The Emirates Cup returns…

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The Emirates Cup returns…

Drogba – Oh what a circus?


I have never attended an Emirates Cup game in the tournament’s history, normally watching Arsenal’s games in a pub in the vicinity of the stadium. I will be honest and admit that this year I could not even rouse the interest to do that. I half watched about 45 minutes of one of the Asian Tour games, but frankly, the pre-season matches so far this season have not interested me because there is nothing new to be seen, except the odd youngster flattering to deceive. These are warm up exercises, and I am never concerned about the results.

However, I got enough text messages after the Sunday game from Sami Steinbock to relay something of the afternoon inside the stadium. He wrote -

“Glad we lost. Time to wake up those players that were being silly complacent following the Asia tour. Once we get to the box we can’t do anything and we hardly ever apply pressure. Essentially we are not very good but we knew that didn’t we? Sum up for me was the final whistle. Wenger just going straight down the tunnel smiling. I personally will only smile when he f**** off. People can make all the ems cup excuses they want but as @DarrenArsenal1 summed up: I’d rather focus on the fact that THIS squad was deficient last season, and without decent arrivals will be deficient this season. Ridiculous how people are yet to turn on Wenger. How people seem content on the current situation and can be so stupid as to try to blame ANYONE else. Emirates Cup is as bad as everyone says. At least everyone seemed happy, as long as they got to partake in the Mexican wave!!! Hahaha”

So the conclusion from within was that Arsenal have returned to their shot shy ways. Outside it was interesting to see the crowd on both days. I was at the stadium organizing sales of the new issue of The Gooner .

It was a real family crowd. A lot of people who were probably going to see an Arsenal game for the first time. The advertising campaign to sell the tickets, and the relatively cheap ticket prices (in comparison with standard matches) meant that the club stated that both games were sold out. I have no idea of whether there were gaps in the stadium or not in reality. It was interesting to listen to Talksport after the Sunday game had been completed, with the ads offering tickets for the tournament now completed still being featured on heavy rotation.

It is certainly a viable financial exercise for Arsenal. People coming for the first (and sometimes only) time are more likely to buy in the club store, and purchase food and drink inside the stadium. They are certainly there for a much longer period, and many spend good portions of the first (non-Arsenal) game on the concourses. It’s Arsenal as a tourist attraction, which is how the stadium tours are marketed now. There was a certain irony in the weekend being advertised in the style of a circus, with ‘Drogba the strongman’ as one of the start draws (apparently not strong enough to stay on his feet, thus securing a penalty yesterday). It’s a far cry from what football used to be, but with outgoings as they are, chasing every pound going is understandable.

The frustration is that the club do not seem to be doing much with the money. The perception now is that the board want Wenger to buy star players to appease the fan discontent, but that the manager will not pay more than he believes a player is worth. And the market value of targets is more than Wenger’s perceived worth of his transfer targets. Someone told me Wenger put a bid of £13 million in for Wayne Rooney, although I can’t actually believe that. I have been told that that if more desirable targets cannot be acquired, Gareth Barry will come to the club for £4 million. And Wenger believes he can get Swansea’s Ashley Williams for £8.5 million. Whether German under-21 international Matthias Ginter, a midfielder from Freiburg is the more desirable option that discounts the signing of both Barry and Williams, I am uncertain. Given that the youngster can play in central defence as well, there is an element of Alex Song about him.

I am sure Arsenal have been actively trying to sign players, the sticking point is that they are not prepared to pay the asking price. It’s like a customer in Tesco hanging around the discounted shelves waiting for some prime cut of beef to be put on there before it will go past its sell-by date.

What is certain is that there is a hell of a lot of money to be played with. Pre-season friendlies have to be taken with a pinch of salt, but the fact that the players themselves have been expressing the need for new arrivals to strengthen the squad is telling. Arsenal were in a good position to do their business well in time for the start of the campaign, to integrate new arrivals and work out their best starting eleven. Granted, the early signing of Luis Suarez would have made little difference to the start of the Premier League, but there is the small matter of two qualifying matches to make the Champions League proper and if achieved, a couple of group matches before he is eligible for Premier League action. Liverpool are in no rush to sell Suarez and could certainly rebuff any unrealistic offer, especially if they consider they do not have time to secure a replacement. So if that deal is to be done, Wenger needs to cough up and conclude it soon.

Even though next weekend’s friendly against Manchester City in Helsinki is a final warm-up game, it will be a far more realistic workout ahead of the real thing, with, one assumes, the line-up likely to begin the Villa match seven days later. Arsenal have left their transfers late, but I have no doubt new arrivals will be announced. The real issue is whether, by over-haggling, the club end up with lesser quality than they should. As usual, we simply watch and wait.

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  1. Jason B

    Aug 08, 2013, 23:12 #37218

    @Dave the gooner,hope your son enjoyed his first game and goes for many years to come.

  2. maguiresbridge gooner

    Aug 06, 2013, 22:01 #37077

    Davethegooner i certainly don't perceive you as a plastic fan just because you don't attend on a regular basis, having been attending since 83 your far from that, i think the term plastic fan is aimed at those who jumped on the band wagon when we moved to a new stadium, and even more recently, and think it's cool just to be there and have their photo taken and don't care about the result,and care less if we win something,and have no idea of the history of our club and don't want to know, and in a lot of cases think Arsene Wenger formed it, they also think Arsene wenger can do no wrong and is doing a great job, and will not be told any different, so you definitely cant be perceived as a plastic. Yes we'll always be Arsenal supporters no matter where we finish even mid table or lower but if that were to happen i bet there wouldn't be as many plastics.

  3. Davethegooner

    Aug 06, 2013, 19:19 #37072

    @tpm and maguiresbridge gooner My gripe was with the perceived plastic fan attending the Emirates cup because I'm not able to make X amounts of games per season, that's what compelled me to comment on here for the first time. Far from being happy to settle for mediocrity I accept the board and Managers obvious faults and wish that positive steps were taken to remedy them! My point being that Arsenal football club will always be my team no matter where there league position lie and will always be that way! Do I agree with the way things have been run...Certainly not! Should the club spend big and buy the quality we are so obviously missing ..... undoubtedly! Will I still be a gooner even if we were to finish mid table or were lower league? Absolutely! I don't consider that a lack of sense just a man who loves his club unconditionally If not the board and manager! Hope I've managed to come across clearer, not questioning anyone's thoughts or frustrations as I share them all, just giving my two pence worth as are the role of these forums!

  4. maguiresbridge gooner

    Aug 06, 2013, 14:48 #37061

    Davethegooner, We've been spoilt over the years alright but it's so long ago it's hard to remember, but when have any of us thought it's our god given right to be successful ? i don't know anyone who thinks that, and I've never heard it said on here, because no team has. We've all been priced out in some way either giving up tickets, attending less, or when we do, spend less or nothing, and who's responsible for that ? so we should sit back and stop bitching and let it continue and let them take us for a ride even further with their false promises and crap displays on the pitch. I'm glad your son enjoyed himself and you and him have happy memories of his first game, but when his mates start celebrating their teams being successful,wearing their replica shirts after winning trophies, with open bus parades, and arsenal keep winning the imaginary trophy maybe his memories of the Emirates cup won't stick with him for all that long.

  5. tpm

    Aug 06, 2013, 9:55 #37050

    @davethegooner: "we all became spoilt and thinking its our god given right to be successful...Yes I know the team / manager isn't perfect and the lack of transfer activity is frustrating but win or lose we all love the club so lets get on with backing instead of bitching!" as ever to of the most common, oft qwuoted and popular known and indeed deliberate misconceptions of a akb. you know we dont think we have a right to be successful, what we have is a right for the club we support, to make every effort to be the best they can be, using the resources that they do have available, and make the most of what we do have. clearly that is not happening, no spending, rewarding of dross with bumper deals, crap signings when they are made, rigid unchanging tactics, BS quotes form those in charge about this being the best squad etc. backing instead of bitching??? well an internet blog by its nature is to generate debate and vent spleens. if everything was rosy, few would be here commenting or moaning, as everyone would be happy and have no need to let there frustrations out here. and this backing you say, are the fans supposed to back the club come what may?? thats what you seem to be advocating. when is enough enough? when we scrabbling around in mid table? why have you no ambition. you and your ilk, are what hinders positive change at this and the type of fan keeping the manager in his job as you are happy with our decline and accepting second best. hopefully your kid shows more sense than you.

  6. Ken

    Aug 06, 2013, 1:35 #37042

    IT'S HARD TO BACK A SIDE WHEN YOU SEE WHATS HAPPENING. A MANAGER THAT ONLY THINKS ABOUT HIMSELF, PLAYERS THAT DON'T CARE AS LONG AS THEY GET PAID. AND THE BOARD THAT THINKS ABOUT MAKING MONEY FOR THEMSELFS. F**K THE FANS AS LONG AS WE TURN UP THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS.

  7. Davethegooner

    Aug 05, 2013, 23:00 #37040

    I attended on the Sat with my son for his first game, Yes I guess that makes me a tourist as its so snootily derived. Ok yes he wanted to visit the shop and spend his birthday money after the match! Watching his reaction was fantastic during the game, it was pure joy and excitement as we have all experienced watching Arsenal over the years at some point before we all became spoilt and thinking its our god given right to be successful. I would love nothing more than to attend lots of matches but like many others have been priced out of doing so! Have been a Arsenal fan for over 30 years now and have been attending games when the opportunity comes up since 1983! Just because Im not able to attend week in week out does not make me any less of a fan. The Emirates cup provided me with an chance for myself and my son to attend and as such gave me fantastic memories of his first game and hopefully one that will stick with him all his life! Yes I know the team / manager isn't perfect and the lack of transfer activity is frustrating but win or lose we all love the club so lets get on with backing instead of bitching!

  8. Where's Wally is a Gooner

    Aug 05, 2013, 21:13 #37039

    Like many others it is a sad state of affairs when as someone who attended over 40 games a season home and away for 25 years or so, I couldn't be motivated to watch it on tv. What the F*** is going on at our club.

  9. Ted

    Aug 05, 2013, 20:56 #37038

    If you people are so bored and can't be bothered to watch Arsenal. Why spend hours talking about them. If you lot represented all Arsenal fans the club would have gone into liquidation years ago.

  10. HowardL

    Aug 05, 2013, 20:01 #37037

    I fell asleep yesterday during the first half after Theo had missed an open goal and when I woke up he had 'scored'!

  11. DW Thomas

    Aug 05, 2013, 19:41 #37036

    Hopefully with his recent comical comments on signings and the fan unease spreading, Wenger will wake up from his ego driven reign and change buying some real quality. YEAH, RIGHT! He is already comparing Sanogo to a top signing. What's next? Fabianski is the league's best keeper? This squad compared to Cesc's last season with us is disgracefully thin and poor. Had we signed Hazard and Mata or some other real quality besides Cazorla over the last few seasons, maybe we could be patient. As it is, to make comments about spending power and then spend basically nothing is a complete dereliction of duty. We all see the potential this club could now be. We have some outstanding players that just need a few additions to push on to the next level. They know it, we know it. And we all know what or who has been holding us back. What is the real "deadwood" at the club? I'll let you all answer that for yourselves.

  12. Ramgun

    Aug 05, 2013, 19:15 #37035

    I hope that we get off to a good start. The 8-2 happened too early. It would be much better if the wheels came off after the transfer window closes.

  13. The Happening

    Aug 05, 2013, 18:11 #37034

    I watched only wth the hope that i'd see a glimmer of an improvement in our players; Ramsey, boundless energy, looks like he genuinely makes an effort!! Sagna, needs to leave, sooon! Gibbs, looked more solid, Jenkinson, another who appears to be genuinely interested in improving his game and the lot of our team!! Walcott?? A skivvied cross, missed by both sets of players arcs it way past a daydreaming 'keeper?? Then, hands outstretched, arrogance personified 'told you so' stance, a celebration that sums up our players and their attitude, instilled by the manager!! Groundhog season awaits...still I will follow!!

  14. Aug 05, 2013, 17:50 #37033

    Why did Higuain get jeered? He wanted to come to Arsenal, it was Wenger that dithered and wouldn't pay the transfer fee so he went to a club that would. He must be glad he never signed now.

  15. Paul Adams

    Aug 05, 2013, 17:39 #37032

    Played golf over the weekend,fantastic! The Emirates Cup same old, same old.ZZZzzzzzz----- Hating AFC just now after 40 years support.

  16. Green Hut

    Aug 05, 2013, 17:36 #37031

    We desperately need to get knocked out of the Champions League at the qualifying round stage. Thursday/Sunday football would be a small price to pay to stop Wenger insulting our intelligence and embarrassing us at every opportunity.

  17. Alsace Lorraine de Totteridge

    Aug 05, 2013, 17:31 #37030

    Do you think that it might be possible for Arsenal to organise a pre-season tournament which they might actually win more than 50% of the time ? Perhaps if they set up next year's competition against Athletico Dollis Hill, F.C. Neasden and Dynamo Crouch End, then we would "triumph". This should be the season when the knives start going in and making his position untenable, but you never know. The opposition just seems to be getting worse. Roy Kinnear was explaining the extreme difficulties of buying anyone so great is the dearth of talent and the Agents greed.

  18. Beam me up scotty

    Aug 05, 2013, 17:23 #37029

    **** its boring supporting arsenal these days

  19. goonergocarpfishing

    Aug 05, 2013, 17:22 #37028

    watched around 30 mins of each game and just decided to carry on sorting my fishing gear out and doing the garden which I hate !!!!! dull,boring, predictable and weak (which the same can be said of the nutty professor)the moose on talk sport said "its like an F1 team trying to win the title with a 2 year old car" couldn't think of a better way to describe our sorry club.cant believe wenger would consider either barry or Williams.i also love how he says that because our latest French freebie didn't cost £100m it doesn't mean he is not a top player ,yeah sure !!!!!! you have bought crap santos,gerv,squillaci and park,and destroyed good players chamahk and arsharvin,stood by players who are not good enough denilson,diaby,st nick,and flapihandski.the only reason that he received little stick is because the place was full of first and probably last timers,the real abuse shall start against villa so I cant wait,we are all fed up as fans and are all aware as fans we need a new gk,cb,defmid,wideleft and cf that are all top players as do the players,you can see it in wilshires interviews that he and others arteta,theo and ramsey that they are saying the same and look as unhappy as us, most worrying for us was jack.i would not blame him if he too will like rvp who just wanted to see progress, leaves.please again mr wenger go and do the right thing which is go and sort our team out or just go.at least my fishing gear is ready for me going to france in a couple of weeks and her indoors is happy with the garden !!

  20. CanadaGooner

    Aug 05, 2013, 16:30 #37026

    Kroenke, Gazidis, the rest of the Arsenal Board and Wenger are all a DISGRACE and an insult to everything Arsenal stands for! We have now gone from; "phew! what a last ditch escape to finish 4th in 2012/13" to the old "we don't need established players to succeed". Once the pressure's off, and the fans mellow down again, we're back to the same old stories: no useful player brought in over summer! what a debacle!!!

  21. Jamie M

    Aug 05, 2013, 16:26 #37025

    Said what we need a million and one times but we have a manager who constantly puts his own stupid ego ahead of the club he manages' success. Doesn't like to be told to spend money, fine then Arsene, if that's how you feel walk away! It's got to a stage where so many of us would be glad to see the back of you!

  22. Ron

    Aug 05, 2013, 16:03 #37024

    Emirates Cup - 'The matchday experience'. Good grief! I wouldnt watch it if it was the last football game ever played.

  23. billthered

    Aug 05, 2013, 15:55 #37023

    Gooner,the financial restraints you state were not mentioned when we moved into the grove only that we needed extra revenue to compete with the top clubs around Europe.I have given up my season ticket now If I'm not careful I will lose interest altogether.I will have to buy my gooner now online I gave up purchasing the matchday programme ages ago all spin telling us what great youngsters we have etc,well them youngsters got caned 7-0 not by Real Madrid or Barca no the mighty Orient.Nuff said.

  24. 4 players out and 1 in -a busy busy close seaon as promised

    Aug 05, 2013, 15:45 #37022

    financially the emirates cup was extremely succesful

  25. jjetplane

    Aug 05, 2013, 15:24 #37021

    Ha ha - totally forgot that Drogba was playing at the weekend against some promising group of youngsters put together by a hedge fund manager though still managed to swear my head off about said le boss when someone foolishly mentioned him. I am presently more interested in the rise of Bournemouth than Arsenal though it's too far to travel to on a regular basis. I mean we are talking football? Remember that? lordeeee. Be interesting to see how Brighton get on though heres hoping Crawley come unstuck. Where were we? Oh yeah - Arsenal ..... draw nil nil with Villa. It's a point aint it! ha ha.

  26. maguiresbridge gooner

    Aug 05, 2013, 15:03 #37020

    Gooner 39762, you don't have to be at an Arsenal game or watch it these days, to write a piece on it, or give analysis, we've been so predictable for the last five or six years that Kev could have written this without any bodys opinion.

  27. Stroud Green Road Boy

    Aug 05, 2013, 14:42 #37019

    Like maguiresbridge goner says, it's interesting to note the friendlies were seen as strong indicators of the season ahead when games were being won in Asia - a fail in the Emirates Cup and suddenly friendlies don't mean anything. So which is it, Wenger fans? Also, from his comments on owners, salaries and transfers it's evident Wenger doesn't like the way football has gone. Which is understandable and there is a simple solution - don't work in it. But there I'm forgetting the bit of the modern game Wenger does like - his salary.

  28. Ivan, via untraceable mobile device

    Aug 05, 2013, 14:37 #37018

    Dear Arsene: Thanks for the message. Unfortunately I am unable to complete your request vis a vis deflecting questions on soccer matters, as soccer is not my area of knowledge or responsibility. What I can tell you is that the weekend's customer sporting event at the venue proved to be very self - sustainable. Early revenue projections indicate that we should do away with the league season altogether, as we could make an absolute killing from tourists if we were to hold an invitational round - robin every other weekend at our multi - purpose entertainment venue instead. For every other weekend where there is no soccer, I already have a stellar list of profitable entertainment options, each one a guarantee to maximise revenue minus the nasty critics that we get from the soccer audience. Those people are just selfish and cruel and bring down the standard of the matchday experience for our overseas customer base. However, I will have to cross off Cirque Du Soleil as it appears we've already seen that one at our venue this month. Does Boro have the number for Girls Aloud's agent? See you on August 31 for our end of transfer season party.

  29. Arsene, via untraceable mobile device

    Aug 05, 2013, 14:26 #37017

    Dear Ivan: I have slipped away to Cafe Rene for a couple of sneaky cognacs. Please deflect all further questioning regarding football matters until 10.30pm on 31 August. Until then I am keeping my tete down.

  30. nas

    Aug 05, 2013, 14:22 #37016

    silverGooner, if u fork over 35quid and eventually not go watch the game then whats d point? The club have gotten more money to pad up Wenger's salary and u'be been stiffed once again. The only thing thats really gonna shake things up is dropping income from ticket and merchandise sales. that will make the board sit up and listen to the lamentations of the fans. As long as u r buying tickets and generating funds for the board there's no reason for them to take your cries seriously. They r making money, thats all they care about. Complain to high heavens about lack of signings and they won't give a rats a**

  31. Players in 1 Players out 12; multiple choice

    Aug 05, 2013, 13:45 #37015

    consider the following scenario; youve been coming 4th forever. incredibly the top 3 teams above you then all undergo transition all at same time and all have new managers while you have had 20yrs stability. DO you ? A. decide this is the season to go for it and quickly go out and buy 3 top players B. Do nothing C. Do nothing but increase the salaries of the board and management c

  32. maguiresbridge gooner

    Aug 05, 2013, 13:42 #37014

    That's what it was alright, a good days fun a great day out, for the sheep to enjoy themselves spend plenty of money,(first and foremost)have plenty to eat and drink and leave contented, and for the tourists to flock in not needing to be a member to take their photos.The football and the performance of course was secondary as it always is, it didn't matter that nothing has changed no money spent on proper signings, the same mistakes being made by the same personal, the same tippy tappy, found out when we came up against a half decent team, flappy is still er flappy, but we're hearing the excuse already it doesn't matter they were only friendlies,(no such excuse when we were beating the dream teams of Aisa) it will be different when the season starts but as we all know over the years without the proper signings it never is.

  33. Lee

    Aug 05, 2013, 13:38 #37013

    MICHAEL LAUDRUP PLEASE! NOW! AND SOMEONE THAT CAN RUN A FOOTBALL CLUB AND NEGOTIATE PLAYER DEALS! NOT A BUNCH OF CORPORATE LUNCH MUNCH!!

  34. ATID

    Aug 05, 2013, 13:12 #37012

    The media are saying that the home fans were booing at half-time and at the end of the final match. The season hasn't even begun. Well done Arsene.

  35. Goonerjae

    Aug 05, 2013, 12:59 #37011

    I went on saturday as part of a family ticket, the kids enjoyed their first game. Being an emirates cup game I left the stadium with 10 mins to go, id seen enough of the same old same old... nothings changed.... time for a new manager and a fresh dynamic and approach.

  36. John Gooner

    Aug 05, 2013, 12:55 #37010

    How bad does the morale of the club have to get before Wenger get's the boot? My feelings about Arsenal have hit rock bottom, I already know how next season will pan out. Wenger should be involved with Eurozone economics, not Arsenal football club. In the Eurozone he could probably earn his £7m a year and would be praised for his predictable and consistent performance. He needs to lose the dressing room and fast! Unfortunately he has filled the squad with spineless or young (not mutually exlusive) players, who are happy just to be in the team. As soon as a player gets close to criticising the club, or begins to draw some of Wengers power in the dressing room, they're promptly sold. This autocracy rotting the heart of our club needs to stop - How can a man who gets paid £7m a year fail so consistently when up against anything even remotely exceptional? How can people like Gooner and Richard still support this absolute rubbish, please wake up and stop defending such incompetence.

  37. Gaz

    Aug 05, 2013, 12:42 #37009

    Watched both games-wish I hadn't bothered. Boring doesn't really do them justice with us finding out absolutely nothing we didn't allready know. We're a good side with good players and we'll be in the mix for fourth/fifth place again. Sure that'll please the majority of fans who'll tell the rest of us to back the side, stop moaning and wait until next summer when we're in a stronger financial position....

  38. Gary

    Aug 05, 2013, 12:42 #37008

    This is 2011 all over again.Wait till we get into the CL proper then panic buy picking up cheap crap like Squillaci Santos and Park.Wenger wont sign anyone Kroenke wont sack him and the fans just keep quiet and do nothing.What has our club turned into? At any other club there would be a fans revolt.The only thing Gazidis has got right in his time at the club is Wengers fate is in the fans hands.But it seems the majority of fans are happy the way things are.Unf***ing beliveable.We are like the Titanic sinking fast

  39. Tony Evans

    Aug 05, 2013, 12:31 #37007

    Completely disinterested and did not watch any of it. Just bored now by the whole sorry situation at Arsenal.

  40. Angry & Frustrated

    Aug 05, 2013, 12:16 #37006

    As many other have stated on numerous occasions, unless we buy in a complete top quality spine (NOT Wenger's definition of top top quality, but internationally recognized actual top quality) to this team, we will once again finish fourth at best, with possibly a good domestic cup run along the way (subject to lucky draws), but end up winning sweet FA for the ninth season in a row! Without a proper goal keeper, a no nonsense commanding central defender, an over my dead body holding midfielder, plus a top forward, we don't have a prayer. Even if we were to get all these (extremely unlikely, I have more chance winning a lottery jackpot!), we would still remain handicapped by our inept managers tactics/substitutions/team selections, but also always one or two injuries/suspensions away from guaranteed failure as the squad would still be relatively paper thin, such is the current state of affairs! If a well beyond his best Drogba can still get his regular brace against us, what will sharper forwards from the other top clubs here and in Europe achieve? I think we already know the answer to that question - 4 goals conceded at home in the Emirates Cup, our only realistic chance of silverware this season as things stood! Still we can all look forward to the announcement that the clubs turnover has exceeded £300 million. I will go and put the bubbly in the fridge right now in excited preparation of this wonderful new trophy to celebrate, as our fourth placed trophy is becoming so yesterday!!

  41. What was the point in leaving Highbury?

    Aug 05, 2013, 12:03 #37005

    Another who didnt bother to watch it. What's the point? We are now a laughing stock. I just hope Ivan The Liar was giving Dopey enough rope to hang himself by stating he had loads of money to spend. There hasnt been any excuses for several years now although plenty have still tried. This year financial constraint simply can not ever be spouted again. Poor planning by an out of touch manager way past his sell by date. He just never learns on or off the pitch. Mistakes are repeated year in year out. How long has it been since we had a proper keeper now? Loads of players have gone on record talking about making big signings this year. It seems everyone is on the same page except the manager and his new age Arsene FC cult followers. Maybe we do need to finish midtable however unpalletable. And one more thing some of people now claiming to support Arsenal make you seriously wonder!!! Some sections of the crowd resemble the bar in Star Wars.

  42. Mike

    Aug 05, 2013, 12:00 #37004

    @RichardS - my thought exactly. The two old pro's came on and changed the whole dynamics of the game. It goes to show that it only takes two experieced quality players to influence the team - exactly what we need now - dont forget, our goal wasn't even meant to be a shot on target

  43. N4

    Aug 05, 2013, 11:01 #37003

    @ Gooner I'm sure you will soon eat all your words...you must be another deluded fans!

  44. Seven Kings Gooner

    Aug 05, 2013, 11:00 #37002

    Good piece as usual Kev : I think we are seeing other types of fans emerging now, not just the AKB's and the AMG's but those who have bought into the Arsenal brand and those who still see Arsenal first & foremost as a football club. For me those who buy into the brand, now go to Arsenal as part of their designer day, the Ray Bans, FCUK & Diesel clothing, they are people who enjoy wearing and supporting the leading brand names and like to talk about going to Arsenal although they are not really quite sure why they are there!. Where as the genuine football first supporter sees his club slowly and surely being turned into a characterless franchise. Of course we need sponsorship and commerce behind Arsenal but not to take over the club completely - serial winners like Man Utd are going to add back the words "Football Club" to their emblem because in the words of their owner Joel Glazer "We are a football club first not a business" Hopefully we may return to that ethos in the near future before we all loose sight of what Arsenal Football Club really stands for.

  45. Dan h

    Aug 05, 2013, 10:39 #37001

    Unless we get in high quality players which is looking doubtful(4 at least imo) what is the point of signing more overpaid squad players that in a year or two we can't shift.We will be back to square one & that is all that is happening under this manager.The squad thin in numbers & quality so as it stands come November(injuries,suspensions) when Miguel is getting torn a new one what excuses are people willing to use for another poorly planned transfer window?Sorry to repeat myself but this season as it stands has the makings of the start to the 2011 season when he should of walked after OT.The club boasting of a turnover that will reach 300m+ great balance sheet shame about the team one.This was the summer for us where actions needed to speak louder than words all the soundbites from OGL & IG empty words again.I can't believe anything that they say regarding our efforts to sign quality players as this time last year we were told of 'exciting transfer news'by IG.Well we signed Giroud & sold RVP if that's exciting news can't wait to see what happens by the end of August negative views sure because they have given a lot of our fanbase nothing but low expectations.The players are also concerned JW,Arteta,Koscielny & Giroud have all gone on record this close season saying we need quality signings the fans know it,players do also does the highest paid employee?

  46. Rob

    Aug 05, 2013, 10:35 #37000

    I also did not bother watching either of the matches over the weekend, I've got zero enthusiasm and can't remember being so lacking in excitement at the prospect of a new season about to kick-off. Smoke and mirrors from Arsenal again being linked with superstars but we all know none were ever going to be signed. Aim too high for players we can't (don't want to!) afford i so that the board can't be accused of lacking ambition. It's all smoke and mirrors.

  47. John Abrehart

    Aug 05, 2013, 10:28 #36999

    The transfer window really should end on 31st July to be fair to everybody. We all know that competing teams in the Premiership and Europe will hang on to any player until the last minute in order to inconvenience the buying club as much as possible. That is, with the exception of Higuan it appears as Rafa has stated that 'we stepped in as Arsenal dithered'. Our well known parsimony has worked against us again. it is evident that 3-4 players of the right quality are required, a striker arguably the least important. Let's hope that the Suarez saga is a smokescreen for undercover activity for the central defender and midfielder so desperately needed. But don't put your mortgage on it!

  48. SilverGooner

    Aug 05, 2013, 10:18 #36998

    Despite having forked out £35 for a ticket when the tournament was first announced, I couldn't be bothered to go. Why is that? Because I am utterly fed up with the current state of things at our once great club. All the talk of signings has proved to be just that....talk! And as for the Suarez issue, it beggars belief that Wenger would want to take on a whole load of trouble. Just like he can't seem to see that if we seriously want to challenge for the the PL or CL he will need to strenghten the squad in several areas. Another Fabianski cock-up on Saturday. How many more times?! Quite frankly, I am sick to the back teeth of the sight of Wenger and hearing all the utter nonsense that he continually spouts. He is a liability and is holding the club back. Apologies for the rant, but I see this season as just being a repeat of the last ones!

  49. RichardS

    Aug 05, 2013, 10:10 #36997

    Hi Kev. Good piece (despite not seeing it!). I watched most of the game...at home. It was fairly turgid stuff to be honest. Some bright points from the game; Ramsey ran his socks off (as usual) and produced some quality passes. Theo and the Ox looked dangerous when they ran at the defence. Gibbs was solid throughout. However, what struck me most was the difference that Drogba and Sneijder made, when they came on. Real quality players...take note Mr Wenger. It is interesting to contrast this with Theo and the Ox, who have great potential, but seem to lack that real quality to find space, when it is needed. Both had good moments in the game, but were also anonymous for large parts of the match. We lacked any real potency in attack and it was very reminiscent of last season, where we played with effort and desire, but lacked the top quality required to win matches. It is so obvious to me that we have the foundations of a very good team, but need to add some world class players to knit this together into results, and help bring on the players like Ramsey, Ox, Theo, Jenkinson etc. We seem to be banking heavily on Suarez and that is a real concern since Liverpool seem adamant to not sell and I can't see what other world class strikers are out there...and we need one. I think losing Higuain to Napoli will really cost us. We still need 3 or 4 really top players to give us any chance of competing with the top sides. Will we get it????

  50. Moscow Gooner

    Aug 05, 2013, 10:05 #36996

    Wenger's belief 'in what a player is worth' is no more valid than my belief that Arsenal should charge a maximum of £ 250 for a season ticket. The market is the market is the market...

  51. Arseneknewbest

    Aug 05, 2013, 9:47 #36995

    Having secured my free access to BT sports, I convinced myself that these two games would be worth watching. Despite having that sinking feeling beforehand that they would not do well with last year's re-heated leftovers, I welcomed the chance to watch the boys play in gsmes that didn't matter because, paradoxically, it has become so painful to watch them in games that do matter. Nevertheless, yesterday's match was was especially farcical - a gutless and unimaginative performance punctuated by joke defending (how the feck can they look so tired at this stage of the year?), coupled of course with a complete mugging by the ref and that mincing Chelsea reject (who always makes us look so ordinary). I feel sorry for anyone who gave up their day to attend (and who is now probably several hundred quid lighter). It doesn't augur well for our chances in any other trophies this season does it? And signing any racist, diving cannibals who may or may not be available won't lighten the mood either. New manager please!

  52. Gooner

    Aug 05, 2013, 9:45 #36994

    Surely if you are gonna write a piece based on the Emirates cup you probably should have watched it?..... It’s a bit dull reading your pals opinion on the game Kev…We are in a very good position and 2-3 new players are sure to come in. We have stripped the squad of the players who were dead wood and we have a good squad from which to add to. Everyone needs to relax. After all the financial restraints we have been through, we are now coming out the other side. It’s been tough but we have to be proud to have done things the right way!! Keep the faith!!!