And Leicester!

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And Leicester!


Yaya Sanogo is the focal point of criticism for yesterday’s unimpressive display at Leicester. However, the kid does not pick himself. That Arsène Wenger continues with his experiment to develop Sanogo into a first class footballer will certainly cost Arsenal any chance of a shot at the league title if it continues. The difference between someone like Sanogo and Aaron Ramsey is that, in his early days, you could see Ramsey had the basics to become a very good footballer. Sadly, Sanogo does not have a first touch. Being gangly and awkward does not mean it is impossible to be a very decent forward in a possession team. Zlatan Ibrahimovic is an example of this. However the difference between the young Ibra and Sanogo is as wide as the amounts spent compiling the two teams that started yesterday’s fixture at the King Power Stadium.

The Alexis as central striker experiment was deemed not to have worked when he was hauled off at half-time the previous weekend at Everton. Yet, against Besiktas, there was obvious improvement. The conclusion was that Sanogo was drafted in yesterday because the manager felt the quality of the opposition allowed for him to continue with his indulgence of proving he has found a raw talent he can make good. The hope is that he now realizes it is going to cost him too many points and will either return to Alexis or ideally give himself better options by spending some of the £100 million the club can now afford, given their progress to the Champions League pot of gold. Certainly, to leave a large sum of cash in the bank whilst the squad is short will lead to valid questions about the decision makers at the club. That Stan Kroenke made the trip to the East Midlands to catch the game was an eye opener, and hopefully an indicator that some big decisions are going to be made before the end of today regards the club’s spending.

As for the match itself, after about 83 minutes, a stat revealed that Arsenal had made 24 attempts on goal compared to Leicester’s eight. The problem was that the vast majority of them were not particularly clear cut, and on the isolated occasions they did break through, Casper Schmeichel seemed to block them with ease.

As for the two goals, the first was a combination of Leicester’s offside trap going awry and Alexis being in the right place at the right time to convert Sanogo’s saved effort. Koscielny had been removed from the fray for a head cut before the goal, but was back on the field at the time of Leicester’s equalizer shortly afterwards. Mertesacker’s lack of pace was exposed in the build-up and Koscielny was nowhere near Leonardo Ulloa when the cross came in. That he was subbed shortly afterwards indicated that mentally, he was not fit to continue. Questions ensued about why Calum Chambers was not brought on initially when Koscielny was presumably having stitches in the dressing room.

Alexis and Ozil played on the opposite flanks to where we have been accustomed to seeing them, but ultimately, the quick passing movements and one-twos to break down the Leicester defence failed, sometimes because Sanogo was involved, but not always. It is strange though, that a player such as Sanogo is the antithesis of ‘Wengerball’ as it is sometimes labeled, yet the manager persists with him. Whatever, in spite of seeming to dominate possession, Arsenal looked uninspired, and failed to break down a defence that one suspects other sides will make easier work of. One wonders what, privately, players such as Ozil and Alexis make of being asked to work with an unproven 21-year-old who has yet to score for the club after 16 appearances. In fairness to Sanogo, no-one in an Arsenal shirt covered themselves in glory yesterday, although he was probably the worst. There is no point in singling out, say, Ozil over Cazorla though, even if Ozil-bashing is currently in vogue. Even Aaron Ramsey seemed ineffective, in spite of not playing in midweek against Besiktas. It was simply a poor performance all round.

Arsenal were fortunate not to go behind in the early stages of the second half when Ulloa only had the keeper to beat and found the side netting. Sanogo enjoyed a fine opportunity but blasted it at the keeper without even looking up. Podolski and Oxlade-Chamberlain were given 15 minutes to try and change things, and the former did have one good chance that was smothered. However, you have to wonder why they were not tried earlier, or indeed why Joel Campbell was not given a chance after the manager’s claims that he too is a striker, and surely a better one that Sanogo. An alternative would have been to bring Campbell on wide and move Alexis into the middle at half time.

All ifs and buts. Arsenal remain unbeaten, but four points behind the leaders after three matches, and critically, not looking anything like a team that is about to hit its groove soon. Quite obviously, there are areas of the squad which need improvement and strengthening, and the club have the funds to make this happen. So let’s hope for some news today which can return the optimism and feelgood factor that built up with the FA Cup win and the July signings. If not, it has the feeling that it is going to be another race for fourth place kind of season.

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  1. GBP

    Sep 03, 2014, 19:15 #56563

    SKG - Id had assumed you were tongue in cheek ha. I loved FM as well. He more or less alone dragged Arsenal past the glass ceiling created by the 17 years of darkness didnt he. He used to be great on SKY. Always right to the point wasn't he, just as he was as a player. As a kid i always recall him lamping a chap at a Burnley game i went to and he got sent off with the Burnley player. Ive never been able to recall who the Burnley player was. Must have been about 1967 time. He had a right temper did Frank then didnt he!Gorbals lad i believe?

  2. Seven Kings Gooner

    Sep 03, 2014, 17:47 #56555

    GBP : Sorry I did have my tongue firmly in my check when I mentioned the "True Grit" book. The football world is pretty much like the banking industry, uncontrolled and full of dodgy people so IMO the people working in it lose sight of the boundaries that are supposed to control it's behaviour. However in pure football terms we would not have won the Fairs Cup or the Double with Frank's leadership. However for me the major fact was that by winning the eight league title we held the record for the most 1st (Premier Division) titles won, that alone is worth a statue. Since that May evening in 1971 we have been in a steady decline apart from some occasional resurgences.

  3. GBP

    Sep 03, 2014, 17:09 #56552

    SKG - Im not sure 'True Grit' reached into his years as an agent did it? I read it about 8 years ago while i was stuck in the Highlands trapped by snowdrifts one Winter!! I could be wrong. At the time of the Allardyce stuff, FMs name was being chucked about a lot. Could all be rubbish of course but much of it seemed credible, though perhaps circumstantial as a result of his agency business sailing close to many of them who were accused.

  4. Seven Kings Gooner

    Sep 03, 2014, 16:37 #56547

    GBP : Funny I never read about any bungs in Frank's book "True Grit"

  5. I.M.O.

    Sep 03, 2014, 15:00 #56543

    @KnowMan No problem mate. Agreed, extremely cliquey. I think you're points are totally valid and worth discussing. As are mine! The main thing is, now we have Ozil and Welbeck we're guaranteed 4th Place, the ambition at our Club is overwhelming!!!!

  6. GBP

    Sep 03, 2014, 13:43 #56534

    Seven Kings - Legend though he was and is Frank wont be getting a statue i suspect anytime soon. Very much smoke and fire surrounded him in the bungs issue at the time of the GG saga and later via his agency role at the time. Him any many others, though GG took the fall for so many in truth as a result of his higher profile. Quite a few bosses in the game after GGs time owe GG for the fact they survived un implicated. Others just died and it avoided them being treated as GG was. PS Those names from the 71 team, ao many were Billy Wrights proteges yet he never gets a mention does he. Its like Wright has been airbrushed away yet he was the author of that teams success really wasnt he.

  7. BADARSE

    Sep 03, 2014, 13:06 #56525

    chris dee, names to fill you up with pride...and Bob Wilson, who developed at AFC. @ Seven Kings Gooner, let's start it now. I guess anyone reading these posts, and especially if we mention the idea on subsequent articles the message will get out there. Someone may be able to make a suggestion on the way to go. Kevin are you listening? Can the Gooner bang the drum a bit?

  8. chris dee

    Sep 03, 2014, 11:19 #56521

    Yep Frankie,we're proud to say that name. We bought him from Leicester as a 'wing half ' but came into his own when Don Howe persuaded him to become a centre half .He didn't suffer lack of commitment and effort on the pitch which were two of the key elements of our success at that time because,as now, other teams could outspend us. But just look at the homegrown players that were regulars in the team,Radford,Kennedy,Rice,Storey,Kelly,George,Armstrong,Sammnels,Kelly,Simpson. It will never happen again. Good signing by Arsene of Wellbeck,same price as Balotelli ,but watch him outscore the miserable git now that he will be given a run in a good team.

  9. Seven Kings Gooner

    Sep 03, 2014, 10:15 #56516

    Badarse - when do we start a petition to get a statue for Frank?

  10. BADARSE

    Sep 02, 2014, 21:19 #56497

    Seven Kings Gooner in early 1970 I palled up with an Arsenal fan from work and we went regularly together. I was totally under the spell of Frank, he was everything I wanted in a skipper. I genuinely believe that I would have tried to run through a wall for him. My buddy, who was a sweet man, was nearly twenty years older than me, and he revered Uncle Joe, as he called him. He constantly made comparisons like, yeah, Joe would have done/said that. He also idolised Frank it has to be said. One day, standing on the North Bank together in early '71, he turned and said, 'You know what? I think Frank was the better captain.' I just smiled and said, 'Really?' We never discussed comparisons again, just how good Frank was. He almost stole my crown by regularly saying, 'Did you see the way Frank glared at that player who'd just elbowed him?' or 'Look at Frank telling Charlie off.' So, my dear friend loved Joe, and came to love Frank in the same way, and though Frank edged it in my pal's opinion as time went on, they had to both be stand-out captains to him, as they clearly were to all. Your Dad was right, as you are, Seven Kings Gooner.

  11. Know Man

    Sep 02, 2014, 20:33 #56495

    @ I.M.O Thanks for responding to my post, thought I was invisible for a moment! Quite clicky in here it seems.

  12. HowardL

    Sep 02, 2014, 18:55 #56491

    A couple of weeks ago I was quite optimistic but watching Sunday's game was almost as depressing as the 6-0 defeat by Chelsea last season. The team are easily outmuscled by agricultural defenders, plus weak refereeing. Sanogo appears to lack even basic ball skills and I cannot see him improving much. Hopefully Welbeck will not be another Silvestre but his scoring record is not exactly inspiring. Ho hum - Groundhog Day. Again.

  13. Martyn

    Sep 02, 2014, 18:02 #56485

    You say that but I seem to remember a pretty instant fuss made when Alexis signed. By the way, any free agent defenders available? We might need one if injuries strike mertekos.

  14. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 02, 2014, 17:47 #56482

    Martyn, sadly the days of posing with world class players holding their new clubs shirts has long gone as far as OGL and Arsenal are concerned.

  15. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 02, 2014, 15:23 #56468

    GBP, your entitled to your opinion, for what it's worth.

  16. GBP

    Sep 02, 2014, 14:29 #56461

    Maguire G .. maybe so, but i do my best. To be honest though, i dont see much in the way of universal respect from othger posters for your rather puerile efforts on here either. You seem to be tolerated but not greatly considered as having much worthwhile to offer.

  17. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 02, 2014, 14:20 #56460

    Bard, we'll soon find out when he keeps him on the bench and sticks with bambi.

  18. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 02, 2014, 14:06 #56457

    It was very good of the supermarket to stay open late for us last night i'm sure it was easier to dash around with nobody in it there wasn't much in the trolly either. Even though not all the shopping was done what was in it certainly should be better than we have(but that wouldn't be very hard) now all we have to do is wait and see what way he's coached and if he's played in his proper position and not on the wing or left back.

  19. I.M.O.

    Sep 02, 2014, 13:53 #56455

    My huge concern is our lack of organisation and preparation for the start of the season. Why were the German's not back earlier and in training earlier after the World Cup? Why weren't possible buys being scouted and approached earlier in positions that badly needed filling? DM and Striker? Why? This was sudden. It's frustrating. We have signed Welbeck. Not the worst signing ever, really could work with Theo and Alexis but he'd not the signing that will help in winning the EPL. Again we have ageing players as mentioned by @KnowMan for instance Arteta that are not going to keep up with the pace of the game. I'm not a WOB BUT I really wish he'd retired after winning the FA Cup. Just disappointed really.

  20. KC

    Sep 02, 2014, 13:47 #56454

    @Highbury Boy - Good post its exactly what so many are thinking, lose Debuchy and a centre back at the same time and were in trouble. The question is why? The players required are not super expensive forwards they are players we should have in the squad as a matter of course.

  21. WENGER MUST GO ASAP(MARCUS)

    Sep 02, 2014, 13:06 #56447

    @Bardarse how much do you want to bet that wenger will never win the premier league again?? Again let me make this ultimatum if arsenal win the pl in the next 3 years under wenger I will never post on here again. Deal??

  22. Bard

    Sep 02, 2014, 12:58 #56446

    Rocky: probably right mate, but trying to stay positive. It seems to me that something is badly wrong in the transfer dept. I do wonder seriously how much Wenger had to do with the Welbeck buy. He appears increasingly off message. Constantly telling us that we have enough strikers then goes off to a charity event on deadline day and we buy one. Not buying a Cb seems perverse to me. How much do they cost ? Very odd.

  23. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 02, 2014, 12:33 #56439

    GBP, obviously my reply has went completely over your head, no surprise there as you don't know right from wrong.

  24. Know Man

    Sep 02, 2014, 12:11 #56436

    I'm just glad we managed to keep our club captain Arteta. All the big clubs were in the hunt for him. Not. All performances thus season & at the back end of last season have been poor. We just managed to win the FA Cup after labouring to wins over Wigan & Hull. Winning it papered over the massive tactical cracks. Our football is slow, dull and predictable and it hasn't changed this season. We're weak & lack a commanding leader. Someone please put a rocket up Ozil's arse as he just doesn't look interested. Someone has to say it!!!

  25. Seven Kings Gooner

    Sep 02, 2014, 12:03 #56435

    Badarse you and I both agree on a captain, someone like Frank or Tony, the leader on the pitch. (My father always went dewy eyed at the mention of Joe Mercer) However I think again, Arsene is waiting for a leader to evolve from the current squad. A leader like Adams or McLintock - that could be a very long wait!

  26. King Jeremy

    Sep 02, 2014, 11:36 #56429

    @ Martyn - Of course it's not a Wenger signing, just as neither Ozil or Arshavin before him were. It was a calculated investment of £16m to prevent a £32m collapse in wiggy's asset value. What the hell has happened to this club?

  27. jeff wright

    Sep 02, 2014, 11:08 #56426

    Welbeck is no more a Wenger signing than Ozil was. Thes eare called 'panic buys' that happen when Wenger's claims to not needing any new signings are exposed yet again as being an illusion. Stan watched the Leicester game and along with everyone ,other than Wenger, he could see that we needed a striker. It didn't need our supporters to shout this out because it was so obvious. With City next up the panic button was pressed and Danny boy was just signed in time, the factthat the Glazer's ,Stan's big pals, needed to off-load Danny to help pay for their nre striker,also helped out.Wenger is a busted flush ,yesterday's man,k2 playing outdated football that is taking us down into midtable mediocrity.

  28. Highbury Boy

    Sep 02, 2014, 11:02 #56423

    After posting my disappointment weeks ago that we didn't sign Fabregas, even if it meant selling either Ozil or Cazorla, I thought it unfair to criticise the club and specifically Wenger about transfers until the window closed. Now I believe I can. During the window we sold 3 centre backs:. Vermaelen,Djourou and yesterday Miguel. We have bought just Chambers, a relatively inexperienced though potentially excellent right back who replaced Jenkinson as cover for Debuchy. On Sunday he was the only defender on the bench. It explained Wenger's reluctance to substitute Koscielny so early in the game. Apologists for Wenger claimed he was unlucky with injuries last season but in fact he was lucky that that the injuries were all to midfielders where we are well stocked. The sole striker Giroud got through last season unscathed as did Mertesecker and Koscielny. Last night we got an extension to secure Welbeck as an additional striker but I think the away supporters should have chanted "Sign a f***ing centre back" though it doesn't have a punchy ring to it. It is negligence to go into 4 competitions with just 6 defenders of whom Gibbs is very injury prone and young Chambers has had less than half a PL season at right back. It will be amazing if we get through the season without Ramsey filling in at right back, Flamini going back in time to left-back and Monreal or Diaby covering at centre-back. For a club with such wealth and stated aspirations it is appalling and shows that no-one has any control over Wenger who appears to enjoy this "make and mend" attitude.

  29. Martyn

    Sep 02, 2014, 10:46 #56422

    It's all rather strange. No comment from Wenger, no photo shot on the website and no comment from Welbeck himself. I know it's the international break but surely there could have been some arrangement whereby the signing is promoted to the fans. Was it a Wenger signing? I'm beginning to have doubts.

  30. KC

    Sep 02, 2014, 10:37 #56420

    It makes me smile that people are so keen to bracket supporters into this box or that box. How about some simple straight talking forget the pro or anti stuff just judge the team, window on the performance / actions etc. So far the performances have been pretty average both up front and at the back. The window from an offensive side has been pretty good, its true we have far more pace which I think is a major plus. The jury is out on Welbeck great technique, pace etc, but will he score enough goals, hopefully with a proper run at centre forward he just might, but at least in the long run Giroud, Welbeck, Sonogo Campbell as forwards makes the squad deeper although its pretty obvious had Giroud not got injured Wenger would not have bought. The major concern is the ball winning midfielder, our the lack of cover at the back, this is a major minus and I am shocked at Wenger for the failure to replace TV, we are now an injury or two away from being seriously weak, if Debuchy and one of the centre backs are missing at the same time the team will be struggling and will not be able to compete against the better teams. Its not about Wenger, I want Wenger to succeed but no man is above criticism if deserved, we are not a cult where we nod our heads at anything spoken, supporters should support and encourage but when things need to be questioned they should be, Wenger has good points but his actions in the last few transfer windows have been pretty dire. Still very concerned defensively the obvious weakness away from home (against the best) last season has not been rectified.

  31. BADARSE

    Sep 02, 2014, 10:35 #56419

    Seven Kings Gooner, such import in that last post. I would go along with your take on human nature and the way people react to pressure and other dynamics. We are at a disadvantage in what you say, perhaps why we crave a Frank McLintock, or a Tony Adams to galvanise the troops. Virtually impossible to find nowadays, you certainly can't go out and buy one. The circumstances which govern the positive applications of the two squads you mentioned are different to our position, and probably why we suffer because of it. To remedy it perhaps is easy, but if linked to an individual's approach-an extension of their personality, it wouldn't be so convenient to alter. That, beyond much of what is posted is Arsene's legacy. He is as he is, different to me, different to you, as we no doubt are perhaps different to each other-though in footballing terms we cut our teeth together at Arsenal. I think it is what you get with a marriage, and the circumstances surrounding that relationship, the good and the bad. Intriguing and interesting post all the same. maguiresbridge dishes out awards; but I would say your post is the most illuminating today.

  32. Rocky RIP

    Sep 02, 2014, 10:29 #56418

    @ Bard - you said 'I think Wenger missed a trick not getting another CB but I guess he feels Chambers is good enough to cover'. That's a huge under statement. I'm normally one of the more positive posters on here, but not signing more defensive cover is criminal. We have 6 defenders in the first team squad going in to a long, gruelling season. We are 2 (inevitable) injuries away from a defensive crisis. For a club of our size, wealth and (supposed) ambition that's simply not good enough.

  33. jeff wright

    Sep 02, 2014, 10:22 #56417

    Falaco is injury prone,right,just as well we don't have any players like him then. You couldn't make it up. The best defense dear Jamie by the way is the one that concedes the least goals.Hey it's not rocket science to work this out you know. Seeing as we were 4th in that department last season, to match our finishing league position , there is no case for claiming that we have a defence that is second to none. Especially when that defence struggled to keep a clean sheet against Palace and Leicester and conceded 6 goals at the bridge last term and other copious amounts at City ,Liverpool and Everton Of course if you live in Margate and post from Dreamland then we do have a defence second to none.But not in the real world. Welbeck is obviously an improvement on Sanagoals ,then again Big Bendy or Julian Carey would be , Danny boy is also obviously another Josh and his Pa's panic buy to try and protect their investments buy and was forced onto a reluctant away in Italy poncing about Wenger, who was claiming again on Friday and after the poor result and show at Leicester , as he did at the same point last season after the Villa game, that no new players were required and we were well stocked up with strikers and also that Diaby will soon be back . You couldn't make it up. It's this sort of nonsense though from Wenger that leads to some genius coming on here telling us not to believe in Sky news stories about new signings - and to just get behind the side like real supporters do. C'est la vie !

  34. 'Better than nothing'

    Sep 02, 2014, 10:17 #56414

    Tony Evans- I'm sure one of Wenger's disciples was just about to cite that as a major positive!

  35. Seven Kings Gooner

    Sep 02, 2014, 10:04 #56410

    Jamie - Whilst I am pleased with the DW signing and the fact we have an English core in the team, we do still fall short compared to City & Chelsea. The Chelsea & City managers are under pressure to win the PL & CL, their boards expect it and their managers strive for the major honours. This in turn hardens their players expectations to the point were finishing second will not do - and whilst money is the key difference in many ways it makes the pressure on Pellegrini and Mourinho even greater. That hunger can only be generated to the players by the manager and our players seem to be shielded from the real levels needed to win trophies. Our philosophy seems to be to encourage the players to evolve into a title winning side, it is a noble doctrine but without a "win at all costs" mantra from board level down to coaching and management staff it is bound not to succeed. At Chelsea it will be this season "win or else" and for that reason I expect them to win the title, plus they have the best tactical manager on the planet.

  36. BADARSE

    Sep 02, 2014, 9:43 #56408

    I don't go in for character assassination, as many Dark Moonies do, I don't dress up my own and very personal, (narrow) view of circumstances, but I do seek balance. In the Netherlands I spoke to some quite switched on people, some even knew a thing or two about football, it was natural that van Gaal popped into the conversation. It is only a straw poll, and quite a small one at that so must be taken with a liberal pinch of salt, (much in the Netherlands is liberal). My summary of the view of him is that he is an arrogant man, and quite old fashioned in much of what he does and says, (I think the hairstyle gives that much away). He works within fine parameters and gets the results to justify his approach. In the world cup many Dutch were horrified at his strategy, relying on a one-man approach, (I think it rested on Robben having a good tournament, or so I am led to believe). However as with most as the Dutch progressed more came on board-success does that to many, no matter how it is earned. They were left lamenting the good attempt but ultimate failure of their national team's world cup, but more importantly the death of their 'total football', heritage. Just words as Ozzie so rightly says...I told you he would understand. Nice to see you back radfordkennedy, you have been missed chum.

  37. stevo433

    Sep 02, 2014, 9:37 #56407

    Ha ha, best midfield by a country mile says some halfwit, our friends over in the West must have slipped his mind.

  38. JAMIE

    Sep 02, 2014, 9:22 #56406

    Falcao is injury prone and Manure with chocolate legs Van Persestrings could be relying on one striker before long (shrek).We having the best midfield in the Premiership by a country mile,a defence as good as any we now have a very potent forward line.Walcott,Welbeck,Sanchez, Giroud, Ox is a great frontine with Podolski, Campbell and Sonogo back up, plus Ramsey, Carzorla, Wilshire and Ozil chipping in from midfield I see a great season ahead.MARCUS-I answer all your questions as do all the so called akb's and we back them up with facts.It's the dark moonies who love to build straw men.I do admire your passion even though it's all centered on negatives,I find a lot of your posts remind me of Harry Enfield's 'self righteous brothers'sketches.Probably a bit before your time maybe you can google it on youtube.

  39. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Sep 02, 2014, 9:19 #56405

    OK so it's Wellbeck, ho hum, but at least he's English and a ready-made PL player, not a postman or someone from the Swedish 3rd division. There is still a lack of creativity in this side but at least let's get behind them.

  40. Tony Evans

    Sep 02, 2014, 9:00 #56404

    Hold on though I forgot about Diaby coming back so all is well!

  41. 'Better than nothing'

    Sep 02, 2014, 8:57 #56403

    Tony Evans- Sums it up mate, an understandable but sad use of words considering the time, opportunity and money available to Wenger. I guess we've all now become conditioned to expect him to always leave us short in various key areas so when at the last minute he marginally improves one of them we must be grateful for small mercies. All pretty dispiriting really but I'm sure when we scrape top 4 again it will be seen as a great triumph considering our thin squad.

  42. King Jeremy

    Sep 02, 2014, 8:49 #56402

    So, we spend £16m on the player United fans refer fondly to as "Wellcrap". This stinks of a Stan/Ivan deal throwing some scraps to placate the masses. Now watch Wenger stick two fingers up to the fans by playing Welbeck on the left and persiting with Sanogo. That would be just like the man. All in all, another failed transfer window. 4-way battle for 4th it is then.

  43. Westlower

    Sep 02, 2014, 8:38 #56401

    What a smart cookie, AW being in Rome while England was being brainwashed by SKY's transfer bonanza. I'd like a pound for every time the words Manchester United were mentioned. When it reached 3 times in a single sentence, I switched off. Now off to the seaside, so any abuse directed at me won't receive a reply till the morning. Have a nice day!

  44. BADARSE

    Sep 02, 2014, 8:25 #56400

    So funny, the moaners at the weekend shaped Arsene's mind. You couldn't make it up jeff wright, could you? It is painful reading posts whereby individuals are miffed because those dealing in transfers at AFC don't take them into their confidence. Then claim credit for any policy enacted. The strategies employed are not the bar room ethics some would imagine. Does anyone think it is like the old 'Corn Exchange'? "I'll bid 5 Groats a bushel.", "Foive an' a bit over 'ere!" Power to the People, but only some people, eh?

  45. Tony Evans

    Sep 02, 2014, 8:16 #56399

    I suppose Welbeck is better then nothing but I don't imagine United fans are losing much sleep over his departure - especially not with Falcao coming in. More importantly, as some of the more footballing astute amongst us have already said, where is the defensive midfielder and centre back we desperately require?

  46. GBP

    Sep 02, 2014, 8:10 #56398

    Excellent signing of DW. Young. English.Tremendous attitide on the field. Quick and under Arsenes coaching together with our midfield he will do really well i feel. He comes at the right price too. It will allow Sanchez to play his proper role and also DW knows how to support his midfield when his team is under pressure there. Hes done it so often at Utd who have had no effective middle for 2 or 3 years. All central modern day central strikers need to have this. Drogba was superb at it for Chelsea for so many years. Well done Arsene. There are many on here who wont be enamoured with your signing but as ever, youve sensibly ignored the sneering herd mentality that follows the Club.

  47. RJ

    Sep 02, 2014, 8:10 #56397

    Apologies if this has already been posted, but Danny Wellbeck's Dad, Stan, is apparently a famous mine clearance expert.

  48. Westlower

    Sep 02, 2014, 8:03 #56396

    Assuming Welbeck & Alexis are paired together up front we have a riches of playmakers supporting them until Theo's return. Ozil, Cazorla, Rosicky, Gnabry can all operate wide or in the hole behind the spearhead. Some exciting times ahead methinks! @Jeff Wright, Your catch phrase, MAKE IT UP, runs today at Goodwood 4.05. Tough race though, so you'll need to be wide awake (yawn).

  49. Smithy

    Sep 02, 2014, 7:46 #56395

    Oh no- just woken up to see no defensive midfielder signed or indeed a 4th centre back as Miguel has gone.The Arsenal injury hoodoo is bound to hit us a ct back and unfortunately Arteta,Flamini and Diaby are not in Vieras or Gilbertos class.Lessana diarra was available as a stop gap but not taken up.We continue to neglect two parts of the spine that win you things.Good luck to Danny Welbeck hopefully he can become a number 1 striker now he has the oppirtunity!

  50. Bard

    Sep 02, 2014, 7:36 #56394

    Jamie, I applaud your attempt at humour. it did make me laugh. I agree Westie, Welbeck is quick and that will suit us. Im relatively happy with that signing other than Cavanni, I would take Welbeck. I also think he will do better with our midfield. Man U dont have one. I think Wenger missed a trick not getting another CB but I guess he feels Chambers is good enough to cover. Do you think the club sent Wenger to Italy to keep him out of the way. You have top laugh at his constant denials that we didnt need a striker. Once again it seems like the fan abuse on Sat changed his mind. Signing Welbeck might just have saved his season.

  51. BADARSE

    Sep 02, 2014, 7:34 #56393

    Good morning my little bowls of Sugar Puffs, sweet but sickly, with little substance, just very 'puffed' up. Wow! I leave you alone for five minutes and you just misbehave. So much to say having read the posts. Had a rough idea of what I wanted to say but precedence has to go to westlower's last post. Falcao was never an option, his wage demands would always baulk such a move, still it takes him to lay out the numbers, and with such clarity all must see the truth. I never knew any facts, (that word is written in lower case MARCUS), but my grasp of how the world turns said it was a non-starter, anyone who mentioned Falcao should reread westlower's last post-and try to learn from it.@ MARCUS, 'AW will never win the PL again-FACT!' No my friend it is not. It is very likely, and would be due to influences at play, but is a calculated guess, not fact. Now you have had a lesson for the day, please absorb it-your posts will be greatly respected for it, if you do. Joel not given a chance yet down the middle? I can only guess, and believe Arsene thinks he is better suited to a role bringing him in from the flank, I do. Leading the line has always been a burden, leading it with the support men ten-fifteen yards behind you, and alone, is even more so-it's our style. Sanogo is raw, but thank goodness all those forming a lynch party for the young man are not running my club, it's safer having you held in a pen and whining on here. I see enough to be positive in his development at the moment, but needs shielding. Welbeck will be that shield. Joel would be massacred by the same ones slagging off Yaya. His time will come. Mandrake loved the quietness within. Finally Rocky RIP, I have brought back two pairs of clogs from Holland for our Xmas Panto, 'Table-Top' dance routine-proud to dance alongside. Lee afc and JAMIE, right alongside. jeff wright welcome back, but let's get something straight, your posts are vitriolic, laced with xenophobia, and you called me a liar. To me quite an insult. I forgive easily, never forget though. Keep it real, you are worth a place on the bench on this board.

  52. Westlower

    Sep 02, 2014, 6:25 #56392

    Our forward line just became a whole lot faster. With Theo due back shortly, a front three of Theo, Welbeck & Alexis is built for speed. Ozil really will have some moving targets to hit with his passes. With Welbeck's arrival & Campbell/Pod/Giroud/Alexis we now have 5 strikers who played in the WC. Theo would have made it 6 if he was fit. The bonus with signing Welbeck is that he qualifies as a home grown player. Frustrating we didn't sign a DM, so it'll have to be a midfield 3 of any of Arteta/Flamini/JW/Ox/Coquelin/Ramsey. Maybe Chambers will become our utility cover at CB & DM. Apparently Falcao was offered to AFC at £345,000 per week + £6m for a package of approx £24m for one season. Although the poor chap has reportedly settled for a meagre wage of £280,000 per week. CFC have 26 players out on loan, add to that their first choice 25 man squad & the enormity of beating them to the PL title is there for all to see. For all their 51 quality players they still haven't produced a home grown player since John Terry. Management by Putin's cheque book! I look forward to their demise but sadly I fear it won't be this season.

  53. Mathew

    Sep 02, 2014, 6:00 #56391

    Good luck Welbeck, hope he adds the pace required upfront. Sanchez and Campbell on the wings, Ozil, Cazorla and Ramsey to support, sounds good but not world class and not even CL worthy. But lets get behind the team, support them, cheer them and not to forget even Invincibles didnt had superstars in their team. It takes a lot of courage and conviction to support a team like Arsenal, but thats where you need fans, die-hard fans, COYG.

  54. Ozzie

    Sep 02, 2014, 2:03 #56389

    The truth is Arsenal's status has been blown out of all proportion. Wellbeck & Arsenal deserve each other & reflect the true standing of the club's ambitions. Time to bring out the best wine & celebrate each victory as though it were gold dust for we are Arsenal - an "above average" team.

  55. Hiccup

    Sep 02, 2014, 1:20 #56388

    Welbeck or no Welbeck. Until the FA allow us to pick who we play and where we play after every CL game, we can't possibly compete.

  56. Hiccup

    Sep 02, 2014, 1:07 #56387

    Quote from Jamie - "it would be foolish to buy another striker. Thankfully wenger sees through all this wob nonsense." You must feel very let down by wenger tonight Jamie? After all, spend spend spend is not the answer is it...

  57. WENGER MUST GO ASAP(MARCUS)

    Sep 02, 2014, 0:39 #56386

    JAMIE who in the hell have you destroyed?? You never argue with facts. Its always a pure and utter wenger lovefest with you. You never answer questions and always dodge them. If that is destroying someone than you clearly failed at school. What a plonker

  58. JAMIE

    Sep 02, 2014, 0:21 #56385

    It's true Lee, KC is a WOB I remember winding him up on here about a year ago definately a dark moonie now.I've never met any of these DM's who can outwit me though,they all scamper off like little girls when I get on their tails.MARCUS,Jeff Wright,Bard,maguirebridge,Tony Evans,Peter Wain,DW all have been destroyed by my superior knowledge and wit,I'm surprised they still dare show their faces.

  59. WENGER MUST GO ASAP. (MARCUS)

    Sep 02, 2014, 0:12 #56384

    So another wenger panic buy oh dear, dear. You could not make this stuff up. If this not a panic buy than I don't know what this is SHOCKING. I bet he was not even looking at welbeck two weeks ago now. Its a absolute joke. FOR 16 MILLION FOR WELBECK??????????????????. Wow, wow. So he is on the same level as Baloteli I see?? Also we let Remy go who is better than both for what 8 million?? Wenger has lost the plot and I don't think we will get top 4. I'm 100% convinced by that. Man united can not risk another season without champions league. WE WONT GET TOP 4 FOLKS!!! Also you know you have hit rock bottom as a club when folks our judging if players our good enough if they our better than sanoGOAL!!! WOW!!!. What a total shambles this is folks. We as a club have become a laughing stock. Judging whether a player is good enough or not if hes better than sanoGOAL. Wow. Im sorry I don't rate welbeck hes OF COURSE better than that wasteman sanoGOAL. What striker in the pl is not better than him?? Wenger must go for me. Hes an absolute fraud who knows hes job is for life. You know you have a cushy job when you can go to some charity match in rome. YOU CANT MAKE THIS UP FOLKS!!!

  60. N4

    Sep 02, 2014, 0:11 #56383

    3 more years of this rubbish...probably longer even after AW!

  61. CT Gooner

    Sep 01, 2014, 23:59 #56382

    @ Lee KFC Canada gooner changed his stripes two years back, he's a pure WOB now. If you guys don't want to hear negativity, don't come to the site, or don't read the posts! I don't like to hear from tori buffoons, so I don't read the telegraph...that's not rocket science pal. As for our transfer window, I'm not as disappointed as I thought I'd be. I'd give us a C. Debuchy, Chambers and Ospina are excellent replacements, though I don't think they're any better than the players they replaced. Sanchez is the dogs baws, and Welbeck is an upgrade. It's a C as Welbeck is a last day panic buy, not a player he's been tracking for years, and where is the additional CB and the nonexistent defensive midfielder??

  62. Th14afc

    Sep 01, 2014, 23:51 #56381

    We got welbeck,our prayers are answered!haha nah in fairness he's an upgrade on what we have but I'm more disappointed that no defensive mid and centre back were signed...ah well ce la vie

  63. DW Thomas

    Sep 01, 2014, 23:37 #56380

    Jamie you're having a laugh! Arsenals best ever team had at its core great French players! Who cares what their passport is. On that point i agree with Wenger, though probably nothing else. Welbeck is decent but not much better than what we have. Even Rosicky might be looking for an out as the chief wont play him either! Same Groundhog Season chasing Unicorns. This club is happy as profits are guaranteed, nothing else. Trophies are like chasing Bigfoot. Theyve become a myth!!

  64. JAMIE

    Sep 01, 2014, 23:20 #56379

    KC-Foreigners are ok yet winning the title with a mainly English team would be awesome,sod those politically correct weirdo's.

  65. Lee afc

    Sep 01, 2014, 23:13 #56378

    Thanks Jeff right. My comment at 21.34 has proved what you are. Has to have the last word and when under pressure, you have to belittle people. Au revoir.

  66. NO NO NO

    Sep 01, 2014, 23:08 #56377

    Congratulations to all the 'true' Arsenal fans on here and elsewhere that have spent the last few years encouraging the pathetically meek acceptance culture that exists amongst our fanbase, to a point where Wenger knows he can and will get away with absolutely anything, even todays depressing debacle. You'll all be singing his name again if we manage to scrape a lucky draw against Man City as Chelsea pull 6 points clear of us, won't you. Stand up and take a bow for the part you've played in our club's decline, you've all truly earned it.

  67. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 01, 2014, 23:04 #56376

    All the time that he's had and the old fraud still couldn't get it done before the deadline.

  68. Dw Thomas

    Sep 01, 2014, 22:38 #56375

    We can all go on and on about everything. Truth is Wenger should be judged on what he says and his results. So far we are average. We need reinforcing. We all know it. Even the diehard AKBs. If he doesnt get this window right, nothing will change. And that is the issue.

  69. jeff wright

    Sep 01, 2014, 22:25 #56374

    Sid,best ask lee KFC ,what do I know when he is the man in the know satisfied with Sanagoals lurching around like a donkey with a broken hind leg. The clown lee KFC will be giving it large though when Danny scores his first goal .You couldn't make it up. This signing if it takes place and it loks likely to do so, will like the Ozil one has Stan's grubby fingerprints all over it ,he heard the supporters yesterday shouting at Inspector Clueless to buy a *****ng striker and unless he needs a visit to SpecSavers then he could easily see why they were offering that advice .Wenger was not fussed of course ,but it looks like with him now on just a 3 year contract that his autocratic days at AFC are over .Nothing lasts forever in football,other than the spuds never winning the league.

  70. Lee afc

    Sep 01, 2014, 22:20 #56373

    Cheers Rocky. It's going to be difficult to pick the pantomime villain this year with so many nominees.

  71. KC

    Sep 01, 2014, 22:17 #56372

    So 50 games with 6 recognised defenders and one very injury prone. Plus why is it good that DW is English what has that got to do with it. Once someone puts on the shirt who gives a damn where he comes from it's his ability that counts nothing else.,

  72. JAMIE

    Sep 01, 2014, 22:05 #56371

    Wellbeck had his best season for a very poor Manure last year,nine goals in twenty five league games isn't bad.Our style will suit him as well,plus Woy loves him and it's good to have an English striker,It's been a while..

  73. I Wish I Could Be Sid James Everyday

    Sep 01, 2014, 22:03 #56370

    @Lee afc and jeff wright - I've got to hand it to you blokes, following the thread of your argument is a damn sight more interesting than watching Alan Smith and Neil Lennon head - nodding vacantly whilst listening to Jim Yellowtie talk fluent pony. Btw have we signed Guivarc'h yet? I'm going to lose it if we don't.

  74. Rocky RIP

    Sep 01, 2014, 21:57 #56369

    @ Lee AFC - I'm still here mate. It takes more than a couple of snide doughnuts to see me off. It is exhausting dealing with some of the consistent negativity on this supposed Arsenal site in fairness. Sometimes negativity is warranted. And I share the exasperation at the moment. Many of us are perplexed by Wenger sometimes, but when you see that it's unswerving negativity from some on here you grow to realise that it's futile responding, and take the odd break from it all. The one thing I can't stomach is the myth amongst our own fans that the FA Cup win was lucky. It's now accepted knowledge, yet those people who state it as fact can never point to a single game we didn't deserve to win or a big moment that we 'got lucky'. Anyway, The Online Gooner Christmas party certainly promises to be a lively affair this year. BADARSE, the table top awaits as ever. Ignore the undignified, charmless swipes. We need gentlemen like you on here.

  75. anti wenger

    Sep 01, 2014, 21:57 #56368

    I totally agree With Wenger, the solution is not simply to buy. Player for player, Arsenal is better than Liverpool. But they play far better than Arsenal, why? Because they simply have a better coach. The biggest problem is not on the pitch, it's on the bench. If Wenger thinks that Sanogo is better than Campbell, then his cluelessness is degenerating further than I imagined. As long as our ambition is 4th place, he's the best. But if we dare to dream of becoming title contenders again, then he should have been out like 5 years ago

  76. jeff wright

    Sep 01, 2014, 21:45 #56367

    lee KFC you popped up earlier with comments about the Welbeck story , after I said that Sky were reporting us signing him ,posting abuse at me, and then at someone else . You are obviously a complete fool living in a world of fantasy and delusion .

  77. Lee afc

    Sep 01, 2014, 21:34 #56366

    Jeff. I pop backward with the odd comment because of people like you who sadden me with your pathetic negative,anti Arsenal comments towards the club. Good people like Gare Kekeke, Canada gooner, Rocky rip have disappeared because of people like you. Every day you have an opinion that if someone disagrees, you feel the need to belittle. Marcus, the answer to your question is a categorical YES and YES.

  78. Bard

    Sep 01, 2014, 21:34 #56365

    An hour and a half to go. We seem to be in for Welbeck but what about a defender. Can he really be going into a season with only 2 CBs. Madness.

  79. jeff wright

    Sep 01, 2014, 21:19 #56364

    You can take it for what you like like lee KFC but every one knows that you vanish off here faster than a flock of seagulls who have flapped inadvertently into the Bermuda triangle after another bad result ,only to pop back up again gloating when we win. Anyone who thinks that the community shield is a real trophy doesn't know anything about football anyway.You obviously also believe any old bull that Ivan and co put out.

  80. NO NO NO

    Sep 01, 2014, 21:16 #56363

    £16m FOR ANOTHER BAMBI ON ICE. PLEASE NO.

  81. KC

    Sep 01, 2014, 21:12 #56362

    If you really want the best for this club you can not defend our pathetic amateur approach to the window. Please remember we moved to a new stadium to compete, with this squad we will not compete sad that we have funds that do not get used. Wenger said TV needed replacing, he knew he was going! sorry to the Arsenal fans that can not be honest but that is not the behaviour of a competent manager. He is to safe and that blunts his desire, if this was his first season he would behave differently. We will pay for this in the long run. It's soul destroying it really is.

  82. underacheiver

    Sep 01, 2014, 21:10 #56361

    Welbeck is a step up from sanogo and could even do a Sturridge and surprise us. I`d be happy enough and I`m a signed up AMG.

  83. Bard

    Sep 01, 2014, 21:08 #56360

    Wow what a deal for Man U. Falcao is the business have followed him for years as my wife is Colombian. Will completely change the Unt squad. Thought Untd were dead and buried but that sort of signing changes a clubs mentality. Thats Chelsea, City , Liverpool and now Untd all with better squads than our so far. How did that happen? I get a sense that there are some very unhappy Arsenal supporters around at the moment if you believe whats written on the web.

  84. WENGER MUST GO ASAP(MARCUS)

    Sep 01, 2014, 21:02 #56359

    @LEE afc what are you talking about?? We know you are a wenger lovie. So you see nothing wrong with wengers clueless tactics and naivety that's your right as a akb. So let me ask you this Lee afc. Will arsenal win the pl?? And will arsenal get 4th as per usual this season??

  85. Lee afc

    Sep 01, 2014, 20:47 #56358

    Jeff. I'll take that as a gutless no then.

  86. jeff wright

    Sep 01, 2014, 20:31 #56357

    Lee KFC words are cheap, as Arsene knows, you are fooling no one with your claims and again I reiterate,grow up and stop embarrassing yourself. Your silly Arsene obsession is laughable .Wenger is away again abroad and sees the Arsenal job as being an add-on now days to his other activities .If you are happy with his management then bully for you. Sanago leading the line for the next six months, wow! I advise you to give your bragging about yourself a rest it because just makes you look a fool .

  87. Lee afc

    Sep 01, 2014, 20:13 #56356

    Jeff. For the record. I will meet you at any game this season to correct your impression that I am not a genuine, paid up Arsenal fan/supporter. Your friend Marcus declined his take on the Rocky rip situation which I would have happily bought the man a beer before last Wednesdays game and debate his take on the Arsenal. Choice is yours Jeff. Now who is the keyboard king ehhh.

  88. Wenger does not like Capitalism

    Sep 01, 2014, 20:10 #56355

    Wenger spending the day in Rome sums it up. his way to thumb his nose at all things that make the EPL tick. he does not like the cut and thrust of the transfer window and his management and owners at Arsenal seem to be lost that the EPL is going to another level in terms of global support and merchandising now post World Cup. All clubs are reporting an increase in merchanise. the rewards are going up and up. it is time to invest and make sure you do not lose your place. The Americanisation of the EPL. we all knew it was coming. well our manager and board are getting trampled in the rush

  89. AMG

    Sep 01, 2014, 20:05 #56354

    Well it can't get much worse than Giroud and Sanogoals, at least Welbeck has pace and has prem experience. Lee ArseneFC, I think your computer is broken, it seems to be submitting the same garbled gibberish each time you post. It's like you've got the phrases 'get behind the team', 'pss off down the lane' on an autoloop, please try to be more imaginative (if you have the capacity).

  90. jeff wright

    Sep 01, 2014, 19:53 #56353

    lee KFC the only thing you get behind is your key board you have never been to an Arsenal game in your 12 years of life. . Anyway mugs Diaby will be back soon and he will be like a new signing right?

  91. Lee afc

    Sep 01, 2014, 19:33 #56352

    Hey Jeff Right. Seems as if you are wrong on the Welbeck transfer. Keep watching sky and being an armchair supporter, leave it to the gooners who actually support the club and get behind the team.

  92. FGLM

    Sep 01, 2014, 19:27 #56351

    P.S. This is for those who've actually known a proper football club (i.e. who recall the days before Wenger and Sky). Sanogo is not fit to lace the boots of John Hawley and Ray Hankin - two of the worst strikers to ever wear the shirt. I've never worked a day in football, but even I'm not stupid enough to believe that you can compete with a useless, clumsy oaf like Sanogo leading the line (he wouldn't even get scouted - let alone bought or played - by the likes of Bayern, Barca, Man U, or any of the top sides in Europ). Hell, he wouldn't even be considered by the likes of West Ham, Stoke or Burnley. Jordan Rhodes would never get a game for Arsenal, yet he's ten times the player that Sanogo is. I have got lots of things right with my football predictions, and lots of things worng as well, yet I've NEVER been as sure as I am now about the ability of a player. Almunia wasn't good enough, Aliadiere wasn't good enough (and I'm not exactly showing rocket scientist insight here), Chu-Young was a joke, but Sanogo is the biggest piece of sh@te I've ever seen in an Arsenal shirt. And which clown is responsible for picking him?

  93. I Wish I Could Be Sid James Everyday

    Sep 01, 2014, 19:22 #56350

    Haven't seen any chit - chat about another defender yet....is it too late to re - sign Silvestre? What about Gus Caesar or David Hillier, have they still got their boots?

  94. exiled&dangerous

    Sep 01, 2014, 19:20 #56349

    Some interesting comments about the ref - there I was thinking how refreshing it was to see a ref play advantage as often as he could, and let the game flow instead of blowing the whistle every thirty seconds and booking everybody in sight for breathing on an opponent. We don't want to see two-footed challenges three feet over the ball, but for feck's sake it's gone too far......

  95. FGLM

    Sep 01, 2014, 19:14 #56348

    Danny Wellbeck? Please God, NO. That's almost as bad as being consistently linked with the Chelsea reject Salomon Kalou. Wenger, you signed Henry and Eduardo, but do you actually know what makes a great striker? I dount it. It's GOALS, you numpty. Podolski has very good goalscoring record, but Wenger either refuses to play him in his proper position, or not at all. Giroud also has a good goalscoring record, but he's injured and, anyway, he's not quite good enough to be the lead striker for a top European team (that's if we actually are a top European team?). Sanchez is a brilliant world class player, but has never really been an out-and-out striker, as his goalscoring record shows. Campbell is promising - however he's NEVER been (and never will be ) prolific - and Sanogo is just a f@cking joke. He scored ten goals in 13 appearances in Ligue 2 in 2012/2013, seven of them in two games against the awesome might of relegation strugglers Laval and Tours, but (as can be evidenced by the hat-trick he got against Benfica) that doesn't mean much. My 14-year-old son would have scored those, and looked less of a clumsy ass while doing it. As someone who predicted that Chamakh would be a waste of space (also based on his pathetic goalscoring record), I can confidently predict that Danny Wellbeck would be another disaster. His goalscoring record is worse than Bendtner's for f@ck's sake. Falcao was available for a £6m loan fee, and yet he's gone to a club who aren't playing Champions League football. Why? Because the dithering, tactically clueless, outdated, arrogant and deluded old fool that Wenger has aged into is too slow, indecisive and scared to buy a proper striker and world class STAR.

  96. smithy

    Sep 01, 2014, 19:08 #56347

    I think most Arsenal fans will support Welbeck,although he is not what we would have wanted.He's no Falco but he is a step up from Sanogo.None of us know what Campbell can do as Arsene won't play him or indeed Akpom who must be better prospects at the moment.We desperately need a ct midfielder as well- no sign of that yet.Fingers crossed.

  97. NO NO NO

    Sep 01, 2014, 18:36 #56346

    PLEASE. NOT DANNY WELBECK.

  98. jeff wright

    Sep 01, 2014, 18:33 #56345

    Welbeck is a typical late Wenger trolley dash buy following on a poor result . Should be an improvement on Sanagoals though ,then again anyone would be. Welbeck is not a proficient goal scorer if he was he would still be at United.

  99. GBP

    Sep 01, 2014, 18:25 #56344

    2 points Marcus 1. Youve not and never do quote 'facts'.2. Youre very rude and like all rude people use the size of your mouth to holler the loudest hoping it shapes others opinions to yours. It doesn't and it doesn't impress either.

  100. EborGooner

    Sep 01, 2014, 18:21 #56343

    I wish I could see Arsenal in training. Sanogo MUST be comprehensively out performing the other options up front. That includes Joel Campbell who looked pretty good at the World Cup. Otherwise why does OGL continue to pick him, and not at least, give Campbell a try!

  101. Danny wellbeck

    Sep 01, 2014, 18:19 #56342

    Hello all true gooners. I will score 25 goals for you this season and my enemy Marcus will be rid of this website. Have faith in me all you W.O.B's. xxxx

  102. jeff wright

    Sep 01, 2014, 18:17 #56341

    Sky report that Welbeck is having a med at Arsenal. Looks like those cries of Sign A *****ing Striker ! Yesterday did the trick!!

  103. Guy in Jersey

    Sep 01, 2014, 17:42 #56340

    To take my mind off the lack of transfer news relating to Arsenal, I got to wondering how many hundreds of people the club supposedly employ in the pursuit of success (i.e. profits as opposed to silverware). Having recently gotten rid of redundant players such as Chu-Young and Bendtner, who else on the payroll is still under-employed? My suggestions are 1. our transfer negotiator (obviously!), 2. tactical analyst, 3. defensive coach, 4. talent scout (UK only), 5. shooting coach, 6. change management specialist. Did I miss anyone?

  104. WENGER MUST GO ASAP(MARCUS)

    Sep 01, 2014, 17:37 #56339

    Is wenger a hedge fund manager or a football manager??? Which one is it folkS?? Just astonished by hes transfer dealings over the last 10 years. Now we have the money he is still refusing to the spend THE CLUBS MONEY NOT HIS. On the right personnel. When does loyalty turn into blind loyalty?? Keown was on motd last night trying to defend wenger and got put down by everyone on the panel. Its ridiculous the sheer scrapping of the barrel akbs will go to. To defend this clown

  105. block 007

    Sep 01, 2014, 17:23 #56338

    The race for 4th place is on ...I think if we show a good spirit and mentality overall we should do it..

  106. radfordkennedy

    Sep 01, 2014, 17:04 #56337

    Afternoon all,i agree that its too soon to give up on Sanogo,but quite honestly leading the line for AFC in the PL is not where he should be right now,on loan at Brentford or Watford,the boy should be learning his trade not getting slaughtered by fans or the media.The problem as I see it is yes im pleased to see us battle and scrap for every point but running your team into the ground is something I want to see in april not august,theres only so many times scoring at the death to save a game or throwing yourself into tackles to protect a 1-0 can go on for before luck will desert you,if reinforcements are not forthcoming at CB and CF this team will be knackered by christmas,personaly I think were 2 injuries away from disaster,if Alexis and young Callum pick up hammys or calf strains we will be very short in specialist positions.I hope to God we bring at least cover in for those positions,to not use all the resources available to you to at least consolidate if not considerably strengthen is sheer madness,i shall keep my fingers crossed

  107. John Gage

    Sep 01, 2014, 16:48 #56336

    I have often wondered whether Arsene Wenger's background as a degree holder in economics from the University of Strasbourg has to some extent influenced the way he approaches the transfer market. I believe he is deeply obsessed with obtaining the absolute maximum value for money that he can and this is something that he prides himself on. I believe he would be deeply baffled by the attacks on him from the Arsenal fans on this board. In his mind by completing the transfer of Alexis Sanchez for £30 million, this should satisfy the appetite of even the most diehard Arsenal fan as he is viewing this from the point of view of an economics professor, and to him this is a vast sum of money. But as someone who knows the Cardiff manager personally, I have had to remind him that a football club is in some ways NOT a PLC and the fans are NOT shareholders. Shareholders would be satisfied with a profitable balance sheet, fans tend to look for trophies and memories of championships won. There is an emotional content to football clubs which is absent from companies and a lot depends on how you view things. For Arsene Wenger the sale of Robin Van Persie makes perfect sense as £24 million pounds for a 29 year old is good business, he is viewing it from a financial point of view (although I am not saying he wanted it) From Sir Alex Ferguson's point of view £24 million pounds was good business because he wanted to win the Premiership and RVP was the missing piece. This is because Sir Alex is viewing it as a Football manager with an eye for his place in history. I am not saying one is right or wrong it just comes down to what your aims are, in Arsene Wenger's case a football club on a firm financial footing.

  108. Hiccup

    Sep 01, 2014, 16:35 #56335

    Looks like Westie is still infected with Jamie's "make it up as you go along" bug. Last year his conspiracy was that after every CL game, the FA deliberately paired us up with a difficult game against a top 4 team. This week, having been given relegation fodder Leicester City, we're still being stitched up by the FA? The nonsense spouted on here lately supersedes some of the stuff you would expect from a 'the worlds against us' scouse fan. Still blaming the refs too, which is always a given. Just an encyclopedia of excuses.

  109. WENGER MUST GO ASAP(MARCUS)

    Sep 01, 2014, 16:33 #56334

    GBP your the one that should feel embarrassment from your deluded posts about a washed up has been in wenger. Your absolute loyalty is actually unhealthy. The man is tactically clueless and HAS TO GO!!! Now tell me whats embarrassing about me writing facts about the man?? We have city now next. Well lets see whats wenger excuse when they beat us or hammer us. Again your love for wenger is very, very strange. I take you support arsene fc and not arsenal fc?? Let me ask you this will any of our striker start for city, Chelsea, Liverpool, and now man united?? The man has to go. If that's embarrassing well thank you as it clearly is the truth. ARSENAL WILL NEVER EVER AGAIN WIN THE PL WITH WNEGER AT THE HELM. FACT!! Enjoy paying the highest ticket prices Europe let alone the UK to watch mid table dross in the likes of Giroud and SanoGOAL

  110. Peter Wain

    Sep 01, 2014, 16:22 #56333

    GBP Wait until we play the scum. Liverpool murder them and should have scored 5 I cannot see us doing that. Liverpool are trying to win the title we are not in that race and are vying for fourth at best. What is the point of the highest tickets in the premier league if they only get us Sanogo?

  111. GBP

    Sep 01, 2014, 16:15 #56332

    Marcus - when you read your posts back to yourself do you not feel at least a tinge of embarrassment? If not, you really should you know. Bard - I know what you meant and i cant see too much about Liverpool that marks them up as much better than the Arsenal to be honest. Theyve bought players for fun but have they really bought top quality? Theyve bought bodies in to cope with CL demands, of course they have, but if youre implying theyve a chance of the title with their squad, i cant really see what makes you think that in all honesty.

  112. Peter Wain

    Sep 01, 2014, 16:09 #56331

    I really fear that this is the year when our 4th place trophy is up for grabs. No defensive cover do defensive midfield player and no average striker just succession of small wingers who could do a job if pressed and a young player just about fit for the conference. Any where is OGL? In Italy not doing the job he is vastly overpaid to do. Wenger must be sacked soonest the January window is approaching and we will need to act then. I have no faith in his judgement any more.

  113. DJ

    Sep 01, 2014, 15:54 #56330

    With all the speculation about a striker it seems to be overlooked that the DM player we have been crying out for to protect our back four has gone by the wayside. I know Mr Wenger has stated that he will only buy to improve our squad but we need an enforcer in midfield.

  114. WENGER MUST GO ASAP (MARCUS)

    Sep 01, 2014, 15:52 #56329

    Oh ok clearly GBP is upset hes messiah is getting bashed looooooool. Wenger is being exposed for what he is, a has been. Real fans have woken up and our saying enough is enough!!!! Clearly folks like GBP seem oblivious to the obvious. WAKE UP!! I can bet my bottom dollar that wenger this season is going to get it big time from the fans. How can you even rate sanogoal?? or is your loyalty to your messiah that deep?? Hes washed up and tactically clueless or do you think we can win the pl as well?? hahaha city will be pumped up on Saturday. 1. To avenge their loss to us in the community shield and 2. To get back to winning ways after their loss to stoke. So what do you think will be the score line??

  115. Bard

    Sep 01, 2014, 15:38 #56328

    Gbp i was referring to our front line being championship quality not the team . Of course Liverpool would suffer if Sturridge were injured but you can bet Rodgers would buy someone as cover and wouldn't be waffling on about a Sanogo being the answer. It's not really worth comparing Arsenal and Liverpool the aims are different . Liverpool are going to give it a real go we're going to pretend to give it a go. Glad you're so certain we will get 4 th on current evidence that looks a touch optimistic

  116. GBP

    Sep 01, 2014, 15:33 #56327

    Maguire G - Your reply lacks basic sense? What on earth are you on? Get real man. Arsenal ARE NOT going to spend big on a big name striker either now or in January. Remove head from clouds. You dont have to agree with AWs or the Clubs decision but your infantile sarcasm towards Wenger is beneath any level of decency.

  117. DW Thomas

    Sep 01, 2014, 15:30 #56326

    Funny, a healthy Kallstrom might have done a job as DM, but he was too,expensive, and old, to keep! Where is Diaby, Rosicky? Why is Joel benched? How did Man U get Falcao? Why haven't we bought till now as our slow start is killing our points total? How does anyone make excuses for overpaid, pampered young men who have masseuses, all the best trainers, food, rest, etc.? Our squad is never good enough to deal with the games coming thick and fast, why? The answer to each is the chief Unicorn Hunter himself!! Arsene continues to make mistake after mistake. Tactics, nonexistent. Team play, terrible. What excuse does Ramsey have for being awful? No WC or midweek game! Sanogo. You can't be serious! Just stop, put your rational thinking cap on and compare him to Falcao, Remy, Balotelli, or any other decent forward. He doesn't even get into the top 25 list of best Prem strikers!! FFS! We are kidding ourselves that we are competing. How can you build a team to plat attacking football and NOT have a great attacker???

  118. Man United Killer

    Sep 01, 2014, 15:18 #56325

    Westlower in your first post you speak of how the midweek champions league affected the players...well hear this...you reap what you sow.as long as we make the fourth place trophy our target we will have those two game to worry about every season. I don't know what you are complaining about.

  119. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 01, 2014, 15:12 #56324

    GBP, wrong and right, it's OGL who isn't spending top lolly on strikers.

  120. GBP

    Sep 01, 2014, 15:10 #56323

    Maguiresbridge Gooner - Your repeated attempts at 'humour' fail every time. You're living testimony to the old adage that sarcasm is the last refuge of the imaginatively bankrupt.Do you have a positive bone in your body?

  121. GBP

    Sep 01, 2014, 14:57 #56322

    bARD - A bit exaggerated to say we re championship quality. The chaps we ve got secured top 4 last Season and will again so how can you square your hyberbole with that? id say as well that if Liverpool lost Sturridge to long term injury as Giroud has, they would be in a bigger mess up front. Lamberts arguably not a consistent top 4 standard player and Ballo isnt a heavy scorer. Far from it.

  122. arsenal wenger

    Sep 01, 2014, 14:50 #56321

    Hi everybody. The weather is good here in Rome today. Shall I bring back our good friend Gervinho. What do you think ?

  123. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 01, 2014, 14:50 #56320

    Peter Wain, RJ, yes apparently he's referring some charity game there's a picture of him on yahoo UK sitting at Heathrow looking lost,(just like his pet project and team yesterday) and a selection of tweets. you couldn't make it up.

  124. Bard

    Sep 01, 2014, 14:33 #56319

    So Westie which set would you rather have then? I would go for any of the others over ours but you may have seen something I haven't. With Citys rubbish frontline according to you we might turn them over when we meet. Odds on that? Top marks for loyalty Westie but even Arseblog is beginning to turn and it must be bad as he is a Wenger loyalist to his roots. Still the transfer window still open and we are capable of a rabbit out of the hat. I would prefer a top player but a rabbit will do. I wonder if Kallstrom is free.

  125. maguiresbridge gooner

    Sep 01, 2014, 14:30 #56318

    Another get out of jail card played? against the mighty Leicester, we used to beat teams like them and the others in the tunnel on the way out now a draw and a point is a good result and acceptable (to some anyway) next it'll be ah well we've only been beaten by one then two. If yesterdays performance and a few others keep being repeated we'll not have long to wait. Yes Sannogoal very well described last night by MARCUS as below crap along with the lame carthorse as crap. And yes Kev I agree it's not the lads fault it's this old fraud of a managers, and the continuation of his pet projects(to the detriment of the team) by keeping telling him he's good enough and playing him. As for breaking into the £100m pot of gold yeah right and even if he does how far into it will it be, and will it what we actually need, he'll probably sign a couple of wingers and try to convert them or some second or third raters for forty fags and tell us their top top quality.

  126. WENGER MUST GO. (MARCUS)

    Sep 01, 2014, 14:26 #56317

    @Westlower please just stop your at it again. Man united now have three world cup strikers. Falcao would have gone if he did not get injured or did you forget that smh. YOU COULD NOT MAKE THIS STUFF UP. The excuses you will go to. To defend a washed up has been tactically clueless manager is actually funny. Keep digging, keep digging. Wenger is going to get it big this season from the fans. I actually believe we wont even get top 4. City, Chelsea 100% will so that leaves arsenal, Liverpool and man united. One of those teams wont and I believe its going to be us. Just go watch arsenal fan tv and see some REAL FANS. The messiah is getting exposed now. Did you hear those chants?? We have had enough!!!

  127. Westlower

    Sep 01, 2014, 14:10 #56316

    @Bard The only club with 3 World Cup strikers on your list is Arsenal. How come both Man clubs failed to score against Burnley & Stoke at the weekend after not being involved in Europe midweek. @Peter Wain Wenger being in Italy is proof if proof were needed that Wenger isn't totally involved in transfer dealings. That's down to IG & Dick Law.

  128. Bard

    Sep 01, 2014, 13:31 #56315

    Up front so far. Man u : RVP, Rooney, Falcao, Wellbeck. City: Jovetic, Negredo, Aguero, Dzeco. Liverpool: Sturridge, Lambert, Balotteli. Arsenal: Sanogo, Campbell, Sanchez and Podolski. Chelsea: Costa, Drogba, Remy. What was that stuff about us being a top club? Our forward line would have trouble in the Championship let alone the PL.

  129. RJ

    Sep 01, 2014, 13:22 #56314

    @PEter Wain - Actual Piers Morgan was making that one up - Wenger is in fact managing a team in Rome tonight. But either way you are right that you couldn't make it up. Given we are a little short in defence, midfield and attack... Other than that we are golden.

  130. Mandrake

    Sep 01, 2014, 13:20 #56313

    MARCUS-If you would allow me, I would like to invite you into a world that I'm in, and then into a world where I would like to be in. The surplus of this thing called madness has overwhelmed me so. It has etched it's presence within the peripherals of my vision and the groundings of the world around me. I'm doing my best to refrain from the usual written prolix; my most verbose dialect that seem even ambiguous to those of a higher stature. I want you to comprehend and peradventure shed a scintilla of empathy; the bedlam that is my mind keeps attracting the mad and the sleeplessness. The monotony of repetition and the lonely nights of nostalgia. In unison, the Asylum within the corridors of mind houses such emotional consequences and dares to formulate an ominous construct; derived by the copious amount of my many iniquities. I am never at peace.Good old Arsenal. Give me a silent "dark" that coincides a placid slumber. Let me drift within the winds of a comatose state and the ringing of the Sandman within my ear; the melodies of sleep produced by nothingness. I seek such a slumber that transcends that of delving into the subconscious of the brain, but instead the subconscious to reach inside it's own subconscious. Like a dream within dream, but with no dream.How absurd.Up the Gunners

  131. Peter Wain

    Sep 01, 2014, 13:11 #56312

    Be fair Arsene is in Italy refereeing. You could not make this up!!!

  132. Jude

    Sep 01, 2014, 13:02 #56311

    No Jack to blame and no midweek exertions. What's the excuse this week for another poor performance from Ramsey?

  133. Tony Evans

    Sep 01, 2014, 13:01 #56310

    GaryGooner - your fatal error is to try and apply logic to anything Wenger does.

  134. WENGER MUST GO(MARCUS)

    Sep 01, 2014, 12:58 #56309

    I'm sorry but wenger is taking this clubs fans for a absolute joke. Its not hes money!!! Yet he refuses to spend the money on the obvious players we need. I'm now hearing manure have signed Falaco on loan for 12 million with an option to buy for 66 million WOW,WOW. I'm sooooooooooooooo angry right now I just cant stand this lanky twat. What in the hell is wrong with him?? Why is he doing this to our club?? How in the hell do you think you can iwn the league with Sanogoal and giroud who is out until January?? It just painful to take as a fan. The man should have gone after the fa cup final. He is going to get it big this season from the fans. most our now waking up as was shown with the "SIGN A F____G STIKER" chant yesterday. The fans our tired of paying the hightest ticket prices in the world. Its actually a joke. Chelsea our in London but don't pay the hightest ticket prices in the world do they. They our even in a more posh area than Islington so you cant use that excuse. WE OUR BEING MUGGED OFF!!!!!!!!. I'm tired of it and its wenger doing the mugging off. The money is there folks. We have the money. Yet one deluded washed up has been who last won the pl 10 years ago yes 10 years ago!!! refuses to invest it. Falcao for 12 million loan deal is a bargin with an option to buy wow. That is the difference from winning the league and not. I actually think we wont get top 4. Manure will be challenging for it trust me. They have got rid of the deadwood and signed some great players. Yet we at arsenal our just looking like mugs oh dear, dear. Wenger this season is going to feel it from the fans trust me. Many who have backed him for years our now waking up from that sentimental value nonsense and our venting their frustrations. Go watch arsenal fan tv and see real fans who travel to away games call the man a dictator, a fraud etc. The man thinks he is a hedge fund manager or something. ITS NOT YOUR MONEY YOU HAS BEEN!! Wenger has to go for me. He is tactically the worst manager in the pl for me. Hes stubbornness will finally bring him down this season as I believe we wont get top 4. Its a absolute joke. Just cant believe some folks still support this guy. I find it shocking. HES MUGGING YOU OFF!!! WAKE UP

  135. smee

    Sep 01, 2014, 12:58 #56308

    Over the past few seasons I have said on here that Rosicky, Koscielny and Mertesacker were good players and worth keeping even though most comments on here said they should go. But Sonogo I must agree is a total waste of time. I wouldn't even wish him on the spuds.I could never be that cruel. We are in need of a GOOD striker which we certainly do not have at the moment. As if that will happen. 4th place here we come again.

  136. KC

    Sep 01, 2014, 12:54 #56307

    The accusations that when we get a poor result we all start performing are as ignorant as they are dishonest. I have been waiting for a ball winner since Song left and a top quality striker since RVP left. We hope the team wins in the meantime because we support Arsenal, but honest people judge by the performances and the league positions then prove how good you are. Wenger wants to win the title he does not accept we are challenging for fourth. If he believes that then he has lost the plot, we can all see we are not there and do not play with the forward aggression as Liverpool, CFC and City. Most of us understand that in general you are as good as your striker(s) as Mr Henry and Mr Bergkamp proved. When games are tight you require that great piece if individuality. We also require a competent base to play from. The question which I don't require asking but others should, Are the majority of fans, the pundits including so many pro Arsenal pundits, the journalists, are they all wrong when they say we require a strong defensive shield to the back four and a quality striker to compete for the title and Wenger is right? Please try and lose the bias and judge us by our performances and so far across the 5 games we have been very disapointing and from hoping to challenge its obvious that 4th will be the best we can get. Just check the bookies for an unbias view.

  137. tpm

    Sep 01, 2014, 12:45 #56305

    how can you compare sanago to henry. henry had a decent world cup behind him, cost big money (at the time), and had shown enough to star for monaco and get a big move to juve (who were still a superpower then). sure he started slowly but he had shown how good he could be. snago was free and on the bring k of retiring and had only played at a low level. comparisons of the 2, or of sanago and anelka (who was at a big club in psg and being groomed there for stardom). are yet more claw strutching by the sheep for their messiah. pathetic. its not sanagos fault. its the mangers. never in a million years should a club of arsenals supposed size and ambitions have him as a starting striker or first reserve to giroud. there is no defence of the striker situation. everyone is laughing at it and come may, if we dont sign an improvement on sanago, then the sheep will go into hiding again as we barely scrape 4th despite ring fenced funds for transfer of 100m sitting untouched.

  138. Tony Evans

    Sep 01, 2014, 12:42 #56304

    This game highlighted all the problems - no quality target man and no quality defensive midfielder; and that's just on the pitch, before taking in to account the lack of cover at CB and worries over the left back position too. What will Wenger do about it today? F all as usual I bet . Although I suppose he might see if he can squeeze in yet another creative midfield midget as you can never have enough of those, and it doesn't matter in his mind about defence or a proper striker to hold the ball up and convert possession in to goals.

  139. GaryGooner

    Sep 01, 2014, 12:38 #56303

    I am neither a Wenger out or in person but I just cannot see the logic in not giving Joel Campbell a shot. He looked good in the world cup and has looked quite capable when in an arsenal shirt so to bring on Podolski down the middle is mind boggling. Can anyone help me out on this reasoning because I am lost with it!

  140. SilverGooner

    Sep 01, 2014, 12:32 #56301

    Why is Sanogo on work experience with us? And what is it that Wenger can see in him that we don't? He would struggle in the Championship. With Remi joining Chelski and Falcao heading to ManU, Wenger has less than 12 hours to sort out a monumental problem he should have been addressing at the end of May. I despair!!

  141. A Wenger

    Sep 01, 2014, 12:16 #56300

    "Bonjour, is this Borbeaux I'm speaking to?... Bon! Do you have any strikers I can sign in a hurry, preferably unproven, preferably crocked? Non? Are you sure, I have £100m to spend..? OK, what about youth players...? Backroom staff...? Postmen...? No never mind, I already have one of them. I'll just take another midfielder, sorry can you define 'injury prone'? Never mind, he'll do! Au Revoir!"

  142. dirkus

    Sep 01, 2014, 12:07 #56299

    "I'll only buy a better player" News flash!!! Falcao IS better than ALL our "strikers" The spine is weak and I'm not talking about the team's. We are weaker than last season.No $th place cup or lucky cup win to save this season.

  143. AMG

    Sep 01, 2014, 12:03 #56298

    RVP, Falcao, Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck vs. Sanevergoingtoscoreagoal and Lukas 'the left foot' Podolski - Says it all really!

  144. Westlower

    Sep 01, 2014, 11:38 #56297

    The other teams playing in European competition games midweek didn't fare too well either. Our neighbours being thrashed 0-3, with the advantage of playing at home. What a soft pen Liverpool were awarded, compare it with the one Cazorla should have got. Refs continue to influence the outcome of matches. Of the others who played midweek, Hull lost 2-1 at Villa & Celtic only drew with Dundee. @WEBATTD, Completely agree with about Hammond being given license to foul at will. Didn't get booked until very late in the game. Smudge overdoes the being neutral bit on TV, goes too far the other way so he isn't accused of having an Arsenal bias.

  145. jeff wright

    Sep 01, 2014, 11:20 #56296

    Westie,there was nothing logical in the claims that if you beat the small fry it doesn't matter if you lose to the big fish.For starters it is unlikely that any top side will beat all the small ones,we have already seen City lose at home to Stoke and other top sides will also drop points against lesser ones during the season. These claims about being able to drop points against the top sides was based on the United title win when they managed to do it. There were less 'top sides' then though and like their treble it was a one off thing.

  146. GBP

    Sep 01, 2014, 11:07 #56295

    A draw v a side like Leics at this stage of the season is ok. They are playing as if every game is a Cup Final and while theyre not technically gifted, passion and endeavour makes such teams hard to beat. Not that this cuts any ice with the moaners on here of course. It takes a lot of guts on Sanogos part to accept the challenge that his manager has given him.He might not make it, but he needs to be given a decent crack of the whip, not hounded out. Either way the Club isnt spending top lolly on strikers so some posters need to stop dreaming that we are. A classy and strong midfielder to stitch things together is as much needed as i see it.

  147. Westlower

    Sep 01, 2014, 11:05 #56294

    @AMG Completely agree that the burden you get from 4th is two additional fixtures in the first two weeks of the season. Have we ever witnessed Arsenal battling so hard over the two Besiktas ties, plus we ended up with 10 men in both games. It was inevitable the team were going to be jaded at Leicester. @Jeff It wasn't me who stated that as long as we beat the small teams it doesn't matter if you lose to the top 4 teams. I think you'll find that was our long departed friend Canada Gooner. Hard to disagree with his logic though because it doesn't matter where you gain points as long as gather the required amount.

  148. DJ

    Sep 01, 2014, 11:05 #56293

    Vinnie: You're right if Arsenal were a business and we were shareholders we would be having an open topped bus parade down Threadneddle Street wearing pinstripe suits instead of replica shirts. Unfortunatly, we are a football club and a bit of passion and ambition wouldn't go amiss!

  149. jeff wright

    Sep 01, 2014, 10:52 #56292

    Wenger's been typically dithering about again and missing out on signing a new experienced striker in case he stands in Sanagoals way. All of this you don't sign players just because you don't win a game is just more bullsh*t from the old master of illusion monsieur Wenger. Is this the same Wenger who went out and sgned THREE new players after the 8-2 massacre at OT ? The same Wenger that signed Ozil for 42m the dayafter the opening day3-1 defeat at home to Villa last season? Surely not! You couldn't make it up.Also yesterday Wenger again displayed his inability to think on his feet ,or when sitting down as well, when he sent dazed Koss with two staples nailed in his thick nut back on and Leicester capitalized on this by scoring from a header. Leaving the hapless Sanago on also was hardly an advertisement for suggesting that Wenger is a tactical genius. Once again more a case of him being Inspector Clueless.

  150. DJ

    Sep 01, 2014, 10:46 #56291

    So Falcao is going to Manchester Utd someone who we should have broken the bank to get. (Note not Man City or Chelsea) Anybody fancy a cheeky bid for RVP?

  151. Vinnie

    Sep 01, 2014, 10:46 #56290

    The sort of match you win if you are real title contenders. We have made some decent buys, Alexis especially but to go the extra distance to really challenge for the league or CL needs more that I think we are willing to spend. Cant fault Arsenals strategy as a business and our consistency (3rd/4th place, CL qualification) but it makes for a frustrating experience as a fan and a yearning for the old days.

  152. Peter Wain

    Sep 01, 2014, 10:42 #56289

    Falcao to united well done Wenger great dealing.

  153. King Jeremy

    Sep 01, 2014, 10:27 #56288

    @Westlower - point taken about the tough start, but this was Leicester. Any team with ambitions of top 4 let alone the title (haha!) should be taking maximum points in these kind of games. Unless there is a massive surprise today (which I very much doubt) and 2-3 additions are made to the squad, then I for one will be keeping more of an eye on Man U, Tottenham and Everton results for the rest of the season battle for 4th place.

  154. TJ

    Sep 01, 2014, 10:26 #56287

    Think about the great teams of Europe that play a lone striker; to play that role you need to be an all rounder. Giroud scores about 80% of his goals from crosses (weak from other chances) and is too slow both mentally and physically. Sanogo is an even weaker version of that. Barca have Messi, Bayern Lewandowski, Chelsea are 100% better with Costa. Benzema at RM is not exceptional but is flanked by the game's two greatest wingers. I honestly think we'll be lucky to make the top 4 again and let's face it, we were lucky Spuds collapsed when Redknapp was linked to the England job, and then lucky again when AVB overplayed them in the Europa League and lucky that Liverpool's improvement clashed with Ferguson's departure last season. As we all know, the spine of the team is too weak. A problem I worry about is who there actually is to sign as a striker now? Apart from maybe Damiao I can't see too many options left that are proper strikers. Not to defend Wenger of course, if we had bought Higuain rather than dithered this discussion wouldn't be taking place.

  155. Fozzy's mate aka turgid tikka takka

    Sep 01, 2014, 10:14 #56286

    I hoped that batterings taken by us last year, Barcelona and Bayern in Euorpe and Spain in the world cup would against fast breaking teams would spell the ned of TTT. However I was sadly mistaken as an average side like Everton (for 80 mins) an one that will be relegation threatened in Leicester exploited its weaknesses. Of course the lack of a decent front man is worrying but more worrying is the lethergy and lack of urgency and intensity in each game. Lets hope we inject some either in adding to what we have or through the dreaded internal solution!

  156. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Sep 01, 2014, 10:04 #56285

    Anyone still think Sanogo will make the grade? He has no first touch, no awareness other than to win headers and try to bring others into play - which didn't work yesterday. It felt like a defeat. PS I was disgusted with Ex-Gunner Alan Smith's commentary on Sky - their player Schlupp quite clearly took Koscienly out and Hammond spent the game fouling people but according to Smith, they were "committed to the challenge". Having said that at least the team stood up and fought it out yesterday unlike some of those gutless away performances of days past.

  157. don froth

    Sep 01, 2014, 10:01 #56284

    Westlower, what world are you in? Sanogo does not even look like a player, that touch alone would take years to develop, the poor lad works his socks off but technically he will never be good enough.....wake up!

  158. Rob

    Sep 01, 2014, 9:59 #56283

    On that showing they will struggle to make top 4. As you said it's not Sanogo's fault. He did his best and he didn't pick himself. Surely Wenger has to sign a CD after TV's departure ? Surely he must do that as the minimum ?? Beyond that I am far from hopeful although this young French lad from PSG looks to have something about him. If we got Falcao in I'd feel like doing a somersault. But I can't see it. And I suspect it's the 4th placed Cup race for us again. We are way behind Chelsea and City as it stands. And from what I saw yesterday, Liverpool would stuff us to.

  159. AMG

    Sep 01, 2014, 9:52 #56282

    Westie - Tough starts are less frequent when you finish 3rd or above. Poor match, poor management, no surprise.

  160. Westlower

    Sep 01, 2014, 9:46 #56281

    Over analysis & toys thrown from prams always follows a disappointing result. Not enough credence is given to the tough start we've had to the season. Five physically hard games in a fortnight is not the ideal way to start the season. Both away games following CL games midweek (how many other teams does that happen to?) + travel to Turkey. With others returning from the WC it's some achievement we remain unbeaten. We could easily have lost at both Everton & Leicester but we didn't. On another day, with a different ref to Anthony Taylor, Cazorla would have been awarded a penalty. Ramsey had his worst game for some time, ironic as he was 'rested' from midweek. If only he had headed across the goal to an unmarked Sanogo we may have been hailing Yaya for scoring the winning goal. For all his obvious faults I believe we should continue to develop Sanogo in Capital One games & substitute appearances. Because of his inexperience & good work ethic he will improve over time. He has been pushed forward prematurely due to Giroud's absence. The pair of them playing together would have helped Sanogo. Not many believed Henry was ever going to make the grade as he was weak & ineffectual in his early days. We await with interest what develops during the day. Personally I'd settle for a quality player in the Flamini role. If all else fails get rid of Badarse & myself & watch AFC improve overnight!

  161. Reg

    Sep 01, 2014, 9:39 #56280

    Two up front but you know Clouseau never will! Wake me up in 2017

  162. Jezzer

    Sep 01, 2014, 9:28 #56279

    Most people could have worked out that changes were needed during the second half when the pattern of the game stayed the same . What was the point of leaving it until 9 minutes before the end to make those changes. Even top world class players would find it difficult to influence a match in that space of time, Podolski has not played a game for months so a real poor management decision. If you add in the dubious team selection and failing to immediately take off Koscielny after an horrendous head injury the manager had as poorer a game as the team did. Lets hope he can make amends today on deadline day ... somehow I don't think that will happen.

  163. GoonerRon

    Sep 01, 2014, 7:50 #56278

    I half expected a match like this after the energy-sapper in midweek and watching Leicester's high tempo approach to games against Everton and Chelsea too - just a shame we couldn't find that bit of incision to get the win. I don't think Sanogo played half as bad as people are making out - yes his very first touch of the game was woeful but I can remember numerous occasions when we controlled balls into feet and laid it off to a team mate - there's a distinct lack of balance here. As for his shot that Schmeichel saved, if he had tried a dinked finish that didn't come off people would have been whining that he didn't just put his foot through it. Look, I don't think Sanogo is the answer as a first choice striker but people need to have a bit of balance - at the moment he'd need to score a hat trick and have numerous assists in a game just to get 7/10 in some people's eyes. Big day today, CB cover is an absolute must.