Justify the 3% Price Increase

An Open Letter about the state of our Football Club



Justify the 3% Price Increase


To Stan Kroenke and Ivan Gazidis,

After witnessing yet another inept away performance on Sunday, surely you must now have to revoke the earlier announcement of a 3% price increase for next season, and replace it with a price reduction. At the turn of the year, the team was well placed to challenge for the Premier League title for the first time in 10 years. All that was required was some work in the transfer market in January to recruit a quality striker to back up the clearly tiring Olivier Giroud, plus a midfield and defensive addition to the squad. Instead, we get no one which means we are left with a second rate Sanogo (Sanogood!) as a replacement, along with the annual lengthening injury list. Now, we are threatened with missing out on the Champions League following a destructive capitulation.

Champions League qualification should be important, but given the past it will not strengthen our position in the transfer market, and we will not challenge to win the tournament. It is a great excuse to travel around Europe, but is increasing less important from a football perspective.

We have a tactically inept manager, who still seems to ignore the strengths of the opposition on the basis that if we turn up, we will win. Against Everton, predictably the first substitutions were after 65 minutes, which appear to be the time every week, probably decided by a computer the preceding Thursday as no changes now ever appear to reflect the game taking place, often taking off the better players and leaving on those having a shocker. Arsene was a genius for the first half of his reign, but now looks like an old man out of his depth, who has to keep warm in his stupid sleeping bag of a coat.

After the Chelsea debacle, the manager called it an accident. Well, that is patently untrue -
Man City away - accident
Liverpool away - unacceptable
Chelsea away - untenable (and should have been the last straw - how many other managers suffer three such results in a season let alone three months and survive?)
Everton away - gross negligence on all counts (Kroenke, Gazidis and Wenger)

The away fans are currently putting in considerably more effort to these games than the manager and most of the players, and our support is being taken for granted.

When we moved stadiums, it was to challenge the best teams. We have clearly been lied to by you and the manager for years. Now, you want to increase the already highest prices in European football to watch a team that apparently has no intention of fighting for the title. Presumably you, Ivan, are happy enough, bearing in mind your bonuses (in addition to your £2m salary) are all based on finances and the commercial aspects of the business rather than what happens on the pitch. Surely the new TV deals, sponsorship and kit deals bring in sufficient to fund some reward for the people who make the club - the loyal supporters. I have had a season ticket for 25 years, and travel regularly away at home and abroad but now feel I am being dumped on form an ever increasing height. Your only real interest is to get tourists into the stadium who will no doubt spend more money in the club shops than we do.

Now to the bones of this message - please leave your jobs now and take the manager with you. The club should be owned by someone with an interest in the game, get in Jurgen Klopp and a chief executive who has an understanding of football and what it means to the fans, not just the bottom line and their own personal bonus scheme.

Any other business that treated it customers, as you would like to call us, with the contempt you do, would fail!

Hopefully, we can win the FA Cup, and the manager can leave with some dignity, but the way things are looking I fear this will not happen.


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  1. Bigger Ground

    Apr 13, 2014, 20:14 #49442

    The only way you could solve the problem is by increasing the capacity to around the size of Wembley. Have a huge standing only end which holds about 30,000 where all the old school could stand and sing for about £20 a game. The rest of the ground can have the big comfy seats for the well healed to increase the clubs coffers, everybody is happy. The old school has their end and the board are still minting it in and the club would grow richer and everybody would hate a trip to Arsenal.

  2. I just LOVE the match day experience

    Apr 13, 2014, 19:55 #49441

    Let's be honest, the atmosphere at home games is dire for most games. It's a consequence of pricing out and driving away the more vocal fans. We're left with fans who want to sing but are marooned amongst people who offer nothing to the atmosphere and only know one or two songs. (And it's Ar-se-nal ... zzzzz ..) What's most painful is Chelsea have nicked some of our biggest ones and almost made them their own. Infuriating! (We are THE ARSENAL and we are the best .. We all follow THE ARSENAL...etc.) The Emirates could be a magnificent stadium. It's just the people the club have targeted and the environment it creates isn't conducive to vocal backing. Look up the Arsenal v Newcastle league cup game from 1996 (pre-Wenger.) Study the support. Proper passion. It's no wonder we've won nothing since we moved. People aren't encouraged to be vocal and supportive. As long as seats are sold, Stan couldn't give a ****. Get this man out of our beloved club. Apparently he wanted an 8% increase. Create a certain habitat and certain creatures will naturally inhabitat it. Keep raising ticket prices and it'll only get worse. Something has to be done. A lot of fans who are offered 'cheap' tickets at £62+ are faced with a choice. Fork out for a frustrating atmosphere of being forced to sit in silence or keep the money and watch in the pub with proper supporters who won't tell you to pipe down, and a cold beer.

  3. John Rawley

    Apr 13, 2014, 19:19 #49437

    I'm renewing my companies co-operate box out of my own pocket. Rightly or wrongly I just can't get enough of Arsenal these days.

  4. Pat Atkinson

    Apr 13, 2014, 4:26 #49337

    Open Letter. I aggree with all points though I believe the club should be owned by the community. Thats when fans would have a say on price of tickets etc. Its a business and the fans are been milked everytime. Yesterdays game was devoid of real energy and creativity. The old taunt of 'lucky Arsenal' was true. It really looked like the players were 'just' going through the motions. Is our academy bringing on better players? Reduce the prices!

  5. Raymond

    Apr 12, 2014, 23:48 #49333

    I am genuine and I follow the mighty Arsenal not some two bit tuppenny happenny team that you AMG's want to turn us into. You lot would be better off following Barnet, Charlton or Millwall with your historical prices.

  6. Matthew Bazell

    Apr 12, 2014, 15:06 #49327

    Raymond, you are either a wind up merchant, or you're totally genuine which would mean that you are a complete and utter mug with no soul whatsoever.

  7. Raymond

    Apr 12, 2014, 13:11 #49323

    I would be more annoyed if they lowered ticket prices as it would make us look cheap and a club that lacked true ambition and true supporters and were struggling to sell their tickets, like Sunderland, Aston Villa, Man City, West Ham or Newcastle who have to give out loads of freebies for most games to keep the fans interested. If Arsenal felt they had to double the prices of games and season tickets I would be more than happy though I would draw the line in increasing the Cat A games as those matches are more than enough as they are.

  8. Ron

    Apr 11, 2014, 22:05 #49311

    Jason B - i can understand the sentiment that you express and about being crestfallen. The thing is your post typifies the modern younger fan. Theres no warranty on the back of the ticket you know that you'll get a great show and result. Do you ask for your wages to be docked when you don't perform well at work? Following a team involves seeing sh--te football and often for a good few years. It means seeing players who cant hack it. It means seeing the team when you know the Coach has lost the plot. It means getting battered when the team is rubbish and it means humiliation from time to time. A refund? A good few in the 2500 there last Sunday travelled a lot further than you, rest assured.Your journey was a little jaunt compared to some.

  9. Jason B

    Apr 11, 2014, 20:37 #49309

    Gross negligence is what I would describe our performance on Sunday so you can add the XI that started plus the subs'.I spent around £100 (including match ticket, coach travel,e.t.c) and left home at 4am to get three buses into London before I got on the coach at Emirates stadium. No apology on website, no offer of a refund or compensation for my wasted day.

  10. Ron

    Apr 11, 2014, 11:36 #49302

    BADARSE - PS. Yes, Sue T. R.I.P. She was indeed a proud Daughter of Leics. mate. Great that her home City club are back where they belong too!(i think so anyway). Pearson - another Coach with integrity. Well deserved Nigel and credit to the Club for sticking with you after last Seasons end.

  11. Ron

    Apr 11, 2014, 11:26 #49300

    BADARSE - Hi buddie. Apologies then to you. Sorry. Seemed like dodgy posts, not 'sounding' quite like you. Just looking out for you, best intentions meant. Yes. C mon Gunners. They so need it tomorrow.

  12. BADARSE

    Apr 11, 2014, 11:16 #49299

    Morning Ron. It is me and other posts are mine too, no fake BADARSE yet. Just posted on the following article and added a short post script to Sue Townsend. I know you have connections with Leicester so it may be pertinent. Head up chum, it's time for sleeve-rolling, let's try to win this game.

  13. Ron

    Apr 11, 2014, 10:48 #49296

    To the fake BADARSE - Youre a very poor imitator of BADARSE the real.Trollings never very impessive. Not remotely funny either. Quit while youre ahead is best.

  14. Ray

    Apr 11, 2014, 9:23 #49292

    My wife looks like a bulldog chewing a wasp which Is why I spend most of my time down at the Emirates.

  15. BADARSE

    Apr 11, 2014, 9:02 #49291

    Good morning gentlemen and ladies. Colonel chunda you are so right, but how did you know my wife was the most beautiful? Whoops, must go. The trainer of insects is crouched on one knee, and is rapidly searching for runaway fleas!

  16. Colonel chunda

    Apr 10, 2014, 22:58 #49289

    Everyone thinks they have the most beautifulest wife

  17. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 10, 2014, 18:39 #49288

    I,m more disappointed that the girl behind the bar isn't serving any more.

  18. BADARSE

    Apr 10, 2014, 17:05 #49286

    Bard, I asked myself that same question and got no answer. Therefore I am certain the schizophrenic period has passed...in true tika taka style. I see the sun coming up, and as I am thinking quite clearly feel I can put this quite strongly, I think we might win on Saturday! There! Stay with it chum.

  19. Bard

    Apr 10, 2014, 16:42 #49285

    Am I alone in thinking the amusing madness of today's posts is connected with the anxiety about the forthcoming Wigan game. A game we should win but one we are more than capable of losing. It could be the game that makes or breaks the boss. According to the papers we have so many injuries we' ll be hard pushed to put out a side. Losing to Wigan doesn't bear thinking about.

  20. BADARSE

    Apr 10, 2014, 16:25 #49284

    When anyone, approaches their sixty fifth year they are said to suffer a few schizophrenic periods of uncertainty; a personal psychological questioning ensues. However once that milestone is reached a new dawn arrives, bringing clarity of thought, a sense of fortitude and strong decisiveness. I have every confidence that this will be the case for the next few years of Arsene's tenure.

  21. Gaz

    Apr 10, 2014, 16:09 #49283

    @maguiresbridge gooner: Nah, I reckon there's no more excuses for them to come up w...........hang on, what am I talking about, of course they'll think of something!!!

  22. UTU

    Apr 10, 2014, 15:40 #49280

    My First Season Ticket cost me £80 to stand on the North Bank. Stop complaining and Stop paying high prices. Simple Solution. I stopped handing my money to the 'Business men' who own/run The Arsenal years ago. I don't regret my decision at all.

  23. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 10, 2014, 15:20 #49279

    Gaz, they'll find a way don't worry about that, all it'll take is some daft mumbo jumbo of a sentence or statement from OGL and the sheep will lap it up.

  24. John Rawley

    Apr 10, 2014, 15:00 #49278

    Now Now, come come my impersonator. We all have a different role to perform in life, some of us are born to rule while others to serve. Each person should do this to the best of his ability.

  25. John Rawley

    Apr 10, 2014, 14:16 #49277

    I've just paid a small fortune for a seat in the Royal Box to watch us whip scruffy Wigan I don't care about the cost because I'm minted . The Queen's butler is included in and he will be on hand to serve me Champers and Caviar during the game and at halftime a couple of stiff brandies to help to fortify me until my chauffeur collects meat the end of affairs to drive me back to my mansion Ivory Towers.

  26. Gooner89

    Apr 10, 2014, 14:13 #49275

    Really pleased for Atletico Madrid for a couple of reasons 1. As others have said it finally kills the AKB myth about why we can't compete with the big boys 2. I can't stand Barcelona mainly because of the commentators on ITV love them as much as their beloved Man Utd. Can I assume that those same commentators will accept they are overrated after they got buried by BM last year and now by AM? Them and the Mancs being dumped on the same night must have certain commentators weeping in their beer. If only Chelski hadn't been so lucky Now back to Saturday. I maybe a founder member of AMG but please don't mess this up. We need a trophy. I can't even contemplate the thought of!!! Well you know

  27. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 10, 2014, 13:30 #49274

    jeff wright, when the players are listening to their manager talking shyte for so long it's bound to rub off.

  28. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 10, 2014, 13:17 #49273

    Bard, i hear wenger has sent scouts to the hospital to check his X rays, no medical knowledge required just like the medics, he wants to know if he could make it back in time to save our season.

  29. John Rawley

    Apr 10, 2014, 12:32 #49268

    Love the Emirates and absolutely hate visiting away grounds squashed in with all those peasants. Went to Goodison on Sunday and couldn't even get a brandy at half time, it was like visiting middle earth.

  30. Ron

    Apr 10, 2014, 11:31 #49260

    It cant happen of course, but in an ideal World a new Coach of any gravitas going in there,with standing in the game would keep Wilshere and Chamberlain (maybe Ozil) and move the rest on smartish. Start again. It could take 5-6 years to build a team there who would genuinely challenge for the title in my view such is the underlying staleness of the place. Can it be done under this Board? Who knows. Ive got doubts.

  31. jeff wright

    Apr 10, 2014, 11:20 #49258

    Ron, Cazorla is another of those 'big signings'by Wenger that supporters had to look up on YouTube to find out who they were. He's never done anything of note in the game and very little gets missed by the the two top clubs radar in Spain. Santi ,like others in the current side, only perform against lower case opposition as soon as they face top ones they go AWOL . This obviously traumatizes Wenger no end but he was the one who signed them . A new manager coming in next season would face a similiar task to Moyes at United ,the current squads at both clubs are way off the pace of the top sides . And an injury to Wally doesent cause this the problems lie in the squad that Wenger has built to play an outdated style of football consisting in the main of small technical players ,all injury prone in a team that is physically unsuited to the demands of English Prem football. Without major surgery to the squad and a different style of football it will all be deja vu again next season. A run of home games in the FAC has helped Wenger out this season,as many of us suggested that it could earlier,albeit that we were called idiots for not believing in the title challenge and even the Champions League tilt! Let's hope that Wenger doesn't mess up the chance to win the Cup as he has done in the recent past when the chance was there. He needs to liven up and show some enthusiasm. Leaving that sleeping bag with the dodgy zip at home would be a good place for him to start at. Shouting at our players when they are under-performing instead of at the 4th official is another. It's a simple game football why does Wenger have to make it all so complicated? All of this tippy- tappy passing that everyone has sussed out and that only works on the perfect pitch at the Emirates needs ditching in favour of a more direct approach against Wigan who are well organized and beat City at Poundlands by hitting them on the counter . I doubt though that arrogant Arsene is even thinking about what Wigan will do instead he will have Santi and co swerving around cones on the training pitch all week preparing them to walk the ball into the Wigan goal after a 120 passing move. Only that will satisfy Arsene.We should remember though that this is Wigan and not Chelsea or City .

  32. Santi fawlty towers Carzola

    Apr 10, 2014, 10:55 #49256

    You know nuttting gringos. Fulham and QPR are ma besta friends No. You know slap my head. Remember gringo - I selecta ma hone fights. Gringo Wenger wants to see me. Tell him I am witha da agent..... Ozil also go to QPR ......

  33. Ron

    Apr 10, 2014, 10:34 #49255

    Jeff - Cazorla is one of them who in my view would be first out under a Coach of any strength. Hes lucky Wenger came across him and bought him. I cant imagine any top Club would want him. Hes not with Barca or Madrid for a reason. Not near good enough. You dont see him for dust against any decent level opponents but the dozy lot at the Emirates still sing his 'ooooh Santi Cazorla' etc etc ..... Never understood why as he s very average.

  34. jeff wright

    Apr 10, 2014, 10:07 #49254

    Ray,I say bring back the terraces that's where real football supporters were to be found . You poncy big comfy seats and prawn sandwich AKB's have turned AFC into a comedy venue. "SANTI CAZORLA has warned Arsenal: Start winning trophies or I'm off." It's this type of nonsense that has all the other clubs supporters in stitches. I had no idea that Santi had ever won any trophies - and if he wanted to do so then why join a manager who has not won one since Tony Blair was grinning at us from number 10. I think that Sant speaks with forked tongue and joined us for the money on offer when Real and Barca declined to sign him..The FAC is a trophy so instead of talking about winning trophies why doesn't Santi keep his stupid mouth shut and do something to help win that? You couldn't make it up.

  35. Bard

    Apr 10, 2014, 10:01 #49253

    Reading this morning posts really cheered me up. Great stuff guys. I see there's paper that we're in for jay Rodriquez . He certainly fits the bill skillful and suffering from a long term injury. Peaches, melons, this site is veritable horticultural delight. What I want to know is where'' s Kallstrom ?

  36. Reality bites

    Apr 10, 2014, 8:35 #49251

    Gaz...the final nail in the AKB coffin will be when Tottenham receive approval and build their new state of the art stadium without a French dictator pulling the strings.

  37. Gaz

    Apr 10, 2014, 7:53 #49250

    How on earth are the AKBs going to explain the form of Liverpool and in particular Atletic Madrid this year? Atletico in particular have totally blown away their age old excuse (which has always been bollox anyway) that we simply cant compete with Clubs with more money than us. Diego Simeone put it far more eloquently than I ever could when asked the question: 'what was the difference between you and Barcelona?' His reply: 'a budget of around 450m euros!!!' Ouch!!!

  38. Ray

    Apr 10, 2014, 7:40 #49249

    Off to the Wembley dump at the weekend, looking forward to the game but not enjoying having to rough it in their comical small seats.

  39. BADARSE

    Apr 10, 2014, 6:28 #49248

    Very busy in the circus westlower. Can't get this ditty out of my head. 'Don't you love farce? My fault I fear. I thought that you'd want what I want, sorry my dears. But where are the clowns? Quick send in the clowns. Don't bother they're here.' Having trouble with the horses and the high-wire act. Horses aren't really that good at it!

  40. Ken

    Apr 10, 2014, 1:31 #49247

    I don't think Ray was looking at her hand more like her melons. And seeing them is worth the entrance fee alone lol.

  41. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 10, 2014, 1:01 #49246

    Girl behind the bar, it doesn't matter as long as it's served by your fair hand.

  42. Matthew Bazell

    Apr 10, 2014, 0:47 #49245

    John Rawley, I've got a booking for you this Saturday night. Comedy Store want you to headline. Said that joke about the Emirates being great value for money was classic.

  43. Girl behind the bar.

    Apr 10, 2014, 0:46 #49244

    Is that one peach or two?

  44. Ken

    Apr 10, 2014, 0:27 #49243

    Sorry to hear that John Rawley R.I.P

  45. John Rawley

    Apr 10, 2014, 0:17 #49242

    I am going to have my ashes scattered over the Emirates pitch it's my spiritual home.

  46. Ken

    Apr 10, 2014, 0:02 #49241

    Nice one Ray I thought the people behind the bar were all old ladies lol. Oh well you live and learn.

  47. Ray

    Apr 09, 2014, 23:54 #49240

    I love my trips to the Emirates friendly staff and the girl who work behind the bar is an absolute peach.

  48. Ken

    Apr 09, 2014, 23:43 #49239

    John Rawley. Your rare item I'll have you stuffed and put you in my cabinet along with my other Arsenal stuff.

  49. jeff wright

    Apr 09, 2014, 22:40 #49238

    I am always right where it concerns Wenger, this is not rocket science to do though as he makes it very easy to do. He's just so predictable.

  50. Gaz

    Apr 09, 2014, 22:17 #49237

    I say we just give up. After all we'll never be able to match the spending power of Clubs like Atletico and Liverpool..,

  51. Jeff Wright

    Apr 09, 2014, 22:12 #49236

    Doesn't matter what you say.....my opinion is better than yours.......

  52. GoonerGoal!

    Apr 09, 2014, 22:01 #49235

    I've been saying it continuously for the past 5 years. Guess what? I'm gonna say it again... WENGER/GAZIDIS/KROENKE OUT! VIVE LA REVOLUTION!

  53. Any Old Iron

    Apr 09, 2014, 21:50 #49234

    Barcelona have been knocked out. Tippy tappy is shot. Someone better tell Wanger! Good luck to Chelsea. Mourinho v Guardiola v Simeone v Ancellotti. This minefield is no place for Wanger. Give it up Arsene, they'll eat you up every time!!

  54. Vince

    Apr 09, 2014, 21:39 #49233

    maguiresbridge, yep your right the support has been there and the issues are the same irrespective of this one result - fair point, its bigger than this Saturdays result. I think part of the issue has been the situation at Arsenal has been repetitive/stagnant for about 4 to 6 years now, a bit like the film 'ground hog day' where the guy gets stuck in a rut, not all bad but none the same a predictable rut. Anyway, lets hope the sun shines on Saturday, some beers and a good win to give us all something to cheer about :-)

  55. ATID

    Apr 09, 2014, 21:37 #49232

    Haven't posted much this season. Even when we were top I didn't expect it to last and, right on cue, history is repeating itself. Over the last couple of seasons my emotional state has gone way past anger and frustration and is now firmly entrenched in rabbit in headlights apathy. It is like being permanently trapped in a re-run of the penalty shoot out against Galatasary in Copenhagen. You know that it isn't going to end well but you still have to live through the torture of failure. So, at the moment as soon as a game sells out I put my seat on the TX. At least that way next season's (actually next month's)season ticket renewal will be slightly less poor value for money. Apologies to Red Member but no way am I giving up my season ticket just because the Club currently in the hands of SK and AW. As for the latter there is now something rather sad and pathetic about our once great manager. He looks and sounds like my workaholic boss at work. Totally out of touch with everyone around him but too senior to be sacked and too proud to realise that he isn't up to the job anymore. As for Silent Stan what does he care about you or me? He is the complete opposite of the local boy made good who, having made his fortune, decides to live out his fantasies through his football club. Our American owner is far too professional to get distracted by the pursuit of silverware. Ultimately, our fate was sealed when Danny Fiszman decided to sell his shares to Kroenke. No doubt he would have thought it was in the best interests of the Club but I don't suppose I am the only fan who now wishes he had selected Usmanov. When it comes to owners of football clubs I would always choose a man with an ego over a man with a Masters in Business Administration.

  56. Billthered

    Apr 09, 2014, 21:34 #49231

    For the past few years there was no real point in us being in the champions league other than lining Yankee doodles pockets as we were never going to win the big eared trophy.I still think we will qualify but it can only be a question of time before we come unstuck in the qualifying round.How the club can then substantiate a hike in season tickets is beyond a joke.I gave up my season ticket this season and the club have rung me once a month at least asking me if I want it back next season so please don't let anyone kid you about waiting lists they don't exist so the golden goose may soon be dead in the water.

  57. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 09, 2014, 21:22 #49230

    Vince, certainly hear and appreciate where your coming from mate, but we're all always behind the team and will be again on Saturday, and i don't think there's any need to put this aside at all, in fact the opposite, because regardless of the out come on Saturday and even the final nothings going to change wengers time is up he has to go regardless.

  58. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 09, 2014, 21:05 #49229

    Maybe John Rawley has had a good win on the horses?

  59. Ron

    Apr 09, 2014, 21:04 #49228

    Yes mate. I see it like that. Some of the stuff he says these days (hes always been somewhat 'off the wall though') accepted)is bizarre and getting even more odd. Its a good point about his 'tyrannical'side that you make. All of the quotes and comments by people, players and all do all seem to have been scripted as 'Wenger approved' . We could be way off the mark, but as the years have passed its looks more like his iron grip on the place has taken on new strengths, like Clough etc. None of this was really apparent until say 3-4 years back. I admit and i feel many others do too that we all, to a degree used to fall for his 'we re the victims' spin and 'hard luck/its all unfair on good footballing teams' spin. As for tika tika, i've always detested it mate. Ive always found Barcelona boring (sounds mad i know) but at least it worked for them by use of high quality intelligent, committed players plus Messi at his peak all of whom their Coach knew wd see it through and wdt take flight for the bigger wage. Wenger was short sighted in that respect wasn't he plus it was always doomed with cheap and far lesser players, plus he cdt see the physicality that Barcelona also adopted to it to make it work and utilise when it went off the rails in matches. Ive never seen Wenger as a quality Coach. Hes been a lucky one though.

  60. jeff wright

    Apr 09, 2014, 20:49 #49227

    It's all rather sad really Ron the ramblings about injured players taking secret pills behind his back and other ones, such as the car crash analogy (only the one though according to Wenger!) do suggest, along with his gaunt fraught appearance, that some sort of a mental break down has taken place. As you say football is not somewhere that such vulnerabilities are easily dealt with. It's a young man's game as others such as Clough found out in the end. Ferguson left a lot of the stress to underlings whereas these Clough and Wenger autocratic types try to run the who shebang themselves. It's great when things go well but not so great when they don't. Our Gallic genius has built the current side to play tika taka all the signs are though that this style of football is now redundant at top level . This hardly suggests that Wenger,who thinks that tika taka is the right wayto play football, is the great visionary that it has been claimed that he is. He's always been a copy cat type though.

  61. Ron

    Apr 09, 2014, 20:12 #49226

    Hi Jeff - His body language has betrayed his feelings for a few years now, but you're right it's taken a drop to new levels of desperation since Xmas, especially the hand wringing as you say. To be honest, whatever my opinion is of his tenure right now its quite worrying really. The wringing and jerky head motions from side to side and dropping his head low to his knee areas are signs of moderate breakdown in many people. At 64, he really should be thinking of packing it in if for no other reason than his own sanity and well being.I sincerely hope Arsenes own stubbornness, sense of obligation, work ethic, call it what you will don't force him to stop. Football, the majority of the tosser type players in it and AFC aren't worth that.

  62. jeff wright

    Apr 09, 2014, 19:42 #49225

    Posh folk don't boast about being 'minted' it's really rather uncouth .John is just a bitter AKB who shuffles around Holloway road wearing an old raincoat and wooley hat smoking roll ups and spitting phlegm out onto the pavement . I second the motion to get behind the team though against Wigan ,shame that our manager the thin white puke can't show the same support instead of just sitting there on the bench head down while wringing his hands in fear . I have never seen a more inept looking Arsenal manager as Wenger now is in all my time following the gunners.

  63. Vince

    Apr 09, 2014, 19:32 #49224

    I agree with the article, like many. But I do believe we need to put all this aside until after Saturday at least. If we lose on Saturday, let the debate re-commence if we win park the debate until after the cup final. I remember many of our most painful defeats were to supposedly lower level opposition - Ipswich 78, West Ham 80, Luton 88, Birmingham 2011 etc. so this semi nor the final that would follow if we win on Saturday are a forgone conclusion especially the way we are playing at the moment. I also think most of our most famous victories were when felt like the underdogs (still beating united 3-2 after losing a 2-0 lead, winning 2-0 at Anfield in 89, coming back to beat the spuds in 87. Even if the team do not have a totally winning mentality at the moment us, the fans can on Saturday. So lets just put all our frustrations on hold for a short time, get totally behind the team and make one hell of a noise at Wembley- what say you?

  64. Ken

    Apr 09, 2014, 19:27 #49223

    John Rawley. Can I have a loan.

  65. jjetplane

    Apr 09, 2014, 19:26 #49222

    Would that be the Lord John of the West-Uppers?

  66. Ken

    Apr 09, 2014, 19:14 #49221

    John Rawley I am pleased for you tell me are you related to Wenger in any way. If so tell him to leave the club as you posh people say it.

  67. jeff wright

    Apr 09, 2014, 19:13 #49220

    I suggest then big shot John that you contact Ivan and offer to back up your bragging with some of your minted cash spoof. Unless of course it's all just talk and they do say that talk is cheap .

  68. John Rawley

    Apr 09, 2014, 19:08 #49219

    Not made of money but pretty minted and in love with everything Arsenal.

  69. Ken

    Apr 09, 2014, 18:41 #49218

    more of the same then John Rawley. Made of money are we?

  70. John Rawley

    Apr 09, 2014, 18:21 #49216

    Excellent value for money and love the Emirates experience. Would happily pay double so no problems with me. Up the Gunners.

  71. Ken

    Apr 09, 2014, 18:08 #49215

    Still look on the bright side Arsenal will always be better than the spuds. Wenger can't F**k that up.

  72. Ken

    Apr 09, 2014, 17:40 #49213

    I haven't been to the Emirates for three years now, but my mate gives me tickets to see Arsenal play at Chelsea and Everton and I wished I had never gone. Just my luck lol.

  73. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 09, 2014, 17:34 #49212

    I read a piece from the preened clown we have in goals on the FA Cup, it is the only trophy we can win but it is a trophy, not it's a great trophy, a great competition, a trophy we've always held in high esteem, but it's a trophy, contempt been shown even now at this stage as someone has already said would we be surprised if it was sacrificed for fourth place?

  74. jjetplane

    Apr 09, 2014, 17:05 #49211

    Only just got to watch Everton highlights and after their second goal the joy on those toffee fan's faces was a joy. Contrast that with RON's masterful summation of what happens when a club moves from the Daily Mirror to the Telegraph. Everton played like a proper football team, displaying a humility in their game that reflects their present standing as a club going places. We have seen two managers in the past week (Chelsea and Everton) where the managers are so in touch with their clubs that the fans are walking on football air. Contrast the Arsenal bench of self indulged misery and some outcast wrestling with his clothing in public. Dictators are of a breed generally off their faces in the most unwatchable of ways. That idiot having a row with a duvet brings to mine many of those grotesque images. Leave! We cannot stand your inexcusable frustrations that are as spineless as your team. Now then, when were we ..... Gonna need that duvet 'cause Wigan is coming! In case you had forgotten Le Zip, it's a Game of Cups.

  75. Ron

    Apr 09, 2014, 16:45 #49210

    Hi Ken - It does me mate too. The best way to deal with it though is to laugh. A few buddies and myself have seen all the thrashings this year plus a few other dismal away shows.Its now like following the promoted team who really shdt have been promoted i.e a bit like Derby 7/8 years back when it was a hammering every week but they (the fans) enjoyed their season anyway under that hapless little oaf Jewell.As the goals rain in, its quite a joke to rate each one s quality out of 5 and then pick out those closest who you just know are going to leave at half time f---ing and blinding their way to the exits! I agree with you. They ll get 4th and prob win the Cup (unconvincingly and with a penalty or two needed). Those mugs at the Emirates will lap it up like nectar. As far as the home 'fan' base is concerned, dare i say it but the Club would benefit from sliding down and having a few seasons in the middle regions of that league.Sift them out, make the Club see what its done to itself, make it re create a football Club again, get a proper Coach with balls and hard players with points to prove and reach out to real people who love the game for what it is. Youre right re Wenger too. Never mind the Hull Tigers name change proposal, he would have us called 'Arsenes Arses'in the blink of an eye if he could im sure. Im just surprised he hasnt ditched that f---ing coat in favour of a Louis X1111 costume by now. It suits the image of the Club as i perceive it.

  76. Ken

    Apr 09, 2014, 16:24 #49209

    Nice one Ron it should be Wenger Fc. It makes me mad to see the club we love go to bits, but Wenger will have his way again.

  77. Ron

    Apr 09, 2014, 16:16 #49208

    Arsene W FC - Thats funny! 'Ship a shed load'. They really ought to change our logo and put that underneath a pic of a pop gun after this Season.

  78. Ken

    Apr 09, 2014, 16:03 #49207

    We will win the F.A. Cup you can be sure of that and we will finish 4th, Wenger is too scared of losing his job you watch the team will be up for it. I remember last season we were 4 or 5 games till the end of the season, and Wenger rallied the players for the few games remaining.

  79. Arsene Wanger's FC

    Apr 09, 2014, 16:03 #49206

    Philanthropic club. Crocks, misfits, has-beens, never will be's. freebies, frenchies. Yes, we signed Källström a player of great quality knowing he had a micro fracture. But his club were still paying half his wages. He's a very useful player to have on your bench. Losing the fulcrum of my midfield Ramsey to injury pre-new year never made me panic. Of course I didn't see the need for a like to like replacement. Firstly who could we get and where? I'm not Jose Mourinho who knows specifically what fine tuning his team needs! No, I can use what I have. I can perm the rest of my midfielders and there will always be a chance someone will return from injury, as I have so many to choose from coming back. This will allow me to play my idealised tippy tappy possession game Arsenal are famous for. I can then use Arteta (the closest thing to Ray the crab Wilkins) I've ever seen. Then when we face our competitors in Big Crunch games we will play tippy tappy go to the flanks and hey presto be overrun through the middle of the park because I lost Ramsey to injury and it wasn't my fault it's a car accident and cest la vie....we can have another go next year, yes??! My star player Özil will not miss Walcott, I have a cunning plan. My tippy tappy midfield will find a way for me and I can then utilise all my resources at play. It's not important if we ship a shed load here or there now. The main thing is those lovely delicate passy passy movements that our fans love and enjoy. When we face Barca and Bayern they can have 65% possession safe in the knowledge that we will be back next year, and so on........ I want to do well for my club!

  80. WENGER MUST GO ASAP(MARCUS). HES A BUST

    Apr 09, 2014, 15:45 #49205

    RON BRAVO, BRAVO. EVERYTHING YOU SAID I AGREE WITH 100%. THE EMIRATES IS NOTHING MORE THAN A CORPORATE BOWL . ITS A JOKE. YOU CAN NOT SWEAR OR DO ANYTHING THAT SEEMS WORKING CLASS LOOL OR FOR THE LOWER CLASSES . THE CLUB HAS TURNED INTO A POSH BOY CLUB. ITS RUN BY ETON BOYS. I THINK THEY SAID ARSENAL IS THE MOST POSH CLUB IN THE COUNTRY AND THAT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME ONE BIT. THE CLUB IS A JOKE. THE ATMOSPHERE IS NO WHERE TO BE SEEN OR HEARD. AS YOU RIGHTLY SAID ITS CALLED THE LIBRARY FOR A REASON. WE INTIMIDATE NO BODY

  81. Ron

    Apr 09, 2014, 15:41 #49204

    Yes, it would be nice to return those Club seats to real supporters.Thing is such is their exclusivity to the rest of the stadium, they will always be premium priced beyond the pocket of most and treated as a special area. The views are the best in the stadium lets face it. The types i describe arent just Club seat bods though mate. Theyre everywhere, esp in the upper tiers more so than the lower of course. The ground is like the freaking 'Titanic'. Aristoctrats and Dudes at the top, scum below. Its designed to create an air amongst those above that their product and place in the 'Arsenal society' enjoying their 'match day experience'' is above their pleb subjects beneath them. The middle clasess in this Country are easily pleased - offer them a dog turd sprayed in chanel and wrapped in the daily mail sold at 25 quid as a quality kebab and they feel like the dogs bollocks as they quaff it down everytime. I wonder of it woman and kids in the boats first, when the ships going down? They need to be told now, because its listing to starboard badly, hull full of holes and has been doing for 7 years.

  82. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 09, 2014, 15:17 #49203

    Ron, you have it off to a T mate, like your self i had use of a club level ticket a couple of seasons back and their all up there alright walking about in their expensive suits with an Arsenal scarf around their neck if there's anything that looks so wrong and out of place it's that, walking about as if they owned the bloody place looking down their nose at fans like myself in jeans and trainers and a football shirt as if to ask what are you doing here and if you asked them they wouldn't be able to tell you who we played last and would probably have to look at the programme to tell you who we were playing today and wouldn't know who the last manager was. I've even seen their eight, nine, ten, year old sons with them dressed the same in a suit. Ive witnessed them taking their seats in a restaurant an hour before kick off toasting, wenger no doubt, or some business deal, it wasn't trophies anyway, still there scoffing and gulping after the final whistle not having left the table through out, and those that did were straight back before the players got of the pitch for more grub quaffing expensive wine and laughing while looking out the window as the ordinary fans rush past for the train or taxi. As i told on here before i've even seen them sitting in their seat with the match underway reading a book not the programme but a book i kid you not, lifting their eyes up only if the crowd made a noise and then the head went straight back down to the book again, i even made a video recording of them i had to stop after a couple of minutes or i would have missed the whole match myself. Yes Ron and jeff it's people like this, yes people, among others that have this club the way it is now.

  83. WENGER MUST GO ASAP(MARCUS). HES A BUST

    Apr 09, 2014, 15:01 #49202

    LOOK. WENGER NEEDS TO GO AND HE NEEDS TO TAKE THE SILENT FOOL KRONKE AND GAZDIS WITH HIM. NO POINT GETTING RID OF WENGER AND KEEPING THOSE CLOWNS IN POSITION. THE CLUB IS IN DISARRAY. I HAVE A BAD, BAD FEELING WE OUR GOING TO LOSE ON SATURDAY. I JUDT DONT KNOW WHY, BUT I HAVE THAT FEELING. A LATE GOAL FROM WIGAN AND WE ARE OUT SMH. ALSO MOURNHIO SEEMS TO BE CONFIRMING EVERY THING HE SAID ABOUT WENGER OH DEAR, I HATE MOURHNIO CAN NOT STAND THE MAN. WHAT REALLY ANNOYS ME IS THAT CHELSEA COULD WIN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE. I HOPE THEY DONT OF COURSE, BUT THEY COULD NOW. BUT YES GET WENGER OUT AND TAKE KRONKE AND GAZDIS WITH HIM. THE 3 KILLERS OF OUR ONCE GREAT CLUB. WE HAVE BECOME A BUSINESS MODAL IN TERMS OF WHAT BUSINESS STUDENTS LEARN FROM. WHAT A JOKE

  84. jeff wright

    Apr 09, 2014, 14:29 #49201

    A good summing up there Ron of the Emirates experience. You forgot to mention the clueless tourists with their cameras having their 'Emirates Stadium experience' that is on their itinerary . At one time they sent them to that other French inspired museum to look at dummies,Madam Tussaud's at Baker Street. Jap tourist at the Emirates , Wayne Wooney ? Arsenal supporter; No no he plays for Man United there's Arsene Wenger though standing down there ... Jap tourist: Ah!So ... Arsene Wanger... camera out... snap snap snap...

  85. Ron

    Apr 09, 2014, 14:14 #49200

    True enough Jeff. The thing is the Emirates is 'a theatre' and Arsenal and Wenger want it that way. The glitzy image, the soft seats, the restaurants and the delicate foods and wines, the carpets and relaxed soft furnishings, the well dressed, well heeled clientele in their chords, golf jumpers and brogues, wives (2 inches of foundation creme daubed on her face to hide the tram lines in the forehead and avoid her having to screw her hat on, instead of placing it on her head) and daughters (hair extensions in place naturally) in tow wearing their expensive shades, trying to look sultry and usually failing badly,cameras in hand, mobiles primed so no office e mails are missed, the kids safely ensconced down in the family enclosure, with Uncle Nickolas sitting with them and Cousin 'Justin', the kids having spent their 50 quid in that Club shop. A steady glass of wine after a meal, ease back at a table pre kick off (dont you dare fart though - its not allowed here you know!), browse the prog, wondering who on earth the photographs in it are of (Dads clueless) with puzzled frowns (i wonder if Uncle Nic knows?, ill phone him and send him a selfie i think and get him to wave - Oooh i do so love Uncle Nic, hes soooo coool isnt he). This is the Emirates Jeff. Ever likely the place is a morgue most weeks and nobody queries whats going on. Football became secondary at that Club the day they upped sticks to go to the awful place.Even the players they do buy have to look 'nice' and behave impeccably. They have to be delicate and have 'elan' so to tie in with the French sauve image Wengers made for the Club, the Clubs kit has to have style and 'dash' so to suit the smooth cosmopolitan 'feel'and trappings thats have subsumed the Club and bathed the football in it. Its an airy, 'chatting class' Club now, no swearing here you know and make sure that you open the doors for the lady mentality. The place is bloody awful bastardized version of what a football ground shd be like basically. It truly is a souless bowl and the music that they gently beat out sums the pretentiosness up prefectly -'The Wonder of you'FFS!. Its got to be the least intimidating ground in Europe. Im surprised the opponents dont doze off to be honest. All of this new 'culture' has rotted every player that been on the books since they went there save for the few that have had the good sense to get away. Thank heavens for the away grounds and matches! I venture that what has happened to Arsenal FC wouldnt have happenened in any City in the UK apart from London. The irony is that for so many decades it was Arsenal who had the grit and the fighting image and always Chelsea who were the fancy dan club, Tottenham the perenniel lightweights and West Ham the deluded dreamers of beautiful football, bubbles blowing gracefully in the wind. Arsenal have nicked every item of clothing that those Clubs once wore to reach todays feeble imagery and product, if thats what it is.

  86. What Wenger would have done .. Last Night

    Apr 09, 2014, 13:41 #49198

    Wenger would have brought on Ashley Cole for Hazard , and ignored the protests of the crowd.. At half time with PSG 7-0 up , Wenger would have.... done nothing. After 63 minutes exactly Wenger would have brought off Oscar and whoever else was playing well and brought on two defensive midfielders to go out 10-1 on aggregate.. Afterwards he would have spoken about the speerit of the team and that the result was nothing more than an accident.

  87. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 09, 2014, 13:35 #49197

    And another thing, i'm sure seeing the expert in being successful running down the touch line and celebrating would have pissed OGL off even more and dented his ego.

  88. El Bodgeo

    Apr 09, 2014, 13:33 #49196

    Our team, including appearing subs, when we beat Everton 7-0 at Highbury in 2005: Jens Lehmann, Ashley Cole, Philippe Senderos, Sol Campbell, Lauren, Robert Pires, Cesc Fabregas, Patrick Vieira, Mathieu Flamini, Edu, Jose Reyes, Dennis Bergkamp, Robin Van Persie, Thierry Henry. Just thought I'd wallow in the not too distant past before we face the mighty Wigan this weekend. Sigh.

  89. jeff wright

    Apr 09, 2014, 13:28 #49195

    Ray and the other theater goers who go to the Emirates for 'entertainment' would be better off sticking to watching West End musicals . Wenger , a right old looking miserable so and so, would fit in well in Les Miserables that is quote ... an enthralling story of broken dreams passion, and sacrifices ... a typical French farce in other words ... not much passion however at the Emirates and the only sacrifices are being made by supporters sacre bleu ! The broken dreams fits the scenario well though because despite all of the hype, the claims made for the move to the new stadium, plus the increased cost of this to the supporters, these have not been fulfilled. Football is a results game not a West End Show with a rehearsed happy ending and anyone who finds beating lower sides at the stadium while constantly coming up short against the top ones 'entertaining' is obviously easily pleased. But they are exactly the sort of customer that Stan likes to have coming through the gates. Abba's song... Money Money Money...it's a rich man's world ... would make a fitting one for the team to run out to ... that's the wonder of you never did sound right in fact all a bit pretentious really.

  90. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 09, 2014, 13:17 #49194

    Tony Evans, spot on yes we fans can say what we like about maureen but he knows what he's doing and he's a winner, and that's just two things our old has been doesn't and isn't.

  91. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 09, 2014, 12:56 #49193

    Any Old Iron, good shout but would he have been brought on as well by wenger? or ruined.

  92. Any Old Iron

    Apr 09, 2014, 12:51 #49192

    Has anybody mentioned Arsene you got the wrong Yaya. The real one is already at Man City. You know, Kolo's brother. Remember Kolo?! Barcelona player....was pricey, worth every centime erm...pound! €$¥%#R!

  93. Fozzy's mate

    Apr 09, 2014, 12:42 #49191

    An articel in the times this morning re our structure of non accountability sums up our predicament nicely.

  94. Gaz

    Apr 09, 2014, 12:35 #49190

    @Gooner 4 Life: Totally understand your dilema pal as I'm going through exactly the same thing. Pretty certain if we had a board with a british footballing background we'd never have been put in this situation because Wenger would have had so much pressure put on him he'd have left ages ago. As it is he's been allowed to effectively run this Club and therefore nobody at the Club will ever put pressure on him let alone sack him. The stark reality is the only way he'll go is if loses the fans and the only way that'll happen is if results get even worse. As you rightly say its a f*cking horrible place to be in...

  95. Tony Evans

    Apr 09, 2014, 12:31 #49189

    JJ - You are right in that initially I did want PSG to win, but as the match wore on I changed my mind, and for the first time in a long while I actually didn't mind an English team, other than Arsenal, winning a CL match. Good luck to them.

  96. Joe S.

    Apr 09, 2014, 12:31 #49188

    It was horrible watching Chelsea getting the job done this morning.As much as I wanted them to lose there was always that gut feeling that they were going to get through as they chased every ball down. Each player was primed for the challenge.Undoubtedly a certain faction of Arsenal fans here will tell me to beat it and go and support another team, but Chelsea are everything Arsenal are not.Of course they are being excessively bank rolled however the players Chelsea buy are winners who adapt into the club culture. It's now a ten year tradition based on spirit and a will to win. Regardless of their manager failure is not an option.Here at Arsenal we have our fourth placed trophy, having been sold the illusion that we are morally better than anyone else. How dare these AKBs anyway.What are they saying,when they tell Arsenal fans who don't buy the official crap to go elsewhere? Do they mean that to be a true Arsenal fan you must get behind a management team which is greedy,penny pinching, short sighted, tactically naïve and lacks judgement in recruiting and developing new talent.

  97. Ron

    Apr 09, 2014, 11:52 #49187

    jj - Yes. Had to admire Chelsea s attitude last night. Found myself willing them on to win in fact, esp after they hit the bar twice. Real men and 'wanting it', just like the GG years at Arsenal.

  98. jjetplane

    Apr 09, 2014, 11:42 #49186

    RED MeMBER on the nail there mate. The tide has changed and the 'edge' supporters at Emiratz are more techno kids from Old street with gaps in their weekend afternoons. Arsenal as a club is dead and buried with yank and the money counter in charge. TONY EVANS watched that last night and wanted PSG to progress just to see Maureen and Terry sobbing. They were rubbish and Chelski were full of the stuff that is non-existent at Arsenal from top to bottom. The Emiratz could be Arsenal but it will take another half decade without the top heavy rot that is making the whole thing crumble, to get anywhere near respectability. That half decade could be fun. Someone asked me last night 'you could have Maureen for a manager' - if only. Winter (Wigan) is coming....

  99. Red Member

    Apr 09, 2014, 11:23 #49185

    I have been calling for non renewal of season tickets for the past 2/3 years but after facing criticism on several Arsenal forums I do accept that is not going to work. what is happening though is that as the hard core support is pushed out through rising ticket prices you are left with a more sanitised home support who are not going to protest and will accept 4th place finishes and not winning anything. the club love these supporters as they tend to spend more money at the match too. this is Arsenal in 2014 and nothing will change if the suppoters continue to allow the current regime to continue.

  100. Ron

    Apr 09, 2014, 11:05 #49184

    Gooner 4 Life - Its your longevity as a supporter that makes you feel its a dilemma. I was like that for a few years. Its hard but if you focus on things as if you had only been a supporter for say 6/7 years, look at how football has gone, commercially and tactically and take a long honest look at Wenger and what Arsenal 'the Club' and Arsenal 'the team and the sqaud' are/arent doing and it soon becomes apparent that there is no case at all to support the view that Wenger and his backroom staff should stay, save for emotion and sympathy. It absolutely needs a total clear out. Mediocrity with effort is one thing, but comfortable mediocrity as i see it is worthless. Im of the view that Arsenal sqaud and Coach are all way, way too comfortable there. Its more like a holiday camp looking at the performances.

  101. Any Old Iron

    Apr 09, 2014, 10:32 #49183

    I'll play Sa- NO-GO v Bayern. Giroud will be fresh for Sunderland as that's my grandee Plan!! I vant all the trophies off course!! Next season we will do the same, off course!! %#*$¥€R!

  102. AFCasap

    Apr 09, 2014, 10:12 #49182

    the ticket prices and (euro mega clubs like everton) thrashing keep rising and the arsene fan clubbers love it!...the only club with 2 billionaires.., but of course being the laughingstock that is emirates fc for the past 9 years...1 wants in invest in the club but isn't wanted, the other 1 (in charge) doesn't want to spend a penny...no! he wants the fans to do all the spending...and then theres the miserable/angry/failing 8 million quid boss looking for strikers in the French 2nd div!!!...and expects the real AFC fans to swallow that...you don't need too much mental strength to get the picture

  103. mowaller

    Apr 09, 2014, 9:58 #49181

    Oh dear another diatribe written by one of the many boo-boys who think it was a accident that we led the table before Christmas. Perhaps you should consider how Chelsea, Man City or Liverpool would have fared without 4 or 5 of their key players. Perhaps a bit more support and less vitriol would help those left to pick up the pieces.

  104. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Apr 09, 2014, 9:53 #49180

    Gooner 4 Life; we've been "so close" to becoming a great side again for the last 6 or 7 seasons, requiring as ever "only" 3 more players. But they don't come. With AW in charge we are doomed to hit the repeat and recycle button every season.

  105. Gooner 4 Life

    Apr 09, 2014, 9:34 #49179

    The problem is iff we win the FA Cup and scrape into the Champions League it will regarded as a successful season and Wenger et al will stay. If we get knocked out of the Cup by, with all due respect to the remaining clubs, a lesser team and only qualify for the Europa League (which isn't a certainty either!) I would hope the management and board will change. The sad thing is that I don't know which I would prefer - instant minor success or the possibility of a bright new future with some real ambition??? We are so close to being a great club again and with the injection of 2 or 3 more quality world class players and some ambition on the pitch by the board we can lay the foundations of a successful side again. Being a season ticket holder and supporter for some 40+ years its the worst dilemma I can remember and not a situation the fans and supporters should be faced with. Like many I pay a fortune for 2 season tickets and will be at Wembley on Saturday and giving my total support but time and patience (and money) is running out!

  106. chris dee

    Apr 09, 2014, 9:32 #49178

    It's not about signing this player or that player. It's about the lack of organisation,lack of a defensive strategy,arrogance masking stupidity by ignoring opponents strengths,lack of an ability to change tactics during a match,arrogance masking stupidity by playing the same outdated way for the last 5 years,arrogance masking stupidity by not realising the players do not believe,quite correctly, in his attitude in big games which have led to humiliation after humiliation,it's the lack of discipline that allows Chesney,an average goalkeeper with a big gob who keeps cocking up and has won sod all,to take a selfie on the pitch after a match.George Graham would have chucked him back into the reserves for pulling s**t like that. Even if we are lucky enough to win the the FA Cup (will any of us be surprised if we balls it up)Arsene has got to go. We have been treading water for 5 years,while other clubs have progressed which means we are being left behind. Enough is enough.

  107. allybear

    Apr 09, 2014, 9:31 #49177

    Well said Jeff Wright! I totally agree with you. If people are happy to pay these prices then they deserve what they get. A boycott of the games is the only way to force change. I would spend my hard earned money on something more important and not that dross. One more thing can whoever is responsible please stop putting up pictures of Wenger.

  108. Any Old Iron

    Apr 09, 2014, 9:23 #49176

    Just in case anyone overlooked Wigan's result last night. They got done 0-1 by "no one likes, we don't care." They're preparing for Wenger's tippy tappy possession game! Arsene #%€$£R!!

  109. Tony Evans

    Apr 09, 2014, 8:43 #49175

    I watched the Chelsea match last night and it depressed me about the situation at Arsenal even more. Chelsea were everything we aren't - powerful, athletic, determined, well organised and led by a manager that knows what he is doing, and sets his stall out to get the required result. Look at Mourinho's reaction when Chelsea's second goal went in - straight over to the players barking out instructions and compare him to our comatose, duvet clad charlatan of a manager. To have Chelsea ruling the roost in London is galling beyond belief and that will not change until Wenger leaves.

  110. Any Old Iron

    Apr 09, 2014, 8:34 #49174

    Wenger: " vee vuld like to sign Cahill. As you know he has 6 months left on his contract. Gartside: " yes, £6mill and he's yours. Wenger: " yes but he's only got 6 months left on his contract. That equals you letting us have him for our offer price. Hart side: £6mill take it or leave it." Wenger " I do not go public regarding these matters. I made an offer and Bolton rejected it." Gartside: his offer was £2mill and not anymore. We laughed it out of sight." Mourinho: " Gary Cahill last night was one of my best players. £6mill - that's the best bit of business Chelsea has ever done." Arsene Knows??!

  111. Aussie

    Apr 09, 2014, 7:44 #49173

    Ha ha, 'sleeping bag of a coat' I like it! Pity they cant zip it up from top to bottom and carry it off to the morgue with the 3 inside it. (I wont say what I am really thinking) but I do believe we all share common ground.

  112. Frank

    Apr 09, 2014, 6:55 #49172

    Ray why are you comparing Arsenal with West Ham you might as well compare us with Orient.When we moved from Highbury we were told it was so we could compete with Real Madrid Barcelona Man Utd and Chelsea.All this crap about Arsenal playing good football.We only play good football against the poor teams in the prem.Check our record against the big clubs for the last 5 years.Do we really pay the higgest ticket prices in world football to say we are better than West Ham? A pathetic arguement.Wenger Gazidis and Kroenke OUT

  113. Lee

    Apr 09, 2014, 2:54 #49171

    Great post fella, I like you am the same, had my ST nearly 20 years (been following longer though) and away and Europe year after year! I'm DISGUSTED with the way things have gone since we left home (highbury ) ! We are being taken for complete MUGS by this lot, I've said for a few years now were in the wrong hands!! That's why wengers still in charge. I wouldn't waste your breath in the hope of a sensible reply from the morons at the club, I got nothing back when asking for a refund of my Chelsea ticket ! No sympathy at all, they don't give a turd about us as long as we keep bank rolling stans account ! Football ambition is something not associated with our great club anymore! Just finances !! I'm gutted, we should of won the league this year ! But yet again collapse cos of a tactically inept and penny pinching manager who sadly has really lost his way in the current modern game ! Don't let him, nor all the other organ grinders at the club try and pull the wool over ya eyes with all the petrol dollars c**p!! Our annual turnover is mega! We were lied to years ago!! They sold us a dream about leaving highbury to compete with the biggest and best in Europe! Ha what a joke!! Years down the line and still no European cup?? Whilst having to stomach seeing those west London post 2005 mourinho muppets do it! Sick and tired of it , we go backwards year after year and get spouted the same old b****x time and again ! We knew ALL season we needed another striker and he did nothing ! Walcott got injured on 4th January , diagnosed 2 days later out for rest of season, he still had the rest of the month to replace him in the transfer window!! And did NOTHING! But bring in an old washed up injured midfielder? Embarrassing !

  114. Ray

    Apr 08, 2014, 23:44 #49170

    I would never shop at such a hole as Waitrose, I'm more a Marks and Spencer man.

  115. Andy M

    Apr 08, 2014, 23:02 #49169

    A definition of madness is when someone continues to do the same thing time and time again and expects a different outcome. Arsene, I fear your time has come. The Everton game was the final straw.

  116. WENGER OUT

    Apr 08, 2014, 20:41 #49167

    Ray - Are you for real? Do you read what you're saying before you post it? A good article, but not very original, have seen it here so many times I find it painful. More painful than that are the results of the BSM survey. How can so many people want Wenger to continue? All I can assume is that these people are spuds saboteurs, or more likely the type of fan who occasionally watches the odd match when 'we're on sky'; it really sickens me. Those of us who watch every kick of every season can see just how rubbish we really are these days. The upper middle class, pretentious, snobby, Waitrose going, Wenger loving, absoulute f**king w*****s are the ones ruining this club. Wake the f**k up guys!

  117. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 08, 2014, 20:40 #49166

    It used to be the chavs, cithe, even the spuds, now it's the hammers, there must have been a false bottom found in the barrel and now it's been scraped. But it's good to know even the scrapers think that's the level we're now at. You couldn't make it up.

  118. Mike Collins

    Apr 08, 2014, 20:03 #49165

    What's so sad about all this is that the great times us older fans enjoyed at Highbury could be so easily replicated, to the power of a thousand, at the Emirates for younger generations. Make some sections standing room only, like the old North Bank and the Clock End, and reinject the long-lost atmosphere; get rid of the mid-tier corporate nonsense (I've been there and it's full of shire-county careerists doing their "time" in London, many of whom have precious little interest in football); start a scheme in the surrounding community to let in local kids at a heavy discount- ie. Holloway, Hornsey, Islington, Archway, Barnsbury, Canonbury, etc. - because they will become the real Gooners of tomorrow, much more so than Hampshire-born merchant bankers and social workers, for example, who always piss off back home at certain key moments of their lives. Finally, let's open ownership of the club to ALL the Arsenal community, especially those people rooted within 30 miles of the club. Yes, we need executive leaders but I feel the likes of Dein and Usmanov would discharge their duties responsibly and would see the merits of a fan-owned club, by which ALL could profit. Under such a regime, peevish, declining old men undermining the present and the future by trading on the memory of their fading dreams would not be permitted to happen. I'm getting old myself now but would like to see some respect restored to Arsenal before I am summoned to the Marble Halls. Come on you Gunners!

  119. cornish gooner

    Apr 08, 2014, 19:28 #49164

    ARSENE WENGER - HEALTH SHOCK!! I can exclusively reveal that the Arsenal Supremo is suffering a major health challenge. He has been diagnosed as suffering from what used to be commonly referred to as a "Napoleon Complex". The illness is normally associated with people of diminished stature and Mr Wenger, something of a beanpole himself, is certainly not in this category - which makes his case study of peculiar interest. A specialist in the complex field of football management, Mr P Barclaycard, when asked to comment said it would probably be more appropriate to refer to the conditon as "Chapman's Syndrome" - a reference to an undoubtedly great Arsenal manager of the last century.. The symptoms of the illness are similar to the Napoleon Complex whereby the patient exhibits an overwhelming desire for total power and control over others. However, in this instance the sufferer shows severe delusional tendencies regarding the reality of his situation - namely his career achievements and, importantly, his future objectives - whilst denying himself the resources to achieve his personal targets. Furthermore, Mr Wenger's condition has deteriorated to such an extent that he frequently appears unable to listen to others, fails to delegate and has developed peculiar speech patterns when questioned - a long and complicated response to a simple question, when analysed, usually proves to be complete gibberish or fantastical, understood and appreciated only by a dwindling band of Acolytes, known as AKBs. Mr Wenger's Company have apparently been aware of the problems for some years but a spokesman, a Mr Gazidis, stated that the problem was containable in his view as Wenger had continued to produce excellent trading results. He stated he was happy to continue to serve under Mr Wenger and also said that the Company owner, an American of considerable means, had made it clear that he, Wenger, was to be given anything he wished and was not to be placed under any undue pressure. However, an un-named psychiatrist, a specialist in illnesses of the rich,said he had noted a fundamental flaw in Wenger's philosophy which, if untreated, could cause his complete breakdown - a conflict between his frugal approach to Company investment, and, on the other hand, his personal wealth and his fantasies - in particular his crusade to achieve his Holy Grail of winning the Champions League (a football competition). Mr Wenger is on record as saying that he could not imagine leaving his Company without achieving this. However, he thought Mr Wenger's total breakdown would be unlikely to occur for two years or more.

  120. Ken

    Apr 08, 2014, 19:20 #49162

    @Ray was you watching the game v Chelsea Everton, Co's I feel bloody sorry for the Arsenal fans who was there. And I was there and you talk about loyalty think again.

  121. Matthew Bazell

    Apr 08, 2014, 19:07 #49161

    Ray, I couldn't give two ****s about your mate at West Ham who pays £900!!!!! More fool him that's his problem. You're just comparing one rip off to another which isn't a justification. And I'll also question your argument of quality. I used to pay a whole lot less to watch better Arsenal teams. A season ticket in 1989 was £85. That team would beat this Arsenal team hands down.

  122. Aylesbury Gooner

    Apr 08, 2014, 19:05 #49160

    Good post by the way but I do hope someone can correct me if am wrong about my statement but heard the board would still be happy to offer Wenger a new contract even if he loses the semi final and finishes outside the top four please tell me im away with the fairies.

  123. Stevieo

    Apr 08, 2014, 19:03 #49159

    Let me guess. You’ll be sending this letter on to Ivan in the same envelope with your cheque for next year’s season ticket? It makes sense. Saves on the price of another stamp. You send this in, and you’ll give them a good laugh. They’ll be in stitches with the “any other business that treat its customers as they do would fail” because that’s what makes this scam such fun for them. You’d be better off sending a similar letter to yourself. Ask yourself how you can justify financing this circus. Ask yourself are you happy paying Wenger and the toothless players their exorbitant salaries? Whatever the answers, it don’t matter, because you will justify to yourself the need for buying a season ticket. So why bother wasting Ivan’s time. If Ivan had the courtesy to reply to you and tell you the truth that he does not care for you and that there is a waiting list for your ticket, would it make a difference? Nope. This letter would be a fantastic piece of work if it finished with “stick your 3% and I’ll be back when you and Wenger are gone”

  124. I remember when Arsenal cared about its fans.

    Apr 08, 2014, 19:02 #49158

    As I have said on numerous occasions Ivan the Terrible is a Mandelson spin doctor for the club. He has been exposed so many times now he is seen as rarely as Lord Lucan. This is now Arsenal plc run by souless cyborgs who have a pecuniary interest in ripping off the supporters. Only when we get supporters on the board the German model of supporter ownership will you have a team with a focus on the results on the field of play. For Arsenal plc it is rip off supporters for the good of profits and individual bonuses. There is no chance of a change of heart on the exploitive 3 percent increase. Like with the suppose reason for the move to the Emi***** it will be falsly claimed that it is to remain competitive with the top teams(sic). No heart, no passion, no integrity.Prepare for groundhog day next season.

  125. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 08, 2014, 18:39 #49156

    Talking of clowns and something that hasn't been mentioned on here much,how many goals has that preened clown we have masquerading as a goalkeeper conceded now? The high scoring humiliations on their own over three or four games what was it 17? 20? (that's a stat you'll not hear very often i wonder why)i've lost count, that's enough on it's own let alone the rest to have him benched, stuck in the stiffs, or his arse kicked back to where ever he came from, any other manager worth his salt would do that, but no not our excuse for one, he just keeps plodding on persisting hoping it/he'll become good even after humiliation after humiliation a sack able offence on it's own.

  126. Ray

    Apr 08, 2014, 18:39 #49155

    A pal of mine in his early 60's pays over £900 for his West Ham season ticket for 19 games to watch what is basically rugby disguised as football. I pay just over £1100 for 26 games to watch what I would call quality football, obviously not good enough for you perfectionists but my mate says there's plenty of spare tickets available down at the Boleyn for you boys. He also can't believe how the glory hunters are always dripping about their lot and says that Arsenal fans have been the same seen the sixties.

  127. jeff wright

    Apr 08, 2014, 18:36 #49154

    Ron a good analogy that on Wenger ! What I have always found to be an odd anomaly with Wenger and his Scrooge-like policies on buying experienced players is the contrast in how he spunked money away on young unproven ones . It runs into millions . He then has had to sell the few ones that make the grade to make up for this nonsense .Of course many wanted to leave anyway having hit the ceiling on wages under Wenger's pay the unproven more than anyone else would and vice-versa less to the top proven ones than they could earn at other clubs. The prospects of winning trophies at places like City,Chelsea and United,Barcelona, etc, also played a part .

  128. Up4Grabs

    Apr 08, 2014, 18:31 #49153

    Tony Evans you are not alone... It is the disenchantment of the 2nd Wenger era that is the most upsetting. Arsenal is not his club... He is not entitled to a job for life as a result of past glories... Get him out!!!

  129. jjetplane

    Apr 08, 2014, 17:57 #49150

    RON as we were getting a football lesson down here on the coast I laughed (really I was angry) how the band wagon jumpers hoping for a day out at wembley were giving it 'why are we so slow ... blah'. We had a poor first half (like the idiots playing Chelsea) but we went at them for the second, got two quick goals and gave them something to worry about. I came away with pride for the team who began the season with three players and are still pushing for promotion (almost there) and a Sussex cup in the offing. We were lucky we had so much fun in the old days at highbury, in the pubs, on the streets - the happy chaos of it all. Grizzly old Mancunians turning over hot dog stalls and getting run by skinhead armies while Frank and the boys kept it steady. Know what you mean about the Johnny-latelys who go to the Emiratz for the snoozy festival and their only pride is they have more bob in their accounts than the real Arsenal boys and girls who are no doubt serving up the salmon for them. Said it before RON 'your posts are da bomb mate' and there are loads of others on here with right feelings for Arsenal. Passion not preachment. Wigan - Orwell did not like us either. Said it was the smell. Wonder what those people on the board say .....

  130. Ron

    Apr 08, 2014, 17:57 #49151

    Went to mow ... add Schwartzer, Given and Alonso to your list as notable egs of Wengers penny pinching. Yes, who would ever have thought that the mob from the Bridge would ever be Londons top Club, when we recall what a rathole the Bridge was until relatively recently and the lower div footie they collapsed too not so very long ago? What an advert for London. Is there any other major City in the World that has such a badly supported, corrupt, classless, featureless and tawdry outfit as its top Club? Wengers certainly done his bit to lower the sporting tone of the City.

  131. Ron

    Apr 08, 2014, 17:46 #49149

    Jeff - The agents and Wenger mutually loathe each other.There have been a few of them comment over the years. Its his mantra to deny agents their ill gotten rewards (in his view)- (they are a scourge in some instances in fairness), but many do a good job for their client. Its just another facet of him allowing the precepts of his precious 'philosophy'to operate, even though its often to the detriment of the team. Such is his position there, he can run his little crusades and theres nobody going to curb him. Hes like King freaking Canute crossed with President Mugabe.

  132. Ron

    Apr 08, 2014, 17:34 #49148

    jj - Right with you as you know. You would surprised how much the mugs are forking out for the better seats upper tier v even the most drab of opponents at the bowl.Way, way more than your est ticket cost in your post. Mate, its perhaps a little unkind, but those who are rocking up to Arsenal every home game and paying for those higher price tickets deserve to be ripped off with no investment in the team, the half witted mugs.They trot up there, unquestioning like lambs to a slaughter house. The invincibles wdt justify those prices there in my view. Ill be so glad when the football bubble bursts and the TV decide its a stale product. I cant believe theyve hung around as long as they have.You ask most honest regulars (and i always used to say the same when i was one), you could go a whole season and count the number of genuinely good games on one hand.

  133. Matthew Bazell

    Apr 08, 2014, 16:58 #49147

    Ray, most games are unafordable to people on low incomes who for years followed the Arsenal. if you can't empathise with that predicament than shame on you. You clearly have no understanding of history or where the game came from before the Premier League.

  134. jeff wright

    Apr 08, 2014, 16:56 #49146

    According to one well known football agent Wenger is absolutely paranoid about paying more than he thinks a player is worth. This has led to him missing out on a number of players that have done well since elsewhere . Usully down to in football terms relatively small amounts of money Also Wenger's judgement on signing less well know players on the cheap has been exposed as being flawed with so many proving to be flops. Wenger's never looked the same since he got caught with his pants down with that tart in Paris . That affair knocked him off his moral pedestal on which he was placed and he has never been able to get back on to it.

  135. Ken

    Apr 08, 2014, 16:47 #49145

    People talk about loyalty, to see your team play crap and not put up a fight to see the Manager just stand there watching and get defeated by high scores yes I would go to watch them put the ticket prices up!!

  136. jjetplane

    Apr 08, 2014, 16:39 #49144

    Do you remember (E W & F) when it was half a crown into the north bank, a shilling in the schoolboys and a tab of acid was half a quid. Fast forward to me buying ST's for me and my Brother for 300 (300!) to watch Dennis and Tony rule for a while. Just reading here you pay 80 ****ing quid to see those idiots. Do what I did. Walk away until the children of Islington are respected again. I watch football eight leagues away from this rubbish and I cannot get enough of it. Price - a fiver! If I wanna see the Chicago Bulls, I'll jump on a plane. Seen 'em - once was enough. I bet a lot of tourists say that about their visit to Holloway.

  137. GoonGoonerGone

    Apr 08, 2014, 16:37 #49143

    Wenger is a Pentium 2 MODEL while all the top clubs have already bought their latest Apple Macs.

  138. Any Old Iron

    Apr 08, 2014, 16:37 #49142

    Double jeopardy. Sweet and sour. Win or lose. Happy or sad. Black or white. Smile or cry. Live or die?! Has there ever been more riding on a game than the encounter with Wigan? I'm juxtaposed as regards to the implications of this. Win and we can look forward to a final and possible 11th cup win which looks good in the plus column. Something Wenger has not been good at in recent years. Will Wenger have a bench to change a losing position? Will he be capable of changing a losing position? Lose and it will cause an avalanche of despair, anger, and hopefully Wenger's ultimate demise. Oh alright I'll settle for departure then. What do I desire? Hmmm.....look where that ***t has brought us!

  139. Gaz

    Apr 08, 2014, 16:31 #49141

    @Tony Evans: Don't normally drink loads at football but if we lose this one I'm staying out all night lol!!!

  140. Went to mow a meadow!

    Apr 08, 2014, 16:18 #49139

    As a kid I saw the Chelsea side of the late 60's early 70's. My older cousin who is a Chelsea man would take me with him. I was 8 years old when I first went. I wanted to to an Arsenal supporter but didn't want to upset him so I went along with it all until we moved again and separated. I did become that Arsenal fan and have been ever since. Wenger has allowed Arsenal to become Chelsea's poor second with his policies. Many of Chelsea's current and past players were pinpointed as potential Arsenal players, but became Chelsea players. The reason: MONEY! Value for money? Don't make me laugh...Wenger's 'fixers' were busy signing Joel Campbell, rather than capturing Juan Mata. Why? Money. Others include Hazard, Cech, A.Cole fiasco..Drogba, Cahill fiasco..please feel free to add any others I've omitted. As already mentioned by others Chelsea have a glittering trophy cabinet to show for all this. Chelsea have mown many meadows. Arsenal are a just barren field. W***er Wenger OUT all year long.

  141. Jack Romano

    Apr 08, 2014, 16:15 #49138

    Glory Hunter - Thanks for the clarification.

  142. Tony Evans

    Apr 08, 2014, 15:23 #49135

    Gaz - Hope you have a good day and enjoy the craic whatever the result. Have a pint or two for me!

  143. Gaz

    Apr 08, 2014, 15:17 #49134

    @Tony Evans: I hear you Pal and agree with everything you've just said! Couldn't miss the chance of seeing us at the new Wembley though (been to see us at the old/better place 22 times mind!) and if truth be known I'm well looking forward to it...

  144. Ron

    Apr 08, 2014, 15:12 #49133

    Ray - I reckon Eden Hazard has been one of the most entertaining players on view this year, Oscar too. They were both wearing a Chelsea shirt the last time i looked. What does 'value for money' mean by your definition? Admit it, your 'westlower' in disguise arent you, you cheeky little chappie you?

  145. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Apr 08, 2014, 14:49 #49132

    yes, that dour Chelsea side that have won 3 titles, 4 FA Cups, 2 League Cups, one European and one UEFA cup, whilst we have been watching impotently from the sidelines.

  146. Tony Evans

    Apr 08, 2014, 14:41 #49131

    I'm not even excited about this Saturday's FA Cup semi-final, and didn't even bother to try for a ticket. I can honestly say I don't care one way or the other whether we win or not, such is the depth of my disenchantment with Wenger's Arsenal. I hate feeling like this and miss the match day nerves and excitement, but after so many years of witnessing debacle after debacle, with nothing done to put matters right I just feel numb with it all. The thought of even another 2 years of the same piss poor management is awful. No plan B? Wenger hasn't even got a plan A anymore!

  147. jeff wright

    Apr 08, 2014, 14:12 #49130

    Ray is this dour Chelsea the same one that won the Champions League and Europa Cup in the last two seasons and that recently caned us by a cricket score at the bridge ? If you think that Wenger is serving up entertaining football then you clearly need a visit to SpecSavers. This entertaining football claim to defend a lack of winning trophies was what we used to mock the Hammers about years ago,my how times have changed !

  148. Ray

    Apr 08, 2014, 13:56 #49127

    Compared to all the other London clubs Arsenal are way ahead in terms of value for money and the overall amenities on offer at the Emirates. Chelsea supporters pay a minimum of £40 compared to our £25(lowest in the capitol) to watch dour football, while West Ham, Fulham, Spuds and Palace pay a fortune to watch mid-table and relegation scraps. A supporter of Crystal Palace has to purchase a category B game ticket for £35 before he is allowed to purchase a ticket against any of the big boys for a minimum of £45. Your arguments are a joke at best.

  149. nas

    Apr 08, 2014, 13:52 #49126

    As long as y'all keep paying, the prices will keep going up. Mr Kroenke is running a business, and there's no reason to change when the cash is rolling in. Supporters satisfaction isn't his top priority.

  150. Peter Wain

    Apr 08, 2014, 13:42 #49125

    If winning the fa cup retains Wenger then I am not sure I would want this. For years our operating in the transfer market has been awful. Dithering and indecisive strategies abound with countless reasons advanced for not buying player we clearly need. If we do not qualify for the champions league a ready made excuse for not buying any quality players will be used. We need a new owner board and manager now what we get is an increase in season ticket prices and the likely hood of Europa league football some management!!!! Quite clearly we need at least five players and quite clearly under the present regime we will not come any where near this. If we lose Sagna and Flappanski we should be in the market for 7 players.

  151. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 08, 2014, 13:39 #49124

    Good article/letter, but even if they do read it i'd doubt very much they'd listen (just like wenger) even if we were still successful and actually winning things the rise still wouldn't be justifiable.

  152. Glory Hunter

    Apr 08, 2014, 13:32 #49123

    Jack Romano. As a bonafide glory hunter, we only complain about ticket prices when we aren't winning.

  153. Ib

    Apr 08, 2014, 13:29 #49122

    I agree with everything you have said, but then came your "I have had a season ticket for 25 years, and travel regularly away at home and abroad". Well stop it! The only language they understand is money, so withhold it.

  154. Ron

    Apr 08, 2014, 13:16 #49121

    Blimey Ray, can only think that youve been spending too long in the Tardis again if you really do think that.

  155. El Bodgeo

    Apr 08, 2014, 13:12 #49120

    Finish 5th or 6th and we'll need 17 games to win the Europa League. Finish 7th and its 21 games. That's a lot of empty seats.

  156. Daniel MK Gooner

    Apr 08, 2014, 13:02 #49117

    I challenge anyone thinking things should stay the same to read todays blog by Le Grove - Very thought provoking (although he does say Gazidis is competent which I don't see much evidence of).......

  157. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Apr 08, 2014, 12:55 #49116

    Ray; you remind me of the gofers that the political parties pay to post positive things about the government on internet message boards, or Simon Cowell's minions who put thousands of views on Youtube for one of his acts. Your mates Ivan, Stan and AW have just signed the cheque and put it in the post.

  158. AFCIC

    Apr 08, 2014, 12:50 #49115

    Great comments, echoing all true gooners feelings. We'll probably end up in the Europa League next season and the tragic thing is that if Wenger is still in charge we'll have no chance of winning that either cos it won't be taken seriously. Anyone remember the team of the mid 80's, pre George Graham? Well this one is worse than that, at least that side had some bottle and wanted to win. This is a sad time for us.

  159. barloo

    Apr 08, 2014, 12:48 #49114

    Fantastic letter..Wenger will go ..he has too. However Kronke needs to go as well. He is not an Arsenal/football fan and never will be. If he is running the show will winning trophies ever come before profit margins and bonuses ? The club is stale from top to bottom. The Board and AKB's are deluded if they think any different!

  160. jeff wright

    Apr 08, 2014, 12:42 #49113

    The troll of many names is at it again going on about loyalty! A couple of seasons of Europa Cup mediocrity will soon show how many of these glory hunters who have jumped on the Wenger bandwagon are really loyal. I can recall standing on the North Bank a couple of seasons after the 71 double and the stadium was half empty where were all the loyal supporters when we needed them ? The answer is gone with the wind .The football was like it is now boring and stale ,even QPR were doing better. Anyone who thinks that every thing will just carry on as normal is an idiot ,if Wenger fails to get his usual 4th place finish then he is in big trouble,only the myth of Champions League football has kept him in his job for this last 9 seasons , and the glory hunters and tourists buying tickets to supplement those of the hard core genuine supporters . Many of whom have had enough of these embarrassing canings off top teams and who don't need the sanctimonious bleatings of Tom and Terry,Jack,Peter or whatever he chooses to call himself telliung them to go and support another club,who thev heck does this fool think that he is. He fanatically and blindly believes in Arsene and thinks that it's all down to dodgy refs as to why he keeps getting stuffed by younger managers ,and not because they have more tactical nous than he does. You couldn't make it up.

  161. Jack Romano

    Apr 08, 2014, 12:38 #49111

    Why didn´t you post this when the increase was announced?

  162. Jim Clench

    Apr 08, 2014, 12:38 #49110

    All the things you have said are correct. I will tell you now what will happen NOTHING.

  163. Arsene's biggest accolyte

    Apr 08, 2014, 12:26 #49109

    Ray is right everyone! More price increases coupled with less investment means more money in the bank which in turn means something else. I'm not quite yet what that something is but when I do, I will be back here with my Sultan of Strasbourg pendant and my Stan Kroenke hairstyle. I only care for the one and only true god. Arsene Wenger. Hoorah!

  164. Dicky

    Apr 08, 2014, 12:20 #49105

    Well said, Sir!

  165. Red Member

    Apr 08, 2014, 12:18 #49104

    Ray - you must like being ripped off because I don't call paying £80 to see us draw at home to City, United and Chelsea good value, likewise the limp performances in the other £40-£50 price bracket

  166. nilz21

    Apr 08, 2014, 12:15 #49103

    I regulary scroll through these blogs to find the PR monkies that are paid by Grazidis & Kroenke to paint a perfect picture of everything at arsenal on this blogs the awars goes to RAY. You will not silence the true fans, no matter how hard you try. That includes confiscating banners at the stadium of people who protest against wenger,kroneke and Grazidis. Those tricks may work in the state...but not in english football. Also David Dein & Usamanov chants will be getting louder and louder WITH banners...be prepared for a fight.

  167. Ray

    Apr 08, 2014, 12:04 #49102

    Funny how these articles only come up after a few Arsenal defeats. Arsenal prices are probably the best value in the Premiership and the club could easily raise them a lot more and still sell out, pathetic piece of writing. If your not happy, simple don't renew. There's plenty ready to take your place who would show a lot more loyalty.

  168. John A

    Apr 08, 2014, 11:33 #49100

    Knowing how sensitive players are,you wonder whether Wenger has told them that this is to be his last season. They now feel like a rudderless ship, particularly when we have no leaders on the pitch. I just can not understand what prevents investment in players come January each year. We have had several occasions in recent years when we could have kicked on both in the league and the Euro cup. Where is the financial argument in not doing that? The club seems to be simply resigned to failure as they can not compete financially. On that basis we wait until 2031 when the stadium is paid off before we invest further. Depressing thought.

  169. Fozzy's mate

    Apr 08, 2014, 11:27 #49098

    The king of spin MSS Gazidis slipped the 3% inflationary rise under the preverbial carpet during the glow when were top pre xmas, perfectly burying bad news. It was past off as in line with inflation, no mention of the huge increase in TV cash and commercial revenue or the not so small matter of £140 million cash at bank. A pointed out here we already pay the highest prices in europe. I also note that as a result of their expansion City will be offering a £299 season ticket. My answer to a refusal to spend cash is to say why not reduce the prices, which were raised sky high as we had to "compete in the transfer market".

  170. KC

    Apr 08, 2014, 11:17 #49096

    Great article, its refreshing to hear a supporter that attends games, pays the costs stating so correctly what so many real Arsenal fans feel.

  171. Arsene's biggest accolyte

    Apr 08, 2014, 10:56 #49094

    How dare thee complain of thy price increase! We should be honoured that we see the wonder that is the King of Alsace! Let us all connect our Apple tablets by bluetooth when we are at a game and message our support to the Lord of Strasbourg, let him know that we are honoured to pay over the odds as we will never see anyone of his ilk again. Like the black crows at the Tower, the club will crumble if our dear deity leaves. The very thought makes tears flow from my eye.

  172. Chris

    Apr 08, 2014, 10:47 #49093

    Great post! I feel it would be more powerful if you were to start a petition to get Wenger and the board to change their ways. And then post it as an article and spread it through Twitter. What do you think?

  173. Red Member

    Apr 08, 2014, 10:37 #49092

    if we end up in the Europa League next season then wouldn't a 3% decrease be more appropriate?

  174. Stuart

    Apr 08, 2014, 10:29 #49091

    They should pay us 3% of Wanger's salary for having to put up with him.

  175. Matthew Bazell

    Apr 08, 2014, 10:23 #49090

    Good article, but it needs the voice of 60,000 people, but so far that's not happened and that's the problem. What I find incredible is that too many people defend the ticket pricing structure and actually get defensive against those of us who campaign against it. I've been banging on about this since 2008 and have had to put up with idiots calling me anti Arsenal or negative. Who is it you think you're defending?! The same people who are screwing over Arsenal supporters, that's who

  176. Unchives

    Apr 08, 2014, 10:00 #49087

    Good piece, the majority of gooners would agree with all of your words. Lets hope Gazidis is reading. He has said at the AST meetings that he monitors the blogs.

  177. chris dee

    Apr 08, 2014, 9:58 #49086

    What a sad s**t state of affairs we have at the moment,the anger,bitterness and disillusionment are overshadowing a F A Cup semi final.That's how bad things have been allowed to fester over the last 3-4 years. Still,I managed to con a ticket for Wembley,but I fear the mood will turn poisonous if we don't win.Again, it says much for our current mood that not one Arsenal fan will be shocked if we don't win.But if we don't ,the manager has to resign within 24 hours,although I believe he will walk in the summer no matter what happens this season.

  178. Belmondo

    Apr 08, 2014, 9:35 #49085

    Good voice, man. Support from russiam community!

  179. TC

    Apr 08, 2014, 9:25 #49083

    Good post but I am now extremely nervous of whether we can win on Saturday let alone in the final. We have the look of a team that cannot win a game because their is zero confidence (although lots of bravado talk) and frankly I do not know where a goal is coming from as we are devoid of any ideas. I am going to be nervous walking up to the stadium on Saturday and a good part of me is getting ready to be embarrassed once again. Bloody sad.

  180. Chris Doyle

    Apr 08, 2014, 9:20 #49082

    FANTASTIC VOICE OF EVERY ARRSENAL FAN

  181. Christof

    Apr 08, 2014, 9:16 #49079

    If Wenger stated that this season was his final one and did it now - what would be the result? The arguments would be over; we'd all suddenly be pulling in the same direction. The eulogies could start and everyone would be desperate for him to be able to go out on a high with a slap on the back and thank you very much. However, I fear he'll soldier on like Brian Clough.