Three options for the summer

How Arsenal should improve their current squad



Three options for the summer

Mandzukic: Will he be on the move?


After the opening day debacle against Aston Villa, few would have expected Arsenal to be challenging for the title, and at the time of writing, top of the Premier League. The incredible surge in form is put down by many largely to the arrival of Mesut Özil; the playmaker has undoubtedly massively benefitted Arsenal from his arrival on deadline day, contributing 4 goals and 8 assists in the Premier League thus far.

The defence appeared to flourish at the tail end of last season, conceding only 5 goals in the final 10 games of the season. I believe this is down a few things; firstly, dropping Wojiech Szczesny proved to be a masterstroke, as not only was Lukasz Fabianski a more than capable deputy, it also appeared to raise Szczesny’s game at the start of this season, with the Pole having kept 11 clean sheets already this season. Secondly, the consistency in the centre of defence has proved invaluable, with Laurent Koscielny and Per Mertesacker seeming to complement each other superbly. Koscielny is the athlete, who can win the ball high up the pitch, rarely giving opposition strikers enough space to be efficient with; he’s also, in my view, one of the best defenders in the world when defending a player one on one. Mertesacker is less athletic, but more organisational; a colossus in the air and very elegant on the ball, he more than makes up for his lack of speed with his superb anticipation. With the once shaky defence now well and truly sorted and keeping more clean sheets than anyone else, and the occasional problems of creativity gone with the introduction of Mesut Özil, one must ask how do Arsenal improve further, to truly re-establish themselves as one of Europe’s elite?

Unfortunately for Olivier Giroud, the answer seems clear. Arsenal’s striker is their weak point, and this is something that has been highlighted frequently this season. Just to be clear, I do like Giroud and his style of play; his hold up play is often superb, his defensive contribution is very important from set pieces, and he is a far better finisher than some suggest (Giroud is currently the 6th highest scorer in the Premier League). Having said that, he must be improved upon; in the simplest terms, Giroud is a good striker, not a great one, and to take the next step required, Arsenal need an upgrade, or least someone to seriously compete with Giroud. Lukas Podolski has been tried there, and his movement and hold up play were virtually non-existent. Theo Walcott’s movement is better than Podolski’s but his hold up play is even worse, meaning he is an unlikely candidate to play striker for Arsenal in the current system. Wenger tried to offload Bendtner in summer, and whilst Yaya Sanogo may turn out to be a good player, he is currently injured and does not look ready for first team football. Whilst I think Wenger was correct to not sign a striker in January, as the quality of striker available was not of the highest, I feel it important that he makes a move in the summer for someone to start regularly next season. I’ve suggested three potential signings below.

Adrián Ramos
Currently at Hertha Berlin, Ramos has been a revelation this season. He has hit the back of the net 12 times in the Bundesliga this season, and is an extremely well rounded player. His finishing is better than Giroud’s, although his link up play may not be as effective as the Frenchman’s. Ramos’s dribbling is superior to Giroud’s, making him a far less predictable player, and one who Wenger would be interested in. Probably the cheapest of the three options, it would be interesting to see how he would cope with the step up.

Diego Costa
Costa has been a machine in front of goal recently, scoring a sensational 20 goals in 22 games in La Liga this season. The eccentric centre forward finishes chances with ease and has probably been the stand out player from what has been a superb Atletico Madrid season, with them currently top of La Liga. His aerial ability is slightly overrated in my view, but what makes him stand out from the other potential targets is not only his goal scoring, but also his passing, often creating as well as scoring. Costa has announced he intends to play for Spain this year at the World Cup, and is sure to attract the attention of many other top clubs. With a release clause of £32 million, he’s expensive but he may well prove to be worth it over coming seasons.

Mario Mandzukic
With Robert’s Lewandowski’s transfer from Dortmund to Bayern Munich all but confirmed, one wonders what the future holds for the current main striker of the Bavarian club, Mario Mandzukic. It is unlikely the Croat will want to play second fiddle, and a move away from the current European Cup holders may well be on the cards. Mandzukic signed for Munich in 2012 after an impressive showing at the European Championships, and has 11 Bundesliga goals this season. One of the best forwards in the world aerially, his link up play, in the air or on the ground is generally excellent, making him seem a very viable upgrade on Olivier Giroud. Whether Bayern Munich would be willing to sell Mandzukic remains to be seen.

I would not like this piece to be seen as me slating Olivier Giroud; as I stated earlier, I believe he is a good striker, but I also believe that centre-forward is currently the weakest position in the squad. Following that logic, I would love to see one of the three strikers I have mentioned brought in, with Giroud kept in the capacity of a backup striker, giving Arsenal better options up front.

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  1. Pacey1984

    Feb 09, 2014, 19:52 #45547

    Let's face it lads, we won't sign any of these players. We'll get Djorou back from loan, tie down Bendtner to an extension and make a deadline day swoop for for a 12 year old African goat herder.

  2. Westlower

    Feb 08, 2014, 18:29 #45435

    Worst performance of the season by some way. Both at Anfield & Southampton we weren't at the races in the early exchanges. The midfield were woeful, giving the ball away with sloppy passing. Hopefully this is a real kick up the backside for all the players. Only Ox earned his money today. This team owes the poor devils who traveled to Liverpool a much better showing on Wednesday. In recent games we seem to have adopted a patient approach to teams who park the bus but we have to be more dynamic against the better teams. The double team of 70/71 lost 0-5 to Stoke and then went on a run of 14 unbeaten, the same is required again! It was good Man City drop two careless points and it shows even with their mega bucks forward line it only takes a couple of key players missing to reduce them to ordinary. Only Chelsea with their powerful midfield protection of the back four seem equipped to get a result at Anfield.

  3. maguiresbridge gooner

    Feb 08, 2014, 18:18 #45432

    DW Thomas, you said it, the old has been said we were naive but i'm sure he doesn't include himself in that even though he should be top of the list.

  4. DW Thomas

    Feb 08, 2014, 16:08 #45428

    What a joke of a game! Our best two defenders looked like school children and this teams "mental toughness" was embarrassing. If we had Suarez we would have run away with the league. Give me Sterling over Theo any day. Ozil looked like he couldn't be bothered. What is it with this club? The title is there for the taking and we not only bottle it, we ship 4 goals in the opening 18 minutes! And Arteta looked 80 years old again! Wenger can't beat the top teams when it's worth something with the pressure on! Coutinho was the unsung hero and ven Kolo had a great through ball against our backs. Oh and what can Giroud offer? He needs so many chances to score and can't handle pressure witness ball on his foot. Did you happen to see Suarez's shot off the bar? Yeah, we could have had him, maybe. We'll never know thanks that cheeky bid. The first wheel is off!

  5. Moscow Gooner

    Feb 08, 2014, 15:34 #45425

    'China Loves Arsenal'!! Is this good news or bad news? The continued 'globalisation' of the club with increasing alienation of the hard core 'local' support? As for Liverpool: AW is a great manager but not THE greatest Arsenal manager - nor the best manager for the future. The inevitable question then is who should replace him: no easy answers but that's not an excuse to put off the moment of truth and slip into a Moyes/Ferguson type of scenario (or looking further back to a different Utd era, Busby to O'Farrell, McGuiness, Docherty etc etc). All this said I think we will bounce back - in the short term - three wins against Utd., Liverpool and Bayern. Ultimately the Cup game next Sunday may turn out to mean the most for our season....

  6. John Gooner

    Feb 08, 2014, 14:45 #45423

    Cue the usual February collapse, right on time! 9 trophyless years and let's make that 12 thanks to the Wenger sycophants. WENGER OUT, WENGER OUT, WENGER OUT, WENGER OUT!

  7. Silly Billy

    Feb 08, 2014, 13:44 #45422

    never mind chesnay we or the top in china

  8. underacheiver

    Feb 08, 2014, 13:39 #45421

    Looking forward to the Wenger Acolytes telling us how the team let him down.

  9. Gav Lee

    Feb 08, 2014, 13:23 #45420

    Two words: Wenger out Thanks

  10. I had to turn off after 20 mins it was like a Horror film

    Feb 08, 2014, 13:16 #45419

    do you now see what I have been saying about Wenger against the top teams ?? he does not want to compete with them and he cannot. does not have the personality and doesn't want to spend the cash. Gibbs up for a fight or Mon-unreal ?? Rosicky running hard and tacking or Jack strolling around ?? this was Liverpool away and a draw was good. ****ing crazy please people out there start understanding what wenger is really about

  11. China Loves Arsenal

    Feb 08, 2014, 11:12 #45418

    In the biggest ever study of its kind, nearly 16,000 football fans from across China were surveyed online via one of the countrys most popular social media sites, and were asked to identify their favourite teams at club and national level, as well as their favourite league. Arsenal edges Manchester United to top the list of most popular clubs amongst fans, the Gunners being selected by 3,785 respondents to Uniteds 3,210. AC Milan are the third most popular club in China (with 2,204 respondents) followed by Real Madrid (1,959 respondents) and Barcelona (1,930).

  12. Mike

    Feb 08, 2014, 9:56 #45417

    Saw and interesting table the other day which looked at the Murinho/Wenger battles in a different light - granted that Arsenal have never beaten Chelsea under Murinho, the special one has taken substantially less premier league points from Arsenal than of the other top 4 or 5 teams. (inclusive of City, United and Liverpool) - so maybe he does not quite the upper hand that everyone thinks

  13. Westlower

    Feb 08, 2014, 8:05 #45416

    Racing Posts best football tipster Kevin Pullein has estimated AFC's chances of winning their next 4 games, Liverpool x2, Man U & B Munich: 2% chance of winning all 4; 12% chance of winning 3; 33% chance of winning 2; 38% chance of winning 1; 15% chance of winning none.

  14. maguiresbridge gooner

    Feb 08, 2014, 0:21 #45415

    seems i pressed the wrong button with my last post and only got an m.

  15. m

    Feb 08, 2014, 0:10 #45414

    DW Thomas it's a pity he didn't have the proper defence behind him either.

  16. DW Thomas

    Feb 08, 2014, 0:05 #45413

    My point about Agbonlahor was that there are many decent quick craft strikers out there that could compliment Giroud. If we do make some use of Bendtner, what about trying him up top with Giroud and then get in 100 crosses for them to finish off? But, seriously, with Ozil, Rosicky,and Jack we have midfielders who can spring that quick type of striker. Even Rambo was getting a taste for that split the defense kind of pass. Cesc was brilliant at it but didn't ever really have the right kind of striker. I truly believe the way Wenger wants to play requires that quick crafty type of player. Eduardo before his injury at times felt like that man. I hope the wheels don't fall off tomorrow! Liverpool's attack vs our rocks in he back will be fun to watch. I fondly remember that 4-4 game where Arshavin scored 4brilliant goals. Too bad he didn't have those type of games more often. Another player that seemed to regress backward under Wenger. Even Gervinho seems to be lighting up Italy!

  17. maguiresbridge gooner

    Feb 07, 2014, 20:53 #45412

    Bard, maybe there's a trophy for selling the most shirts and we're really going for it.

  18. Ron

    Feb 07, 2014, 20:18 #45411

    Hi Westie - I can only say how it was when i played mate. A cheat never got chance to cheat twice! That goofy f----r will be like a ballerina tomorrow and his scabby mate Gerrard will have his '10 mins to 2' feet flailing about like they've been disconnected from his ankles. Hes just as bad a cheat as the Uruguayan sh--bag. If Wenger had anything about him he d have been shouting from the rooftops today to the media that 'we need a ref with resolve' and 'a ref who ll stand before the Kop' and make the 'right decisions for the integrity of the game' bla bla bla. Wengers hopeless at getting into ref s minds. He never learned a trick off Fergie in all of those years.Ive never forgotten that qtr final CL game there. I was there and it was the night i started to detest Liverpool. All the respect they had earned in the 70s and 80s went down the pan. The cheating they did that night was unbelievable. Gerrard 'fixed' Flamini that night as he and Diaby had ran them ragged. It all went wrong after Flamini went off. Not a word about the tackle that did it in the Liverpool loving media. PS The best game Flamini ever had for us in that 1st half that night and i ve never rated him very highly.

  19. Westlower

    Feb 07, 2014, 19:30 #45410

    @Alsace, Lucky for the Duke of Marlborough that the match officials didn't give a key decision against his team at a vital stage of the battle. On such things, victories are decided. Hold your breath when Suarez hit's the deck, as doubtless he will at a vital stage of the Battle of Anfield. What's plan B after a cheat wins a penalty?

  20. Silly Billy

    Feb 07, 2014, 18:26 #45409

    i think Chesnay tried to get a move to real madrid

  21. Chris

    Feb 07, 2014, 18:13 #45407

    Jeff - yeah whatever, you're in your own little world and can;t be reasoned with. FWIW - where did I say 'we didn't try to sign him'? Certainly, if Chesney chatting Lew up is 'trying to sign him', we did. I really have no idea whether we did anymore than that, although we were obviously interested in him. You really can't stick to the facts, can you?

  22. Alsace Lorraine De Totteridge

    Feb 07, 2014, 18:11 #45406

    Jeff Wright is right. I was looking at a book on the battle of Blenheim (1704) which was a day trip to Germany for a fight against the French. In that example the Duke of Marlborough had a strong game plan, which worked out well, but only because he took instant and decisive action to put out a dangerous situation that occurred half way through. Wenger is no Marlborough. You have to react in the right way to the challenges presented. I also don't think that he usually has a strong game plan.

  23. jeff wright

    Feb 07, 2014, 17:43 #45405

    The problem is Chris that you are the one making things up by claiming that we never tried to sign Lew when he himself says that we did. And that is a fact.

  24. maguiresbridge gooner

    Feb 07, 2014, 17:41 #45404

    Ron, they sure do mate, and the white white haired one was there licking his lips with his tie matching the sexy presenters dress beside him (i've forgotten her name)trying to make the breaking news of a stoke signing sound like nothing we've ever heard,what a prat. And to top it all off they had big ben chiming at 11'O'clock. I honestly was tempted to come on here and wish everybody a happy new year.

  25. Chris

    Feb 07, 2014, 17:23 #45403

    Ron - I agree there's no point Jeff and I having a debate about lew but i don't think we actually were. I was pulling him up on being up to his old tricks - making up his "unarguable facts" to support his anti-Wenger view. I'll happily debate with anyone who has a view I disagree with and some anti-Wenger views may have merit but Jeff's certainly do never when he makes up facts to support them - as has been demonstrated more than once. Anyway, that's enough of that. I'll leave you with a quote from Jeff 'rarely' Wright - "You can argue about most things but not the facts". If only that was true in your case, Jeff!

  26. jeff wright

    Feb 07, 2014, 17:10 #45402

    As you say Ron it will all be down to how we perform on the day. My major reservation about Wenger is that he doesn't do tactics or think on his feet regarding substitutions to try and change things if we are struggling. His subs are preplanned,usually for 69 minutes irrespective of how the game is going for us. Wenger is a training ground coach not a tactician and his philosophy is sod the opposition let them worry about us,we play our own game. For me Pep and Mourinho are the two best coaches in the game at present and Wenger will need to out think both of those pair to stand a chance of winning anything and that leaves asise City in the league and the other top sides such as Barca in Europe. So no easy task this,and I would have more sympathy for Wenger if he didn't insist on making things even harder for himself. Rodger's is no great tactician himself though and Liverpool are mutton dressed up as lamb - so all things being even we should beat them. If not then I predict that Wenger will blame our players for making mistakes , the referee ,TV schedules or the economic crisis in Europe.In other words everything other than you know who.

  27. Ron

    Feb 07, 2014, 16:40 #45401

    Youre right about Liverpool Jeff. Hard to decide whether theyre the deal or not. They seem rubbish some weeks as you say.The thing is, knowing that they can be rubbish (their defence esp with old Kolo ambling about in it) the issue for me is whether Wenger has the nads to instill in his team that we re probably quite a few notches up on them really so to go and take them out, bet the hell out of them. I just dont see any confidence in him doing that now and havent for a few years. Im firmly of the view that the 8-2 thrashing Utd inflicted on him 3 years back has made him nervy and cautious. We rarely look like we have any belief in the bigger games and Liverpool away is still one of them.I d lay odds on, we ll arse about with tip tap toe, go a goal down,leave it late before opening up and concede another, either before or after we score one. No 'agent Reina' there now either to screw up and throw one in his own goal to help us out like he used to do at Anfield! We ll see. Cmon you Gunners.

  28. jeff wright

    Feb 07, 2014, 16:05 #45400

    Ive been to Bangkok and Singapore and they were awash with fake football siirts including ourb ones,and they were according to investigations on this made in China ! So I won't be holding my breath on Ivan , Hank and Chuck making too many bucks out of trying to sell genuine ones to Asian glory hunters. Real Madrid and United are the two most popular clubs and that trend follows elsewhere in places such as Turkey ( another dodgy merchandise mecca) and Israel . It's all about broadband TV Westie for Stan he has taken a punt on this becoming his golden goose. Many experts on such affairs are sceptical though that it will ever get off the ground big-time. Also some nasty rumours going around that the Puma deal,a dumbing down from brand Nike, is not all that it appears to be.

  29. Research the facts!

    Feb 07, 2014, 15:53 #45399

    Deloitte 2014 - Commercial income: Real Madrid £181m, Barcelona £152m, Bayern Munich £203m, Manchester United £153m, Arsenal £62m

  30. jeff wright

    Feb 07, 2014, 15:50 #45398

    Ron, I rarely listen to talk sh*te all of those silly jingles put me off driving ! I guess we will find out tomorrow how good Liverpool are - so far they have not played a top 3 side at home this season. We however have to up our game from that of our last poor away performance at Southampton . We won't beat Liverpool playing like that. TBH, I've not been that impressed with Liverpool ,they have produced some good displays and some absolute shockers. Their recent home form as been good though so they will be feeling confident. We have to win though because City look likely to beat Norwich away and the chavs the bar codes at the bridge of sighs. Wenger does look rather like Humpty Dumpty sitting on a wall and if he falls off it will be very difficult for him to clamber back up on to it. I'm sticking though with us winning tomorrow, but my view that we lack the strength in depth to hold off City and Chelsea to win the league still stands . Anyone who backed us to do so at short odds awhile back, when we had a few points lead, and our rivals were struggling must be worried every time we play with no margin for error left now. It's like having a bet on the Grand National every time your nag is jumping a fence your money is up in the air and you are praying that it doesn't fall . So sit tight Arsene, Becher's Brook is coming up!

  31. Bard

    Feb 07, 2014, 15:28 #45397

    I get the idea that we're trying to earn shedloads of dosh all over the world but is that really of interest to us fans. I can imagine a scene down my pub with some of my mates who are always ripping me about Arsenal never winning anything. When they start with how many trophies Chelsea have won, my riposte might be " yeah but do you guys realise how many shirts Arsenal we sell in China and Africa". I'd get a pint thrown over me.

  32. Ron

    Feb 07, 2014, 15:13 #45396

    Jeff - i still think tomorrow, out of all these 'tests' the team have supposedly had will prove a crucial one. Win there and theres room for belief going forward. However, 1-1 draw is maybe as good as it gets, but more likely a 2-1 Liverpool win is on the cards i feel. Hope not, because im going, but the fates may just decree that we wont be winning 3 on the bounce there. Westie - Cant believe that you listen to 'talksh--e'. Utter drivel, or it always used to be at any rate.

  33. jeff wright

    Feb 07, 2014, 15:06 #45395

    Hi Ron, no point at all really. Chris seems to think that there is one though. I gave up watching that Sky thing long ago all much a do about nothing really. It's hard to judge what is actually going on at AFC with all the subterfuge and sleight of hand that is going on these days. Wenger is always reacting to events and the last minute signing of beach soccer boy Kallstrum was another example of this. Wenger doesent really like signing top players anyway he is still into developing them,ortrying to do so ,to confirm is boast from donkeys years ago that we don't buy stars her we make them. The only problem is we also always end up eventually selling them when their wages can be bettered by other clubs. There is always too many works in progress and not enough top players in the side. Also too many small midfield ones . Just having one game plan doesn't help Wenger much either when he plays the better sides.

  34. Bard

    Feb 07, 2014, 15:01 #45394

    Westie; the thought of the spuds being a feeder club for us tickled my fancy. You may well be right although I tend to take talksport with a large pinch of salt. The issue is when do we get to see all this dosh spent on some players and try to win something, in this decade or the next ? To be honest I couldn't give a flying f**k about how we are viewed in China.

  35. Westlower

    Feb 07, 2014, 14:49 #45393

    Talksport has revealed that AFC are the most popular team in China, a survey undertaken by Coventry Uni has revealed. The most popular national team is Germany, ahead of Italy, Spain & England. The German content in the AFC team is probably a significant factor in Arsenal's popularity. Clever old AW, Ivan & Stan recruiting so many Germans! We maybe regarded by some as second rate in UK but we're rated top dog in Asia. Just think of all that potential Asian dosh waiting to be poured into our bulging coffers from the emerging Chinese market. How shrewd are AFC's management, obviously not as dumb as some would have you believe? Recent record shirt deal with the prospect of much more to come when the TV companies organise a Euro/World league. AFC v Miami Florida, AFC v Beijing, the marketeers will love it. Spurs could then become our feeder club, but at a much lower domestic level of course.

  36. Spaced

    Feb 07, 2014, 14:47 #45392

    So Mr Lynch, the most successful manager in Arsenal's 127 year history is second rate, is he? Therefore, by your reasoning, that makes Arsenal a third rate club. I beg to differ.

  37. Ron

    Feb 07, 2014, 14:43 #45391

    Not sure theres any point to that debate you and Chris are having over a BM player is there? It was all wild speculation anyway probably, maybe made up by that white haired Jim ? guy who SKY used to have eyes blazing and frothing all over his stupid great count down clock every transfer window. Do they still have that oaf and his clock?

  38. jeff wright

    Feb 07, 2014, 14:30 #45390

    Lew clearly said that he can confirm that Arsenal tried to SIGN HIM . Wolfy had several conversations about this telling his fellow Pole what Wenger thought about him. Important people from Arsenal watched him train at London Colney. But no offer was made to him. Now Chris from what Lew said I believe that he was expecting some approach and an to offer to be made . Is this really so unreasonable to believe . I also believe that had the offer been better than BM's that he would have joined us as did Ozil when the price is right. Okay I may have overstated this by saying that he was prepared to join us ,but there is no evidence to suggest that he may not have done so. At no point during his comments does Lew say that he had a done deal with BM and told Wolfy that he was wasting his time tapping him up. And if it was a fact that he had one then why were important people from Arsenal watching him train in London? Surely they along with Wolfy would have been better off looking at a striker WHO WAS AVAILABLE .

  39. Bard

    Feb 07, 2014, 14:18 #45389

    Johnny Lynch; I don't think he's second rate although I agree he's not in Maureen's class. I think the problem is the position the club have allowed him to be in. They are so grateful to him for the money and stability he brings they let him get on with it. As a consequence he has too much power. he needs someone to shake him up and challenge him. someone who insists he try and win something, someone who makes him buy players. He's got into a comfortable rut. How did the club allow some of the sh*t buys to be made, of which Kallstrum is arguably the worst. Why isn't he accountable. If he was we might see a very different amanger

  40. Chris

    Feb 07, 2014, 14:14 #45388

    Jeff - No you don't! You just said: "and taking account of the fact that he mentioned that no approach was made to him when he was in London from us that he was prepared to consider joining us and that the BM deal was not at that time a done thing." When did he say anything of these things? None of this has been reported anywhere.

  41. jeff wright

    Feb 07, 2014, 13:57 #45387

    Chris, I go by what Lew said not Mourinho ,Wenger,and yourself. After all he should know if he was being tapped up by Wolfy on behalf of Wenger or not.

  42. Chris

    Feb 07, 2014, 13:48 #45386

    Jeff - The fact that a) Lew said Ches was trying to persuade him to join Arsenal, b) that Lew has since joined Bayern and c) that both Mourinho and Wenger have stated that Lew agreed to join Bayern over a year ago, all support my interpretation. You're not very good at this, are you?

  43. GaryFootscrayAustralia

    Feb 07, 2014, 13:07 #45385

    I think any of the three options suggested would be a definite improvement, but I also think that, by the time late July rolls around, Yaya Sanogo will be named as Giroud's understudy / domestic cup relief option, fit or otherwise.

  44. Research the facts!

    Feb 07, 2014, 12:40 #45384

    Lewandoski said "I can confirm that Wojciech Szczesny tried to convince me to join Arsenal. We had several talks about this. It was him who did most of the talking, how the club looks inside, what Arsene Wenger thinks of me. When we trained before the Champions League games at Colney, there were important people from Arsenal at our sessions as well"

  45. Johnny Lynch

    Feb 07, 2014, 12:40 #45383

    Any Arsenal Fan worth his salt , and even not having worked half a day in football knows deep down we have a second rate manager.. Mourinho's masterclass against Manchester City on Monday night stands in stark contrast to the mauling we got up there , it was tactics and a teamsheet Wenger will never achieve We are top of the pile by beating the teams we should have and are not further ahead because we've lost against the class. Wenger always loses against the class. Always will. These last eight seasons have been nothing but embarrassing and every single ex pro and pundit are uniformed in their opinion that the next two months will see our season blown away , because class awaits this busted flush and despite his huge salary and years in the game he cannot cope with class teams. And no, I'm not fuc*ing off down the lane

  46. jeff wright

    Feb 07, 2014, 11:19 #45382

    Chris,read my last post I said I assumed from reading Lew's comments that after having had several chats with Wolfy ( I don't like that Chesney name it sounds like a TV soap opera one ) about joining us and taking account of the fact that he mentioned that no approach was made to him when he was in London from us that he was prepared to consider joining us and that the BM deal was not at that time a done thing. Unless of course Lew is making it all up and him and Wolfy were just passing the time chatting about such thing as Einstein's theory on relativity. There is as I have already pointed out nothing in Lew's comments to support your claims that Wolfy was trying to get Lew to change his mind about joining BM ,so you made that up to support what you believe happened and this only exists in your own mind .

  47. Don Froth

    Feb 07, 2014, 8:09 #45380

    Westi.....it truly is a dark dark day when your saying you'd like to see Gervinho supporting Giroud from the right. Appalling player, good riddance, the master of the blind alley!

  48. Westlower

    Feb 07, 2014, 7:57 #45379

    @DW Thomas, The world and his wife are of the opinion we need another striker. That was only going to happen in January if Giroud had suffered a long term injury before the deadline. As long as Giroud is regarded as the number one striker at Arsenal it is doubtful any striker worth his salt is going to come in & be content playing second fiddle. Would you really like to see Agbonlahor or similar leading our attack? Spending loads of money doesn't guarantee success either as PSG have found with their £54m investment on Cavani, who we read is to be offloaded in the summer. It's not just AKB's who are blind, as most people fail to recognise that AFC only play with one main striker and any new signing would only be cover for an injured Giroud. Personally, I would have loved to have seen Gervinho supporting Giroud from a wide right position but that was always going to be Theo's spot. Now where did I tie up my guide dog? AKB.

  49. Chris

    Feb 07, 2014, 7:53 #45378

    Jeff - The point is that you presented your interpretation as fact ("Lew says..." etc) where as I clearly stated mine was my interpretation. What's more, your interpretation involved adding additional facts (e.g. Lew wanted to join us) whereas I've stuck to the facts - Chesney tried to persuade him to join Arsenal, is what Lew himself said, whilst both Maureen and Wenger have said he was always joining Bayern. Where on earth did Lew ever ask why Arsenal never made an offer for him when he was training at Colney? You seem to have a real problem distinguishing what's in your head from the real world - i.e. what's actually hapened or been said....

  50. Research the facts!

    Feb 07, 2014, 7:37 #45377

    6th Jan 2014 - The Arsenal manager said: 'Yes we looked into Lewandowski but honestly he signed for Bayern one and a half years ago, everyone knows that. They can only make it official now because he is in the last six months of his contract.'

  51. Black Hei

    Feb 07, 2014, 3:45 #45376

    The relevance of any new article on Online Gooner is for "fans" to spew their anti-Wenger hate.

  52. DW Thomas

    Feb 07, 2014, 1:24 #45375

    I love debating/arguing respectfully over what will make us winners. Not the biggest fan of Wenger, we could win a trophy with him at the helm, but he just doesn't help himself. His quotes and missed opportunities with players are the most grating things. Selling Cesc and RVP and not replacing either till Ozil's arrival is borderline ridiculous! We have almost completed the puzzle many times, but it's like he just can't see we're missing a piece! A top striker like Suarez or any of the four at City or dare I say even a player like Agbonlahor would quite probably push us to the summit of winners. But what does Wenger do repeatedly? Fail to strengthen. We can only hope the players win despite the manager.

  53. Finsbury Joe

    Feb 06, 2014, 22:58 #45373

    Ron,Chris You two haven't got a scooby. Grow up!

  54. jeff wright

    Feb 06, 2014, 22:52 #45372

    Er,no Chris, I assumed that he was prepared to join us though from his comments . As you assumed that we had tried to make him change his mind about joining BM. In both cases shall we say that a bit of artistic licence was involved .Of the two scenarios I believe that my one,based on the interview that he was prepared to join us if he was approached is the more likely of the two. Of course he could be just a strange guy who liked talking to Wolfy about us signing him over several conversations, it must have riverting stuff with Wolfy explaining how Lew would be crazy to join a loser like Pep when he could come and play for Wwenger ! It gets even weirder though if he had no interest in joining us - and then months later asks why Wenger never made an offer for him when training at Arsenal , although he had made clear that he was joining BM and had no interest in joining us. A case for sending in the men in white coats. This seems unlikely though because Lew doesent appear to be crazy. So I will stick with my view that despite what Maureen claims that at the time that Wolfy was bending Lews ear on extolling the virtues of Arsene , and also when Lew turned up in London later ,that he had not yet decided on whom he would join . BM probably were favs but he didn't sign for them until January and many a prospective signing in football-land gets gazumped . A case of you have to buy a ticket in a raffle to win it.

  55. I hate Wenger

    Feb 06, 2014, 22:32 #45371

    Wenger is the problem but he makes the club money and thats all Kroenke and Gazidis are about.One day the AKB's will realise Arsenal are all about making money.Trophies v Money what do you think Kroenke will choose.You know and i know.ST's are already going UP 3%.Sadly most AKB's are blind

  56. Finsbury Joe

    Feb 06, 2014, 22:31 #45370

    The only three options for the summer are whether to finish fourth , fifth or below in the coming season

  57. Roy

    Feb 06, 2014, 22:11 #45369

    Could it not be that Wenger just didn't want the player ? And if he did and got him, would there have been any Ozil ?

  58. Chris

    Feb 06, 2014, 21:54 #45368

    Jeff - To quote you: "Lewandowski says that he was prepared to join us, but dithering Arsene missed out by not getting in for him when he had the chance while he was training at London Colney." Did he actually say that or did you make that up?

  59. jeff wright

    Feb 06, 2014, 21:41 #45367

    Made up what Chris? I gave my view on what I read of Lews comments. I just reread them and nowhere does it say,as you suggest, that Wolfy tried to change his mind about signing for BM. In fact Lew never mentions BM! Wenger not making any offer for Lew anyway only left him with Hobbs choice. So not really a difficult one for Lew to make. He might still have joined BM unless Wenger made him an offer that he couldn't refuse - and he was never prepared to go that far for Suarez - who is a better player. So that was unlikely . A case of when Wenger calls for Suarez of: You Say Hello And I Say Goodbye.

  60. Jason B

    Feb 06, 2014, 21:29 #45366

    If you think those 3 will even take notice of the links, let alone speak to their agent about coming then you clearly live in the land of make believe.

  61. Chris

    Feb 06, 2014, 21:17 #45365

    Jeff - Just admit you made it up, there's a good chap. As for the rest - yo and I have no idea what Lew did or didn't say to Chesney so why not just stick to the facts? I know you find that hard but it's better that way, I promise.

  62. jeff wright

    Feb 06, 2014, 21:01 #45364

    Chris, Mourinho's comments were just his view of events, or even ,surprise surprise, a bit of mischief making by the master of psychology . The problem I have with your views are if Wenger never made an offer for him as Lew suggests and it was all done and dusted that Lew was on his way to BM , then why is Lew coming out now and mentioning that Wolfy told him in several conversations that Wenger wanted to sign him , but no offer was ever made to him when the chance was there to do so when he was at the Arsenal training ground ? Something is not adding up here , because if the deal was done for Lew to go to BM then why did he not say so to Wolfy? And why would he have expected an offer to be made from Wenger when he was in London if he was not available! I must say that reading Lews comments that it appears that he was surprised that after all of the tapping up by Wolfy on Wenger's behalf that no offer was made to see if he was prepared to join us. If you see this in another way then that is your prerogative. I can only assume myself that the Bendtner situation impacted on matters with Stan not prepared to increase our wage bill while having to pay the great Danes. Stan could easily work out that we could get at least 4th place in the league with out Lew , and that Wenger had big Bendy anyway for cover on 50k a week until the end of the season . So I will stick with my view that it was all just more dithering about as with the Suarez case on Wenger's part and that when push came to shove he again chose to go with the cheaper option, Big Bendy, and good luck to him.

  63. Chris

    Feb 06, 2014, 19:48 #45363

    Jeff - Does it say anywhere that Lew said he was prepared to join us and dithering meant we missed out? No. So this sentence that you wrote: "Lewandowski says that he was prepared to join us, but dithering Arsene missed out by not getting in for him when he had the chance while he was training at London Colney."...is nothing more than the pure fantasy you like to peddle as fact when it suits you. On the other hand, my interpretation ("From what I've read, it seems he was always joining Bayern (Mourinho reported this was widely know for a year) and that we tried unsuccessfully to change his mind") is at least in line with the facts. One of us has made things up, the other hasn't. Spot the ifiference.

  64. Ron

    Feb 06, 2014, 19:42 #45361

    Never been able to see what all of the gushing is about over the Lewandowski guy. Seems OK but not a million miles better than Giroud? Giroud just needs a tough terrier of a striker up with him, who can convert chances off Girouds graft and its happy days i've always reckoned. Similarly, while we re at it, i never thought Higuain was that brilliant. At least he never shone whenever i saw RM play. His record in Naples hardly rips up trees either.

  65. jeff wright

    Feb 06, 2014, 17:15 #45358

    With all due respect Chris you are only doing what you slate me for,offering your own interpretation of what transpired with Lew after Wolfy had tapped him up on behalf of Wenger. Money talks in football and had Wenger offered more than BM, who are not the biggest wage payers in the world,then who knows what might have happened . Perhaps we could get Amos on to give us his view on the amortization of wages and how debts on the stadium prevented Wenger from making an offer .Or it could be that Stan decided that seeing as how he is paying Big Bendy 50k a week to play for us that Wenger would have to make do with him until the season ends. After all Wenger is the one who gave him the contract and the money that goes with it. I'll go with that option and leave the amortized wages of Lew, and that old excuse of the stadium debt ,that gets wheeled out like a bin full of old garbage by our amateur accountants every time Wenger's doesn't spend a sou in a window being the reason for it.

  66. Chris

    Feb 06, 2014, 16:53 #45356

    Jeff - There are numerous links reporting that Lew has said he had lots of conversations with Ches about Arsenal and Ches tried to persuade him to sign for Arsenal and that 'important people' from Arsenal watched him train at Colney. But there are none (that I can find) that said he was interested in signing for us and that we lost out because Wenger dithered (to quote you:"that he was prepared to join us, but dithering Arsene missed out by not getting in for him when he had the chance while he was training at London Colney". Not for the first time, yo have let you imagination run to want you would like to be the case, rather than what was stated as the case. From what I've read, it seems he was always joining Bayern (Mourinho reported this was widely know for a year) and that we tried unsuccessfully to change his mind.

  67. maguiresbridge gooner

    Feb 06, 2014, 16:15 #45355

    Bard, yes how many times have we been waiting for that one or two to finish the jigsaw. The signing of Ozil gave everybody a huge lift the fans ,players alike a real moral booster for everyone,the chance was there again this time for something similar and no better time for it either (and i've no doubt the players were expecting it and would have loved to have seen it as well,) at the business end of the season and not only what it would have done for the players let alone the fans, but the opposition as well, to see Arsenal who are top of the table not giving much away at the back strengthening in attack even though we did needed to, wow they mean business this time, their really going for it, a statement of intent. And to take it a step even further think of what it would have done for us all if on his first appearance he scored the winner truly starting to believe or what.`But no the chance wasn't taken and OGL true to form disappoints again and lands us with a crack back who is ushered straight to ward 10 of the London colny convalescence home.

  68. Bard

    Feb 06, 2014, 15:16 #45352

    Mg. I've been done that road too often. Imagine if we bought a great striker. A while back it was a keeper, then a defensive midfielder, all the while waiting for that signing that moves us from also rans to challengers but it never materialises and after the last window I realised it never will. It's tangential to my point but can you imagine what the players thought of this window.Fantastic position who will the boss buy to help our run in. A top striker, a top defensive midfielder maybe? No lads I've bought Kallstrum, he's got a broken back and can't play till March and maybe not at all. What a lift for the lads going into the really tough part of the programme ?

  69. jeff wright

    Feb 06, 2014, 14:57 #45351

    Chris,There are numerous links about Lewandski being approached to sign for us,he says that he was tapped up by Wolfy on behalf of Wenger who was interested in signing him - they had several conversations about this . He is not going to make up porkies about this . However, despite the interest expressed in him by Wenger however when he trained at London Colney no attempt was made to offer him a deal at AFC. So as far as I am concerned deja vu just more dithering about from Wenger that we have grown accustomed to seeing in his transfer dealings that have become the joke of football. To get back to a Beatles song analogy Wenger is a loser and not what he appears to be.

  70. Ossie's Dream

    Feb 06, 2014, 14:26 #45350

    Arsenal need to get rid of Wenger, Ozil, AOL, Carzorla, Szesney, Wishere and the two centre backs. A clear out is needed.

  71. maguiresbridge gooner

    Feb 06, 2014, 14:22 #45349

    Imagine what the arrival of a proper striker in this deadline day would have done, because yes we certainly need an up grade (or two) and have done for a long time. It was important that the ditherer made a move in this window but he didn't, what makes you think he will in the summer especially if we do manage to win something at last, he'll probably think we're good enough and fine as we are and not bother his arse strengthening (apart from a couple of crocks from ligue 2 or worse)would any of us be surprised? Potential signings? here we go again this window has barely closed after another clostraf**k and we're talking about the next one are we really looking forward to another clostraf**k spin fest that much? potential signings? We can speculate until the cows come home it will not make any difference a complete wast of time (no disrespect) what's potential to us is not necessarily potential to OGL, and the very fact their names are being bandied about, and discussed by the fans on an Arsenal site will most likely seal their fate because when does wenger ever listen to the fans and when do we ever get what we want, and as we know OGL will not be told what to do.

  72. Bard

    Feb 06, 2014, 14:20 #45348

    Sam the trouble with these articles is that their central premise is wrong. It presumes we are hellbent on challenging for domestic and European hons and that is not true. They threw a curved ball by buying Ozil and when they did I thought the club had turned a corner despite it being a sop to the fans. I couldn't work out why having spent 3 months trying to buy a striker suddenly Ozil was on the radar. Finding ourselves in a fabulous position you would have thought they would have beefed up the side even if they couldn't do the striker thing, but f**k me after a month pissing around they buy a Swedish player who is too injured to be of any use on loan no less.so he's not even available for next season. So my point is this Sam there's no chance of us buying any of the players you mention because we are not serious about the challenge. It's a huge charade. Many on here have woken up but there are still many too blind to see they've been sold a dud.

  73. Chris

    Feb 06, 2014, 14:20 #45347

    Jeff - don't think links are allowed but if you tell me the author and where it was, I'll be able to find it. I didn't let the cat out of the bag, btw - i just illustrated one of the ways in which Wenger is able to outperform his spend, as illustrated by the analyses you refer to....

  74. jeff wright

    Feb 06, 2014, 14:10 #45346

    Chris, my financial views on the way things are at AFC is based on the club accounts and actually money spent and not on the biased opinions of you and Amos aka this and the other based on some silly survey that was carried out by some organization. One such survey ( a French one )had Wenger down as being the top coach of the last decade! If you believe that then you really will believe anything.. Here is a link to the Lew story ... of course on all known evidence it wouldn't be like Arsene to miss out on signing a player by dithering about over the money involved would it now... you let the cat out the bag when you pointed out how much he loves signing a cheapo crock... carry on fuming away though but remember it will all come out in the wash in May when the medals are handed out. Cheers.

  75. Ron

    Feb 06, 2014, 14:09 #45345

    As much we all talk, argue and debate trasnfer policy, wdt it be nice to have 3-4 London boys come through quickly and prove their mettle, say like Charalie Geaorge did all those years back. Id sooner have that than any more fancy dan european imports. Moreover the fans would again have an emotiional link to the players, particularly the younger fans and the game here is desperate for it.Dont know about you fellas but all this foreign importing for the last 15 years or so by all Clubs has turned me off football bit by bit over the years.Some great players have come here, to all the Clubs and ive no probs with the foreign lads, but the Clubs have lost touch even with their own towns and cities. All makes for a more mercenary and sterile game. I know im p-----g in the wind but it how i feel guys.

  76. cyril

    Feb 06, 2014, 13:31 #45343

    The other conundrum about not buying the players who have great potential is [without stating the obvious] they go to other top clubs. This means that not only do we not strengthen, we hand the advantage to the opposition. The likelihood that we can buy the 'great player' next time is gone as they do not sell onto us and so they need to be recycled to a lesser team and potentially back to us. That does not happen either. We wait for the next crop of decent players and the cycle continues. If it is not Wenger, then it must be the scouts or if not it is the board or the negotiator. Must get cluedo out and sharpen up... I have run out of people to blame. Just win it and there will be patefuls of humble pie!

  77. Aaron

    Feb 06, 2014, 12:58 #45342

    Cavani should be our number 1 target, with Diego Costa 2nd Mandzukic has the eaxt same traits and issues as Giroud i.e. good in the air and holds the ball up well but lacks pace to get behind defences and is not clinical

  78. Roy

    Feb 06, 2014, 12:51 #45341

    Absolutely spot on, Mike. Giroud has done a largely cracking job of doing exactly what he's been asked to do, and it's not his fault that we don't have an Aguero/Suarez - type striker in the squad. I remember when he signed he said how much he was looking forward to playing alongside such quality as RVP, probably hoping against hope that he would stay. When he left, there was no strop, no moaning to the media although he must have been very disappointed, he just got his head down and got on with the job whilst displaying a first class attitude ever since. He's obviously proud to wear the shirt and lesser players would have had to have been subbed rather than stay on and score the winner as he did at Newcastle. Say we get beat narrowly at Anfield on Sat and he misses a good chance - not beyond the realms of possibility - he'll get the blame in most peoples eyes, but it's just plain wrong. I like your homework on potential strikers Sam, but I don't think we'll pay the eventual asking price for Costa. I would hazard a guess that Olivier is as frustrated as anyone, but unlike us, he's not one to complain.

  79. Its up for grabs now

    Feb 06, 2014, 12:41 #45340

    Keeping up with all the recent musical themes, how about Dreamer by Supertramp! This is Wenger we are talking about here, and those suggestions are 1 Not cheap, 2 Not currently injured, 3 Would show ambition, 4 Raise expectations, 5 Affect the bottom line, 6 Make Wenger look even more incompetent should they once again fail to win anything 7 Kill Sanogo's career at Arsenal (remember Denilson and Diaby) 8 Even if purchased played out of position.

  80. Ron

    Feb 06, 2014, 12:19 #45339

    Arsenal need 1. A new Coach and 2. An acceptance by the Board that a change of direction is needed in supporting a new Coach. If the two cant be achieved together, then suggesting such market activity as you do is a bit pointless i suspect. I mught suggest too that the type and level of player you suggest arent likely to be acquired. Theyre not needed to maintain the place in the top 4 in the PL so unless the suggested Board change of approach is happening, they wont even consider such expediture and why should they? There s always a correlation between where a Club wants to be and what it buys to try to get there. As it stands, we are where the Club wants to be, or so it seems to me, so spending big on true quality performers isnt needed.

  81. Chris

    Feb 06, 2014, 12:19 #45338

    Jeff -Did Lewandroski really say that or has that come form the depths of your vivid imagination, where most of your 'unarguable' financial facts also come from? I've read a few things today but not one of them has said anything like "that he was prepared to join us, but dithering Arsene missed out by not getting in for him when he had the chance while he was training at London Colney". If he did, point me in the right direction and I'll happily take it back.

  82. Chris

    Feb 06, 2014, 12:07 #45337

    Wenger has always had a taste for injured & convalescing players, right back to Overmars and Kanu. It's central to this Moneyball thing - buy undervalued players to extract the most from a limited budget. It hasn't always worked as well as it did with those too but I doubt he's suddenly going to get too hung up on it now that there's more money available.

  83. jeff wright

    Feb 06, 2014, 12:00 #45336

    I agree with the view that all of this speculating on who we should sign is an exercise in futility. The problem regarding why we never win anything is Wenger himself with his outdated predictable tactics and squad building . His midfield is not physically strong enough against the top sides it works against the weaker lesser ones though and this allows him to get a 3rd or 4th place each season in the Prem - while always losing out in the KO stages of the Champions League . Is this going to change ? You have to beat those top teams to win trophies and Wenger's record over the past few seasons shows that he can't beat these sides . You can argue about most things but facts are not one of them. A reluctant half-hearted effort by Wenger in signing a clapped out Flamini , the would be Flambo, on a 3 year deal on 40k a week will not change that . It does again though show the reckless way in which the allegedly financially shrewd Wenger chucks money away. lewandowski says that he was prepared to join us, but dithering Arsene missed out by not getting in for him when he had the chance while he was training at London Colney . This is another example of the nearly man at work. Will it really all be any different next summer ?

  84. Mike

    Feb 06, 2014, 11:09 #45335

    I absolutely disagree with Giroud being the weak spot - the weak spot is the lack of back up for him. The style of play with the midfielders playing off him means he is perfect for the formation being utilsed. As long as the midfielders continue putting the ball in the back of the net with Giroud contributing, the balance is good - the concern as it has been all season is that there is not a like for like back up for him

  85. Bard

    Feb 06, 2014, 10:57 #45332

    Sam: I understand the effort you have put into this but I cant see the point of even hazarding a guess about what Arsenal will do in the summer . We spent all summer chasing strikers and ended up with Ozil on the last day and loaned an injured swede who can't play till the end of Feb at the earliest this window. If you can make sense of that as coherent strategy you're a better analyst than I am. How about putting 20,players on a wall and throw darts at them while blindfolded it will be about as accurate as your suggestions . I worry he' s getting a taste for buying injured players Sanogo being another, they're so cheap and we know the boss loves a bargain.

  86. Grand Ambition

    Feb 06, 2014, 9:47 #45328

    Sam, of the 3 you mention only 1 is a better striker than Giroud - Costa - and I suspect he's bound for Chelsea. Like Giroud, Mario is a good striker made to look better by the quality of those around him - Adrian Ramos looks a good player, but I doubt that he would adapt well to the premier league. I still think Pato is worth a punt if he can be tempted over to these shores.

  87. Pie_In_Sky

    Feb 06, 2014, 9:44 #45327

    Wenger will sign Johannes van Buurman (i.e. that guy you've never heard of playing in that league that nobody watches).

  88. Black Hei

    Feb 06, 2014, 9:26 #45326

    Of the 3, I will pick Mandzukic and create a Gibbs/Monreal situation for the top post. Since we are gifted with goal scoring chaps throughout the entire midfield we need the striker to be a link up man. Not a pure goal scorer. Costa might improve Ozil assist stats; but it might equally mean goals drying out for Ramsey since there is no one up there to hold onto the ball while the runners go into space.