Swindon 1969 still hurts

45 years ago Arsenal were hot favourites in a Wembley final…



Swindon 1969 still hurts


I went to this game, and, although forty-five years have elapsed, the game's outcome still cuts through me. Now, writing an account of a match which nestles in mothballs at the back of the mind's old-suitcase-under-the-bed-in-the-spare-room is a task in itself. I think it requires a discipline of mammoth proportions, demanding a litany of pre-requisites. It has to be interesting, humorous, well-written and factual. Oh well, one out of four will have to do. I'd suffered the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune along the way in my support of the Arsenal; I was not alone. Many barren years had passed but something was evolving, a new Arsenal perhaps. The previous season we'd flirted with winning a trophy, but went down to a gruesomely effective Leeds United side. The gangsters of English football. They would win their first ever league title come May. This year would be our redemption. We were firm favourites, so what on earth could go wrong? With hindsight that question in itself could have provoked a mailbag of replies. Yet even so...

I lived near Wembley in those days and, as an aside, would say I saw more matches at Wembley Stadium than possibly any other general member of the footballing public. I would be at work and a colleague might say, “Doing anything tonight? Fancy going to see England?” Invariably I'd find myself paying at the turnstile, and wandering in to watch England perhaps play Switzerland in a friendly. To endorse this point, a while ago my wife discovered a carrier bag full of Wembley counterfoils I'd stashed away, just some of the matches I'd attended, including all the Wembley '66 World Cup games (including the one game played at the old White City Stadium). Odd that one of the few who witnessed England winning the World Cup in that July sunshine is very much an anti-international football man. At Wembley, I had a routine. I knew the less congested roads, where to park, and then a twenty minute walk through the High Street found me beneath the shadows of the Twin Towers. Even so, it was a little odd going to watch my lads. Two consecutive appearances, this was becoming a good habit.

Now, I am not superstitious or cosmic in any way - fundamental and realistic would more aptly describe me. Yet a Cup Final does some funny things to a person. On my way, wandering past Henry and George Cooper's greengrocers - they were nowhere to be seen today, perhaps Our Henry, an Arsenal fan, was already at the Stadium - I espied a silver 'A', in the road. It was from a car number plate, and, scooping it up, I determined it was a good luck symbol; in fact it proved portentous. The 'A' - for Arsenal - lying in the gutter. This was an age of male peacock-style clothing, and I didn't let the side down. I went in a floppy-collared royal blue dress shirt with a yellow neckerchief tied flamboyantly around my neck. I cringe as I type the description. Still, with one flick of his musketeer-type hair, I see the younger me grinning and shaking his head at the older version telling his story. It is his tale after all. Concorde had made its first test flights, then its inaugural flight, and The Beatles had performed their final live performance on the rooftop of the Apple building in Savile Row (and yes John, you most definitely passed the audition). On the subject of the Mop Tops, they'd released Yellow Submarine, and this was pertinent to the North Bank choir, as we all lived in our very own Red Submarine for the remainder of the season, and in seasons to come.

Now the match is infamous for the ruined playing surface. The wisdom of our elders had allowed the Horse of the Year Show - a big event in this Spartan England - to take place on the hallowed Wembley turf. They never let us down, do they? So during a wet period these gigantic beasts, weighing well over half a ton with rider, were allowed to gallop and jump all over the pitch. Incredible, and all just before a cup final! We needn't have worried - the problem was in hand. Lorry-loads of sand were tipped and spread around, filling holes and, in so doing, producing a passable resemblance to Ramsgate beach. Interesting to reflect that television would never allow them to do that now, another case of the tail wagging the dog in today's world, but in this instance it would have arrived at the correct decision. Leading up to the match, the rain continued to fall so heavily that men in the area were seen hammering planks and making large wooden floating vessels. Our boys took to the field wearing...yellow! They looked good. A resurrection of the 1950 Liverpool FA Cup Final kit. Yellow would attain a magical sense of importance to Arsenal fans from hereon in. Despite the attempt at camouflage, it didn't prove worthwhile. The sludgy effect of the saturated sand, mixed with mud (mud at Wembley? You really couldn't make it up) made for an unspectacular mess. So did some of our play.

Early on, a mix-up with Willow and Ian Ure, who was the main culprit in overhitting/misdirecting a back pass, led to the opening goal. It rebounded off Bob and fell into the path of Smart, who after a pinball moment with Peter Simpson, put it away. We then spent the rest of the game pummelling Swindon. The keeper, Peter Downsborough, played the game of his life, being awarded ten out of ten in Sunday's newspapers. As the game wore on - I was stationed behind Swindon's goal - it became more frenetic as the clock ticked down. We rained shots and crosses into their box.

I remember, to my eternal woe, one wonderfully piercing, diagonal ball from right to left, perhaps from Jon Sammels, which came into the area. Stroller Graham came hurtling in and was a toecap away from nudging the ball across the line into the unguarded goal. In anger and frustration I stamped down so hard I injured my back. I was like a cartoon character who is hit on the head. You know, they shudder and wobble. I did too, with my eyes like catherine wheels and this pain running up the length of my spine like an electric shock. I have had a back complaint since. What a clown! There was just a handful of minutes left when Bobby Gould chased down a ball into the box, a collision tackle saw the ball loop up and drop kindly for him as he continued his run, nodding the equaliser. Wheeling away, with arms outstretched, muddied shirt and face, with that personable cheeky boy's smile his pose became an iconic photograph. If only it had heralded a success story. We learnt later that his blind father was at the game. Reflections of the ecstasy and agony that man suffered on the day epitomised every Arsenal fan's hurt.

Extra time saw Swindon take the lead again, with a Keystone Cops comedy clip. A corner, ball dropped into the box, and a dozen or so men tried kicking the ball or each other in the quagmire, which was a lamentable description of our area. It was a miracle that no player lost a boot. Finally it bobbled across the line. With Arsenal pushing forward, searching for a last-minute equaliser, it fell to that hapless man Ian Ure to tamely lose possession through poor control. A through ball saw Rogers with a free run at goal to get his second of the game and win the cup for Swindon.

This was perhaps a seminal moment for Arsenal. We struck out after this massive disappointment to capture the European Fairs Cup in the following season, and we established the 'new' Arsenal the year after in attaining the Double. It was also a seminal moment for the UK, as an Australian had entered society at a frighteningly persuasive level - Rupert Murdoch had arrived and one extreme man's narrow and nasty views of life were about to be foisted on our society and to change it for the worse.

Ian Ure's Arsenal career lay in tatters and, by August, he had become a Manchester United player. He epitomises much of Arsenal's performance to me in the 1969 Final, and the platform we built on. He was a centre-half of some repute - but failed in his attempt to convert from the demands of a very good Scottish centre-half to that of an English one. Our game was changing fast with big men using aerial dominance to lead attacks, and the flick-ons to other speedy players. Ure was exposed, unable to adapt his easy clearance style; slow in turning, he was at sea on many occasions. Sad for the '68 and '69 Arsenal, sad for the man - he wasn't a bad player, just unable to convert to the rigours and demands of a new requirement. Stepping from the wings onto centre stage though emerged Terry Neill and the young midfielder, Frank McLintock. The cementing in defence of the latter marked Arsenal's rise to dominance. Frank was fast, with great timing, and a footballer; reading the game better than any, rarely out of position and having this incredible three-dimensional awareness of where others should be on the pitch at any one time, most importantly the ability to convey in words what he expected. These qualities made him the greatest skipper of all time for me. With Don Howe as a cohort, Frank was going to take us to the summit. Still, that unexpected defeat would always just be around the corner, perhaps waiting to come into view. It did in 1978, 1980 and 1988. It again came back to haunt us in 2011; it mustn't in 2014.


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  1. Garry

    May 20, 2014, 21:56 #51782

    I wasn't at the match. As a young lad, listened to it on a radio, along with hundreds of others, in Swindon's old covered market. Thereafter I always listened out for AFC's results and over the next few years became a Gooner. Roger Smart had a pub in Swindon which i frequented. Don Rogers had his own sports shop. Downsborough had one of those majestic days between the posts. STFC also had their share of problems on and off the terraces (STAB). Oh, for the steel of a Frank McLintock in our midfield today. COYG!

  2. A Cornish Gooner

    May 18, 2014, 21:23 #51619

    BADARSE Trebilcock, a Cornish surname, should actually be pronounced Tre-bil-cock. Apparantly the 'co' version was invented by Kenneth Wolstenholme for the '66 Final. Like you and probably thousands of others I had memories of Trebilco for over 45 years and I was a bit disappointed to find out I'd been wrong all those years, all because Ken couldn't bring himself to say cock. Mike Trebilcock by the way only scored twice that day. Derek Temple scored the winner.

  3. Rocky RIP

    May 18, 2014, 11:59 #51577

    @Badarse - thanks for the mention. You are a gent. I thought of you when we won and that table we were planning to dance on together. Yesterday was awesome and a throwback to happier, sunnier days in the merry month of May. Love it.

  4. EAST UPPER

    May 18, 2014, 11:31 #51570

    @ 7 Kings Gooner - with all the excitement I think many would've overlooked the fact it's our first trophy in the Emirates cabinet. Glad you reminded me. A new cup sigh with 2014 will now adorn the panel going around the ground. What I saw yesterday as before was that whilst Arteta grew into the game for sure he is not a true leader. Arsenal haven't had a proper captain since PV4. Wenger has to address this without delay. Ramsay should be sat down and renegotiated with to extend, and, or increase his terms to fend off any potential suitors. Otherwise the key component of this side will be poached/PINCHED AGAIN! For now though Arsene and the team can deservedly enjoy their day in the sun.

  5. Alsace Lorraine de Totteridge

    May 18, 2014, 11:11 #51566

    Very pleased for the team after a very gutsy performance. Cazorla produced something vital when it was needed in adversity, and no surprises at Koscielny getting stuck in where it hurt, and Ramsey showing the benefits of shooting early and often. Pleased also to see the club captain lift the trophy. This will provide tremendous encouragementgoing into the challenges of next season.

  6. Seven Kings Gooner

    May 18, 2014, 10:59 #51565

    Before the game I said to my 2 sons what will Arsenal do to make this game twice as hard as it should have been - no one predicted not starting to play until 5.20 pm! Even at 3-2 we still tried hard to get to penalties when the BFG fell arse over head and Fabby missed the Hull player by a country mile, absolutely no danger, as ever, self inflicted traumas. However AW got his subs on at exactly the right time and Aaron's goal was pure class. Highbury's first trophy was the FA Cup and that heralded a golden era, as ever though we need a world class HM, a striker and a defensive plan. Great drama, great win and I was genuinely pleased for Wenger.

  7. EAST UPPER

    May 18, 2014, 10:51 #51564

    Westie - if you wear red tonight...this is what I said tonight....for Red is the colour that my baby wore and what's more it's TRUE, YET IT IS. Scarlet were the clothes they wore, everybody knows I'm sure......

  8. WENGER OUT

    May 18, 2014, 10:23 #51563

    Hung oveeerrr! Everyone connected with the club deserved that yesterday (yes even Wenger), it's been long time coming! We actually showed a heck of a lot of mental strength and spirit for once, to come back from 2 goals down in the final is remarkable and for Ramsey to score the winning goal was perfect end to the story.

  9. exiled&dangerous

    May 18, 2014, 10:15 #51562

    If any Hull City fans are reading this, well done and hard luck - it might have been a very different outcome if Keiran Gibbs hadn't been there on the line at 0 - 2. Sanogo went up a notch in my estimation for his effort, Ramsey is as deserving a winning goalscorer as I can imagine. I have a bit of a sore head today. Penpont Brewery, I'm looking at you........

  10. Ozzie

    May 18, 2014, 9:18 #51561

    Congratulations Gooners and what a brave fight Hull put up. Great to see Arsene happy, now off you go to Monaco, theres a good lad. Long live the FA Cup.

  11. GoonerMatt

    May 18, 2014, 8:58 #51560

    What a day, what a game, the boys finally finally got over the line! It was never going to be that straight forward now was it! True fighting spirit to the end, now need to push on and build for next season. Winners at long last, COYG!

  12. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    May 18, 2014, 8:20 #51559

    good morning everyone. First of all.......f**k**g yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......that's better. Lovely to see Wiggy finally picking up a medal after the long years in England. He can now retire gracefully after giving us three solid years. Thank you Mr M I will always remember you as a good steady pro. So, the FA Cup. 0-2 down to 3-2 up. Not bad for a team of bottlers. Now for some major investment.

  13. BADARSE

    May 18, 2014, 7:31 #51558

    Just a quickie 24601, to two of my 'new' friends, you and julesd, have a wonderful day parading. Talk in depth later but just wanted to connect about our boy Yaya, he showed such a lot and was instrumental in changing the dynamics and perhaps the direction of the final. To all now, I want my moment in the sun. I championed Aaron and posted a few times that back from injury he may see us over the line. With each successive goal/victory/performance I hammered that sentiment by using the same phrase of, 'seeing us over the line'. Yesterday I again said he had done just that, seen us over the line in the PL and orchestrated us achieving fourth place. I also stressed that I only saw that as half the job and to 'see us over the line in the final' would complete his task. Man of the Match and scoring the winning goal justified my belief in him. I take a bow, and as yesterday at Wembley was a Dog Day I shall take a bow-wow! Good old Arsenal.

  14. Westlower

    May 18, 2014, 7:09 #51557

    Good Day Sunshine, good day sunshine, I feel good, in a special way...we've come to the end of the 9 year Long and Winding road. We all live in a Red & White submarine..

  15. BADARSE

    May 18, 2014, 6:32 #51556

    Good morning Goonerland. What joy! At 0-2 I said to my wife, 'To win this now, we have to win it in the best way possible.'...we did! a pal asked about the 1966 final when TV mentioned coming from 0-2 down to win. It is locked away with other dusty memories in my head, of Mike Trebilcock, (Pronounced co'), scoring a hat trick. Overjoyed for all of us, and of course Arsene and the boys. Richly deserved Arsenal. Wow, what you have given me in my life is just so, so amazing, thanks. I have never demanded of you, entreated yes, but never expected or really earned the privileges you have bestowed on me and my little family and circle of friends-which has grown due to this website. No mawkishness, but heartfelt gratitude. Arsenal, you are special-simply the best. Thank you for another wonderful red and white memory.

  16. julesd

    May 18, 2014, 5:32 #51555

    Well done the Arsenal team, Arsene and all the staff. Didn't look much like everyone wanted Arsene out yesterday when he was going up and down the steps. What a great day, to all who are going to the parade, have a wonderful time.

  17. DW Thomas

    May 18, 2014, 3:15 #51554

    Brilliant game and win. Loved the roller coaster ride, bouncing from side to side! Thank goodness our Welsh hero was back from injury. What an engine he has! All around the lads dug in and never gave in. Can't criticize today. If there's one day to just sit back and enjoy, today's it! Been waiting for Santi to hit one like that for some time. Now on to the WC! Hearing enough about Rooney, but I do like Wilshere and Barkley together. Plus Ox! If this team next PL season gets firing we might be like a tidal wave. Unstoppable! And I for once applaud Wenger's substitutions. Spot on old man! Smile on my face won't go away! Loved that Kos and Per moment when they lifted the cup together. What a mighty pair. To think, a real trophy! Dancing a f..king jig tonight!

  18. maguiresbridge gooner

    May 18, 2014, 0:39 #51553

    For those of you who think trophies weren't important over the last nine years and probably still do judging by some posts, just listen to what Aaron Ramsey had to say in front of the camera as Wenger was being thrown in the air and doused with champagne, This is what it's all about.

  19. Martyn

    May 17, 2014, 22:57 #51552

    How fitting for Ramsey to get the winner. Great player for us all season. Just so brilliant to be winning a trophy again. That monkey is well and truly off the back!

  20. David the Price is Ian Wright Wright right!

    May 17, 2014, 22:21 #51551

    Eee aye adio we won the cup! Knees up muvver brown knees up muvver brown....,,

  21. Mr Koi

    May 17, 2014, 21:18 #51550

    Lifelong Swindon fan - loved the article, I know quite a few Gunners who feel the same about that day in 69 - which was probably our finest moment. Interesting comments on how things have changed generally, and not all for the better. BTW Well played today, great final, good luck next season.

  22. Any Old Iron

    May 17, 2014, 21:16 #51549

    @ Gaz - agree on Sanogo. Wenger got that right bringing him on. Rosicky too. Had he of got it wrong we all would've castigated him. Sanogo should never lead our attack v any big teams you're absolutely right there. He should be nurtured and played in the Carling and Fa cups where his enthusiasm and physicality will do damage. Today Sanogo was a useful battering ram. He allowed Giroud to scape their shackles. We profited after that for sure. Let's enjoy it, watch the highlights later relaxed with the pot won rather than delete the recording and think why me why us, AGAIN.

  23. Billthered

    May 17, 2014, 21:04 #51548

    Well we finally got over the line and I must admit I was bricking it at two down.Well done Arsene I have been a big critic but credit to you five FA Cups all them great managers Shanks,Busby,Paisley none of them matches that only old purple nose has five cups and that specialist in failure Moaninho has just the one.Who is the voyeur now Jose.

  24. Gaz

    May 17, 2014, 20:34 #51547

    @any old iron: did you see Sanogo after the game? Just a wee bit excited!!! Yeah he did well and as third choice great. But he's in no way good enough to lead this side as first choice or even cover. I really hope we carry this great feeling into the summer and buy big and early...

  25. Any Old Iron

    May 17, 2014, 20:26 #51546

    I have to revise my opinion of Sanogo. Whilst he is raw, he has boundless enthusiasm. He caused havoc in their box. Well done Yaya... Thank heavens we won one when it was up in the air. We were owed this. A brave and spirited fightback indeed. I'm happy to see Wenger happy. A stewards inquiry is not needed for me regarding the pedestrian start. We won, and that's all I care about at the minute. This is payback for many ignominious defeats of yesteryear. I will also state as a big critic of Wenger, I delighted that he is delighted. Seeing him tossed into the air by his players was a joy to behold. A great final for sheer drama. The cup is alive and well. It is residing in N5 for a year. That is so satisfying.

  26. Mike

    May 17, 2014, 20:24 #51545

    zee spireet of the team was fantastic

  27. Gaz

    May 17, 2014, 20:17 #51544

    Wow what a game! Well done Arsenal it took a long time but we finally got there!!! Genuinely happy for Arsene who looked like he'd had a great weight lifted off his shoulders. For me though as great as winning this comp is the bigger picture is they use this and realise just how much better it is celebrating a real trophy rather than an imaginary one! I mean watching those fantastic celebrations can you imagine what they'd be like if we go on from this and win the title or-dare I say it-the champions league! So let's all enjoy the moment, celebrate with the players, and improve the side in the summer...

  28. underacheiver

    May 17, 2014, 19:44 #51543

    phew!! thank god for that. Congrats to all. Now joint top FA cup holders with the mancs at 11. Not too shabby at all!!

  29. underacheiver

    May 17, 2014, 17:11 #51542

    I cannot see the game only following on the internet. 2-0 down after 8 mins. Has wenger struck the fear of god into them before walking on the pitch!! what is going on????

  30. Peter Wain

    May 17, 2014, 15:57 #51541

    crap pitch made it a mockery of a football game . A decent pitch and we would have won. I just hope we win today. Come on you gunners

  31. exiled&dangerous

    May 17, 2014, 14:24 #51540

    A Cornish Gooner - thought I was the only one down this way...

  32. BADARSE

    May 17, 2014, 13:47 #51539

    A Cornish Gooner, I really liked that chum, well done fella, a big smile on my boat at the mo. maguiresbridge have a great day fella. Caskets? I am still lethal in the box, ha ha.

  33. maguiresbridge gooner

    May 17, 2014, 13:34 #51538

    BADARSE, no Morosity today it's a big day and occassion for the club and should be treated as such,(it's been a long time coming yes)but we're all certainly singing of the same hymn sheet today and want the same thing. But don't be mentioning caskets we don't want to be thinking about funerals. COYG.

  34. A Cornish Gooner

    May 17, 2014, 13:19 #51537

    BADARSE, Apologies Monsieur Madeleine 38490

  35. BADARSE

    May 17, 2014, 13:13 #51536

    Don't be morose maguiresbridge. No Eeyores allowed today, ha ha. This is the start of the new Arsenal. Of course it may not be, but it just might. Either way if I am hit by a bus next week a positive outlook will at least leave me with a smile on my face as they carry me off, (as long as it's above their heads and ribbons adorn the casket). Have a good game buddy. Now with me, 'We're gunner win the cup! We're gunner win...'.

  36. maguiresbridge gooner

    May 17, 2014, 12:47 #51535

    Well here it is at last folks it's been a long time coming FA Cup Final day where Arsenal have been involved and it feels great, and it will feel even better by 7pm this evening lets hope it's not the last for another nine years. COYG

  37. BADARSE

    May 17, 2014, 12:39 #51534

    I wish, my little Cornish Pastie. I never even got to the Swindon match. Enjoy your day too chum, together, wherever, forever, Arsenal.

  38. A Cornish Gooner

    May 17, 2014, 12:20 #51532

    Badarse Post 54640 Is that correct? Enjoy your day.

  39. BADARSE

    May 17, 2014, 11:43 #51531

    Gaz, hi buddy. Yeah we may have won a trophy without Arsene in those nine years, it could have been the Championship trophy announcing our return to the top flight. On a philosophical note-I learned this in the virtual reality Online Gooner philosophy class Tuesday, 'Soccer it with Socrates'-I want to win it for your daughter too! For my daughter, my son, wife, grandchildren, and you; westlower, julesd, Ron, WENGER OUT, Rocky RIP, Chris, Bard, GoonerRon, SGRB...get the picture? It's like love, it can be limitless. To all Gooners everywhere, friends or foes, have the best of days. Let's bring home the cup Gooners. Good old Arsenal! Yes 24601, that summer of '64. Barrel-legged jeans, Hush Puppies, coloured socks, Big O and 'It's Over'. Lulu and 'Shout', the Beach Boys and 'I get around'. The Beatles 'Hard Day's Night' album. Scooters and an endless summer, also a feeling of eternal youth. I was prepared to change the world, and I only ever got to change my socks. At the seaside that Bank Holiday, running and hiding from the older boys intent on hitting each other, but laughing all the time. Even more fun than hurting or being hurt. Oh, and Frank McLintock came.

  40. Gaz

    May 17, 2014, 11:03 #51530

    @Jason B: Agreed fella. But I'll say one negative thing before leading onto a positive if you dont mind. I still believe Wenger has got it very wrong over the past five years. I also believe if we'd had a new manager/managers over the past nine years we'd have won at least one trophy. BUT I also now believe the quickest way for Arsenal to win the bigger trophies will be to win the FA cup under Wenger today and go on from there. If we lose-whether we go into next season under Wenger or not-it'll take us far longer to win those bigger trophies. On a personal note I want us to win for my daughter. So with that in mind lets hope the boys bring that Cup home and COME ON YOU GUNNERS!!!!!

  41. Jason B

    May 17, 2014, 10:43 #51529

    Lets leave the negativity for a day and get behind the team.Come on you reds!!!

  42. KC

    May 17, 2014, 10:23 #51528

    Glad to say just before my time in supporting Arsenal although sounds like horror show, I know about it just kinda of choose not to research it. Let's not dwell on the negatives, today is down to us play to our best with tempo and desire and barring bad luck we should win. We know we will face a defensive set up and if we don't move the ball quickly and drive at them the chances are the game stays 0 0 and that is my concern as then they start to believe and we get frustrated. An early goal would be beautiful! I agree re wenger that's a story for another day today we must all unite.

  43. HowardL

    May 17, 2014, 8:32 #51527

    Woke at 5am today. Exactly 12 hours to kick off. Hot day, hot favourites. But Hull are certainly up for it, just like Swindon were 45 years ago. But defeat today is unthinkable. We could be at the end of an era, rather than the beginning. But away with the doom and gloom. Can Arsenal do it? Of course we can! Cup Final Day - whatever anyone says, however many attempts are made to undermine this great competition, for one day at least the magic will always be there! Come on You Reds!

  44. Ozzie

    May 17, 2014, 8:09 #51526

    Goodonya, Bob, 54608. It must be quite a relief to resign yourself to whatever happens. Strong identity with a sports club is unhealthy and many people use that identity to fill the emptiness that lurks just below the surface.

  45. Westlower

    May 17, 2014, 8:08 #51525

    @Badarse, This weekend it also the 50th anniversary of the mods/rockers clashes. We survived that, probably because of our apprenticeship served on the North Bank. No better training than that in preparation for a dust up at the seaside. Doubtless, Hull will park the bus but we should create the most chances today, just need to convert a couple.

  46. Martyn

    May 17, 2014, 7:44 #51524

    I too was at the Swindon final and although we lost I still remember Bobby Gould's goal as if it were yesterday. The euphoria of the fans was just brilliant. Great memory, only eclipsed by the Fairs Cup final the following year. Really nervous about match today. We should win but who knows? Will avoid all the pre-match build-up and keep the champagne (beer) on ice until,afterwards. Come on Gunners!!!

  47. Any Old Iron

    May 17, 2014, 7:19 #51523

    Yes, they all hurt like hell. Arsenal have had more than their fair share if defeats in cup finals. I can really only count Southampton in 2003 on the credit side in terms of David & Goliath. On the debit side though we have Ipswich in ' 78, West Ham in ' 80. So perhaps today we can add Hull to the credit side and level things up. Ooh to ooh to be, ooh to be A Gooner!!!

  48. A Cornish Gooner

    May 16, 2014, 22:26 #51522

    Alex. Is that you BADARSE?

  49. BADARSE

    May 16, 2014, 22:20 #51521

    24601, just done a quick count up. This is Arsenal's 27th cup final in our lifetimes-and it ain't gunner end there buddy, am already looking forward to the 28th!

  50. maguiresbridge gooner

    May 16, 2014, 21:16 #51520

    Alsace, spot on mate it's our first FA cup final in nine years it's been a long time coming and it is essential to enjoy the day regardless, it's what us fans deserve, and i for one fully intend to do just that, and will not let anyone spoil it no matter what crap they spout before or after, in fact i've been enjoying warming up today in various public houses but i'm home now intending to save myself for tomorrow where i'll be out again, plain to be seen proudly wearing my Arsenal shirt with pride, cheering Arsenal on to win just like i always do.

  51. jp

    May 16, 2014, 20:50 #51519

    never looked forward to a final less. of course we're going to walk it firstly because theyre really crap/barely premier league standrd and second and more important because wenger always gets away with it, whether dodgy lasagne, dodgy west brom keeper or this year all home draws and pub teams at wembly. winning is great but this time all it means is 2 more years of the same smalltime attitude at a bigtime club then choosing a mini-me to replace himself. soon as we go 3 up i'm turning over for barcelona athletico madrid.

  52. Mike

    May 16, 2014, 18:48 #51518

    Cant wait for 19h00 tomorrow

  53. Bard

    May 16, 2014, 18:47 #51517

    Good call Westie. We are all desperate for some success. Lets put differences aside enjoy the day and get back to arguing on Monday ! I am hoping for a Charlie George moment. Great post Swindon lives long in the memory. Reminds me we have a long history major f*** ups. Cannot see Hull pulling this off. We have too much class. I have a sneaking feeling that Poldi will make the difference.

  54. James

    May 16, 2014, 18:41 #51516

    So it has come down to this.After a 1,000 games Wengers fate is down to one game.60% on here(check the referendum on this page) want Wenger sacked but if we win tomorrow its another 4 years of 4thitis.But if we lose he is finished for good.No way can he comeback after another failure.What a dilemma.I just wish we win and he goes but i know he wont

  55. maguiresbridge gooner

    May 16, 2014, 18:28 #51515

    A good article and nice piece of nostalgia ruined by your personal views on Rupert Murdoch was he playing in the game? did he influence the out come? As Robert Exley came on and told us in the comments of his excellent article over the page this is an Arsenal site, and if we want to express our views on something different there's sites for that.

  56. Westlower

    May 16, 2014, 18:14 #51514

    When Tone went up, to lift the FA Cup, we were there, we were there.

  57. Alsace Lorraine de Totteridge

    May 16, 2014, 16:42 #51512

    @If it doesn't go tits up tomorrow , it will still go tits up tomorrow. How refreshing to find someone who can express my inner feelings about the Craggy Beanpole Alsacienne. Expressed with the élan and éclat that must be the envy of us all as well. I do so agree. However, as I was saying to a great friend of mine, it is essential to enjoy tomorrow for its own sake. Why would you want to destroy your own enjoyment of a great day out because of him. There is another encouraging factor. I don't think that I have read anywhere on these pages comments to the effect of "we are going to destroy Hull City". Arsenal fans, it seems, have neither innate arrogance nor the lack of intellect to appreciate our less than spectacular win rate in finals qualified for. We do not come from Manchester or Merseyside and thus do not believe in the thousand year reich of success. WE have chosen our club and our fellow fans wisely.

  58. Roy

    May 16, 2014, 15:49 #51511

    Thanks for bringing that up !!! Good piece, though.

  59. jjetplane

    May 16, 2014, 14:53 #51507

    That was a quite brilliant article old bean! I was not at that game but remember two of my brothers were who were paper boys at the time. Mud and football always now brings me to Bobby Pires' finest moment in the mud against Villa away. Did get to all the happenings of the next two years and can still live them like they were yesterday. There never will be a player quite like Frank. Well done. Lovely writing.

  60. Alsace Lorraine de Totteridge

    May 16, 2014, 14:31 #51504

    The Arsenal website is saying that it is a POSSIBLE parade. I don't suppose that even people for whom the bar of success is set so low as to be whether they achieve a pay rise and a season ticket rise would actually face a bus top parade without any silverware at all. The fact that I believed that the suggestion of a trophyless parade was possibly true says much for what we have now become used to. I hope those who were lucky enough to get tickets have an excellent time.

  61. johnnyhawleylovinggooner

    May 16, 2014, 14:25 #51503

    The loss against hateful Leeds was the worst for me.fear not my London pride is in full bloom.

  62. radfordkennedy

    May 16, 2014, 14:13 #51501

    If you haven't seen the clip please do so log on to youtube and search..arsenal she wore a yellow ribbon..and you will see several players singing for about 30 seconds its a hoot!! Warning though don't watch it with young children in the room the BFG singing at the start is quite scary and reminiscent of the child catcher from chitty chitty bang bang!

  63. Sugs STFC

    May 16, 2014, 13:13 #51499

    Wasn't there in 1969 but was in 1979 when we drew with you 1-1 at your place before beating you 4-3 at the County Ground in the replay - one of my favourite ever Swindon memories.

  64. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    May 16, 2014, 13:09 #51498

    I'm with Westlower. Yes things need sorting out from the top up at Cashburton Grove. But FFS we're in a final tomorrow and simply must get that monkey off our back. The other business can begin again on Sunday. Everybody; COME ON YOU GUNNERS

  65. Ramgun

    May 16, 2014, 13:04 #51496

    I remember the game and that era very well. We were fantastically unlucky to lose to Swindon. Hong Kong flu had swept the country from north to south and many matches had been postponed because clubs didn't have enough players to fulfil the fixtures. Arsenal had been decimated by the flu epidemic and had to postpone the previous week's fixture against Liverpool. Unfortunately for us the flu virus did not reach the west country until the following month. I suffered from that flu and it was vicious. It left you totally drained for weeks. The sanded paddy field the final was played on looked exactly like the County Ground where Swindon played their home games. Despite the fates conspiring against us the players battled their hearts out against a brave and determined Swindon team who had a goalkeeper having the match of his life. Don Howe tried to get the referee to abandon the game at 90 minutes because he knew that we were completely finished physically but that was never going to succeed and an exhausted Arsenal team could not raise a gallop in extra-time. Somehow Court, Storey and Ure kept going, but none of the others could move. I still felt proud of the players at the end of that game because they could not have given more. I cannot let pass a couple of points from your summing-up. Ian Ure was a good centre-half, vastly better than Terry Neill, and was just about the most popular player at Highbury from 1964 to 1969. Ure's knee was useless by 1969 and he should not have been playing at all. Incredibly, Man Utd bought him from us and didn't even give him a medical! Ure has been demonised by that bloody book by Nick Hornby who was a middle-class boy who had just started watching football that season and was still all excited at hearing people openly swear. Neill joined Arsenal 4 years before Ian Ure and was slower in turning and in straight-line speed than Ure ever was. I agree that Frank McLintock was our greatest captain, but to call Frank fast really is hilarious. All of Frank's speed was above the neck. Frank could run all day - slowly. I still recall my feelings walking from Wembley in March 1969 and, although I knew everyone was going to have fun at our expense, I still felt that things would turn out right. The Gunners players in the late 1960's had a great attitude and were very tough. I knew we would come through in the end. If only some of the bloody-mindedness of those players could have been transplanted into our teams over recent years. Wembley, then and now, has always been a great place to win and an awful place to lose. Tomorrow only victory will suffice. My guess, and hope, is that our long wait for silverware will end in the pleasant anti-climax of an easy win. Hull don't have Downsborough in goal do they?

  66. Westlower

    May 16, 2014, 12:35 #51495

    @Alex, I share your hurt. Never have I been affected by a football result as much as that one. I remember I had to go out that night and on route to the bus stop, I walked through every back street praying that none of my non Arsenal supporting mates would see me. Thankfully as we grow older we deal with setbacks much more readily but back then as a 22 year old it crucified me. Finally, just a polite word to the WOB's, please give it a rest for 24 hours and focus on Wembley. We are all well aware of your sentiments. If your priority is to wish AFC to lose, then be sure to wear your amber & black tiger stripped badge with pride, so we can see who you are!

  67. smithy

    May 16, 2014, 11:40 #51494

    It won't be easy tommorrow but the big pitch and a hot day will be in our favour- Arsenal to win 3-1.Two midfielders scoring and a headed goal from a centre back.Keep the faith- we will be ok tommorrow!

  68. Bob

    May 16, 2014, 10:55 #51493

    I was at that match, my first visit to Wembley as an excited 8 year old. I can vividly remember wearing my special old gold (not yellow) and blue rosette, and munching my way through a whole box of orange matchmakers. Losing felt like the end of the world that day. I have seen us lose plenty of cup finals we were expected to win since, and it barely affects me these days. Perhaps I am older and wiser; perhaps I have lost my sense of identity with Arsenal and all they once were in my life. Who knows.