A Gentle Cup Final Warm Up

Online Editorial: Away win at Norwich to conclude League campaign



A Gentle Cup Final Warm Up


If you needed a visiting team to score a hatful of goals against, Arsenal 2013/14 would make a pretty good choice. However, the 17 goals Norwich needed were a little too much of a stretch, so this was an end of season kickabout which neither side treated with much intensity. The fact that a total of 11 fouls were committed over the 90 minutes kind of says it all. The most dramatic aspect of the afternoon proved to be the weather, which seemed to see all four seasons make an appearance to sign off the campaign.

Still the nature of proceedings suited Arsenal just fine. A light runout ahead of next weekend’s cup final will have done the players no harm, especially the likes of Aaron Ramsey who has not played too many matches since his return from injury. The choice of Lukasz Fabianski in goal was one to debate. Was it perhaps a farewell appearance in a meaningless end of season league commitment or preparation for next weekend? My suspicion is the former, and that Szczesny will start at Wembley. The outfield players that did appear were a mix of back up options and others that would benefit from playing time, although it was still a relatively strong line-up, indicating that in some respects, there is strength in depth for the manager to select from.

It was a surprise to see, for example, Olivier Giroud start, and there was an argument for wrapping the likes of Ramsey and Ozil in cotton wool. But as everyone seemed to come through unscathed, no cause for regret.

Although Aaron Ramsey ended up having a decent match, his early passing was somewhat awry, a reminder of the months after his return from injury when he struggled to convince that he would become a key man in the club’s future, as is now the case. However, some chances were fashioned with Podolski and Giroud both having opportunities to score before the interval.

The second half saw Arsenal score twice, the first a peach of a volley from Ramsey and the second Carl Jenkinson’s debut goal for the club after the ball ran loose to him in the area. Norwich did get forward, but their finishing was generally poor, symbolizing their problems in front of goal all season that has led to their demotion to the Championship. At least towards the end of the game, they gave Fabianski a minor workout when they finally got their act together.

It was encouraging to see Wilshere and Diaby come on, and the appearance of the latter gave the away support plenty of opportunities to concoct some witty ditties, including ‘Diaby: He plays when he wants’. There are signs he may become a cult figure as a successor to Eboue, which in a way is an indication of the joke he has become.

Chants of ‘There’s only one Arsene Wenger’ rang out a couple of times in the second half. And no-one could dispute that. Love him or hate him, he is assuredly unique. On paper, Arsenal have had a better season than 2012/13, although the achievement of fourth place this year was not celebrated in contrast to the scenes of 12 months ago. And the reason is because this time around, Arsenal fell away from first place, whereas a year ago, they rose from below the top four. Football is about hope. When there is no chance of first place, falling well short of it does not hurt so much. But to have been in the position Arsenal were at the beginning of February has led to severe disappointment, not least because of the nature of the team’s capitulation in the matches that derailed their challenge. Liverpool may have also imploded at the key moment, but at least they were not humiliated. Ultimately, they lost the title due to Gerrard’s slip v Chelsea, a consequence of which was the desperation to score a hatful at Selhurst Park that proved led to two dropped points.

Arsenal though, have an opportunity to end the season with cause for celebration by securing the club’s first trophy since 2005. It is important that they win not only to get the no silverware monkey off the back, but to the provide a psychological platform from which they can build on next season. Key purchases in the summer need to be made in the centre forward, defensive midfield and right back positions without any question – of course assuming everyone one accepts that Mikel Arteta is not up to his job as first choice any longer. If Thomas Vermaelen departs, two decent options at centre back are required as Bacary Sagna, who played in the position more than once this season, was the alterative back up to the club captain.

So it has to be a busy summer, and one in which genuine quality is recruited. It looks certain that Arsene Wenger is going to hang around for another couple of seasons, although the faint hope that Monaco’s millions might tempt him lingers. Assuming he does, then the gameplan against the better teams has to change. There is no point trying to give the likes of Chelsea and Liverpool a football lesson on their own turf, and a few relatively pallid home performances against the likes of Chelsea and Manchester United demonstrate Arsenal are well capable of playing that way if instructed so by the manager. It’s a matter of adapting your game to the conditions required, and having enough options to cope with the number of injuries that a Wenger team seems to inevitably suffer.

One other thing we could do without is the clutching of straws next season. Winners of the stamina league? Please. In fact by definition, the team with the best stamina would be Manchester City. Arsenal being top of the tree for a few months was, it proved, a quirk of the fixture list, as one away win in the sequence of six away trips that started with Southampton and ended at Goodison Park proved. The piling up of points against lesser teams was laudable, but as a foundation to a title challenge, proved to be like quicksand. Even in the away win at the Lane, the Gunners played poorly, but were fortunate.

Whether winning the FA Cup will have any impact on Arsenal’s displays against the top teams next season remains to be seen. Perhaps of more importance will be the acquisition of the right type of players in the next 15 weeks (and ideally, the sooner the better). There’s plenty of time, and a heap of cash waiting to ensure that happens. What could possibly go wrong?

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  1. Hari Kari

    May 14, 2014, 16:47 #51404

    Here! Where's me sheepskin!?

  2. julesd

    May 14, 2014, 10:03 #51368

    Ron - Oh dear that's a common misspelling of the japanese word for ritual suicide, Hara Kiri is what you mean I presume, maybe I should go and find that hockey team and leave you to your writings!!

  3. Ron

    May 13, 2014, 15:19 #51339

    julesd. 54407. Nice and quaint that post. I starting to believe that you really are Westies femme owner more and more. Still slightly dubious mind you!However, i digress. The messages on here are just additives to people 'getting behind their team'. Some of us have done it for decades and do so, with whatever reservations we have. You have none, those like me have lots. Its fine. Dont be so feline and po faced about your position. It doesn't suit you. Lots of coaches arrange to sign players before contracts are signed. Wenger for one, PV, Remi Garde to name but 2, most awaiting Madrid coaches do, so why not a Manure boss in waiting?. Bit naive there. Surely there's a hockey team near you lass or a swimming club to get all womanly about? As for the beer, its kept us 'away' fans sane for about 7 years, staving off hari kari after many of Wengers bottle jobs we ve experienced!

  4. Bard

    May 13, 2014, 15:00 #51338

    Westie I always support the team and will do so on Saturday. If they can't beat Hull they need sacking. My criticism is of the manager and the board. I'm afraid we will have to agree to disagree on that subject.

  5. Ron

    May 13, 2014, 14:40 #51335

    If its right the spuds have sacked Sherwood, theyve maybe slipped up again. He l make a good coach i think. He stands no sh--e, speaks honestly and doesn't brook any c--ts who reside up their own backsides and seems to motivate well. Hes done well at Tottenham working with the garbage Vilas Boas left him with. Be great for WBA i reckon, a club with sound fans, honest and reasonable ambition, expectation and tradition.Essentially, all component parts Tottenham don't have. I d like to see him do well if hes leaving the swamp.Its a bonus for his career getting the hell out of that rotten hole and the area.

  6. jjetplane

    May 13, 2014, 14:36 #51334

    Now Leicester City are bigging it up with 180m spend and top 5 consolidation within 3 years. 7/8 teams into 5 places is ahhh Mr Wenger - got the calculator there? Thats it for today's soccer tremors sportsfans ....

  7. Ron

    May 13, 2014, 14:12 #51332

    Westie - All bosses kicked out the booze culture then, not just him. Arsenal just had higher profile p--s artists, that's all. Where's the 'courage' in saying to your staff : 'Hi this is me, the old has gone, i'm the present and if you drink and it affects your work you re out"? Bosses and business owners do it routinely. Good grief man, it must be nice in that naive world you seem to inhabit. Its a myth equivalent to the equally tedious and oft trotted out ' hes built a stadium'.

  8. Double Agent Levy

    May 13, 2014, 14:09 #51330

    You should see the useless bar-stool I have lined up to take over from Tim HahahahahaLoooooooooooooooolsmhhhhh.Oh no I'm revealing my true identity MAR---.

  9. Ron

    May 13, 2014, 13:59 #51329

    Westie - Romp in the park? I've not seen or hear anybody forecast that? Its Arsenal, its a big game. There's pressure. When did they last 'romp' in a big game? The only Arsenal related romp there might be is likely to be Giroud laying his tart up some side road adjacent to Wembley.

  10. Charlie

    May 13, 2014, 13:47 #51327

    I see the classless ones have sacked another manager that's fifteen since Wenger arrived and out of all those managers they've won two league cups and one of them was won by GG what a steaming useless pile of pooh they are. It must be time soon for another spud baiting thread.

  11. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    May 13, 2014, 13:15 #51326

    The 1927 final was lost because of a bizarre goalkeeping error. The 1932 final was lost because of the "over the line" goal. In 1978 we lost to the better team on the day. In 1980 the team had played a game too far just as they would do against Valencia 5 days later. It can be argued then that in 3 of the 4 finals lady luck waved her fickle finger in the opposite direction. We didn't play particularly well in any of the 1998, 2002 or 2003 finals but well enough. In 2001 we played very well and lost as a result of terrible refereering (no red card for Henchoz) and were done like kippers chasing a winning goal instead of hanging on for extra time.

  12. Westlower

    May 13, 2014, 11:25 #51319

    @Handbrake, Thanks for spotting my omission of 1932. At least it broke the chain of 0-1 defeats. Who did Gooners blame for these defeats before AW? @Guy in Jersey, It took courage to kick out the drinking culture when AW first arrived in UK. @Bard, "when we've won the cup". Surely not one of those rare moments when you believe in your team?

  13. Guy in Jersey

    May 13, 2014, 11:03 #51317

    Any Old Iron - Post No. 54413 - "Be careful what you wish for....nah tosh. Stop being feeble and get some backbone will ya, hiding behind Wenger for ever is cowardice." You are spot on mate. It takes courage to change, but sometimes you have to grasp the nettle. It's been obvious for years that Wenger is resistant to change, so the only way to move forward is without him.

  14. FPGooner

    May 13, 2014, 10:46 #51316

    I am in disbelief that despite all the b*llS**t that Wenger has come out with, he is held in high esteem by some. Apparently, we won the stamina league. Forgive me, but stamina indicates endurance and the ability to last until the end, not capitulate and fall like a drunken sailor before the finish. Wenger is a shameless harridan, who knows that he will never get challenged on anything by the media machine. Journalists seem guilty of picking on someone who looks like a pensioner on the cusp of dementia and avoid asking him pertinent questions regarding the dross he purchases when he does eventually purchase or the demise of this great club or why all the teams he puts out have the stiff backbone of Mr. Jelly etc. Every year for the last umpteen years, there have been 'reasons to celebrate' because we have either accumulated more points than any Arsenal team since 1066 or scored more goals than any Arsenal team than since 1914 etc, etc, you get the picture. Last year, it was our strong finish. Apparently, we ended the season like a thoroughbred. So, which end of the horse have we finished as, this year? In 2008 when we finished 4 points behind the champions, the following year finished 18 points behind. It is lunacy to say that we have really improved by pointing to the 7 points difference. We really are a world away. In December, Wenger's apologists were out in force suggesting it was heresy to suggest we were not going to win it and should be enjoying being top. The apologists just wanted to bury their heads in the sand when asked about whether we had met our usual whipping masters in the form of Citeh, Chelski and Manure. Little did I realise that we were capable of going to Anfield and getting thrashed to an inch of our lives there too. Last points are in response to julesd - Post No. 54407. Well run clubs hungry for success gather the players required to do so, at the earliest opportunity. Talks between clubs occur before the season ends and is then legally signed as soon as the window opens. This has happened every summer, it is not a new phenomenon. As for Manure not having a manager. A club such as Manure are a huge operation with a board that can call on the services of one or two very successful footballing talents (Bobby Charlton, Fergie et). The club do not pull the shutters up. They will be there long after the new manager has come and gone and in his notional absence, business still continues. 'Getting behind the team' is a hackneyed and senseless phrase. Supporting AFC and supporting Arsene are not the same. Do try to understand that. The rest of the post is just drivel. Not sure if I can do a better job than Arsene, but I know plenty of coaches who can. This is without working half a day in football.

  15. Bard

    May 13, 2014, 10:46 #51315

    East Upper: you didn't have to wait too long. I find the loyalty argument posted by dear juled quaintly amusing. It reminds me of one of those monty python sketches. Funny but completely absurd, complete with beer drinking thrown in for good measure. I'm sure they' ll all be back on Monday when we've won the cup.

  16. chris dee

    May 13, 2014, 10:22 #51314

    Shameful calling Diaby a joke. He was a talented teenager heading for a big career but he was another Arsenal player who's progress and body have never quite recovered (Eduardo lost a yard of pace ,Ramsey two and half years to recover but still gets niggling injuries) by having his ankle smashed to pieces by 'they don't like it up em' tactics by another British manager. The only thing shameful is your comment.

  17. jjetplane

    May 13, 2014, 10:03 #51313

    Arsenal have become the most disconnected club in the PL. No attention paid to the 'risky' business of buying competitive players (Kallstrom, Sanogo ... ). No attention paid to opponents. There are no opponents in Wengerworld and the only abstract addressed is the 'notion of spirit and mental strenght'. Thia is the kind of cod philosophy beloved of both the americans and the French. Now join up the bits and voila! Arsenal becomes 'dianetical' and the free market rhetoric of all proceeds go upstairs to the boys becomes immovable culture. There is no change in a neo-conservative environ. Ask the Telegraph. Ask Ramsey!

  18. HANDBRAKE

    May 13, 2014, 9:50 #51312

    A bust of Wenger...mmmm free standing. No Fouling or Graffiti. " Muttley stop that now, not there on uncle Arsene!" Muttley:- " hee hee hee...."

  19. Charlie

    May 13, 2014, 9:40 #51311

    MARCUS. Are you saying Wenger should have a huge BUST of him put up outside the Emirates that would be cool, we don't really have many of them do we. Also reading through some of your posts you appear a little peeved by something.

  20. HANDBRAKE

    May 13, 2014, 9:33 #51310

    Westlower - You forgot 1932 - Newcastle 2-1 Arsenal...

  21. Any Old Iron

    May 13, 2014, 9:21 #51309

    As was said recently Wenger is now viewed, even slightly revered as the elder statesman of managers in England. I also think his academic and linguistic capabilities certainly afford him a cushy ride from interviewers. Perhaps the question/s, would be:- " Arsene, why on earth did you not enter the market, or, even feel it necessary to enter the market ( Sanogo & Källström excepted) to add one or two key players to at least attempt at bolstering your team which looked at that time to be creaking at the seams somewhat." Key injuries were in evidence, and most managers would've used football orthodoxy and gone like for like as closely as possible. The pattern would've been as near as before. If it failed then at least as a manager you tried. But had it of succeeded it would've been lauded. This was a real possibility given the interchangeable nature of this season. Instead, the side was deployed in accordance, and affordance to the available pool which still suffered the odd setback in injuries. No, Wenger added two players; I shan't go on about these as we all know these brought nought to the table. Indeed, other teams suffered injuries & setbacks. So what can we deduce then: Fate, bad-luck, misfortune; bad management. Is it Wenger's inertia, lack of alarm that gets peoples backs up. Fergie in his old age knew how to win a last title; IT COST THE COURAGE OF HIS CONVICTIONS, money! Indeed Pellegrini is no yearling either. Look, the Fa cup would be great this season, as Arsenal have lost the last 3 finals so this has to count. Wenger though could've done a whole lot more to swing it our way. He does things at a premium because it's his nature to measure everything and not be expansive, or expensive. Except for his salary of course. His style of football is also not geared at lasting the pace. Trying to wipe the floor with everybody leads to exposing your teams own frailties. As it has spectacularly against more wily opponents that Wenger cannot get the better, or measure of. It probably in all reality contributes to Arsenal's constant injuries. Wenger will not do anything above minimum to get Arsenal to the promised land. He has correctly calculated with astonishing accuracy what it takes to get Arsenal in the money, but not the honey! Barring home draws, and rub of the green - which yes we don't always get, and do deserve to get like any team, an Fa cup would also of eluded us. But the Fa cup is increasingly a springboard for more ambitions. Chelsea, Man ***ty, have appeared in many finals and got stronger. But your winners have also come from your lesser lights in increasing numbers - more regularly than the past which tells you big teams win, or attempt to win the big prizes. Did Arsenal attempt to win big? In Europe Arsene can't get us out of a group top to avoid the big boys and then see how we go. He fudges it even when we're leading the group after 3 games. We come back to squad strength then don't we? I must mention playing Sanogo v Bayern says it all about Europe. As for the EPL- Wenger's been trying to win it on the cheap for years. The bad news is he's failed, and will continue to. Those are valid and ample reasons why Arsenal people have had enough of him and want a change. Be careful what you wish for....nah tosh. Stop being feeble and get some backbone will ya, hiding behind Wanger for ever is cowardice.

  22. Westlower

    May 13, 2014, 9:00 #51308

    AFC Cup Finals pre - Wenger: 1927 0-1 v Cardiff; 1930 2-0 v Huddersfield; 1936 1-0 Sheffield United; 1950 2-0 v Liverpool; 1952 0-1 v Newcastle U; 1971 0-0 (2-1 aet) v Liverpool; 1972 0-1 v Leeds; 1978 0-1 v Ipswich; 1979 3-2 v Man U; 1980 0-1 v West Ham; 1993 1-1, Replay 1-1 (2-1 aet)v Sheffield Wednesday. Strange how every defeat was by the same score 0-1.

  23. Westlower

    May 13, 2014, 8:28 #51307

    FA Cup trivia: None of the past 9 Cup Finals has been won by a margin greater than 1 goal. FC last FA Cup win came after a 0-0 draw. Wimbledon, Coventry & Ipswich were all triumphant first-time finalists. 18 of the last 20 finals had 3 or less goals scored. 14 of last 20 had 2 goals or less. In AFC's 10 FA Cup wins only once did they score more than 2 goals in 90 minuts (3-2 v Man U,1979). Those of you expecting a romp in the park come Saturday evening had better think again.

  24. Torbay gooner

    May 13, 2014, 7:48 #51306

    Let's hope we can play with some zip on Saturday and not only win, but win well. Our league performances overall have been pretty dull and I am struggling to remember more than a couple of games where we were outstanding. We only scored more than three goals on two occasions and they of course were against teams at the bottom. Having tortoises like Arteta and Giroud in the team does not assist with fast free flowing football strangely enough!

  25. Ozzie

    May 13, 2014, 6:47 #51305

    I don't know who is the most tediously repetitious to listen to, the Sky commentators or Wenger. One of the commentators doesn't have any emotion in his voice, just flat monotone. Shame to see Sagna go, will be hard to replace. Rather see Wenger go.

  26. julesd

    May 13, 2014, 6:02 #51304

    Some of you need to start being sensible on this site, surely you don't believe Chelsea or MU have bought anyone yet, MU haven't even got a manager yet, why buy someone he doesn't want, think before opening orifice, it's all just newspaper talk, although that's a tenuous link. Get behind your team, if indeed Arsenal is your team, I very much doubt if any of you could do better than Arsene but I suppose drinking lots of beer makes you brave! What colour was the ribbon she wore?

  27. DW Thomas

    May 13, 2014, 3:23 #51303

    Just listened to the Sky interview with Arsene. Wow! He seems sincere, but with a wink in his eye. He gets this grin every once in a while in the interview and does blame the injuries for faltering in big games and key times in the season. What I kept thinking as I watched is he needs someone with power to question his decisions. Someone with the power and knowledge to say enough Arsene, we need to change some things, big time! He just oozes too much power/control in the interview. A man who sees himself above all, all criticism and blames certain things for the lack of top success. Listening I must say I felt some respect for him trying to do it his way. Many things he said make a lot of sense. Yet at the end of the season, we still failed when it was there for the taking. The pieces are still missing. We need someone new to fill them, someone to try at least and freshen up the club. Grit and mettle, as we have said for years now.

  28. KC

    May 13, 2014, 0:08 #51302

    Marcus I get your frustration and Wenger does often talk crap re the signing of players. Can't disagree with your comments. His term top top quality is insulting to fans when he you see him snap up Flamini and Kallstrom.

  29. KC

    May 12, 2014, 23:58 #51301

    Very good article which I mostly agree with. Re Diaby it's more a shame than a joke could have been a real top player very sad actually. The injuries to Walcott and RAmsey no doubt hurt us but but the bottom line is that we are still missing something from our game especially away at good opposition defensively and our injuries would not have stopped the hammerings had they been fit. We are short and right now the table does not lie we require quality additions just hope Wenger understands our income is meant to used to improve the squad.

  30. johnnyh

    May 12, 2014, 23:09 #51300

    a comfortable win and oh so typical of arsenal when there is no pressure on the game. another groundhog season. let us hope we can get this french idiot and the clubs useless medical staff out the door.

  31. Charlie

    May 12, 2014, 22:58 #51298

    MARCUS.Are you saying that you would like Wenger to stay or go I cannot decide whether you are a fan of his or not.

  32. maguiresbridge gooner

    May 12, 2014, 22:47 #51297

    WENGER MUST GO (MARCUS), maybe he does own the club it would explain a lot, have him and stan ever been pictured in the same room? have we ever seen stan standing? is he short tall or skinny? is he really from America? or France, have we ever heard him speak? maybe that's why he never gives interviews, or attends games because he's already here in the dugout, their hair styles are similar, OGL's greyer yes but nothing a bit of greation 2000 wouldn't sort and a bit of make up with one of those stick on tashes, maybe he wears a syrup also, only a greyer one to fool us, have we ever seen him brushing or combing his hair? rather than just rubbing his hand along the fringe? maybe that's why we never see bouldy hugging him, and when he puts his head down during a match he always keeps two hands on it especially if it's windy. Yes it would explain why he treats the club like he owns it.

  33. jeff wright

    May 12, 2014, 22:43 #51296

    lee arsene fc, I'm not an old age pensioner but thanks for pointing out this outrage doves cry.

  34. Lickle Lee

    May 12, 2014, 22:40 #51295

    I'll have me lemonade out here dad.

  35. lee afc

    May 12, 2014, 22:19 #51293

    HEY JEFF WRIGHT.......now I know why you are the sour faced, stubborn, hate filled gooner that you are......check out page 48 of this months Gooner (issue 243) ''arsenal overcharge senior citizens by millions'' you OAP gooners genuinely are getting a raw deal.......for the record....this isn't Mr Wengers fault..

  36. Bard

    May 12, 2014, 22:19 #51292

    Cheers Ron I always underestimate the great man. I was wrong Chelsea have already done a deal for Costa £32m I believe £10m less than we paid for Ozil and we couldn't find a striker last summer. But you're right we are working so far behind the scenes that no one can see us not even the players we are trying to buy. But then again no one is buying before the end of the world cup apart from Liverpool, Chelsea and Man U. Man Citeh are scuppered by the FFP and can only afford our players.Over to Westie for the odds on Sagna joining Cteh.

  37. GoonerRon

    May 12, 2014, 22:15 #51291

    Wow, such positivity on here, and full of constructive comments on the eve of an FA Cup final too - it makes me feel all warm inside.

  38. Jumpin' Jack

    May 12, 2014, 22:05 #51290

    Arsene is the man to take us forward! What a buzz - Brazzzzil! Selfies on that beach and that who is she Oliver - yeah that Ipanena bird in de merry month ... Brazil me and the Ox Saggs is going Citeh yeh man No one come in for me yet - brazzzil that is the place that big river Oliver nah not Ipanena you know Oliver man him and Kalls mentooool! Follow me yet me and the Ox booom!

  39. Chris

    May 12, 2014, 21:45 #51289

    Jeff - It's not hard to imagine that with Ramsey we could have won against Stoke, Man U and Swansea. That's 7 more points right there. Only needs one more.... Open your mind, Jeff, the world doesn't conform to your preconceived specifications....

  40. N4

    May 12, 2014, 21:40 #51288

    Please tell me that it wasn't all the AKBs out yesterday in Norwich...and that I wasn't the only one throwing up badly when I heard the AKBs singing there's only 1...AW...! ...see I can't even write it properly...!!! @Wombledin...mate I feel you...!!!

  41. WENGER MUST GO ASAP(MARCUS). HES A BUST

    May 12, 2014, 21:26 #51287

    The arrogance of wenger KNOWS NO LIMITS. The man is sooooo arrogant it is shocking. Did anyone watch the interview he had we sky the extended version. Well what I can say. The contempt he has for the fans is visible and anyone who dear questions the mans philosophy is seen with such annoyance. The man believes he has a God given right to manage arsenal until he dies. It beggars believe to who really owns this club anymore. The interview made me want to smash my telly up. The man is just so annoying. He also has to nasty contemptuous pompous side about him, especially if he questioned on hes tactics and the usual arsenal collapse. He brings up stuff like "I WONT LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE MANAGED ZERO GAMES" that was in reply to Paul Scholes mind you the man has won 13 pl titles so i guess he knows what hes talking about SLIGHTLY LOL. I just dont trust this man to go and but the necessary players we need i certain positions. We desperately need two strikers one at least better than Giroud and one who has potential i.e the french kid who plays for Real solidedad and That world class striker I would buy would be Benzema. Again knowing the fool we have I doubt he will buy any of those guys. He will be looking in the french second division market to buy another crock smh. We also need a defensive mid. A mobile one and one that is physically strong i.e anything other than Arteta lool. We also need a CB and I fear a RB now as Sanga is going to leave which should tell you all you need to know about this club. No ambition and utter contempt for anyone that dear challenges the hierarchy. Now why would you not just offer the man the money he wants?? This man has been a loyal servant for this club and been one of the best rbs in the country. I just dont get it. Watch when he goes to man city. THIS CLUB IS A TOTAL JOKE!!!. He will come out with the same excuses of we " WANT TOP,TOP QUALITY" is SANOGO TOP, TOP QUALITY??? This man and the board our taking us for mugs. It gets to me soo much because alot of deluded akbs still defend this regime smh. Is Flamini top,top quality??? the answer is no. The only reason we bought Ozil is because we lost to Aston Villa lool. The man looked scared as he knew the backlash that was coming his way. He is a joke of a manger and has lost all the respect I had for him. All those first 9 years have gone down the toilet for as I just have anger whenever I see hes pigeon face on my TV screen. He is always making excuse after excuse. In that same interview he said that we did not win the league because of injuries hmmmmm yes injuries did play a part but the main reason was LACK OF SQUAD DEPTH MR MANAGER OF 18 YEARS!!!! How many years have we said on here that our second eleven is not good enough??. When you have Sanogo and Bendther as your back up strikers looooooooooooooooooooooool. Who is to blame for that AKBS?? INJURIES LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. The delusional nonsense that comes out of these folks mouths is actually mind boggling smh. The man never takes responsibility for hes many shortcomings its always someone elses fault. Look we should beat Hull and I certainly hope we do. As we need to get this monkey of 8 years not winning anything apart from the 4th place trophy off our backs pronto mainly to silence the critics and get the team believing they can win now, but it would not surprise me if we choke as per usual.

  42. Auntie Badarse

    May 12, 2014, 20:57 #51285

    Howja want yer hedgehogs? Fried or boiled!

  43. maguiresbridge gooner

    May 12, 2014, 20:43 #51284

    R/K, we certainly know alright, and as usual the same fans think it's going to be different, a new dawn yet again (how many's that gonna be now?)such is their devotion to their messiah. Maybe someone or more on the board did tell OGL just that, and the old has been is just that stubborn and won't take advice and just won't be told what to do and insists on doing it his way that he didn't. Or maybe he's just that past it he didn't know how, or maybe it was just because he hadn't the balls.

  44. EAST UPPER

    May 12, 2014, 20:19 #51283

    I see Basarse is conspicuously absent from this posting. The anti Wanger brigade are at their strongest. Perhaps he's planning an all-out morning assault, charm offensive with his alter-egos JulesD, WestFlower and yes HandBrake. Erm I mean ManDrake. Can't wait!

  45. Ron

    May 12, 2014, 20:15 #51282

    Bard - There you go again, underestimating Wengers and the Clubs efforts in the market. Hes in there, putting his feelers out and bidding, make no mistake. You've not just not heard yet, hes canny. Be patient and you'll hear in due course. The difference being said player will have been elsewhere for 2 years with a trophy or two on his CV, probably playing with Ramsey or Wilshere (or both maybe) and Wenger will report how 'nearly signed' him. Its nailed on!

  46. WENGER OUT

    May 12, 2014, 20:11 #51281

    Maguiresbridge - Wenger probably had his knuckles rapped for being so wasteful, 7 points really is a needless extravagance. As for getting the fans hopes up.. what was he thinking? I stern reprimand I think rather than a bonus.

  47. Bard

    May 12, 2014, 19:46 #51280

    I read Man U hope to have the Shaw deal done in a few days and Liverpool are sorting out Lallana and Chelsea are buying Costa This can't be right Wenger said no business would be done until after the world cup. Not another porky from the great man surely. Roughly translated does this mean we will wait till everyones bought the top players and we can then have tilt at what's left.

  48. maguiresbridge gooner

    May 12, 2014, 19:13 #51279

    Now that all OGL's, Stan's, Ivan's, board members, Share holders, (and some fans) objectives and ambitions have been achieved yet again for another season and all the hand clapping, back slapping, celebrating and whooping is over when will the divi up be? (although i doubt very much they'll be giving much to the happy fans)all those lovely bonuses waiting to be collected for a job well done again, is there some sort of super bonus for OGL this year for achieving it with a couple of games in hand instead of the usual scraping through? maybe it has already taken place and the spoils have already been passed around or maybe they'll wait until after the final with the hope of even more. One things for dammed sure they'll all not have to wait as long for the fat bonuses to be paid and it will be sitting in bank accounts a lot quicker and sooner than the fans will see money spent on the addition of proper players, we'll be waiting a hell of a lot longer you can be sure of that if it comes at all.

  49. Money before Football

    May 12, 2014, 19:03 #51278

    i am saddened that Sagna is leaving and i think he is worth more than 80k/week given the trollop that wenger is often prepared to give 50k/week. City will come in for Sagna or PSG or maybe Chelsea. The revolving door keeps revolving. out goes 80k/week and in will come 60k/week. This is Arsenal as we know it. Moneyball

  50. jeff wright

    May 12, 2014, 18:11 #51277

    The Telegraph made a mistake Westie in putting a question mark after what is surely only a rhetorical question - they do not require questions marks. Surely they can't be serious suggesting that could be true?

  51. Ramsey loves the world

    May 12, 2014, 17:56 #51276

    If I had been injury free, then yes, we would have won both the PL and the CL. Would you like to say something Theo? Theo? .... Matronnnnn!

  52. Ron

    May 12, 2014, 17:45 #51275

    Wenger out - agree with all that you say except the bit where you included the fans in AWs priority list. The players implore him to stay as well due to the Club being very easy going, Wenger is relaxed, they re paid very well and top 4 CL cash is coming in. As such the ethos of the Club classes trophies as nice bonus's if you can get them, if not, its not vital.A new coach would likely call for a different mentality at rick of players being shown the door.lets face it, what Clubs would have tolerated Bendtner, Diaby and Rosicky (the latter 2 s long term fitness woes i refer to, not their talents) plus others. You do sum things up well though on your point of the underlying reason of why they overtly back their Coach.

  53. Westlower

    May 12, 2014, 17:04 #51274

    @Marcus, The delusional drivel was not from this joke of a man but from today's Daily Telegraph under the heading ' Did Ramsey injury cost Arsenal title?'

  54. Jim

    May 12, 2014, 17:01 #51273

    Yes, Kev, when you need a hatful of goals, who better to play than the team who kept the second highest number of cleansheets, had the fourth best defence and the best away record? Fair and balanced until the last!

  55. jeff wright

    May 12, 2014, 16:53 #51272

    Ramsey also played in the 3-1 defeat at home to Villa, the 1-1 away to West Brum, the 1-0 defeat at United and the 1-1 draw at home to Everton before he was injured. Case closed.

  56. WENGER MUST GO ASAP(MARCUS). HES A BUST

    May 12, 2014, 16:29 #51271

    Again more delusional drivel from WESTLOWER, what a joke of a man. WE WOULD NOT HAVE WON THE PL EVEN WITH RAMSEY FULLY FIT FOR ALL THE MATCHES THAT IS A FACT. Did you not realize that he played when we lost 6-3 to man citeh?? oh i bet that did not cross your mind. The reason why we got battered in the big matches is because we have a tactically inept manager who is clueless when he faces teams on our level or above us. RAMSEY WOULD HAVE MADE NO DIFFERENCE IN THOSE GAMES WHAT SO EVER. He might have scored a goal and reduced the deficit to lets say 6-2 or something but that is still a lost lool. Also WILSHERE is one of the most overrated players that has ever played for arsenal. I just dont see it. He runs into cul de sacs non stop. Hes passing is average at best VERY OVERRATED PLAYER. The player we missed the most is THEO WALCOTT. As he has pace which giroud is totally lacking. We still woudl have lost all those games we did even if we had a full squad with no injuries due to the inept one wenger

  57. jeff wright

    May 12, 2014, 15:51 #51270

    The point is Westie that Ramsey had a break after he was starting to struggle when overplayed by a desperate Wenger in the earlier part of the season.He's returned to playing in yawn inducing bore-fests against modest opponents with nothing left to play for. Had he continued to have to graft away in that run of tough fixtures that he missed in the cold winter months then who knows how things might now be for him. The idea that he and Walcott could have stayed fit and that we suffered by them not doing so ignores the fact that this happening was as unlikely as Wenger winning the European Cup .Every side can play 'if only' but Wenger does it more than most,he has to do it or admit that he is not doing his job properly and with his big arrogant ego that will never happen. So it's 'if only' that is to blame. The FA cup final looks like it's set up for Ramsey to star in , and good luck to him , however we will have to brace ourselves for more nonsensical claims about 'if only ' ( yawn)the final though can help to banish the memories for Ramsey of the disappointing results that he has suffered at Wembley in the past. Fingers crossed then that Saturday will turn out better for and that Bruce (nice to see you ,to see you nice) as far as Wenger is concerned he would rather it him than Pell and co who thankfully had bigger fish to fry. Brucie looks unlikely to be able to piss on Wenger's parade with his stone age tactics and grim built to battle relegation side.

  58. Westlower

    May 12, 2014, 15:48 #51269

    Good analysis in Racing Post of FA Cup Finals. The significant upsets in the past 50 years ended with 1-0 wins for the 'underdogs.' Wigan v Man C; Everton v Man U; West Ham v AFC; Southampton v Man U; Sunderland v Leeds. The betting markets say there is only a 30% chance of Hull scoring compared to AFC. If there is 3 goals scored, Hull's chances of winning are reduced to 22%. If 5 goals scored, Hull's chances lessen to 16%. The implication is obvious, that Hull must minimise the number of goals scored to give themselves a chance of winning. Be prepared for a 0-0 (12/1) after 90 minutes. AFC 1-0 @13/2; Hull 1-0 @19/1. It may not be pretty!

  59. maguiresbridge gooner

    May 12, 2014, 15:30 #51268

    Guy in jersey, your right mate, how foolish of them flashing all that cash how foolish of them wanting to strengthen their team in order to win something it's just not right you know, it really shouldn't be allowed. Unfortunately a certain old manager so stubborn and set in his ways takes it and will continue to take it literally.

  60. Tom O'B

    May 12, 2014, 15:25 #51267

    Wenger still has to go. As the song said (kind of!) back in the early 80s 'Its Just A Delusion'.

  61. Misery Merchant

    May 12, 2014, 14:36 #51265

    The absence of Ramsey and Walcott for much of the season did most to derail the title challenge. No surprise to see that not mentioned here. IF (and after Wigan / Man City, it's a big if) we win the cup, it has to be seen as a progressive season (despite three wretched results). And one Wenger deserves the chance to build upon. Or we could risk turning into Spurs... spending a fortune and changing manager at least once a season, while nothing really changes. Europa league please!

  62. johnnyhawleyloovinggooner

    May 12, 2014, 14:22 #51263

    CTB we have been consistent away from home. we have consistently lost against every big team we played. We were very poor in all games against teams that finished above us in the league.to think we would of been champs if we had a top striker.

  63. maguiresbridge gooner

    May 12, 2014, 14:03 #51262

    If ever there was a game for Arsenal to indulge in OGL's vision of tippy tappy football this was it, meaningless with no pressure and with the opposition doing everything in their power to allow them, standing off, waving them on, not even bothering to tackle in some cases just running along side. But i suppose we could/should thank them for that as we've still one very important game left to play. A bore fest with the exception of a world class goal from Ramsey hope he has another in his locker for Saturday and of course the obligatory world class miss from the carthorse, maybe he's saving himself for next Saturday (is there an orgy?) where if he gets a brayyyce he can shag whoever he wants, and there was the appearance of our saviour Diaby and the chance for fans to remind themselves what he looks like and get a photo as it could be some time before another arises. I thought there would have been more players rested and no chances taken in the build up to the final but that's OGL for you flexing his muscle again telling us all he knows best. That's it all over for another season but disappointment Ed? no more than the last eight as it's been the same outcome again we've finished where most fans expected with a few humiliations as well regardless of out flirtation with success. With one exception of course this season, a final of a competition the manager and his fans weren't interested in in the first place, lets hope it doesn't turn out the same way the last exception did against Birmingham. Either way will it make much difference? Good review Kev.

  64. Westlower

    May 12, 2014, 14:00 #51261

    @Jeff, The figures must be accurate as they were in the Telegraph & not the Sun? Ramsey had an indifferent game yesterday but still scored a great goal. When great players have an off day they are still capable of scoring great goals. Jimmy Greaves made a career of it.

  65. CTB

    May 12, 2014, 13:46 #51259

    Watching Wenger interviewed on TV and listening to him talk about our consistency away from home almost made me want to break it in frustration. Consistent? Away from home? Really? We'll just forget conceding 6 at City and Chelsea, 5 at Liverpool, rolling over for Everton and being the only top 6 team to lose to Manchester United at all this season!! This guy thinks the fans are a moronic bunch of cretins who know nothing because they "haven't worked half a day in football" and the media just lap it up!! Even if we somehow win the FA Cup (and if Wenger can find a way and screw that up he will) don't let that cloud the fact that this season has been a total failure. He took a side 2 points clear at the beginning of February to trundling along and finishing 4th. Nothing will change at all whilst he stays, we will not progress, we will continue to stagnate. The transfer market starts after the World Cup does it? Is that why Man Utd have bid £27m for Luke Shaw and Liverpool have bid for Lallana? He drones on about how unfair it is that City aren't being punished for breaching FFP yet he's happy to draw £7.5m a year for achieving nothing!! WENGER OUT!!

  66. jeff wright

    May 12, 2014, 13:36 #51257

    Westie, with all due respect those ratio figures on Ramsey that you quoted as proving that we would have got 85 points is not provable. Had he somehow managed to stay fit and play every game I doubt that his ratio would have been at that figure .He was already flagging before he was injured and his performances had dipped from his early season form. As did the entire side but to claim that Ramsey's absence cost us the title is a nonsense. He and the rest of our players disappeared off the radar like a flight of P47's straying into the Bermuda Triangle when the fixture list got tougher,a case of when the going gets tough the not so tough don't get going . City scored 102 goals,Liverpool 101 ,Chelsea 71 and us 68. Ramsey staying fit would not have bridged that huge gap in goals between us and City /Liverpool. City could no doubt dig up Aquero's ratio of points won when he played (I know that his goal scoring one per game is very high) and claim that had he stayed fit for more games than he did do then they would have won more points.Everything is relative in the use of stats unless you apply tunnel vision to them. and this is what you have done. The best excuse though that I have heard was from Sherwood at spuds,he said if Bale had stayed we would have got 4th place. True or false? Excuses ,excuses, tbh we are starting to sound and act like the spuds these days with all of the whinging about injuries and other clubs spending money to buy success with it's all getting to be like a TV soap opera The Only Way Is Wenger Way. I already knew how the current series would end months ago and next seasons one will not contain any big surprises either,it will take a big drop in viewing figures though before thecompany ditches it ,while the money keeps rolling in so will the Wenger show roll on and (yawn) on... ... At least the locals in Islington will get to see the cup paraded along Upper St to the town hall a fitting thing too because the FAC games are all most local folk can afford to go and see these days thanks to the greedy gang of 4 Stan ,Arsene,Ivan and Josh policies that have driven local supporters ,especially young ones away. I'm assuming of course that Wenger will win the cup otherwise there will be no need for a parade.

  67. Kallstrom

    May 12, 2014, 13:35 #51256

    What did she wear Oliver? Very little hey!

  68. Mandrake

    May 12, 2014, 13:33 #51255

    Our English language? A curious thing! Hammers don't ham and fingers don't fing, Grocers don't groce and ushers don't ush, And why is a rear called a toosh, not a tush? What is the plural of mitt? Is it mitten? And what's a caboodle if there is no kit'n? Do women count coins when they go through their change? Is all lucre filthy? Are bedfellows strange? You can't have the willie, the heebee or jitter, And patter is noisy unless it's with pitter. If a guy's queer, is he gay or just odd? And if a girl's skinny, is she still a "broad"? Can you do a flip? That's an interesting word... Flip a house or a pancake or even a bird! You'd never say fum without fee, fi or foe, And why do we go to the bathroom... to go? Slim chance or fat, they are one and the same, And dick can be naughty unless it's your name! So if you love words and you don't take them lightly, You'll find by and by that you can-can write rightly.

  69. Peter Wain

    May 12, 2014, 13:11 #51252

    the transfer window for Wenger starts on 31 August and ends with us buying cheap rubbish often injured. We will see what business other teams do before the world cup.

  70. radfordkennedy

    May 12, 2014, 13:05 #51251

    Tony Evans..hello mate yes your right a little optimistic,but the lack of any real ambition by the board to play among the big boys will again mean mediocre players and a continuation of the "just enough'policy at the club.If the board would openly say that we can only ever be the best of the rest because of finances that's fine we should then get a coach who is more tacticaly astute than at present,but to not use all the resources available,to just pretend to be a big club,to have no-one on the board to tell the manager we've the title in the crosshairs go and get whoever you need to win it,you an I know it will be the same old horlicks next season just playing at it with no real ambition and a coach with concept of horses for courses with tactics and gameplans

  71. WENGER OUT

    May 12, 2014, 12:54 #51248

    Nothing will change under Wenger, it hasn't since he's been in charge, so why would he start now? The board love the work he's done, he's paid very well for it so why change? Because a few people who haven't worked half a day in football want the club to win things? I think not! Hopefully things will turn ugly when we bottle the FA cup final and the pressure will be on Wenger and the board to deliver star names. The only reason we got Ozil was because of the Villa defeat. This club should be going hell for leather to rival the other top 4 clubs to sign the likes of Luke Shaw, Seamus Coleman, Chambers, Stones etc. Instead we will be replacing very good players (Sagna, Vermaelen) with bargain basement tosh from the French second division - True Wenger style - One step forward, two steps back. What bugs me is that players like Ramsey are defending Wenger and begging him to stay, but they will be the ones jumping ship when it becomes apparent that we cannot, ney, will not compete. Nasri has won the league in 2 seasons out of the 3 since he left, anyone still saying he went for the money? Yet he lauds Wenger and calls him a father figure - It's disingenuous and ridiculous. When I read these players praising Wenger their reasons seem clear to me - He brought them as a no one, gave them experience at the highest level to the detriment of the team until they were ready to deliver, then sold them to a top draw club where they have a chance to win trophies and make more money than they ever dreamed possible - That is why they love Wenger, nothing to do with his ability to win trophies for Arsenal. I could have punched Wenger when he said that he could have got more by selling Fabregas to a different club... Well who's interests are more important to him??? The interests of Fabregas, the interests of Barcelona, or the interests of Arsenal? His sense of doing what's best for the club is so skewed now, I no longer think he cares. His priority list goes something like this. 1. His ideology 2. The players and their needs 3. The clubs bank balance 4. The fans. I defy anyone to watch his extended interview on sky sports and not get angry - So full of self importance and contempt as if he's already brushed those defeats, for which any other manager would be sacked, under the carpet. I was happy to see the right team win at the weekend and I will be full of praise for Hull when/if they beat us at the weekend.

  72. Bard

    May 12, 2014, 12:54 #51247

    As always an interesting post Kev. However once again we're looking at a busy transfer window er or not. We need a minimum of 4 new signings and that's not going to happen for two main reasons . It takes Arsenal forever to sign one player never mind 4. Our dithering is a well recognised fact. Secondly 4 decent players will require a big outlay especially if one is a top class striker. So let's be realistic. We might get one top player and a couple of youngsters who we've never heard of. So all those deluded optimists out there who still believe in all this progress guff need a reality check.

  73. Zurich gooner

    May 12, 2014, 12:28 #51246

    Apologies for the negativity from the sidelines, especially as an ex-pat who only gets back for a couple of games a season, but can someone help me understand how we find ourselves in a situation where the timing of releasing details on the manager's contract extension is seemingly "managed" to coincide with a "good news week"? Again, I do not see the team / club close enough on a day-to-day basis, but surely there is an awareness of how ridiculous this is and the implications that sit behind it... or maybe I am missing a key point here...

  74. Tony Evans

    May 12, 2014, 12:18 #51245

    RadfordKennedy - Totally agree, although sub £15 mil is being a tad optimistic, this is Wenger we are talking about!

  75. radfordkennedy

    May 12, 2014, 12:05 #51244

    Assuming that AW waits untill we've qualified for the group stages of the CL and waits for those who are going to have gone.I look forward to signing more Johnny Euro journeymen footballers in the sub 15mil price range or those released on a free by the really big ambitious clubs because they're simply nothing more than average,at least one will be injured and another will be described as showing promise,I'm not being pessimistic but you know its coming don't you

  76. Lord Arsene

    May 12, 2014, 12:05 #51242

    I cannot do any transfer business before or during the world cup as I will be working for French TV during this period. But I will still be working 24-7 for Arsenal as I can still send and receive the occasional text message. But the price of players have too many zeros to fit on my not so smartphone, therefore transfers can only occur after the world cup. But after the euphoria of the cup prices will be artificially inflated and so we will wait for the last day of the transfer window to get value for money. However during the world cup my scouts will be checking out the French postal service amateur football league in case there is a free bargain to be had.

  77. PS

    May 12, 2014, 11:45 #51241

    Please remember what our Lord Arsene said: 'no business can be done until after the World Cup'.Let's just ignore for one second that ManYoo, with no CL football, have signed Luke Shaw for £27mil, or that Chelski have Diego Costa in for a medical already. Wenger is an absolute clown and a loser.

  78. Croker

    May 12, 2014, 11:26 #51240

    It's not Diaby himself who is a "joke", it's the Club's management of him that's questionable and he is not a walking liability on the pitch (granted - that does n't happen often enough) like Eboue. We should support the man because he is an Arsenal player and has had a terrible time with injuries, until the Club pulls the plug on him.

  79. Ron

    May 12, 2014, 11:23 #51239

    Westie - It is cruel to call him a joke, agreed. Hes a good player in his fit moments as a lot of us have said many times.At 28 though its hard to see if he can reach a level of performance that he might have done had he not been so unfit for so long. I hope Wenger's not making any plans that rests upon a fit Diaby though. To carry on doing so would be lunacy now, as his fitness has been awaited for so long without result. Its not likely to happen is it.

  80. Guy in Jersey

    May 12, 2014, 11:14 #51238

    I see Liverpool and United have already put bids in for Lallana and Shaw and, no doubt, Chelsea and City will soon be flashing their cash as well. How foolish of them. Everyone knows that you wait until the last three hours of the transfer window if you're really serious................................about saving money (that way all the overpriced superstars have already gone). Who needs a Suarez, Ibra, Diego Costa or Aguero when you can save £20m by buying a Loic Remy instead? After all, it's not as if we're aiming to win anything - we've already won the stamina league, retained our top 4 trophy, secured an extra money-spinning Champions League qualification game, and our players are sure to pick up silverware (or silver medals) at the weekend.....

  81. Westlower

    May 12, 2014, 11:14 #51237

    @Kevin, I don't share your contradiction that it was encouraging to see Diaby back and then label him a joke. Pay the guy some respect for fighting his way back from career threatening injuries. Yesterday was his 28th birthday so he may yet fulfill his talent. At his best he is reminiscent of Yaya Toure. A fully fit Diaby playing alongside a new DM would be of great benefit to the team. With Ramsey's shooting ability I'd play him in the hole behind our main striker (whoever he may be). Ozil will then have a mobile target running into the box for his passes. The points per game when Ramsey started is 2.25, without him 1.9. If matched through the season we'd have got 85.5 points.

  82. LEULZ

    May 12, 2014, 11:11 #51236

    Kevin I respect your opinion but you have said 'so long as the right signings are made'. Hahahahahahaha. Here's an example: before even looking to sign anyone, Vermaelen and Sagna will need replacing. That's without adding the DCM that is needed and the top class striker that is desperately needed. So that is 4 top quality signings needed, before even going into a reserve keeper etc. Never going to happen. More rubbish. More straw clutching. More nonsense from the Specialist in Failure. But heym we won the Stamina League and the Calendary Year trophy from last year lol

  83. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    May 12, 2014, 10:58 #51233

    How's about some positives to take from the season; 24 wins, the most since 2007/08 and against the so-called lesser sides who were supposed to be the ones who give us problems (yeah yeah, Stoke OK). Now let's spank the woolys from East Yorks on Saturday to get that monkey off the back and finish the season off on a high. Of course there is still work to be done long-term but for the first time in a long time we arrive in the very last game of the season with it all to play for. What did she wear again?

  84. EAST UPPER

    May 12, 2014, 10:42 #51232

    Zurich, Richard, these points are exactly the ones most of us see. Wenger will always revert to type. A lot of pre-emptive talk and no action. Do we expect any different?! Transfer activity will be limited, or invisible. He'll wait for Sagna, and other relative issues to unfold before committing limited funds, if any at all. You may get your free transfer/s (with injuries) !

  85. Richard

    May 12, 2014, 10:21 #51231

    Well another season done it's seems to go so quickly. There are two issues for the cup final that are a concern for me. Hull have not won a game and are in a bad run of form which may lead to us playing complacently though I hope that's not the case. The second is how the players cope with the responsibility of winning the first trophy since 2005. Think this season has to be one of regret not so the games against Liverpool Chelsea Everton or city but letting the advantage slip against Southampton losing to stoke and the two utd results. I have a fear for the transfer policy this summer that Wenger will wait until cl qualification is assured before doing business rather than going out early and acquiring targets.

  86. Zurich gooner

    May 12, 2014, 9:52 #51229

    Wenger: "the transfer market doesn't start until after the world cup" No need to boss the market, identify your targets early learn from the mistakes of the last 10 seasons then. Exactly the right kind of statement / winning mentality that we need to hear... ... as we rewind the tape and watch the same broken record start all over again...

  87. Mike

    May 12, 2014, 9:49 #51228

    What a goal by Ramsey - Isn't it nice to still be involved in a competition when all the others have finished. As with anything else the anticipation is usually always better than the event itself - but if we win, I will celebrate as if we had not won anything for nine years - I will celebrate throughout the weekend and claim all bragging rights for the next several months as well. Well done to the team for making another final - this time just covert it please. COYG......

  88. Gunner SA

    May 12, 2014, 9:46 #51226

    Result keeps winning momentum going. To be honest Kev Arsenal didn't even need points awsy to City, Liverpool,Chelsea & Everton to win the league. Three points at West Brom, Stoke, Man U & Southampton would have done it.

  89. Wombledin

    May 12, 2014, 9:36 #51225

    6th fourth placing in the last 9 seasons. Zzz...Where's the progress!!?? Dunno about you but I'm so bored with my Club. I've had e'farkng nuff. Come on Hull, come on Hull!