Our Cup Runneth Over

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Our Cup Runneth Over


The feeling before this cup tie was that, with key players either injured or rested, a full-strength Spurs line up could make for an unpleasant afternoon. We needn’t have worried. Tim Sherwood fielded a 4-4-2 formation that had proved successful at Southampton and Old Trafford, but found themselves over-run in midfield. In this light, the selection of teenager Nabil Bentaleb for the visitors was certainly a leap of faith.

Spurs did manage to fashion a very decent chance when Eriksen fired at the keeper with the score at 0-0 thanks to a poor Koscielny interception, but for the most part, were dominated by a far more switched on Arsenal line-up. The selection of Theo Walcott as the lone striker worked to an extent – until the number 14 was asked to put the ball in the net, but the opportunities he was afforded demonstrated that there is an alternative to the Giroud/Bendtner type forward. However, Walcott’s finishing is a concern. It does not look like a problem the manager will have to think about for a while as he was stretchered off injured, taking the opportunity to remind the Spurs fans unable to see the score on the far video screen what the score was. All in the name of public service. One imagines he was getting plenty of abuse whilst lying prone on the turf to do that.

By that time, the game looked safe, even though it reduced Arsenal to ten men. Nowadays, a two goal lead is not something that triggers anxiety in the defence and the crowd. We all remember the 4-2 that became a 4-4 in Harry Redknapp’s first game as Tottenham boss in the same stadium. Whether it is because of Steve Bould or a different set of players, the Gunners seem less brittle five years on.

The first goal was a beautifully executed finish by Cazorla after the impressive Serge Gnabry had set the chance up on a plate. To a man, Arsenal played excellently, although most people’s man of the match was Tomas Rosicky. He robbed Danny Rose for the Gunners’ second, and the moment he finished put me in mind of another Thomas goal – Mickey’s at Anfield in 1989. Bearing down on goal with a defender chasing him, and you just hoping he could get his shot away before the ball is taken from him. Rosicky’s displays this season have been a reminder of what could have been when the player joined the club long ago in 2006. We have so rarely seen the best of him.

It was an authoritative performance that augurs well for the immediate matches to come. Arsenal made light of a potentially difficult encounter. It was a combination of their own superior ability and the opposition’s poor display, an indication that even with a new manager, Spurs’ old habit of inconsistency remains. One imagines Tim Sherwood’s plan was simply to take the game to Arsenal and have them on the back foot with two forwards, but the home side won their duels and intercepted most of their attempts to work the ball forward. Perhaps the problem with too many new players is they don’t get the significance of the derby to their fans and fail to raise their level appropriately. This observer did believe that Sherwood was going to pump up his troops and get them playing out of their skin for this game, but perhaps the effort of taking 10 points out of 12 over the Christmas period has taken too much out of them. Arsenal achieved a similar points tally, but looked fresher. The ability to rotate in midfield without weakening the side could be a factor in this.

Progress in the FA Cup may be seen as a distraction by the manager. Certainly, we will always see weakened sides start games in this competition, and that has been the case even going back to the days when the club were winning it regularly. However, psychologically, defeats have had a knock on effect in the past, with the wheels coming off promising seasons after a poor display in the competition and an exit leaving them to supposedly concentrate on more significant prizes.

As for the striker issue, the manager knows what the situation with Giroud, Bendtner and Walcott’s likely time of return. If he was going to buy a forward in the current transfer window, now would seem the optimum time rather than waiting until the end of January. However, if it does happen, one suspects it will be at the end of the month, if at all. In the meantime, the feeling about the team is positive due to the four wins out of four since Christmas Day. Let us hope this consistency continues for a lengthy spell and the goals keep coming when it matters.

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  1. BADARSE

    Jan 07, 2014, 7:51 #43804

    chris and Amos, two of my favourite posters-my type of posters. Without people like these I would have gone from here a long time ago.

  2. kerrymangooner

    Jan 06, 2014, 22:29 #43802

    Great performance. Lets try to win this cup. Injuries mounting in the striker division. Wenger needs to get active in the market. By the way did anyone see on ITV Monreal and Casorla cavorting with opposition players in the tunnell before kick off. I hate that, even though I admit both played very well.

  3. Robert Mugabe

    Jan 06, 2014, 20:35 #43795

    @Chris. It's all about land grabbing and fraud my man. Democracy is so last century.

  4. Chris

    Jan 06, 2014, 16:39 #43778

    Tony Blair - I give my own opinion from my own authority and don't need anyone else's endorsement for that.

  5. Tony Blair

    Jan 06, 2014, 16:13 #43776

    @Chris. Who made you Judge and Jury?

  6. Chris

    Jan 06, 2014, 15:40 #43772

    FrankButcher / LittleDutch (if I need to address you both) - Amos' views are as good as anyone's and better informed and reasoned than many. I think your own posts are far more worthy of rebuke than his so why don't you (two) pipe down and wind your neck(s) in?

  7. LittleDutch

    Jan 06, 2014, 15:09 #43770

    @Amos. Calm down mate. I agree with Frank on this one. You're a ****.

  8. Amos

    Jan 06, 2014, 7:08 #43748

    @FrankButcher. Get in line with you Frank? Nah. Looking at those you're standing with I don't think I'll bother. There's much better company to be had with those who have views worth exchanging.

  9. FrankButcher

    Jan 06, 2014, 0:48 #43747

    @Amos. Put a sock in it. You're a jumped up numpty drunk on Wenger's arse fumes. Pipe down and get in line.

  10. Green Hut

    Jan 06, 2014, 0:07 #43746

    A Premier League title on your honours list is of value over a very, very long period- forever in fact. Unless you work for Deloitte.

  11. Roy

    Jan 05, 2014, 23:11 #43744

    I'll keep this brief. Sp*ds - you really are a load of classless b******s, aren't you ?

  12. Amos

    Jan 05, 2014, 23:08 #43743

    @jeff wright. I agree that it took Henry a while to settle in though he did manage 26 goals in his first season. The fact that it took a while for Henry to settle should prevent us getting too precious about whether we sign another striker in this window or not - unless he is of value over a longer period. As for taking points it's a good idea to take them off as many teams as you can and hope you gather more than anyone else. At the same time it doesn't matter who others drop points too as long as they drop more than we do.

  13. Ron

    Jan 05, 2014, 22:52 #43742

    Chris - Im not sure id trust that Benteke guy anyway. Villa fan mate of mine says hes ****e but mainly due to his own choosing as he and others sees it ie forcing the move to what he hopes will be a big move. Hes another Adebayor in my view. Good on counting his money, not so hot on the pitch. Ive said this, now watch him bag a brace when we re there in a few days time now mate!

  14. jeff wright

    Jan 05, 2014, 22:40 #43741

    Amos, my comment about replacing RVP was a joke ,that's why I added one of these on these (!) on the end. It did take awhile for Henry to bed in though after he was signed and Wenger doesn't have time on his side now days as he did back then. 8 years without a trophy is plenty long enough for any one . I thought it was earlier than 2009 that United won the league without beating a top 4 opponent, it must have been another Ferguson miracle job to go along with his treble and other freak results. It doesn't change my view though that it helps if you beat other top 4 rivals and that no team can win the title this season without taking points off rivals with the table being so tight.

  15. Chris

    Jan 05, 2014, 22:38 #43740

    SGRB - I don't think I've seen anyone on here who does not think we should have bought a striker in the summer and who would therefore not like to see one brought in now. If we don't win the title because the goals dry up, it will be because we didn't buy one in the summer more than in this window, because options are so limited now. I doubt a Defoe (Spuds reject) or a Benteke (who has been pants this season)would necessarily make much of a difference either, even if we could get them. And they would be quite expensive once you add in wages over their contract etc. The squad space argument isn't a non-starter at all - if a stop gap is brought in that's one less space for a top class player next season irrespective of what Bendter (who is not that much of a joke) does.

  16. Ron

    Jan 05, 2014, 22:16 #43739

    On the debate about whether we ll buy or not this window, there is clearly the question of who's out there to buy or even to loan who can be an effective 'hit'. I dont think theres anyone coming in but not because of either of those reasons. Its more the question of whether Wenger is going or staying that shapes the answer. If hes going, he wont buy. At best he ll get a loan job in who he thinks can make a difference. If hes staying, he still might not buy, preferring instead to wait for quality in the Summer, which may or may not sabotage this season. He' ll risk that and wont have any reservations about doing so as its been done before hasnt it. AW wont hamstring a new Coach (if he knows he's going)by imposing an expensive player on him who said new coach might not want or like. I say this on the basis that AW will become a director of Dein type hands on involvment and wont want to act rashly and spend funds that a new guy would want. If nothing else AW is responsible and prudent. Inn the light of all this, AW can surely see us as a stick on for 3rd. That means improvement has occurred and on this season so far, who can argue. Maybe, hes going for the FAC too as an added sweetener. Its his contract situ thats the determining factor guys in my view and this is eneveloped by the view that what we have is sufficient to get 3rd spot and maybe the Cup. The thing is, AW may well be right. He must surely see City as too strong in the longer term come seasons end.Its not hard to see that. Possibly, even runners up spot is available to us too. Even greater improvement. Chelsea arent brilliant and have their own striker issues dont forget. Thats not hard to see either. Theres a win win situ developing here for Arsene with no added players provided the title is considered not reachable.

  17. Amos

    Jan 05, 2014, 22:06 #43738

    @jeff wright. I'm not the one claiming that only my interpretation of Arteta's comments can be correct, simply that interpretations other than those in the tabloid press, which you seem determined to accept at face value, exist. The season that I referred to in which ManU took the title despite, only one win against the other teams in the top four was 2008-2009 when, as now, there were 4 CL places up for grabs. Of course I didn't claim that we can win the title picking up only 5 points against the other teams in the four. I think it will very tight this year - but then it was fairly tight at the same stage in 08-09 so even if it seems improbable it's not impossible. I'm not sure I fully understand how your point, that in order to have successfully replaced someone they must replace someone who was won something with us, can be consistent with your point about replacing RvP now. On your logic he doesn't need replacing.

  18. Bard

    Jan 05, 2014, 21:48 #43737

    James'. Badarse you're probably right. We won't buy anyone this window. That will be less a reflection of our finances but of our ambition. This crap about value for money ignores the fact that our parsimony is a myth. We have wasted millions on rubbish . The list is endless. Buying a 50m striker + wages is not going to bankrupt the club. If we don't buy it will be a defining statement about where the club are going and it will have huge repercussions for the future of the club.

  19. BADARSE

    Jan 05, 2014, 21:17 #43736

    Alsace and Ron my post was a little flippant, sorry guys. It wasn't a dismissal, I too have some ugly memories of their home. Funny to think that ON the first occasion I witnessed the outrageous behaviour it would have been from men now old age pensioners. The oddest thing in life is that some situations seem to be around the corner of most people's vision, particularly the authorities. Then by widening the subject it is true of world circumstances. Cosmetic approach to appease the silent majority, like the Express or Lying Mail readerships, just to win votes, whilst sitting on their hands with real matters. These of course would require grass roots changes, investment and commitment, only have a partial success rate and win no votes. Why do that when it's only the plebs who are going to suffer at the hands of other plebs? Was at that Man U European Cup Final in 1968. Eusebio, had a run at goal as I remember at 1-1, and rather than look for an ordinary attempt opted for a spectacular blast. Now he had a fearsome shot but you always give more of an advantage to a shot-stopper and Stepney was that, so saved what could have been a 2-1 lead. Mind Man U often get good fortune in finals, bar the two against us! He was a true sportsman though, definitely second only to Pele in his era and both would also have despised WHL.

  20. Stroud Green Road Boy

    Jan 05, 2014, 21:03 #43735

    We don't have a world class striker at the club. We have one effective striker who isn't a clinical finisher, and then we have Bendtner, who is a joke, and Walcott and Podolski, who aren't strikers, and Sanogo, who does not appear to be an option at all. Therefore a world class striker requiring a world class transfer fee is not required to improve the situation. 'Squad space' is also a non-starter as an excuse, players like Bendtner are going to leave in the summer anyway. To me all the 'it's too difficult / we don't need someone to come in' type comments look like the apologists (or 'those who see the bigger picture' as they view themselves) getting their excuses in early. If what we all fear happening comes to pass - Wenger brings in no one, the goals dry up and the team fall away - the apologists will tell us in May it was nothing to do with failing to invest in January; it will be due to bent refs, bad luck with injuries, scheduling and the fans becoming less positive. Besides which, they'll go on, it would have been 'chasing rainbows' to have attempted to go toe to toe with Man C and Chelsea, and those unspent resources mean the club is now in a better position to be successful going forward. In short, the never ending 'jam tomorrow' perspective.

  21. jeff wright

    Jan 05, 2014, 20:46 #43734

    Amos, I was not aware that your interpretation of Arteta's comments were the only correct ones,I apologize unreservedly for that error !!"!! The season that United won the league when not taking points from their top rivals is another red herring,there was only one CL place in those days ,now there are 4 . So the competition for those places is more intense. This has devalued domestic cup comps that sides ,who could see that the league title was beyond them, concentrated more on than they do now. This season it's even harder in the league with United faltering and 4th place on for sides like Everton and Liverpool - and if you think that we can only win just 2 points off our top 4 opponents as we did last season and still win the league then you are deluding yourself. Mourinho is right to point out that you not only get 3 points if you beat a top 4 rival,but you also crucially deprive them of 3 points. As we saw over Xmas with Liverpool suddenly moving up the table very quickly from 5th spot ,7 points behind us, to first on GD , and then back dropping back after a couple of defeats the 3 points we took off them kiucked in then they dropped points against City and Chelsea who are now both ahead of Liverpool.The the league is very tight at the top and will in my view stay that way until May. Points won from other top 4 opponents will be very important come May . We went 4 years after the 98 double season without winning a trophy Amos,Le sulk was sold in 99 ,so seeing that he played a big part in us doing the double i stick with my views that it took 4 years to replace him .

  22. Amos

    Jan 05, 2014, 20:35 #43733

    @jeff wright. Did it take 4 years to replace Le Sulk? Not if Anelka was Le Sulk it didn't. Henry was bought in the same transfer window as Anelka was sold.

  23. jeff wright

    Jan 05, 2014, 20:13 #43732

    Yep that's him Ron.I recall going to a cup game one night at Filbert St we went up on a coach to Leicester it was a cold night and a miserable journey back after we got turned over by the Foxes after Suker missedsome sitters ,O'Neil was the manager at Leicester at the time . James,Only Anelka and Persie were top class out of those players and Wenger sold both of em! It took him 4 years to find a replacement for le sulk ,blimey Wenger will be near 70 if it takes him that long again to find a replacement for RVP!

  24. Amos

    Jan 05, 2014, 20:06 #43731

    @jeff wright. The interpretation of Arteta's comments by the popular press is at odds with what was said by there's very little new in that. His point was a direct comparison of our striking resources with that of City. Of course he would like to see us with more resources - so do I and most other supporters I imagine - but he isn't making a demand for us to sign another striker if you put everything that he said in its proper context. It doesn't matter where you get the points from. ManU won the title not too long ago despite winning only once and losing three of their games against the other teams making up the top four. Similarly it doesn;t matter whether one player scores all your goals or the whole team does. It only matters that you score enough to win the game.

  25. jeff wright

    Jan 05, 2014, 19:57 #43730

    Amos, you are going off at a tangent regarding Arteta's views on cash fuelled City. The point Arteta made was that our strikers do not take enough of the chances that we create,and he implies that although Ozil has added some zip to our play that this is not being made best use of. Your interpretation of what Arteta said is at odds with what others see his comments as meaning. Regarding us winning more points last season than the one previous one ,well that is a bit of a red herring really because we finished 3rd in that previous season with RVP up front -and due to his goals we did better against United,City,Chelsea than we last term without him. We helped knock Chelsea out of the top 4 that term with RVP up front and on fire by taking 4 points from them. 3rd place is better than 4th ,even if you don't win as many points getting that position.Points tallies vary from season to season it's winning points from your main rivals that counts ,even Maureen commented on that before the game with us at Xmas. Anyway,last season we only won 2 points from 18 against the top 3 sides and that was the reason why we finished in 4th place behind them. You can argue with many things but facts are not one of them!

  26. James

    Jan 05, 2014, 19:51 #43729

    Or as well as Henry we could list RVP, Anelka, Kanu, Wiltord or Giroud.

  27. Ron

    Jan 05, 2014, 19:47 #43728

    Jeff - Do you mean Davor Suker mate? Yes, he was a bit of a wet lettuce wasn't he. Past it really by the time he arrived at N5.

  28. It is investing not spending

    Jan 05, 2014, 19:42 #43727

    Theo is not a star. he has no natural instinct for the game or passion. he has to be pushed and trained very hard behind the scenes. he is a too nice southampton boy and has zero killer instinct. Arsenal have a great opportunity this season of the league and a good cup run but they must go out and invest in 2 more players

  29. Ron

    Jan 05, 2014, 19:29 #43726

    Hi lads. BADARSE - Nil feeling towards the Club but love to see them humiliated. For me, we have one genuine rival. Its them!If they were playing non league and we drew them in the Cup, i'd want a full strength picked and to see them defeated 25 - 0. Its actually well known that for decades the Clubs ie Arsenal and Tottenham at the highest levels get on really well and i know that there are many joint community ventures created. Been like that since the 60s to my knowledge. Ive always said too that Tottenham aspire to play football the right way. Its rarely a rough house match v them. In fact i love the way they allow us to play and never learn that they shdt do it, so we can thrash them more often than not. It offends their delusion that they can take us on at football to even contemplate playing a tight game, the mugs. Even in the mid 60s when we were garbage and they had their only 3 years or so as North Londons top dog, they lost as many of the derbys as they won! Its the fans. Not all of them, but a high proportion of them. Social risks!ive described (above) a typical NLD home defeat day at WHL but it happens v other Clubs as well. I know that. I still do quite a few away fixtures and that hole is the worst fixture by far. I had the dubious pleasure of being amnogst them at the 1987 FAC Final when Coventry tanned their sad arses. The spuds arrogance that day was astonishing, esp as Cov had slaughtered them at the old Highfield road about 4-0 a few weeks earlier.Some of the spuds were forcasting record Final day scores, 6,7,8 to Nil etc etc. Wonderful! Ive had a soft for Coventry ever since.Its as Alsace says, as a Club theyve never been brought to book. Im sure their media friends (of which they have many for some misguided reason), have assisted there by never covering it fully. PS Eusebio mate. A true great. Vison, power, nous, skill, balance and technique plus a venomous shot. 2nd to Pele only in his day i suggest matey? A wonderful sportsman with humility too. That night in 1968 when i was a committed Benfica fan,watching the TV in black and white, dearly hoping Benfica would snatch a winner v Man Utd is well recalled, when he stopped, cheered and clapped Alex Stepney for making a great save to prevent the defeat.

  30. jeff wright

    Jan 05, 2014, 19:25 #43725

    James, do you mean players like Julio Baptista, Gervinho , Sanago and others that Wenger signed ? Henry was his best striker,but he was a winger when Wenger signed him and converted him into a striker. He got lucky. Wenger's record in signing strikers going way back is not that great ,Jefferson was a big costly flop ... then there was that east european one his name escapes me who was signed on the strength of having scored the most goals in Euro something or other ... still as they say in Hollywood why let the truth stand in the way of a good story ...

  31. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jan 05, 2014, 19:25 #43724

    Westlower, good one, and FJ seems to have lost one of those abilities all of a sudden i wonder why. No doubt when he gets over this latest stuffing (he should be used to them by now)he'll be back.

  32. Amos

    Jan 05, 2014, 19:25 #43723

    @jeff wright. I'm sure all the players have their own ideas as to what Wenger should do. It doesn't necessarily follow that their ideas are as good as Wengers though. I don't for one moment imagine that Arteta seriously believed that we should try to buy all the strikers that City have bought. He was just making a general point about the riches that a Mansour fuelled City have. We did sell our top striker (having sold our previous top striker Adebayor to City) to ManU who are now languishing 11 points behind us. Interesting to note that last season we scored more goals in the PL and earned more points even though we had sold our top striker so maybe there's a little more to the game than the the ubiquitous '20/30 goal a season striker' who along with the 'no-nonsense defender' and the 'ball winning midfield destroyer' invariably feature on many fans wish lists.

  33. jeff wright

    Jan 05, 2014, 19:04 #43722

    A good summary there Ron of the low-life at the lane . I suspect that this season ther odious antics and the hate- filled atmosphere at s.h.i..e.hart lane will be even worse! Amos, Arteta can't ,for obvious reasons, come out and tell Wenger ,a man who doesn't welcome anyone telling him anything, what he should do. So he was forced to choose his words carefully. However if our strikers are taking more of the chances that they are presented with( Walcott missed 4 yesterday that against a better side could have proven costly) then Arteta would not have to point out that they not doing so. As for his point that City have 3 world class players ,well surely he must be implying that we are coming up short by not having any world class ones. We did have one once but Arsene sold him to United.

  34. BADARSE

    Jan 05, 2014, 19:02 #43721

    Bard my post wasn't a cheap shot at you, I have heard wailings for a world class striker for ages-in fact since we didn't buy one in the summer. My clumsy point is this, I want the best chance for my club to win the title, but my head does the shuffling routine and discards options that I think are unrealistic for various reasons to achieve that end. I am left with a likely scenario upon which I settle as an obvious and likely conclusion. I think we may buy that vaunted striker in the summer, I don't think it will happen this month. I may be pleasantly surprised, or not. That holds true for the summer too. £50 million and a four and a half/five year contract at £150k per week is around another £40 million. A big investment and one WE! have to get right, and I mean we. I don't want any foolhardy and reckless spending. I want it to be well-thought out and a sensible purchase. Bottom line is neither of us can influence much in any way, ergo my relaxed approach to the situation, I guess.

  35. Alsace Lorraine de Totteridge

    Jan 05, 2014, 19:00 #43720

    Ron is talking about something disgusting which is allowed to go on year in year out. It isn't that he dislikes the club, he dislikes violence meted out to people who just want to watch a game of football. Violence cloaked in cowardice and inaction by the authorities. You can see from various interviews and comments that they make that the players thoroughly despise these opponents, and it isn't because of a threat which they personally face on the pitch. If an east european crowd abuse our players, our authorities quite rightly blow a gasket. If our North London " Neighbours" start throwing missiles, then it would appear to be "part and parcel" of the game. It's time we stopped tolerating their behaviour and made a stink. Isn't there a planning permission that they need?

  36. James

    Jan 05, 2014, 18:51 #43719

    Wenger's so right when he says if a striker comes in he must be top quality. Players can stand out at smaller clubs and look world class, but playing for Arsenal is a different ball game and Wenger knows it. Signing someone like Defoe would be laughable, a player who only starts against minnow teams and looks out of his depth against anybody half decent for Spuds and England. I would be very surprised if Wenger signed anybody in January unless a real worldie in the same bracket as Ozil came along otherwise it's a waste of time and only appeases the fans brainwashed by the media.

  37. BADARSE

    Jan 05, 2014, 18:49 #43718

    Ron, have I got this right, you don't like Tottenham Hotspurs? By the way fella, Eusebio has just died.

  38. Bard

    Jan 05, 2014, 18:49 #43717

    Badarse; I wont insult your intelligence but to take an argument to its illogical end is slightly cheap. Im not suggesting we pay Balelike sums for a striker in pursuit of glory. What Im suggesting is that there is an opportunity to shift the club from what for the last decade has been perennial also rans to contenders. Its about ambition. The club need to show some balls, All this rubbish about assessing the options is rubbish. A top striker costs 40-50m either now or next summer. As a slight aside I could suggest an alternative argument we have pissed shedloads of money down the drain on safe buys why not piss it down the drain on one striker !

  39. Westlower

    Jan 05, 2014, 18:47 #43716

    Jeff, Did Confucius give you the birds phone number?

  40. Ron

    Jan 05, 2014, 18:42 #43715

    Hi Jeff - Derby s at the Lane provoke the strangest mindsets dont they. On one hand, after going, i always say ill never go again, but almost invariably i do and just hope im not near the division line between their trolls and our section. i say this as the plegm and spittle that flies over becomes tiresome after the first 3 times its experienced, especially as the stewards theyve got stand there like gormless lemons and laugh. Set this though against watching the wonderful haste of heads bowed spuds as their fire drills start, after theyve vented their vile troll spleens v their own players when theyre turned over, which in turn means though that then you can endure watching the shop keepers hastily draw down the shutters on the shops up that filthy High Road. If theyre quick enough, they avoid their stalls being smashed to pieces. Meanwhile, emerging from that pitiful away end i always feel the insecurity as i emerge, knowing that the Police love to give them enough room to spit again and lob a few missiles as they crawl like contagious vermin along past the away end exits staring and snarling and the language rarely contains less than 3 'c--t' expletives in every 4 word brainless phrase theyve created. The contorted faces of the spuds and spuddites (yes, even older women and minors!)displays an evil and sombre picture, of swathes of trolls with mental illness issues. If it wasnt so dangerous it would be pitiful. Add to this the oft seen instances of about 5-6 trolls setting about the odd 14-16 year old Gooner whos crime is to wear a red and white scarf or shirt, but then whats a good kicking v a kid. He ll get over it!That ll teach him to follow another Club, esp the hated 'enemy' who are all scumbags and 'c---s' after all. That 'enjoyable' walk up that High Road where you ll see no Police until you get to Seven Sisters steps and then theyre usually standing there watching the fights and child bullying, probably talking about 'over time tonight'.Yes, a day at a WHL derby certainly opens the eyes these days. At least back in the day it was only knives and pieces of 3 by 2 held and used by the gangs. Nowadays its more a collective hatred that pervades the whole stadium. Im never quite sure which is worse. Ive always said that the place would make a good landfill site. The area wdt be damaged and if it was filled in while the spuds are all in it, society would be a far better place to a great extent. It would be lovely to drive the first bulldozer through the front doors of the damn place!

  41. Amos

    Jan 05, 2014, 18:39 #43714

    @jeff wright. I suppose you can clearly imply something but an implication still remains open to interpretation which is what makes it unclear and therefore only an implication. What Arteta doesn't say is that we need to sign a new striker but he does imply that we can't afford injuries to those we have. What he did say without implication is that we need a player like Bendtner. How would Wenger know that a pursuit of Suarez would prove futile unless he tried to sign him? You can't have it both ways surely?

  42. BADARSE

    Jan 05, 2014, 18:32 #43713

    Well we are determined aren't we lads? Determined that we need a new striker now and to hell with the cost. Don't worry who realistically is available, just chuck banknotes at the problem, chuck enough and we can get anyone! Really? Ignore the length of contract, the settling in period, the disharmony that may be created? Oh, I get it, do whatever we can to create our own RvP. As I have suggested innumerable times it is very unlikely to happen. Be realistic. Unless Arsene has an inside berth with a known, trusted and long term player in his sights it will possibly be at best a half season loan. Giroud is fit and playing well. Walcott and Podolski can do a temporary job, perhaps a longer one. Bendtner will return hopefully before the month is out, and despite the criticism can operate as well as needed if we are just looking for cover. I also, as previously stated, believe we could operate without a recognised striker with just a hornet's nest of buzzing midfield men. Some who clearly know where the goal is. I must be in a very small minority but I feel quite relaxed with what we have, and look forward to being perhaps surprised, but possibly not. The summer is a different time...Ron, westlower and Seven Kings Gooner can take our thermals off!

  43. Westlower

    Jan 05, 2014, 18:28 #43712

    Maybe RVP will jump the sinking Man U ship and rejoin the league leaders. As he's injury prone we may get him on the cheap??

  44. jeff wright

    Jan 05, 2014, 18:25 #43711

    Westie,Confucius also say, one bird in a bed is worth two on a promise.

  45. Bard

    Jan 05, 2014, 18:10 #43710

    Chris; Not quite sure I was suggesting there was a supermarket out there. What I am suggesting is that we are more aggressive and less cautious. Its my belief that we can make a serious challenge this season but we need to speculate. If we were prepared to pay 40m+1p for Suarez then we are in the market for a 40m striker full stop. so lets go out and buy one. The club have a vast array of scouts and have known we've needed a striker for months so they must have a list but what about Costa or Jackson Martinez, Benteke or Pato. fror starters. What I am saying is lets give it a go. Next season Untd, Chelsea and Citeh will be a lot stronger and we will still need striker. We will still have to pay 40m because thats what they cost. We need to seize the moment and stop this 'if only' mentality.

  46. jeff wright

    Jan 05, 2014, 18:06 #43709

    Amos,I have just read Arteta's comments again and he clearly implies that we need a top striker to convert more of the chances that we create. You are splitting hairs here. Chris there has been comments made for years regarding not paying over the odds for players by supporters trying to justify non-signings when they have clearly been required,everyone knows this,so I will rest my case. Wenger's dithering about over Higuian and futile pursuit of Suarez is the real reason why he finds himself relying on two players that he clearly want rid of - Bendy and Poldolski. He gave Bendy a 4 year deal on 50k and can't sell him he was forced to keep from going on loan to Palace after he discovered that he had signed another injury case player in Sanago and who probably not good enough anyway . The fact that Wenger is reluctant to play Poldolski, when he's fit, says it all really . He's like Bendy a last throw of the dice type or one to send on if a game is done and dusted with 15-minutes to go to allow Giroud a breather,but neither of the two are players that put in a 90minute shift - and in big games against top opponents we need players that do that.

  47. Westlower

    Jan 05, 2014, 17:53 #43708

    Maguiresbridge, I don't believe the spuds have a fanzine site, simply because the majority of the Neanderthals can't read or write, Finsbury Joe excepted! Jeff, Optimists with a positive mindset are more likely to win a chestful of medals than pessimists with a negative outlook - Confucius say!

  48. Amos

    Jan 05, 2014, 17:43 #43707

    @jeff wright. Arteta didn't actually say that we needed to sign another striker. He simply pointed out that we don't have the collection of strikers in Aguero, Negredo and Dzeko that City paid a total of £90m for. In fact Arteta maybe short changing them if he's ignoring Jovetic. As usual the headline writers have adapted what was really said to create their story. Nonetheless it's true that we don't have the striker options that City have and it's probably unlikely that we ever will. Incidentally Arshavin may have been in the team when we achieved 4th place after signing in January but the reality is that we would have made 4th place with an average points per game lower than we gained before he joined. Arshavin was a very costly error.

  49. jeff wright

    Jan 05, 2014, 17:41 #43706

    PW, I doubt that the cretin will be manager at the spuds next season. He is like a duff firework that started off with a flash and and a bang but will now fizz out in a puff of smoke without producing any wallop. Some of us warned about the odious spuds supporters when that love-in article was posted on here awhile back, claiming that Levy was shrewd , and the spuds were on the up. They always raise their game though when we drop in at their place - and anyone who thinks otherwise has never been to one at the lane.

  50. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jan 05, 2014, 17:26 #43705

    I think the caption or picture of the day from the TV company was when it flashed to the young gooner two or three years old up on his dads shoulders with his scarf on, going mental when Rosicky scored, awesome.

  51. PeterWain

    Jan 05, 2014, 17:20 #43704

    The comment from the scum's manager just shows what a loathsam pathetic creature they now employ. I will never forget how he tried to break PV4 leg when he played at Blackburn. I hope he serves all of his eighteen months and wins nothing becuase he is a destable human being well suited to managing that club.

  52. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jan 05, 2014, 16:57 #43703

    Does anybody know what their saying about us on the spud sites sorry site? I could never bring myself to find out myself i'd just feel unclean and have to take a shower afterwards. I'm sure it would be along the lines of still trying to reassure themselves they're as good as us even though they know they never have been or never will, maybe they're all down at the chicken coup forming a line all around the ground,bent down behind each other trying to get the tails out of each others legs. Or maybe they're back at the Emirates trying to get in to get their 10p 5p 2p coins, and lighters back. Just wondering.

  53. jeff wright

    Jan 05, 2014, 16:46 #43702

    Mike, did Chelsea have 3 world class strikers last season? Anyway,I was quoting Arteta, he is the one who said after the Cardiff game that we need to sign a top class striker in this window. But hey what does he know when we have experts on here who know more than that fool does. Money never sleeps and top players have been signed in January when enough of it was tossed about.Chelsea signed Torres in a January window. Ok that has not worked out as they expected because they have only won the Champions League and Europa Cup with him. As it happens Wenger has also signed top players in the January window,Reyes,who helped us do the unbeaten season and Arshavin who helped us get 4th place after he joined us. I thought we did win that Club Champ when it was called something else when GG was with us in Miami the match was an official FIFA endorsed one . Some of our previous history tends to get overlooked these days with the AKB desperately fighting a rear-guard action to defend Arsene's lack of success on the trophy front over the last 8 seasons. If medals were won for optimism though then then AKB's would have a chestful of them. One thing though that does puzzle me with the AKB's is why they worry so much about us spending money , who gives a monkey if we have to pay over top for a player anyway,after all Wenger spends enough on duds like Diaby and co every season.

  54. Chris

    Jan 05, 2014, 16:24 #43701

    Bard - who shall we go and buy from this imaginary supermarket where you can have any player you want, edven in the middle of the season, as long as you pay 'over the top' for them? And given how much decent strikers cost, exactly how much 'over the top' do you have to pay for them and who could we afford on that basis...? All smacks a little of fantasy land I'm afraid. As others have noted, player availability is not great this window and if we buy as stop gap, are we supposed to keep him in the squad next season or discard him? Hope I'm wrong but realistically I doubt we'll bring anyone in and that may be for the best, over all. The argument that we should do everything we can this season holds some merit but options must be balanced against the mid-term consequences.

  55. Mike

    Jan 05, 2014, 16:17 #43700

    @Jeff, got depressed at people rabbiting on about how other teams have three world class strikers -Chelsea have as well but they couldn't score an away goal between them last year. Will be interesting to see if a striker will be brought in but cant think of anybody decent willing to move at the moment - Club world championship - now there is a thought

  56. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jan 05, 2014, 15:43 #43699

    Indeed it does Kev, and long may it continue the spuds vanquished back to where they belong and always were, second class. A great result well done everybody the players manager, even bouldy for dispensing of his wooly hat for sending the spuds out of the cup with their tail between their legs how many times is that now?. A great all round display and for wenger to put yet another wannabe spud manager firmly in his place and who will no doubt end up like all the rest. Credit to Arsene for fielding a full strength side with the exception of the keeper obviously it's good to see he did take the FAC seriously and went for it, but i still can't help thinking he had no choice as it was the spuds but i guess we'll find out more in the next round at home to Coventry. A great goal by Cazorla to get us of the mark and settled down, and yes i agree an impressive display by Gnabry who done his reputation no harm. Rosicky then put them out of their misery with another good goal thanks to Danny rose tee hee,who hasn't done much since the one he got against us and the waiter way back, ain't payback a bitch. As for Walcott surely an intelligent footballer earning £100k plus a week should know how to stay onside and if it's a fact he's just too thick please bouldy teach him, and with better finishing from him we could have sent the spuds home with their tales firmly between their legs just like the other times. But Walcott was forgiven as when being carried off (as no doubt what was being shouted and spewed at him by the Neanderthals and couldn't be repeated on here) he showed real class by not being provoked by just smiling and showing them the score in no way being provocative. And as one of the lads on the Sunday supplement Andy Dunn i think it was said could the stretcher bearers not have shown common sense and brought him the other way longer i know but he wasn't exactly in pain, or even across the pitch. Lets hope those idiots at the FA show common sense. Thankfully going by what i'm hearing and reading the cavemen are the ones in trouble for throwing coins and lighters and rightly so. As i said in a post on Friday a result on Saturday would do wonders for moral not just for the players but the fans also, and set us up nicely and i think it's fair to say it has.

  57. Amos

    Jan 05, 2014, 15:28 #43698

    @SGRB If Defoe can't do a job for the spuds then I'm inclined to think he can't do a job for us either so unlikely to maximise our present chances as much as he might minimise future options. If anything spuds have more need of a goal scorer than we have. The problem with someone only in a team to score goals is that if he isn't scoring goals then we're playing with ten men. I don't think that works well in the modern game and certainly not our style of play. Defoe, like Berbatov, wouldn't get in ahead of any of Giroud, Bendtner, Poldi, Walcott or probably even Sanogo. That being the case even on loan until the end of the season (as though that were even possible)he would be a waste. Anymore than that and in a system which limits squad sizes he could take up a space better occupied by someone more useful over the longer term.

  58. DW Thomas

    Jan 05, 2014, 15:27 #43697

    Kevin, have to disagree, with only one thing. Rosicky typically gives us great performances especially when he starts, a true little Mozart as he usually looks to push us forwards, not sideways. I love the guy as he is older and much wiser than most of our team. Injury has been horrible to him but class is permanent as they say. One other thing about Walcott coming off. Do they find those,coin throwers and charge them? That seems ridiculous to have to put up with that as a player. Sure, loud shouts and vile chants are to be expected I guess, but all of it could be dealt with, just like bad tackles missed by refs, with video technology. Stamp out the idiots that forget their brains when they enter the stadium. All in all the team played well and I love that Adebayor did nothing. This team is slowly making believers out of cynics like me. Just buy the missing puzzle piece(s) Nd round out the team to insure a title. That's should be Wenger's NY resolution. Who knows, maybe even Diaby will contribute by seasons end!

  59. Bard

    Jan 05, 2014, 15:17 #43696

    Stroud Green; I'm right with you on this one. We desperately needed a striker in the summer but got caught with our pants down and we still need a striker Ozil or no Ozil. Whatever Theo's qualities consistency and fitness are not among them. I get the doubts about Berbatov but I dont share the enthusiasm for Bendy. I posted earlier why not pay over the top for a quality finisher. A top draw striker would transform the club and our position as serious contenders. One of the reasons we struggle to get top players in is because they know we never really try to win anything. I think the club owe it to us to really give it a go this time, but then I'm still a romantic despite the evidence.

  60. jjeplane

    Jan 05, 2014, 14:35 #43695

    Gaz You are right on that and young Mr Walcott done us proud with his mischief. Thought he had a good game but special mention to young Serge. That lad put in as good a performance as Ozil at times and glad to see Ozil himself getting in on upfield defensive duties. I was frankly amazed by the work rate of the team overall and the triangulars were always played with intent. Do not get to see Arsenal a great deal these days so sitting down and watching that was a truly great moment in our history. Also - as others have said. Well done Roy Keane for his astute observation on the common spud. Well - its Coventry next. Last time I went to Coventry we were humilated and I was ill. This time we can rest a couple and hopefully progress while Citeh have a replay. There was a great modern hunger at work on that pitch. More please! Morrrrrrreeee! HNYam to all de brethren ....,.

  61. Peter Hughes

    Jan 05, 2014, 14:28 #43694

    As soon as spurs started with 2 frontmen it was game over. Add Lennon out wide they were giving our midfield licence to take control.Others have learnt to try to stifle our midfield & deny us any space. Thought we would win but much more comfortable then expected. Rosicky has been unfortunate with injuries but started yesterday in the hole behind the forward. It is his favoured position where he made his name in Germany.He is in a purple patch at present & maybe we can get an Indian summer out of him. h at present

  62. Jeff wright

    Jan 05, 2014, 14:15 #43693

    Hey Mike, you left out us also winning the super-cup and world club one,why the negativity !

  63. BADARSE

    Jan 05, 2014, 14:06 #43692

    Hi westlower, my Dad was my mentor and the wisest man I ever knew. He had a weakness in his early years though, he was a bit of a gambler, usually cards. As kids often follow in footsteps or react and pull the other way, my brother and I never bet, I'll wager you didn't know that, ha ha. @ Gare K, just in case there is any misunderstanding I was supporting, and defending you against clots who would label you for a different view. With your posts I can say we would definitely be buddies in life outside this web. Incidentally when I listed our gifted midfield men I overlooked Jack!!! That is a bold statement to overlook a man of his playing stature. Could many other clubs overlook a player like him when listing their men? @ Amos very astute soundings regarding Theo. If the lad can continue developing by knowing when to make his moves, to refrain from trying to earn acceptance by scoring-bringing others around him into the game more frequently, then we have a wonderful, slightly different lone-striker role at our disposal. Hi Ron, you have made some telling posts today, well done chum.

  64. Westlower

    Jan 05, 2014, 13:40 #43691

    For as long as Giroud is regarded as our top striker I don't see AFC buying a new striker as cover. Between Bendtner, Podolski & Theo there is enough cover for any short term injury to Giroud. Should he pick up a long term injury in the next 3 weeks only then would AFC look to buy a new striker. The problem of course is no one in the UK is going to sell the league leaders a top player. An overseas player has limited appeal in the Jan window as the season will be over by the time they've acclimatised. If we exit both cup competitions by March then any burn out issues with Giroud disappear. See Ron's post 46572 for my feelings re Berbatov. I'm more concerned about Bayern Munich come sniffing for Gnabry in the next couple of years than replacing Giroud.

  65. Mike

    Jan 05, 2014, 13:28 #43689

    Arsenal for the double, make that the treble becuase we will win the champions league as well

  66. theopants superstar

    Jan 05, 2014, 13:20 #43688

    Always great to beat spurs. ALWAYS!!!

  67. Ron

    Jan 05, 2014, 12:56 #43687

    Hi Westie - Good comments matey. Quoting your odds etc doesn't bother most people my friend. They're quite revealing actually. Yes, Rocky had power that was often not recognized didn't he. Gnabry has a similar build for sure.

  68. Angelo

    Jan 05, 2014, 12:49 #43686

    "Progress in the FA Cup may be seen as a distraction by the manager. " Honestly - what was it exactly about the team or the manager yesterday that showed this to be remotely true? Is it always so necessary to find the negative in everything?

  69. Westlower

    Jan 05, 2014, 12:49 #43685

    What a great way to start 2014. The positives way outnumber the negatives. Never can a football club have had as many versatile talented midfielders. Shortly to be added to by Ox & Diaby. Gnabry has the necessary attributes to go all the way, his physique and skills so reminiscent of David Rocastle. He's sure to make an impact for the remainder of the season. Not too much was made of Spurs roughing up JW, doubtless they'll be armed & ready to ambush Jack at the Lane in March. No reason why we can't win the FA Cup but it's important we don't compromise our chances of winning the PL by picking up Cup replays. Should we need a replay in the 6th round the game falls between Spurs(A) & Chelsea(A). In time, the top clubs will force the abolition of cup replays. Good to read that AW will probably move upstairs to be the director of football in the next couple of years. It would be an act of gross stupidity if his football knowledge & experience wasn't retained for the future good of AFC. Ron, they'll be no more odds quoted as I don't want to be accused of tempting people to gamble. I've no wish to encourage others to take the financial risks that I do. Finsbury Joe, the world hasn't ended matey, it just feels like it. You'll start to recover by next weekend.

  70. Stroud Green Road Boy

    Jan 05, 2014, 12:44 #43684

    There is one very good justification for a 'hasty' buy - doing everything in our power to win the title this season. It won't guarantee it of course, but it's about maximising your chances of doing so. After 9 years, it's time to stop the 'jam tomorrow' argument and focus on the here and now. So, a short term option would be fine. Ron has pointed out Defoe a few times, and why not see if the Tottenham Chickens would peck at any offer made. Making a reasonable purchase now to maximise our chances of the title this season will not affect the club's ability to be competitive in years to come.

  71. Ron

    Jan 05, 2014, 12:41 #43683

    Amos - Thats a fair view re Theo. Essentially, he just lacks physical power in my view. To have it, an athlete doesnt need to be big ie 6 feet 2 and broad shouldered etc. Truly great players develop it and adjust to play without it through guile, nous and clever movement. Theo W doesnt have those facets to his game. Hes fast in pace but pedestrian in match play and thought so the guy will always have limitations. For me, this stops him from ever doing an all round No 9 job, which has changed so much in the modern game anyway. For me, he needs to always be deeper and playing off a stronger front man, such as Giroud,, as we have him, but with licence to roam wide. The difficulty comes in as he can play well to balls being fed through for him to run for using his pace. Hes a real enigma.Like you, i loved his gestures. Great stuff Theo. Those moaning about them ought to be glad they never saw Charlie George in his meanest baiting the fans mood. CG would have been on his feet if his leg was hanging off, on the hoardings fingering those spud delinquents and us fans were ready to pay the price outside the home teams ground as ever!!

  72. Tom

    Jan 05, 2014, 12:41 #43682

    Ron.'Tottenham Chickens'. I like that one. Their fans are very similar to the Chavs. They love throwing missiles and hurling abuse though up against a gang of Gooners they normally melt.

  73. John Gooner

    Jan 05, 2014, 12:38 #43681

    The Spurs scum showed their true character with their disgusting abuse of Theo yesterday and no more needs to be said about the missiles. I think that, while Theo was perhaps unlucky not to score, his presence in the team created the space for others to exploit. Playing in this style is much more entertaining and fluid than it is when we have the painfully slow Giroud upfront. Theo is constantly making runs in behind the defence (yes offside a lot) and the defenders hate it. A good defence will step up and catch him off 9 times out of 10, but 1 time he will get through and that is what creates the uncertainty; bad defences will half drop deep, half step up and will be destroyed. I for one like seeing Theo upfront, although I'd prefer Diego Costa.

  74. jeff wright

    Jan 05, 2014, 12:32 #43680

    Amos, what Theo showed us yesterday is that we do need a different option up front to Giroud . Bendtner is just a lesser version and Poldolski,when fit, is too slow to play the role that Walcott played yesterday. My concern with Theo is that he's injury prone and on the small side physically to play up front regularly . Ron makes some good points about Berbatov's attitude ,but these faults are also ones that have been levelled against Bendtner,and not without good reason.

  75. Gaz

    Jan 05, 2014, 12:22 #43679

    Can't remember enjoying a game as much as that for years! The players were up for it, the fans at the ground were up for it, and in my own living room we were all well up for it! I thought we were just great all over but a special mention to young Gnabry. He was simply superb and I really hope we see a lot more of him now. As for Theo theres sometimes a moment in a players career that turns you completely round in how you view him. Well I've never been his greatest fan but since his return he's been great and 'THAT' gesture yesterday endeared him to me in a way I never thought possible! Well played that man! Blimey, this season is certainly different in many ways and whilst I'll never quite forgive Wenger for the previous 8 years theres no doubting he appears-at least-to be doing things differently this season. And if he's willing to change I'm damn sure I can find it in me to big him up and back him once again. I kind of forget how much I loved and backed him during the years 1996-2008 and the best thing about this season is seeing him seeemingly return to those heady days when we really had a side to be feared. And after that mid season tribute I just hope he doesn't let me down!!! Come on Arsenal!!!

  76. Amos

    Jan 05, 2014, 12:17 #43678

    I'm not sure that finishing is much of a weakness in Theo's game. He usually gets his shots on target and is reasonably confident having a go with his weaker left side. He doesn't play as a target man in the Giroud mould, though neither did Henry, so the play around him has to adapt to the space he can create attracting defenders to him. Theo perhaps needs to learn that the role isn't always about sticking the ball in the back of the net himself and he should be more aware of this around him. But Theo through the middle is a perfectly viable option and the more he learns the subtleties and nuances of the role the more viable it can be. It won't work every time of course but neither will signing someone in a sparse transfer window, whether at the beginning or end of it, in the hope he'll hit the ground running. With Giroud due back for the next game, Podolski fit and Bendtner apparently only out for a month any eyes on the January transfer market should be for someone worth their place for the next 4 or 5 years not months. There seems little justification for a hasty buy.

  77. Ron

    Jan 05, 2014, 12:17 #43677

    Alsace - Morning. Theres much in a name. I wd suggest the Club be made to change its name. Its fraudulent in the context of Tottenham as a Club. Hotspur - I believe taken from the legendary Harry Hotspur of the 14th C, connotes leadership valour, honour and bravery in the face of superior forces. All facets not known in the make up of the Tottenham Club, better recognised for its historic flakiness, fear and willingness to shrink before an enemy. They should honour that ridiculous emblem a little more and rename themselves 'Tottenham Chickens'. Then the Club becomes aligned with its well known characteristics, of which long may they last.

  78. jeff wright

    Jan 05, 2014, 12:13 #43676

    I did warn our friend Joe from Finsbury Park the other day not to get too carried away by the spuds win at Old Trafford , Newcastle among other Europa Cup side contenders, have also won there this season. If Wenger could transform his consistent winning form against these sort of teams to that of the top ones then we would be champs again. My advice to some of the more sensitive to criticism little diddums on here is,if you can't stand the heat then don't go in the kitchen. The worrying only thing about yesterday's result was that it appears to have confirmed Wenger's view that he doesn't need to sign a new striker . Arteta disagrees with this and points out that City have 3 world class ones . This must be an advantage considering that they also have at least 2 top players for every other position covered ,apart from GK, but no one else has 2 top GK's either. Anyway,here's to a nice easy home draw in the next round of the cup to follow on yesterday's banker.Cheers

  79. 600NER PETE

    Jan 05, 2014, 12:12 #43675

    Another brilliant FA cup memory to go with all the others! I've always loved 3rd round day and this one didn't disappoint. COYG

  80. Alsace Lorraine de Totteridge

    Jan 05, 2014, 11:51 #43674

    What a pleasure to see OGL play virtually his strongest team for this tie. It was an uplifting and commanding performance and simply gives us strength going forward. Walcott is improving and is part of a determined group of players. He and we can only benefit. Spare a thought in this scenario for the humble Tottenham fan. Those of you who read the Gooner will be familiar with " Dwight Hart Lane", an illustrated tale of humble Tottenham supporting folk. In its pages, the children of the family choose to support Arsenal instead. The reality however is that if one is born in to one of the "problem" families, one is shown black and white pictures of Dave Mackay, Osvaldo Ardiles, and Glenda, the virtuous witch of the east. One is given a lilleywhite top. In short one is indoctrinated to believe that Spurs are good and Arsenal bad. Imagine the mental distress however when one discovers the reality. One has been lied to by one's parents. Dreadful behaviour of course ensues. You know, bed wetting, spending £100 million apparently fruitlessly, dismissing successful scottish managers without paying them their notice money in a fit of pique, throwing coins, attacking innocent Arsenal supporters after a game in which your side gets thumped...again. More seriously, Walcott will doubtless get punished for his reaction to their abusive behaviour, but it really is time to shut their ground for a few games or indeed throw them out of the league altogether for being totally unable, season in season out, to behave or to control themselves. Most of us know Tottenham fans and like and respect them as individuals. It isn't as though this behaviour is a majority thing, but it ought to be confronted rather than ignored. It isn't ok to behave like spoilt children with knuckle dusters on because your football team actually play like the emaciated chicken appearing on their shirts.

  81. Ron

    Jan 05, 2014, 11:48 #43673

    Good report Kev as ever. It was worrying when those chances for Theo weren't taken, as in any sport, its vital to sting your opponent when you're on top or sometimes live to regret it, but a great show all round from all on the field. Young Gnabry has so much power as well as high confidence and technique (do German footballers ever lack these attributes?)I do so hope these reports on that idle loafer Berbatov are groundless. Hes slow, idle and moody and even worse an ex spud and a failed one at that - everything we dont need to infect the dressing room, some bloody deluded legend in his own lunch time, hitching a ride for a big pay packet and some belated possible glory that his rubbish former Clubs cdt provide. Fergie sussed the idle f----r out in weeks after he went there. Step up Theo now lad and the Podster. Show your respective mettle!BADARSE - Hi mate. I dont know of one Gooner whos ever doubted the little Mozart. That guy could play till hes 35-36 quite easily if hes handled well. On the Arsene front, lots of us differ in our views, but good to read that his intention is to possibly take the old Dein role in a while. His qualities cd shine there once he does 'hang up his gloves'. I thought yesterday summed up Tottenham. Once more, they had delusions of grandeur when taking on Arsenal. Their mouths ran free pre game, they didn't show us respect in their team set up, they thought they were playing a club with a parity to them. They once more allowed their excitement to get the better of them, they forgot their place in the grander scheme of things and were slapped down for their uncouth rudeness. A very small, rather offensive, crude Club were once more taught how to behave when in more sophisticated company. As for their rotten fans, when have they ever been any different. I've been going to that sh-----e WHL since 1972 and the things ive seen happen there on derby days beggars belief. Talk about thick, social delinquents! R/K - Good to see you back mate. BADARSE has behaved more or less while youve been away, but we have to make allowances for his age dont we matey!!WESTIE will be glad to hear from you. Hes driven us nuts with his betting odds of late and some guy (CG i think it was)dressed him down the other day. The old bugger never took the hump though, bless him.A good Sunday to you on here fellas. Lets have a prediction contest for the 4th Round? you can have two bites each. Ill start - Rochdale or Everton.

  82. Tom

    Jan 05, 2014, 11:48 #43672

    Great performance and the history changers well and truly put in their place. Tim Sherwood must wonder what he has let himself in for and has anybody seen or heard from Finsbury Joe.

  83. Gare K

    Jan 05, 2014, 11:43 #43671

    @BARDARSE; thanks for the response Sir. Greetings to you as usual. I see where you’re coming from with the word ‘plastic’. I’m only using it in response to those who in this site in the last few years have labelled Wenger & board critics like me ‘plastic’ because we question some of the decisions made by the manager and those that run the club and wanting those people to be beaten up during games which thankfully no longer happens. My views may differ from these people but anyone who had read my posts regularly in the last few years will know I’m not one for insulting them, telling them to ‘f*ck off to the Lane’ or wanting them to be assaulted because that is just stupid and at the end of the day, they are Gooners like me and we all want what is best for The Arsenal, one for which is always to be better than Tottenham! And yes Dan h, no Chas & Dave for another year!

  84. Dan h

    Jan 05, 2014, 11:38 #43670

    Great performance all round and that's Chas & Dave put back in mothballs for another year!

  85. BADARSE

    Jan 05, 2014, 11:22 #43669

    Welcome home radfordkennedy, I've missed you, buddy. Gare K, a good post chum. May I just suggest you don't take some comments too literally, or personally? Me? I want to win everything, all the time. I had to rein that in a little to enjoy relationships with the rest of the world, I managed, but it wasn't easy. So not trying to win doesn't sit comfortably with me. However I am able to assess situations reasonably well, and prioritise. I understand the posts on here talking of overstretching the squad, and modify them in my head. They are well intentioned and observant views. My belief is that we have turned a corner on this theme. We have a squad, growing by the game, which is very well balanced, displaying levels of equality throughout. Ramsey, Ox, Pod, Santi, Mesut, Mikael, Flaminal, Mozart, Serge, Theo. Ten men who are loosely speaking interchangeable. This is repeated throughout the side. This recognition means an understanding that though the importance of the FA Cup has been diminished, (by money-the CL's qualification distortions),we can still make a fist of it, providing we have enough men to choose from. The schedule also plays a large part. The Spuds were unlucky to meet us when those two conditions allowed us to meet and beat them. You are completely right about Theo, he would require a partner to play alongside. It should be a wake up call for those who underestimate Olly's contribution as a lone striker. Theo did very well yesterday, though their set up helped, but was hair-brained on occasions. Yet that is Theo! Plastic is an insulting term. If people have limited vocabulary they trade off stock responses, then make a crumby word a 'one size fits all' retort. My Dad drummed one word into my brother and I as kids. Use 'different', rather than right or wrong. It is usually the case. You are also right about the medical staff. I would definitely have carried him the other way, say 50yards to a safe distance and got clearance to walk around the ground. That would have shown awareness, leadership, wisdom and high-lighted the moronic mentality of the coin-throwers. What a hope though in todays, inept, 'look over your shoulder', safe-playing society.

  86. Paul Adams

    Jan 05, 2014, 11:08 #43668

    Good defence,midfield & good enough forwards. Ever since I saw us beat the Spuds in 1971 (honestlly!), at WHL, beating the Spuds is my main soccer priority same as most of you I expect. I thought Sherwood was arrogant to the extreme about yesterday's match, let's hope he wont learn!

  87. Gare K

    Jan 05, 2014, 10:42 #43667

    Credit to all involved. Good performance, great win, another clean sheet, Tottenham put in their place yet again and staring at the possibility of yet another trophyless season. Remind me why some so-called ‘true Gooners’ wanted us to lose this game? Oh that’s right so that our players don’t get tired in the run-in of what will be our Premier League and European Cup double winning season. I’m being realistic here when I say it will take a heck of a major miracle to win either one of those trophies because of the strength of the teams we are competing against. To those who wanted us out, lol, pmsl, kmt, bitch please. Don’t ever question Wenger and board critics like me again when you want us to lose to a cup tie let alone Tottenham at home. And you have the audacity to us ‘plastic’? I’m not a Wenger fan but I respect him for the great contribution he has made to our club but I have no time for the board and I wish all of them would do one. Walcott as a striker can work when he has a partner, a big man alongside him like Giroud in a 4-4-2 system (think Heskey & Owen for Liverpool ten years ago) but not in the 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 formation that Wenger plays. Whilst I’m not the biggest Walcott fan, full marks to him for reminding the Tottenham fans the score late on. But what were the medical team thinking of carrying the stretcher in front of Tottenham fans? I must also give shout outs to Gnabry, Monreal & even Arteta even though again I’m not his biggest fan. Towards the end, it did look like our players were tired but thankfully it was job done by then. Injuries aside, it’s obvious that we need a new striker but I agree with those who say that Wenger will wait until 31st January to sign one. All in a bid (no pun to intended) to save a few quid. Income goes up annually, ST’s are going up in the summer and the club are like the American rapper Macklemore, shopping in the Thrift Shop (great tune btw!). Roll on Aston Villa at Villa Park after our nine day break. The ‘our players will get tires’ brigade will be glad about that. Up The Arsenal.

  88. Radfordkennedy

    Jan 05, 2014, 10:42 #43666

    Fantastic performance from all and a big hats off to young Gnabry and Rosicky,I thought yet again some shocking calls from the Lino,you expect Clattenberg to make a right Horlicks of it and we weren't disappointed.With regards to Theo ive stated on here before that im not his biggest fan,but ive no problems with saying well done son,i thought he looked alive and alert yesterday,although I must admit to laughing at his gesture to the crowd im sure in hindsight he would realise that he endangered the stretcher bearers by his actions......A belated happy new year to all,ive only just returned from the land of the brave,the purchase tax,and the service charge!!!, I caught a couple of games whilst away in Orlando and can recommend a great bar to you to watch Arsenal games,Frankie Farrels bar and grille for those who know the area its on Sth Apopka and Vineland on SR 535 south..onwards and upwards Go Go Gunners

  89. BADARSE

    Jan 05, 2014, 10:35 #43665

    Thank you Kevin, and good morning to you sir. I enjoy the reports much more of late, ha ha, it's what winning does to me! Bard did you read my response recently to CanadaGooner about motivation? People will always up their performances if motivated-so a new contract acts as a trigger as you well know. I know your question was rhetorical, but I use my reply to carry my view that if it is at work in him it is small potato-whoops, talking of the Spuds again! I think what we are seeing is the real Rosicky, I have always championed him as I believed he had more skill than anyone at the club-and still does, though remaining an enigma. Injuries answered that puzzle for me. Unfulfilled potential is coming home. westlower your post on the previous article deserves another airing. Yes Serge can become the new 'Rocky', he is that good. A new Young Gun has definitely arrived.

  90. James

    Jan 05, 2014, 10:05 #43664

    A bit harsh on Theo who in my opinion is as good a finisher as anyone in the Premiership. Roy Keane summed it up best on ITV apparently a Spurs fan as a boy he said. "Tottenham will always let you down." and "Spurs fans are idiots". Top top quality.

  91. John

    Jan 05, 2014, 9:58 #43663

    No Giroud no Bendtner and Wenger still doesnt pick Podolski.I really dont think Wenger fancies him.It has to be to do with his poor work rate.Once again we saw Walcott is not a striker.With his pace it was criminal he got caught offside so often against two slow CB's.And his finishing was poor.I just wish now Wenger would give Gnabry a run in the side.He has a football brain.And Spurs were very poor

  92. I.P. from South Africa

    Jan 05, 2014, 9:15 #43662

    I agree with Bard regarding Walcot. Apart from loads of speed and the infrequent good delivery, he has still, after all these years of Wenger's development, not got what it takes to become a TRUE TOP player. In my opinion he lacks finesse, TRUE class and a cool head to make effective decisions.If, maybe, he can drop his tendencies to overestimate himself and his football abilities and become more realistic and humble in his approach to the game he may develop further than what he is now.

  93. Treble Double

    Jan 05, 2014, 9:08 #43661

    @ Finsbury Joe - your boys took one hell of a beating last night! Don't suppose we will be seeing you for a while.

  94. Bard

    Jan 05, 2014, 8:40 #43660

    Fantastic. Spanking the Spuds is always a joy. Gnarbry looks at home at this level and totally agree that Rosicky looks in top form, presumably because he is also looking for a new contract. Why is it they always put a decent shift in when their contract comes up for renewal ? Theo is definitely not the answer up front he doesnt have the guile or accuracy. Youre right Kev it would be sensible to buy a striker now rather than later in the month but we are talking about Arsenal. They have to go through the pointless ritual of banging on doors that wont open and then haggling over minutiae. It masquerades as due diligence when in fact its incompetence.

  95. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Jan 05, 2014, 8:34 #43659

    a superb team performance 9esp. Rosicky and Monreal) that sent those loveable Spuds and their rent-a-quote manager packing. "We showed we belong on the same field and in the same company as Arsenal." he is quoted this morning. Ha ha. Let's not forget, they were taking over our mantle weren't they? Oh, hold on a minute............

  96. smithy

    Jan 05, 2014, 8:19 #43658

    Good performance! Really excited about gnarbry- he was excellent yesterday.Serge and the ox in midfield would have devastating pace and movement.We still need to buy a striker though, as theos performance was good but against a very poor defence in a space yawning 442 formation.I don't think any other opposition will go 442 against us.We need a striker with guile who can create a chance out of nothing.Currently we haven't got one of those at the moment.But it's best to focus on what we do have until anything changes- We played well yesterday and that's a good omen for the coming matches.