as if they've/he never left, and the reason they got their/his arses spanked so many times, and took the huff and left in the first place.

  19. A Cornish Gooner

    Jan 12, 2017, 22:13 #96919

    Bonzo, mbg. As Exeter explained, these latest 'Badarse' posts are Jabba cutting and pasting old Baddie posts. This is the original post from 2014: BADARSE 23:20pm 17th Jul 2014 How amusing Gooner89, you criticise the writer for daring to 'insult' those of your ilk, then proceed to lace your post with insults suggesting that anyone with opposing views to you, ie those who would support the current manager, are a biscuit short of a barrel. The key to this is that the facts presented have different conclusions drawn by individuals. The 'lumping' together of supporters, as a polarised section is misrepresentative of specific views, attitudes and approaches to most things, not least the manager of a football club. I happen to think the Mayor of London is a buffoon, the other day a group of people had an alternative view. Right? Wrong? You decide, but whatever your decision someone will oppose it, be sure on that score. It's OK to disagree, the custard pie throwing act is just plain silly. Welcome back GoonerRon, the next bun fight is scheduled for 9am. - Post No. 57137

  20. mbg

    Jan 12, 2017, 19:59 #96918

    Bard, yes I think your right, especially with all these new waves/wavelengths (I think rose tinted is spending to long on the beach or with his testicles wired up to jump leads at AKB central command) maybe their microwaves been picked up from the star ship enterprise by Girouds quiff, yes it's on, they might as well give us the trophy now.

  21. Bonzo

    Jan 12, 2017, 19:58 #96917

    Badarse - back to the glorious old days. You're polarising supporters yourself! What's a DM ? It's just as polarising as an AKB or a WOB. Ps are you going to call out Jamerson for using terms such as Mong and Homo. Or back him as usual just because he holds your Wenger world view?

  22. CORNISH GOONER

    Jan 12, 2017, 19:27 #96916

    Gordon Bennett, a complete nutter/troll "returns" & any sensible discussion of the goings-on @ Wengerville goes out of the window. Ignore & return to a review of The Rose Tinted Files. Hang on a minute - Giroud & Perez the new "dynamic duo"? Bournemouth, Preston? Hum, don't think so. To sum up, mbg style - Wenger out (No Country for An Old Man)

  23. David

    Jan 12, 2017, 17:55 #96915

    @Arseneknewbest- be fair to the truly deranged Jamerson; he is,after all, friends with the guy whose name is a literal translation of anus horibillus:Badarse. Good to see that good old garrulous drivel back on these pages.

  24. Peter

    Jan 12, 2017, 17:21 #96914

    Well done Simon Rose you have got it correct about Perez position on the wing. I have watched him so may times for Deportivo La Coruna and he is not a central attacker but a winger who can come inside and shoot and also find other players. Wenger when he bought him said he was a central attacker. Not true. Sell Theo and keep Lucas Perez in that position. He will not score that many goals around 10/15 which is not bad for a winger.

  25. Exeter Gunner

    Jan 12, 2017, 16:41 #96913

    RIP Graham Taylor. Actually the author of some of my most devastating football related moments. Me and my mates were planning to travel to USA '94, we assumed England would qualify for that World Cup... And as a kid was so miserable after Watford knocked us out of the cup in '87 my mum told me off for being ungrateful when she took us to Pizza Hut in Wood Green that Saturday evening.

  26. Bard

    Jan 12, 2017, 16:15 #96911

    What a potent combo, Giroud and Perez ? I think we could really go places with those two. Perhaps we dont need Sanchez and Wally... er. come on Simon Im all for positively but really. Hola baddie glad you found your router, you took your time. Westie went AWOL when you left. My best guess is madam Jules locked him in a small darkened room. While you were away Jamerson took a liking to your alter ego and started posting under your name. Most of us knew because the standard Baddie test is to read your posts before bedtime. I usually manage two or three lines before falling asleep. If I do I know its you.

  27. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Jan 12, 2017, 16:08 #96910

    What to say about Graham Taylor. Well, his selections often beggared belief (Andy Sinton?) Did strike me as being in way over his head as Engerlund manager but a decent enough chap and as Ron mentioned already his record does hold up. His Watford were our bogey side in the early/mid 80's; league P10 W3 D1 L6 plus that infamous QF in 1987.

  28. Paul Ward

    Jan 12, 2017, 16:02 #96909

    Suprised Simon can mention the words defensive shape and AFC in the same article to be honest. Ropey defending has become a trademark of Wengers teams ever since Campbell departed, taking the last remnants of on the pitch organisation and leadership with him.

  29. Seven Kings Gooner

    Jan 12, 2017, 15:47 #96908

    Hi Ron - No I would never want Van Dijk here whilst Arsene was in control, god forbid. No the ex Celtic lad would be ideal coming here but with a completely new team, anyone who could get back our GG defensive mindset!

  30. mbg

    Jan 12, 2017, 15:46 #96907

    Badarse, your only back and your calling for heads ? what right have you to call for anyone's head ? your just a blow in, a newbe again, you have to be respected and earn it before you do that or have that right, you never had it or earned it before and it will take a long long time before you ever do, if ever, but you always were above your station weren't you, obviously you've learned nothing in all this time and still are. wenger out.

  31. mbg

    Jan 12, 2017, 15:24 #96906

    Paul, and the funniest thing of all, or Sadest is he, and other AKBs believe it. You couldn't make it up.

  32. Exeter Gunner

    Jan 12, 2017, 15:15 #96905

    I think Cornish Gooner and John F are onto it - it's Jamerson pasting in ancient Badarse posts. What a strange, and rather sad, individual Jamerson is.

  33. John F

    Jan 12, 2017, 15:04 #96904

    Baddie just to prove it is you can you tell me where your dad comes from as I remember you posting it in the past,after all we could be falling for Jameson pretending to be the website editor then replying as badarse.

  34. Ron

    Jan 12, 2017, 15:02 #96903

    Bonzo - true but hes great sport to torment and his more hypocritical moments made for some explosive posting. He was like a lone ANZAC at Gallipoli when EGs GGs and MJ s howitzers were turned on him and it was great fun when he took the hump.

  35. Exeter Gunner

    Jan 12, 2017, 14:51 #96902

    I didn't think it could be Jabberson doing a Badarse parody. Quite clearly Badarse has returned as a parody of himself.

  36. Bonzo

    Jan 12, 2017, 14:49 #96901

    Poor Ron - Badarse is like a bunny boiler girlfriend who gives you all the sweet come on then decides as the result of some minor comment that you have to forfeit your life through poison in your tea and why not cut up all your suits and take the beloved dog on a walk never to return. We've all been there! Badarse I'm starting to relive some very painful memories.

  37. John A

    Jan 12, 2017, 14:48 #96900

    Good player Perez. If we signed Payet it would be good business at this time and show serious intent - but we won't.

  38. A Cornish Gooner

    Jan 12, 2017, 14:40 #96899

    Has Badarse returned? Well, yes and no. 'His' latest offering seems pretty similar to this one: "Badarse 17:02pm 8th Dec 2014 E/G your last post really tickled me, really funny. @Ron good post as often is the case, but if you don't see any posters calling for AW's head NOW then you can borrow my red and white tinted glasses, the sixth post on this thread calls for his head right now. @ Gaz, if people like JAMIE and myself were ignored who could anyone vent their frustrations on, or blame for the poor hand life has dealt them? Plastic or vinyl jj? You are the Tupperware king after all. - Post No. 66345" I think that's what Jabba did in the previous thread.

  39. Bonzo

    Jan 12, 2017, 14:38 #96898

    So the Badarse who kindly asked me to crawl under a rock the real Badarse? I'd hate to have called him a fascistic clown in error. Sorry to hear of Graham Taylor's passingRIP

  40. Arseneknewbest

    Jan 12, 2017, 14:33 #96897

    Badarsio - Hmmmmmm - I remain to be convinced. Why not supply us with a generic account of where you've been for the last 12 months (HMP Strangeways? Sailing round the world? Writing your memoires - god forbid?)and why you decided to absent yourself, and your offerings might have a little more credibility. You could also redeem yourself by offering to condemn Jamee son's rampant bigotry, something that you singularly failed to do during your last spell on here. You won't be surprised to know that during your absence his behaviour deteriorated even further. I recall of old just how much you hated to take advice from anyone, even if it was well-intentioned, but think about it. I'm sure you don't enjoy being tarred with the same brush as the suffolk numpty.

  41. John F

    Jan 12, 2017, 14:31 #96896

    His Watford side of the eighties really was very good.I remember standing on the North bank stunned as Watford put 4past us in a 4-2 victory in the FA cup,they were outstanding that day.

  42. mbg

    Jan 12, 2017, 14:08 #96895

    Exeter, yes isn't it hilarious how the wengerites always try and find a silver lining in anything. You couldn't make it up.

  43. Ron

    Jan 12, 2017, 14:01 #96894

    Very sad to hear Graham Taylor has died too. A nice man, humble and seemed very genuine. Did well at all of his Clubs and his record as England Coach stands well with any of the other lame ducks theyve ever appointed to run that charade. R.I.P Mr Taylor

  44. mbg

    Jan 12, 2017, 13:52 #96893

    You can talk about silly wavelengths (the only wavelengths they have is in their hair)and fluid combinations shifting here or there all you like it's just more rubbish trying to divert from your messiah's failings, because as usual you've forgotten (very conveniently on purpose)the biggest problem and obstacle of all in this and on a completely different planet let alone wavelength an old past it manager. wenger out now.

  45. Redshirtswhitesleeves

    Jan 12, 2017, 13:50 #96892

    John F, just heard about Graham Taylor, very sad news. I remember the disgraceful media campaign against him led by the Sun and their turnip headline. His dignity and class during that time spoke volumes for the man. RIP

  46. Ron

    Jan 12, 2017, 13:49 #96891

    SKG - Van Dykes looked good all yr hasn't he. Very good last night as you say. Really wished Saints had have hit 3 or 4 past them as they should have done though. Would you be cruel enough to invite Van Dyke to play in a Wenger defence? He d soon look like Senderos in disguise once he realised a CH at Arsenal has to double up as a full back too!! Hi Simon - i think Perez will have his little moments as does Giroud and flatter to deceive, but both are just very useful squad players as i see them. At smaller Clubs both would be invaluable.

  47. jjetplane

    Jan 12, 2017, 13:45 #96890

    9 years of Untold are being celebrated today and the site is getting so many posts it has crashed. That was the fake news which Atwood would like to promote. The reality is 2 postings and one of them Walter slurp slurp. I ****ing love that site and so should Simon or perhaps he feels they are a little extreme and may damage his career? Anyway - if you want to hear Little Mix they will be performing in the summer at the Ems. Ox is to do a rap guesting with his new tunnel dance and plans for Olly to go into the jungle as a celeb to die for are just a couple of pieces of silver away. All that remains now is for Arsenal to eventually break the Scouser's record for not winning the PL. Big call but is they put Monsieur (sic) in deep freeze who knows?

  48. John F

    Jan 12, 2017, 13:35 #96889

    Sad to hear about Graham Taylor ,Always came across as a decent chap on radio and as a Manager.

  49. mbg

    Jan 12, 2017, 13:23 #96887

    Just like a bus they all come along together, no doubt the SIF's chief bathroom attendant old circular will be next. wenger out now.

  50. jjetplane

    Jan 12, 2017, 13:21 #96886

    Please refer to Oliver as Scorpion Man and great news is he has signed up for life along with rwo other hyped Frenchman so le Wengo has a new French spine which clinically is broken, complacent, self satified and bereft/frightened of the big boys. These signingings signal Arsenole have little intention of chasing honours on the big stage but now that the domestic cups are out of reach period what is there left to play for? Top Six. Simon - for all your own hype you really have little ambition for Arsenal to become a trophy hunting club again. Reckon is things carry on Tottenham and Chelsae will be running London football.

  51. DJ

    Jan 12, 2017, 12:51 #96885

    The news that Giroud has just signed a contract extension is proof that Wenger is going to extend his own. No self respecting manager with championship winning aspirations would have the prancing peacock leading their attack.

  52. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Jan 12, 2017, 12:25 #96884

    As per usual with Simon Rose-tinted Glasses, all is wonderful in Arsenal land. The title's on its way.

  53. Redshirtswhitesleeves

    Jan 12, 2017, 11:58 #96883

    Whoopee- keystone kos, Coquelin and giroud have all signed new deals to stay at the club. I can barely contain my excitement. It was all worth leaving Highbury after all! Just waiting for Monsieur Wenger himself to announce his new 2 year contract extension that he so richly deserves and then I can sleep sound at night. Up the gunners

  54. Kenny

    Jan 12, 2017, 11:45 #96881

    Reading this article is like the last 13 years of mediocrity didnt happen.It was all just a bad dream(cue Bobby Ewing).After two games v 10 men Bournemouth and championship Preston DB10 and TH 14 have been reincarnated.The future is going to be wonderful We will win the league by 12 points beware Bayern beware the rest of Europe who needs Messi Ronaldo Suarez and Bale we have Prez and Giroud.Get your money on Perez to win next years Ballon D'or and then replace Messi at Barca.Simon Rose is really Ivan Gazidis

  55. Website Editor

    Jan 12, 2017, 11:40 #96880

    Jamerson now posting as Badarse (and deleted)

  56. jeff wright

    Jan 12, 2017, 11:25 #96879

    Ah so ! Is it really Brian? Possibly because I see that you are still struggling with the complexities of 'it's' and 'its' .I will offer some advice to you Baddie 'it's' is an abbreviation for ' it is' and 'its' refers to something specific such as the dog licked its tail .In the case of Monsieur Wenger his devotees lick another part of his anatomy . Although it would not surprise me if he had a tail and cloven hoofs. I have heard that when he departs he leaves a whiff of brimstone behind. Good old Arsene.

  57. Paul

    Jan 12, 2017, 11:14 #96878

    Oh no they have let Simon Rose out of his padded room again.A very lucky 3-3 draw v Bournemouth and a very lucky win v Preston and we have found the new Bergkamp and Henry.This really is bull of he highest order and a sign of how far Arsenals standards really have slipped to.But the likes of Rose and his fellow AKB's are happy with this.Just heard Giroud an Arsenal centre forward who in 4 seasons has never once scored more than 16 league goals has been "rewarded" with a new contract.The summer we signed Giroud we offer just £40m for Suarez.This club is rotten to the core.Wengers legacy making Arsenal also rans

  58. jeff wright

    Jan 12, 2017, 11:04 #96876

    Bournemouth having to play with 10 men for the last 20 minutes when ahead had a big impact on the result. Had they managed to keep 11 players on field I suspect that we would not have scraped a 3-3 draw in a game in which, deja vu Preston, we were outplayed for long periods by lower class opposition. It will take more than an 'instinctive partnership' between Giroud and Perez to compensate for the weak midfield and the comical Keystone Cops type of shambles that Wenger calls a defence. I have to agree with the views of others on the poor GK situation the ex-chav motorcycle courier is obviously well past his best but Ospina is no better .Good old Arsene.

  59. Exeter Gunner

    Jan 12, 2017, 10:32 #96873

    Perez and Giroud being involved in a couple of goals together means they've formed an 'instinctive partnership'? We have an internal solution to the loss of Sanchez and Ozil then. Sign that contract, Arsene!

  60. chris dee

    Jan 12, 2017, 10:18 #96871

    Blimey!I've read some nonsensical claptrap before ,but this takes the biscuit. 'Perez and Giroud's joint wavelength' 'A fluid 4231 shifting to a 41122' 'We've stuck to 4231 for some time so do we need to switch to a 442?'Jeez.here's someone with a lot of time on his hands!

  61. Rose-tinted Rubbish

    Jan 12, 2017, 9:45 #96870

    Simon the AKB continues to enthuse us with his verbal poo. More Rose-titned B.S today. Simon's latest trick, after years of being made to look an absolute Fool through his blind backing of his Lord Wenger, who has proven so incompetent he can't even win as many titles as Leicester...Simon's latest trick is to completely stop pushing his Arsene Apologies and to now make out that Perez and Giroud are the equivalent of Bergkamp and Henry! LOL. Simon's "evidence"? Their AMAZING synergy against some of the biggest clubs in Europe: namely Preston North End, and wee Bournemouth. Did you mention relegation-bound Palace yet Simon mini-me Wenger? Hahahahaha. Pathetic. Simon give up. Do us a favour this is insulting to anyone with a brain. You've spent years concocting various excuses for why Wenger WILL dominate, and 12 years later, the guy is an unqualified failure. Perez is rubbish. The proof is that when Arsenal face Chelski, Citeh, United or Liverpool, Perez will be NOWEHRE near the first 11. Mind you, I'm real glad to see that a £17m panic buy has his occasional uses against powerhouses like Preston, Palace and Bournemouth. Considering how good this Perez is supposed to be isn't it weird he's never come anywhere near being selected for Spain at under-16s, under 18s, under 21s or full international level? How strange. It's almost as if this Perez is an older journeyman that no big club would seriously look at. But hey. £17m for the odd goal against Preston and Bournemouth. IN ARSENE WE TRUST! Hahahahaha

  62. Seven Kings Gooner

    Jan 12, 2017, 9:25 #96868

    Anyone watch Van Dijk last night? He gave a superb display of defending, plus he brilliantly protected the space behind him, reminded me of a certain Mr Campbell in his prime. Under a different regime I would see him as a key part of the rebuilding of our team.

  63. Arseneknewbest

    Jan 12, 2017, 8:52 #96867

    Simon - Big up yourself for starting what looks likely to be an annus (no Jamee, it means "year" in latin - don't get aroused) horribilis in lots of ways. However, I think you're trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear here. They're both decent players who combined well for a scrambled late goal against a tiring and ordinary PNE. And how often does Giroud lay on ozil-esque pinpoint crosses as he did at Bournemouth? General Franco haircut notwithstanding, Perez has shown some quality and should be given some more pitch time (if Sancho and Ozy leave that'll certainly happen!). But lets see this nascent telepathic partnership work when it matters, i.e. against chelski. Keegan-Toshack, Messi- Suarez, Henry-Bergkamp it ain't; well not yet anyway.

  64. Deighty

    Jan 12, 2017, 8:48 #96866

    Smithy, you're bang on mate, Wenger will kill off any of his natural way of playing.

  65. John F

    Jan 12, 2017, 8:41 #96865

    Perez on the right and the Ox on the left ,they join a long list of players Wenger has played out of position.It has frustrated me ever since he first played Freddie out wide after he was playing really well in the middle.The players lose confidence,get the crowd on their back and in Campbell's case never recover .Wenger is trying to copy the Ajax system with very few success es.If treated right Perez looks promising and it is interesting that he became successful in Spain when he was played as a central striker.

  66. Seven Kings Gooner

    Jan 12, 2017, 8:39 #96864

    Agree Perez has something, his volley the other week was almost "Van Bastenesque". However Simon, I think before we discuss Perez and Giroud playing within a "strong defensive shape" (LOL) how about just doing one simple thing - get the back four to move up in a straight line. We have dozens on our coaching staff surely we can tick that box before moving on.

  67. Joe S.

    Jan 12, 2017, 8:33 #96863

    Good to see that tactical genious Smell the Roses give us his formula for world domination or is that a desperate lunge for a top four finish? Early days yet but at best the two above mentioned super heroes are still to play in the big games and are only a stop gap for the crises to come should Sanchez and Ozil decide to move on. wouldn't the best solution be to bear the pain for a few years while the next manager builds the team he needs to move Arsenal as far away from the Wegner years as possible. Wegner - Giroud, Ramsey out. Ozil too, if he thinks that he can't remain at Arsenal FC under any other manager, besides Wegner.

  68. smithy

    Jan 12, 2017, 7:54 #96861

    Have to agree perez is playing well- unfortunately history tells us the wengeritus affects some new signings and they regress- lets hope its not the case with this chap!

  69. Rocky RIP

    Jan 29, 2013, 21:39 #31327

    @LJB - 'The mark of a good striker is being able to score against the best,like RVP has done for United this season' -Jesus wept. Give him a chance! Remind me of those goals against all the 'top sides' RVP scored in his first season at Arsenal. I await your answer. Who developed RVP into the world class player Man U were given in his prime on a plate? And no, I'm not saying Giroud is on a par with RVP or that we've got the next Maradona. I'm just saying be patient with OG12. He's improving and there's more to come.

  70. Theo Jensen

    Jan 29, 2013, 15:17 #31321

    I personally think Chamakh showed more potential for the reasons I outlined. It can't be proven wrong because all I cited was that he had great potential.

  71. Chris

    Jan 29, 2013, 12:53 #31315

    Theo - what you said was that Chamakh would genuinely have been a better bet than Giroud, partly because we then wouldn't have had to pay for Giroud. I think we are increasingly seeing that you were wrong, but there's no shame in that. I remember Kevin in a podcast at the beginningof last season being outraged that Gibbs was being played ahead of Santos, stating that the Brazilian international would obviously be a better player - "trust me" he said. That's not to smite Kevin - it's just that we all have so many opinions some are bound to be wrong.

  72. Mark from Aylesbury

    Jan 29, 2013, 12:26 #31313

    Anyone advocating violence against differing opinion really Has to look at themselves. I note one individual has been banding around terms like fairies and seemed to enjoy individuals being clobbered. Once many years ago I got caught up in some violence against West Ham. As well being punched by a member of the SPG. I also saw some so called tough guys pushing others into the mellee. It was an interesting lesson in seeing how some big noise advocates of violence are happy to stay in the safety of the background whilst others take a clump on their behalf. I believe in the states they use the term chicken hawk seems quite fitting

  73. The Noise

    Jan 29, 2013, 8:23 #31306

    PPP... So, you enjoy hearing early 20 year olds being attacked by 15 stone 40 years olds, yeah? That shows what kinda person you truely are then...

  74. LJB

    Jan 28, 2013, 23:10 #31302

    How many goals has Giroud scored against Top sides this season? Not Reading,Brighton,Newcastle or West Ham but ManU,Liverpool,Chelsea City or even Everton? The mark of a good striker is being able to score against the best,like RVP has done for United this season.Giroud is just a midtable level striker,a back up at best.Still,as Arsenal are doing their best to transform themselves into a midtable team i suppose he suits us just fine.On another note,well done banner boys,don't let the bullies stop your right to freedom of speech.Funny thing is all those singing One Arsene Wenger in support of the manager would have been singing "Spend some F***** money or "u don't know what ur doing" had we lost to Brighton on Saturday.Coz i must have imagined them all singing it at Villa and Bradford!!!

  75. Theo Jensen

    Jan 28, 2013, 19:55 #31299

    @Guy in Jersey- sorry dude but I don't think you understood what I was saying. I didn't compare them "unfavourably", I said Chamakh could have been a great player. He showed a lot of potential early on when the gap between the French Ligue 1 and the EPL was much larger and the Champions League record I mentioned too (that has seen players such as Messi, Ronaldo, Zidane, Henry...) not that he's on par but hopefully you get what I'm saying there. The only thing possibly "deluded" is that you didn't get my argument- I never said he would be massively prolific. His pace and ability as a teammate early on was a big asset. Dzeko plays in a 442 system, he isn't a lone striker- which is a much more attacking formation by the way. He doesn't need pace they use Tevez/Aguero for that. The issue was simply potential, and I don't see that Giroud, although, as I HAVE said, could be a great player, had demonstrated before his transfer or so far (for what I mention it's worth) perhaps as much ability or effectiveness as Chamakh.

  76. Guy in Jersey

    Jan 28, 2013, 19:35 #31297

    In respons to Peter Wain and Theo Jensen, what is it with you guys? Giroud scores gaols. FACT. Always has. FACT. Yet Theo compares him unfavourably to Chamakh!!! As I has stated before on this site, Chamakh and Gervinho have NEVER been great goalscorers. Each had one good season when their clubs won the French League, and even then they weren't their club's top goalscorer. So, you're deluded if you think Chamakh was ever going to be the answer to our goalscoring problem. Also, it's not a question of pace, ability, etc. it's also about effectiveness. Giroud reminds me of Edin Dzeko. Both have won championships elsewhere, both lack blinding pace and both compare unfavourably with more talented footballers. Yet, the last time I looked, the unheralded Dzeko was City's leading scorer. Is he as talented as Balotelli or Tevez? No, but he's bloody effective. So is Giroud.

  77. GoonerRon

    Jan 28, 2013, 17:31 #31294

    @ Red Member - I hate to be pedantic but surely by winning a 4th round cup match and thereby progressing the 5th round, we are closer to winning a trophy aren't we?

  78. Red Member

    Jan 28, 2013, 14:26 #31287

    so Arsenal have beaten a championship side and a team recently promoted from the championship in the past week. well done. no closer to winning a trophy though.

  79. Rocky RIP (4 on the scale)

    Jan 28, 2013, 12:54 #31282

    @BW - agreed. It had banana skin all over it, but we are through. As I discussed with Canada Gooner who eliminated us from the FA Cup in December, strange things happen in this fantastic competition. If we can see off Blackburn, then Man Utd, Man City and (almost definitely)Chelsea lie in waiting in the quarter-finals... What I'd give for a Wembley victory in May.

  80. Gare Kekeke

    Jan 28, 2013, 12:53 #31281

    @ Maguiresbridge Gooner; if I hear anything then yes, I’ll let people know on this site. Mark got it spot on when he said we shouldn’t be fighting each other so I find it very sad that some think it was good that some fans got beaten up because of their views. These so called hard men are the real losers and those that support them need to have a real good look at themselves that they are advocating any sort of violence. And they should also hope that they are not caught up in the violence because if they are, and are on the receiving end, then I will have no sympathy for them.

  81. BW

    Jan 28, 2013, 12:27 #31277

    I think given results elsewhere in the fourth round, particularly from other Premier Leagues sides on the road, we did well to come away with the victory and no danger of a replay. This fixture had banana skin written all over it.

  82. ppp

    Jan 28, 2013, 11:51 #31275

    @PeterWain - there are many great Arsenal players who may not have got into richer teams squads throughout the years but we still love them. Ray Parlour springs to mind. I'd have him in my all time Arsenal XI but you probably wouldn't. In fact, had you been supporting Arsenal in the 90's I'm sure you'd have been complaining about him every week and telling us all he wasn't good enough. Delighted to see the anti-Wenger eggs poleaxed as they tried a pathetic "protest" on Saturday - that's more like it.

  83. Miranda isn't funny

    Jan 28, 2013, 10:36 #31272

    @Peter Wain - the reason Arsenal are so far behind Man U and so on isn't down to one man. Study every goal we've conceded this season. There's a common thread running through each one. If our strikeforce had more strength in depth, players like OG12 would flourish and wouldn't cop the flak. When Podolski and Theo are on form, OG12 comes into his own with his link up play.

  84. Rocky RIP

    Jan 28, 2013, 10:13 #31270

    @Peter Wain - I'm not in any way deluded. Fast forward to Summer 2013, if OG12 stays fit and keeps improving the way he is, those 3 clubs you mention would have him should they require that kind of player to strengthen their squads.

  85. chris dee

    Jan 28, 2013, 10:06 #31269

    Our sh***y defensive D N A continues to florish. Nuff said about our Sunday League version of Roberto Carlos. Arsene should be charged with dereliction of duty regarding Santos,firstly for buying him and then for playing him. Sirchesney is a fantastic young goalkeeper with great potential,but he needs resting from time to time while he learns all the ins and outs of goalkeeping,but thanks to Arsene we have no back up keeper of any worth. And this might be a revelation to Arsene,if not to Arsenal fans, full back must not,repeat after me, Arsene,must not, allow crosses into our penalty area. I disagree with Ed Kev about Carl Jenkinson,I would rather have him at right back that Sagna.He gives 100%,is as good going forward ,has improved defensively and has a bit more 'attitude' and commitment that Sagna. Meanwhile let's not go overboard about Olivier 'Smudger' Giroud,as Arsene has in the Arsenal website.Good solid start to his Arsenal career,and he's a 'tryer',something that is lacking in a few of the other players.

  86. lee afc

    Jan 28, 2013, 10:02 #31268

    Peter Wain...Honestly, given the choice, who would you rather have in your team...Dzeko, Torres, Carroll or Giroud?? Think carefully now!!

  87. SteveArsenal

    Jan 28, 2013, 9:54 #31267

    And time now to give some praise to Theo, Kevin-albeit measured.

  88. Peter Wain

    Jan 28, 2013, 9:30 #31265

    Rocky if you think Giroud would get into the squads of Man U Man City or even Chelski you are deluded. He is not a good enough player for the tops teams. If he were that good we would not be so many points behind them.

  89. Mike

    Jan 28, 2013, 8:31 #31264

    Don't know why people are now putting conditions on Giroud (he only scores against lower teams and his goals don't count for much etc) - I watched Dzeko and Tevez miss a hatfull of chances on Saturday - Giroud makes these near post runs and puts the ball in the back of the net from tight angles -that is something I haven't seen for a while - he targeted himself with 12 premier goals for the season and it seems he will make it easily - considering he took a while to hit the back of the net, he could quite easily be the clubs top scorer this year

  90. billthered

    Jan 28, 2013, 7:01 #31263

    Anyone that goes to games would not have a pop at Giroud cause he has a go and ends matches with sweat on his shirt.Every supporter of every club never has a go at a trier Perry Groves anyone,a little Russian anyone.

  91. DW Thomas

    Jan 28, 2013, 3:07 #31262

    Good win despite the need for Theo an Jack. Someone needs to coach this team on how to mark and backtrack, you know, defend. Diaby looks lie he is at a jog most of the time and the corner for their first goal is evidence that no one at the club can coach this team properly. Sczezny looked poor coming to the ball and the whole defense was fairly bad all game. Now on to Giroud. I like him and give him a break! He hustles, has skill and a touch, but yes is a little slow. Yet, he makes up for it with smart runs. We just don't have the right service for him enough of the time. With confidence as he is showing now, he can score and be a good hold up striker. I agree with another poster about Chamakh that he was ruined by Wengerband our over reliance on RVP. He was solid his first half season, then thrown out lie an old toy only give scraps here and there. Same with Arshavin. And don't tell me ey were lazy. A good manager on $7 million a year has a job and a huge part of that is to motivate. It is obvious he cannot or will not. His tactics are stale and his ideas outdated. The simple facts he won't change and never looks inwards to explain his failure is ridiculous and damaging the core of the club. Arsenal became a great club having never won a CL. So, why is it such a big success jut making it in the competition each year with no rel chance of winning? We should be pushing to win the PL and then 2nd, 3rd, and 4th take care of themselves. Seeing the anti Wenger banner is sad, but we are all tired of losing when he could and should do so much more. If no one of good quality is signed by Thursday, he has clearly lost all sense of reality and what is needed in this club.

  92. Alsace Lorraine de Totteridge

    Jan 27, 2013, 23:02 #31261

    The AMG's don't criticise Wenger because they want to be proved right. They criticise Wenger because he is proving them right. Wanting the team to lose so that we can be free of him quickly rather than gut wrenchingly slowly is also entirely logical. We will get there, because for all the genuine efforts of Jack and Giroud and others, he does something crazy like continuing to play Santos. An example of which there are many. We lose our good players because they come to the realisation that he torpedoes any genuine effort which they put in. The question is, can we get rid of the manager before we lose Wilshire?

  93. Miranda isn't funny

    Jan 27, 2013, 22:48 #31260

    @Peter Wain - 'The truth is Wenger lost his bottle in the transfer market which is why we do not compete for top players' - when did Wenger have bottle before if he's now lost it? Examples of signings before he lost his bottle please? All his best and most successful signings were fairly low key, (often unheard of to most fans) and relatively cheap players he developed into world class talents. His more well known ones were often struggling elsewhere and he took a gamble. They have never been marquee signings. Forking out 35 million on proven talent isn't really showing bottle in my opinion. Polishing relatively **** gems and taking flak for them at first shows far more bottle. Who had honestly heard of Anelka, Vieira, Petit or Llungberg when he signed them? RVP and Cesc were probably the last examples. (All under £5 million.)I'm no AKB (or AMG for that matter), I'm just pointing out that he's always done it on the relative cheap. His magic eye for a bargain just isn't as keen.

  94. Rocky RIP

    Jan 27, 2013, 22:12 #31259

    @Peter Wain - You asked - 'Be honest would Giroud get into the top sides squads no or course he would not'. I can only assume you are a poor judge of a player. He wouldn't be automatic first choice at most clubs, but he'd be welcome in most/all top squads.

  95. Kensall Green

    Jan 27, 2013, 21:45 #31258

    Everyone's entitled to an opinion but the facts of life are that the majority are lemmings, who need to be directed, prompted and lead in a given direction. Another is that many are jealous and envious and wish for the downfall/failure of others so they can point and so I told you so. So you will get people on the back of Giroud in his first season (after what a dozen starts?) in a new league-which is admittedly a jump from his previous league- because he doesnt come out immediately scoring 50 goals in his first 2 games. Despite the fact we've seen time and again that many players take time to come good in a new team, system, country, and league. So what he was in french 3rd division team a few years ago? 26 years ago he wasnt even on this planet. Crap player! We all have to start somewhere. Exactly how many goals has Eden Hazard, who cost Chelsea 35Million pounds and likely obscene wages, scored against the "big teams"? What is goal tally exactly? Isnt he exactly the type of signing someone like Peter Wain would have paid for?

  96. Jude Jolicoeur

    Jan 27, 2013, 21:04 #31257

    Good result considering the Bradford debacle and other results this weekend. Have to fancy our draw in the next round. As for Brighton, I'm not sure I'd categorize Ramsey's performance as "holding the midfield together until Jack came on," unless you're factoring his immense backwards and sideways pass completion percentage. But for Arteta's injury and Diaby and Rosicky's inability to stay fit, the boy would not (and should not) be anywhere near the first team. We'll undoubtedly see him flounder on the wings when all the midfielders are fit. We've sent out Frimpong. Perhaps the Wales manager is right. There's still time to send him out for a spell and bring in some midfield quality.

  97. Theo Jensen

    Jan 27, 2013, 19:48 #31256

    Lee afc and Rocky RIP- sorry but you guys have misrepresented my comments so I need to clear that up. I say with all foreign league players, Giroud included, that they need a year to adapt. However, my point was that Chamakh, when he first joined, showed great ability immediately in what was then a far stronger league. He only lost form because RvP returned from injury and it shattered his confidence not getting picked. He also shares the record for most goals scored in consecutive games in the Champions League (5). So, who's to say that with a run of games he wouldn't have produced the goods? I compare them because Chamakh on that evidence arguably has more potential. They have very similar styles except Chamakh is fast. If the lone striker is very slow, as the focal point of the attack, counter attacking is difficult and momentum in attacks is more easily lost. The point is if Wenger wanted this type of player (apart from buying Ba...) he could have played Chamakh regularly and used that £13m to remedy a more serious area of deficiency like left back where Santos is in reserve or defensive midfield where Arteta is overplayed and out of position too.

  98. Wenger Must Go

    Jan 27, 2013, 19:42 #31255

    Vital win. The draw has been kind because if it was at home to Manchester United, Man City or Chelsea Arsenal wouldn't have a prayer the way it defended yesterday!!

  99. Potters Bar Geoff G

    Jan 27, 2013, 19:27 #31254

    Clive the Gooner you hit the nail on the head. We can all argue the toss about everything until the cows come home but until Wenger sends out a team that defends better than we do now both individually and collectively we have got no chance of winning anything. We are flat track bullies.

  100. Orangeburg Gooner

    Jan 27, 2013, 19:15 #31253

    Result doesn't look too shabby after Oldham, Leeds and Brentford

  101. In defence of Giroud

    Jan 27, 2013, 19:08 #31252

    @Peter Wain and others - can we ditch the 'it was only against' .. nonsense? Lazy sh*te. A sweet curler from outside the box is very good strike irrespective of the oppostion. A great first touch is a great first touch, the opposition is irrelevant. If Dennis controlled Frank de Boer's 70 yard pass (as he did v Argentina in the 98 World Cup) with one touch v San marino, would you say 'it was only San Marino'? A great first time flick on a plate for a striker is a great flick, etc. If a keeper makes a stunning reaction save from a shot driven at pace do you discount it because of the opposition? Ofcourse not.

  102. Peter Wain

    Jan 27, 2013, 18:32 #31250

    Yes Giroud had a good game but it was against a championship side It is not his fault he has a severe lack of pace or that he was a third division french striker. Against top quality opposition he looks limited ineffective and out of his depth. We need better quality players if we want to compete to win the league which we have not been doing for several years. Wenger talks about buying top top quality and then comes up with second and third rate players who are overpaid and we cannot sell when they perform to the limit of their ability. Be honest would Giroud get into the top sides squads no or course he would not. For a manager to say that it is impossible to improve this squad is laughable as is not buying in the tranfer window. The truth is Wenger lost his bottle in the transfer market which is why we do not compete for top players.

  103. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jan 27, 2013, 18:14 #31248

    Gare Kekeke, good point on the away fans i don't go to many away games myself as i can only afford home games, but the lads i know who do them all, would tell you the majority are there to support Arsenal FC and the players, not Arsene FC, even complete dross like santos and others, but as was witnessed yesterday with santos that support can only go so far.And as the same fans would tell you Arsene FC has his supporters there to, hence the skirmishes that has already been mentioned by Mark.And if you can please keep us informed of any developments regarding the so called hard man who punched the kid.

  104. CanadaGooner

    Jan 27, 2013, 17:37 #31246

    Kev You're on an absolute roll in 2013! Your post-match reports are simply excellent these days (SkySports needs ya!). You summed it all up nicely in your first few sentences. Not a great display but a very welcome result. Spurs will now concentrate on the league and arsenal needs to get serious on that front by turning Liverpool over on Wednesday

  105. Rocky RIP

    Jan 27, 2013, 17:20 #31244

    @leeafc - totally agree that some of our fans can't appreciate what Giroud offers. Add 'too slow' to the list of stupid complaints. He's not a bearing down on goal at searing pace, one on one with the keeper type of player. I've rated him all along too. Okay he isn't Dennis or RVP, but he has a very good first touch, brings other players in well, good movement, puts himself about, seems to have a good attitude/rapport with the fans, a genuine threat in the air, etc. His flicks for Podolski (v Montpellier) and Gibbs (v Swansea) were awesome. It's not his fault we could do with another quality striker to make the ideal set. When Podolski is on rampaging form and Theo is on form (which can vary 4 times a match) he links up superbly.

  106. lee afc

    Jan 27, 2013, 16:04 #31243

    Quite a few bad mouthed comments on Giroud over the last week or so by so called Arsenal fans...PETER WAIN 'inefective and out of his depth'..DON FROTH 'embarassment'..THEO JENSON 'Chamakh without pace'.. JJ 'no more than a useful sub'.. PAUL (who just for the record has posted nothing positive to say about the club ever)'useless lump and slow track bully'....Giroud has been at the club since the start of the season and while you can never compare him with RVP 2012, his goals to starts ratio is better than RVP's was in his first season, added to that, nearly double digit assists so far. Bring on the argument that he cant score against top opposition...I have always stated that I rate the guy and he can give as good as he gets, ask that question about theo and gervinho?... Giroud's ability to bring his team mates into the game should not be underestimated, unfortunately, some gooners only see as far as their noses and are quick to criticise.

  107. In defence of Giroud

    Jan 27, 2013, 14:54 #31241

    On Giroud - okay, he isn't RVP, get over it, but can we stop this 'he's a flat track bully' drivel please? Lazy comment probably heard on talksh*** or from Robbie Savage. He brings so much to the team. It's the quality of those around him that needs improving/back up. Back him and his game will keep improving and these 'goals against the big teams' that people seem to think are the only ones that count will come. Someone once said of Pires: 'until he does it against a top team in a big game, I don't rate him'. Utter pony. He scored a magnificent goal against Blackburn, displaying incredible technical ability, but it was 'only Blackburn'. There's enough about him to know that one day he will score one that matters against top opposition. And the entire stadium will resound to the sound of his name.

  108. Dan h

    Jan 27, 2013, 14:28 #31240

    Two well taken goals by Giroud but usual problems that are like a open wound that hasn't been treated.Their first goal was shockingly bad six red shirts around the ball & Szczesny should of done a lot better.Santos had already tried to bring Brighton back into the game when dispossed which resulted them scoring a marginal offside goal.No defensive ability no desire to close down & blatantly unfit awful buy don't blame the scouts he was a panic buy by OGL how he obtained 22 caps for Brazil god knows.Two good players for every position don't make me laugh.Still next round of the cup chances are there will be a lot of ties between some of the bigger clubs.Sad to hear of some unrest between the fans thought we were a classier support than that but shows how all areas of the club seem a bit divided in the direction we are going.

  109. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jan 27, 2013, 14:18 #31239

    A mixed performance alright Kev whats new ? it doesn't matter who we play and from what division their from we always make hard work of it,with the same old deficiencies surfacing and it doesn't help when players like santos are selected.It proved with the line up,if any was needed that the CL is his holy grail (or rather qualifying for it) or maybe he still had Bradford on his mind i very much doubt it.We're through to the next round after beating the mighty Hove Albion and that's all that matters, and another reason for ogl not to strengthen not even with a keeper.A great performance from Giroud and getting on the score sheet again and the celebrations with the fans shows a good relationship building there,hopefully he can keep this run going against the scousers on Wednesday night.This evenings draw will tell us if we get another low ranking club or a chance to show we can progress against one of the top teams.

  110. mike

    Jan 27, 2013, 13:42 #31238

    @Danny,sounds as if you were next to the three stooges - Giroud is silencing his critics one by one.

  111. Danny

    Jan 27, 2013, 12:00 #31236

    @mark.There was a little trouble where I was sitting but nothing to get excited about.One guy had been abusing Wenger calling him "A French Pollywog"Another guy took exception to this tapped him on the shoulder and twisted his nose causing a blood blister.The guys wife who had his nose twisted then hit the guy over the head with an Arsenal flag who in turn poked the oither guy in the eye with his finger.This soon abated and after Walcott scored everybody seemed to be friends again.

  112. SilverGooner

    Jan 27, 2013, 11:58 #31235

    Fair enough that some of the regular starters needed a rest, but playing Santos again at left back defied belief. One of the reasons that Wenger will never win a major trophy again is that he never learns from his mistakes. Earlier in the season, Santos had a nightmare in the home game against Shalke. It was proof that the guy is clueless when it comes to defending. End of! For Wenger to play him again in that position is total madness and shows just how clueless out manager has become, not to mention how thin our squad is in terms of quality players. So, what's the betting we won't be signing anyone anytime soon?!

  113. Gare Kekeke

    Jan 27, 2013, 11:47 #31234

    A mixture of good and bad but overall we deserved the win. Giroud’s positive influence is growing by the game, let alone the goal and the more good he contributes, hopefully the less we’ll see of Gervinho. Giroud is certainly my choice as the striker of the front three because of his all round game and he’s more suited to that role than Walcott who at times, still flatters to deceive. But I would still trust Walcott more than the hapless Gervinho. Even when we win, there is still an element of bad defending as proved with Brighton’s goals but where was the protection the defence was supposed to get from Diaby? Relying on his (poor) fitness has cost Wenger dear after not replacing Song with a more specialised defensive midfielder. But then Wenger doesn’t think we need one or whatever he said along that line earlier this season. As for Santos, I won’t go over old ground with him. By far the worst of the panic buys in the aftermath of 8-2. It is often said on this site that the true/real Arsenal fan goes to away games and support Wenger, all the players and the board (support the board.....bitch please!). Yet in recent away games that I have either worked on in my job or have attended I have noticed banners that are critical of Wenger (I have reported that Wigan incident to the club so that punching fool will get his just desserts), the team booed after poor performances, the ‘spend some f*cking money’ chants being sung, overhearing conservations of Arsenal fans that are critical of Wenger & the club and now Andre Santos being sarcastically cheered off the pitch. Just goes to show that not everyone is taken in by the spin that comes out of the club especially from Wenger & Gazidis. Great travelling support as usual though. It’s nice to see that despite the split amongst fans (with fans on both sides of the fence too abusive in my view. What’s wrong with a rational debate?), those who are at games still support the team. But issues both on and off the pitch cannot be swept aside just because we’ll claim a few wins here and there against inferior opposition. Here’s hoping for a decent fifth round draw. Millwall away please. I live near the Den and we’ve got scores to settle with that lot from 1995. Up The Arsenal!

  114. Stevesam

    Jan 27, 2013, 11:30 #31233

    Our negligent manager has still not addressed the main priority, a top keeper. There are only 4 days to go and soon we shall be stuck with Chesney and 'new signing' Flappy. Good to see Rambo holding the midfield together until Jack came on. What has happened to 'The Ox' has he been struck by the 'comfort zone virus'. Great performance by Giroud, how about a free role for Wally playing off Giroud. Perhaps not, I doubt he has the football brain. Looking forward to todays draw, hope we are drawn away, great support again.

  115. Clive the Gooner

    Jan 27, 2013, 11:21 #31232

    For eight years now Wenger has failed to sort out the defence. Until he does no matter who we do or don't buy we will win nothing.

  116. Mark

    Jan 27, 2013, 11:19 #31231

    I agree entirely with the analysis and only have a couple of additional points to make. The first relates to Santos. Everyone (presumably the manager too) knew that Santos can't play at left back. this being the case, why was he given the opportunity to almost single handedly wreck our chance to go through to the next round? it is also clear that Podolski, while being a good signing of genuine quality, can't defend in his own half for toffee. So, creating a left-sided double act of Santos and Podolski is criminally insane. Dumb and Dumber comes to mind. My final point is what was going on (or off) amongst our supporters. Just in the small area around me, there were constant niggles between fans, some of which were long-standing, and there were sveral situations where there was direct confrontation and even punches thrown. I don't want to be an Arsenal fan and to see us fighting with our own. It's just not on. I don't care whether you're 'Wenger is God' or 'Wenger is the Devil', we stick together and support each other and the team. We are Arsenal, not Spurs.

  117. GoonerRon

    Jan 27, 2013, 11:15 #31229

    A semi-risky team selection vindicated with Cazorla, Theo, Wilshere and Gibbs getting a much needed breather whilst we are in the hat for the next round. Defensive performances continue to be a concern but our offensive game is really encouraging. Huge game on Wednesday in which we need a strong 90+ minutes.

  118. Paul

    Jan 27, 2013, 11:08 #31228

    Kev Giroud is a good back up striker.But you judge good strikers on what thay do in the big games like Chelsea last week.One minute he misses a glorious chance the next Chelsea score.At the moment he is a slow track bully.Sadly our clueless manager believes we have two players for each position so no new signings so no 4th place

  119. Guildford Gooner

    Jan 27, 2013, 11:04 #31227

    As you say typical Arsenal nowadays,good going forward when the first choice players are on but woefull at the back.I really can't see us winning anything until somebody sorts out our defensive issues but Wenger seems to have a blind spot about this.