Decline and Fall

Online Ed: Arsenal fail to defeat Swansea at home



Decline and Fall


Wow. Arsenal’s season is starting to collapse like a house of cards in slow motion. Yesterday evening they were even unable to achieve the type of flat track bully result that took them to first place in the league until things started to unravel in February. The run of results since beating Palace at the start of that month reads L-D-W-L-W-L-D. Title form it ain’t and with Manchester City and Everton on the horizon, there is a distinct possibility after the visit to Goodison Park that the Gunners will have sunk to fifth place.

“Accidents” was how the manager described the defeats at Eastlands, Anfield and Stamford Bridge, which struck myself and many others as an incredulous statement. However, there is every chance the season might end up resembling a car crash. For me it has echoes of the 2010-11 campaign in which the team won only two of their final eleven league matches, and lost in the League Cup Final to boot.

The manager praised the spirit and effort of the players, but I thought that, aside from the period when the two goals were scored, they looked ponderous and lackadaisical. The goals came because, after over 70 minutes of the game had been played, the team finally drove at Swansea and took players on instead of choosing a tika-taka pass.

Once they went ahead, we were back to the old problem of failing to see a game out, which I thought had been eradicated. Yes, the equalizer was an unfortunate own goal, but it was a consequence of Arsenal failing to control the game in the final minutes as they should be more than capable of doing. For me, it looked like they were gambling a little too much trying to make it 3-1 rather than concentrating on the basics. Kieran Gibbs did well to create the first goal, but at 2-1 up, did he really need to be so high up the field so often? Wenger said after the game that he thought his team were too conservative at 2-1 up and did not commit numbers forward, which is the opposite of what I saw. Swansea had more than one chance to break. Maybe I was watching a different game.

I could have lived with the go for the kill approach (at least in terms of numbers) I thought I witnessed if there was more than one goal in it, but Swansea were offered the chance to counter attack due to the numbers the home team committed to attacking moves. No need. Where was the instruction from the bench? Where was the common sense, the mentality that saw them go on a ten match unbeaten run at the end of last season, beating eight teams of Swansea’s standard home and away? If the manager’s opinion was that they were actually being conservative, god alone knows what the side would look like if they weren’t.

So Arsenal face Manchester City on Saturday in a game which looks like it has away win written all over it. And then go to Everton. Oh dear.

Mind you, if the club did finish outside the Champions League places, surely Arsene Wenger would go. It was suggested by one caller on the post-match phone-ins that this would be the biggest trophy of all. Certainly, a large number of Arsenal fans just want to see something different than a team who are incapable of remaining in the title race beyond spring.

I said it on Sunday and I will say it again. An FA Cup win and a top four finish would allow the manager to go out on a high. But before that, if the paucity of recent performances continues, things could turn ugly in the stadium, in spite of cup progress. If Manchester City establish a two or three goal lead on Saturday, who can predict how the fans might react? The fear is that it is going to get worse before it gets better, as the players are looking distinctly average now that the business end of the season has arrived. We’ve seen that a few times before in recent years, and it’s difficult to see it changing until there is someone different in the dugout.

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  1. divingrooney

    Mar 27, 2014, 11:55 #48447

    Finally, online gooner and arsenalnewsreview and gloat together. It took 4 massive injuries to reach here, but hey if you reach there, thats what matters. Finally a fight to 4th and an FA cup Wembley is the "only" thing available to Arsenal. Hopefully, some with defensive nous like Moyes, or tactical genius like serially sacked Laudrup, will take control of Arsenal and we will be happy again. Amen.

  2. Sod Off

    Mar 27, 2014, 9:13 #48429

    STARTING to collapse? Huh! The whole thing has become Mesi, I suppose they'll sneak a win against citeh now that it doesn't Mata. Whichever way you look at it, Arsenal are now ****tu!

  3. Bazzer

    Mar 26, 2014, 22:22 #48409

    I am normally one to read these comments and noddingly agree, and then sit quietly and let Arsenal get on with it, but feel I need to let my rant out now. I watched both games this week and I thought what Mourino said about Wenger would of instilled a bit of passion and grit from the team, but they capitulated in the same way as they did against Liverpool, they have no balls for the big games and our team fall apart/panic when they are under the cosh. We got away with it against the spuds anyone else we would have paid for our performance. How on earth can we compete for a title with one forward, look at all the teams around us they all have options up front, we have Bendtner, what an embarrassment! I am sorry to say this, but I would not be bothered if we did not make europe next year because it might make the board get off their money grabbing Arses and make a change at the helm. We have not changed the way we play in the last 7 years and it is clearly not working because when we play a decent team they know how to play against us. I could go on forever with this but I am really wasting my time, because will anything change? Unfortunately my faith in Wenger has now totally gone, I thought I would never say this but we are in need a new direction.

  4. maguiresbridge gooner

    Mar 26, 2014, 22:21 #48408

    Gooner Paddy, good shout i'm quite sure there's a lot more discussions like that going on in pubs and clubs around the country and it's sad but that's what it's come to. A lot of the old hands on here have always loved and valued the FA Cup including myself, and have thought for a long time and indeed said it on here time after time that it's the cup we should be really going for and concentrating on when others were advocating throwing it or playing a weakened team (that's if we have any weaker) so we can concentrate on others supposedly more important. The FA cup is a fantastic cup to win and a fantastic day out and i would love to see us winning it again, and if we get to the final and it's a big if i hope to be there, no doubt so will all those who dismissed it as irrelevant, probably in the best seats. Yes there's a lot wondering and thinking exactly the same way as you and that is sad but that's what this has been of a manager has driven us to.

  5. Its up for grabs now

    Mar 26, 2014, 21:45 #48406

    Gooner Paddy - You are definitely not alone. My best mate who like me has been supporting Arsenal since 1970, have recently had the very same thoughts.

  6. Mark from Aylesbury

    Mar 26, 2014, 21:10 #48404

    Gooner Paddy - I know exactly how you feel. Can't bear the thought of us surrendering in the cup but it may well cause enough groundswell of opinion to finally get rid. You can tell that the board are businessmen first due to their grand plan of staged replacement of Wenger over 2 years. They ignore the complete obvious that no one is going to perform to any great effort when they know he is going. The Emirates is going to turn into the coliseum with Wenger being the man fed to the lions. Hopefully he will see sense and go.

  7. DW Thomas

    Mar 26, 2014, 21:07 #48403

    Oh the horror, the horror. Our own Heart of Darkness as Arsenal fans descends upon us. Another season, another 4th place trophy. What joy!

  8. GoonerPaddy

    Mar 26, 2014, 19:57 #48394

    A discussion started in the pub last night along the lines of your last paragraph Kevin - an FA Cup win would enable Arsene to leave on a high. However, might an FA Cup win actually persuade him to carry on? I caught myself wondering if I actually want us to win the FA Cup if there's even the slightest a risk of that happening - a though which depressed me immensely since I've always loved the FA Cup and the big day out at Wembley. Is this really what's become of me? That I wouldn't be able to enjoy an FA Cup triumph for fear of the manager staying on? Very, very sad. Anyone else feel the same way?

  9. HowardL

    Mar 26, 2014, 19:54 #48392

    Let's go and have a look at Liverpool now and then decide...

  10. jeff wright

    Mar 26, 2014, 19:27 #48391

    Different priorities were at work pre-season between Rodgers position and Wenger's. A top 4 finish for Rodgers is a success, for Wenger however, after his claims back in December that he believed he would win the league , finishing 4th will now be looked on as a failure . As for the FAC that will be a success( if he wins it) but it is not what he wanted to win . The FAC was his last trophy back in 2005 and no one seriously believes that he has hung around since to just win it again. So winning it would only be papering over the cracks and further proof that he has been a failure regarding winning the Prem and the crème de crème of his dreams plus the one trophy that he coverts more than any other on his CV ,the European Cup. The FAC though will provide an excuse for him to leave for pastures anew ,whether he wins it or not. If he finishes 5th in the Prem then even the FAC will not make this season a successful one -teams have won it and been relegated ,so really it's just a bit of a sideshow a day out for the supporters with only a Europa League place to be gained by winning the Cup .

  11. Brendan Rogers

    Mar 26, 2014, 17:54 #48388

    In fairness, I've improved Liverpool (historically the 2nd biggest and most successful club in the country) for which I deserve credit, but what have I actually won? Swap my position with Wenger's and you'd be calling for my head. People love an upward spiral and that's fair enough. 'Progress' and all that. But Arsene could finish top 4 and win a major trophy this season; whereas I could finish top 4 and potless. Yet I'm the success. Fair enough!

  12. Hi Berry

    Mar 26, 2014, 17:13 #48387

    The big problem here is that Arsenal have become a dichotomy: the fans crave success and the board are happy with the financial status quo. With Wenger having become so closely involved with the board over the stadium move it seems as if the two are indivisible and the normal separation of management and board levels are now completely obscured - hence the inability of the board to take decisive action against 'one of their own'. A Catch 22 situation if ever there was one. Irrespective of his waning ability to produce a side that will win something, as long as he can secure the Champions League revenue-flow he's bullet-proof. Arsenal seem to be very efficient with their claims of success. I read somewhere recently that Wenger argued that his teams did not suffer an end of season collapse as is the common perception, and that statistics were quoted which actually proved that to be true. Similarly one could argue that the last 16 years have been Arsenal's most successful from a consistency point of view with a top four finish in each of them - and to those of us who had to endure mid-table mediocrity throughout a most of the previous 20-30 years it's hard to argue against that. However, the truth is that despite what the statistics show we all know that, over the past 8 or 9 years, come February and March the wheels generally come off. Much as I hate to say it I think things have to get a lot worse before there is any chance of it getting better. Brendan Rogers has shown at Liverpool what a dynamic change of manager can do - and oddly enough he managed it without the petro millions of City and Chelsea and without the revenue a sixty thousand stadium generates.

  13. jjetplane

    Mar 26, 2014, 15:15 #48375

    Saw my first Arsenal match in the early 60s and continued with a coupla breaks until 2004. Watching Paddy put the penalty away on a distant screen was the beginning of my sea change. the good times were over and it was time to move on. I love football wherever I can get it and since then have seen English football throughout divisions right down to county league which is what I follow now. This helps me to get through the blatant spin that is Arsenal today and though the obscene money bull**** has practically killed the game at the 'higher levels' I can still marvel at good quality football whether it be an Everton or a Barcelona. I mention Everton because I think they are just moving up a gear at the right time and it is good for the game to see the competition. Still think ye old spuds are in with a shout and with Arsenal's quite public meltdown (the Emirates reactor) in perverse lockdown and think the rest of the season looks set for little glory and a lot of growing up to be had. Go with a lot of people on here that the faith will drift to a minimum come next season if nothing changes at the highest level. If Stan with the Prof's weathered agreement continue to produce a 'soccer product' for global consumption then I see a club that would do well to change it's name to suit it's newer market of fans here who have bought into the beautiful game mythology that when they lose it just means you dust it off and go again. We are talking product here and Jack will make as much money for Stan whether he is on the pitch or not. You may think saturday's game is a big one but the bird has flown, leaving the chicken to rub it's arse in the remaining ****. I got my eyes on a bigger game in the counties league. Dare we dream Wembley, and I am not talking about Arsenal here.

  14. Dan h

    Mar 26, 2014, 15:15 #48374

    January came and went,no investment as expected what has transpired since no real shock.Tactical planning for the opposition(lack of),pace(lack of) added to insipid passing,lack of a mobile striker all too obvious flaws.AFC,replace football with financial then you have the real picture.

  15. jjetplane

    Mar 26, 2014, 14:37 #48367

    CHRIS DEE On the head re the Barca philosophy. You can see how Fabregas is far more a squad player now as is the ever-improving Nasri at Citeh. Also tells me how it was the players 98-04 who ran the pitch and organised the total defence, with Wenger in his suit taking all the plaudits for being some kind of modern messiah who has reinvented football. Sorry - but it would be something else to see what Maureen and Fergy really think of the Wenger mythology.For the money he has taken home every month, the critism has been wafer-thin and hence the deplorable state a once proud club is now in. On the other hand, I went and saw my other little team win 9-0 in the freezing cold. Aah Football - what do we know? At least it's not all in front of a screen hey.

  16. King Jeremy

    Mar 26, 2014, 13:50 #48358

    So, as predicted by many, the shallow depth of quality in the squad shines through yet again. Stating that the Chickens are coming home to roost doesn't even come close to covering it. This lot have gone. Their heads have gone and I am now seriously worried about 4th place, with another spanking (sorry, "accident") to come this Saturday. I frankly even doubt their ability to beat Wigan, let alone (most likely) a combative Hull in the final. You would think that Arsene would do the decent thing in May, but then we all know he won't. Just like we all deep-down know that this Summer transfer window will go the same as all the rest - remember it's world cup year, and we all know there are an abundance of related excuses that OGL can trot out in defence of inactivity.You could get angry if it would actually make a jot of difference. No, Silent Stan's asset value is intact and he's still 'in the black' on his purchase, so roll on 2014-15 and another celebration of the bank balance and the perrenial challenge for the 4th place trophy. Arsenal lost it's soul when we left Highbury.

  17. UTU

    Mar 26, 2014, 13:37 #48357

    Johnny Lydon (aka John Rotten), make a good point a few years ago ' Do you ever feel like your being cheated' Arsenal fans keep paying the money, that's all Kroenke, Wenger and Co care about the 'MONEY'

  18. maguiresbridge gooner

    Mar 26, 2014, 13:34 #48356

    Are any of us really surprised? my god how many times have Arsenal fans uttered that phrase now, and the blue mancs arrive on Saturday. Everything's not rosie in the garden of arsene after all then, the mighty swans didn't roll over and allow them selves to be tickled, even though things got back to normal with plenty of tippy tappy going nowhere. Where was the instruction from the bench? (you've made me spill my coffee with that)common sense? was it ever there in the first place, mentality? you've gone too far. Of course there was the usual out come now (no not a 5 or 6 humiliation) the usual lack of everything is the best way to describe it (including a manager on the bench)the usual cock up and three points dropped. Not that there was a chance of them helping us win the prem any body who still thought that have been in the moonies to long completely brainwashed altogether, but the moonies is not the only cult who do that. So much for repaying the fans for Saturdays humiliation, maybe their waiting to do that this Saturday, a load of bollocks.

  19. Don't Piss On Me & Say It's Raining.

    Mar 26, 2014, 12:44 #48350

    Ramgun, lol, exactly what I shouted at my phone (sad that I am). Bottom line though, it doesn't matter who is saying these things the content of what is said is spot on. SADLY VERY SPOT ON!Z

  20. Nostatuesforthissquard

    Mar 26, 2014, 12:39 #48349

    Should Wenger do the right thing and call it a day at the end of the season. My worry is that he'll go upstairs and block the kind of squad investment that he begrudges paying of what he things is in the clubs best interest. Time will tell if he's right, but we need change without interference.

  21. Ramgun

    Mar 26, 2014, 12:00 #48345

    alek Wlodarz - The reason Scholes talked about Arsenal (and told the truth) was that he was asked to give his opinion! That is what he was there for.

  22. jb

    Mar 26, 2014, 11:13 #48339

    Its gone so bad now that I'm somewhere between torture and not caring any more. If ever a club needed an injection of new blood......

  23. 600NER PETE

    Mar 26, 2014, 10:59 #48336

    Some of us have seen the writing on the wall since 2008. I gave up my season ticket then and have rarely been to a match since, as I do not want to contribute money to the club whilst it is under the current regime. I still watch most matches either on satellite tv or live streaming because Arsenal have been in my blood since my first visit to Highbury in 1968.. It gives no joy that what myself and others predicted 6 seasons ago still continues to this day. In fact I have always wanted Wenger to prove us wrong and this year at times he almost had me fooled. Unfortunately things have predictably fallen apart and it is now a battle with Everton for 4th place. Everton away is a game which we must not lose. If we get a draw there I think we will just sneak 4th. If we finish 4th this gives us just enough clout to attract players that will help us finish 4th again.....and so it continues every f*%#ing year. As for the cup, I make Wigan favourites to go through as they have a manager who knows what tactics are. Our song for Wembley shouldn't be "Here we go, here we go, here we go" but "Deja vu, deja vu, deja vu!!!!"

  24. Alek Wlodarz

    Mar 26, 2014, 10:52 #48335

    Wonder why Scholes talked so much about Arsenal ... and their supporters. Hypocrisy of the highest order. But Arsene had too much on his shoulders for too long. A change is gonna come.

  25. chris dee

    Mar 26, 2014, 10:45 #48334

    Wow! Arsene has become a specialist in surrendering winning situations.No break us down if you can,no collective defence,no hard running,no tackling,no leadership,no true gladiators,no mental strength,not up for the fight.Players being indulged and allowed to play as they see fit. And remember once again what Fabrigas said when he went to Barca. 'At Arsenal we were allowed to do what we wanted on the field but at Barca I have had to learn about strict defensive organisation when we don't have the ball' And that's the most attacking team on the planet with some of the best players in the world. Absolutely floored by our lack of organisation and character overseen by an experienced and previouly succesful manager. This is way Arsene's reign ends ,not with a bang but a wimper.

  26. Arsene's nose

    Mar 26, 2014, 10:42 #48333

    He has built another team and they're still constantly dominated. What was the point of leaving Highbury. Das Projekt ist kaput. One last blast : ***k**g *****r ****er

  27. Sarf Lunden

    Mar 26, 2014, 10:28 #48331

    Does anyone think we'd be fourth if Ferguson hadn't left Utd? Our best "signing" this year has been David Moyes.

  28. Nozzer

    Mar 26, 2014, 10:20 #48329

    Compare Wengers insipid comments to those made by Paul Scholes last night. He said that he felt sorry for our supporters. I can see the team losing against Wigan because they can't take the pressure. I can't see us getting anything against City and then Everton to come, I think it could well be Thursday nights Channel Five next season. I shudder to think how the board will further rip off the fans with the extra Europa league games next season.

  29. Wibblefish

    Mar 26, 2014, 10:14 #48328

    It is just the manner in which the team are playing at the moment which is unforgivable. Where's the passion, where's the pride? I know they are professional footballers and mostly only play for the pay cheque, but surely they must also play for each other and the team? Something is rotten at our club at the moment and we desperately need someone on the inside to come out and spill the beans. Some of the senior players need to stand up. What would Tony Adams or Ian Wright have done?

  30. Any Old Lumber

    Mar 26, 2014, 10:00 #48326

    Yes indeed. Wenger is becoming a figure if derision, and deservedly so. What would it take to break the camel's back I ask? Answers on this blog please!

  31. Stuart

    Mar 26, 2014, 9:42 #48323

    This could be 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 or 2012 all over again. The fact the nothing changes is the biggest concern and has been for the past six or seven years. How can the manager just let the same thing happen every year? Where is the pride and determination to make a difference, the plan to make sure that the same mistakes aren't made every single Spring? One thing is now clear, the manager can't inspire the team or raise performances levels if they are low. He needs to go.

  32. Frank

    Mar 26, 2014, 9:33 #48320

    The club died when David Dein left.We moved to the Emirates to compete for 4th.Thank you Fisman Bracewell-Smith Hill-Wood Kroenke and Gazidis for killing our club.I now hate Wenger and the people running our club.We are nothing more than a bank.

  33. Mark

    Mar 26, 2014, 9:09 #48315

    Not yet the end of March so therefore "officially" out of the title race as most of us knew. The difference between last year is we had upward momentum to scrape top 4 - this year it's the other way round and that's the worry. We'll probably play Everton 3 points clear of them having played a game more. It's rock and a hard place for me - finishing outside top 4 may mean FINALLY a change, yet in my heart I can't will Arsenal to fail, I just can't. I still get that buzz before a game, even though I know deep down what will happen and it'll be the same on Sat. Scholes assessment of us on Sky was spot on, particularly his thoughts on Jack not kicking on (Theo Walcott anyone?). We never turn up in the big games, can't adapt and it's been EXACTLY the same for years. I watched Man Utd v City last night and realised something - every year during the run in the top teams have their best players to choose from, minus 1 or 2 injured usually due to 'wear and tear'. Every year we have our key players missing at the same stage, not 1 or 2 but many. How many times did we play Barcelona without RVP, Fabregas, Nasri, Arshavin etc? When we had a full team we actually beat them 2-1. Now apparently Ramsey is a few weeks away, Kos is out "for a while", no sign of Wilshere or Ozil. As usual Wenger has no clue why and that is massively alarming. There's a reason why other teams don't suffer the injuries we do and it ain't bad luck

  34. Its up for grabs now

    Mar 26, 2014, 8:40 #48312

    The only certainty at Arsenal these last few years is that when the winning post is on the horizon, we collapse like a deck of cards. As always that is the fault of the manager, no matter how you cut it, he simply does not have it in him to either inspire or adopt tactics to suit the occasion. So many of us predicted this, not just for this season, but the last five or so, and yet we still have people on this forum somehow suggesting that we are having knee jerk reactions! The fourth placed trophy now looks like it's going to be the usual end of season scramble, and on current form Everton look the more likely to get that fabled spot. However as we all know, once the pressure is off actually winning the title, no doubt they will once again squeak into fourth on the very last day. So this is what we left Highbury for is it, a year in year out dash to finish as third best losers? On current form you have to be worried about Wigan, so even that possible sweetener may be denied us due to a manager who is so beyond his sell by date it’s becoming more than embarrassing. How can anybody with a rational mind not come to that conclusion? Wenger is now holding this club back with his outdated views and single tactic philosophy, only those who are determined to bury their heads in the sand can deny that for us to move on beyond fourth we need fresh blood and new ideas, coupled with players who actually possess mental strength, rather than ones we are told possess it by a manager who clearly knows they don’t, as otherwise why does he keep banging on about it?

  35. Wengerballs

    Mar 26, 2014, 8:36 #48311

    Listen, we'll win the F.A.Cup and finish fourth, Kroenke will laud Wenger, Wenger will sign his new contract, and all will be rosey in Wenger's garden.

  36. Had enough

    Mar 26, 2014, 8:28 #48309

    The man I really blame for all of this is Diamond Danny Fitzman. He got rid of the only person with any ambition on the board and if all the stories are true, the man who made Wenger take any chances in the transfer market. We have one of the richest men in the World wanting to get involved at the club but Daiamond Danny decided to **** over Deain once more and sell to the Denver Cowboy. I feel like pissing on his memorial plaque and have often pondered if I could get away with vandalising it late one night. The whole club is rotten to it's core and I am annoyed with myslef that like a lamb to the slaughter I will renew again. Please Arsene for the sake of Arsenal, my mental health and who knows even World peace please leave and don't come back for a long time.

  37. djr90125

    Mar 26, 2014, 8:28 #48308

    The board has tolerated failure far too long. Wigan built a new Stadium and god forbid, managed to win the FA Cup. They might do it again this year. Supposedly 7th or 8th richest club in the world and three of of four signings were freebies. Says it all.

  38. Hornsey Bill

    Mar 26, 2014, 8:23 #48306

    A very dull and frustrating performance. There was no passion out there last night. The manager's meaningless platitudes do nothing but antagonise this supporter at least. To say we played with "a lot of effort and spirit" is nonsense! Then to offer the excuse of a 6 - 0 thrashing in the last game as a "possible" reason for being over-cautious , defies belief and is an insult to the paying supporters! There was NO leadership out there on the pitch last night and decreasing evidence of any sort of motivation off the pitch either! Time to move on methinks! I applaud what he has done, but it's all getting very weary now. Time for new ideas, fresh blood, and some impetus. We really have to win the FA cup this year and should do it from where we are, but honestly? As much as I think we should I am becoming more nervous.

  39. Malaysian gunner

    Mar 26, 2014, 8:17 #48305

    The board shd not feel beholden to the fm. For the last three to five years,the gunners have choked at the finishing line. This is totally unacceptable and due to Wenger rigid tactics ,call it what you may,and it aint working. If he is honest,he shd gracefully decline the contract extension.

  40. Wardy

    Mar 26, 2014, 8:11 #48303

    Same old same old, ridiculous lack of pace and competition for places upfront and we've been desperate for a 'beast' midfielder for years ,,,,,, truly scandalous at the prices fans have to pay to watch the team ,,,,, and it is obvious this squad just doesn't have it in them when the going gets tough, when will it change? ,,,,,, that said, sign Draxler and Bender and we won't be far away ,,,,,

  41. BNG

    Mar 26, 2014, 8:03 #48302

    Punxsutawney Wenger strikes again