Funny Fair Play 2

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Funny Fair Play 2

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Following on my earlier blog on FFP or Funny Fair Play, I think that Paris St Germain and Manchester City will lose no sleep over the rumoured sanctions which are about to be revealed at the end of this week. A £50 million fine payable over three years is loose change down the back of the sofa for these owners, who could spend that in two hours in the city of London. The adjudication committee of the UEFA Club Financial Control Board have evidently devised a set of sanctions that will teach these clubs a lesson. Don't hold your breath though. So what are these crippling measures? First the clubs are only being allowed to name 21 players in the Champions League squad including 8 home grown players as opposed to 25. Really? Most clubs only use 20 to 23 players and so this is hardly a realistic sanction. Secondly the clubs might be asked to limit their debt to £25 million instead of the £35 million limit for 2014/5 as the overall deficit must fall. Thirdly and most fascinating is the suggestion that the clubs might have to limit their payroll at the current stratospheric levels. This means new high value signings will be limited as players must be sold before adding new recruits so as to not increase the wage bill. This sanction is perhaps the most interesting and if this manages to deter the clever lawyers, then perhaps UEFA may have unwittingly stumbled upon a way to curb the excesses of the oil rich tycoons.

For the first time in European Football economics, the possibility of a real salary cap is being mooted. Now it is important to understand the differences between this proposed salary cap and the salary cap that is used in sporting franchises in the USA. In the USA, the salary cap has a ceiling and a floor. That is, the gross revenues of the leagues are divided by the number of clubs and then the sum left is the total amount that can be spent on players. Clubs can spend a lot on one or two star talents which leaves average wages for the squad players but they cannot exceed the cap. Equally the smaller clubs must spend up to the cap. Essentially the system is run on behalf of the clubs’ profitability. For the wage bills of all clubs to rise, the league itself must maximise it's own profits. Now lets look at the Premier League which almost does the opposite. The league is debt driven. The Premier League product as it likes to be referred to, is a form of entertainment which people will spend money to see. The profits generated are divided up among the clubs, but not equitably. The biggest spenders tend to win the major prizes. However if this consumes all of the revenues then the accounts will show a debt. This season they are trying to address this by introducing a short term cost control measure. Essentially this places a ceiling on increases in total wages bills.

It is well known that the salary system in European leagues is player led. The player will play for the club that offers him the highest salary. Simples! So if the club ends up in debt, who cares? At worst just spend a little time in administration and the club can emerge Phoenix like from the ashes with just a points deduction. Unless the club had realistic ambitions to be above mid table, a consistent run should see most clubs avoid relegation. Sensible and prudent spending at a club would realise wage to turnover ratios of 60%, however the likes of Manchester City and others have wage to turnover ratios of well over 80% and in the Championship this figure rises to 90% according to Deloitte. This means that the Premier and Championship leagues are driven by managing debts not maximising profits. The system is maintained by people’s desire to watch this product on Television. Without broadcasting revenues, the entire pack of cards would collapse. Players' greed sees no bounds and with agents on the same gravy train, the bubble just grows and grows. Whilst broadcasters like BSkyB continue to raise the bid ceiling to £3 billion for the Premiership product, then there is no quick end in sight.

The system is also driven by the confidence that legally in a free trade area, any caps or wage restrictions can be argued to be a restraint of the right of players to work and trade, which is essentially illegal under European employment legislation. However, if you join a private club, you have to agree to be bound by those rules, and providing your human rights are not infringed, the private club could possibly make rules which run counter to EU employment law. So now perhaps there is a loophole to the restraint of trade defence. That loophole is legal precedent. If a case has resulted in a certain landmark outcome and that outcome has not been overturned by appeal then that outcome is the benchmark ruling for all future similar cases. The Bosman ruling was one such precedent which acted in players’ favour. The new UEFA sanctions on salary caps could now see the power shifting back to the clubs and the governing bodies of the league. If it can be made to stick, then the precedent of a salary cap on clubs like Manchester City and PSG will have at long last been established. If the clubs don't like it then they will have to forfeit their right to play Champions League football. Methinks though, the lawyers will decide the fate of football finances in the end as the devil is in the detail yet to be revealed. Funny Fair Play Part 3 anyone?

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  1. maguiresbridge gooner

    May 09, 2014, 12:40 #51070

    FPGooner, i concur with jjetplane, only i'd say for just having reached fourth place.

  2. Ozzie

    May 09, 2014, 5:53 #51049

    Cor, does anyone remember the days when we all talked about the game and the players? Now it's all finances, managers, bored egomaniacal billionaires, hierarchies & musical chair player movements. Goodnight!

  3. jjetplane

    May 08, 2014, 16:06 #51013

    FP GOONeR a truly magnificent summation of what is a very tidy hedge fund run from a PO box in the middle of The Great Plains. The nearly man - perfect! The mantra - could have bought him yes (repeat followed by breathing exercise) zip down zip up red tie grey jumper grey mind grey voice greying club receding into sushi construct with Dali clock end must try the haddock who scored flying off tomorrow bye Jasper the golf is great the horses are soaked the selfies are forever goodbye Kallstrom ve vill see you again ve don't know ven goodbye bleat bleat oink oink .... We'll have fun fun fun now that daddie took the dollars away.

  4. FPGooner

    May 08, 2014, 13:02 #50992

    'Passionless play thing for some rich owner'? Are we not exactly that? Who do you think is the major shareholder at the Emirates? some little old lady doing her knitting? But, our millionaire owner is far, far more interested in scooping the money rather than winning anything for the fans. So, you prefer having a millionaire owner who doesn't want to win anything? For an AKB to come on here and put forward his or her case is admirable. For someone to come on here to emphasise points that totally undermine their position strikes me as odd. Look at what City and Chelsea have become? Do you mean winning the Premier League among other honours? You next mention ticket prices. Take a guess which football club have the most expensive season tickets in the league. You also mentioned matchday tickets. Guess which club have the most expensive matchday tickets. Next, take a guess as to which set of clubs have the more satisfied fans, us or them? Lastly, this is not about the clubs, but who runs them and who manages them. We cannot compare ourselves to Chelsea or Citeh, they are clubs that have a strong desire to win things, we have fans who would sacrifice their first-born for just having reached the FA cup final. They aim much higher. We have a coach who really should be coaching a pub team somewhere in Eastern France. Far as I can recall, we let in 6 against both the clubs you mentioned. You are presumably happy with that and wish that to continue? Why? Do you not want us to do better? Do you not wince or cringe at the thrashings we get? Are you not even slightly disappointed in Wenger? Tactically? he is bankrupt. Strategy? he has none, we hobble from game to game. Excuses? He is pathetic. Referees, injuries, Fixtures, Accidents. Player transfers? Don't get me started. 'Oh, I nearly bought him and him and him'. We have the nearly man in charge. Nearly a coach.

  5. BADARSE

    May 08, 2014, 12:37 #50989

    Charlie, I wouldn't go as far as to say I would win the argument against ten downbeat Gooners but I would give it a go. I would employ the Arsenal spirit and never surrender and if I found myself wanting I'd try to defeat them with laughter or by teasing them. Guess we are talking personality, or lack of some characteristics. It's only having the resolve or refusal to give in and give up that keeps you putting one foot in front of the other sometimes, but as you say, some just throw in the towel. Some get into a negative spiral, many for having the correct reasoning powers, but a slightly skewed conclusion and the deliberation takes on a life of it's own. That is depression. Many depressives on this site my friend. 24601, Oink! Oink! Bring home the bacon pal.

  6. Charlie

    May 08, 2014, 11:45 #50979

    So true BADARSE it's very easy to follow the majority like most do on here and in life being a complaining bore seems far more trendy than a positive outlook. Put me in a room with ten downbeat gooners and I'll win an argument with the lot of them.

  7. FPGooner

    May 08, 2014, 11:27 #50978

    Good luck with the racing.

  8. Westlower

    May 08, 2014, 10:53 #50972

    @FPGooner, You are spot on. The away games against the big 3 defined our season. One win & a couple of draws and we're Champions, but reality shows we were found wanting on the big days. The league also shows we only lost one more game than the teams above us. The gap on the losing days appears enormous but over the whole season is less so. Obviously we have to improve but at least we can do it from a relatively strong position. Sorry to let you down on further time consuming research but I've got to fix my racing head on for the rest of the day. Chester beckons!

  9. BADARSE

    May 08, 2014, 10:39 #50969

    Charlie I like your pazazz, are you a holding midfielder by any chance. You do a good job of breaking up the play. Ironic thing is those griping on here that everything at Arsenal is too cosy and comfortable is exactly the environment this site gives them. They perhaps couldn't hack it if the poles were reversed and they found themselves in the minority. 'Charlie, on your left-he's your man!'

  10. Charlie

    May 08, 2014, 10:30 #50968

    For all you wobs who long for Arsenal to become some passionless play thing for some rich owner you only have to look at what City and Chelsea have become. City are top of the league yet their fans can't be bothered to turn up home or away and Chelsea struggle to sell 25,000 season tickets,don't think if your saviour Usmanov takes over that ticket prices will go down either. City were charging West Brom £54 for tickets compare that to mean old Arsenal who charge £25 for the same fixture and we're in the Capitol not some hard-up Northern town. Beware what you wish for Arsenal-Lite's.

  11. FPGooner

    May 08, 2014, 9:47 #50964

    Westlower, well done on all the painstaking research you provide to the site. Could you perhaps as your next researching project provide us with how well we have done against Manure, Citeh and Chelski, the three teams you mentioned initially, in the last 5 years?

  12. FPGooner

    May 08, 2014, 9:36 #50963

    Does all this do anything to dispel the widely held belief that we are flat track bullies, i.e scoring a hatful of goals against weaker teams while getting our arses kicked very very badly against the big boys in the more significant games?

  13. Westlower

    May 08, 2014, 9:07 #50961

    I'm probably stating the bl**ding obvious but to put some numbers on what it takes to be Champions, here are the goals for/against ratio of the title winners over the past 8 years. 05/06 Chelsea 3.3/1; 06/07 Man U 3/1; 07/08 Man U 3.6/1; 08/09 Man U 2.8/1; 09/10 Chelsea 3.2/1; 10/11 Man U 2.1/1;11/12 Man C 3.2/1; 12/13 Man U 2/1. What do the numbers prove? Any team getting anywhere near a 3 goal ratio are virtually assured of the title. The lowest winning ratio in this 8 year period were last years winners Man U @2/1. AFC have equaled or bettered that on 3 occasions without achieving any better than 3rd. Maybe it proves that although Man U 'walked' the title by 11 points they were flattered by their wide margin victory. This seasons ratio's read; Man C 2.7/1; Chelsea 2.6/1; Liverpool 2/1; AFC 1.6/1; Everton 1.5/1; TH 1.02/1; Man U 1.5/1. The current ratio's suggest that the title should have been fought out between Man C & Chelsea. Liverpool's 2/1 ratio would have been good enough last season. AFC'S GD ratio since 05/06 read: 2.2/1; 1.8/1; 2.4/1; 1.8/1; 2/1; 1.77/1; 1.5/1; 1.9/1; 1.6/1.

  14. Bard

    May 08, 2014, 8:40 #50960

    Good post Rocky. I think the problem with FFP is one of expectations. It was never going to alter the landscape dramatically but it might just rein in the big spenders a little. It's not going to affect us anyway because Wenger operates in a parallel universe when it comes to transfers and wages as we will find put once again this summer. He will start out telling us he's shopping at Harrods only to end up buying at a car boot sale on Romney Marshes.

  15. BADARSE

    May 08, 2014, 6:25 #50958

    The establishment-or accepted order of things always dominates. This is the power base and the advantage is used to maintain the status quo. Yet change occurs. It's what most bleat about on here, they have failed to see, accept or understand that change. FFP may prove to be a hollow effect on football, then again I think it may just shift the direction by a few degrees. We are entering another slight but real evolutionary redirection of football. Am remaining optimistic without outlandish expectations-as I am with the cup final. Oh and Freddie's Armani Pants, you just need to mature a little, it's not your fault that you are a little childish, that too is an evolutionary thing. I am optimistic of this development too.

  16. Black Hei

    May 08, 2014, 6:06 #50957

    I am under the impression that the FFP sanctions are not that easy. 21 man rule basically means, 2 guys for each position with no backup GK. But add the 8 home grown rule and a team like City is in trouble. They have 16 foreign regulars. Who is going to get the axe? It throws transfer plans in limbo too as they now can't sign any new foreigners since they are already over stocked. I think Javi Garcia is up for grabs. Wenger take note.

  17. El Bodgeo

    May 07, 2014, 22:19 #50951

    Charlie, that's coz George bought the first one for him!

  18. David the Price is Ian Wright Wright right!

    May 07, 2014, 22:01 #50950

    Wenger goes public on Hazard transfer: The Arsenal boss told BeIN Sports: "Yes, I wanted to take him, I had his agent at my home but again the barrier was financial and Chelsea made an effort that I couldn't make. This translates as:- I will not exceed under any circumstances a value of any player. Even at the cost of potential success. Chelsea is now riddled with players gained from the above scenario. The trophies they won show value for money. Is this Wenger's barmy economics? Or Inspector Clueless? How about BOTH!!

  19. AKB

    May 07, 2014, 19:32 #50947

    Arsene Knows B*l*o*kS! Muttley laugh : hee hee hee......

  20. Kallstrom

    May 07, 2014, 19:06 #50945

    There are so many Muscovites in this crazy city. Oliver take me to crazy bars and flats with swimming underground. I don't want to go back Mr Wenger! Please let me stay for two years and I promise to take care of my back. Oliver - you have to watch your back too. Crazy Russian girls. I love London. Like the t-shirt Whoooop 'she wear yellow ribbon yeah...'

  21. Wenger walked on concrete (now we're ****ing SCHTUCK)

    May 07, 2014, 18:52 #50944

    Handbrakes, no-handshakes, sore loser, bad loser, seldom winner, Källström, maelström, winds of change; no chance, no change, bottle kicker, no fly zipper, red tie, puffer jacket, Steve Bould looks unhappy, u always said I will stay, now for that you pay!

  22. Charlie

    May 07, 2014, 18:47 #50942

    Wenger is still the only manager ever to win the English Premiership (3 times)without buying it. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. You can hear a pin drop and plenty of wob chins crashing to the floor.

  23. EAST UPPER

    May 07, 2014, 18:31 #50941

    FFP, Loanees, Zonal marking, Tippy Takka, p*** taker, Micro-fractures, Handbrakes, tikka tappy, it was difficult, commitment, spirit, I want to do well for my club, yes, BS, Almunia, Blunderos, Stepanovs, Cyborg, Silvestre, Wengerist, Wengerisms. What a man!? Wenger aus!!!

  24. Stevieo

    May 07, 2014, 18:23 #50940

    Look, FFP has served its purpose. It's given Wenger a good 4 years of slack as the AKB lapped this nonsense up, even creating their own spin of how Wenger would clean up all the trophies when it actually came in to play. As with waiting for Project Youth to fruition, FFP has also now been confined to the bin. Let's move on. We have gone full circle and are back to blaming injuries and referees for Wenger's malaise. Add in to the mix, TV scheduling and a World Cup year making it impossible to sign any players, I reckon you'll have enough excuses to carry Wenger for his next 2 years.

  25. Charlie

    May 07, 2014, 17:40 #50939

    Green Hut, Not the old infrastructure costing, does that include swamp duty and sundry expenses..

  26. Green Hut

    May 07, 2014, 17:38 #50938

    Charlie- Could you please tell me the difference in spend between the top two and the rest in your table? Because I've seen a similar table from 2003 onwards and it shows that Man City/Chelsea have each spent £300m more than Liverpool during that time, yet this season Liverpool have pushed City to the wire and will probably finish above Chelsea. We were told this was impossible for managers like Rodgers and Wenger. But seeing as you're so keen on tables, do you have one showing wage spend over the last few years? I think we rate rather higher there and even our friend Amos has conceded how important wage spend is relative to on-field performance. Anyway, it's more about the money that Wenger HASN'T spent, but if you don't know what I'm talking about ask your Dad Westlower.

  27. Green Hut

    May 07, 2014, 16:59 #50937

    slowey- If you have checked properly you will be aware that a large chunk of Liverpool's overspend has been due to infrastructure costs which, if the principles of FFP are upheld, will be exempt from any future calculation.

  28. Charlie

    May 07, 2014, 16:00 #50935

    Green Nut, Your post has just proved what an absolute genius Wenger is with the eleventh highest net spend in the Premiership over the last 15 years behind serial underachievers 1.Chelsea 2.Man City 3.LIVERPOOL 4.Man Utd 5.Tiny Totts and 6.Aston Villa. Shame you'll fallen for the Victim media hype but you have proven that it takes a special manager to achieve top four status, good post sir.

  29. Yawn

    May 07, 2014, 15:43 #50934

    Bla bla bla FFP etc. It wouldn't matter if Citeh, Chelski and ManYoo were liquidated tomorrow, as with a Loser like Wenger in charge Arsenal can hope for no better than 4th. As usual, Arsenal fans (and I am one) have nothing better to discuss when it comes to Football, so let's chat nonsense about balance sheets instead hmm?

  30. jeff wright

    May 07, 2014, 14:38 #50933

    Platini would be better served looking at other issues rather than trying to pretend to be implementing his worthless FFP. Rip off ticket prices in the Premier League would be a good place to start at along with the way the TV money is carved up between the two big Spanish clubs in la liga. He could also make some effort to try and stop the racist attacks on black players in that league. With only a couple of years though left of his tenure at UEFA it's most likely that he will do nothing meaningful about anything and when he fades away so will the last vestiges of his so called fair play rules. They should be renamed,big clubs rule.

  31. Matthew Bazell

    May 07, 2014, 14:20 #50930

    Two billionaires at Arsenal, only one at City! Kroenke Out!

  32. Man United Killer

    May 07, 2014, 13:56 #50929

    Wenger: "we nearly signed Hazard" Wenger: "we nearly signed Drogba" Wenger: "we nearly signed C Ronaldo" Wenger: "we nearly signed Essien" blah blah blah

  33. slowey

    May 07, 2014, 13:40 #50927

    Post 54008 by Green Hat Sorry to disillusion you but, you have fallen for the myth of Liverpool doing it all on home grown talent and canny buys. If you care to check, Liverpool would not have passed FFP this season due to their overspend of £173 million.

  34. Slowey

    May 07, 2014, 13:17 #50925

    One little comment in your post is, for me, at the heart of FFP - "So if the club ends up in debt,". Man U are in debt Man City are anything but, who or what are City being protected from? As for a salary cap, if its the same across the whole world, I don't see anyone (other than players or agent) arguing with it. Can Waldorf and Statler (Blatter and Platini) fix that?

  35. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    May 07, 2014, 12:54 #50921

    If FFP is linked to revenue, then to me the most obvious way around it is in (1) sponsorship, preferably by an associated company and (2) selling fringe players for extortionate fees to other clubs, also somehow linked with the parent company. Many firms do such transactions already - intercompany trading. Even better when you don't pay Corporation Tax on the profits made in the originating country too.

  36. Ron

    May 07, 2014, 12:44 #50919

    Rocky - I know ziltch of this FFP stuff. I think id lose the will to live trying to understand its vagaries to be honest mate. Its looks to me though thats it a recipe for long running legal cases. The Clubs will broker deals while it suits. UEFA will get to like it and then take the proverbial and then the Clubs like City and Real will eventually have enough and challenge it via the Courts. This in turn will spawn loads of satellite litigation between UEFA and the players. FFP has the hallmark for a litigation bonanza for the European and sports lawyers.

  37. Green Hut

    May 07, 2014, 12:41 #50918

    Unsurprising bad news- The Bosman lawyer has already submitted a legal challenge to FFP with the European Commission. Unsurprising good news- Liverpool and Atletico have proven this season that you don't need to spend £1bn to compete at the highest level to the very last week of the season. It all depends on the manager.

  38. WENGER OUT

    May 07, 2014, 12:32 #50917

    A weak stance from UEFA only designed to line their pockets. I don't think that UEFA have any real desire to reduce football wages. Astronomical football players wages increase the wages for non playing or governing body staff by proxy. It's like the IT guy at a bank will not necessarily be doing a more difficult job than the IT guy in any other office environment, but you can bet your bottom dollar he will be paid more - What's £60k a year when you're paying more than that in low level banker bonuses? Quite a lot to the IT guy at the supermarket chain who's making £40k. They're all in bed together and UEFA are only interested in protecting their reputation and their revenue streams - I bet they wish they'd never come up with the idea now!