Is Arsene the football version of Maggie Thatcher?

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Is Arsene the football version of Maggie Thatcher?


Some of the august contributors to this website have made the parallel between Mr Arsene Wenger, Manager of the Arsenal Football Club, and Mr Brian Clough, who on any basis, went on too long as manager of Nottingham Forest and took them back to the second tier of English Football.

I like to offer an alternative view. I seek to show parallels between our (possibly) soon to be retiring manager and Margaret Hilda Thatcher.

Those parallels are of course spooky, and it’s not just that, like the blessed Margaret, Arsene lives somewhere near Finchley or likes to wear a lot of blue.

Both leaders evoke a passionate loyalty in their acolytes. There are many for whom their leader could and can do no wrong. Any present transgression was and is forgiven with a wave of the hand and a misty eyed look back at past triumphs.

Triumphs of the Iron Will.

We can look at Margaret Thatcher’s removal of free school milk from small children (put there by a postwar Labour government to guard against malnutrition) and equate it with Arsene Wenger’s removal of pie and chips and 20 pints a night from the Arsenal players’ diet. That would be wrong. Where the school milk decision was one of reckless abandon of good principles out of a lack of understanding or care, good dietary practices amongst our players revolutionised the English game. We may rightly feel that the sentiment “give up the booze Tony or get lost” was the manager’s finest hour. (Ed’s note – OK, TA renounced alcohol just before AW arrived, but the principle stands. Players consuming large amounts of alcohol would not have survived.)

No, the outstanding similarity between the Iron Lady and the Alsatian Polyglot/ Polymath is that of an unbending belief in the rightness of their own position during the decline and terminal phase of their leadership.

When a career in politics or football starts, the application of strong and correct principles with an iron will to succeed often proves a very successful combination. But it must be accompanied with good judgment, and an ability to understand and appreciate changing circumstances. Crucially, a really good leader must be able, even if only in 1% of their mind, to consider the possibility that they may be wrong. It is all too easy to leave oneself open to the illusion that because one has been right and successful in the past, that correctness and success are to be with you, always, world without end.

And then of course there are the casualties – those who die or are injured to save the leader’s face. Mrs Thatcher has her Falklands victims. Mr Wenger has those whose careers have been ended arguably for want of a deterrent midfield enforcer on station to protect them or who were played hopelessly out of position ad infinitum to the point where they gave up or left.

Of course I am being unfair. Whereas Margaret Thatcher effected essential reforms but also strongly arguably suborned and harmed our society forever, Arsene Wenger has revolutionised English football and harmed our club only for a few years after he is removed. Upon the basis that the punishment fits the crime, I wish him, by contrast, a long and happy retirement. Soon.


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  1. Stokie

    Apr 09, 2014, 13:46 #49199

    ok, I have been in the AW out group for a heck of a long time... But comparing him to someone who is pure Evil and died far to old is a step to far. She was a vile person..

  2. Finsbury Noe

    Apr 06, 2014, 23:36 #48971

    How on earth would I know who the Prime Minister was, the last time my side won the league, eh? My Mum was taking her Eleven Plus.

  3. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 06, 2014, 22:45 #48966

    KC, it's arrogance mate arrogance, plain and simple.

  4. KC

    Apr 06, 2014, 18:08 #48899

    How does he sit there and watch this dross, no changes at halftime he just keeps repeating the same crap game after game. No pace so leave the Ox on the bench! Full backs exposed time and again what does he think Arteta actually provides. Poldoski offers no support to the full back. Giroud just gives the ball to opposition constantly. It's so shocking even though we have injuries a decent manager would set the team up properly in a match that was important not to lose but no, same game plan that has failed time and again. Why are we so crap away that has to be the mentality. Ox on the bench, why? So frustrated but not surprised. All the money you pay for the ST and yet he thinks average will do. There's loyalty and there's being taken for a muppet. What a complete farce he has created. Frustrated and appalled by this incompetent arrogant out of touch man and team.

  5. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 06, 2014, 17:10 #48897

    KC, good post i hear what your saying loud and clear we all want the FAC but yes the unfortunate thing about it is it could mean having to put up with wenger for another couple of years.

  6. allybear

    Apr 06, 2014, 17:00 #48896

    KC like you i want to win the FA Cup and if it happens then AW will be hailed again as a master and sign a new deal! It will be interesting to see what happens but this season will stand out for me as the one when we got well smacked on several occasions and AW still made flimsy excuses.

  7. Stroud Green Road Boy

    Apr 06, 2014, 17:00 #48895

    Just heard Wenger on BBC radio and he sounded more devastated than I've ever heard him before. I am hopeful that's a sign he realises it's all over. As an aside, make the mistake, for the first time ever, of listening to 'Call Collymore' after the match. Had to turn it off after 28 minutes, in which I counted a total of 5 'calls' lasting approx. 30 seconds each. So that's 2.5 mins in half an hour - the rest of it taken up with ads, motor racing, tennis, more ads and Collymore's faux outrage at the Arsenal performance (as opposed to our genuine outrage on here). Without doubt the worst radio programme I have ever listened to in my life. Others will have known this for a while, of course.

  8. Roy

    Apr 06, 2014, 16:52 #48894

    That was awful. The Ox should have started. Overrun in midfield despite the presence of Flamini who's now suspended for 2 games, non - existent in attack and some pretty poor defending to boot. This utter shambles can now no longer be put right on the training ground as a lack of confidence is now evident. It was fairly tenuous anyway, but what happened at Stamford Bridge was a complete killer after the previous batterings, and this time they haven't recovered. It was also interesting to note that even Sagna who has been one of the more consistent performers, well, his head seemed to go down and I bet he cant wait to get away in the summer. I'll tell you this now - if we go behind next week, we are in trouble.

  9. KC

    Apr 06, 2014, 16:50 #48893

    What utter garbage we are actually boring to watch. No defence no midfield no attack. The team say lovely words about wenger and then perform like that. Pls Arsene leave and take Giroud Poldoski Arteta Flamini and Rosicky with you. If we want to be title contenders these players are not good enough for a number of different reasons. Today was so bad it was almost laughable what have we become? I want to win the fa cup just to shut up the press and their nine year line but I do not want him to stay and I'm concerned that will be his get out of jail card!

  10. Ken

    Apr 06, 2014, 16:46 #48892

    If Arsenal lose then fair enough I can take that but to lose without a fight and Wenger does nothing then there is something wrong!

  11. Ken

    Apr 06, 2014, 16:35 #48891

    @Maguiresbridge gooner and Allybear. Thank you both of you have cheered me up real pals. Arsenal forever.

  12. allybear

    Apr 06, 2014, 16:29 #48890

    Ken mate i know how you feel and really Wenger has to go its been a disgrace, all the heavy defeats and really too many excuses. Im sick of this team getting hammered and listening to excuses from AW supporters, no more excuses the team and manager are poor time for drastic change. If this man is rewarded with a new contract i will give up.

  13. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 06, 2014, 16:15 #48889

    Ken, not a problem mate you'd think we'd be used to it by now but we never do.

  14. Ken

    Apr 06, 2014, 16:10 #48888

    @Maguiresbridge goner. Sorry I am so upset at the way Arsenal played, and I want Arsenal to be Arsenal again if you know what I mean.

  15. Kenny

    Apr 06, 2014, 16:06 #48887

    Another disgraceful performance and Gazidis and Kroenke want to give this clown a £24m contract.Boycott ST's.Wenger OUT

  16. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 06, 2014, 16:01 #48886

    Ken, if i was it wouldn't be what this shower are taking i think you've misinterpreted my post 51910, i was merely suggesting what this has been of a manager and his fans will/could use as an excuse this time for another drubbing.

  17. Peter Wain

    Apr 06, 2014, 16:01 #48885

    appalling performance wrong team selected. Why not play with 9 men and dispense with Giroud and Arteta. Cannot believe Chamberlain did not start. The shape of the team was awful the midfield did not track runners and up front Giroud was slower than ever. It will be a challenge for Wenger to find a slower centre forward but I bet he will. Sure to lose next week end if the attitude on the pitch is the same as today. Roll on the transfer window to see what free transfers we get.

  18. Peter

    Apr 06, 2014, 15:56 #48884

    Disgraceful officiating. The first two Everton goals were offside while their third had a foul in the build-up. The Sanogo goal was a yard onside absolute disgrace!

  19. Ken

    Apr 06, 2014, 15:54 #48883

    Don't worry fans we will win the F.A. Cup because Wenger is too scared to lose his job and we can all start loving him again.

  20. Any Old Iron

    Apr 06, 2014, 15:53 #48882

    Quality, spirit, commitment, WHERE? Powder puff outfit. Home ties have given him a get out of jail free card in the Cup. Take responsibility Wanger, like you said you would!

  21. WENGER OUT

    Apr 06, 2014, 15:48 #48881

    I think Wenger has shown the people calling this article a new low exactly what one really looks like.

  22. Man United Killer

    Apr 06, 2014, 15:48 #48880

    Wake me up when it's all over. *Wenger's Arsenal: never contenders always pretenders *

  23. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 06, 2014, 15:44 #48879

    Ken, they don't hear you mate their all safely in their bunker at AKB central command (again) it's a very well trodden path now. But don't worry give them time and a couple will venture out and pop their head up.

  24. Ken

    Apr 06, 2014, 15:44 #48878

    @Msguiresbridge goner. Are you on DRUGS, oh yes Arsenal played well today, and you say who can we blame.

  25. DW Thomas

    Apr 06, 2014, 15:36 #48877

    This team is a shambles. Terrible defending, no attack, no subs, joke of a manager who sits and does nothing. Hire Maryinez now on $8 million a year! I get madder every week with each passing match. Everton on the up. Countered us like kings. We were first just weeks ago! Now it looks like 5th a real possibility. Wenger's comments about Lukaku on loan being an issue are just another excuse for his failure. I can't remember seeing someone make so many excuses for his own failures again and again and again.

  26. El Bodgeo

    Apr 06, 2014, 15:33 #48876

    Complete and utter ****e. Time to cut the crap and replace Wenger and Bould. We need a total overhaul of our entire approach to all aspects of the playing side of our club. Woeful and clueless. Ashamed to watch that performance today.

  27. jjetplane

    Apr 06, 2014, 15:30 #48875

    Must the season for spectator managers in north London. Wenger does a Sherwood and is now an honourary spud. For services to the great spring collapse project. Cannot wait for the postmatch; 'it was a tough match you can see but the spirit is good and we have to go to wembley but I believe my players can do it with the spirit they have.The referee I don't want to talk about but you can see yourself the decisions all went for the home side. The spirit has I said is .......'

  28. Ken

    Apr 06, 2014, 15:30 #48874

    V Everton.To all the Wenger fans GO and take that old b*****d with you.

  29. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 06, 2014, 15:30 #48873

    Who's fault is it this time? Who's to blame today? Oh i know Boots and not the footwear type, you couldn't make it up.

  30. Alsace Lorraine de totteridge

    Apr 06, 2014, 15:24 #48872

    Listening to the game on talkmanc , the journalists seemed shocked that the team is abandoning the manager, as he has abandoned them to chance for so many years. This looks like, thank goodness, the beginning of the end

  31. Aylesbury Gooner

    Apr 06, 2014, 15:15 #48871

    Gooner89 totally agree with your comment we are totally clueless and the only time Wenger got out of his seat was to have a word with the 4th official what a joke he has become. Should be looking forward to the semi next week but now dreading it. Please Wenger don't sign that contract

  32. Ken

    Apr 06, 2014, 15:10 #48870

    V Everton.No fight No leadership the Manager is a spectator,and the Arsenal board don't give a **** and you want to see more of this!!!

  33. jjetplane

    Apr 06, 2014, 14:57 #48869

    Ha ha ha! Writing on the wall for a decade. Even with him out the American remains and this club is nose diving. I trust Martinez will stay with the Toffees. Why would he want to become part of an 'American dream'. Wenger even looks like Thatcher. Vulture beaks. Bring on the politics! Love seeing who the little tin-pots are! Tofffeeeees!

  34. Johnc

    Apr 06, 2014, 14:51 #48868

    FOR GODS SAKE WENGER OUT NOW!!

  35. Gav Lee

    Apr 06, 2014, 14:10 #48867

    The away fans need to take responsibility here and force Wenger out

  36. Gooner89

    Apr 06, 2014, 14:07 #48866

    Another shambles . No passion no ideas. Wenger out

  37. Nigel Farage

    Apr 06, 2014, 12:49 #48865

    Well said Moscow Gooner. I can see you are someone who will not bend to filty leftists. Come and join us. Bring the french man - could do with some funding.

  38. David the Price is Ian Wright Wright Right!

    Apr 06, 2014, 9:21 #48864

    Another similarity being the ' u-turn'. She didn't, and he hasn't. Does anyone think he will? Thought not! On another note. George Graham many years ago signed a player from Palace who showed a lot of promise and went on to be an Arsenal great. I think Puncheon is also showing that. A double swoop for Puncheon and Bolasi could be an inspired move. Could not Wenger show us what he's supposedly been good at in the past and make puncheon an Ian Wright type marksman. Bolasi has potential also. He could back-up Theo, who gets injured frequently, as do all the team. I think Wenger suggesting Pills, Drugs etc shows he's BS ING us again. 4th doesn't appeal anymore either. Fa cup hmmmm?!

  39. Moscow Gooner

    Apr 06, 2014, 6:36 #48862

    Politics has no place on a football related site. I am firmly of the political Right - some of the crap posted on here re Thatcher (like the article itself) just underlines the intellectual poverty of the Left (in general) - but in the end we are all Arsenal supporters from all points of the political spectrum and to drag politics into it is purely divisive; on top of all the divisions we already have over AW! Let's focus on Wembley and beating Wigan...

  40. exiled&dangerous

    Apr 05, 2014, 21:54 #48860

    Okay, now that I have had slightly less to drink than I did when I made my last comment, I'll put it like this: me and my mate had talked about setting up a stall in the street and handing out free pints of milk when that evil witch eventually died, but on the day in question we both thought, well, she ended up as a frail old woman suffering from illness and we didn't want to glorify her demise. So we just went down the pub and got rat-arsed instead. And so, to Wenger..... unlike the aforementioned, it's a painful thorn in my side to see him worrying on the bench, frail, thin, and fit to drop. Go on, Bouldy, put him out of his misery. Jump in from behind, two feet off the floor, studs up, then turn to the fourth official miming a ball shape. He'll probably thank you for it as they carry him off (okay, so I have in fact had more to drink than last time).....

  41. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 05, 2014, 20:54 #48859

    Maybe OGL is taking to many of the wrong kind of pills in the privacy of his own home, and not taking enough of the right kind, it would explain a lot.

  42. Alsace Lorraine de totteridge

    Apr 05, 2014, 20:18 #48858

    Will Wenger be given a state funeral between the Emirates and Islington Town Hall? With points en route for us to turn our backs, obviously.

  43. 3 blind mice

    Apr 05, 2014, 17:51 #48857

    The football equivalent of Wenger is Fernando Torres.A once great striker now a laughing stock.Thatcher got removed by her own MP's the only way we can get rid of Wenger is through fan power.Sadly unlike the Tory MP's back in 1990 our fans don't have the bottle to get rid of our dictator.The only reason Wengers hasn't been removed is the fans.We are all to blame for 4th place mediocrity season after season

  44. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 05, 2014, 17:26 #48856

    Graham Simons, well said i second that.It's always somebody Else's fault.

  45. kilkenny cat

    Apr 05, 2014, 14:56 #48855

    Please dont ever mention that evil fascist dictator again. I might not like Wenger now,but he hasn,t destroyed families and communities. Just a football club.

  46. Rocky RIP

    Apr 05, 2014, 14:46 #48854

    Both polarised opinion; both were true to their principles; both stayed on past their best years according to some; neither witnessed Tottenham win the title during their tenure. Finsbury Joe - can you name the PM when you last won the title? It was Harold Macmillan, but please, keep doing your best to make out we are the joke club.

  47. BADARSE

    Apr 05, 2014, 12:42 #48853

    @Richard you are becoming the King Alfred of this site. You have most of the correct ingredients then you chuck them into a microwave and hurl the damaged product onto the table for people to digest. My advice is stick to simple fare like Susej and chips. Another tip is to study the magnificence of Graphene. Good old Darwin, er, I mean, Good old Arsenal.

  48. The God Delusion

    Apr 05, 2014, 12:19 #48852

    Richard lad, if people don't want politics on a football site, they definitely don't want whatever your brand of nonsense is.

  49. Stevieo

    Apr 05, 2014, 11:07 #48851

    Another Wenger bashing post? To redress the balance, and to keep things like for like, it would be nice to see an article comparing Wenger with Basil Fawlty.

  50. Richard

    Apr 05, 2014, 11:04 #48850

    Worldly people judge by sight, carnal reasoning, reputation supposed good works etc. True believers judge by a persons doctrine ie (what a person believes). Mrs Thatcher is probably in hell now unless God re-generated her before she died, along with supposed do-gooders like Mother Teresa, Martin Luther, John Calvin the popes and all other religionists who have ever walked the earth and believed in works salvation. Along with all the worldly philosophers like Darwin, Nietzsche, Socrates, Plato who made up systems to soothe the conscience of fallen man.

  51. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 05, 2014, 1:38 #48848

    Stuart, congratulations, quip of the day.

  52. exiled&dangerous

    Apr 04, 2014, 23:18 #48846

    No. Now get that picture off my ****ing screen. Or, I swear, I am coming out of ****ing exile. But I'll bring my Pat Jennings autograph with me. Just in case.

  53. Noodles aka wenger the tyre kicker

    Apr 04, 2014, 23:18 #48845

    Pretty much spot on ..wenger won't take advise and it's a disaster as was maggies poll tax disaster .... My fear is look at the dross that followed ...her John Major could be our Roy Hodson! Uncle woy wed and white army uncle woys wed and white army etc

  54. allybear

    Apr 04, 2014, 21:40 #48844

    See what your article started Andrew, a lot of columists berate you but you see that a lot of them have blind fate in Wenger. They keep saying what he did for the club, its history let it go he is finished. He is also an extremely wealthy man and i for one dont care how he goes as long as he does go very soon. Remember that we are all entitled to our opinions!

  55. Stuart

    Apr 04, 2014, 21:27 #48843

    Both of them had a problem with being in Europe.

  56. BADARSE

    Apr 04, 2014, 16:34 #48842

    Poleetiks! Poleetiks! Poleeticks! Insulting 'our boys'? No. Lighten up gentlemen. The chap has every right to opine in any way he chooses. The article is a little flimsy, analogy misses completely and it serves no real purpose, except beyond reading and criticising. 'The B*tch' was the single biggest disappointment in my lifetime who damaged society irreparably, take a look around as the evidence still seeps like a lanced boil into our every day existences. Arsene Wenger gave me a thing of beauty to cherish. Both stayed a long time in their respective positions; one needed a 'night of the long knives' to oust her, the other will just walk away. @Chris your assessment of 'oddly warped views', restores a little faith in human nature, thanks.

  57. Finsbury Maggie

    Apr 04, 2014, 15:47 #48841

    I blame the Russians for ruining our great institutions and the sooner Stan (see Ronnie) sends them packing back to Siberia, the better. RON Can I contact Glenda using a glass?

  58. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 04, 2014, 15:13 #48839

    Arsene did some great things for our club and they'll never be forgotten but i too wish him a long and happy retirement soon, so hopefully we'll not witness him being helped out of the tunnel by some young assistant the way we did Thatcher from her old peoples home.

  59. Matthew Okot

    Apr 04, 2014, 15:05 #48838

    Margaret Thatcher only lasted for 11 years and people around her told her to go. Wenger has been there for 17 and nobody is ready to tell him that it's all over.

  60. Matthew Bazell

    Apr 04, 2014, 15:01 #48837

    Personally I would say no. I respect Wenger for his past achievements but now I think it;s time to move on. However, Thatcher was always a vile wrench who had no good legacy whatsoever. She stared off vile and ended up vile. I may have issues with Wenger but I think he did a lot of things right between 96 and 06

  61. Ron

    Apr 04, 2014, 14:21 #48836

    wearebuilding.... absolutely mate. A Danny Blanchflower pic blu tacked onto the ceiling and Cockerel clenched stroking and stretching its neck. It must be 4 feet long though by now, the torrid action its seen if hes got that vid playing at the same time.

  62. Graham Simons

    Apr 04, 2014, 14:14 #48834

    Why have a pop at the Gooner? People send in their columns and are given a platform to express them. Just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean they should not be heard. If you don't like what's being said put your thoughts to paper and send them in. I think you guys do sterling work!

  63. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Apr 04, 2014, 13:14 #48832

    Ron; Finsbury Joe twisting, perspiring and aching in bed for sure, but probably, er, "amusing" himself with his well-worn video of the 91 FA Cup semi. The much aniticipated follow up video from 1993 remains unopened, gathering dust on the shelf.

  64. Paul

    Apr 04, 2014, 13:12 #48831

    I may want Wenger to go (in a dignified manner), but i would never insult him by comparing him (a once great manager) to a nasty dictator that ruined Britain & created a much greater division between rich & poor. Terrible insult to him.

  65. frankytheswede

    Apr 04, 2014, 13:05 #48830

    little bit over the top andrew lol as arsenal fans we all have a opinion and thats cool, but the lengths some fans go to. think wenger should go or want him to, fine I understand youre reasons but there is no need to insult the man or drag his name through the mud. show abit of class

  66. West Upper

    Apr 04, 2014, 13:03 #48829

    The penultimate paragraph is in very poor taste. Shame on the writer for this irrelevant nonsense.

  67. Spaced

    Apr 04, 2014, 12:58 #48828

    Anyway, let's change the subject, who else is looking forward to a nice visit to Wembley in a week's time? I certainly am, it's been a while (didn't go to the league cup). It may only be a semi-final but I'm getting pretty excited to be honest. Come on you Gunners!

  68. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Apr 04, 2014, 12:53 #48827

    Margaret Thatcher's economic policy oversaw the destruction of our manufacturing base, creating hundreds of thousands of new unemployed, whose dole was paid for by North Sea oil revenues. The economy from 1982-1987 boomed on credit. Arsene Wenger's economic policy is based around asset stripping, the sale of the clubs best players, to fund day to day operations. In economic terms the two are poles apart.

  69. Spaced

    Apr 04, 2014, 12:47 #48826

    Yet another boring anti-Wenger post. And this one really is a new low. Can anyone save the online Gooner or is it beyond repair?

  70. Big Andy

    Apr 04, 2014, 12:22 #48825

    Poor taste. The only thing that Thatcher and wenger had in common in that they didn't know when to go.

  71. Roy

    Apr 04, 2014, 12:17 #48824

    Isnt there a hidden analogy here ? If the history books are to be believed, the Miners, although they didn't know it at the time, were less than a couple of weeks from victory. Had they won, I think it's fair to say that the landscape since would have been somewhat different. Is this the same kind of watershed moment that is approaching for our club - as in that forthcoming events could decide whether OGL signs a new contract or not ? But overall, I don't think that we should be comparing football and politics, should we ? They've always been uncomfortable bedfellows, and yes, the Falklands reference IS in poor taste.

  72. Born Gooner

    Apr 04, 2014, 11:38 #48823

    Second last paragraph - off the mark in just about every way. Ill-judged and a load of tosh.

  73. mike

    Apr 04, 2014, 11:26 #48822

    Terrible post - how can this be allowed on this site

  74. Seven Kings Gooner

    Apr 04, 2014, 11:23 #48821

    Poor taste to compare our brave soldiers to a football manager - FFS it's a game of football not life and death, unlike the Falklands. This should never have posted!

  75. Ron

    Apr 04, 2014, 11:03 #48819

    Gotta love old Finsbury J! He must lie in bed at night, twisting, turning and aching and perspiring, his body tortured and racked with the envy of his neighbours, wondering why, oh why, oh why he was destined for a spuds life. Maybe the sins of an earlier life FJ lad? Ring your hero, Glenda. He ll explain matey im sure.

  76. chris dee

    Apr 04, 2014, 10:33 #48818

    Some people will praise him,some people will critisise him,some serial morons will insult him ,but whatever, he's not gonna be manager at the start of next season cause that contract ain't gonna be signed.

  77. Chris

    Apr 04, 2014, 10:14 #48817

    This article seems to provide evidence that Andrew Cohen (who hasn't commented of late) and 'Alsace...' are one and the same. Oddly warped views, possibly from an ex-military mind, put forward in an uncompromising and entertainingly eloquent style.

  78. Ron

    Apr 04, 2014, 10:04 #48816

    Oooh Dear. Arsene may be many things but hes not downright evil surely?

  79. George Smith

    Apr 04, 2014, 9:16 #48815

    Wenger is not willing to face the reality.Thatcher wasn't known as iron lady for nothing.She took the miners headon and won. Wenger has been termed a specialist in failure.If he doesn't want the label to tar him,he better start winning against Everton. The blues will go all out for the win. Wenger can play anti soccer and hit Martinez on the break Otherwise with his hdl,the gunners could lose.

  80. ppp

    Apr 04, 2014, 9:10 #48814

    Words fail me. A new low. Get your act together Goooner or you will die out.

  81. Clapton Joe

    Apr 04, 2014, 8:48 #48813

    No. She took away my milk and then proceeded to be an evil harridan for the entirety of her reign. Wenger hasn't taken anything away. He started off amazing and has declined. No need to compare him to an entirely detestable and destructive barely human resident of hell.

  82. WENGER OUT

    Apr 04, 2014, 8:43 #48812

    Andrew - I'm not really sure that this is a particularly pertinent analogy, but I applaud you for having a go. I'm sure there's a clever quip in there somewhere, but comparing a bunch of overpaid useless footballers, whose careers were stagnated at worse, to Falklands victims is a little bit tasteless to say the least. The fact is Wenger "manages" a football team, Thatcher ruined the lives of many to benefit the few. The fact that Thatcher was in a position to ruin people's lives sets her apart from a doddery old football manager, but I agree that he needs to realise that his time is up and bow out with his head held high.

  83. Finsbury Joe

    Apr 04, 2014, 8:32 #48811

    Please do not mention a serial failure in the same sentence as the wonderful Margaret Thatcher. If Wenger has to be compared with a politician, it would have to be the useless, spineless spinning Ed Milliband, or the hapless buffoon Neil Kinnock, or possibly the intellectual, but completely out of touch, inappropriate coat wearing Michael Foot. With wenger , it would have to be a socialist, completely divorced from reality. Guess we can all look forward to him spreading his stench of failure in another early kickoff in the North West before announcing a new deal. Wonder if he will prepare the team this time