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1. goonercolesyboy

   Apr 07, 2015, 0:11 #69608

   So what's your gripe Nick, that you can't get tickets together or can't afford them or both? Minimum wage has always been around, but all seating hasn't. In those pre Heysel days of course more kids got in, but times have changed. Keep your membership and if as some predict on here tickets become available then bingo, in you go. But seeing as that isn't happening anytime soon I wish you and your family luck.

2. jjetplane

   Apr 05, 2015, 11:57 #69537

   Well said Nick but you will always get defenders of the faith coming on here boasting about their own material activities with no interest or compassion for what football is about for the average supporter. Onward with the true Arsenal supporters and you sound like a great example.

3. Nick

   Apr 05, 2015, 11:33 #69536

   Goonerscloyboy , unfounded my arse !! You cannot get a plus one for a junior gunner , it may also be possible with luck or enough money to but tickets together but it I certainly not a given , I was not talking about sth but red and junior gunner members. I was taken to my first game as a five year old when it was first come first served, so was my son and so was my grandson who is now a junior gunner ss will his brother be next season, but the amount.of games I and their parents can take them to pales into insignificance to when I was a kid , it is undoubtedly an expensive past time now, and there are probably more who have been priced out of going than those who can afford it, and we WILL lose many kids to this pricing policy of greed , we've already lost much of the atmosphere, and also imagination with the songs sung at games many of which are just recycled chants sung by all supporters everywhere , all this will do nothing to encourage new young support, there will be many Arsenal supporters on minimum wage with families it is amongst these folk where the support will be lost , if you think differently that's your prerogative but your wrong !

4. jjetplane

   Apr 05, 2015, 11:15 #69534

   I have no wish to ever go there! What's your excuse apart from crowing on here once in a 'blue moon.'?

5. Ozzie

   Apr 05, 2015, 6:29 #69527

   Good win - just as I predicted - a goalfest - but more even scoresheet. Hurry back Ox - miss you. Go you Gooners!!!

6. Julesd

   Apr 05, 2015, 5:54 #69526

   JJJetplane - Just like you were no doubt!!!

7. maguiresbridge gooner

   Apr 04, 2015, 20:58 #69524

   Hiccup, indeed, those damm referees, they really cost Liverpool and Brenda today.

8. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

   Apr 04, 2015, 20:34 #69522

   Great win today. Right, that's the bin dippers taken care of. Now to get second place and a Cup win.

9. Hiccup

   Apr 04, 2015, 20:00 #69520

   Hats off to the team. Surely the bookies are paying out now with mission accomplished first week in April. No last game of the season nerves to endure. Eggs and reversing cars as progress is quantified. Today's results throw a spanner in the works for sky as the great build up of finishing 4th looks dead in the water. Will they promote the race for a Europa place, where 7th will probably be enough to qualify? I doubt it. Focus will be on whether leicester or sunderland can stay up. Not for the privilege of playing in the top flight, but how much money it will be worth. Let's just hope poor refereeing doesn't decide their fates, like it has Arsenal's for the last ten years.

10. Bard

    Apr 04, 2015, 19:04 #69519

    Fantastic win, always enjoy Liverpool getting stuffed. Bellerin the find of the our season along with Coquelin. Sorry to disappoint you Jules but enjoyed it immensely however one swallow doesnt make a summer. If we win something substantial I can assure I will repent but right now having too much fun ribbing my scouser mates.

11. jjetplane

    Apr 04, 2015, 18:58 #69518

    Come on Charlie Adams - that's where the fun is! Coquelin has saved Wenger's season. Period. Would be nice to see a serious Chelski wobble but has Wenger the mind set for something beyond runner's up which would be classed as a marked improvement over a decade's worth of top 4 scrape ins. There are Some good players at Arsenal but a top coach and not someone who wins manager of the month once in a 'blue moon' (more fun there!) is still the ticket to bring some of these players up to the next level. That is yop top top exhibition football inna Europa stylee - you get me blud ..... Well done Millwall - keep going ....

12. goonercolesyboy

    Apr 04, 2015, 17:42 #69516

    Nick, your comments are unfounded. This not able to take my son bit and losing the next generation is unproven. At Highbury there was a junior gunners area below the East stand but that was it. When there were terracing then loads of kids could go but since Heysel then the opportunities have diminished and costs have risen. There are quite a number of kids with parents in my area so don't think they don't go or are priced out. I suggest you study the fans that go and trust me they are not the non working class that some on here are touting as the majority.

13. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 04, 2015, 17:34 #69515

    We must have won.

14. jjetplane

    Apr 04, 2015, 17:09 #69514

    Bet you were there as well giving it the full voice! Lol!

15. julesd

    Apr 04, 2015, 16:03 #69512

    Hello! Oh dear, you negative, cynical WOB's have taken a hell of a beating today. PL Manager & Player of the month have done it again. Come join the Arsenal party & repent before it's too late to save your miserable souls. Need a pair of binoculars to see where our neighbours are in the table.

16. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 04, 2015, 13:21 #69509

    Bard, so true.

17. Nick

    Apr 04, 2015, 10:27 #69508

    Read more comments since I posted mine and was not surprised to note the apathetic content of most, " what's the point?" " protests a waste of time" most cry, oh and the bloke cracking.on about his extravagant Friday night choice of wine, to justify " reasonable" ticket prices , which was ridiculous because cost is relative, someone who can afford over a hundred quid for a bottle of rotted grapes, obviously has no beef with prices. Football used to be the game of the common people,fathers could take sons and stand or sit together at matches for a price that was not going to hurt,we will lose generations of supporters due to the pricing AND selling.policies, where a kid can get a ticket but his dad cant or at least not one near his child. The " good old days " are never what we remember them.as but in this instance we have an exception to that rule in one respect at least, but don't bother yourselves, just suck it up, shape up or ship out, like it or lump it , the apathy on here and the I'm all right jack attitude of some probably reflects our society in general , damm shame !

18. Nick

    Apr 04, 2015, 10:11 #69507

    The clubs pricing policy and the sheer stupidity and unfairness of junior gunners not bring allowed a plus one will bite the club on the arse in the future when a new generation is lost to them through short term greed! I'm a red member, my mate was a silver though we both joined at the same time, he was upgraded I was not, although I pay by direct debit and he doesn't, his elevation to silver did not do him any favours as although he could apply earlier for tickets this meant we could both go, perhaps, but certainly not sit together, the upshot ? He cancelled his membership and signed back up to red. Match day protests will only be effective if done enmasse INSIDE the ground in front of watching cameras, at a prearranged time, perhaps an online petition available on social media would help too, if enough could be bothered to sign , apathy is the enemy here , do something! Email the club , post on twitter, facebook etc even WRITE to Gazidis or wiggy himself , only sitting on our arses, moaning, complaining among ourselves will not help the situation , a constant barrage of protest will surely have some effect , if we do nothing in the end the game will die, it will take a long time but it will die in the end when the tv money dries up because the product they are touting has no atmosphere but the polite clapping of a subdued outside court at queens club , and has lost its appeal to the viewer , it will happen just not yet .

19. Paul

    Apr 04, 2015, 10:09 #69506

    Those of us who are not from the UK, is there an option to support such movements via the internet? Can you have a vote bank to support such a cause? I am hoping I will watch a match at The Emirates in the future but will happily contribute now :)

20. Bard

    Apr 04, 2015, 9:18 #69504

    Had a bad night Tony Pepe ? Talk to me. I might be able to help. Insults are the last resort of the man with no arguments. If true Arsenal fans view player of the month or manager of the month as the sum total of their ambition then yes its a sad indictment of the mediocrity that pervades the club.

21. Ron

    Apr 04, 2015, 8:13 #69503

    Morning Jamie - ill have a go at poor performances, never just because we lose. Theres a massive difference. in nigh on 50 yrs of following us, there have been enough catastrophes, poor performances and defeats so a loss isnt a problem to me Jamie. Win lose or draw im more or less indifferent to it these days but still have a good away day out, even when we get trounced. In my post im just calling it as it is at home games and if you re an 'Emirates experience' regular you ll know that what im saying is right however uncomfortable the truth is for you to bear. PS 2- 0 to the Arse today anyway!

22. Tony pepe

    Apr 03, 2015, 20:04 #69498

    Well done bard.....typical idiotic, attempt at the dumbing down of the once, so called Arsenal fan. Stick to chess stupid.

23. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 03, 2015, 17:33 #69497

    Bard, they'll be celebrating those awards no ends up at AKB central command tonight, and for getting knocked out of a competition too.

24. Bard

    Apr 03, 2015, 16:54 #69496

    Julesd are those trophies rather like the 4th place one? How are we doing with the big ones, my minds gone a blank on that one?

25. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 03, 2015, 16:41 #69495

    Hiccup, and they'll be wearing masks at that too. Ron, some already do write a thesis mate, only it's unreadable gobbledegook.

26. Ron

    Apr 03, 2015, 16:41 #69494

    JJ - Oooh mate. Antony Cher - what a Falstaff that man is!! In Warwick tomorrow. Hes in Death of a Salesman. Millar - brilliant as im sure you dont need me to tell you that.

27. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 03, 2015, 16:28 #69493

    jj, great post, and at least if youwe go to next or river island we've got something to show for it.

28. jjetplane

    Apr 03, 2015, 16:21 #69492

    HICCUP hear you mate and I'm thinking of doing the same at The Mousetrap FC. When was the last time you ever saw a theatre group (apart from Barcelona) win the CL? Money gabbers aaah RON had some great times at Stratford watching our BARD no less. Was there for a standing room only of Richard the Car Park Attendant with Antony Sher. The Tempest too - great times and a bit of boating too! So JAMErSON loves Arsenal (American Stan) Idol. Do you drink that gutrot every friday night and then the WOK sundays/mondays. You cultured so and so. Now Gambon in Miller's View from a Bridge (third row half price) .. JULESD shows what a league it is now with carthorse of the month trophies. If they get 4th that will make errr 3 trophies with top top coach (joke) getting his posh bottle - throw in the FA CUP again (yawn) and what a season with Diaby on a new contract and Theo happy to play for a place if he could please just have 170 thou a week boss? ... Wonder what Giroud must be worth a week now? ... so many questions and not enough matches ...

29. Ron

    Apr 03, 2015, 16:15 #69491

    JJ - there are many who go to see these so called top echelon clubs in that PL because they feel its the thing to do and to be seen to do it, rather than it being a genuine desire to be a real football club supporter. Its kind of an emblem of their persona, 'im an Arse fan' or im a Utd fan etc but with no fabric, no roots in football for the people concerned. This is accompanied by a 'need' to win every game. Not a hoped for win, its a real need. To lose doesnt fit the image they want to portray. Its not cool to lose and doesnt sustain the snobbery of being 'an Arsenal fan'. Im sure one day some body will write a thesis about the psychology of the modern football 'customer'. It will reveal much im sure. In the meantime Arsenal milk these types and need them badly. Those PL games now at these stadiums of those Clubs of which Arsenal is but one of course, offer little opportunity for fan camaraderie and thats why many have dumped it. As often as not a few guys going together can have a pint pre game and then end up all over the ground in different seats at different ends of the ground. AFC cdt care less. Heaven forbid you end up mid way to high up in those top tiers at Arsenal. Theres more noise and more thrills in a CO OP funeral parlour than up there. The pitch may as well be in South London though, its so remote and physically distant!Talk about the 'chattering classes'gathering together.Oh dear me. The game passes so many by and i was often sure a good many wdt have known the score at the end if asked! Not sure many actually cared either to be honest. Such is the marketing of football now, being seen to be in the circus has replaced genuinely following yr chosen Club. A couple of blokes i know have 4 club level seats and they go there for 6-7 home games tops per season with their 2 Chelsea fan friends who attend at AFC more than they do the Bridge, both who who go hoping to see an arse defeat as they quietly chunter and mumble through the game how its far better at the Bridge. When they dont go, the seats are used by estate agents and surveyors who go for business meets, none of who follow the Arse. Its not just Club level, i know for certain that many in the upper tiers arent deep felt gunners fans and are there only as result of having been given tickets as freebies. AFC couldnt care a hoot. this demo thing wont raise a ripple among a sizable proportion of that crowd there v Liverpool as they dont pay anyway! Im sort of as bad as i only do the 4 or 5 away games that i do if its comes free or as a cut price ticket.Then again, many of the away fans are doing the same too. And they wonder why these stadiums are like morgues! The mid table and lower end Clubs are still different but such a mentality has crept in amongst them too. At some stage in the future the chickens will come home to roost for these grasping Clubs who vie for that over blown and over rated ECL place each yr. Not sure how many real fans with the desire to see football and support these Clubs will be bothered by then though.

30. Torbay gooner

    Apr 03, 2015, 15:59 #69490

    Hello Ron, yes the amount of games that team played were staggering in those cup runs. What would we not give for a Jennings and Talbot in this current team!! Dartmouth is very pleasant indeed and hope to get down there during that period myself.

31. Hiccup

    Apr 03, 2015, 15:43 #69489

    jj, you can bet your bottom dollar that scouse fans will be saying Sterling can **** off and they don't need mercenary twats like him. However, if they meet his demands and he stays they'll all be deliriously happy that he's staying. Let's hope he doesn't come to arsenal, otherwise the arsenal mercenary police fans will be out in force, not!

32. Hiccup

    Apr 03, 2015, 15:26 #69488

    This protesting malarkey is a by product from modern day society issues. I find myself in a similar situation, in that I have purchased tickets for this weekends Phantom Of The Opera showing. Cost a bloody fortune. Up there with the price of an arsenal ticket. Many culture vultures like myself are being priced out of this form of entertainment. I have arranged a protest with other theatre goers outside the entrance, and will boycott the first scene. To get my point across, I intend on heckling and unfurling a giant banner during the show, that theatre without an audience is nothing. I know the show sells out, and always will, so I'm not too sure what this banner means, but it looks good. I suppose I could man up and refuse to go if I think they're taking the piss, but that would mean sticking to principles.

33. Ron

    Apr 03, 2015, 14:48 #69487

    Torbay - hi mate. Yes, Sunderland, Rix, Brady O Leary Stapleton Talbot Jennings McDonald and Co. Loved em i did. These fans today make me smile raving about the walcotts and Wellbecks ... i know we are all fans of our time etc but i fel that 5-6 of Terry s team in the modern game would oust this feeble lot today. Better footballers physically and technically too in my view. PS love yr neck of the woods. I get down to Dartmouth quite often and am there again in July!! Lovely.

34. julesd

    Apr 03, 2015, 14:21 #69486

    PL Manager of the month: Arsene Wenger. PL Player of the month: Oliver Giroud. Eat your hearts out WOB's.

35. Torbay gooner

    Apr 03, 2015, 14:02 #69485

    Ron, I loved that late seventies cup team too, real battlers. I still have a Birthday card, signed by the 79' team and my dear mum received a letter signed by Terry Neill enclosing that card. I was coming up to 15 and she wrote to the club asking if they would do that for my Birthday. Somehow don't think that would happen now!!! Or maybe it would albeit for a large financial contribution to the cub!

36. jjetplane

    Apr 03, 2015, 13:52 #69484

    I love listening to the MUGS defending the new virtual Arsenal. It is obvious in their posts they are not really enjoying the experience but think that being in the loop is the end and be all to having 'the good life.' Who would want to go back to rubbish exhibition football played for solely corporate reasons. I have been away for that Tat for so long it is laughable but MUGS is the right word if you are propping up the likes of Walcott, Diaby, Arteta, Ozil and the other liggers because the imagination is not there to spend your money on something interesting. A night in a South Bank theatre would be a start ... Mind you - when I was a regular theatre goer you could get reasonable half price deals on most days and my last ST was under 400 squid (and that was a piss take). Won't it be fun if that is what happens down the Holloway Road. This weekend I hope to catch the second half of the WOK game if work permits. The only build up to the game is how much two twats want a week in their bank accounts. And people want to watch that? it is becoming like golf, boxing, racing and everything in a corporate swathe. Supporting teams is a meaningless exercise now and is looking like do I go to Next or maybe River Island. They are all the same and there is little to choose between Arsenal and the Spuds as an example. Some just spend more than others. The idea of either having a snooze on the couch on a sunday afternoon and going to the WOK is a no contest. Give me that sofa and perhaps a bit of audio wallpaper from the radio. Ps I am one happy football supporter and the bank holiday derby is warming up nicely with our manager stating 'I will drop the whole team and put the reserves out...' We lost to the bottom club mid week due to complacency and thinkg the job done. Even happens at the bottom where there is no money but somehow it feels more like the game KIDS know and love.

37. Ron

    Apr 03, 2015, 13:36 #69483

    colesboy - if you read my post you ll see m talking about PL football generally in so far as how i see its quality was and has fallen. As a fan, my favourite times were firstly the late 70s early 80s under Neill and the mid to late 80s under George. AFC was still a football Club then. Unlike many who were frustrated by our Div 1 form under Neill, i loved his Cup teams and went to all 3 finals though accept we had great players who certainly underachieved in those days. Note yr theory re Cat A games. Id defy you to name one truly great game at the Grove v a Cat A opponent. I can only thnkm of 2 that are sort of memorable. The 4-4 v Spurs in 08 and the 2-1 v Utd in 07, though neither were classics, The 4-4 was just a typical Wenger team bottle job collapse as it got drunk on its own arrogance and the Utd win was quite good as it was a rare win v them when really they ought to have had the game put to bed by half time until Nasri struck later on. Im a keen Shakespeare fan and often get to the RSC in Warwick. For less than 60 quid per person i can buy a theatre ticket and an excellent pre theatre meal and drink. i can be there for 5 hours or so to do that, good company, great ambience, the very best in professionalism by the performers is guaranteed and not one belching foul mouthed oaf anywhere near, nobody's farts wafting repeatedly past and certainly no feeling of 'why did i bother' after being there. Those prices for football at Arsenal are a joke by comparison and for me personally we could have a winning successful team and i wouldn't change my view.

38. Lynn M

    Apr 03, 2015, 13:29 #69482

    Good luck from the other side of the pond. #Gunner4Life #AFCvLIV

39. Torbay gooner

    Apr 03, 2015, 13:18 #69481

    Good luck with the protest! Even if money was no object I would not pay anything close to £64 to watch a football match. Mind you I would not pay £18 to watch a local(Torquay) match either, as the standard is dreadful. Got talking to a cab driver in Lisbon a few weeks back and he pays on average 20 euros to watch Benfica play, which sounded reasonable. He could not believe it when I told him Arsenal's prices. I see sky have been up to their usual tricks and have moved some fixtures from the weekend to Monday night just to alienate a few more fans!

40. goonercolesyboy

    Apr 03, 2015, 11:24 #69480

    Apologies Red member, that last comment was meant for Ron.

41. goonercolesyboy

    Apr 03, 2015, 11:13 #69479

    Red Member, do you really think people not showing for category A games will make a difference? They are after all in theory the better matches. Think again. It has gone so far now that you either accept it or move on, and for those moving on, good luck getting back involved again. If you go out anywhere nowadays £60 is nothing for a night out, drinks or dinner or the theatre. This is the modern world. Interesting that your favourite times were during our golden years....enough said.

42. Red Member

    Apr 03, 2015, 10:35 #69478

    Ha Ha this is the most pointless demo I have ever heard about. People protesting about expensive tickets THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY BOUGHT!!!!Since the move to the Emirates I have boycotted all category A games (apart from one - I realised then that I was being taken for a complete mug) and don't regret it at all. Ok I have missed all of the big games but if everyone had taken my stance then the club would not be charging so much for those games in the first place.

43. Finsbury Joe

    Apr 03, 2015, 0:05 #69477

    Erm.......how do you think a limited manager like Wenger is going to acheive anything resembling success without spending vast sums, let's face it Stan is not going to hand him this money on a plate is he. So it has to come from the paying fans, amongst other things. You want success, which in Wengers world is top four, you have to pay for it, unless you get owners like City have. Here endeth the lesson.

44. Ron

    Apr 03, 2015, 0:02 #69476

    Coleseyboy - correct, of course its not going to happen in numbers. Its just my idealistic view. It matters not to me now. I don't go to Arsenal home games anymore and aren't likely to now. Again, personally speaking i find Arsenal stadium one of the least edifying, stunted and least atmospheric grounds to visit and ive been to all of them in that EPL save for Loftus Road, many, many times down the years. Similarly, i have the personal view that to pay anything over 20 quid for a football match, esp of the low standard the EPL offers up is the sum paid by a mug. Sorry if that offends, but to be clear and if it helps, i was a mug for long enough paying the prevailing price to go. If they were honest, those that do go, if asked if they felt they'd had value for money would admit they hadn't and that the experience wasnt a particularly up lifting one. Its a question of preference of course, but for me football has been replaced by quite a few other things gradually in the last decade. i personally think the high water mark for the EPL was in the period 1999 - 2006. Fron then on its been a gradual fall in standard and it fell markedly from 2009 to its present humdrum mediocre standard. Jamie - that last post is perhaps you in yr silliest mode. There are a few players mentioned there who im truly glad indeed im not paying to see with any regularity.

45. goonercolesyboy

    Apr 02, 2015, 22:17 #69475

    Ron, you are entitled to your opinion, but the fans who go are not mugs, they want to go and are prepared to pay. This idea of not going, turn in your season ticket is not going to happen in the numbers you hope for. Don't think a crowd protesting this Saturday or any match day is going to make a blind bit of difference., for what you hope for. What is your fair price then for a ticket? And if that were to happen the demand for tickets would increase and you wouldn't get a sniff of a ticket, and then the economics would kick in again and the prices would go back up. It's too late for any radical,price changes the way I see it apart from away fans and as those numbers are no more than 3000, that Impact won't have a detrimental effect on any clubs finances.

46. Ron

    Apr 02, 2015, 21:46 #69474

    Shouldn't be any Cat a b or c etc Jamie. The principle of that is a rip off just like AFC and football in general. Those who go are being had for the mugs they are. Its fine for the wealthy mugs, theyre mugs, know it and accept it, The not so well off are the ones being fooled. The game needs the fans. The fans are too daft to realize their own power in numbers. Jack in the season tickets and see the price fall significantly. These clubs can function without fans turning up in reality. The TV cash flow sees to that. The TV wont back it though if the grounds are half empty and silent save for the players voices. The fans have more strength than the TV companies who are just fickle and they ll drop it once the imagery of it is badly tarnished. The fans need to act with strength, a moan and a walk down Holloway Road and then 10 mins late into the stadium is just paying lip service to demonstration. Its next to useless in truth, though just about better than nothing. Big Andy has hit the nail on the head but its a far from reversible situation. Stopping going is the only method that will work.

47. John F

    Apr 02, 2015, 21:34 #69473

    I am glad I read Richards and AGs post as I was thinking of signing my youngest up for the junior gunners before he gets influenced by the Hull tigers(I live near Hull).Sounds like it would be a waste of time.Ive got him an Arsenal top,I whisper in his ear Arsenal every night whist he is asleep.I have even used flash cards but the other day he asked for a Hull city top luckily I faked a heart attack and he forgot. At least my 22yr old keeps the faith although he can't afford to go.Great read the 250 Gooner edition this month especially the Alan Smith interview.

48. Big Andy

    Apr 02, 2015, 20:15 #69471

    Protests are just a complete waste of time. Professional football is now just a big, ugly, greedy monster which doesn't give a stuff about real fans. Asking for 64 quid to watch a game is a scandal. That's why I don't go any more.

49. Aylesbury Gooner

    Apr 02, 2015, 20:07 #69470

    In same boat as you Richard and don't really know if there's a solution and yes its a struggle to get tickets together in the junior gunners section if you have red membership.Maybe a return to standing sections would improve matters but can't see that happening anytime soon.Ive been a red member for quite a few years now and not had a sniff of silver membership,think my son will get that before me and onthe season ticket waiting list.Anyway had a phone call earlier this week from the box office and how they have cleansed the waiting list (nice word to use not)and where enquiring if i am still interested in staying on the list as i could get a ticket within the next couple of seasons,decided to stay on it more so for my son then me.Anyway hope the protest goes well and gets the publicity it deserves but don't hold your breath.

50. Bounds Green Gooner

    Apr 02, 2015, 19:54 #69469

    So protest at the armoury, then walk into the ground? Another LOL protest. The only way the clubs will listen is if we vote with our feet and don't turn up.

51. goonercolesyboy

    Apr 02, 2015, 19:08 #69468

    I too don't spend a penny when at home, always have a few beers when away pre game. Nearly always eat a steak sandwich and have a roadie on the way home. My ticket was just over a grand this year and will be a bit more next year due to the cup home draws. That is my choice and I accept it as the norm. I also remember the time I bought a ticket for the league cup semi final at the Lane for 30p and was happy to tell everyone on the bus on the way home. Those days are well and truly gone, never to return. We can talk about this til we are blue in the face but nothing will change, so,protest or not, this is it, accept or move on. I accepted a long time ago.

52. jjetplane

    Apr 02, 2015, 19:02 #69467

    I spend six to fifteen (rarely) quid to watch a 'football game.' I imagine soft protests like the above will be shown as the media/s promote their 'democracy and we are listening' philosophy while shipping the sacks of dosh offshore. I left it all behind when Highbury turned into a gated community and even if i had the cash I would not pay anyone 64 quid to watch a bunch of overpaid disinterested wankers put on a quasi-friendly exhibition in the name of Football. To each his own but shall be watching a promising derby game on Easter Monday for the princely sum of 6 quid after I finish a job get over there on my bike. Like the 60s all over again! Lol! **** the PL! and I now hardly even bother with MOTD (never on a saturday!) or match reports but love media that supports my decision to turn my back on a model that is killing football wholesale.

53. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 02, 2015, 18:58 #69466

    Smithy, that'll soon change when OGL gets at them again and has them all running around cones and practising tippy tappy.

54. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 02, 2015, 18:48 #69465

    Captain Frank, to be fair I wasn't referring to just yourself but to everyone, and like your self on my last outings haven't spent a penny inside the ground and prefer to buy my beer and food before and after and yes it's tastes a hell of a lot better. I take your point it's better being there protesting than not regardless for all the good it's going to do. I hope to be back enjoying Arsenal and the football like I used to myself sometime when changes do come, but regardless of these protests for this particular cause I doubt very much it's going to be any cheaper.

55. Bard

    Apr 02, 2015, 18:41 #69464

    Its a good idea and will no doubt make us all feel a little better but Im afraid I agree with Colseyboys the horse has already bolted. We can moan all we like but there is no going back. Take a look at some of the some of the salaries baseball players and basketball players get, they dwarf anything Ronaldo or Messi earn. This is where its heading. The painful truth is that the cubs dont need us anymore. Its encapsulated on a micro level in the Sterling wrangle. He's on £35,000 a week and probably wants £150,000. Is it greedy or is it the going rate for a talented boy? Liverpool will capitulate or lose him as Ferguson did over Rooney. I will go along but only because my heart often rules my head.

56. Roy

    Apr 02, 2015, 18:17 #69463

    I am one of the 'priced outs'. I'll be there.

57. radfordkennedy

    Apr 02, 2015, 18:03 #69462

    Great idea and better than nothing as someone said,but I can't help feeling the club won't give a toss ur not protesting in the ground,no-one will see or hear anything and that's the whole point isn't it.Do it in the ground take on the stewards refuse to shut up or sit down,create noise and dissent on camera,there's no point in making a noise without media coverage,and as Liverpool fans are involved that shouldn't be to difficult to arrange.Good luck anyway

58. Jason B

    Apr 02, 2015, 17:01 #69461

    @Smithy. It's called Wembley fever!

59. Smithy

    Apr 02, 2015, 16:52 #69460

    Oh my god! Only two players in sick bay and both expected within 10 days! What is going on? Surely it can't be right? The medical team will have to knobble a few in training as they won't get their bonus this month. Diaby has been on their treatment table so long his outline is imprinted in the table like a memory foam mattress!

60. Ron

    Apr 02, 2015, 16:47 #69459

    Captain Frank - right with you. That was me when i used to be a regular at home games.

61. Hiccup

    Apr 02, 2015, 16:30 #69458

    A bit concerned that protests and demos could undo all the good work the team has done so far. If our season is derailed, the finger of blame will be pointed at these trouble makers. NOW is not the time for disruption. Get yourselves in the ground early, sing your hearts out, and let's secure that top 4 placing. A win on Saturday will just about ensure that. The time to complain is after the season has finished. I would suggest protesting about the prices when you all hand over another grand for next season's ticket. I'm sure the club will then sit up and listen to you as they hand over your receipt. It's all to do with timing...

62. Ron

    Apr 02, 2015, 16:28 #69457

    Its good to make a visual protest, but alas Gooercolesboy is right. £64 quid compared to some of the upper tier seat ticket costs there is cheap but, scandalous per se for a footie match. The average football game is worth £20.00 in my book but we ll never see that price again! My beef until i let me ST go in 2010 was to query why Liverpool and Tottenham were classed as Cat A. Both average, no great crowd pullers in their teams and neither big hitters in the modern footie World? I know its a pull to allow the ST to lapse, but more fans should do it i think. Why assist paying the Walcotts of this World his outlandish salary plus a good few others like him. Empty seats make some statement and looks a disgrace as football displays its dubious 'best league in the World' product on prime time TV. Roll on the TV companies tiring of it. The truth is that there are about 2-3 games per season that stick in the memory (if you're lucky). The rest are mundane and half arsed, half paced and tepid affairs.

63. Captain Frank

    Apr 02, 2015, 16:14 #69456

    You’re making some assumptions there maguiresbridge, so let me put you straight from a personal perspective. I’ve never spent a penny on food or drink inside that ground. At Highbury was different, but then the quality of the pies and the beer went downhill and that was the end of that. I enjoy the local establishments who are far more deserving of my pennies. I don’t buy any official merchandise and haven’t for years because, once again, the quality does not justify the prices they now charge. Give me Jack Kelsey’s shop at the Clock End any day of the week. So the only money the club get off me is my season ticket and even that’s one of the cheaper seats in the lower tier. Maybe I’ll give that up one day, but for now I still enjoy going with my friends and the football, whilst frustrating, is better than much of what I’ve seen over the years. Like you say, that’s my choice. However, I don’t see why this stops me from having an opinion on how much it should cost and giving up valuable time when I could be supping a beer in the pub to protest the point. Perhaps you’re right that it defeats the object by still paying for a ticket and using it, but I’d suggest it makes a stronger point than arguing about it on a website. In some utopian existence perhaps 60,000 people would congregate at the roundabout on Saturday and stay there throughout – that would send a hell of a message – but in the real world, I’d be surprised if the protest numbers more than 1,000 and I suspect over 90% of them will then make their way into the ground. Pointless or better than nothing?

64. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 02, 2015, 15:53 #69455

    Captain Frank, and my point was if any one's going to buy/ pay x amount for tickets or season tickets there's not much sense protesting about it then go in side the ground (to then buy over priced booze and food no doubt)the best way to protest is don't buy, your quite happy to do so and that's your prerogative I've never criticised any absentee season ticket holders (not that I can remember anyway and if I have it's not for this reason) but there's certainly no point in buying/paying and not going/in, but if enough fans like you stopped even for a year it might have some effect, granted maybe not much, but better than turning up early for a bit of a protest before heading in to like I've said spend more dough. As a life long supporter myself (I've never seen the need to say how long)and a season ticket holder for quite a few years also, i've done my fair share of venturing across for games over the years, although it's still in my name I don't pay a penny towards it others do that as I've been putting my money where my mouth is the last couple of seasons and staying away and protesting with my feet albeit not just for the reasons mentioned but others as well, and maybe if enough done that we wouldn't have to pay so much.

65. goonercolesyboy

    Apr 02, 2015, 15:04 #69454

    The tickets have already been paid for, so do you think the club will really care if people decide not to show up? Money is already in. Only hurting your own wallet by not showing. If in the long run you decide not to renew then there are people waiting to take them up. Not sure what the list is and how long but the bird has already flown. Only when sky etc don't pump money in will there be any change and that's not happening for the next five or so years. It's an economic fact that prices don't go down unless supply outdoes demand and in that case the club has enough money not to really care about empty seats, apart from the visual look on tv..

66. Charlie George Orwell

    Apr 02, 2015, 14:58 #69453

    This demo won't create a sea change, but let's hope it's a start. SKY/BT may not show it - but we live in a 24 hour News Channel world and there are non Murdoch papers/media. It will get publicity. The Arsenal and Liverpool Boards will hate it. And that must be a good thing.

67. Captain Frank

    Apr 02, 2015, 14:32 #69452

    My point was that I’d paid for a ticket (and yes, I accept your argument that I was happy to do so) and now you want me to leave the seat empty and waste my money? I’m not going to trawl back to see whether you’ve criticised absentee season ticket holders in the past, but plenty of people have on here and elsewhere and it’s a criticism I agree with so I’d be being a bit hypocritical to then become one such person wouldn’t I? I’ve been going for over 50 years so I’m too old to change my ways now and am lucky enough to be able to afford to go – that doesn’t mean I won’t stand up for people who aren’t so fortunate. I realise you are across the water, but I do you ever venture across for games thesedays?

68. Richard

    Apr 02, 2015, 14:27 #69451

    I have a 5 years old son and I am desperate to take him to the Emirates. I signed up to the red membership last year and to date, I have not been able to get one game (where we can sit together - my 5 year son can go on he's on if he wants - the junior gunners seats are released earlier but they do not allow a plus one). It s simple supply and demand - can you blame them!!! why would then reduce ticket prices when it is near impossible to get a ticket because of the demand. I appreciate that loyalty has to be rewarded (red/silver/gold membership) but what about the new fans (my son) and people who cannot afford season tickets or to go to several matches a year.

69. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 02, 2015, 14:22 #69450

    Captain Frank, I hear what your saying too, but there you go people turning up and protesting about the price of something they've already bought, happy to do so or why have they bought it in the first place. It's been said numerous times before if enough people stopped paying for/buying them it might have a better/bigger impact. Your certainly right protest at the ground is a good thing and something i'm all for but for then to go into the ground even after ten minutes? why not stay outside within sight and ear shot for the whole ninety minutes and leave the seats empty, and even after when the fat cats are coming out.

70. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Apr 02, 2015, 14:10 #69449

    The clubs will only take notice when the grounds are empty. If people keep paying extortionate prices, the clubs will keep charging them. It's your basic principle of supply and demand. Be interesting to see if SKY or BT have any coverage about the protest -I suspect not.

71. James

    Apr 02, 2015, 13:40 #69448

    As a season ticket holder but working overseas (various friends and relies are using the seat) this would be well worth supporting but I think there's a couple of things for which the club should be defended. Compared to a lot of grounds the Clock End corner doesn't seem to bad a location. £64 is ridiculous for a ticket but it is the cheapest in the ground and I think those clubs that gouge away fans for high prices should be excoriated. In this respect Liverpool and Arsenal away fans are equally burdened as they are both charged the highest prices at away grounds

72. Captain Frank

    Apr 02, 2015, 13:39 #69447

    What do you suggest Maguiresbridge? Most of the people there will have spent £64+ on a ticket or have it as part of their season ticket. I understand the point you're trying to make, but surely this protest is better than doing nothing? Perhaps it's even better than not going because it's happening within sight and earshot of the ground and will hopefully get some publicity.

73. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 02, 2015, 13:33 #69446

    Then everybody will head in to watch the match

74. Charlie George Orwell

    Apr 02, 2015, 12:26 #69445

    Count me in.