All Will Come To He Who Waits?

Online Ed: Arsenal take all three points at home to Palace



All Will Come To He Who Waits?


Tony Pulis’s newly-organised Crystal Palace came to park the proverbial bus at Arsenal yesterday, a familiar phenomenon. Such games are a matter of waiting for the first home side goal to come, and hoping the opposition do not score against the run of play in the meantime. It can be frustrating, but Gooners have learned to be patient over the years.

The first half saw Wenger’s team create relatively few opportunities, the best of them being a chance for Nacho Monreal from the angle which the keeper saved with his legs. The left back had a similar opportunity to score against Southampton and perhaps the reason for his inclusion above Kieran Gibbs is the ability to make such runs. Defensively, at times he is caught out, although the same could be said of the Gibbs, so it is a difficult call for the manager.

Lukas Podolski made a rare league start in place of Serge Gnabry, and with a front quartet of the quality and experience of the number 9, Giroud, Ozil and Cazorla, it was difficult to envisage that Palace could keep a clean sheet for 90 minutes. Soon after the re-start, it was a deeper position that provided the breakthrough, although it was Cazorla who provided a delightful assist.

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain started the game in place of the suspended Mathieu Flamini, a change that might have been made anyway given that Palace were never likely to provide the attacking threat seen at Southampton. Certainly, the Ox provides greater balance to the midfield by getting forward in the way that Ramsey or Wilshere would from that position. A Flamini-Arteta axis is really one for the games where the team have to ensure they do not lose.

The manager sees deep midfield as a natural position for the Ox, and the argument was backed up by his performance in this fixture. However, one imagines the defensive and organizational side of his game needs development, and assuming he retains his place for the next couple of matches, we will have a far better idea how much work there is to do there. The suspicion is that Wilshere will be preferred if he is fit, which brings us onto another option for the position that has been ruled out, a certain Kim Kallstrom.

I was under the impression that the main purpose of the loan signing was because Aaron Ramsey had suffered a setback and would be missing for a further six weeks, a blow compounded by Mathieu Flamini’s suspension and understandable uncertainties about Jack Wilshere’s availability. Although on paper, the squad has an embarrassment of riches in deep central midfield, the reality is that for the series of key matches that are to follow in February and March, cover is needed. And now we have the story that the club knew about Kallstrom’s injury when the decision was made to sign him, one that will keep him out for at least six games. In the supporters’ forum that took place before the Palace game yesterday, fan representatives were told that Kallstrom has been purchased for the run-in. Really? Maybe they know more about the injuries to Ramsey and Wilshere than they are letting on, although ultimately, Kallstrom seems to be more of an Arteta-type of footballer. Anyway, there is much scratching of heads, an element of discontent and the whiff of total incompetence about this particular deal.

The perception that has arisen from the January window is that, within the club, there is no real point in taking on Manchester City and Chelsea this season by strengthening the squad, or a belief that as they are in contention up to this point, the current squad is strong enough to keep it up for the remaining matches. Yet, injuries to Ramsey and Wilshere are a concern, and surely, if the team were to lose either of Giroud or Mertesacker, it would be game over. It appears as if Arsène Wenger is prepared to gamble, safe in the knowledge that the perennial cushion of another season of Champions League football will soften the blow if his team do drop out of the title race. At the moment, with Arsenal sitting top of the table, then so far so good. However, the meek acceptance that the club cannot go toe to toe with richer rivals would be a real shame. Atletico Madrid are outperforming Barcelona and Real Madrid in La Liga. It can be done.

Back to the game and the Ox’s two finely taken goals. The second came about after some nice interplay with Giroud and provided the safety margin required. Palace rarely threatened, although at one goal down, could well have had an equalizer when Monreal let his man go at the back post. Szczesny saved to the relief of the home fans.

On the subject of supporters, credit to the Palace contingent for their constant chanting. Arsenal’s away support is excellent, but hats off to the Holmesdale Boys who really get behind their team even when things aren’t going their way. It should also be noted that, overall, Palace are not a carbon copy of Pulis’s Stoke. They seemed to play more football, although there were a couple of challenges that were ‘industrial’ to put it mildly. Still, these can happen in any game. There did not seem to be a policy of kicking lumps out of the Gunners.

There was an element of Arsenal playing at half pace at times, doing enough to win the game without busting a gut. That’s fair enough, although everyone accepts they will have to play better in the games to come. It was a case of job done, points in the bag, and looking at this evening’s game between Manchester City and Chelsea and hoping both teams can gain a point. Arsenal will drop points between now and the season’s end, but who they drop them to will determine their fate. They can probably afford to lose at Liverpool if they beat Manchester City and draw with Chelsea. However, not getting anything from their principal rivals at this time would probably leave them with too much to do.

The weeks that follow are going to be a critical period for this team. So far, the story of the season is one of winning matches they would be expected to, with very few cheap points dropped. It’s the games where they are the underdogs which present less of a case for champions in the making. They certainly have to beat Manchester United at home to convince anyone they have what it takes ahead of the tougher games in March. Positions of similar promise were achieved in 2008 and 2010, only for the team to implode, with key injuries a factor on both occasions. Let us hope it is not going to be another case of déjà vu.

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  1. Westlower

    Feb 04, 2014, 10:37 #45188

    @Finsbury Joe, It's your lucky day. An opportunity to gather riches beyond your wildest dreams. How would you spend your ill gotten gains? A yacht, flash car, flashier women??? All you have to do to acquire your new found wealth is 'invest' a bet in the next manager to be sacked in the PL. Timmy is a steal at 20/1. Only 3 in the queue in front of him, Laudrup, Hughton (what is it with ex-Spuds) & Meulensteen. Lose a couple more games and Daniel Troll's tolerance level will be severely tested. Close the door on your way out Timmy. Fill yer boots FJ!

  2. Chris

    Feb 04, 2014, 10:00 #45184

    Bard - My 4 year old probably thinks I've 'lost it on presents' since her birthday because I bought her a) something I could afford b) something that doesn't screw up our plans for a summer holiday (the pony was out) and c) something I thought she would actually enjoy in the long term rather than being this week's flavour of the er.. month. You don't sound much different to her. We're still top of the league, mate, in case that's escaped your notice.

  3. Ron

    Feb 04, 2014, 9:02 #45179

    Tony - In the early 60s. They had no rivals mate. Arsenal were slumbering. So were Utd. Chelsea were building a really good side that came to fruition in 64/5. City. Not there. Everton in decline. Liverpool just promoted. Burnley and a dying Wolves who were a shadow of their great sides were their 'rivals'. All this co incided with Tottenham and Billy Nick. Their golden period lasted about 5 years really and then the others just blew them away. S--t Club, ramshackle ground and appalling fans. Nothings changed and they do know it.

  4. Seven Kings Gooner

    Feb 04, 2014, 9:00 #45178

    I am with Ron on FJ, he's like a Shakespearean Fool, you need him around to make you realize how much better our lives are for being Gooners! However on a more serious note the way Mourinho unloaded Citeh last night shows he is warming to the task and proved yet again he is one of the best when it comes to key one off matches.

  5. Bard

    Feb 04, 2014, 8:46 #45172

    FJ: nice one. I dont buy your tottenham connection for one minute, you' re just a wind up merchant Joe. No self respecting Spud would waste their time posting on an Arsenal site. Chelsea buy Matic we buy a broken back Swede. The more we read about this the more bizarre the story. It's clear that Wenger has a real problem with transfers the rumours suggest he's a ditherer but also obsessed with 'cheap'. We were in for Hazard before Chelsea stepped in , the 35m they paid looks like a steal at the moment. The Swede saga is yet more evidence that he's lost it in the transfer market. I fancy us against Liverpool or at worst a draw. Apart from Suarez they don't have that much to worry us.

  6. Tony Evans

    Feb 04, 2014, 8:44 #45171

    Ron - Spurs are a bit of non-entity aren't they, and haven't been true rivals to Arsenal in virtually all my 40+ years of support. I suppose you had to put up with them in the 60s when they actually did have a decent side, but since then nothing apart from the odd cup run.

  7. Ron

    Feb 04, 2014, 8:31 #45170

    Tony. Old FJ is just a harmless wind up merchant. Hes not so bad really, but you're right to have pity ha. I just than my Dad mate that i was put on the right side of the rails. I always say that if Tottenham wasnt on the fringes of London, nobody wd mention the Club. As one who lives away from London for the last 32 years, i can say that very few really recognise Tottenham, you don't see spud shirts and the perception of Tottenham is pretty much the perception of a fairly nondescript club who don't threaten much and never have. They're a sort of 'Aston Villa of the South' if you like and i dont mean to disrespect the Villa who have many titles plus a european Cup and 8 FACS to their name, but have had it tough for 30 years or so. The spuds 13 coaches (i use the word loosely)in 15 years tells the full story though. To be honest FJ and most realistic spuds (there are a few i know) are aware that Tottenham are a bit of a joke club. Who else cd blow 90 odd million on a bunch of stiffs? Rock on Joe F. Arsenal cd be in league 2 and they d still be bigger than Tottenham matey!

  8. Tony Evans

    Feb 04, 2014, 8:18 #45169

    Finsbury Joe - The best retort to you is the fact that I thank my lucky stars that when, back in 1970, I was faced with the choice of which North London team to support I chose Arsenal. I might get hacked off with Wenger but thank God I had the good sense as a 10 year old to choose Arsenal over your sorry shower. The fact that you feel the need to post on to a Gooner site suggests to me that you wish your good self had made a better choice of which team to support. As Roy Keane so aptly said 'Spurs always let you down' and I bet you know that feeling all too well.

  9. Westlower

    Feb 04, 2014, 8:17 #45168

    @Finsbury Joe, Reality time Joe, here's an independent appraisal from the betting exchanges where Spurs are at this moment in time: Top 4, 7/2; Top 3. 13/1; Top 2. 31/1; PL Winner, 429/1. Knocked out of both domestic cups. Enjoy your Thursday evening games, that's Spurs season in a nutshell. Still you can look forward to yet another new manager arriving anytime soon!

  10. Mike

    Feb 04, 2014, 8:14 #45167

    The fact that Berbatov was released by a team desperately struggling at the bottom of the league and desperately struggling for goals speaks volumes about his character

  11. Westlower

    Feb 04, 2014, 7:37 #45166

    Stories of 'broken backs' have been well exaggerated for effect. Read a story on Sunday about a jockey who had a bad fall and felt he'd broken his neck. He had, but he then proceeded to ride in the very next race. I'm sure Gooner A.P McCOY would consider a micro fracture as nothing more than an irritating itch. KK's injury is not career threatening and was only detected by the most advanced sophisticated scanner. I'm sure the likes of McLintock & co played on unwittingly every week with such injuries. In those day's players kept quiet about minor injuries for fear of losing their appearance money bonus. How the world has changed!

  12. DW Thomas

    Feb 03, 2014, 23:52 #45164

    Good win, but then we should beat Palace shouldn't we? Liverpool is the bigger test. Win that and we are flying. Win again in the FA Cup and we are in a strong place reputation wise. I am most happy about our clean sheets. Sure goals and great passing are fun to watch, but the defense has been terrific. How is Sagna not signed yet? One of our best and most consistent performers when not breaking a leg twice! Give him half of Bendtner's salary! By the way, it was Rosicky not passing backwards that led to,the second goal. I love that guy and how his first instinct is to pass forward. This team is almost there, we might even win the league. With a top drawer striker to partner Giroud, we might even feared by all. Just read a good quote, the one about how no good sailor learned by sailing calm seas. Maybe our 9 years of failure has finally made this team hungry. Lets see how Anfield goes!

  13. Finsbury Joe

    Feb 03, 2014, 23:48 #45163

    The debacle of the broken backed Swede surely overshadows a hollow victory over a weak newly promoted team. As does Jose's wonderful tactical master class. I fear Steve boulds team will come up short due to wengers caution and tactical ineptitude. A very gloomy prognosis awaits. Wenger has set out his stall, his way, or no way, and the submissive board will follow like the gimps they are. Is this the only time in history a team with no squad depth in first place has made a single signing of a guy with a broken back? Still the good people on here know wenger will go to extremes to get somebody at low risk on the cheap

  14. Ron

    Feb 03, 2014, 23:30 #45162

    Westie/jeff - the liv game on the week end will be very telling for Arsenal. A win there and theres big momentum. Personally i cant see a win there this time. Its been a few years since we lost at Anfield. A draw on the cards ora narrow loss. If so, the dominoes might start to fall. Chelsea will have big momentum now. Will City wobble? They're a club who mastered 'the wobble' , 'the calamity' and the 'banana skin slip' many years ago. I still think City for top Chelsea 2nd and Arsenal 3rd. 4th and the rest? Who gives a toss!

  15. jeff wright

    Feb 03, 2014, 22:20 #45160

    The result was a bad one for us though because we still have to play Mourinho's pets away - and it's not as though Arsene the master of illusion is a shoo-in to out-fox the master of psychology.

  16. Westlower

    Feb 03, 2014, 21:56 #45158

    We stay top of the league, say, we stay top of the league. The pundit experts will have to think it out again! Ha!Ha!

  17. Ron

    Feb 03, 2014, 21:44 #45157

    FJ - Ha ha . Mines got a big pic of Cliff Jones on one side buddy and a black and white tele pic on the other. Spose the pics signify the only bit of glory you guys ever had. Sad really matey!!Keep em coming pal. Youre very welcome too.

  18. jeff wright

    Feb 03, 2014, 19:57 #45156

    Westie,I said 19 changes not different sides. I never said that I wanedt a Greek striker signed. I said that I would have preferred Berbatov - who is a moody brooding Bulgarian as far as I'm aware - and that was rather than an injured 31 year old Swede . Wenger signed him as a sop due to supporter pressure once again revealing that he reacts to events rather than making them happpen.His view that that City will fade away and he already has the players to take advantage is just more la la land nonsense from the master of illusion. Pellegrini knows if he beats Chelsea tonight that it is in reality game set and match . Predictable results were we lost at United,drew with Chelsea at home and lost to City away. We spuds at home,dodgier away though,draw with Everton despite all of the we are better this season hype,draw with Southampton same old excuses served up... Liverpool away ... should be 3 points with their dodgy defence and taking account of the fact that the win over them along with the fact that we easily beat them earlier to add some confidence to our task . So I will go for deja vu last season's result and for us to win at Anfield. It looks like perm banker for the weekend's coupon!

  19. Westlower

    Feb 03, 2014, 19:49 #45155

    @Jeff, I just heard Ed Chamberlin comment that there's been 19 different PL leaders. Can only think it's Sky sensationalism alive & well. As AFC led the table from Sep 14th & have only been replaced on 2 occasions since (3 if City win tonight). My source of info is the Arsenal programme, not SKY. Perhaps Sky count the league position on Saturday before the weekends fixtures are completed on Sunday/Monday.

  20. HowardL

    Feb 03, 2014, 19:44 #45154

    Good analysis Kev but surprisingly no mention of another majestic performance from Kos. He's even cut out the penalties and own goals and is another key player who we desperately cannot afford to lose. Outstanding partnership with the BFG.

  21. Man United Killer

    Feb 03, 2014, 19:31 #45153

    Is Ozil allergic to shooting? I don't know why he would rather pass to someone even when he is in a better position.He had two opportunities to shoot yesterday.He squared it and we lost the ball.It didn't cost us yesterday but it will in due time.

  22. Finsbury Joe

    Feb 03, 2014, 19:21 #45152

    I bet Ron, Bard, Tony Evans, Geoff and Green Hut like myself are really big Spurs guys in disguise. It's time to come out of the closet. I bet Ron even drinks out of a Glory glory mug.

  23. Westlower

    Feb 03, 2014, 18:37 #45151

    @Jeff, Contrary to your assertion that there has been 19 different leaders of the PL, here is Arsenal's positions so far this season: 18, 9, 4, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1. Please advise of the 2% of AFC games that are not predictable as I could make a fortune punting the 98% of results that are predictable. So far 17 different players have scored for the first team. Thankfully we are not reliant on an Ian Wright type striker as the goals are shared through the team. Would you really want a Greek striker leading our attack?

  24. Alsace Lorraine de Totteridge

    Feb 03, 2014, 18:32 #45150

    Whilst I am emotionally in the same camp as Lord Evans and other doomsayers, the fact is that a tough defence is giving us something to play off, with and for. Of course Wenger is a liability but he is not actually obstructing success and for this relief much thanks. He isn't helping either, but I never expected that. Do this team have the nuts to go head to head with Chelsea, Man City and Laverpule? I believe that they do. They have guts. They have determination and they are very clearly enjoying themselves and the competence which they are displaying. We need at least one player on the pitch that drives us forward though. We need Rosicky on the park because whilst he participates in the tippy tappy stuff, he runs at defences. Chamberlain punched a hole in Palace, but in the same way as we need a good defence, we need a confident attack. The really exciting thing is that our team might find the confidence to smack the all conquering enemy. That has not been a possibility for a very long time. Alos if you had a bloke with Podolski's shot, wouldn't you make it a task to get him into any sort of clear shooting position?

  25. Highbury Boy

    Feb 03, 2014, 18:17 #45149

    @ All Too Clinical - You say "invest" but in reality it's "speculate" . The Board and Wenger agreed to spend big on Ozil after the opening day defeat and in this January window would have only been in the market if the CL place was at risk. This place is worth £25m minimum plus the global goodwill which enhances the brand thus boosting deals like Puma. The cheap Kallstrom option came up as late as last Wed night as cover after Ramsey's injury looked worse coupled with Flamini's sending off. Otherwise except for hunting around for a bargain nothing would have been done on the buying side. Loaning out more deadwood and youngsters has helped reduce the wage bill. Wenger looks likely to once again meet the Board's objective of a CL spot. Anything above that is regarded as a bonus. Winning a trophy is for fans.

  26. maguiresbridge gooner

    Feb 03, 2014, 17:49 #45148

    Tony Evans, it's called an egoist.

  27. All too clinical and thought through

    Feb 03, 2014, 17:46 #45147

    I think we should be ok for 4th but i dont think this squad is special enough to do more than that. at best we are a 3rd and certainly for CL by early April instead of last game of season so on a nett basis we spent 40m and we improved. however this was the season to really have a go due to new managers chels city utd. i mean really invest and really have a go.

  28. Green Hut

    Feb 03, 2014, 17:37 #45146

    Any league where you are top/one point off the top with 14 games to go is winnable, no matter the opposition or venues of the remaining games, but once again Wenger has ended the January transfer window not giving us the best chance of succeeding. Since the failure to lure the realistically out-of-reach Suarez or the eminently getable Higuain in August, he has had 4 months to identify various alternative targets and a month to negotiate a deal for one of them, whilst all the time Giroud's decent form and fitness made his job easier by reducing the need for a big money big name signing and necessitating merely an experienced centre-forward better than Bendtner to help carry the burden of the run-in. But nothing. Unless the press made it all up, the fact that we were linked with Vucinic and Klose in the last week shows that Wenger is acutely aware of our deficiences up front and it's not just the imagination of those of us who haven't worked a day in football management, which makes it all the more disappointing that given the time and resources available to Wenger the gap wasn't plugged. Hey, maybe Bendtner will morph into half the player that he thinks he is, and if Demichelis keeps playing at centre-half for City any team brave enough to attack them will have half a chance. We could also of course, have spent £100m and still not won the league, but if we do happen to fall short again this year we'll never know whether reasonable, sensible investment in January would have taken us over the line. And I'm sick of that feeling.

  29. Bard

    Feb 03, 2014, 17:21 #45145

    Mike: I'd have taken a punt on the Greek striker, I'd have tried to sign Costa by dangling 50m in front of them and see if were interested. But as I said if I don't have world scouting network to hand.

  30. jeff wright

    Feb 03, 2014, 17:19 #45144

    The top of the league has been like a game of musical chairs with 19 different changes so far. Using our part in it to claim that there is nothing to complain about is just an excuse to try and deflect criticism away from the claims that it will all end up as usual come May . Or more likely before then. Some of said before the last transfer window opened that signing a top striker would be difficult and unlikely ,the reality is that Wenger should have done it last summer but he made a hash of it the late late signing of Ozil made no difference to that. Personally I would have preferred Brbatov to a injured 31 year old midfield player . Money though was what spoke and Wenger soon to be on 8m a year wages was more concerned about saving some of it then anything else. League titles come at a cost but Wenger and Stan are trying to buy one on the cheap.

  31. Ron

    Feb 03, 2014, 17:16 #45143

    Jim - Thers a detachment between what the Club says its trying to do and what it actually does to try and achieve it. Years of spin has been seen through really. The 31 year old with a dodgy back and the ludicrous explanation for it coming off the back of 9 years of failure has simply made the scepticism that you see even more acute. The team do deserve credit as you say, but im of the inkling theyve done it themselves and despite Mr Wenger rather than due much to his input. At this juncture, it needed some impetus from the top and hes failed to provide it or it looks that way to me.

  32. Jim

    Feb 03, 2014, 17:04 #45142

    The non-stop moaning in a season in which we have been top of the league for two-thirds of the time is a joke. What strikers were available, Berbatov? His attitude has been so bad that Fulham would rather giveaway their top scorer for free, than keep him for the relegation fight. Mitroglu, who Kevin called for on Friday, is a gamble, and if it doesn't pay off, we are stuck paying his wages four years. And Kevin would be the first to let us know about this. Giroud is the ultimate team player, and leads the line brilliantly, but of the 47 league goals we have scored this season, he has scored 10 and assisted 4. This isn't the sort of dependence we have had on strikers in the past - Wrighty, Henry, Adebayor and RVP. Our team since RVP left has been based on everyone chipping, and a much better organized defense. Don't get me wrong, I wanted us to sign a striker, as well, but Chelsea need a striker too, and in two transfer windows have only come up with Eto'o. We are well in the title race, why complain every single week? You're just waiting for us to lose a game so you can jump all over the team.

  33. jeff wright

    Feb 03, 2014, 16:53 #45141

    There are more stats Mike flying about on here than there are pigeons in Trafalgar square! I put our clean sheets down to having an improved GK . We wouldn't have so many with Almunia in goal - or with Chesney either when he was inexperienced. Let's hope he stays fit or it's Flappy back flapping about like a line of washing in the wind.

  34. Mike

    Feb 03, 2014, 16:46 #45140

    Hi Jeff, yeah, but there was stat going around saying that last night was the sixth/seventh home clean sheet in a row which is some kind of record? and @Bard - name one striker available better than what we have.(Padolski)

  35. Bard

    Feb 03, 2014, 16:36 #45139

    Mike: of course you didn't hear of any decent strikers that's because you aren't the 6th or 7th richest club and don't spend millions on tracking talent around the world. Mind you if all he can come up with is Kallstrum and his dodgey back then god help the rest of the scouting network.

  36. jeff wright

    Feb 03, 2014, 16:02 #45137

    Mike,Chelsea have the best defence in the league at present,it's a yo-yo thing between us and them from game to game They will need to keep a clean sheet though tonight to maintain it.

  37. jeff wright

    Feb 03, 2014, 15:48 #45136

    Westie, 98%of our results are predictable. Most of them are deja vu last season . As I have pointed out before our rsults are no better overall than last term and cobbling together stats over a calendar year doesn't make them so. There is no difference between finishing 2nd or the only advantage is avoiding the pesky qualifier CL tie that 4th place produces. Hopefully we can avoid this. Wenger's title challenge is just another illusion that will fade away like a mirage again because the strength in depth to challenge for the title is just not there . I stopped doing blind faith optimism in Wenger 5 years ago and see no reason why I should start doing so again. Anyway,I expect City to win tonight to end Chelsea's title hopes and to put another big dent in our ones . While it's still mathematically possible to win the Prem Wenger's charade will continue to be played out . Last season he claimed that our run of results over the last 10 games to snatch 4th spot had been exciting and this says it all really about how he now views the Prem these days. I had to smile on hearing his excuses for the Kallstrom shambles. If he was left with no choice as he claims but to sign an injured 31 year old midfield player as a last resort - albeit with us crying out for another striker - then it doesn't say much for his management skills or the fools like Law and Ivan the useless who assist him either.

  38. Westlower

    Feb 03, 2014, 15:43 #45135

    Looking further ahead at the fixtures for Man City & Chelsea, Chelsea has the easier run in with only two difficult looking games against AFC (H) 22/3 & Liverpool (A) 26/4. Man City have to play Man U (H) 25/3, AFC (A) 29/3 & Liverpool (A) 12/4. Obviously a draw tonight would suit AFC best, if not a Man City win would be preferable. Liverpool will struggle to hang on to 4th spot given they play all the top 3 sides + Man U (A).

  39. Mike

    Feb 03, 2014, 15:23 #45133

    There are no easy games - just ask Man Utd and Chelsea after last week. Despite all the doubters Arsenal have kept answering the questions and are still in the mix. The first critical period was meant to be the Christmas period and where did they end up after that. Realistically there are three teams in the race at the moment and Arsenal is still the dark horse - a dark horse that has the best defence in the league - also I did not hear of any useful striker being made avaiable for transfer

  40. Bard

    Feb 03, 2014, 14:56 #45132

    After all the jockeying for position we're at that critical point of the season. I would like to feel optimistic but with top class games coming thick and fast you look at the squads depth. It's thin and 2 tough games a week will eventually do for us. As Kev has rightly pointed out a lack of reinforcements suggests he's not really going for it. So maybe all our febrile speculations are for nought. All will be revealed shortly.

  41. maguiresbridge gooner

    Feb 03, 2014, 14:51 #45131

    Robbie, are you having a laugh mate he's had that many burns he doesn't feel them anymore.

  42. ZB20H

    Feb 03, 2014, 14:37 #45130

    Arsenal's current record of 17 wins in 24 games is a record that the club themselves have never bettered, matched only by the Invincibles season of 2003/4 - still, nothing will ever be good enough for some of the people on this website.

  43. Highbury Boy

    Feb 03, 2014, 14:32 #45129

    Another good post Kev. Wenger's explanatory comments on the Kallstrum situation are illuminating. These show the Economics side of him coming out as it's hard for him to turn down the offer of an experienced international midfielder at no loan fee and only pay wages after 6 weeks. Clearly he wanted an immediate back-up for Ramsey,Wilshere and Flamini but at that late stage he wasn't going to turn Kallstrum away taking into account all Arsenal's midfielders have had injury problems this season and Ramsey and Wilshere in particular always take longer to recover than first predicted. Although the Board must love his attitude of trying to get value for money I get the impression that he doesn't just say at an early stage who he wants leaving it to his negotiating team but needs to be very involved. The Dein/Wenger duo worked much better. As everyone says the next few games are very tough. Interestingly after Liverpool away the next 8 games produced 4 losses and 4 draws last season. Coming out of those games will really show whether our improvement is illusory.

  44. Gus Caesar's Curvaceous Bottom

    Feb 03, 2014, 14:00 #45127

    @Westlower - I enjoy and admire your continued optimism, I really do, it makes a refreshing change from the all too familiar diatribes of negativity that frequent this messageboard and the forums within. However, having a realistic approach to the remainder of the season does not 'conditional' supporters make. Recent history shows that we have a poor record against bigger teams, this season being no exception - It's not unreasonable for us to fear the worst in the upcoming games, even with my optimistic head the best I can see league wise is draws against city and liverpool, a defeat to chelsea, and perhaps a win over Man United. In the grand scheme of things, that might well still leave us very much in the mix come March, and after that who knows, especially with our new star signing to come into the fold around that time...

  45. maguiresbridge gooner

    Feb 03, 2014, 13:56 #45126

    This fixture certainly came at the right time for OGL, the mighty eagles at home, and a routine win with a fine brace from the ox, and the fact the two cart horses not getting on the score sheet, helping to cover up his incompetence in the transfer market (micro fracture you couldn't make it up oh but we don't have to, whats the betting he never kicks a ball in anger for us?)and keeping the lambs and his disciples happy.Another three points we/as expected, at the right time and they've put us top again, now all we need is for no interference from all the dark forces that are against Arsenal and a draw tonight and we're on our way again.

  46. Red Tav

    Feb 03, 2014, 13:52 #45125

    You can only beat what's in front of you and a good 3 points secured. Well taken goals by the Ox, nice to have him back in the swing of things, how important he could be... I think a City win is more likely tonight but if any team is equipped to get a point up there it's the chavs. If they do lose though, I hope they get hammered, Goal difference doesn't matter any more after all. As Kevin says, brilliant support from the Palace fans, an absolute credit to their club.

  47. Tony Evans

    Feb 03, 2014, 13:46 #45123

    The game itself was a fairly routine win that gets us top spot again, but my over-riding feeling is that it will be yet another season of so near and yet so far after another dreadful transfer window. I am left wondering exactly what goes on in Wenger's head. He seems to take great delight in building our hopes up only to press the self destruct button when it comes to strengthening the squad for the title run in. A striker was the bare minimum, although a central defender wouldn't have gone amiss too and yet we end up with an injured midfielder, with Wenger bleating about a lack of time. Has anyone told him that the transfer window starts on the 1st and not the 31st! You really could not make it up and with the Liverpool FA cup match now a category B game you have to ask yourself the question is he going to sacrifice that one again in his hopeless pursuit of the CL? The man does my head in as they say but I will try and keep my hopes up in spite of him, rather like I am sure the team does.

  48. John Gooner

    Feb 03, 2014, 13:40 #45122

    Good analysis Kevin thanks. Westlower, much like with our signings where you don't believe it will happen until you see them in an Arsenal shirt, many of us 'conditional supporters' won't believe until we see a trophy in TV5's hands. I will cheer the team on with my last breath, but I won't do blind faith. I do however appreciate your optimism and always will.

  49. King Jeremy

    Feb 03, 2014, 13:30 #45120

    @Westlower - the answer to your question is a minimum of 4 points from the next two games for a start. We may be top and you are correct to point out the gap between us and Man U & "them", but we have taken 1 point from 9 against the traditional "big three" of City, United and Chelsea. Against United we lacked the necessary quality up front. Against City we got spanked good and proper, and don't be fooled by the point against Chelsea - Jose had us right where he wanted us. I said at the start of the season that the paucity of the squad would catch up with us and I still believe that. The Summer was a farce, rescued in part at the last minute by Ozil's arrival, however January has been yet another omnishambles. If Wenger believes now that the squad is too thin for the run-in, why was nothing done about that in the Summer? I will continue to support the club whatever comes in the next few months - I just won't be getting my hopes up until the end of March is all!

  50. Ron

    Feb 03, 2014, 13:25 #45119

    Good post Kev as the norm. Youre right i think that the Club privately dont think the titles winnable. Its the old story, such is football, if a Club can get top 4 regularly its gets CL entry and a few days out in that, a shedload of cash too. The cost of getting a team from 4th to first is so high, is it woth bothering, just to say "we are the Champions"? I can understand the view, but its a sad outlook and its why football is now so sterile for Clubs like Arsenal. Living in a constant 'no mans land' and cant venture from it to even try the taste of a little bit of cut price glory in the Cups, for fear the top 4 holy grail is allowed to fall off the shelf. Its a poor lot in my view.

  51. Westlower

    Feb 03, 2014, 13:06 #45115

    @Jeff, It may have escaped your notice but we've had 17 wins against opponents we're expected to beat. In fact this is one of the best winning/games runs in the history of AFC. Predicting what can happen next is not important but believing what can happen next is! I'm puzzled why so many Gooners still don't believe in this squad. What is it going to take for you to dispense of your conditional support? 15 points clear of Man U, 11 points clear of big spending Spurs, what's not to like? Will you drop off the fence should we win the next 14 games? There are no written guarantees in this life but I confidently predict we'll win more games than we lose from here on in!

  52. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Feb 03, 2014, 13:01 #45114

    I must say I was surprised that Palace actually look a lot more organised and play a lot better football than Pulis' previous loveable outfit. The team did as it has done for much of this season, namely raised its game enough to secure 3 points. A win is a win is a win. The next 3 weeks are critical for the rest of the season though.

  53. Savage

    Feb 03, 2014, 12:59 #45113

    Wenger's logic for signing Kallstrom was correct, but it did not excuse the fact he moved too late in the market. Hopefully the experience has burned him.

  54. jeff wright

    Feb 03, 2014, 12:09 #45106

    It was great to see AOC score that brace against boring Palace the goals from the Ox were long overdue with his last one way back in December 2012 ! Doesn't time fly. My advice to some on here who always appear on shouting the odds , in what looks like a touch of relief in reality , after an expected routine win over lower opposition is to come on before the games against better opponents and give us your predictions. How about starting with Liverpool , hindsight is a wonderful thing. Tonight's game between the heavy odds on title favourites City at 8/13 and second faves Chelsea 7/2 shots looks like a home win on form . A win for City would leave them top of the league and only needing to match our results for the remainder of the season to win it. A win for Chelsea would improve their hopes while a draw would be in our favour if Jose's parked bus can hold off the City onslaught. I can't see it myself but stranger things have happened - ask Fat '19th century football tactician' Fat Sam about it.

  55. Bard

    Feb 03, 2014, 11:44 #45102

    Fair post Kev: the Ox did really well and Santi's pass for the first was sublime. I had to rewind the Wenger interview after the game as I couldnt believe it first time. He bought Kallstrom as cover for the injured players but he's actually injured which he knew and may not be available till the end of Feb or mid March. You couldn't make it up.

  56. GoonerD

    Feb 03, 2014, 10:47 #45098

    It's a bit like maths GCSE. A student can get a grade A without needing to understand algebra - the tough stuff. On the other hand, the student who gets algebra has a good chance of an A*. Arsenal can get enough points to get a grade A, but Citeh can get more points - enough for an A star. In the end, the side withy the most points wins, and Citeh are capable of getting more points than Arsenal. This is Citeh's title to lose.

  57. Gunner SA

    Feb 03, 2014, 10:44 #45096

    Good three points but have to cut out the sloppy passing in midfield. Gibbs needs to start ahead of Monreal as he's better defensively (don't really care about attacking runs and Monreal didn't take his chance yesterday). I want Chelsea to beat Man City tonight Kev as there will be more of a cushion for Arsenal (albeit through goal difference). A point at Anfield, let's be positive.

  58. GoonerRon

    Feb 03, 2014, 10:42 #45095

    Another win, another clean sheet, our strong run since Citeh away continues. Ox's performance was massively encouraging - a good point Kevin about the balance he brought to the central area - we have looked better with a 'progressive' midfielder (Ramsey, Wilshere or Ox) alongside one of Arteta or Flamini. If Wenger said it he would be lynched but he is like a new signing in terms of being a genuine option as a central midfielder, especially as he offers something different to the other players in contention. Let's not get carried away with him just yet, although sometimes circumstances conspire (i.e. lots of injuries/suspension in the same position) to give an opportunity to someone who takes it with both hands. MASSIVE couple of weeks coming up, can't wait to get to Anfield and sing the boys to a victory.