Fine Finishing Before A Nervy End

Online Ed: Three points at Villa Park



Fine Finishing Before A Nervy End


Arsenal returned to the top of the Premier League courtesy of a 2-1 win against Aston Villa that went some way towards making up for the opening day home defeat against Paul Lambert’s side. At that time, fans were in uproar at the lack of activity in the transfer market, and here we are a few months on with supporters becalmed, but wondering whether or not the opportunity to strengthen is going to be passed up. Olivier Giroud returned to the starting line-up after missing the last two matches, and if Arsenal are to prove successful without signing cover for him, he will have to remain fit and in form.

Arsenal’s record at Villa Park – against Villa at any rate – has been remarkable for many years. The last defeat was the game in late 1998 of the half-time parachuting Santa who hit a stand on his way down and delayed the start of the second half by 15 minutes. The visitors, 2-0 up and seemingly in control, lost 3-2 and ultimately missed out on the title by a point. I also recall a painful 1-1 in the spring of 2003 in which a young Kolo Toure trying to clear the ball put it into his own net to give Villa the equalizer. Another season where the Gunners just missed out on the title. So the omens for not winning this fixture were not good.

Aside from the return of Giroud, Serge Gnabry retained his place in the starting line-up, whilst Szczesny, Flamini and Ozil returned after not beginning the Spurs FA Cup game. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain was on the bench after his injury in the August game v the same opposition and, even with Walcott out for the season, at least Arsenal have genuine strength in depth in the midfield and wide forward positions. Villa lined-up with three centre backs against Giroud, which seemed a bit odd, however, the injury to Nathan Baker saw them revert to a 4-4-2.

Villa approached the game with a defensive mindset, meaning the Gunners largely controlled the first half and the two goals that ultimately decided the game came in the space of about 60 seconds as firstly Jack Wilshere and then Giroud demonstrated their finishing quality. The first goal was the result of some fine build up play whilst the second saw Villa robbed of possession in their own half and an excellent ball from Wilshere to set up Giroud. Wilshere was named the man of the match and is certainly performing better this campaign. The goals in quick succession were a sign of killer instinct.

However, after the re-start there was less sign of this as the second half saw the visitors seemingly try to conserve energy by playing the game out without really going for the kill, comfortable with the two goal cushion. It was a policy that is fine as long as no encouragement is given to the opposition but the carelessness of Cazorla led to a Villa goal, and then it was a predictable case of the Alamo for the last fifteen minutes. It was a situation that should have been avoided, but the new defensive resolution came good, although with better Villa finishing, the points could have been shared. Telling was that Per Mertesacker immediately let the Spaniard know his thoughts after the goal had gone in.

Giroud had a decent match. He might have done better with a cross from Sagna very early on that he headed wide, but overall, he provided a good outlet to relieve pressure, ploughing a lone furrow and ensuring Villa’s defenders were kept busy. He gives the option of a long hoofed clearance to gain territory when spells like the final 15 minutes of this game have to be endured. Walcott would provide an alternative outlet, but he is gone for the campaign, so the less Arsenal create situations where they are camped in their own half the better.

So it was a case of job done by the evening’s end, and a return to the first place. There is no real margin for error at present. Arsenal simply have to keep on winning until they reach February and the games against Liverpool and Manchester United and see how they fare when the opposition becomes tougher again. However, the habit of consistently taking points where they are expected is a good one and hugely encouraging, with the defensive improvement and increased sense of commitment the main reason for the change.

This Arsenal are a tougher prospect than we have seen for a few seasons. They seem less brittle, which is surely down to the increased experience and change in personnel. Do they have what it takes to win a title? Or will the tougher matches prove their undoing? All they can do for now is keep winning, and look to strengthen their options in positions where they are light on numbers to maximize their chances.

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  1. BADARSE

    Jan 17, 2014, 21:35 #44353

    Oh jjetplane, you green tea supping, pedal-power junkie, ease up a little on the juice. This site still sees sparks flying on occasions, but in general it has mellowed quite a bit and seems to be relatively polite and even outrageously friendly sometimes. I like that! Keep the faith Gooner.

  2. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jan 17, 2014, 18:13 #44349

    jjetplane, Yes it would be nice if Draxler was in the bag, but i wouldn't read to much into his grin, we've all seen it before, and as he's been described as an unidentified flying object sighted all over the place by OGL i'll be surprised if we're not still waiting just to see what the grin did mean as big ben strikes.

  3. jjetplane

    Jan 17, 2014, 14:27 #44343

    Nothing is true/All is permitted .... Any more on that Wenger smile? Think I miss out on the veteran's club as I cannot drive a motor though did have a smashing little Corgi Hillman Imp. Strangely enough I have taken up cycling and green tea on a daily basis for the last 10 years. The smile tells me there will be no quick fixes though I 'believe' something is afoot but whether it is that Messi (in decline) & Fabregas (potential) package is another thing. We must not let Ozil get lonely. We need at least another two 'tarts' in the team. Three points tomorrow and we finally depart earth atmosphere ....

  4. BADARSE

    Jan 17, 2014, 13:40 #44338

    jjetplane that is an interesting theoretical stab of a notion-but incorrect. It is clear that the potion you are taking is having some effect, though at this lucid juncture it is safe to remind you that your membership of the Veteran's Club is fully paid up, so please stop sending the cheques! I am totally relaxed about proceedings, as oft stated. A newcomer has to be a permanent good player, or I shall wait for the summer. I do not want any of the names bandied about for a quick-fix, and am uncertain whether they could do that anyway. Let's see what comes through this window, or the next.

  5. jjetplane

    Jan 17, 2014, 13:23 #44336

    Bard I would say you are just facing reality with your thoughts on Doing Something in the transfer market. I am hoping the grin on Wenger's face an hour ago means we have Draxler and he is now 'in safe hands'. If this is not the case then we may be moving from the static to the pathologically flippant. Not being angry with Arsenal at the moment because they are giving a good account so far this season. Now dear Westie & Badarse (Blackpool beckons) - methinks in alorrah yer posts thar does dwell some of that old anxiety also know as siege mentality & methinks thou likes ta transfer it onto another poster at times in the hope of some form of recantation .... Lovely chaps really! My old man was a tunnel miner who was hurling mad but back to start and how does that song go - 'nice one Draxler/Let's have anuvver one! ... (repeat ad infinitum) Badarse That stuff you got that gave you visions of Charlie George - I'm on it!

  6. Westlower

    Jan 17, 2014, 12:53 #44335

    Bard, Since I retired, gambling is a major part of my life, as it supplements my income from pensions. The golden rule is to never bet on anything when you are emotionally involved. Same reason fans shouldn't have a say in the running of their football club. Judgement becomes impaired by irrational passion. What we wish for and what actually happens comes off in our favour about 30-40% of the time.

  7. Bard

    Jan 17, 2014, 12:34 #44334

    Westie; If I've read your posts correctly you're a bit of a gambling connoisseur. So i presume if you were betting you'd lump it on Arsenal to win the league ? I'm not much of a gambler but I wouldn't put a shilling on them to win it without an addition or two.

  8. BADARSE

    Jan 17, 2014, 9:53 #44331

    Morning westlower. Make that a minority of two!

  9. Westlower

    Jan 17, 2014, 9:34 #44330

    @Bard, Frustration doubtless borne from endless speculation. The media are well practiced in hyping up the transfer window with typically Sky making it more important than it actually is. The clocks ticking we're told on an hourly basis, with said clock always displayed on screen on their news channel. How many 'exclusive' made up stories have we been fed over the years. The best deals are always the one's that are announced when the deal is done and not widely anticipated (who saw Ozil coming?). AFC are diligent(slow)in the transfer market and if that's a fault then it's better that way than throwing money at a perceived/temporary problem. With the exception of Gibbs every other regular player in the first team have been bought from other clubs, which in itself dispels the popular theory that AFC are found wanting in the transfer market. I must be in a minority of one thinking our present squad will get the job done and win the PL. I doubt any major deals will be done until the summer. Perhaps it's blind faith but I still retain belief in Nicklas Bendnter to come good when playing instead of Giroud. I think the lone striker role suits his ego/mentality and he's suffered in the past by being played wide when teamed up with Adebayor as they just didn't get on. Nick turned 26 years old yesterday and should now be reaching the best period of his career. To date he's scored 47 goals for AFC, 24 in PL. Why wouldn't he continue to score when given the chance to do so.

  10. Bard

    Jan 17, 2014, 7:42 #44328

    Westie its less about anxiety more about frustration. I get the bigger picture and i know that the clubs with the biggest bank balance win the league generally but I've posted before this in my opinion will be our last realistic chance to win the league for some considerable while precisely because as you say the Citeh and Chelsea have much more money to throw at it. The point of my previous post is the speed with which other clubs get deals done compared with our laboured procrastinations. Matic for £17m seems like a good deal for a decent price. Yes happy if we got Draxler who I've seen a bit of. I'll leave the spuds issue as they're an irrelevance.

  11. BADARSE

    Jan 16, 2014, 20:00 #44327

    radfordkennedy. How strange the world turns. My opinion of you just grew. I was never offended, for I remember the darkness of ignorance we existed in way back then. Sure it was a different world then, with rules for the time. We are much wiser now( most of us), and to think it could be your wife, sister, even daughter! I promise you fella, you shall never have any cause to apologise to me again, (as Toad of Toad Hall said, never, ever, ever, ever...). By the way champ, my Mum used to smoke Player's Navy Cut, My uncle was a matelot, and my Dad was a merchant seaman for a few years, ha ha. Life is just a game! So just sail on, and on...

  12. radfordkennedy

    Jan 16, 2014, 19:38 #44326

    Badarse...A YOB!!a retired member of Her Majesty's Senior Service a yob err yeah possibly seriously I've been a bit worried I may have upset people by recanting that memory yesterday I apologise unreservedly to all if I caused offence by the sexist overtones to the story and I certainly don't condone any abusive behaviour towards ladies again my apologies

  13. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jan 16, 2014, 16:17 #44324

    Ron, i doubt very much that there is, but if one does exist i'm sure it's that they were put on this earth to be always in the shadow off, and laughed at by Arsenal.

  14. Ron

    Jan 16, 2014, 15:35 #44323

    As many of us have said over many, many years, is there a point to Tottenham Hotspur? If there is, ive never recognised it. Im not sure there are many Clubs less aimless than them.

  15. Westlower

    Jan 16, 2014, 14:03 #44319

    @Bard/JJ, You're both letting your anxieties show through. It's wishful thinking that we can compete financially with Chelsea & Man City in the transfer market. Neither has money constraints. AFC has an extra burden in the envious troll that lives at the Lane is now trying to hinder our attempts to sign Draxler by vetoing Holtby's proposed move back to Schalke. How many clubs have to put up with a man obsessed more with AFC than his own club when dealing in the transfer market. The obnoxious little man is being eaten alive by his inane jealousy of AFC. He tried and failed to put a spoke into the Ozil deal. We read that some of his summer signings are already looking for a way out of the swamp. Even Spurs fans must be embarrassed by Levy's green eyed activities. As with most small men he feels inadequate when in competition with real men! Given Giroud will remain our #1 striker I'm relaxed we still have two players to cover for him in Podolski & Bendnter. If we played with two up front we would need another striker brought in. I'll happily settle for Draxler, if he is available in January. It'd be a waste of resource to buy the likes of Long (destined for Hull), Defoe (destined for Canada), Berbotov (destined for nowhere) or any other reject/unwanted player. If we signed this type of player how do we get rid of them come the summer? Why would any worthwhile player come in to be cover for 4 months? No one would sign for anything less than a 2/3 year deal. For as long as Giroud is regarded as our top striker we stick with him.

  16. jjetplane

    Jan 16, 2014, 11:46 #44312

    We will be punching well above our weight come Feb/March having half listened to another rampage from Citeh. (only five). They even had a 'new signing' come on who scored in his first minute. Chelski also sign some geezer who is taller than Toure which may well put them back in total business. Commentators were talking how Blackburn were doing well up til 3-0. If we don't beat Southampton or sign a couple of players well, ....... Oh yeah - & before I F O.. down the road ....

  17. Bard

    Jan 16, 2014, 10:55 #44311

    There's no top players available in the Jan window so we're told but what's inthe papers this morning Chelsea have signed Matic. Rumours last week ,deal done this week, available for selection this Sat. I hate Chelsea but they get the job done. Wenger f**** about like an oap in a supermarket.

  18. George Osborne's Velvet Drawers

    Jan 16, 2014, 7:58 #44305

    Am wearing my taxation monocle with regard to this 'Veteran's Club'. As for make of car I travel in, I haven't the foggiest notion. One never drives, one is driven!

  19. HowardL

    Jan 16, 2014, 7:29 #44304

    I too did the Hillsboro/Villa Park "Double" trip in '71. I can't recall the car - went with a mate called Ralph and think it was a Volvo but I can still remember the games. What a fantastic few days! At the other extreme, didn't know the Villa Park parachutist had died as a result of his injuries. Even though the incident and 20 minute delay to the start of the second half destroed our momentum and almost certainly cost us the game, that's a very sad end to a rather stupid stunt.

  20. Unchives

    Jan 15, 2014, 21:22 #44303

    @John, Westlower & Bard. The games that I felt we failed in would have sent us far enough ahead in points, allowing us to absorb any mistakes in the return matches.Why do you think Citeh fought so hard to win against us and Chelsea not to loose against us. If we had beaten Everton, Man City & Chelsea, the title would have been ours. Liverpool & Spurs were a test and the points went along way to giving us the cushion to absorb the failures in the games as mentioned, however we no longer have such a cushion. I agree that this round of points in the return games should be higher....but will they? We have already lost two strikers, how can we not expect at least one replacement? We are one striker injury away from disaster.

  21. Michael Barrymore's Toilet Brush

    Jan 15, 2014, 20:03 #44302

    We all want Arsenal to win the League. That is in no doubt so the bickering is pointless over that point. However it doesn't take a genius to work out that we're light up top. It is also difficult to forget the past 5 years when we've regularly dropped our guard and been punished for it. A couple of seasons ago we had quality up top (RVP) but a poor mentality. This squad looks to be the real deal mentality wise. But do we have the quality up top? Not in my book. We need both to win the League.

  22. BADARSE

    Jan 15, 2014, 19:27 #44301

    Evening Ron. I didn't want to burst radfordkennedy's bubble by criticising the sexist banter directed at the girl, soon like you and I, he will only have memories left. That is a gigantic step in the right direction, all joking aside. People are generally more aware and educated to the situation so don't abuse in the same way, and people will not accept it so readily. That girl today would probably just walk out of the stadium.

  23. Ron

    Jan 15, 2014, 19:20 #44300

    BADARSE - I feel that in todays society,the Club wdt risk exposing that young woman who R/K mentions as the bile that she would take wouldn't allow them or her to even consider it. Anyway, with one or two of the early 80s team lurking she d have needed running spikes not sexy boots for starters. As for RK, we can only ponder why our friend recalls only the young woman and not the scintillating footie Chapman, Hawley, Caton and Co dished up!

  24. BADARSE

    Jan 15, 2014, 18:26 #44299

    Hi Alsace another little connecting thread. I've done some promotional work in my time, and not always pleasant. Females who do the work at a place like Hihgbury may just say 'No more!' A different personality, like this young radfordkennedy girl may just deal with it comfortably. At the Grove it is not so bad as you are more removed from yobs like radfordkennedy, ha ha. Some people are very aggressive and even if you are offering them something for nothing they want to have a go at you, now it's my turn to moan at promotional people.

  25. Alsace Lorraine de Totteridge

    Jan 15, 2014, 18:15 #44298

    Radford Kennedy and Badarse. I remember the lady in question, who was an actress and was on television more than once I think, though in minor roles. My ex-used to be quite unpleasant about her. I wonder which of them has worn the better? Ho Ho Ho.

  26. Westlower

    Jan 15, 2014, 16:36 #44297

    @Danny, In your last two posts you have described Wenger as senile & a frog, Giroud as crap & the team is headed downwards. Are all the above also guilty of getting as to the top for a sustained period & knocking the mighty Spurs out of the Cup? Say hello to Finsbury Joe next time you see him.

  27. BADARSE

    Jan 15, 2014, 15:52 #44296

    You know westlower and Ron, Liverpool sense of humour is great but when a Scouser tells a joke people in London will not laugh... it's too far away for them to hear it! Oh dear the Gooner sit down comedy circuit is still alive. chris dee my Dad had a Humber Super Snipe, which was a beast of a car. @Danny I disagree with your take on the game, players and the substitutions; I do agree with one thing though, when you are at the top there certainly is only one way to go, and that must be down, physics dictates that.

  28. Ron

    Jan 15, 2014, 15:49 #44295

    Bard - I think the left back 'back up' role will be taken up by Vermaelen now. Hes played there before but hardly dynamite in that position but hes adequate i suppose.

  29. Bard

    Jan 15, 2014, 15:40 #44294

    Unchives: bigger tests do await us. Beating an abysmal Villa is one thing beating Chelsea, Citeh et all is quite another. I keep saying it but those games will be decided by a top quality striker and we don't have one. Yes it's difficult to find one but not impossible. If we don't buy" and we now need another left back to cover for the injury prone Gibbs, we can kiss goodbye to the title. All the posts on here suggesting we're strong enough already are delusional.Of course we can then look forward to normal service being resumed with Wenger bemoaning our bad luck and telling us a top 4 finish is the holy grail. Oh yes and we're building for the future. He needs to show some cojones.

  30. Danny

    Jan 15, 2014, 15:23 #44293

    What a poor game by Arsenal. Should have blown Villa out of sight. Man City , Pool and Chelsea would have scored 5-6. We are lucky to be on TOP and there is only one way -downwards with this Team. No quality striker will bite the frog in his ASS, as GIROUD is slow and crap. Plus what is wrong with Podolski and why bring on a player that has been out for months. Such Miss-management of players will be the coaches downfall

  31. John

    Jan 15, 2014, 15:06 #44291

    @Unchives why are the names of Liverpool and Spurs missing from test 1, but included in test 2? is it because we beat them and 8 points from 18 doesn't look anywhere as bad as 2 from 12? Is it only failing a test if we loose but not passing if we win?

  32. Westlower

    Jan 15, 2014, 14:59 #44290

    @Unchives, We have improved since we played these difficult fixtures first time around. Both Manchester games were played off the back of trips into Europe midweek. If we achieve 8/9 points from a possible 15 we're still very much on track for the title. If you know of a top quality striker who is available please enlighten us? Scoring goals isn't a problem for us as we have plenty of fire power in the squad.

  33. Unchives

    Jan 15, 2014, 14:34 #44289

    The first test, when we had a good points difference between the top four, we failed. Man Utd, Everton, Man City & Chelsea. We only achieved 2 points from 12. Our points difference is now insignificant. Test two is almost upon us,Liverpool, Man Utd in Feb, then the deciders in March, Spurs, Chelsea & Man City, two being away games from these three.All three games come together. Except this time we do not have a significant points lead to soak up any mistakes. We failed in test 1 because we didn't have another quality striker to finish the job! Will Wenger go for it this time or will we surrender another title again and buy no one? It is truly Wenger's call.

  34. Getyergooner

    Jan 15, 2014, 14:16 #44288

    I was at the match at Villa in 1998. After a 30 minute delay and the teams having to warm up again,their third goal was clearly offside and when played back on the big screen all the Arsenal supporters were in uproar. The poor man in the parchute died from his injuries six months later.

  35. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jan 15, 2014, 13:22 #44287

    ITK, not all of us have/had our head buried in the sand mate,just more optimistic than we have been over the last eight years but still aware the cave in could still engulf us at any time.

  36. I Prefer my spuds mashed

    Jan 15, 2014, 13:00 #44286

    IMHO I think if Wilshere stays fit till the end of the season then the titles ours. He's the best midfielder in the Premiership, he sees the pass as good as Ozil (who I would put second), has great control, runs at defenders better than anybody has a great engine has added goals to his game and with his low sense of gravity is the nearest England have to Messi yet still a fair way short.

  37. Ron

    Jan 15, 2014, 12:37 #44285

    BADARSE - Well,in all fairness, i still like to hear Mull of Kintyre! Ive a lot of time for Liverpudlians and Liverpool mate. The most knowledgable and realistic football fans in my view, by some considerable distance. Its been diluted a little now as Liverpools support is more cosmopolitan these days and thus they have factions who are a bit more, shall i say, 'SKY' informed and minded. Ford Capri you say? I had one. late 70s. Great for hand brake turn contests!! Could spin it like a top and still feel stable. Didnt do the tyres much good though. Happy days!

  38. BADARSE

    Jan 15, 2014, 12:20 #44284

    Afternoon westlower old mate. 'Z' Cars, ah, Brian 'Fancy Smith' Blessed. The old Ford Zephyrs and Zodiacs-there's that car theme chris dee started. 50 years old TV,WOW! Scouse humour, to go with your really interesting Liverpool experiences, is tops. A musical link. Ron and I disagree over McCartney, I think he is a musical genius, Ron thinks he is Arsene's half-brother. Heard a programme on Radio 4 yesterday with Neil Innes, of Rutles fame. He mentioned being in the studio when Paul wandered in, sat at the piano and just played this new tune, 'Hey Jude', and it just wiped him out. He said, 'If Paul banged two bricks together it would sound musical.' Sorry to bring in the heavyweights Ron, ha ha. Humour! Neil said he was with George, hadn't seen him for a while, and tentatively said he was reforming the Rutles. He said George just gave that mischievous smile and said, 'Which one of you is going to get shot?' Loved that man dearly.

  39. Westlower

    Jan 15, 2014, 12:00 #44283

    @Badarse, I was going to put 'current' in the title of my best AFC team, but I didn't as it seemed so obvious that even Ron could work it out. I've over estimated him again, although I do share his love of Scouse humour. I worked periodically for 15 years on Merseyside and every individual considers themselves to be a comic. Had some great times at Goodison & Anfield. I was accompanied to an AFC v Everton game by a Liverpool supporting workmate. I parked my car in Stanley Park and was impressed how my mate dealt with the young scally's who demanded money for minding my car. There was a U13's football match taking place as we walked through Stanley Park and on seeing me in my Arsenal shirt the kids stopped playing. The abuse I received was informative & educational. My mate then suggested we stop off for a pint in a pub we were passing. Suffice to say it's not a good idea to enter a pub wearing an Arsenal shirt when the rest of a very crowded pub were wearing Blue. I escaped after some fast talking explaining I was lost & suffered from learning difficulties. Although I learned not to repeat the exercise. Another time I was sat in the front row behind the goal at Anfield for a League Cup tie with a Evertonian workmate . On hearing my southern accent a steward took exception and decided to evict me. My scouse mate had a word in the stewards ear and I was allowed to remain in my seat. It was the coldest night of the year & we lost 2-4 with Wrighty scoring both our goals & Bouldy sent off. Can't believe the teams still come out to the Z Cars tune at Goodison.

  40. BADARSE

    Jan 15, 2014, 12:00 #44282

    Remember the girls radfordkennedy, not your particular one though. Life was a little less fraught then, much more relaxed. Now as a 'for instance' when exam results are due parents are so hyped up regarding grades that it can become a focal point of conversations. I just step away, I mean who really cares if little Tyrone or Ebony gets a A B or C? Will they make the world a better place? Of course not, it's all about positioning for the mad dash to prosperity. These conversations did not happen years ago. Once out there many things just take on a life of their own. All a little self serving and superfluous. Now back to more important matters, like the Arsenal!

  41. Roy

    Jan 15, 2014, 11:53 #44281

    @radfordkennedy, nice one mate - you gave me a real giggle reminding me of that !

  42. BADARSE

    Jan 15, 2014, 11:33 #44280

    That's funny chris dee. We've formed the Veteran's club on here, we've drifted off down Memory Lane a few times, we've formed our own choral society discussing music, then onto concerts. Musicianship too, and now you've got a car theme. I drove to Sheffield, then Villa Park midweek in a two-tone( light blue body/white top)Ford Capri Coupe. I liked that motor, it knew it's own way to Highbury.

  43. Ron

    Jan 15, 2014, 11:32 #44279

    Westie and BADARSE - Morning guys. Ha ha. Good stuff fellas. Yes, i knew what you were doing Westie, just teasing matey. This Draxler has been mentioned so often over the last 12 months. Might be some truth in it, though you say its the Daily Mail you read it in? That scurillous, sanctimonious, spiteful little rag got a divorce from any notions the truth years ago, so ill not hold my breath guys. Chris Dee - Went to the Villa Park replay matey. Recall Mike Pejic, the Stoke left back kicking us to bits. George Eastham playing for Stoke too! Great match. Blood and guts stuff. The rest is history.

  44. radfordkennedy

    Jan 15, 2014, 11:29 #44278

    Badarse..hello mate the snouty story was funny but I suspect that far to many bottles of ale may have been consumed out of relief on the way home for him to give his good lady the benefit when he got home!.as far as cheeky banter goes do you remember about 30 odd years ago a team of ladies used to sell a type of lottery ticket from the cinder track around the pitch at highbury before the game,there was one in particular a red haired stunner in thigh length cavalier boots and leopard print scarf,well I can tell you mate as an old clockender she was on the end of some right old ribald remarks I cannot repeat them but I'm sure you can guess but it did reduce us to tears of laughter sometimes the things people shouted to her and give her her due she just waved and smiled..funny times those

  45. BADARSE

    Jan 15, 2014, 11:21 #44277

    westlower, you're having a giraffe, ha ha. Your best team cannot be argued with in my eyes, thought Ron might though. He probably knew what you meant but did a loop in his head and has now regressed to that ten years old he once was. Enough of the Fruit Salads and Blackjacks, Ron!

  46. chris dee

    Jan 15, 2014, 11:16 #44276

    Yep April 1971,Frankie goes up for a corner gets his head to the ball,it's going in but is handled on the line.Peter Storey steps up and the double is still on!We set off home jubilant in my mate Dave's Ford Anglia . A trip to Villa Park on the Wednesday and the semi is sorted,the Ford Anglia came through for us again. What a car!

  47. Westlower

    Jan 15, 2014, 11:01 #44275

    @Ron, My best AFC team was meaning the current injury free one who could play against Fulham at the weekend. I do live in the present sometimes matey! Interesting to read we're pursing another German player in Draxler, as that would bring the number of Germans at the club to 8. BFG, Ozil, Pod, Zelalem, Gnabry, Siemann & Eisfeld. Also rave reviews about 16 year old Daniel Crowley who starred in the 6-1 Youth Cup win over Posh. Liam Brady mentioned him in conversation chatting to Alan Brazil on TalkSport this morning. @Badarse, What's a 'Donald Duck' miss??

  48. 1970Gooner

    Jan 15, 2014, 10:48 #44273

    I don't go much now, just a handful of games when I can get tickets - my season ticket given up a few years back after a gutful of Wenger's lack of defensive nous. I miss the pre match pint or two and the terrace banter, and had to laugh at Badarse's comment about the Stoke semi-final. Much more optimistic this season now that Bouldy has been allowed to get the defence sorted and let's hope the rumours on Draxler are true and that he can be the new RVP. Could be the final piece of the jigsaw.

  49. BADARSE

    Jan 15, 2014, 10:32 #44271

    Radfordkennedy hi buddy 'the home loving man', let me set the scene. Hillsborough, April 1971. Dying seconds of the FA Cup S/F game and Arsenal 1-2 down. Peter Storey places the ball on the spot at the Leppings Lane End, facing him is Gordon Banks. Tension running through every Gooner in the stadium, and I guess the players too. One wag nearby defused the heart attack mood with a simple statement. 'If this goes in, then tonight I'm gonna have a nice 'Donald Duck' with the missus!' Everyone in a 3 metre circumference just cracked up. Terrace humour is magical.

  50. Ron

    Jan 15, 2014, 10:32 #44270

    Westie - No place for Joe Baker in your team then, nor Georgie Eastham? Shame on you Sir! R/K - From time to time, i get to Goodison Park and (much rarer)to Anfield on freebies. Some of the singing is hilarious on the Kop and Gwladys St end, especially the chants theyve devised (esp Everton) for their own players. The scouse humour is alive and well for sure. Over the years, dare i say it, i find a lot of the most insulting, degrading and most spiteful and offensive chants towards other fans flow from the stands on London Clubs stadia towards each other.That Manc rabble know how to dish it out to Arsene im well aware of course. As fantastic as our away support is, our crowd have sunk to some levels over the last 7-8 years in my view, but not so much in a racist sense. I make these points to try and show that not all football singing is beneath the pale as many who are most active on the anti race campaign would suggest.

  51. GoonerRon (the real one)

    Jan 15, 2014, 9:44 #44269

    @ Diane - firstly, the previous post apparently made by me wasn't me, cheap insults aren't really my thing. As for your previous comment, you're right in that it was a nice result and that is all that counts. Villa are such fodder that they Citeh at their place. Apparently we have no chance to win the league yet sit top past the half way stage.

  52. Dark Hei

    Jan 15, 2014, 9:41 #44268

    @BADARSE Thanks mate, much appreciated.

  53. radfordkennedy

    Jan 15, 2014, 9:24 #44267

    Westlower...morning mate it makes you wonder where these stories come from one minute AW is makig noises about not buying the next were linked again with Draxler,from what I understand we intend to meet his buy out clause,I hope this time such a clause exists and we don't make a complete horlicks of the situation and embarass ourselves again....on a lighter note a pal played me a piece of footage on youtube that had recorded the west ham fans singing during a recent mauling and they were singing to the tune of our old RVP song "you're nothing special..we lose every week!"After the recent debate on racist chanting its nice to know that terrace humour is alive and kicking

  54. BADARSE

    Jan 15, 2014, 9:19 #44266

    I saw a diamond post today. Simple, succinct and answers many. Take a bow Dark Hei.

  55. Westlower

    Jan 15, 2014, 8:34 #44265

    Good piece in today's Mail newspaper re Invincibles Mk11. Unbeaten in last 28 games when Mertesacker & Koscielny have completed 90 minutes together. Also hope stories linking us with Julian Draxler of Schalke are true. One of the brightest talents in German football. Made his International debut in May 2012 coming on as sub for Podolski. Now has played for Germany on 10 occasions, still only 20 years old.

  56. Mike

    Jan 15, 2014, 8:11 #44263

    Ozil - German player of the year - based on the comments on this site, I would hate to see what they thought of the rest of the German players

  57. Graham

    Jan 15, 2014, 7:42 #44262

    Ozil is always on the edge of games.Yes we can cover for him in games like Villa but its the massive games v City Chelsea and United where you need your top players to turn up where he has gone missing.Its the big games that make the big players.We are top despite him not because of him

  58. Dark Hei

    Jan 15, 2014, 1:47 #44261

    BTW, does anyone think that we are not spanking teams because we are playing more conservatively this year? With the high back line gone, the midfield has to play closer to our goal.

  59. DW Thomas

    Jan 15, 2014, 1:30 #44260

    Wilshere had a great game. Ozil's pass to Navho for the first goal was sublime, yet he had a very off game. Where was Podolski? Giroud again showed his strengths. We have not had a striker for a long time who DEFENDS like him! I loved his effort at one point even defending just outside outbox. Sagna deserves a very good contract. He is a true lion and Kos and Per aren't bad either. Just wait till we're near a full squad again! If we add some class we could really challenge come March. Wait I can't believe I'm saying these things, so much positivity! Ok I'll balance with some negatives. We must go for the jugular and finish teams off. Last night we really made things tougher. Yet we held on. Years past that was draw waiting,to happen. Good result.

  60. Tommy Spud Torturer

    Jan 14, 2014, 23:40 #44258

    Diane Abbot sounds like a bitter spud history changer to me. Bugger of back to the swamp with all the other losers and to the biggest and most crappiest can't get up for any game ever cos we're all effeminate chicken ball balancer's garbage excuse for a premiership football team, who have less history than Sunderland and Blackburn who I can't be bothered to say I hate them anymore cos they're so irrelevant, cricket club from Middlesex.

  61. ITK

    Jan 14, 2014, 23:32 #44257

    Ozil is our weakest player. Yet no one will admit this. You've all got your head in the sand. Giroud was poor. He gives the ball away cheaply consistently yet gets lavished with praise. Imagine how better we could be if we had a striker and an Ozil that beat players rather than just let games pass him by. When was the last time Ozil or Giroud won man of the match. It doesn't happen. Wake up.

  62. Diane Abbott's Love Egg

    Jan 14, 2014, 23:30 #44256

    @GoonerRon. One of Wenger's apologists I suspect. Better get 'ya flag amended to read- In Park Chu Young We Trust

  63. GoonerRon

    Jan 14, 2014, 23:06 #44255

    Diane Abbott's love egg:Get stuffed pork face.

  64. theo's bikini-line

    Jan 14, 2014, 21:44 #44254

    And this years the prize for the best forum pseudonym goes to.... Diane Abbott's Love Egg!! Brilliant work.

  65. jjetplane

    Jan 14, 2014, 21:33 #44253

    My take on Ozil is that he can do what he wants as far as I am concerned as he does have that certain class that is truly rare in the PL. I remember when Ronaldo first popped up and everyone thought what a twat. Now look at him. I am hoping Ozil has still to really find his feet but I am finding his adjustment pleasing and that pass last night was amazing. Maybe a bit blind on this one but am glad we have him. I reckon at times it is hard to measure some player's contribution. I am all for forgiving what appears a lazy attitude and would say I bet he is a great influence on young Serge both for football and culture. Of course if things go way too sluggish there is always Per to give him a pitch-sized slap. Come what may, the balance of this side has made some big strides in the last year or so. Gawd - the drugs are really working!

  66. Diane Abbott's Love Egg

    Jan 14, 2014, 21:19 #44252

    @GoonerRon 'Ya big pillock. Nice result but Villa are fodder these days. Every time we play a top 4 side we crumble. If we continue to do that there is not a chance we will win the League.

  67. John

    Jan 14, 2014, 21:12 #44251

    Really don't get all the Ozil bashing, he played 16 games and has 4 goals and 7 assists. Yeah he doesn't run around like a blue arsed fly, but we have one of those and he's called Rosicky, and for all his hard work he has produced 8 goals and 12 assists in 123 games over the last 4.5 years!! I know which I'd prefer and I don't think it's a coincidence that we're top of the league with Ozil in the team.

  68. Westlower

    Jan 14, 2014, 20:43 #44249

    Best AFC team? Szczesny, Sagna, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Monreal, Flamini, Wilshere, Ozil, Gnabry, Giroud, Oxlade-Chamberlain. Subs; Fabianski, Gibbs, Ramsey, Arteta, Rosicky, Cazorla, Podolski.

  69. billthered

    Jan 14, 2014, 18:46 #44247

    I think special praise should be made to Monreal as we used to have a fat Brazilian as cover for full back. Also when he comes on late in some games he does a sterling job covering the left flank in front of Gibbs,all in all I think he was a wise signing and I have yet to see him swapping shirts at half time.

  70. HowardL

    Jan 14, 2014, 18:34 #44246

    Please lay off Ozil. We've seen his quality in the early games, just give him a chance to come good. Jack is spot on - it wasn't only Bobby who took time to settle; what about Thierry and Dennis? If he needs more time so be it. For me his signing lifted the club spirit from a team trying to win the 4th place trophy to genuine title contenders. Isn't that worth our Season Ticket alone? And once again, all the pundits seem in agreement that our football is a joy to watch. And last night, for 45 mins at least, it was again.

  71. Alsace Lorraine de totteridge

    Jan 14, 2014, 18:29 #44245

    Lambert shouted at them at half time and they got in our faces. We didn't wilt and we saw it out. Carzorla should have been replaced by Rosicky very early doors. The quality of the finishes,was absolutely excellent,JW particularly applying T Henry finishing- low to the ground and in the corner of the goal. The team will learn from the lack of control they suffered in the second half. Wenger needs to buy a striker and a centre back,end of.p

  72. lee afc

    Jan 14, 2014, 17:43 #44244

    I agree with west lower. I don't believe that we can start with ozil and santi. It's either or. But is it just a marriage of convenience until Ramsey comes back. Also, I agree with Roy...the two centre halves have been instrumental this season as to where we are in the league. It's no fluke ya know. Statistically, when kos and bfg have played 90 mins together, the win/loss ratio is something special.

  73. Roy

    Jan 14, 2014, 17:39 #44243

    Fair point, Terry. Let's hope Rambo picks up where he left off when he gets back. Although I always rated him, I never thought I'd see something like that from him after his injury, so credit where credits due. I wasn't one of those getting on his back last season. What's the conundrum with Ozil though ? Ok, so he's allowed an aclimiitisation period, but he's not influencing games like he should be, is he - wonder why that is ? Maybe he'll do a Rambo next season !

  74. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jan 14, 2014, 16:57 #44240

    John Abrehat, you forgot sticking his tongue out, and it's a big one but at least he did get on the sheet last night with a good goal lets hope we don't have to wait for another three or four games for him to do it again.

  75. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Jan 14, 2014, 16:49 #44239

    Everyone, no need to comment anymore on our title chances. Robbie Savage says we won't win it, so the discussion's over.

  76. Ron

    Jan 14, 2014, 16:25 #44238

    Jack and BADARSE - all good stuff and good comments. Jack - i hope Arsene isnt a bit precious about Ozil. We re probably both wrong mate!!

  77. BADARSE

    Jan 14, 2014, 15:39 #44237

    Once a side begins to relax mentally the performance drops. It usually isn't a conscious decision. Once the work rate dips by just a few per cent the game drifts away from a side. It is very difficult to step it up again. A goal back by the other team and you begin to run on sand. Had that Villa goal not counted for any reason they would probably not have sustained their push. Psychology of individuals can easily transfer to a collective attitude. We dug deep and it proved enough, thanks to all but especially Per and Kosh. What a pair!

  78. Jack

    Jan 14, 2014, 15:34 #44236

    Ron - That's fair comment, I take the comments about his attitude and I do get them, but I dont believe he has been as lazy as he has been perceived however his nonchalant demeanor does not help him at times. It's only my opinion but I dont think you can get away with having a passenger in a modern prem league team, and he wont remain in the team if wenger feels he isnt contributing off the ball. We all have our own feelings about Wenger, but he wont tolerate a lazy player, not at the moment.....maybe I am wrong.

  79. John Gooner

    Jan 14, 2014, 15:06 #44235

    @Jack - Poor performances can be forgiven, as you say, it's only his first season. What can't be forgiven is his attitude, it stinks! Just look at what Rosicky gives in every game and then ask yourself if you think Ozil is giving it his all. Perhaps he was expecting to be the best player in the squad when he arrived - Some shock to him when he met Ramsey and Wilshere with just as much ability, but 4 times the effort. This club is bigger than him and on current form Rosicky deserves the starting place.

  80. Roy

    Jan 14, 2014, 15:00 #44234

    Player of the season so far ? Very difficult to split them, but definitely between BFG and Kos. As good or better than any partnership out there and such a blessed relief after all this time to not be suffering heart trauma on almost every occasion the ball comes into our box ! Top stuff lads, let's keep it going.

  81. Ron

    Jan 14, 2014, 14:59 #44233

    Jack - all fair points. I cant see that Arsene is being slated though? Most bosses would have wanted Ozil or those that cd afford him at least. Youre right too in that his pass last night did its part to create the goal. Its his effort that lacking in my view. It doenst take long for a player to apply himself, though to excel,yes, it can take longer as he adjusts to the demands upon himself viz the PL fixture congestion etc. Ive seen him quite a bit now and for me, his effort is a fraction of what it was when he was with Real Madrid and he quite often looks aloof from his team mates now. The signs arent brilliant. I hope that youre right. You shouldnt condemn everybody for berating those players you mention either. Many of us never have. I and others might criticise some performances but not the player per se.

  82. Jack

    Jan 14, 2014, 14:50 #44232

    Wow.....am still blown away but some of the ridiculous comments about Ozil! Been here for 6 months, still adapting to the league and yet he is being slated, can we try to do his some justice and wait a bit longer before he used as another stick to beat the manager with? I can only guess at the thousands of cumulative hours of football watched by the contributors on this board but you would never know that based on certain comments. I would have thought that you would know enough to realise that we are not seeing near the best of him yet. Is it his fault he has a 42m fee round his neck? Why not do what our fans are great at! Lets vilify the player and do what we did to Ramsey, Koscielny, Mertesacker, Wilshere....that worked well didnt it! Anyone remember how useless Bobby was when he first signed......jesus wept, some of you lot have short memories! BTW who threaded a great pass to the Nacho man last night, who squared to JW for his goal....?

  83. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jan 14, 2014, 14:31 #44231

    rk, i'm sure it's been cashed long ago mate in case a stop was put on it.

  84. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jan 14, 2014, 14:12 #44230

    As the much used saying goes, we did what we had to do with no real problems even though we nearly let them back into it,was a bit of complacency/job done creeping in? very dangerous indeed if it was, and then as you say the resulting Alamo occurred but we held out well lets hope we can do it against some of the better teams coming up or better still don't put ourselves in that position in the first place. We got what we went for and we're back on top of the pile and as long as we can keep doing that we can stay there. And lets hope we have a manager willing to do everything in his power to enable us to do just that more easily, because as you say Kev there's no real margin for error at present.

  85. radfordkennedy

    Jan 14, 2014, 14:08 #44229

    John Gooner...absolutely right mate,I'm not down on the team I'm loving the fact were in a fight and punching but with the 10 games to go marker on the horizon my concern is that in my opinion Ozil is taking up a place in the team at the moment when we need guts and guile,I don't think for a minute AW would drop him he aint got the nerve to, which is a shame because for me a fully fit Rosicky would get the nod with young serge out wide and the ox playing as an old fashioned inside right that's just my thoughts you understand for what they're worth,but for me we can't carry someone whose not doing the business no matter what rep they come with

  86. Ron

    Jan 14, 2014, 13:46 #44228

    'an expensive Hleb, without the effort' - John Gooner. Ozil - In a nutshell matey.

  87. John Gooner

    Jan 14, 2014, 13:40 #44227

    Sure Cazorla was sloppy for their goal, but you've got to praise the quality of the cross from Lowton. Last night could/should have been Arsenal 2 - 2 Lowton-Benteke. It speaks volumes about our current defence that I no longer suffer serious emotional trauma every time we're a goal up with 15 mins to go. I recall another Villa game where we were 2-0 at half time and capitulated late in the second half to end up drawing, so - although Villa were fighting for 4th back then - I think we've come a long way defensively (stating the obvious perhaps). On a different note, Ozil needs to pull his finger out! Too many sloppy passes and cut-backs for a player of his reputed quality. All we've signed as far as I can see is an expensive Hleb, without the effort.

  88. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Jan 14, 2014, 12:58 #44226

    as Kevin points out we have seen AFC throw away 2-goal leads at Villa Park, most recently on Boxing Day 2008. No real danger of that happening with Per holding off Benteke most of the evening (not his fault for the goal). Carzola was dreadful, the overall performance was solid and Villa remain one of those irritating teams who just won't get relegated.

  89. GaryFootscrayAustralia

    Jan 14, 2014, 12:53 #44225

    @goonercolesyboy, I get where you're coming from. In the 1990/91 season there were plenty of ugly wins away against opponents that were of supposedly inferior quality (Sheff Utd) and draws against relegation candidates (Sunderland 0-0, earnt with a brilliant diving save to the left from David Seaman from Gary Owers at Roker, if memory serves me correctly). I didn't moan about how we got the points then, and being as we're up against two clubs using cash as steroids, as well as both having gained from some highyl dubious officiating recently, i'm not going to moan now either. Having said that, I definitely agree with all those who've posted regarding the purchase of a striker to support / compete with OG. I was going to say something flippant like "if only Kevin Phillips was ten years younger", but I highly doubt Arsene would consider him anyway - when he had the chance, he signed Francis Jeffers instead!

  90. Gaz

    Jan 14, 2014, 12:46 #44224

    Made it difficult for ourselves in the end but its hard to be overly critical when we've just retained top spot again-epecially in the face of chelsea and city starting to purr. Dont get me wrong-I've been-and still can be-as critical as they come but at some point we've got to just sit back and enjoy the ride. I mean lets be honest, if it does go 't*ts up' there'll be more than enough time to moan about it then!!!

  91. goonercolesyboy

    Jan 14, 2014, 11:57 #44223

    we win a game to go top of the league and still the negative posts come in...get a life.

  92. GoonerRon

    Jan 14, 2014, 11:57 #44222

    @ Bard - how did Citeh get on at Villa Park earlier in the season? So going away to a mid-table team after all of our rivals had won, controlling the vast majority of game, seeing out a bit if pressure to pick up three points isn't a sign of champions? Hmmm.

  93. Bard

    Jan 14, 2014, 11:49 #44221

    Gooner Ron if you think that performance against an abysmal Villa is evidence of a side seriously challenging for the title then I suggest you lie down in a darkened room. I'm all for suspending reason in the fact of reality but we need reinforcements. Westie the reason we didn't sign a striker in the summer isn't because we couldnt find one, it's because Arsenal's negotiating tactics are laughable.

  94. John Abrehart

    Jan 14, 2014, 11:45 #44220

    As much as I like the big Frenchman up front, it seems that his trademark stance is his two hands covering his face and head after yet another miss in front of goal. His awareness in front of goal is not good. We DO need another striker and I stick with Berbatov on a short contract. His quality might just sharpen Giroud up and give us a decent alternative for say one game out of three or as a sub as Bendtner is used at present. On a different note, to me the BFG should be made club captain forthwith. His last minute interceptions late in the game last night and up against two big forwards at that probably saved us two points. A risen Tony Adams if I ever saw one.

  95. Bob

    Jan 14, 2014, 11:19 #44219

    This report is way too kind.Villa are absolutely useless.This game should have been a 4 or 5.Think you are very kind on Giroud who missed 4 clear cut chances.We still need a top quality striker more than ever.For those who think the prem is the best league in the world there are 9 team below that pile of s**t Villa.We will finish top 4 but not top 2

  96. Ron

    Jan 14, 2014, 11:00 #44218

    R/K - ..... and you know what mate, i reckon Cazorla's shaking his head and laughing too along with his countrymen. Ive always thought SC is over rated, but his game has dropped a few notches further since MO joined. Like you, ive looked closely but struggle to see where all of the effusivness for MO comes from. Hes a cameo player and in english football its good to see at times, but isnt reliable or a consistently strong enough facet of any team. Im still of the view were a stick on for 3rd, but a possible runners up spot still beckons.

  97. chris dee

    Jan 14, 2014, 10:55 #44217

    City,Chelsea,Liverpool,Everton,United and Spurs all asked questions of Arsenal over the weekend. We answered last night. But harder questions will be asked as the season goes on and nerves begin to shred.I still get the feeling that the FA Cup is our route for a trophy,but maybe I'm getting influenced by the constant drip drip of the media 'experts' where it's a straight fight between the money freaks of Chelsea and City for the title.

  98. GoonerD

    Jan 14, 2014, 10:51 #44216

    Was it Dean Rusk who, as the Cuban missile crisis reached squeaky bum time and the Russian ships turned back, said "We've gone eyeball to eyeball, and the other fellow blinked first"? Words to that effect. We'll know soon enough whether this is just another season of p**s and wind from the Wenger boys.

  99. radfordkennedy

    Jan 14, 2014, 10:50 #44215

    If you go out to your back gardens tonight at 2am when all is still and quiet listen very carefully you will hear a very faint sound,this sound will have been carried on the trade winds from the western med thru through the straits around the bay up the atlantic through western approaches and along the channel where it will gently flow inland until it reaches London N5,what is this sound you ask,well its the sound of PEOPLE F*CKING LAUGHING WHILST STARING AT A 42 MILLION POUND F*CKING CHEQUE!!!!

  100. Ron

    Jan 14, 2014, 10:45 #44214

    Westie - Youre right in that a quality forward would have to be in place of Giroud with Giroud being the 'support'. Thats his true status at a big Club. I suspect that now he d leave if Arsenal bought a top marque striker, but he'd play at a lower level if he did and doubtless be a first choice. This is a result of playing one up top.If we re playing 2 he needs a quality marksmen (a Hernandez type if you like) to feed off him, but 2 up top now isnt a popular formation at many Clubs is it. I personally think Cazorla is way overrated. He does some good things every so often, but doesnt like the tough going and is very casual much of the time. Like you, i cant see a place for him if Ozil plays.

  101. GoonerRon

    Jan 14, 2014, 10:32 #44213

    @ Bard - an overly critical post. What has our performance last night got to do with troubling Chelsea/Citeh? We did enough to get the job done against the opponent in front of us. Would Citeh's performance against Newcastle (where yet another major decision went for them) trouble us? I've no idea and frankly it doesn't matter as we're not playing them yet.

  102. Westlower

    Jan 14, 2014, 10:29 #44212

    Last night was proof if any were needed that we lost at home to Villa on the opening day courtesy of ref Antony Taylor's two penalty awards & a red card for Kos. This abysmal official admitted he was 'coned'again by Sterling of Liverpool on Sunday. These mediocre refs are deciding the fate of too many games. The consensus of today's posts is that we should have blown Villa away with a big score. I'm heartened that we're missing chances and still winning. It tells me that this squad has scope for continued improvement. If we were putting all our chances away & only winning by the odd goal I would be seriously worried that a fall was imminent. On another day Giroud will put his headed chances away & why wouldn't he end up with 20+ goals this season? Who would drop him in favour an unknown striker that may be found in the transfer window. We couldn't find one of good enough quality in the summer, so what's changed? Would any top player, worthy of the name, be content to be Giroud's stand in? Obviously if Giroud picks up a long term injury by the end of the month that sentiment would change. We look a stronger team physically when Gnabry & Ox are on the field. I'd be more inclined to play Cazorla off the bench that start with him. More would be seen of Ozil if he wasn't sharing the same duties as Santi. For me, it's one or the other at the same time on the field.

  103. Bard

    Jan 14, 2014, 9:39 #44211

    Overly generous post Kev. They should have slaughtered Villa instead they ended up hanging on. Yes a good 3 points but not good enough to trouble Citeh or Chelsea. I agree Ron Giroud had 4 chances by my reckoning and put 1 away. We need a striker. It didn't matter last night but where's Ozil gone ? On the plus side thought jack looked back to his best.

  104. Gorgeous George

    Jan 14, 2014, 9:36 #44210

    Let me start by saying I like Giroud. He works hard and gets into some good goal-scoring positions even if his return from these opportunities is not as good as it might be. However, what frustrates me about him is that he is always looking to flick the ball off with his first touch. This is fine when the game is going well and we are pressing the opposition back with men bombing forward, but he needs to recognise the need for a more pragmatic approach sometimes. There were at least three or four occasions in the second half last night where he tried to flick the ball round the corner or lay it off to a team mate with his first touch (which is generally good, but is by no means perfect) when a better option would have been to use his strength to hold the ball up and let us get up the pitch. This isn’t really a criticism, just an observation of something I feel he needs to work on with the coaching team. Other than that, any away win the PL is a good one, especially when it takes us back to the top. Wins against Fulham, Southampton and Palace in our next three league games is vital if we are to be serious contenders.

  105. Mike

    Jan 14, 2014, 9:24 #44209

    People still waiting for the bubble to burst - we are top of the table. Long may it continue

  106. HowardLamb

    Jan 14, 2014, 9:11 #44208

    Excellent report, Kev. That game in 1998 was truly awful - both our goals from Dennis I recall before that idiot fell in. A late Christmas present from 'Santa' Cazorla was nearly our undoing this time but well fought Arsenal. Giroud's goal was 17 seconds after restart (but 59 secs after Jack's goal.

  107. GoonerRon

    Jan 14, 2014, 9:10 #44207

    Three points and job done. The balance of closing matches out vs complacency can be a fine line - I just believe we have a collective confidence in our ability to defend a lead and save Cazorla's error it would have been a comfortable last 15 minutes. Whilst we're talking about complacency - the fans don't help sometimes by singing 'we are top of the league' with over an hour of the game left. It baffles me why we do t leave chants like that until the three points are in the bag.

  108. Clive the Gooner

    Jan 14, 2014, 9:10 #44206

    Good win again though we got too complacent in the second half. Sloppy ball from Cazorla cost us a goal and was summed up by Mertesackers reaction. We need to get the balance right between not going too gung ho and just sitting back on a lead. Would like to know how Agbonlahor stayed on after smashing Rosicky in the face.

  109. Tony Evans

    Jan 14, 2014, 9:08 #44205

    A good win but annoying / worrying that Villa were allowed back in to a game in which they should have been dead and buried. The final 15 minutes plus the 6 minutes of injury time were uncomfortable to say the least, but on the positive side we held on for the win. During the awful 'Wengerlite' years, as I call them, our then usual powder-puff teams would have probably lost this match 3-2. So credit where it is due - Bouldy or a more pragmatic Wenger. I suppose it does not really matter - we should all just be pleased that common football sense is prevailing again at last and we have a defence.

  110. Dan h

    Jan 14, 2014, 8:45 #44204

    Took the foot off the gas 2nd half & the showboating short passes tail end of the 1st half was uneeded as the game was there to be killed off.Two crisp finishes for the goals the first very well worked.Nervy ending for sure but with big Per leading us at the back we seem to cope better than years past with the hoof into the box hail mary tactic!On to Saturday seems every game we are losing at least one player to injury really need to get some back fit.

  111. Gunner SA

    Jan 14, 2014, 8:39 #44203

    Glad for the three points. According to Skysports the two goals were 70 seconds apart. Mertesacker wasn't close enough to Benteke for his goal so I hope someone shouted at him too! PS Do any of the Arsenal players get along with Ozil (halftime)

  112. Ron

    Jan 14, 2014, 8:37 #44202

    We played well, though as you say Kev, we allowed Villa to garner some momentum 2nd half. There were players out there who thought it was 'job done' at HT and they relaxed 2nd half. Thats misplaced arrogance, thinking they could g'tee a shut out in an away match with 45 mins left when only one goal brings a match to life again, as it proved. Whether this happens by Wengers direction or by players choosing i dont know, but a Coach should address it before it happens. Relaxing is OK with 10 mins left in a game, at best. Either way it betrays a lack of killer instinct. Any win is a great win half way through the season, but that last night with a quality striker in the ranks could have been at least 3 or possibly a 4-0 win. Spoke to a few Villa fans pre game and they were expecting a mauling after half time. Wenger needs to address it. Its not an issue that Man C have is it and take a look at that goal difference.