World Cup Diary Part 16

It's over for another four years



World Cup Diary Part 16


So it’s over for another four years. World Cups mark time in a life and with the conclusion of every one, I always feel the sands of time have shifted a bit further. I watched the final last night on BBC with my son, who is young enough to only remember watching one previous final.

Since Argentina last won the trophy in Mexico in 1986, there have been seven further finals. Only one of them has featured more than two goals (France 3 Brazil 0 in 1998). Four have featured a solitary goal or less. The tendency now is for them to be very tight affairs. Top level football in which chances are rare.

However, yesterday, Argentina, based on chances, should undoubtedly have won. Yes, Howedes hit the post from a set piece header. But the opportunities passed up by Higuain, Messi and in extra time, Palacio, were as clear as a team will get in a final of this nature. Gotse’s chance was far more difficult, but taken with aplomb. I wrote earlier in the tournament that composure at the key moments is what would determine the winners, and so it proved.

When these two sides last met in the final match, in 1990, Germany won 1-0 in a pretty terrible game settled by a penalty kick, with two Argentinians red carded. It was a poor spectacle in comparison with the match at the Maracana, which at least saw both teams genuinely try to win the game, unlike the semi between Argentina and Holland four days previously.

Although Argentina were only behind in a match for the first time in the tournament in the second period of extra time, they had got where they were, for the most past, by playing survival football rather than offering anything that excited much, with the exception of Messi’s runs. It is untrue to call them a one man team, but unquestionably their captain’s contribution was the reason they progressed to the final. That he was awarded the best player of the tournament award was a little strange, given he had been running on empty since the group stage.

Germany proved the best team and were deserved winners. Sadly, we saw a slightly ugly side to them at times in the final – theatrics, some cynical tackles – but this was no different from Argentina. Given this, I was thankful there was a bit of football too. Despite the lack of goals, it was a decent match. There was enough incident, enough moments of quality, and tension.

One of my travelling companions from the trip, Adam, had managed to secure a ticket for the final and flew back out for the game. We had checked out where he would be sitting after we had seen Colombia beat Uruguay in the Maracana, and I noticed that he was sitting in direct sunlight for the first half. By the time that the 90 minutes was nearing its conclusion, darkness had fallen. The shots on the television of the Christ the Redeemer statue with the sun setting behind it were majestic. It was a wonderful setting for the final.

Overall, people are saying these have been the best finals since 1982. It was certainly a very good tournament, although I would argue that maybe a few more goals in the knockout stages would have made it even better. Certainly, the group stages were very good. In my view, the tournaments in 1986 and 1998 were very good ones, all the way through to the final itself.

Brazil did a very good job of hosting it. There were no major issues, and it was a joy to hear that a ticket touting scam that was traced back to a FIFA employee had been uncovered by the Brazilian police. Someone didn’t tell them that FIFA were above the Brazilian law, and credit to them for not turning a blind eye.

Obviously things fell very flat for the host nation in their last two matches. The only consolation is that there was less than a week of the tournament and four matches in total remaining when their challenge collapsed. Up until that point, the feelgood factor made the country a wonderful place to be. I am glad I was not there in the final few days, it would have been like gatecrashing the funeral of a stranger.

The country has to lick its football wounds, and rebuild its reputation. I suspect it will have to tolerate a return to the tactics of the early 1990s when defence became more of a priority and look to Neymar as their outlet to win matches. But the thought of returning to the style of Brazil 1970 can probably be consigned to history now. Football has changed far too much, and in 2014, you need some semblance of a defence against the very best teams. Economically, it will never recover the funds invested to stage it. The tournament did provide a good advert for the country as a destination, but the amount they will claw back from the increased number of visitors is dwarfed by the outlay on stadiums and infrastructure. Its legacy is some top grade stadiums, that for the most part, will only be half full, some new roads and some upgraded airports.

However, the conditions in which the majority of the population live, and the resources available to them, will see no material difference. It was the same story in South Africa. If Brazil had actually won the tournament, it would have given everyone in the country something, and for this reason, a lot of goodwill was extended towards the team. People could even live with the favouritism they seemed to be getting in the matches. However, there was no fixing the semi-final, it was not close enough to be influenced by key decisions.

For this observer, it was an opportunity to travel to, and around, a country I had never visited before. I saw a contrast between the cities I visited, and, to an extent, saw the good and bad of the place. I stayed in areas that were very visitor friendly and others that were anything but. I learned there were good taxi drivers and total villains, that it really does help to learn a bit of the local lingo and regret I did not have time to make a decent fist of learning more Portuguese for the trip. It would have been fascinating to talk more with the people there, and ask taxi drivers why the hell they were giving us a mystery tour.

The trip was, as with previous finals I have attended in Italy, France, Japan, Germany and South Africa, an experience that provided many incidents and memories that will never leave me. And experiences are what make a life. Brazil 2014 provided such experiences to many, and for the most part, those that made the journey to catch some games or just the atmosphere over there will have been grateful for the opportunity. Overall, a good tournament and a great host country. One suspects, for economic reasons, there might never be another World Cup Finals in South America in my lifetime. That’s a shame, but at least I managed to get over and experience one.

As I did with South Africa 2010, I will put together a pdf of the diary entries which anyone interested can download so I can illustrate the words with some more images from the trip. I will aim to make this available for when I do a piece on the Red Bulls friendly. I hope those that were interested in getting a feeling for what it was like to be over there, at least for the first couple of weeks of the tournament, enjoyed reading about my trip.


NEW! Subscribe to our weekly Gooner Fanzine newsletter for all the latest news, views, and videos from the intelligent voice of Arsenal supporters since 1987.

Please note that we will not share your email address with any 3rd parties.


Article Rating

Leave a comment

Sign-in with your Online Gooner forum login to add your comment. If you do not have a login register here.

63
comments

  1. BADARSE

    Jul 17, 2014, 16:54 #53927

    Ahh, Cornish, with all these song titles and cryptic lyrics we are in danger of vanishing up our own B sides. If odd is weird, and weird is strange, and strange is unusual, and unusual is rare, and rare is special, and special is unique, then we know unique is odd. Welcome to the club.

  2. A Cornish Gooner

    Jul 17, 2014, 10:45 #53871

    BADARSE. I may be a bit odd, but I don't think I'm a bit ODD. My post was in response to your 'Kicking someone isn't manly, if it is then I don't want to be a man' It reminded me of the Rod Stewart song 'If loving you is wrong - I don't want to be right' But you probably know that. I felt people of a nervous disposition may have found the original line slightly alarming.

  3. BADARSE

    Jul 17, 2014, 10:22 #53867

    A Cornish Gooner, does it then follow that if loving me was right-you would want to be wrong? Bit of ODD there perhaps?

  4. Ozzie

    Jul 17, 2014, 3:25 #53854

    Cornish, nice to know there are a few Gooners with good taste. You are welcome to borrow my old Raleigh anytime if you feel like a rough ride but cant guarantee there aren't redbacks in the old leather saddle:-)

  5. A Cornish Gooner

    Jul 17, 2014, 0:46 #53853

    BADARSE. If loving you is wrong - I want to be right!

  6. BADARSE

    Jul 16, 2014, 21:22 #53850

    Have loved the links and chats and oddball scenarios we have discussed, from pasties to pastiche. You lot are a tonic for me on quite a few occasions-this being one of them. SM had a voice in a similar style to Stevie Winwood-slightly different but right up there. My flippant regard for Cowell and his travelling circus of clowns, and clownesses reveals a darker inner truth. It's why we batter each other with Arsenal as piggy-in-the-middle. It's all a part of the same problem. Our days and nights are always struggling to stay afloat, or upright if you are Kashky, because all that we knew has suddenly found to be on shifting sands. Watching that '66 clip that Tinman suggested watching was an eye-opener. The players barely touched each other throughout a high-octane two hours of football. Now players try to butcher each other, especially the ball players, and don't we at AFC know that? Ironic that the misguided macho men sneer at any rule changes governing the likely brutality within the sport, insisting that it is after all a contact sport. They should be made to watch a fifty years old film like the '66 game and still try to use their narrow script to support their views. Kicking someone isn't manly, if it is then I don't want to be a man. Loved the Four Tops.

  7. jjetplane

    Jul 16, 2014, 20:36 #53848

    WESTiE saw 4 Tops, Temptations, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, Edwin Starr and then I got into Zeppelin, Sabbath, Floyd (saw the lot) as suedeheads turned to hippy to soulboy, gatsby, rockybilly, punk, rave which I partook of all and now having a long breather with a lovely cup of green. Oh the days - From Ally Pally to Ibiza ....

  8. Westlower

    Jul 16, 2014, 20:11 #53847

    @Badarse, I would have paid to listen to Steve Marriott's response to Simon Cowell's suggestion that he needed dance lessons & a haircut. Paul Weller, modeled himself on SM & is envious of people who lived through the 60's music scene, condemning his own peers as w**kers! Loved that Motown music, passed briefly through Detroit 20 years ago, Sugar pie, honey bunch.....

  9. jjetplane

    Jul 16, 2014, 18:53 #53846

    Nice one BADARSe Bit a speed and a bit of Motown and owning the Sours Royal.

  10. BADARSE

    Jul 16, 2014, 18:09 #53845

    In days to come Kashky, people will look outside and proclaim, 'Tree! Tree! Tree!', but it won't be, it will only be a trick of the purple light. Many will scramble up the hill away from the rage, but that too will leave them lost. In the meantime I read the posts between you and westlower about the Small Faces and had to listen again to Tin Soldier. What a voice, what a song. Would Simon Cowell have voted 'Yes'? The answer is in the cash returns, and it wouldn't be marketable today so he would vote 'No'. Louie, (is he still on the panel?), would advise a haircut, ask Steve to stop swearing and spitting, and get them to practise some dance moves-then The Small Faces would leave and set light to the studio. Ah, dreams.

  11. jjetplane

    Jul 16, 2014, 17:53 #53844

    Kicking OZZIE got a real thing about ozzieland though never been there. Keep pinching ABO art and doind my own interpretations but as I derive from a family of bog dwellers I don't think I am treading on singing toes. Talking of bodies (and rocks) that sing one of my all-time favourite reads is Songlines by Bruce Chatwin Right - that's you and your universe outa the way! Mind you - like that blokie Tim Winton and all those crazy 'new wave' aussie sheep shearing movies with a ****ing beer or two. Then of course, Nick Roeg's Walkabout which was masterful for a Pom. My american nephew has a penchant for aussie electronica but am busy with our own brands for now. Talking of sheep, my mate WEsTie is a .... Titan! BADARSe - you were sent here by the Dalai Lama - now get off that hill (religion) and get under that tree! .... CoRNISH you are a poet of quiet profound persuasion. Right then Ozil! get thine arse in gear and give Poldolski (not Polanski) a slap and tell that BFG to clean your boots.

  12. BADARSE

    Jul 16, 2014, 16:17 #53842

    Ha ha Tinman, love it! I do remember winding up the record player for my Mum as a youngster, and the change in sound as it began to slow-Doris Day suddenly became a little like Dean Martin. Had a friend who has left on the last bus to nowhere-a dear and sweet chap. We shared a few glasses, discussed politics, music, and literature. Whenever he was able would go for his music, the love of his life. If he ever felt like asking me what he should play, in true Beatles style I would say, 'Get Bach!' Miss you still Jimmy. jj you are such an interesting man! You are like Kashky the wizard and elder-from my father's story-telling. 'Kashky was a man who hadn't been until he'd left. Across five times nine lands, beyond the summits of the darkest mountains, over seven ageless seas or more, to the centre of the forest, where in the clearing was a house. The house stood on hen's legs and when the Babayagar approached she would hiss, "Little house, little house, turn the way thy mother placed me. With thine back to the forest and your face to me!" Then the little house would spin around and around, slowing and finally stopping. The door would creak open and with a blink of her dark lashes, and a backward glance over her shoulder at the world, the Babayagar would stealthily step inside.' jj, you are as close to Kashky as anyone could be. As for imagery I always see you as the little boy in ET, now it is because you are Kashky, pedalling, then slowly rising into the ether with Bach playing in and around your head. Cycle on my friend.

  13. A Cornish Gooner

    Jul 16, 2014, 14:38 #53839

    Ozzie. I love pasties and requiems. Verdi and Mozart. Prefer Bach's Matthew Passion (edited highlights) Have been watching John Bishop's Australia - Sydney to Cairns on his bike. At the end of one programme it mentioned the death of Graeme Acton. Seemed like a good bloke. Just up the road from you. Well 1,200 miles up the road.

  14. Ozzie

    Jul 16, 2014, 14:23 #53838

    Not bad, jjetplane, Durufle and Choir of King's College. Hard to compare Requiems as all have their own uniqueness and appeal but find Faure sweeter to the taste.

  15. jjetplane

    Jul 16, 2014, 12:56 #53836

    BADARSE now you need to check Durufle's Requiem and the Sacred Motets. Way beyond Faure. Bach is my fave but love Handel for being the first pop star. Wonder what Smoking Jack would tweet for that. Guess he would have to smoke on it star. Got an immensely famous pic for computer background showing fans at Sours when we won the league. Doing my brain in 'cause I sure I know some of the faces. Great pic and easily found on google images. Maybe you know said picture. Like the vision of you as Hemingway orderley welcoming the new transfers/patients. Hope Alexis has got a strong back. I know a person with that name who is neither a) a car B) a hooker. Think Al might work better. Then OGL could be AI (artificial intelligence). You can see I am warming to him now that he has taken the role of 'star catcher of the unexpected universe' (see Eisley) Up de ****ing gunners muckeroo!

  16. emmanuel

    Jul 16, 2014, 12:52 #53834

    buy c ronaldo 200pound

  17. Ozzie

    Jul 16, 2014, 12:48 #53833

    Bad, ...you can buy rock with the moon right through.... The moody Blues. No remember? You're listening to Faure's Requiem? Wow! A far distance from Dave Gilmour, what? The Wall was one of my favourite films and I actually have 3 LP copies of Dark side. 78rpm?, sounds like Cornish is a bit abreast of you then? Love the Requiem; did you know Faure didn't interpret death as sombre but a time for joy and celebration? There is a piece by Bach that you may enjoy, it is called "Come sweet death, come blessed rest" the choral version is the most moving I found. Peace, brother. Cheers Cornish, love the pasties!

  18. A Cornish Gooner

    Jul 16, 2014, 11:38 #53832

    BADARSE. Is that the 78 rpm version of Faure's Requiem or have you moved on to the new technology - 33 rpm?

  19. BADARSE

    Jul 16, 2014, 8:24 #53829

    Yes Athoz, you can still buy rock, (and rolls!!). It perhaps still has lettering-but moons? Pitches may play a bigger part than we are led to believe fella. Am playing Faure's Requiem as I type, so a little connection there. Enjoy my friend, perhaps by mentioning this my light burns a little more brightly within, peace brother.

  20. Ozzie

    Jul 16, 2014, 7:41 #53825

    G'day Gooners! Bad, This stadium has a car park underneath, thus the concrete foundation but it came to light that the surface 'shifted' and players found it hard to keep their feet. Any complaints were met with the usual 'don't rock the boat'. Speaking of rock and the south east, are you near the coast? Can you still buy rock - with the moon right through?, which brings me to your mushrooms - aren't they better taken in the dark? - the inner world oft gleams more brilliant than the outer? Anyway, thank you for answer. Sounds as though that surface is a bit sus to me. Now, must ride off on the winter breeze, I have blade to sharpen and appointment with the missus and Faure's Requiem.

  21. BADARSE

    Jul 16, 2014, 7:27 #53824

    Just watched that youtube clip Tinman. No shirt-pulling, in fact players rarely touched each other except by accident in tackles. No dirty tackling or time-wasting, real sportsmen playing a sport. Good natured losers, no friction between supporters-a pretty sedate and consuming affair. Many shots on goal, with spirited attacks and defending. A different world cup-a different world.

  22. BADARSE

    Jul 16, 2014, 6:43 #53823

    Evening Athoz, how are you buddy? We are bathed in sunshine here in the south east of England and the weather looks settled for a few days at least. I don't know about the pitch being laid on concrete and I wouldn't expect that to have any effect providing the cushioning materials between that and the playing surface is substantial enough, so both could have but one has more material than another. It basically means it's about construction. How you get that kind of information is like breaking into Fort Knox. Irony abounds my friend, in an age of snooping and shaking down personal information the establishment becomes more and more secretive, leaving many guessing. Indirectly that is the biggest gripe for Gooners, AFC play their cards close to their chest and we are treated like mushrooms-kept in the dark with **** poured on top of us! I did find out that our surface is a combined weave of grass and an artificial material, (plastic?). This may have a debilitating effect on the joints with every impact, but who knows? JW is another player who may support my negative view of England players. I was constantly joking with friends that as he began to break into the national team I expressed mock-concern, saying he would become contaminated by the attitudes and behaviour of those older heads in the camp, Terry, Rooney, Cole, Lampard, Barry, Gerrard, Ferdinand. This is touching on the major obstacle that I have always held to, our society doesn't prepare our players in quite the right way for future greatness. The lad had/has a great career at his feet, it would be sad if he ruined it, but always likely. A very young, not the brightest multi-millionaire, so that isn't any real surprise. We could afford to lose him-but I hope not.

  23. Ozzie

    Jul 16, 2014, 5:18 #53822

    Is Arsenal's playing surface laid on concrete? We have a relatively new stadium here in Melbourne laid on concrete and the home team - which moved from the coast to play in this stadium has suffered considerable knee and ankle injuries since moving here. Could this type of surface be responsible for some of Arsenal's injury woes? On another point, never a fan of Wilshere - any chance of moving him on and using the cash on better things?

  24. mezut ozil

    Jul 15, 2014, 22:37 #53820

    Charlie. It is because Jeff has nothing better to do with his life. A sad old man who sits and has to complain. I pity his neighbours. Many people have long gone from this site because of negativity. He'll get the jist one day my friend. Get a grip online gooner. Jeff wright is a pointless waster.

  25. BADARSE

    Jul 15, 2014, 20:14 #53819

    Sometimes a comment on here tickles me, thanks Bard, your post just did. We await with bandages, plasters and crutches.

  26. Bard

    Jul 15, 2014, 19:44 #53818

    Thanks for all your WC post Kev have enjoyed them immensely. I had a hankering for Argentina but ok with the Germany win. Can't wait for the new season. Westie's posts re Khedira and the odds suggest there is more to this deal than meets the eye. Presumably an attempt to get into an auction and bump up the price. He's a good player theres no doubt but he's not fully recovered from a serious knee injury. He might be another one who spends a good part of his career in the Arsenal treatment room which doubles up as the graveyard for professional footballers so won't be losing sleep if he doesn't come.

  27. Charlie

    Jul 15, 2014, 19:14 #53817

    Jeff Wright, Why do you post on here? you obviously hate everything about Arsenal so can't really see the point. I've yet to see you come out with anything positive ever. Why don't you do the decent thing like Finsbury Joe did and just admit your a bitter spud or whatever other comedy club you support and for Gods sake get some sleep all this yawning ain't good for you.

  28. BADARSE

    Jul 15, 2014, 15:52 #53815

    Afternoon 24601, you did realise that trying to make it up is quite tiring, didn't you? I remember trying to make it up with an old girlfriend years ago, actually she was quite young-32-but as I was 13 she seemed quite old, anyway I did try but kept falling asleep. Yawn, now that takes me back in a different direction. The folks in grubby, grimy London where I lived, and where I became a street-urchin, used to say, 'Your'n', when they meant yours. I just thought all these people around this neck of the woods are very lazy, always yawning. Hope Ron thinks Khedira is going to Chelsea. Did you take julesd somewhere nice last night? If you did I hope you brought her back with you, otherwise you'll never survive chum. She's all your'n!

  29. jeff wright

    Jul 15, 2014, 15:49 #53814

    Without wanting to piss on Westies obsessional English clubs world cup winners nonsense ( yawn) it should be pointed out that the only ones that matter regarding that scenario are the West Ham ones. You really could not make it up.

  30. Westlower

    Jul 15, 2014, 15:36 #53812

    At the risk of upsetting Jeff Wright (yawn), you couldn't make it up), let's beat the drum that AFC have more World Cup winners than any other English club. AFC 6, Man U 3, West Ham 3, Chelsea 2, Liverpool 2. Volatile betting market on Khedira today, came as close as 2/5 AFC, 5/2 Chelsea this morning. Now reverted back to AFC 1/5, Chelsea 5/1. I've done my bit by betting on him going to Chelsea at 6/1, which should ensure he joins us.

  31. Priviledged

    Jul 15, 2014, 14:53 #53811

    I take Ramsey over Jack any day. Jack is all noise and gestures, a bit like Giroo. ramsey has the giggs/bale focus and influences a match. lets get Khedira behind ramsey and free him up for his runs into the box

  32. jeff wright

    Jul 15, 2014, 14:40 #53810

    On the subject of filthy lucre football cash without having the supposed lure (at least according to Arsene that is) of CL football, United have still managed to attract the German sportswear giants Adidas to pay them a world record sponsorship deal. This puts our one with the other German firm, struggling Puma, into a grim perspective. All of those years without winning any silverware under Arsene have impacted on our commercial appeal, and a belated FAC win only papers over the cracks in that scenario. The rise in ticket prices at the Emirates will continue for as long as the theater type crowd are prepared to carry on coughing up the readies to pay them.Everyone at AFC though, including Arsene , are on a jolly having a wonderful time. Pold is constantly posting selfies on Twitter of himself taking center stage while grinning inanely showing off medals that he has won despite not having done fork all to win them,it really is a funny old game.

  33. jjetplane

    Jul 15, 2014, 13:38 #53808

    Having just seen BT adverts, Arsenal Puma promos (Arteta and Giroud rule!) and Smoking Jack getting down with that other loser Hart in Vegas, the stench of modern football puts the industry under the water line with supermarkets sailing magestically above in the wind. Let the Arsenal cull begin in earnest, and yes Aaron - you can have a beard. Watch Hart and JW take the short cut to nowhere ....

  34. BADARSE

    Jul 15, 2014, 13:25 #53807

    Athoz. The editor arrives at his decision by whichever route he takes-me too. They are probably different pathways, or we see different reasons for the view. A realistic appraisal needn't be regarded as pessimistic, it may just be a well-calculated and honest opinion. The ripple effects you speak of occur every which way-this website is a glowing example. We do well in the Olympics seemingly-another event I ignore-but it is down to the type of institutions the medalists come from, usually wealthier backgrounds, or dare I say privileged?

  35. PAUL SCHOLES WAS RIGHT. JACK = GAZZA

    Jul 15, 2014, 10:00 #53802

    WILTSHIRE IS AN IDIOT WITH HALF A BRAIN AND SUMS UP WHY ENGLAND WILL NO LONGER COMPETE. 40 YEARS AGO THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DEDICATION SHOW BY JACK CHALTON, BOBBY MOORE, GORDON BANKS AND THE LIKES OF FRANZ BECKENBAUR OF GERMANY. TODAY THE DIFFERENCE IS CLEAR FOR ALL TO SEE. MARIO GOTZE DOESNT SMOKE, DRINK AND DO POOL PARTIES. JACK WILL NEVER BECOME WHAT HIS RAW TALENT SUGGESTS

  36. Ozzie

    Jul 15, 2014, 8:45 #53801

    Bad, was referring to No56970 "Cant see England winning it ever again." Pessimism has a ripple effect.

  37. BADARSE

    Jul 15, 2014, 6:51 #53800

    Hi Athoz, you are still lumping me in together with the herd. They are neither right or wrong of course, though herd seems to suggest negativity on my part, perhaps majority would be less inflammatory. The yin and the yang of individuals works in a multi-faceted fashion, though most would protest that they don't have a yin, and never touch their yang. I had a brush at a BBQ last year with someone I have known for years and still doesn't know me. I was chilling and he came and expressed surprise that I wasn't chasing down the updates on a rival club's game on the TV in another room. I said I wasn't interested, in a joking and polite way. He wouldn't let it lie and suggested I perhaps wasn't quite that committed to football. I tried really hard to explain that it didn't govern me, the result would occur whatever I did. I could deal with the outcome when I knew it. He was like a dog with a bone and wouldn't let go. He genuinely couldn't stretch his mind to take on board any differences he witnessed. That is an underlying problem with people in all things. What euthanasia debate-people getting a vote? Anyone would think this country operates to a democratic system. The church has taken 2000 years to concede a small amount towards female equality, so don't expect much change in important matters. They have too much power in our rule, House of Lords, education and parliament-in fact the whole establishment. Schools show nativity plays at Xmas. So archaic, with so many confusing and mixed messages to little minds. That is a disgrace in my opinion-no vote there buddy. They should make plays of Woody Allen films. England will never win a major trophy. It would require a huge upheaval, which will never happen. Why? Money! If it was worthwhile to a big corporation or the government it would occur, it could have changed donkey's years ago. The conservatism which controls the mentalities is too powerfully entrenched. Step into a different group of people, or a slightly different social group and all would align with my views in a general fashion, and all would admit that the difficulties needed to overcome, in order to enact change are insurmountable. Win a WC? England would struggle to compete in Europe, let alone the world. Asia, Africa, N.America, Australasia join Europe and S.America as virtually equal obstacles to England's supremacy. Still I think England has Antarctica's number.

  38. Ozzie

    Jul 15, 2014, 6:15 #53799

    G'day Bad, cant see the Euthanasia debate making much progress towards the affirmative what with the media whipping up the usual emotional frenzy in the herd. Pity they couldn't come clean on botched suicides with it's accompanied agony & heartache affecting so many. I suppose the people will get their vote once the fear mongers have finished with them? Re England, no point in projecting into the future, doubting whether they will ever win again. Still, should they succeed it would be comical to watch you all jump back on the bandwagon. So easy to feign neutrality when it suits.

  39. BADARSE

    Jul 15, 2014, 5:34 #53798

    Good morning all, evening Athoz. This website poses the perennial question, that of how can people be so negative by interpreting simple facts, then shaping their personal conclusion into a weapon to try to slay the perceived opposition. All a bit difficult to grasp this concept so early in the morning, meine kleine kuchen? This might help. I was discussing the superb service received by NHS doctors with a friend, he didn't agree with me-but he did say he had to take his hat off to brain surgeons.

  40. rob1970

    Jul 15, 2014, 3:25 #53797

    Wow, lots of bitter comments re the cup and our german trio.... While there was too much diving and some negative tactics in the knockout rounds, overall there was good, exciting, attacking football, and lots of theatre that makes football such an addictive interest. The fact that two of our Arsenal players didn't make the German squad for the final doesn't mean they are not good players....and to attack them is quite unnecessary. We have Sanchez signed and further signings to come....cheer up guys.

  41. Ozzie

    Jul 15, 2014, 2:31 #53796

    Plenty of people bored with the whole drawn out saga by the look of many posts - WC done to death, we now await Uncle Sam to make a movie of the whole thing. Anyone for cricket?

  42. Pierre Poode

    Jul 15, 2014, 0:48 #53795

    Meh! Damn you!!! Do not take it all zo zeriously!! Do not bite zo eezily!

  43. jeff wright

    Jul 14, 2014, 23:25 #53794

    Neither . You are not Paul Pudd though... not that this matters of course ... but I prefer it when you post under your usual alias ... albeit I can understand that having been proven wrong on so many things and subjected to ridicule by others on here why you have chosen to call yourself Paul Pudd. It's a thin disguise perhaps you should go into deeper cover and be more subtle in your attacks without revealing that you are trying to settle old scores rather than being bothered about my views on the German national fussball team ...yawn..

  44. Paul Pudd

    Jul 14, 2014, 22:23 #53793

    Are you the Wealdstone Raider? Or Artie Fufkin (Polymer Records)?

  45. jeff wright

    Jul 14, 2014, 21:59 #53792

    Now now now afters,if only the Germans had won the World Cup after England beat them 5-1 in the qualifiers then your silly question of ja but who made the final ? Would have made some sense.Better late htough than never for them and we all love the sight of jolly Germans having fun.

  46. Paul Pudd

    Jul 14, 2014, 21:49 #53791

    It's a very sad word, "If", isn't it, Jeff? If only Higuain hadn't choked given that golden opportunity to score against Germany. If only Suarez wasn't so sharp given a more difficult opportunity against England to capitalise on a mistake. If only Messi could have stepped up to the plate on the night. If, if, if... But at least the Argies got to the final. But who won it ("yawn...")?

  47. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jul 14, 2014, 20:43 #53790

    Yes Kev just read both, sad all the things we didn't see or hear about, where did all the protesters go? the spin machine of the Government and the robo cops have done a good job in making everything look rosy in the garden (TKOS himself Stan would be proud)and no decent TV signals for a country running a WC you'd think that would be a least be a priority everywhere. A sad story about Moacir Barbosar (it's just as well for Szczesny the same doesn't happen at Arsenal or he wouldn't be able to show his face anywhere) I'm sure when Blatter and all his cronies and even the Brasilian Government are rubbing their hands while divvying up the millions of WC dough in their five star hotel the last thing on their minds will be the sanitation and the poor.

  48. Westlower

    Jul 14, 2014, 20:39 #53789

    One lucky or shrewd punter (was it Ron?) won £83,000 when Germany landed him a 5 fold accumulator. The £100 bet was placed in August nominating Wolves to be promoted; QPR to be promoted; Man C to win PL; Real Madrid to win CL. @R/K, Coral have Khedira at 1/4 to join AFC & 6/1 Chelsea. Sky bet go 1/10 & 8/1 respectively. Fingers crossed we get him.

  49. radfordkennedy

    Jul 14, 2014, 20:22 #53788

    Westlower...I'd love to see KhedIra join us but reports tonight suggest there's been no interest or offer from Arsenal which bearing in mind the 1/10 odds of him coming would suggest that someone's telling fibs but I hope to god he does come

  50. Westlower

    Jul 14, 2014, 19:24 #53787

    We had a snap shot of why Maureen didn't take his ex-player Higuain to the Bridge when he left RM. The story goes that AFC were keen to buy at £30m+ but backed off when it became obvious Maureen wasn't interested in a player he knows well. AFC are now 7/1 from 9/1 to win PL. Sami Khedira is now 1/10 to join AFC. The bookies must think its a done deal?

  51. jeff wright

    Jul 14, 2014, 19:01 #53786

    Taking your chances and getting away with mistakes are the key to success in these tournaments. Example, Kroos amateurish back-header that fell to Higuain was a'la Gerrard's to Suarez,different outcomes though.If Higuian had scored from that German blunder the outcome of the final may have been very different. The Germans looked rather clumsy actually at times and particularly so on set-pieces .Argentina also missed Di Maria and Aguerio was not fit . The Germans are a functional side with more than its fair share of egotists. It's a shame that the more fluent Argies couldn't put them in their place like the Senors of tick-tock in past tournaments did ;but that's football .

  52. Website Editor

    Jul 14, 2014, 18:12 #53785

    Maguiresbridge - Can't see England winning it ever again, I am afraid. The style of the Premier League is based on taking chances that simply does not seem to work at international level. Perhaps no co-incidence that the English teams that win the CL are generally stuffed with foreign talent. Take those players away (for example Drogba, Ronaldo, Alonso from last three English winners) and I suspect they would not have triumphed. On a side note, since posting, I have read an interesting piece on the behind the scenes stuff that went on. We can't do links in the comments, so just google 'Wright Thompson The Rio the World Cup didn't show' on the ESPN website - also worth reading his entry about 'Scenes of defeat on the streets of Brazil' - some real local flavour

  53. DW Thomas

    Jul 14, 2014, 17:02 #53783

    Was a great tourney inthegroup stages. Many, many great moments if you actually watched more than 2-3 games! Problem is England went out and let's be honest, if you have no home team to root for, it's not near as fun. By my roots, Les Bleus are my team. Interesting they only lost to Germany by one goal and Benzema like Higuain, flopped. Still, always like Gotze and he took his chance with aplomb! Commeth the moment and all that! Yeah, Poldi sure looked the poser, not really involved most of the tournament, but center of the trophy celebrations. Shame Messi couldn't do it. He looked dead, totally gassed second alf and on! Still Argentina should have won. Agree, key moments decide these games now. Finally, we am focus on Arsenal. Waiting to see if our buying continues and who get in. The puzzle completion is close, will it be finished? Big questions remain for this club. We stand this year on the precipice. Success? Or. Or more of the same failure? For some reason I feel positive. We'll see how long it lasts...

  54. Lazymedia

    Jul 14, 2014, 16:46 #53780

    Kevin, thanks for taking the time to write about your experiences in Brazil. I have really enjoyed reading them. I used to go to tournaments following the England team, but can't anymore. Your blog posts are a way I can get a feel of the atmosphere in Brazil without having to fly there myself. I hope you will be doing another blog for Russia in 2018. Better start planning now, as it will probably be a logistical nightmare.

  55. maguiresbridge gooner

    Jul 14, 2014, 16:39 #53779

    Do you think your son will ever see England win it Kev? Or us old boys old enough to remember the last time, again? I certainly doubt it, as Alan Shearer once said about Newcastle after they were played off the park by an Arsenal in their prime (a long time ago now) we're years behind them. Not that i care about England or any International teams i don't, but i think their getting even further behind. Not a classic but Germany were worthy winners and deserved it, but the babes in the stands and the wags on the pitch afterwards looked classy and as someone has already pointed out the carthorse would have had a ball but he was long gone. But OGL was still swanning around i wonder has he got his medal yet.

  56. jjetplane

    Jul 14, 2014, 16:21 #53778

    Higuaine is a donkey beyond donkeys. The BFG and Pod with little boy (John Terry) were an incredible embarrasment and Ozil should stick to being mysteriously lazy because running around and telling Muller (he was ****!) to keep out of it is just plain comical. Even more comical was Ozil celebrating like everyone else. All looked fake like that stupid Ronaldo moment of chest baring for an up-coming movie. Which gets us to the mess which is now Messi. Could not hit a ****ing barn door but sponsors say 'he very good no gringo'. One moment sublime was the baby-faced assassin sticking that ball away in the 113th. A real football moment of Shakespearean proportion. What is it with Germans getting scarred up and psychopathic GKs staying on the pitch? Oh well, all over and now it's all about FIFA sharing out the booty amongst the extended football family as the favelas go back to fighting robo cops with bow and arrows. I guess if we think Brazil are unhappy take a look at silly, smug Argentina. They really could be friends now that WW2 is finally over ...... It's like the Incas made a comeback and then thought ****-it. Anyway, happy birthday to me! 14th Bastille Henry Come on you rip roaring reds! (not you Pod)

  57. lee armitt

    Jul 14, 2014, 15:03 #53777

    it started well but ended up as one big bore fest

  58. jeff wright

    Jul 14, 2014, 14:56 #53776

    yeah, it was noticeable how much Loew rated Per and Pold's contributions... even little Ozil was subbed to allow TBFG to have his 2 minutes of glory once Germany was a goal ahead and game over.

  59. BADARSE

    Jul 14, 2014, 14:00 #53775

    Kevin I have made my peace in explaining that International football and these competitions are not my cuppa tea, whilst complimenting you on your pieces and the absolute joy you have given to those who have read them, myself included. I just wanted to make a distinction between them and the poignancy that came across in this, the last article. Thanks for all of them, especially this in summing up the trip. So pleased you can lay down another set of wonderful experiences.

  60. underacheiver

    Jul 14, 2014, 13:05 #53772

    gotta love the way poldoski gets his mug in the middle of all the photo opportunities. If he did the same on the pitch he'd be our leading scorer.

  61. GaryFootscrayAustralia

    Jul 14, 2014, 12:50 #53770

    Schweini, eh? Brilliant. Everybody jerked themselves silly over Mascherano in the media studios, yet all of his dirty tricks couldn't stop the German. Cue that flake on Talk****e running a show centered around Ozil flopping on the big stage, and Mert & Poldi over - celebrating because they didn't contribute....or something like that.

  62. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Jul 14, 2014, 12:43 #53769

    Quite right Cameron who wants to watch international football when we can watch 22 plodders lump the ball 70 yards up and down the pitch for 90 minutes. It was a pretty poor tournament overall the standard not very good, but there just ain't the players any more. Oh hold on, the Best League In The World starts again soon.

  63. Cameron

    Jul 14, 2014, 10:13 #53762

    Started off pretty good and ended as "meh" A month of non-stop footy but ony a few Wow moments will stick in the mind - RVP header, Cahill volley, Rodriguez smash. Apart from that, quite a lot of tedium. Give me club football anyday.