Get Lucky?

Online Ed: Southampton gift Arsenal three points



Get Lucky?


I’ll start with an email I received from a sometime correspondent of mine, Sandy Doherty…

Good result, and deserved - Thoughts on today:
• 3 moments of AFC brilliance in 1st half: Wilshere dink to back post, Ramsey backheel, and Ozil taking out two players (the divvy TV Director did not replay the latter – they do not understand football)
• Hit post twice in 1st half so deserved to be up
• All came down the right in the first half
• Arsenal play a lot of long balls now from Szczesny (1st goal ultimately came from one)
• Cazorla anonymous 1st half, outstanding in the 2nd
• With Ozil, Wilshere and Cazorla in the same team we have a different level of class
• Sagna exceptionally solid
• Besides goals, Giroud contributes immensely - in defence, holding the ball up, laying it off, winning headers, pressing, etc.

Only downsides:
• Arteta is not up to it – teams like Southampton play too fast for him, and twice in the 1st half he nearly have cost us a goal
• We are still giving away too many pointless fouls
• We needed a blunder from the Holy Goaly and a penalty that is normally not given to get our goals
We need to keep the momentum going – and hope that Giroud, 1-2 centre backs and 1-2 midfielders all get injured mid-Jan so that AW actually signs some players in Jan…

I always find Mr Doherty’s thoughts enlightening, so thought I would relay them because there is not a hell of a lot to say about this game. However…

I think everyone at Arsenal knew this fixture was not going to be the walkover of Southampton’s visit a year ago, and were prepared to watch a tight encounter. The priority yesterday was points rather than polish, and that is very much the way it turned out. Certainly there were a couple of magic moments when Wilshere and Ramsey hit the woodwork, and the quality of those efforts, for me, meant that Arsenal did indeed deserve the points. Southampton created their own moments of danger, but fluffed their lines.

Yet, they were resilient, competitive and organized. The low goals against tally indicates they have been set up not to lose in the first instance, and from that basis use the mixture of flair and physicality they possess to get more than a point when they can. Mario Pochettino has got a hell of a lot out of a group of players most people had little familiarity with before he arrived at the club. I think he has built a solid enough basis for them to finish in the top half of the table, and it is refreshing to see a side like Southampton mixing it with the big boys.

It took very two cheaply conceded goals to hand the Gunners victory, and in successful seasons, a team will get these kind of breaks. No-one could have foreseen the idiocy of Artur Boric for the opener and shirt pulls are so rarely punished that it was like Christmas come early when Mark Clattenburg pointed to the spot. It relieved the pressure, as Southampton were certainly giving Arsenal cause for concern as long as the lead was a solitary goal.

That Olivier Giroud scored both goals was fitting, as he worked very hard for the team throughout, especially in defence. Everyone is concerned he is going to run out of steam at some point, but who knows? Perhaps it will be France who ultimately suffer as he will surely have little in the tank by the time he gets to Brazil next June.

The suspension of Mathieu Flamini meant that it was Jack Wilshere who played as the wide right attacker rather than Aaron Ramsey, who was in his favoured central position. A confirmation of the current pecking order. The indications are that Wilshere will not be playing every game, which would seem sensible. There are certainly a wealth of options for the two deeper midfield spots, but the feeling is that in the bigger games, Flamini has to be one of them.

Overall, it wasn’t pretty. Southampton played well enough to prevent Arsenal finding much real rhythm at any point, but it was not their day. On another, they would have taken at least a draw. It was an afternoon when the Gunners simply needed to do whatever it took to win, and with a helping hand from Artur Boric, it was a case of job done.

Now for Tuesday and the hope that the team are in no way complacent about the visit of Marseille. It may turn out to be an enjoyable evening, but in Europe, the unpredictable can be just round the corner.

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  1. GaryFootscrayAustralia

    Nov 26, 2013, 4:55 #42129

    Lucky or not, I couldn't give a toss. I'll take scratchy 1-0 wins ahead of pretty patterns with no results every week thanks. Give me a whole season of Parma 94 performances and i'll be a very happy chap.

  2. Westlower

    Nov 25, 2013, 21:06 #42128

    Jeff, Totally agree that Euro games is the real physical & mental drainer. Higher quality opposition + travel = flat performance on return to PL game at weekend. The longer Man City & Chelsea remain in all cup competitions the more the pendulum swings in our favour. Podolski & Ox returning from injury will also give us a boost as we roll into FA Cup games early in Jan.

  3. Gollum

    Nov 25, 2013, 20:48 #42127

    Where is Tony Evans?- None of us have gone away, we're all still here. Watching. Waiting.

  4. jeff wright

    Nov 25, 2013, 20:23 #42126

    Personally Westie i think that the European Cup games produce more negative effects on our Prem aspirations than do the dom ones. Wenger always gives top priority to Euro games . Yes we do have a chance of winning the title but so do City and Chelsea and regarding our prospects of winning the big eared jug .. well that looks rather a tough call tbh because there are a number of top outfits still in the mix. I don't share your rather somewhat laizze faire attitude toward the dom cups Westie - i seee them as being realistic targets to win and to use to help instil a winning mentality in our players and back into our great leader's mind . Unfortunately the recent defeats to Chelsea and United suggest that there is still some work to do before we can dismiss the accusations that we only beat rubbish in the domestic game.

  5. Westlower

    Nov 25, 2013, 19:58 #42125

    Jeff, I must confess that as I get older the domestic cups do very little for me. If we were a consistent mid table side I would view things differently. I'm overjoyed we're already out of the LC and yes I do believe that being involved for too long in cup competitions contributes to player fatigue. Call me naive but I believe we've got a cracking chance of being PL Champions this season. The chemistry of the team feels right this time around.

  6. ALsace Lorraine de Totteridge

    Nov 25, 2013, 19:30 #42124

    Mike. Positivity is my natural state, and I get that way when the goals against column has a very low number in it. I started to get more positive the very second that I heard Flamini had elbowed his way into London Colney and then signed. I haven't changed my mind about Wenger, but he hasn't done anything really bonkers for a good few weeks. Long may it last. The lunatics are no longer in charge of the asylum. Who agrees with me that we should snap up T Henry for 3 games in January? He got us 3 points on his own last time. Great to have him training at the very least.

  7. jeff wight

    Nov 25, 2013, 19:17 #42123

    Westie , i was refering to the moaning helping to change the smug 4th place is a trophy mentality and the selling of our best players each season. 4th highest wage bill in the Prem equates to at least 4th place . Especially when that bill is near 60m more than our nearest competitors for that place - as it was last season. So no brownie points won there by Arsene - just par for the course really. I note however that you avoid mentioning the appalling domestic cup results that we have endured under Wenger in recent times - against lower opponents. Although I do recall that you have implied that domestic cups are not good enough for us or playing in them makes our players tired. I get tired reading and hearing the same old excuses every season and being told that we couldn't do any better than what we are doing.

  8. Westlower

    Nov 25, 2013, 18:42 #42122

    Jeff, When did you first realise that orchestrated moaning had such a profound effect on AFC? If it is the cause of us being top of the league why didn't the moaning start 8 years earlier? The misery we've all endured finishing 4, 4, 3, 4, 3, 4, 3, 4 in the PL. You'd think it was a period of unprecedented failure in the history of AFC. In fact it's the second best consecutive 8 year period in our history when we've never finished worse than 3rd or 4th. This is only bettered by Wenger's first 8 years at AFC.

  9. jeff wright

    Nov 25, 2013, 18:14 #42121

    Yes gooner and co who are already smugly and rather familiarly patronizingly claiming that Wenger's critics have been proven wrong are jumping in a bit too quickly - we have been here before - and it's only a couple of weeks ago that we lost again at Old Trafford. One game at time is what we should be looking at and then see where we are when the medals are handed out - you don't any in November.

  10. maguiresbridge gooner

    Nov 25, 2013, 17:51 #42120

    jeff wright, i echo your comments there's nothing to celebrate and crow about yet, and if we do go on and win silverware this season as Canada has already alluded to, it won't suddenly make up for the last eight years of failure.

  11. jeff wright

    Nov 25, 2013, 16:50 #42119

    I make you right Canada it's far too soon to say that Wenger's turned things around ,he's been like a drowning man desperately treading water for the past 8 years . If it's a case of land ahoy now is something that we will discover come May, or perhaps a bit sooner. It's just as well that every supporter did not adopt gooner's ( very original that handle) attitude that everything is honk-dory so there is no need to moan. It was the supporters complaining that forced Wenger and Stan's lack-lustre crew who pose as a board to do a bit more to improve the situation from the club being seen as just a training centre for young talent who then move on when proper clubs come calling. We still need to see Wenger winning something though and also to improve his results against United and Chelsea,etc, so far this season it's just been deja vu the past 8 with Arsene still struggling to beat these opponents. It's nice being top of the league of course especially in view of the spuds situation ,however it's being there at the end of the season that counts 4 points is not a big lead at this time of season . It'sup to Wenger to prove his critics wrong regarding claims that he can't hack it anymore against the likes of Mourinho and Pep. Wenger is expect to beat teams like Southampton and Cardiff .

  12. CanadaGooner

    Nov 25, 2013, 15:36 #42118

    @ Gooner - perhaps Kev will have positive stuff to write about Wenger, when he begins to get positive results for his wages. I think on balance, Kevin's post-match reports have been very fair and factual; but again, people (yourself included) are free to judge it as they please, and your decision not to buy the Gooner is all yours. We have gone 8 years with no trophies, and there are no guarantees yet, that we will change that this season; so, you may just end up being the embarrassed party at the end of the season. In any case, even if we win the premiership this season, it doesnt explain what's happened the past 8 years. We will all be happy and celebrate it, but dont get carried away matey.

  13. Ron

    Nov 25, 2013, 14:47 #42117

    Westie - I know its difficult and no, i wouldnt touch Ba either. They couldnt get Benteke (not totally convinced about him yet anyway really). The Club put too much store by the Higuain and Suarez issues really, when getting either was maybe unlikely. Lets face it, all of Arsenes gushing we hearing now over OG was near being contemplated by him in August. Youre right that we wont get a top marque striker, but we dont really need top marque now do we? A Defoe type would be hungry and we know he d plunder a few goals, plus OG could get a rest v the lesser lights while Walcott and The Pod do get a go. PS Its a fair point you make re Pods credentials, but i would say that the majority of his caps have come during a period when German footie was in the doldrums and not during the last 3 years since theyve become a re emerged force again. I do quite like the Pod, but i suspect there are known, underlying fitness issues that we re not party too. Walcotts OK and has his moments, but he s a bit of a balsa wood enigma. Once his pace starts to falter, theres not going to be much left as i see it.

  14. Gooner

    Nov 25, 2013, 14:44 #42116

    Kev these pieces are becoming boring and predictable. Unfortunately I will never pay for another Gooner until you go. You should actually resign anyway for all the anti Wenger posts you have written. I bet you cant stand us doing well. I would be embarressed if I were you. Thanks for adding Sandie's thoughts though. Maybe Sandy should be the editor?

  15. Westlower

    Nov 25, 2013, 14:26 #42115

    Ron, I can't believe they'll be any quality strikers available in Jan? The only players for sale will be either nearly out of their contract or not getting picked for the first team at their club. Buying a dud would have a demoralising effect both for the team & fans. We are fortunate in that we have a potential abundance of goals in our talented midfield players. I know you don't rate Theo & Pod highly but they do score goals. If I said to you we're buying a top German striker who's played 111 times and scored 46 International goals for the top rated nation in World football you'd snatch my hand off. He's already here mate and is familiar with Ozil's style of play. Why bring in a Defoe, Ba, Benteke when we've already got better.

  16. Ron

    Nov 25, 2013, 13:55 #42114

    Afternoon guys. Westie - Hear what youre saying matey but Giroud has already said he thinks we need another forward to assist him. Even if he stays physically fit, he ll tire badly esp with the Xmas program. Recall Adebayor in 08. He had carried us so well once RVP got his injuries but once Eddie was poleaxed, Adebayor just ran out of steam. Giroud s made of sterner stuff than Adebayor im sure, but with stress and tiring his sharpnesss will fail. It has to. We need a forward at least, as we cant rely on Walcott or Podolski. Both always flatter to deceive, neither is very durable and then eventually drop off the radar due to injury. Cant abide that cretin Suarez but hes good, but we missed a trick in August, they should have thrown Walcott into the bid plus 25-28 Mill. I reckon Liverpool would have gone for that and later regretted it. All academic now i know, but Giroud needs a sound and sharp partner/back up. If the other players are too flaky to cope with new additions coming in, they need to wake up and get a life or move on. The Club dynasties like Liverpool and Utd are built on new players coming in when a team is strong, not when the team is desperate. Arsenal have been failing in that following that basic message since 1971 and you seem to be underpinning it. Respect as ever pal, but its Wengers job to make sure a sqaud understands the need for a vitality in the sqaud if theyre to win things. The squad would love it if a proven scorer joined us in January.

  17. maguiresbridge gooner

    Nov 25, 2013, 13:32 #42113

    WeAreBuilding, your right mate nauseating is the word. And the failed managers such as Shearer, Keane, Merson, Southgate etc who make up these panels, i think some kid asked Hansen a while back if your such an expert why are you not a manager? i'd have loved to see his face.It always amazes me how these failed managers when sacked always land another job either as another manager or some so called expert panel.

  18. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Nov 25, 2013, 13:09 #42112

    [email protected]: mate I would pay good money to watch on telly a panel of "experts" have their pre-season predictions read back to them in late May...sad to say though they are all so up their own arsenals that it won't happen. How, I ask myself, does one land such a cushy number? For a beer and a few quid I will be willing to go on TV and talk b****x for 1/2 an hour like they do too. Where is it written that such luminaries as the nauseating Oliver Hunt and pretty boy Robbie Savage are now the fount of all knowledge in footballl land? Even the Beeb are in on the act with the MOTD II Sunday morning talkshow -which looks like a clear rip-off of Soccer AM.

  19. Where is Tony Evans?

    Nov 25, 2013, 11:46 #42111

    Where is Tony Evans?

  20. Paul Adams

    Nov 25, 2013, 11:35 #42110

    I was proud of our team on Saturday,from my lofty position on the North Bank,I was proud of BFG,& how he marshalled the defence,I was proud of La la la Giroud, & I was even proud of the 15 minute delay to let in delayed supporters, but was most proud the way all the team applauded us at final whistle,before departing the pitch, & hey Gooners you should be proud as well!, although these Posts are littered with cynics,& I suggest,Spuds.

  21. Seven Kings Gooner

    Nov 25, 2013, 11:19 #42109

    Westflower - you make a great point about team spirit but with the volume of games coming up in the last third of the season I feel we need some more experience. If Giroud stays fit then you may well be right but looking at the players both Chelsea and City have, we clearly have the least experienced squad.

  22. GoonerRon

    Nov 25, 2013, 10:42 #42108

    @ Westlower - you're right in that with our current position we need everyone to back the team if we are going to be successful. In terms of us being outwardly confident we can win it, I get what you are saying and to an extent I agree, however with a number of similar positions over the years that didn't produce a trophy I can see why people are erring on the side of caution at this still early stage. Re: the pundits and so-called experts, I completely agree and would love to see pre-season and mid-season predictions played back at the end of the year to highlight their reactionary views. Of course, it won't happen as it would prove how hapless the majority of them are.

  23. Westlower

    Nov 25, 2013, 10:09 #42107

    SKG, I don't believe it's a good idea bringing in more players in January. Do you remember big signing Faustino Asprilla disrupting Newcastles bid for the League title when top in February 1996. He was signed to guarantee the title but it backfired spectacularly It's gives the wrong message to the current team that we don't believe you're good enough. The team spirit is reported to be very strong within the present AFC squad and best left alone unless key injuries force a signing.

  24. Westlower

    Nov 25, 2013, 9:42 #42106

    Gooner Ron, I'm not seeking to rock the boat with fellow Gooners. Everybody has their own view of life at AFC and it's refreshing so many varying opinions are aired on this site. Hell, I even enjoy reading Finsbury Joes thoughts from up the Lane. My concern is we should shout unashamedly loud and proud that we are capable of winning the PL. Leave the anxiety, doubts & booing (yes there was some booing on Saturday at Bendtner's name being announced) at home because ultimately it will affect individuals & the teams performances. Yes we do need to display some humility but we mustn't be afraid to show our confidence in becoming champions once more. We mustn't become apologetic in case we offend someone. If Gooners still don't believe in our own team then I don't know what it's going to take to get them on side? What more can the team do but sit top of both the PL & CL Group?. There was a vicious media witch hunt to get Wenger out in August, eg. the Sun predicting Wenger would be gone by end of September, Merson on Sky reckoned he'd be gone by Christmas. Let's see some admission and humility from the media lynch mob that their knee-jerk judgement's were badly flawed. It's a cop out waiting until the last kick of the season before nailing our colours to the mast! Thankfully the home support is improving but let's not fall back to our negatives ways should a game not be going our way.

  25. Gaz

    Nov 25, 2013, 9:19 #42105

    Well said GoonerRon. I think all of us who've been critical of Wenger are both encouraged and delighted by our start to the season. But lets not get ahead of ourselves here as we've had other impressive starts before but not been able to carry them through to the end of the season. The main thing for me is that this start has unified the fans to some extent so with a long way to go I dont think either set should be coming out just yet with the 'I told you so's...'. As I said at the start of the season theres something for both 'sets' of fans to be happy about right now. Those of you who we're in the positive camp can rightly say they kept the faith etc-whilst those of us in the negative camp can rightly say it's the signing of a truly world class player-something we've always advocated-thats made the difference. Either way we are where we are and lets just all enjoy the ride...

  26. Seven Kings Gooner

    Nov 25, 2013, 9:14 #42104

    Westflower - Please, please do not compare us with the Spuds and as for Talktottenham I stopped listening to that station years ago. The Spuds are a media created illusion, remember the World cup venue's in the UK and how the FA suggested that games would be played at the new WHL stadium. It did n't even exist it was a cyber stadium and still is!! We have to compare ourselves with Man City, Chelsea and Man Utd, one of those three I believe will win the title, I still think we need class re-enforcements, competition for places improves a team's performance. However what is different this year is we are making less mistakes and the teams around us are dropping un-expected points. I will not even think about titles until end of March, a couple of experienced signings is now what is needed. I really would like Mascherano and Dzeko, Mascherano can play two positions, centre half and holding midfield, he would be great for "grinding out" results. However I do like Ron's idea of taking a punt on Defoe.

  27. Bard

    Nov 25, 2013, 9:02 #42103

    Winning when youre not playing well is the hallmark of a good side. We were ok but nothing more but 3 points is great news especially with the 'totts' getting well and truly spanked. Great weekend.

  28. GoonerRon

    Nov 25, 2013, 8:52 #42101

    @ Westlower - you know I'm a big admirer of Wenger but in my opinion we should show some humility at this point. Those in favour of keeping Wenger in the past have always asked for those not in favour to judge him at the end of the season when things weren't going great, so we should do the same when things are going well. Don't get me wrong, I'm massively encouraged by our start to the season and firmly believe we will be in the thick of the title race at the business end of the season, but surely we should all look to unify and support the team for now and worry about recriminations, told-you-so's etc when the last ball is kicked?

  29. Westlower

    Nov 25, 2013, 8:33 #42100

    What impact will it have on Giroud if AFC buy a a new striker in Jan? Will Giroud's self confidence take a knock if he's left out of a successful team? Every International class player will have one eye on the World Cup and will want games. Where have all the media 'AW out' critics gone? Some were predicting he'd be gone by September, others by Christmas? Where are the flawed judges who were telling us on a daily basis that the Totts have a stronger squad than AFC? Sky pundits, TalkSport experts, journalists, ex-players, including ex AFC players. In the words of Delia Smith "where are you? Let's be having you". ABV is now 9/4 to last the season as boss of the Totts. Spurs are 3/1 to finish top 4 & AFC are 3/1 to win PL. Spend, spend, spend hasn't worked for the Lilywhites, shame that!

  30. Mike

    Nov 25, 2013, 8:19 #42099

    @Alsace - dont tell me you are actually becoming positive - agree with every word you wrote which is a first - even to Rosicky starting. Nice to see the two much vaunted managers in Moyes and AVB dismanteling their teams bit by bit

  31. Jim

    Nov 25, 2013, 2:33 #42096

    Let's hope that Giroud gets injured everyone! What have the editorials on this website become? Kevin has spewed so much rubbish about Wenger over the past few years that he is unable to enjoy our start to the season.

  32. unchives

    Nov 24, 2013, 21:06 #42095

    After a disappointing performance against the mancs, points made up...thank you very much. Catch us if you can.Where are spurs by the way?

  33. Westlower

    Nov 24, 2013, 20:50 #42094

    Ron, Predictable flat performance after the International break. Even affected Southampton as Lallana only lasted an hour. Two bonus points for us as I thought it had all the ingredients to be a 0-0. We could now turn into the new year with 42 points under our belt. Southampton will take points off the top teams as the season progresses. We needed a fully fit Walcott to exploit the spaces behind their high line but he was ring rusty and off the pace in his brief 20 minute appearance. Good management though to bring him on against his old team, AKB! Theo received rapturous applause when he came on for Cazorla. Bit by bit the home crowd is waking up to the fact their watching a very good team.

  34. Gaz

    Nov 24, 2013, 20:45 #42093

    Watched the whole game this morning and I thought we were far more impressive than I was led to believe from various reports. Southampton are a really good side but I felt we dealt with them in a really professional way. Good to see Jack looking better and spending less time on the ground whilst Ramsey just gets better and better. Long way to go and all that but there's a definite feeling that things are different this season. Of course we've been here before mind so I'm not going to go too overboard just yet. As for the Scum ha ha ha ha ha ha ha you ****ing mugs!!!

  35. Peter Hughes

    Nov 24, 2013, 19:30 #42092

    Asked just before kick off would we win. Replied if we are good enough we will. There will be more games like yesterday in a season then great ones. I wonder about some of the comments concerning Ozil. He is trully world class & was only a fraction from creating goals. They were not needed but in future games he will prove the difference between a loss & draw or draw & win. He was fouled a fair bit as well not getting many decisions. Any doubters watch the any game again & watch Ozil's touches.

  36. Ron

    Nov 24, 2013, 19:27 #42091

    Maybe showed a bit too much respect for the Saints. 3 points though, and in November thats all that matters really.

  37. maguiresbridge gooner

    Nov 24, 2013, 18:28 #42089

    Alasce, well said i just love a good 6-0 thriller tee hee.

  38. Peter Wain

    Nov 24, 2013, 18:14 #42088

    In our position the win is all important. Look at the scum this afternoon pretty decent performance first half but fell to pieces in second half. Hope that play that well against United.

  39. BADARSE

    Nov 24, 2013, 18:14 #42087

    westlower, Tottenham do have to at least aim for the top half of the table to be in with a shout of Europa football next season. Nothing is a given!

  40. Alsace Lorraine de Totteridge

    Nov 24, 2013, 18:13 #42086

    What stood out a mile was the composure of the team against very difficult banana skin type opponents. The Borussia Dortmund clashes meant we were prepared to face a pressing team and there was concentration from first to last. Even when Arteta did forget himself about ensuring the defence when attacking, Ramsey and BFG were alive to the problem and did seem to organise things. This is a huge leap forward as I had feared for the absence of Flamini. With him back in the side we will have greater freedom to strike, as he concentrates on stopping the other side playing. Clattenberg was a huge bonus because although the crowd were irritated by some of his decisions against us, he enforces the rules, so that when some oaf did pull BFG's shirt in the area he points to the spot rather than ignores cheating. This result is a significant pointer to a huge change. Even when wenger destabilised the team by the substitution of Theo for Carzorla, Rosicky and Nacho were quickly on to shore it up again, Rosicky giving them plenty to think about and Nacho doing what he does best, winning the ball and using it intelligently. I'm always pleased to see him come on, and I would prefer Rosicky to start as he drives the team forward. Not a 6-0 thriller, but, in context a very encouraging result. Actual progress, not imaginary progress.

  41. Westlower

    Nov 24, 2013, 18:04 #42085

    Finsbury Joe, Wouldn't swap our lump Bendtner for your £26m misfit Solado. Maybe the Spuds didn't dare enough today? At least be consoled your team has found it's true level, the Europa Cup!

  42. 600NER PETE

    Nov 24, 2013, 17:47 #42084

    A bit lucky but a good three points. On a separate issue, can someone please remind referees that Fergie is no longer at Old Trafford so they are now allowed to play to the rules and send UTD players off if they deserve to go!

  43. maguiresbridge gooner

    Nov 24, 2013, 17:42 #42083

    WeAreBuilding, i bet he's crying today.

  44. maguiresbridge gooner

    Nov 24, 2013, 17:29 #42082

    GoonerRon, not only the chasing pack.

  45. Eddie

    Nov 24, 2013, 16:32 #42081

    And all without Flamini! Quite an important factor as Southampton are no mugs.

  46. maguiresbridge gooner

    Nov 24, 2013, 15:51 #42080

    Sandy's not to far wrong any signings we make in Jan will have fallen into our lap like Flamini (are any out of work players training with us at the minute?)Yes we needed a major cock up for one of our goals and a pen for the other, we shouldn't laugh really as we've experienced it ourselves with keepers maybe not on that level but laughable all the same, ah what the hell, tee hee hee, idiot, if it was the other way round you can imagine the laughing. It wasn't a great game and will only be remembered for the Boric cock up tee hee but it was two points all the same and that's all that matters, oh and good news for England Walcott's back.

  47. DW Thomas

    Nov 24, 2013, 15:12 #42079

    Aim happy with a slice of skepticism. Been let down too many times. But we are top and I am enjoying that. Walcott and or Pod will not win us the league though will they? We need that last piece, a good workhorse striker with some silky skills to give Giroud a rest when needed without depleting the team too much. Ido see the positives. Ramsey playi g well, the defense is solid, and Sczez keeping us in games. Just don't say we're there yet. Cause we aren't. We need to play each game with something to prove!

  48. CanadaGooner

    Nov 24, 2013, 14:41 #42078

    AVB should be a ball-boy at Tottenham, not the manager. ha ha. If we can keep on beating the southamptons and fulhams and newcastles or the league, the trophy will be ours. Those teams will surprise chelski and citeh every now and again. The two managers who have won the premiership the most (in the absence of fergie), have got to be favourites to slug it out this season, as they both know what it takes to win it. Shame Wenger's record against Mourinho isn't great, but we'll have to wait and see. Well done you gooners!!!

  49. Westlower

    Nov 24, 2013, 14:22 #42077

    DW Thomas, What's it going to take for you to see the positives in this team? Do you want Pod & Theo moved on in Jan? How would Roberto Soldado suit as our striker, bargain at £26m! Spent yesterday afternoon listening to some great judge who reckoned Ozil 'isn't interested', whatever that means? Ramsey is in the team because he's scoring goals. What's not to like being 4 points clear in the PL?

  50. DW Thomas

    Nov 24, 2013, 14:01 #42076

    Good result, but we should be beating lesser teams routinely shouldn't we if we are to contend? Wilshire provides so much more going forward than Ramsey and he deserved that chip as a goal! Ozil seems a little off or maybe that's just him. Quiet until he does something special? Arteta does look,way too slow lately. Shame we didn't get him years ago! If Wenger's recent comments about being strong enough with Pod and Walcott coming back are adhered to, I fear this team will fizzle yet again. Maybe it's just to keep the prices down. Who knows. But this team will be stresses to the limit soon and who do we have as backup? The Danish Samurai? Saw pics of Park training too. what does he do for the team now? Again, we are so close yet still not there. Everytime Giroud pulls up we all collectively gasp don't we?

  51. artetasnotuptoit

    Nov 24, 2013, 13:52 #42075

    square peg in round hole. can't see what OGL sees in him. no pace, no vision, no strength, no captain.

  52. Westlower

    Nov 24, 2013, 13:08 #42074

    Who drops out to accommodate these 3-5 new signings? Very shortly our bench will be any from Monreal, Vermaelen, Ox, Podolski, Rosicky, Gnabry, Flamini. Good job you clowns are not managing our football club. I was ashamed of the idiots sneaking their bottles of booze into the seating areas yesterday. The stewards confiscated some but not all by a long way. Standing areas? You immature morons who can't go 30 minutes without a drink should be thrown out. I say 30 minutes because some came back to their seats 10 minutes into the 2nd half, then occasional loo breaks before leaving 5 mins from the end. Go to the pub instead of the Emirates if you can't survive without a drink or a piss! You're simply not mature enough to be allowed a standing area. The anonymity of a standing crowd will allow you the opportunity to hurl your bottles at the victim of your choice.

  53. jjetplane

    Nov 24, 2013, 12:47 #42073

    Only got to hear the radio on this one but Martin Keown was in awe and wonder at the noise the crowd was making. I could hear it and it was a moving sound. Three points are priceless against a team this well schooled so looking forward from afar to tuesday with a few signs that this team are improving their game by using other avenues like long balls, shoring up at the back. Cardiff - you know we love ya!

  54. Gee

    Nov 24, 2013, 12:25 #42072

    3 points is king. How often have we all been on here saying we can't close games out or dominate a lower level side only to draw 1-1. I now only care for the result and 3 points keeps me very very happy. People who said we were unlucky v United, saying there was nothing between the teams 2 weeks ago are wrong. The difference was 1 goal and 3 points and ultimately results are what dictates.

  55. BADARSE

    Nov 24, 2013, 11:39 #42070

    Thanks Kevin, another win to report on, long may the trend continue. There are many asides in any one performance, GoonerRon hit on a perfect one, The rest of the chasing pack will have been disappointed, some perhaps temporarily disheartened by us claiming three points. That is something to savour. I don't share Gunner SA's view. I was glad the Liverpool derby ended level, I have a fair amount of respect for Everton and those extra two points and a big lift from beating their little neighbours would be too positive for me. This morning they are a disappointed team. I wouldn't be surprised if they stay in the race throughout with a place above their local rivals a real possibility, so both dropping two points was good for me. Olivier stands as a very good Arsenal centre forward in my book, yesterday he showed such commitment and fortitude. Very pleased.

  56. Georgaki-pyrovolitis

    Nov 24, 2013, 10:54 #42069

    Kevin Are you serious? Did you share that email from 'Sandy Doherty' as something insightful for us to enjoy? That guy just advocated serious injury to up to FIVE players. What the hell are you smoking? What a disgrace, with friends like you who needs enemies.

  57. radfordkennedy

    Nov 24, 2013, 10:51 #42068

    The BFG and KOs played very well I thought considering that their protection in front namely Wiggy is to slow to react to a threat to our box,time and tide and indeed the slowing of legs wait for no man,and his time is up.....Another so what game from Ozil,and another grafting fighting for the cause display from Giroud....Hats off to the Saints by far the best organised and together team ive seen this season...c'mon City,c'mon Cardiff

  58. Gunner SA

    Nov 24, 2013, 10:45 #42067

    Three points and glad Liverpool dropped two (wish it had been three) at Goodison Park. "Cazorla outstanding in the 2nd" Are you feeling alright Mr Doherty {?????}

  59. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Nov 24, 2013, 10:26 #42066

    is it right that Soton only conceded 6 goals in the league up till yesterday? In which case the 3 pts tastes even sweeter. But there was me thinking only our keeper is allowed to throw the ball in the net :-) and the look on Garth Crooks' face on Final Score as the penalty went in was worth the price of the 15 minute delay...thought he was actually going to start crying for a minute.

  60. Gooner_cy

    Nov 24, 2013, 9:34 #42065

    A solid performance. In games between top 6 teams, the bottom line is what counts. And the bottom line reads 3 more points in the bag (plus opening the gap with 2nd). What i like this year is that our deep midfielders are protecting our back four much more effectively, reducing opposition efforts to long range shots. Also impressed with Schezny. Has done incredibly well when called upon to keep us alive in tight games. I know the past haunts us and does not allow us to dream but fellow gooners, you can't ignore the signs...

  61. Colonel chunder

    Nov 24, 2013, 9:31 #42064

    You need a bit of luck to win the league - long may it continue

  62. GoonerRon

    Nov 24, 2013, 9:24 #42063

    Not vintage but played well with the ball in patches and played well without it too. Really good three points, I'd imagine some of the chasing pack had Southampton down to take something.