Could defeat at United prove to have a significant silver lining?

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Could defeat at United prove to have a significant silver lining?


I write this prior to our game against Everton and following defeats suffered by Manchester United and Chelsea; with Manchester City also dropping points at hardworking Southampton. Arsenal are confounding the critics (many Gooners among them!) and playing with a fervour, style and consistency not seen for some time.

In light of David Moyes’ apparent inability to continue Alex Ferguson’s dynasty, there is significant rancour that our performance at Old Trafford was poor – even embarrassing. Mitigation might be found in a virulent bug which apparently swept through the squad; but in any event, Arsenal did not have a shot of note until 73 minutes. That van Persie’s goal flattered United is arguable, the frustration stems from the notion that we have an inferiority complex when facing the “very top” teams. Any inability to compete in those games has been used as a stick to beat Arsenal – however previous such assurances may be.

Pertinently, Arsenal are the top team at present, having been the most consistent team of 2013. Each week those journalists whose hobbies seem to include trolling Gooners appear more desperate and ridiculous in their insistence that the title cannot possibly be won by a “paper–thin” Arsenal squad. Nobody within the Club is suggesting that it is a forgone conclusion (the folly of such arrogant expectations having led to disappointment in various games during the last 8 years). Astute additions would not only be welcome in January, but appear essential. The signing of Mesut Ӧzil is hopefully a portent of further judicious, but equally ambitious expenditure within our means and the benefit of such acquisitions is beyond doubt.

Prior to January, we face Everton, Napoli, Manchester City and Chelsea. Avoidance of key absences may require luck, as well as judgement, but these are games that Arsenal can look forward to with reasonable anticipation. Crucially, the class of 2013 must believe that they can prosper in these fixtures. Much of the improvement this season has been attitudinal – the desire to offer teams 90 plus minutes of endeavour and to fight as a unit, shoulder–to–shoulder; thriving on the challenge of adversity.

Discounting the opening day defeat and Capital One Cup reverse, Arsenal have provided answers to nearly all questions asked of them. Where they have fallen short, accusations were levelled about the psychological context of the losses. Conversely, with the exception of these games, Wojciech Szczęsny, Aaron Ramsey, Kieran Gibbs, Bacary Sagna and Per Mertesacker have led by example in challenging expectations again and again. Others, like Olivier Giroud, Laurent Koscielny and Jack Wilshere have worked hard to largely eradicate the deficiencies in their game.

The concern should not be whether other teams are significantly better this term, rather whether any notion of Financial Fair Play will again prove a misnomer come the New Year. Arsenal are competing again and on the terms which, in recent seasons, have provided opportunity for detractors to rejoice in a relative paucity of finances and honours. Nothing has been won, but the Club is presently far better placed to exude the longer term virtues of circumstances which precipitated an extended period of dissatisfaction.

The dressing room should only reflect upon the notion that Arsenal cannot win the title as a means of defiant inspiration; not as any meaningful decree – any further motivation gifted as a gratuity. Before the transfer window swings open, we have opportunity to set ourselves for a sustained title challenge. Most fans feel that, given the cost of supporting the Club, an ability to challenge represents a fair return on their considerable investment. On recent evidence and borrowing from Franklin D. Roosevelt, I would suggest that the only thing to fear is fear itself.

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  1. Ron

    Dec 10, 2013, 10:00 #42660

    Roy of .... Fart it is then!! No worries with that matey.

  2. Roy of the rubber

    Dec 09, 2013, 21:35 #42651

    Ron you are sounding more and more like an prehistoric fart with zero appreciation of the modern game. Respect your opinion as a right back though

  3. Ron

    Dec 09, 2013, 19:42 #42649

    Reggie - prefer to see myself as realistic, right or wrong opinions but totally honest in trying to form a few. I don't mind acolytes who think criticism of our great Club is heresy as i m happy to ignore most of them, same as i will you now that i can see youve little or nothing of any substance to offer. Theres a few of you about unfortunately fella.

  4. Reggie

    Dec 09, 2013, 14:52 #42637

    Jeff Wright and Ron back to their old whinging ways after one draw.

  5. Westlower

    Dec 09, 2013, 11:22 #42619

    Ron, In any top sporting event it's important to get an edge over your competitor, whether it be real or imagined. I'm overjoyed if my dog or horse gets a favourable trap/stall draw. It's the small detail that gives you a winning advantage. From there you hope your animal/team has the mental toughness & talent to succeed. It's a very thin line between first & second. If I have a bet on two evenly matched teams the only question I ask is, who's got an advantage in today's circumstance. On Saturday it's convincingly Man City! Should AFC win there on Saturday the League is over, call me a cynic but that's why these man made obstacles suddenly appear. Yes, I'm probably as paranoid as AW but we all started out by being nice, trusting individuals but bad experiences make us more wary wherever men & money are concerned .

  6. Ron

    Dec 09, 2013, 10:52 #42616

    Westie - I know what your saying mate and respect too. Im with you totally on TV being the ruination of the game as you know. Im fairly informed by 5 Prem players though on this issue who ive known quite well through my own involvement in under 14s football. 2 from the latish 90s and 3 from the noughties and if they were typing to you now they would say to you that the tiredness thing does exist but not near or even close to as fundamnetally as these coaches spin it. 2 of those guys are from clubs whove done CL play to quite an extent. The travel can drain despite the luxury they do it in. Theyre not on Ryanair matey and they dont stay in Benidorm 2 star jobs, when they do actually stay over in Europe, which isnt often and hasnt been for 8-9 years.

  7. Westlower

    Dec 09, 2013, 10:40 #42614

    Ron You're remembering football as it used to be 20+ years ago. It used to be a level playing field, with knackered players in both teams, some with hangovers. The fixtures were played at essentially the same time. TV money is the games new corruption and results may be affected by giving one team an advantage. The date of our game against Everton was changed late in the day, after I bought tickets when it was a Saturday 3.0 kick off. They had already brought the Man City kick-off forward to 12.45. Not for the first time Sky are distorting events in PL. Credit to Man City having already qualified in CL, and it'll enable them to field a shadow team in Munich on Tuesday. They'll be in a position to start their prep on Wednesday giving the 72 hours rest bite. AFC'S prep will be limited to Friday at best. Similar circumstance to 2-8 except we have less injuries/suspensions this time. Recovery time from travelling is a factor in fatigue. As I've mentioned before from my experiences with greyhounds & racehorses you can only hold them at a physical peak for so long. Human beings are no different. The game is so much faster now, partly down to improved pitches, and a different type of player has evolved. Our teams of yesteryear would look pedestrian in comparison to today's team. Can you imagine Stroller trying to keep up?

  8. Ron

    Dec 09, 2013, 10:00 #42609

    Westie - Youve clearly not seen Everton this season or your happier just being in denial that our team really isnt that good. They (Everton) been playing that way all season.Thats maybe why theyve lost fewer games than any other Club!! Arsenal were lucky theyve got as inadequate strikers as we ve got otherwise we d have lost. The truth is that your adorable Mr Wenger, thought he could beat them with his f-----g 'handbrake' on, the arrogant chump, bearing in mind his CL erection for the Napoli game standing hard and proud for midweek midweek (a game that he doesnt even have to win,in a tourny he ll never win in a million years so it shows his flaky character once more). Its not your precious tiredness that will cause grief at Man City, its the fact theyre a better team and have a sqaud that shd and will win the title as Maureen says. Always have to smile at your tiredness excuses you always use well in advance. Ive news for you matey, when youre playing the game and on a roll, you get knocks but adrenalin gets you past them. Mental tiredness doesnt occur. Wenger in the main and other coaches of the so called SKY 4/5 have sold you that pup for years and you and many others have bought it.Its all bollocks and its the hi tec gadgetry that they use to justify their spiel.

  9. Westlower

    Dec 09, 2013, 9:24 #42601

    Rockin (Living) in the Free(Real) world, "There's colours on the street, Red, White & blue.... there's a lot of people saying we'd be better off dead." It'll get worse yet chaps as it'll take something exceptional to get a result at Man C after playing in Naples 48 hours earlier. All the advantages are with Man City - Fact! Even if we lose on Saturday AFC are still on target to get 40 to 42 points by year end. Realistically we could be on 55 points by the time we play Liverpool away on Feb 8th, with 42 points still to play for. Despite Everton playing above themselves and us under-performing we could still have scored 3 or 4 goals. Latest PL winners odds 7/4 Man C; AFC 9/4; Chelsea 4/1; Liverpool 9/1; Man U 33/1; Spurs 66/1 (I always put that in for our friend Finsbury Joe - dream on son).

  10. Terry

    Dec 09, 2013, 8:29 #42599

    Finsbury Joe, Spurs are garbage and extremely boring. AVB would be wearing the Gunnersaurus costume if he was employed by Arsenal. As far as the cup game is concerned you will bring your hush hush boys who after 70 minutes would have all melted with a mass fire drill exercise in the Clock End.

  11. Unchives

    Dec 09, 2013, 2:06 #42598

    If the Everton game was a cup final we would have lost. Loss or Draw against Citeh & Chelsea is the maximum I see this team getting. No signing in January, panic in February CHALLENGE OVER!

  12. jeff wright

    Dec 08, 2013, 23:12 #42597

    I said the other day that Wenger himself is the biggest problem that we have winning what is a winnable league this year. Chris took me to task over my comments,but I reiterate them . I used to make excuses for him and argue with others like Westflower does,but I have a lower tolerance level than he does . After 5 years of this I had had enough and concluded that Wenger's best days are behind him, regarding winning trophies. Obviously he is still up to getting a top 4 place ,although he's only just managed that on a few occasions,last being one of them. Wenger's been dining out on results against lower sides in the Prem and a couple of wins away to German ones in Europe last season and this - albeit having lost to them both at home. This form though, after struggling United's emphatic away win to the German's second best league side shows that it's unwise to get carried away with these sort of cup game results. Despite his late unlucky strike at goal Giroud played like a cart-horse today , the big on-loan Chelsea striker was no better for Everton either . The striker situation at Chelsea, and with us also ,looks to be where City have a big advantage .

  13. Ron

    Dec 08, 2013, 22:20 #42596

    Jeff - Wengers arrogance is boundless. His whinging on that touchline today was pathetic. He even whinged at the Everton bench ie coaching staff/medics etc. Their faces were a picture. Its not surprising there's a general perceived dislike for him in that league. Its not just because hes French either. There have been many Frenchmen in football and other sports over here that the crowds and the sports have taken too.Hes ever the victim. 'Why me, why me' and 'tell that nasty tackler off ref or ill take my ball home'!! Makes me want to spew.Always has.The spin off is that his teams adopt the same airs. Its destructive from within.

  14. jeff wright

    Dec 08, 2013, 21:47 #42595

    Our players need to stop claiming that they are a great side Ron,once again this talk is premature. Great sides become that by winning trophies , not by players talking themselves up. Wenger himself predictably recently claimed that he doesn't need any advice from anyone.However, 8 trophy-less years with our sides constantly coming up short to the expectations that Wenger claimed they would achieve suggests otherwise.

  15. dannyb

    Dec 08, 2013, 21:41 #42594

    Reading this most would think that we are 5pts off the bottom not 5 pts clear at the top may be you should all be guests on motd they would love your opinions

  16. Ron

    Dec 08, 2013, 21:05 #42593

    Guys. Look for rational explanations and justifications all you like but there youve seen why that lot are not going to be champions. Pressure to get a result there today so to allow for a slip up at City (highly likely). They failed and cdt handle it. Frightened to attack and support Giroud. The great England hope Wilshere was anonymous. Cazorla - hiding again v a powerful opponent. Ozil - nullified by the plodder Barry. Walcott - Mr great from the bench? Do me a favour. Weak as piss and may as well not have come on for what he changed. Rosicky - Been a good player. Not near cut out for tough opponents like that now. Both full backs - dire. Neither cd cross the road and Jenkinson has the positional nous of a sunday leaguer. BFG and Kos - both sound games but fear for them if City really attack them, esp if those two full backs get games. Scezney - excellent game - hes the reason Everton didn't win it. Ramsey - shackled by 'pressing' opponents but an OK game. Overall - just about merited a draw but if i was Martinez id be dissapointed. A littl elore poise in and around the box and that game was theirs to win. Everton overall the better side. Wenger - your subbing was hopeless. Cazorla and Wilshere should have not seen any of the 2nd half after both being so abysmal in the 1st.

  17. jeff wright

    Dec 08, 2013, 21:02 #42592

    Westie, nothing bizarre about Everton not scoring from their possession and chances in the first half -they were just not good enough to take their chances. Don't count on City not taking their ones though. I had that Titanic feeling at half-time when Merson on Sky said we would win now after Everton had failed to capitalize on outplaying us. They would fade inthe second period advised Merse - the guy really should give up gambling and punditry - he's useless at both. Agree with your points about spuds though ! What odds are we now for the title and I mean in the real world ,not AKB LAND.

  18. Westlower

    Dec 08, 2013, 20:53 #42591

    Finsbury Joe, In PL match betting between Spurs & Arsenal, the bookies rate AFC at 1/50 & Spurs a 5/1 shot. Says it all.

  19. jeff wright

    Dec 08, 2013, 20:44 #42590

    It was a 1 point gained for Martinez and 2 points dropped by Arsene. Any efforts to suggest otherwise just look rather silly. City are difficult to beat at home a point there would have been a good one had we won today. Chelsea have Palace at home and I expect them to win that game and so will our players and Wenger . Our game against them now looks even more important. Arsene has to beat City , the form home side , then Mourinho, whom he has never won a game against to stay top of the league at Xmas . I'm not confident of this unlikely scenario unfolding after we couldn't hold on to a 1-0 goal lead at home with a few minutes to go against Everton. They again scored a late goal, as they did midweek against United. It's not as though we were not aware of that , again though Wenger proved himself to be tactically inept with his usual 69th minute or so substitutions that didn't work .He need to sign another striker and a centre back . Flam made no difference and is another who is being well overrated - perhaps he should try wearing shirts with long sleeves . He can't even get into the worst French squad in years . Also if Mertesaker gets crocked we would have Verm and Koss in the harness and they have never looked good playing together.

  20. Westlower

    Dec 08, 2013, 20:41 #42589

    Disappointing to lose the lead so late in the game but considering Everton have only lost one game this season we remain 7 points clear of them. Although Everton bossed possession in the first half it was bizaare that Szczesny didn't have to make a save & we could have led at half time. Statistically we were due to draw a home game as are Man C. Even if we lose to Man C we will still be 2 points clear of the pack. I feel our best starting eleven needs to include Walcott & Flamini. We look unbalanced playing Cazorla & Jack as wide men. Everton's full backs took advantage of not having a winger to mark. Maybe time to give Gnabry a chance on the wing, until Ox returns.

  21. maguiresbridge gooner

    Dec 08, 2013, 19:57 #42588

    jeff wright 45474, good shout, it's all we deserved alright that's if we deserved anything at all. Martinez said it was a fair result obviously he was only referring to the second half.

  22. dannyb

    Dec 08, 2013, 19:54 #42587

    we have just extended the lead at the top if we beat city then we are 9 points clear of them. this is a good point against a good form side today

  23. dannyb

    Dec 08, 2013, 19:42 #42586

    Who is carloza ive never heard of him

  24. jjetplane

    Dec 08, 2013, 18:41 #42585

    So a good many fans left after our goal assuming its in the bag. Hope you enjoyed looking at your phones pondering will it be an Indian or a Thai dish and a posh lager to wash it down. As they walked out it was Everton who went for it and possession wise should have probably won it. This match needed winning and Wenger has failed even when slinging on fresh faces. Soon as Martinez brought on his Barca boy you just knew what would happen. That is one massive corner we still have to turn.

  25. Finsbury Joe

    Dec 08, 2013, 18:36 #42584

    Poor performance and result, this team are going to drop like a stone once fixtures with the big boys bite.at the start of the season I predicted a sixth place finish and I stand by that. Unfortunately this team is also going out of the FA cup first go no way AVB will settle for anything else as his team start to gel. The winners this weekend are Spurs Liverpool and Everton

  26. jeff wright

    Dec 08, 2013, 18:02 #42583

    We could have nicked the game with Giroud's desperate last kick that struck in upright, but in truth a draw was all that we deserved. Everton looked more like title favs than us ,taking account of the fact that they had a harder midweek game at United and were playing away today. If anxious Arsene finishes the season pot-less again then after 9 years with out winning anything , an unprecedented record for a top club manager, then many will be saying that he's had a fair-crack of the whip and it's time for a change. We could do worse then look at this Martinez chap to replace him with. Sorry but I can't see any major improvement in results this season than for the last one.

  27. Danny

    Dec 08, 2013, 17:02 #42582

    we have been schooled by Everton. carloza and ozil , arteta are crap and slow the defence is keeping Arsenal in the game. i say Everton will win this, and will do what we do for the last 10yrs. TANK!!

  28. jeff wright

    Dec 08, 2013, 14:05 #42580

    I share the view the view that Wenger has been is own worse enemy in the past with his failed youth project and parsomonious ways impacting on results. His flaky character and nervousness before big games are a matter a record and indeed he has been at it again moaning about the early kick-off at City. There really are no excuses though for not putting in a real challenge for the league this season but as others have said Wenger is unlikely to buy anyone else that could significantly strengthen our squad to help turn this campaign into a winning one. We will need to hope that our rivals continue to falter while we maintain our better form. The added distraction of Europe with our thinner squad is not in our favour either. There is a good chance today though to keep the pressure on City and Chelsea with a win over Everton. We drew this game last season when needing to win it during a similar run of results that we have recently had . So a win is essential to show that we have indeed improved since last term .

  29. Westlower

    Dec 08, 2013, 12:30 #42579

    Ron is correct in saying they'll be no astute signings in Jan, unless we suffer long term injury's in a particular position. At best we'll get in a loan deal to cover an injury problem. With Pod, Ox & Diaby to come back where are we going to put these astute new signings? Players need to be match fit to perform at their best and sitting on the bench doesn't cut it. Some under estimate the role that Gnabry can play. In every Championship winning team an unsung hero emerges and he could easily be ours. Only players currently out of favour with their current club will seek a move in Jan. Do we want to rock the boat by signing rejected players carrying their own personal baggage. In my opinion we currently have our most talented squad for many a year, so leave well alone!

  30. Bard

    Dec 08, 2013, 12:03 #42578

    Good piece. 'astute signings' now thats an interesting phrase. This is where the realists on this site part company with the dreamers. As Ron has said there are unlikely to be any 'astute signings' , cheap maybe but not astute. Wenger doesnt like to spend money unless he has to. This makes the possibility of winning the PL possible but unlikely whereas if we could be sure he would invest as Chelsea and others will undoubtedly do I would say we look a really good bet to win it. I'm enjoying the ride, for what its worth my opinion is that it will sadly be another magnificent failure, brought about by Wenger's parsimony and lack of real ambition.

  31. Ron

    Dec 08, 2013, 11:25 #42577

    An interesting post TFG. It appears though to have a tinge about it in that youre struggling to convince yourself that things have changed. Dont try so hard. Speaking as one who until the start of last Season, hasnt missed many of the big away games (in particular)or the home ones for many years, its not hard to say that Wengers teams since 06 at least HAVE had inferiority complexes v some opponents and not just the bigger Clubs. Regular away day fans will tell you that it became a fine but easy art to assess the body language of our teams at places like City Utd Stoke Bolton Liverpool, Everton(to a lesser extent) as soon as they took to the field, to predict a result. We re rarely been wrong. It applied at Utd in particular and once more it was seen a few weeks back as they wimpered to a poor loss, to add to the litany of others over the last 6-7 years. You can say it was young player inferiority if you want to, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Project youth really didn't last much beyond 2007/08. No it was a case of teams who were riven by their own coach's gripes and hang ups about other Clubs styles of football, ref paranoia, the other teams coach paranoia, fixture paranoia and pitch paranoia plus a large smattering of players being indulged who lacked fight, guts and fortitude. Your point about the team now showing 'shoulder to shoulder fight' etc etc makes it seem as if thats an optional extra that been bolted on! Well, for me, its an essential and comes before flicks, back heels, feints and goals having to be scored using no less than 30 passes as a precursor to the ball being walked in! Arsenal have lacked that quality even from and during the invincibles period in truth. Youve also fallen into the cycle of hitting out at pundits. Are they so wrong? Most of them are only saying what we fans have been saying for years. Lastly, dream on. We're not spending money on 'astute additions' in January any more than im going to conquer Everest that month. Enjoy the moment while were here but dont labour with trying to see if anythings changed markedly. There are peripheral changes of that im sure. Some of the players do appear to have more fight than before and the fact its not been there for so many years is a disgrace and a reflection on the managers flaky psyche. There is a fair chance the title can be won, provided only that Man City remain enigmatic and also dependent upon the return of that pompous preening prick to Chelsea proving to be a flawed delusionary experiment. Make no mistake, Wengers the same Coach and the squad is just as paper thin as ever and we still carry players who lack bottle big time. Our best allies are Utds malaise, that i feel would have occured under Ferguson anyway, Mourinho's star having seriously waned ( only a waned star ends up at a tin pot club like Chelsea after effectively being forced from RM with no other Clubs being remotely interested in him)and City s issues of bedding players in under a new Coach continuing. If we perform in December and stay top, then maybe there will be a few answers to the Arsenal conundrum. Lets see shall we.

  32. Westlower

    Dec 08, 2013, 10:14 #42576

    TFG, Good summary where we're at right now with one of the pivotal weeks approaching. The New Year fixtures give AFC some respite in Jan but the difficult games come thick and fast from Feb 8th onward's. Conversely, the last five games of the season are very winnable. We need to target 90 points to be sure of being Champions which means we can only afford to drop 16 points from our remaining 24 fixtures. wam, whatever!

  33. wam

    Dec 08, 2013, 8:15 #42575

    Nice to read something that has been written by someone I feel has had an education.