Patrick Barclay on Arsenal

Thoughts from the football writer on the Spurs game, Chelsea tomorrow and the FA Cup semi-final



Patrick Barclay on Arsenal

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The author of The Life and Times of Herbert Chapman, Patrick Barclay, took time out from his busy schedule to have a chat with The Gooner’s Layth Yousif about the North London Derby, Tim Sherwood’s best impression of Wenger’s Basil Fawlty, tomorrow’s game against Chelsea, Mourinho’s ‘crass’ comments about Wenger, and why we should fear Wigan in the FA Cup Semi Final.

What did you think of Arsenal’s performance in the North London derby?
It was a pretty good Arsenal reinvention, they had far less possession than they normally would, around 40%, and defended deep from the constant attacks but their defending was very good. And although I thought Spurs played well with a high tempo, I also thought Arsenal coped with them very well.

Certainly the centre halves Laurent Koscielny and the German Per Mertesacker were two of the more reliable performers, I thought they played very well and looked solid, along with the goalkeeper for the most part. It seems at the moment it doesn’t matter which goalkeeper plays in front of them they are defending well. As for Sagna [and his challenge on Danny Rose] it should have been an orange card, the referee erred on the side of caution. And I thought Rosicky’s goal was one mighty potshot. The result sets up Arsenal’s game at Chelsea this Saturday and Wenger against Mourinho.

What did you think of the difference between Sherwood and Wenger during the game?
Well, Sherwood gave us an impression of Arsene Wenger’s best Basil Fawlty, even if we are getting to the stage when entertainment by dugout is starting to bore. I think you could see that Wenger was the more experienced manager, whereas Sherwood let his frustrations get the better of him again because of the fact that they had far more chances and possession yet lost the game.

What do you think will happen next in the race for the title?
It has been a great season top and bottom so far, so much so that I do not know what matches to ignore on Match of the Day at the moment! At the top, it is the best race I can remember, I stand to be corrected but to have four teams challenging for the title is unprecedented in the modern era and makes it extremely exciting. What Arsenal’s result against Spurs means for Arsenal fans and London football is that Saturday’s game will be even more anticipated.

I have felt ever since Mourinho made his crass remark about Wenger that this game would not need Wenger to give a team talk. His recent criticism of Arsene was crass - and bear in mind Mourinho didn’t apologise for it. I really don’t think that Arsene will have to do a team talk this weekend, certainly not – Mourinho did it for him. The Arsenal players will be acutely aware of their responsibilities because of what he said.

Why do you think Wenger hasn’t yet beaten Mourinho in his time in England?
Mourinho gradually learned how to counteract ‘tiki-taka’ football and Barcelona-like teams, and he wants to win one on ones I guess, because it matters very much to Mourinho. And let’s not forget beating Arsenal is a benchmark – if you beat them the chances are that you will finish around the top of the league, certainly in the top four.

In terms of preparation Wenger is not a tactical manager, not in the Mourinho sense. And frankly Mourinho also has better players - probably only by a matter of one percent at the moment - but those small margins make all the difference. I don’t think there’s any voodoo. I have a huge respect for Wenger, it’s just that Chelsea have had the edge over Arsenal in recent times just as Chelsea have had the edge over Tottenham, albeit for a longer period of time.

Finally, do you have any words of warning for Arsenal when they play Wigan in the FA Cup Semi Final?
Be afraid be very afraid. Wigan are a well-managed club and are rather like Everton in terms of the fact they’ve had one excellent manager and replaced him with another manager capable of carrying on the previous man’s good work, Uwe Rossler for Roberto Martinez.

I was looking at Wigan’s subs bench on for their Championship game on Saturday and they had [Josh] McEachran who was hailed as one of the best young players in England at one stage and is still owned by Chelsea. They also had Nick Powell, Manchester United loanee and one of the best young players to come out of Manchester United - via Crewe. He is a very powerful player [I mention that I saw him play for Crewe at Underhill against Arsenal in the FA Youth Cup as few seasons back – Where did he play? Patrick asks eagerly. In midfield I reply].

Yes, I think his best position is in midfield as he is dynamic and if his development continues he could be very much in the Bryan Robson mould although perhaps not at that level. They also had Callum McManaman, man of the match in last year’s final, and a player who was mentioned in England terms last year.

Wigan play football – Arsenal won’t mind that, but yes Arsenal need to be very concerned and treat the tie as seriously as the Everton quarter final – it is going to be testing for them.

Thanks for your time Patrick.
No problem. Can I just say that the interest I’ve had from Arsenal fans regarding the book has been great. It makes it very hard for me as a neutral when I’ve had such a great time meeting many Arsenal fans including those involved with AISA and AST so I thank you all very much for that.

You can buy Patrick’s stunning book on the life and times of Herbert Chapman here

Long term Arsenal season ticket holder Layth has written for The Islington Gazette, The London Evening Standard, The Sunday People, When Saturday Comes, World Soccer, Four-Four-Two, In Bed With Maradona, The Football Pink and The Inside Left amongst many others.

Follow Layth on Twitter @laythy29


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  1. klax

    Mar 23, 2014, 9:09 #47986

    Patrick Barclay is also the Author of Mourinho's Biography.Try check as it seems conveniently not mentioned here.

  2. jjetplane

    Mar 22, 2014, 18:14 #47911

    WENGER OUT Cambridge was when you were playing Eastbourne Boro 2007? Men against boys. Great stuff. Now I have moved over to Eastbourne Utd cause the little place is buzzing. We had 500 the other week and there was more atmosphere there than a snooze fest with millionaires. Also seen alot of Brighton, Exeter over these years and to be honest it makes it a lot easier to deal with the current circus brand just down from the Nag's Head. WhaT CAN WE SAY. People were saying Bendtner would come up with the goods .....

  3. maguiresbridge gooner

    Mar 22, 2014, 18:02 #47908

    DW Thomas, and you'll continue to hear the excuses mate, it's a bit early yet, as it's easier after a 1 or 2 nil defeat rather than yet another humiliation but believe me they'll come, they'll come.

  4. Martyn

    Mar 22, 2014, 17:45 #47906

    I really want Arsene's legacy to prevail despite this loss today. To decline a new contract and see the present through to an FACup success would be a dignified conclusion to his tenure at the Emirates. Time for change.

  5. WENGER OUT

    Mar 22, 2014, 17:30 #47905

    Thank you jjetplane, it's great to see a team play with so much positivity and freedom. Great to see players making a very modest living playing for the love of the game and actually forming real relationships with the die-hard fans. I dream of the day when the same freedom and enjoyment returns to Arsenal - Hopefully when Wenger leaves and Kroeke decides to cash in, we might finally see our faceless corporation turn back into a football club run for the fans.

  6. maguiresbridge gooner

    Mar 22, 2014, 17:20 #47904

    Don't usually comment at this time on a Saturday regardless if we lose or win although some like to, i like to wait for the Editors report on Sunday. But after yet another humiliation i'll make an exception, and i doubt even the Ed will wait until Sunday. All i'll say for now is lets hope and pray the news we wake up to tomorrow is this old has been,s resignation.

  7. jjetplane

    Mar 22, 2014, 17:13 #47903

    WENGER OUT watched loads of football outside of premier since 2005 and remember seeing Cambridge ages ago and thinking what a great little side. Good luck with that and my very little team Eastbourne Utd are two games from Wembley in the Vase. Seems impossible but thought that before we played Morpeth and hit them for 6. We were 4 up at half time. Now why does that sound so familiar? Today is just beyond awful. A total embarrasment for a club with a manager on the wages of a failing state. Something has been wrong for a very long time and this 'oh we will dust off' and get on with it. Reminds of that Mayor in the JAWS movie. Here's the line. Everyone knows you sent that team out. Reckon Terry was feeling sorry for Arsenal on that pitch. Can we have Villa's manager please.

  8. KC

    Mar 22, 2014, 17:08 #47902

    The worry is who can make a football decision at the club. If there was someone they would have questioned wenger by now. How can they sit there watch and not question the same process being played out season after season. The only answer is money, that's their god not trophies. The board get away with it because there is still no loud campaign against them and wenger from the fans. Some still support him. We are run by a football no nothing board who let wenger dictate. Sadly the only thing that will bring change is finishing outside the top four or wenger himself says goodbye. Gazidis has stated there is cash, wenger acts like scrouge and we the fans suffer at high cost. We require a winner as a manager who hates losing as much as we do but also an owner that demands all weapons are utilised in trying to ensure we are the best we can be.

  9. allybear

    Mar 22, 2014, 17:02 #47901

    Do those that want Wenger out really mean it or will a few wins and maybe a cup win forgive all of the embarrassing defeats? I have been saying for years that he should be replaced and today its another horrible result. Replace him now with Van Gaal and try to get some stability and consistency.

  10. WENGER OUT

    Mar 22, 2014, 17:01 #47900

    At least my second team Cambridge United are still in with a shout of a trophy, playing at Wembley tomorrow. To think they might win more than Wenger has in the last 9 years, embarrassing. AMBER ARMY!

  11. DW Thomas

    Mar 22, 2014, 16:56 #47899

    33 year old Rosicky had more guts and determination than any other Arsenal player. Arteta surely must be a sub, the game flew by him! Two goals he jogged and defended lazily. Sure we have our injuries, but what was the point of KK coming in? 1000th game and one of the worst of his career. Gloating with ego th size of Everest merely yesterday, humbled down to earth today! We need new ideas and a motivator. How can he accept his pay after an embarrassment like this? Weak willed boys vs. men. AGAIN! No big characters anymore. No one out injured is a leader. Arsene's Barcelona-copy dream is now a nightmare. Somebody out there can rebuild his team and fulfill its potential, not Wenger.

  12. jjetplane

    Mar 22, 2014, 16:49 #47898

    Man Citeh on 4, Liverpool on 5 and err Chelsea had a laugh and scored 6! At this rate we should be nearer to Fulham than this lot. WE ARe BUILDINg & AFFEcIADO - my favourite track too! Along with Teardrop Explodes Treason & Wire's Cartographer Song. The list is endless and all cool ****. Citeh just scored another and the Prof is emptying his safe! My little team got another 6 this week. Can we get to Wembley? Can Arsenal?

  13. Aylesbury Gooner

    Mar 22, 2014, 16:39 #47897

    Why was Flamini not on from the start needed to be organised and strong at the back in a game this important but our defence was found wanting again and played too far up the park absolute joke. 4th place yet again Time to go Mr Wenger and take that poor excuse for a striker with you.

  14. smithy

    Mar 22, 2014, 16:34 #47896

    Disgraceful.how many times do we need to witness this.Either he goes or three quarters of the squad.It cannot keep happening.Bring in klopp I say.

  15. Its up for grabs now

    Mar 22, 2014, 16:24 #47895

    We are all hacked off, but stop having a go at Stevieo, he is simply using sarcasm to display his own frustrations.

  16. Gooner89

    Mar 22, 2014, 16:20 #47894

    Steveio. Your comments are an embarrassing defense of the inept one. You say we will learn from this. What like we learnt from Liverpool 5-1. Man City 6-3. Losing a cup final to Birmingham. Getting dumped from the cups by Bradford, Blackburn and Wigan. Blowing a 4-0 lead at Newcastle. Losing at Wigan when 2-0 up with ten mins left. Do me a favour. AW is exactly what Morinho said he was. A failure, a joke, a loser. Get out Wenger and take the failures with you. Enough is enough. Our great club is a laughing stock. If that doesn't break your heart then I am lost for words.

  17. Silly Billy

    Mar 22, 2014, 16:11 #47893

    i think arsene should tell the players that the supporters don't care that we lost 6-0 to mourinho then again he dont do team talks or after match interviews now either, so somebody else will have to tell them , it will all be forgotten when we beat cardiff that is until we play city then arsene will have to tell the players that it don't matter to the supporters if we get beat .

  18. WENGER OUT

    Mar 22, 2014, 16:07 #47892

    Is anyone surprised by today's result? I wasn't! How can you be when it's the same thing every year? No more match predictions please Ron... No more Wenger please Arsenal.

  19. jjetplane

    Mar 22, 2014, 16:05 #47891

    BADARSE Here is the general Kundera timeline - early days 'the lightness of being' soon to morph into 'days of laughter and forgetting' and now we arrive at 'the joke'. Won't even mention Dostoievski but I think 'a no press show says it..... Forever Changes - what an album!

  20. Stevieo

    Mar 22, 2014, 15:59 #47890

    Dave, that’s where you are going wrong. You need to forget these 8-2 and 5-1 defeats. Put them to the back of your mind and remember the 4-0 win over Coventry or the 4-1 v Sunderland as a marker of where we are. If you can’t forget them, then at least make excuses for these thrashings. The 8-2 was unavoidable, as it was illegal to strengthen before the transfer deadline day. The 5-1 was very unfortunate. That in my book was one of those ‘what ifs’ games. Had we won the toss of the coin and kicked towards the Anfield Road End in the first half, I think we would have won. See, this burying your head in the sand is quite easy if you put your mind to it.

  21. DW Thomas

    Mar 22, 2014, 15:52 #47889

    A loss is certainly not a loss. Goal differential? Oh how some fans can excuse Wenger for anything! He has presided over some of the most embarrassing results in our history. 8-2 at OT, all three terrible losses this season, CL semis with United, and the list goes on and on! Biggest win for Mourinho at Chelsea? Biggest win for Chelsea vs . Arsenal? This is minor loss. This was a potential title deciding game that would have given us a chance for glory unseen in 9 years! Utter shambles. Absolutely no more patience for the arrogance and tactical stupidity of our manager! What a joke that golden cannon is! No matter how much time that Invincibles season earned, Wenger's time surely is up? It is an embarrassment to be an Arsenal fan and/or player today! And the FA cup is an absolute must win! Still that wouldn't be enough to give him a new contract? His comments better be full of apology too. So sick of hearing excuses when inaction in transfers are his own undoing. Could have had both Hazard and Cahill! But no, we dither and wait for the wheels to come off, EVERY YEAR! Seething!

  22. Bard

    Mar 22, 2014, 15:48 #47888

    That was a spanking. The game was over in 10 minutes. Difficult to see how we can't continue like this. Heartily drubbed by Liverpool, Man City and now Chelsea. We need a massive rethink at the club. The board will be bricking it, what's their plan B. None of them have the first clue about Football. Was today a defining moment?

  23. Stevieo

    Mar 22, 2014, 15:32 #47887

    This is where Wenger earns his money. I think the pre match team talk is overrated (if there ever was one?). The post match talk is vital. He’ll be working overtime in the changing room now, picking the players spirits up. The players need to be reassured that poor refereeing and once again the rules of the game have conspired against us. This mauling is just another one-off that we will learn from. I just hope he is stressing to this gaggle of multi millionaires that this level of performance will be accepted by the fans, because to question this would make them Spurs fans. We just have to dust ourselves down and pick ourselves up for the next game, and put this to the back of our minds. Spank Swansea on Tuesday, and all will be forgotten. Oh, and let’s not forget the best line used by the apologists. A 1-0 defeat is no different to a 6-0 defeat. A loss is a loss!

  24. Its up for grabs now

    Mar 22, 2014, 15:22 #47885

    An interesting stat after today's humiliation, 50% of the total number of goals conceded in this premiership campaign have come against our supposed three rivals for the title, all away from home. Unlike my call sign it certainly not up for grabs anymore for us this season, if indeed it ever was! For the love of God Wenger go, you have so clearly once again demonstrated your total ineptitude when faced with decent opposition.

  25. Westlower

    Mar 22, 2014, 15:14 #47884

    Feel sorry for the Ox after his recent brilliant performances. Everything he attempted today went wrong. Should there have been a red card with the ball going wide of the goal? Can only guess he was substituted at half time because his head had gone. Presumably Kos is injured. Why do we seem to get red cards & penalties against us in vital games? Game up after 17 mins. Too many important key players missing. Bad, bad day!

  26. KC

    Mar 22, 2014, 15:10 #47883

    Embarrassing again and again same tactics even when we lose our best players to injuries. Anfield nothing learnt, Seriously I know there are fans of arteta, Rosicky, poldolski, giroud but these players are not good enough. Our soft underbelly shows itself again we had to keep it tight for 60 mins but we play like its a friendly I feel for our away fans. Not sure I will renew my season ticket if wenger stays because he keeps doing the same thing and fails again and again we are a home team only as soon as we travel against the best we are a joke. He makes mourinho look a world beater. No protection from a very lightweight midfield players losing possession no responsibility no threat up front it's depressing and I want change.

  27. alan whiffin

    Mar 22, 2014, 15:06 #47882

    Arsene ,time to go ,should have gone 6/7 years ago ,but please go

  28. Moscow Gooner

    Mar 22, 2014, 14:57 #47881

    Shell-shocked frankly. How could he set the team up like that again after Anfield?? And Flamini sent on 4 goals too late...? In some ways an extremely appropriate match for the 1000th because all the flaws of the Wenger regime were laid bare. FA Cup or no FA Cup we need a change in the Summer.

  29. The singing Fat Lady

    Mar 22, 2014, 14:48 #47879

    Tactically inept today, embarrassing, not able to motivate the team and brainwashed with all the plaudits, it’s now time to go Mr Wenger. So long and thank you for the memories although very distant. Take a bow and leave at the end of the season. The pathetic attempt to sign Suárez should have sent alarm bells ringing, how stupid to offer 1p above £40M and not go in at £50. Missing out on Higuaín as well because of dithering was classic Wenger, leaving us with only one recognised striker who wife is messing with his mind!!Why the HELL wasn’t Flamini played from the start? You got it wrong again Wenger and while you have got some sort of legendary status, go at the end of the season and let’s start a have a fresh start with a new manager

  30. MBGOONER

    Mar 22, 2014, 14:34 #47878

    what an absolute disgrace. 3 more years of this groundhog sh*t.Wenger please resign Now.sucess 9 years ago does'nt allow you to keep failing.please please do us a favour and f**k off.

  31. Danny

    Mar 22, 2014, 13:57 #47877

    The sad thing the AKB's should realize now , is if Maureen was Arsenal coach, we will be wining instead of Chelsea. Maureen is tactically superior in every department, mentality as coach and his players plays like him at any cost Unlike Wenger brittle and weak and does not adapt to changes to Game. its Arsenal Achilles heel, weak and brittle like the frog. Maureen is laughing and saying i was right is saying Wenger is a Failure. Good on him to tell the truth The quicker these AKB realize the better. Also the sad part is the broad is clueless! Come on Arsenal get rid out this idiot. If he stays it will frustrate and anger more FANS!. Surely we all want one thing. Win things!! and i cannot see it understand this OLD coach! Next you can see CITEH, UNITED, CHELSEA and even Liverpool strengthening, and what will our coach do- **** all!, pardon the french We need a change now, not reward failures

  32. DW Thomas

    Mar 22, 2014, 13:35 #47876

    No Flamini, poor, shambolic defending and giveaways. What was Wenger's team talk--dont give a s..t!!?? What a tactically clueless manager. Same s..t, different day. Just like the Liverpool game. Never been this pissed off 15 minutes into a game. What was Ox thinking?? This team will always reflect this manager. Brittle, no ideas, bottlers in any serious game with meaning and something on the line. They have Eto'o, we have Giroud. He scores, that says it all really. How on earth was Flamini left on the bench? What is Kim Kallstrom here for? Sanogo? What's the point . We are failing again, just not good enough and it is like déjà vu every season. 1000th game, too many failures. Where's that golden cannon now? Should have been a rubber chicken! Mistake after mistake after mistake! This manager's brilliant success over 10 years ago is the only thing that prevents seeing his reign of the last 9 years as utter failure. All smoke and mirrors to make a profit. We are no longer a club that desires trophies! Money over winning, how utterly depressing!

  33. Walk away Wenger

    Mar 22, 2014, 13:31 #47875

    No need to get worked up over this.No surprises here. The Failure Specialist can never show his worth against the big sides. It will never happen especially against a Mourinho side.forget it. Against the best sides our best results are draws at home and loses away. When you put boys against men that is what happens.our problems on the field go way beyond having a tactically inept manager.Team has no steel, no grit and no heart. It just a miniature bunch of mentally soft so called 'mechanics'.With Wenger at the helm we won't win a plastic cup.

  34. underacheiver

    Mar 22, 2014, 13:25 #47874

    Lets hope he does the honorable thing and walk at the end of the season. Even the biggest Wenger sycophant can surely see that his day has past. The FA cup would be a nice retirement present.

  35. Gav Lee

    Mar 22, 2014, 13:18 #47873

    How embarrassing do our performances have to be before Wenger calls it a day? If this finishes 6 or 7 then it should be 1000 games and out.

  36. danny

    Mar 22, 2014, 13:11 #47872

    down 3-0 already to chelsea. Maureen is right Wenger is a failure. WHERE IS FLAMINI!

  37. Gooner89

    Mar 22, 2014, 13:07 #47871

    If there are still any other AKBs on this website please turn out the lights when you leave. An absolute disgrace of a performance with nothing learnt from Man City or Liverpool. Wenger out

  38. maguiresbridge gooner

    Mar 22, 2014, 11:46 #47869

    BADARSE, watched the programme myself Arsene who? i think it was called, i enjoyed it but was disappointed it focused on what David Dein had to say. I know DD was responsible for bringing him here but i would liked to have heard from the likes of Kronke, Pat Rice, and more of the players old and new. It would have been better than watching Wilshire making a bollocks of himself with a spud on Sports relief.

  39. Seven Kings Gooner

    Mar 22, 2014, 10:04 #47868

    Ron - Doing a walk today and if Arsene celebrates with a win on his 1000th game I'll give the hospice charity an extra £50 - here's hoping Arsene has that smug grin to celebrate "Ron's vision"

  40. BADARSE

    Mar 22, 2014, 9:09 #47867

    You nailed it westlower, love it! That rendition was a little like Wink Martindale's 'Deck of Cards'. Here's to today, the moment of all possibilities. @Bard just discovered Hiawatha said it before Sylvia Plath, ha ha

  41. Westlower

    Mar 22, 2014, 9:01 #47866

    @Badarse, The Form Book is my history book + daily read for present & future. It only contains facts & not opinions. No editorials or features, only the recording of events that have just passed. Misreading of the facts ends in failure, frustration & financial loss. Good judgement is rewarded, boosting self esteem & bank balance. It also teaches how to cope with losing and never to be too dogmatic in ones views (with the exception of AFC). Nothing ever stands still and spotting the improver is the key to success (the slow one now will later be fast - Dylan). Suicide is never an option as the world never ends after a loss because tomorrow all things are possible - hope springs eternal. The never ending story that gets updated 'minute by minute' - Doobie Brothers.

  42. BADARSE

    Mar 22, 2014, 8:59 #47865

    Good morning Bard, what a great response. Kerouac, you and jjetplane-impressive. Funny Sylvia Plath has a quote which I thought was an original of mine for donkey's years. ( I know nowt, as the Yorkshire Socrates once said). I have insisted that 'man is the arrow but woman is the bow'. Quite good for an Arsenal supporter don't you think? ha ha. Then I found out that this lady had said it long before me, drat! These threads that I keep putting out there just illustrate how our reactions and responses to each other would change dramatically if it was a real-life connection. Our real-life type connection is the game today. Let's just do it, for all of us! Team talk over.

  43. Bard

    Mar 22, 2014, 8:11 #47864

    BADARSE; so many books have changed my life and thinking. Kerouac in the early days, Hunter Thompson, anything by Carl Jung, Moby Dick for starters and got through Proust one long summer. reading it was like being on drugs.Currently reading The Son by Philip Meyer, monster of a book. Might have to resort to Syliva Plath if we doing beat Maureen although Ron suggests its a done deal !!!

  44. BADARSE

    Mar 22, 2014, 8:02 #47863

    Just heard an interview with David Dein on Arsene's 1000th game. He talked of his meeting. An unassuming chap with NHS-like glasses who was very charming and articulate. He said he had a 'light bulb' moment when he saw his name 'Arsene Wenger'-'Arsenal Manager', and felt it had to be. He spoke of their friendship that they go out for meals but never if Arsenal lose. He said he is such a bad loser. He mopes, and isn't good company. The defeat affects him personally and really troubles him. Now none of that came as a surprise to me. Yet some would have it that he 'throws' games, sacrifices other matches for his 'CL obsession', and purposely resists improvement knowing it will signal more defeats than otherwise, just out of stubbornness. I do believe that some should reassess their character assessments of others. If you are successful at the attempt you may find people you come into contact with take on a different hue. Here endeth yet another lesson, be seated.

  45. BADARSE

    Mar 22, 2014, 7:28 #47862

    Good morning gentlemen and ladies. Moscow Gooner, interesting observation chum. It is artistic license to be able to speak of 'modern era' as a loose term, but a reflective mood ensues nonetheless. As a young rebellious lad I was locking horns constantly with the established order which insisted that any English male had to have 'short back, and sides'. My usual response if it got that far was, 'Hang on, men have worn long hair since the dawn of time, (now when was that? A bit of artistic license there), and since the First World War men had their hair cut short, (mainly to avoid nits transference), so how is long hair a problem?' In fact long hair was the norm. Society reacts in solid plodding steps and is fuelled by fear and ignorance. Then of course we have Sky and the Sun pouring petrol on the fire. Wow, all of that and no porridge yet. Time for my second cup of 'Rosie'. Any books to suggest guys?

  46. Frank

    Mar 22, 2014, 7:25 #47861

    At the end of the day the facts say Wenger IS the best Arsenal manager ever and IS the worst ever Arsenal manager.

  47. Moscow Gooner

    Mar 22, 2014, 5:21 #47860

    Re the reference to it being the first time that 'Four teams [are] competing for the title in the modern era' - if the modern era extends as far back as 71/72 (it does for me!) then Man City, Liverpool, Derby and Leeds were all competing for the title to the last kick of the season. Reference Patrick's book on Chapman: a good try but irritating that a great story is so smothered with extraneous detail on parallel events: Dr Crippen, Jack the Ripper, World War I, Oswald Moseley etc etc etc. I got the feeling that this was a solid newspaper profile filled out to make a book... The definitive Chapman biography is still to be written.

  48. Love affecionado

    Mar 22, 2014, 0:36 #47859

    The song your thinking of is - "Maybe the people would be the times or Between Clarke and Hilldale" A mouthful! But a great song and what a fantastic voice Arthur Lee had.

  49. Ron

    Mar 21, 2014, 22:30 #47858

    Bard - Yes, some decent guys on here mate. Don't fret about tomorrow. in the bag - 2-1 Gunners! ha. Lets hope. G nite buddy.

  50. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Mar 21, 2014, 22:01 #47857

    jj: Forever Changes has that great song "what is happening and where have you been" on it. (If only my people were the something or other???) Apparently it was made when Arthur Lee thought (mistakedly) he was not long for this earth. Great album anyway and still essential listening for anyone looking to get hip. As for tomorrow, we've got to get it done! The Chavs must have their plastic empire popped by a certain OG goal going in from somewhere around his nether region.

  51. jjetplane

    Mar 21, 2014, 20:07 #47853

    Forever Changes Best hippy album ever! & just a tad pertinent to ongoing revolution requiring noticeable tweaks (any post for me Sanogo?) re Goonerland. Like the lyric says here 'Shall I tell you about my team/they say they're a team of the future .....' (Gooner of the World). Believe me - I really am on meds. ha ha! May we all carry a French, smug, grin come the phone-ins.

  52. Stevieo

    Mar 21, 2014, 19:07 #47851

    Disagree with the team talk part of this article. If ever we needed a team talk it's tomorrow. I just don't see it registering with our guys. I think it's Mourinho spitting feathers about Wenger's 'fear of failure' statement. He'll be the one getting his team fired up if anything, and he'll want blood.

  53. Bard

    Mar 21, 2014, 19:03 #47850

    Love reading the posts guys, philosophy, politics music terrific. CG does the site a disservice when he says its all betting odds. Perhaps it has something to do with the enormity of tomorrows game. Getting turned over by Maureen and his merry crew will seriously p*** me off and kill off our title hopes.

  54. CT Gooner

    Mar 21, 2014, 18:53 #47849

    I'm very concerned for tomorrow. I don't think we played well last week, we won against the old enemy, but we didn't out play them so we really need to raise our game. We can wish that the team will silence the Portuguese Muppet, but his team will be out to show last week was a fluke and Wenger's team can't beat them. I think this motivation will negate our players going out for their manager. Let's hope we have a game plan to get the maximum points, but we all know Wenger only has Plan A, so let's hope that's enough...

  55. maguiresbridge gooner

    Mar 21, 2014, 18:14 #47847

    Ron, why don't you get yourself hooked up with Kevin and the guys on the podcast, they could have you strumming away in the background and we could all hear you.

  56. BADARSE

    Mar 21, 2014, 17:56 #47845

    jjetplane, just read your last post to my wife and said, 'He is a colourful character.' she responded with, 'Yes, psychedelic!' Let's hope Goonermobiles are kicked!

  57. jjetplane

    Mar 21, 2014, 17:44 #47842

    BADARSE Descartes - whaddha player he was! For natural skills it will have to be Rousseau. Team ego goes to Voltaire. RON I will neither see nor hear match tomorrow cause of some silly work and will be free at 3 to tread lightly, or cycle quickly through hailstorm to awaiting news of ..... triumph and hubris and bloke with big face shadow and hair like sofa innards going 'to the car park in his mind' and kicking the first goonermobile he sees.

  58. Ron

    Mar 21, 2014, 17:36 #47841

    BADARSE - That old Socrates had good close control mate didnt he. Chain smoked too. Had my share of hair when it was handed out. Must have got the elixir of life too, as he looked good in 82. Never have thought he was a couple of thou years (and some) old. Reckon i might write to Arsene for a game at right back! Have a great week end guys. i shall be strumming some Dylan and maybe a bit of Albert Lee stuff (if i can!) later.

  59. Ron

    Mar 21, 2014, 17:26 #47839

    JJ - Gunners 4 Hull 0 FAC. Chelsea 1 Gunners 2 tomorrow. Can there be any right minded person who doesnt want Arsene to have that smug grin, we all know and love welded on and wide as his face while that other classless cretin skulks off down the tunnel at that hole tomorrow? I think not.

  60. BADARSE

    Mar 21, 2014, 17:24 #47838

    jjetplane, 'I know nothing' was owned by Socrates long before Manuel uttered those immortal words to Basil. He was a nitwit-dragonfly, you are a font of knowledge, how many knew that before I coaxed it out of you? As Popeye said,' I think, therefore I yam!' @Ron, you are probably right and the Crimean episode will fizzle out, all the western leaders are hoping so. There is an underlying fear that the gangster Putin may think he can now clean up and begin marching into other old Soviet countries. Many in Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Georgia etc are a little fearful right now.

  61. jjetplane

    Mar 21, 2014, 17:13 #47837

    RON Nice summation of all things historically Russian. Now if we could just pack off Glazerman and install the Uzbek blokie (thanks Badarse) we might get a nice and easy does it change of order. That's after we win the glorious Cup. We will - won't we? And the league. That would be the way for the great man to bow out. I think he will.

  62. Ron

    Mar 21, 2014, 16:56 #47836

    Bard - Westie appears to read the Daily Telegraph though. Surely he deserves some latitude for getting carried away with a fiction dressed up as a fact? If it was a woman it would be the local sink estate minger dressed up in clothes shes just whipped from House of Frazer.

  63. jjetplane

    Mar 21, 2014, 16:49 #47834

    We await Aristotle's reign at Highbury. Reading Plato does not make a conversion. So like Socrates you are intelligent enough to know 'you know nothing'. Old Soc was a bit like George so Wenger with his 'I did not see it' is perhaps latter-day Miltonian in the abstract. Who we got on saturday anyway? Who is gonna be our nutter? I do like Bassey's version of 'Fool on the Hill' Its all about the drummer. I know it wasn't Ringo.

  64. Bard

    Mar 21, 2014, 16:45 #47833

    Dear me Westie, where did you get the idea that people on here want to change manager every 18 months? What's Daniel Levy got to with anything? Russians, gas and oligarchs losing money. I loved the post but I think you need to go and lie down in a dark room. Wengeritis is getting to you. Almost everyone on here thinks Wenger's been very good for the club. the disagreements are about whether he's the right man to take us forward. I think your enthusiasm for Wenger and his methods gets over done. i seem to remember you posting in no particular order, the squad is big enough er.. really, Bendtner and Sanogo are good enough back ups to Giroud. Enthusiasm is one thing but sound judgement is another.

  65. Ron

    Mar 21, 2014, 16:40 #47832

    Guys. Forget your sanctions and your debates on Crimea. Ukraine arent truly that bothered really as long as further territorial aquisition ambition doesnt follow on the part of Putin. It was a 'gift' to them about half a century/60 back to settle whichever slavic dispute or another needed quelling at that time. Handed over by Nikita Kruschev actually. Russia wont turn off the gas either. Their own economy couldnt cope without exporting it. All this Crimea thing will pass and be old news before you know it. These politicians are posturing and sabre rattling to suit ends that have little to do with Crimea guys. Sorry to burst your bubble of exitement Westie. I can see you were salivating over Usmanov rotting in the next cell to Abram! Cardinal error mate. You took what a politician/s said at face value, when there never is any.

  66. BADARSE

    Mar 21, 2014, 16:19 #47831

    WeAreBuilding, westlower is reporting an opposition politician in Russia. The politician knows Cameron and the rest will pussyfoot. He knows that with Cameron it's all sabre-rattling for the startled home market here in the UK. Cameron knows he must say something legitimate as nothing here at home is going on, so feels the spotlight searching. Now if a celebrity Big Brother contestant was being voted out, or Simon Cowell's final of 'Pop Tart' was being broadcast he would use these as a political smokescreen. Government leaders are effete nowadays; mobsters rule in some quarters-like Putin and other terrorists, and big business the other side of the board. We never get to go up the ladders as a snake is always looming. Oh and jjetplane, my high-octane, platonic soothsayer, I am a Socrates man, but not a POB or a SKB, just a preference for one giant over another...a bit like Radford over Kennedy.

  67. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Mar 21, 2014, 15:57 #47829

    Westlower; forget about Cameron and the posturing over sanctions. All the Russians have to do is threaten to turn off the gas.

  68. BADARSE

    Mar 21, 2014, 15:57 #47828

    So westlower, since Herbie just twelve managers. It means many Arsene 'haters', can probably count them on two hands. Just an amusing aspect to your post, I have been saying for a while that vetoing the Winter Games in Russia was a time for action by western states. Now we are basically powerless due to the ramifications of the network of inter-dependency. A nice turn would be freezing assets and revoking passports of wicked clowns like Abramovich. Usmanov though a Putin fan, is an Uzbeck not a Russian so he gets to stay, but only under protest.

  69. Amos

    Mar 21, 2014, 14:23 #47823

    PB is right to point out that Wenger is not a tactical manager in the Mourinho sense. That's what, in my opinion, makes Wenger's teams tactically more appealing and attractive to watch. You can see something of a similar change in City this season under Pelligrini than under the more pragmatic but sometimes sclerotic Mancini. That's certainly part of Wenger's philosophy "I believe it is always easier to correct the defensive side than getting your team to score goals",he said a couple of seasons back. "When you score goals you always have a chance." It's not that Wenger can't coach defense - a Wenger team once went a season conceding fewer goals than any GG Arsenal side managed - it's simply that he believes that's the best way to get results. His consistency and win percentages rates make his point. At the same time, if you were to give Tony Pulis or Allardyce Mourinho's resources and budget you'll probably get similar results and performances.

  70. Westlower

    Mar 21, 2014, 14:00 #47821

    Quotes from Peter Hill-Wood: "Without Arsene and the success he has brought we would never have been able to finance the new stadium (£390m)." "You look at other people trying to raise the finance to build a stadium - it's just not possible." "It was going to take some time to pay off the main part of the debt. We realised it was a long term plan that was not likely to reap benefits immediately." "I think he trusted us not to have a knee-jerk reaction if it went wrong or did not succeed as quickly as we hoped. We obviously hoped he would stay but he is not the sort of person who jumps from one job to another." "I think Stan Kroenke is the ideal man. He understands the heritage and wants Arsenal to remain as the Arsenal we know and love.I think it's stable."AW doesn't think his job is finished yet. I don't think his enthusiasm is diminished at all."

  71. Westlower

    Mar 21, 2014, 13:31 #47820

    Story in today's Telegraph reveals that a prominent Russia opposition politician said Western governments response to the Crimean crisis should include seizing the assets of wealthy Russian businessmen, including Mr Abramovich & Alisher Usmanov. Those of you wanting to replace the Yanks with the Russian may have boarded the wrong ship.

  72. maguiresbridge gooner

    Mar 21, 2014, 12:47 #47818

    Always enjoy PB on the Sunday Supplement, good interview and pictured with a Bust that never ages.

  73. chris dee

    Mar 21, 2014, 11:28 #47813

    Patrick there's the problem.In some some matches you have to be a tactical manager to get results.Sending the players out in every game to 'play our game'is just pie in the sky. But I love the guy and hope he can shut up a few gobs up this season.

  74. Westlower

    Mar 21, 2014, 11:21 #47812

    It's 89 years since Herbert Chapman was appointed Arsenal manager and since that time AFC have had just 12 managers. To those Gooners gagging to mimic the Daniel Levy model of a new manager every 18 months (on average since Wengers appointment), perhaps you simply don't understand what Arsenal football club is all about? Simply ask the elders in your family and they'll be able to enlighten you about AFC class & stability. Failing that, the Not So Holy Reverend Badarse will have a quiet educational word or two in your shell like.

  75. Ron

    Mar 21, 2014, 10:57 #47810

    Ive met PB. Hes the best writer in the business too. 'Specialist in failure'. You really should shut up, Showing your ignorance publicly never is advisable. Naming y'self after the tacky b-----d who coined the phrase is even more mindless.

  76. Specialist in Failure

    Mar 21, 2014, 10:34 #47808

    In the run-up to Arsene's 1000th game, you hsave managed to find an interview with possibly The most ignorant, Arsene apologist there is out there. Cheerleader of the AKB brigade. Hilarious. It doesn't change the fact that Wenger's a Specialist in Failure. Nothing will.

  77. BADARSE

    Mar 21, 2014, 9:56 #47803

    Thank you, a pleasant interview of a very good writer.