Awesome Arsenal

Online Ed: Emphatic win v Liverpool takes Gunners second in table



Awesome Arsenal

Banner held by both sets of fans


There were protests outside the stadium before the game about the price of tickets for Grade A matches, with a number of away supporters deliberately delaying their entrance for the first 10 minutes of the match. A banner expressing similar sentiments (“£5bn and what do we get? £64 a ticket”) was held up across the divide between Gooners and some Scousers who did get in for the start when the teams came out.

On this occasion, Arsenal fans for once would have felt they got their money’s worth for a top price match, although the Liverpool faithful would have taken a very different view.

Brendan Rodgers’ side were without Steve Gerrard and Martin Skrtl, with Daniel Sturridge confined to the bench until the game was decided for all intents and purposes. That the first two absences were self-inflicted will have been rued by their manager as the re-jig required made them a far poorer team than they might have been, not least due to the need to field Kolo Toure as one of their centre backs. The former Arsenal defender had a nightmare and his former team took full advantage.

The opening period was all Arsenal, with high pressing and plenty of chances created as a consequence, the best of which was passed up by Aaron Ramsey, unconvincing on his left foot. The Welshman was played on the right side of attack to accommodate himself, Cazorla, Alexis and Ozil in the same starting eleven, whilst allowing Ozil and Sanchez to alternate the advanced midfield role. Danny Welbeck was on the bench due to the knee injury he’d picked up on England duty, but Ramsey’s movement from his position did the team no harm and kept Liverpool guessing. The one thing that yesterday confirmed is how fluid Arsenal can be when they are on their game. The interchanging made them very difficult to contain.

Liverpool then came back into the game and Arsenal were fortunate not to have gone a goal down when Markovic and Sterling construed to miss a simple chance. There were concerns about Sterling’s pace exposing Mertesacker if he were isolated against him, but by and large, the German had a solid enough game.

The ten minutes before the interval saw the game decided with some wonderful finishing from Arsenal. All three goals were sumptuous strikes, all beating Mignolet on his right side. Two of them were struck from outside the area, demonstrating that Wenger’s players have the ability to score from distance, and it would be nice to see them attempt from range more often. Bellerin’s strike was inside the area, and if Aaron Ramsey were as two-footed as the young Spaniard, he would have surely scored in the opening spell. I was sitting next to the Highbury Spy for this game and he informed me that Barcelona were eyeing up Bellerin as a replacement for Dani Alves. Let’s hope the youngster does not have his head turned. On form, Mathieu Debuchy will have to wait a while before returning, so it will be interesting to see what the manager does with these two players. I predict a bit of rotation with Debuchy playing the bigger games. It’s a nice problem to have.

The second half was predictably a less intense affair from Arsenal’s viewpoint. A case of job done, with injuries to Koscielny and Ramsey meaning changes, and the entrance of Flamini allowing Liverpool to attack more with a resultant penalty giving hope after Bellerin was undone by Sterling’s quickness of feet.

Ospina almost saved it, but the subsequent dismissal of Emre Can largely killed any hope of a comeback. Olivier Giroud sealed things with a pearler missed by the early leavers at the death. I’m uncertain where so many people needed to be after a game that finished before 3pm. It was the third goal hit from outside the box and again beat the Liverpool keeper on his right side.

It capped an authoritative performance from Wenger’s team, and delightful as it is to see the team in such great form, there is also reflection about what might have been if the defensive side of things had been sorted out properly last summer. It’s good that the likes of Bellerin and Monreal have improved so much, but the learning curve for these two (the latter as an emergency centre back) unquestionably cost points. Calum Chambers was used far more than he should have been. If the title were decided on games between January and December, Arsenal would have won it in 2013 and look a good bet for this calendar year. But they need to get it right from August to May. The recent run demonstrates this is a squad good enough to challenge credibly for the title, and it must be hoped that the confidence of this sequence builds further so that next season Arsenal can, for once, have a genuine season-long go at winning the league for the first time since 2004.

What we saw against Liverpool yesterday was worthy of champions. Just a shame they left themselves too much to do with the results back in the autumn. Still, onwards and upwards. The FA Cup and a top three place would signify improvement, and managing to beat Mourinho’s Chelsea in three weeks’ time would be the icing on the cake to set the team up for 2015/16.

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  1. Ozzie

    Apr 08, 2015, 11:40 #69686

    Well said, jjetplane.

  2. King Jeremy

    Apr 08, 2015, 9:05 #69676

    As many others have said, from here 2nd should be the target, 3rd as minimum. But then if you are honest you just know deep down that the "job done" mentality will kick in now that it looks like 4th is secure.

  3. Jon

    Apr 07, 2015, 19:07 #69649

    I don't post comments often and neither does Gooner Post as far as I can recall, but I felt a need to respond to his barbed criticism of Kevin's article. I'm not sure what you wanted to see, but Kevin has always presented a balanced view in my opinion and for this game he rightly praised the finishing and all-round display. Perhaps you were upset by the comment towards of the end of "what might have been", but frankly that was the main topic of conversation in the pub I was in after the game, especially as we watched Chelsea struggle against the Neanderthals. At the moment, we look like the best side in the league and that's not something I thought we would be able to say earlier in the season. Yes, the pressure might be off to some extent and I'm certainly not going to get carried away and make predictions about winning the league next season because I know everyone else will strengthen and, if past form is anything to go by, we'll probably ignore the key positions which need filled. However, I will enjoy the good form whilst it lasts and would invite others to do the same as it seems to me Kevin was doing on Saturday.

  4. Gooner Post

    Apr 07, 2015, 13:42 #69633

    It must pain you to write about positive results. Go and write for Spurs Kev you fool. Proud as punch. We are a proper club.

  5. jjetplane

    Apr 07, 2015, 11:30 #69621

    The point is COLsey Jamer... JULESd is that you are now the leading lights at AKB so how about writing something to convince everyone what a wonderful world Satchmo Wenga has created all on his lonesome and WESTIE can we have an update on your 'Sanchez the headless chicken cannot play in the same team as Ozil' but quite illuminating that you little proto empiricist AKBs would like to have slaves while you read your little right wing rags and dream of 'being out of Europe.' lol! Think Wenga quite likes Europe - it pays for the upkeep of the chateau. dacha, ranch, castle oh and he has got slaves. He has you lot. Some of you may even have seen him in person over the last decade. Some of you ain't ..... I would love to see Arsenal topple Chelski and it is the best get out card Wenga has had in a decade of being nowhere near contention for the big one. In reality it is just a piece of silver shared amongst a cartel of polluted clubs (Arsenal are no different to the others) and the players could not give two hoots about what badge they wear as long as the lolly is rolling in. Who are the slaves now?

  6. mark from aylesbury

    Apr 07, 2015, 10:35 #69617

    Chris Dee - Mate, surely we have to get at least 3rd spot for it to be a successful season plus Cup win of course. It's been 10 years since we finished in the top 2 which is sad and a bit shocking. If we start becoming a top 3 team then at least we become in it to win it. Something that can't happen if we are always slipping to 4th. Here for general review is my view: 2nd + Cup win = Genuine lift and excitement with real possibility of going for the league next year if reinforced 3rd + Cup win = Successful season and progress 2nd but Lose Cup = Mixed results a little like last year more division in the Arsenal supporting family but progress none the less 3rd but Lose Cup = As above but even more angry debate 4th - WOB's like me get even more angry Any of the above and don't reach final - Wenger out Alert!

  7. goonercolesyboy

    Apr 07, 2015, 9:26 #69613

    Akbest....yes we won on Saturday, and your point is?

  8. chris dee

    Apr 07, 2015, 8:55 #69612

    Just shows how a competent, not great keeper and a competent,not great defensive midfielder that has no other brief other than to help the defence, can help a team. Totally Arsene's fault that these two positions were not adequately filled in the last few years.But what a great feeling at the moment,not fearing any team and playing with passion.But,but,but only finishing in the top four and winning the F A Cup would constitute a successful season.

  9. Arseneknewbest

    Apr 07, 2015, 7:33 #69610

    colesy, jules and jamee - Although their messages remain typically incoherent, dull and playground-level threatening it's not often that you see that triumvirate of our most absurd AKBs posting their musings in a row like that. Did we win on Saturday by the way? Put the easter eggs down lads - you've evidently had too much chocolate...

  10. julesd

    Apr 07, 2015, 5:44 #69609

    Jamerson - where can we get one of those slaves? How do you tell which ones they are? Oh I know they are crawling around outside the Emirates with green gills, must go and catch us one or two!!

  11. goonercolesyboy

    Apr 06, 2015, 21:56 #69607

    Another poor side put to the sword by Man City....oops, not so easy is it?

  12. JM - LONDON

    Apr 06, 2015, 20:59 #69606

    Okay, I'm having a laugh, but let BARCA have Hector and we'll have Dani Alves in an exchange!. On a serious note I was at the game with a Liverpool fan, absolutely awesome performance by the Arsenal and my mate said as much.

  13. Alsace

    Apr 06, 2015, 20:17 #69605

    The most impressive thing about this game was that all the orthodoxies were addressed. We had a defensive midfielder winning the ball, but most of the team were pressing the ball as well. The scousers could have been two up early on, but so could we. The strikes were all of the highest quality. Bellerin is a real find, and should be first choice. Much though I love Flamini, Rosicky should have been brought on for Ramsey when injured. Rosicky drives the team forward and intimidates opponents with pace. Had he been deployed this would have been a bigger rout. Wenger cannot make the correct subs, or make them when needed. On Saturday however, not even his traditional incompetence could dampen spirits. Feminist affection for Kolo Toure at full time was great to see.g

  14. jjetplane

    Apr 06, 2015, 20:08 #69604

    Looks like you are the miserable one. Why aren't you out celebrating instead of being pained by a couple of WObs. Maybe you are not as convinced as you so unimaginatively make out. Hope you win something! lol!

  15. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 06, 2015, 19:43 #69603

    Ho Hum, or the words of a man who hopes Le Fraud will look favourably on another fan of his if he's looking for a place on the coaching staff.

  16. goonercolesyboy

    Apr 06, 2015, 19:32 #69602

    Good to see the mug-uiresbridge and jj as the dumb and dumber of the online Gooner festering away in their own miserable worlds. Wise up you sad fools and join your messiah, jeff wright , on his journey to oblivion.

  17. jjetplane

    Apr 06, 2015, 18:21 #69601

    Excellent BARD and fun to reiterate that chief numerologist of the AKBs would not be seen dead in the Holloway area. He has a more spiritual link with the divine Lord Wenga. I wish them both 'good fortune.' Great local derby today in the humble 9th tier with no goals but knife edge commitment from all. Nothing like supporting your team in person ...... lol! Ooh look at the bunnies will ya!

  18. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 06, 2015, 18:05 #69600

    Big Andy, good post, and it's exactly around this time the AKB's also have a habit of finding their best form/voice.

  19. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 06, 2015, 17:43 #69599

    Hiccup, good post, nail on the head, that's the difference with ambitious fans wanting and expecting success and others just hoping for it (and not bothered as long as there's progress) and it being a bonus if it comes. You couldn't make it up.

  20. jjetplane

    Apr 06, 2015, 17:32 #69598

    HO HUM & HiCCUP Keeping the Faith! Thanks for the laughs. I guess the WOk is a tad North Korean. I know a few posters on here who have not a clue what goes on there and yet they feel it is the 'shining path.' Religious types are always good for a laugh. Easter and all that. once were hedgehogs, now are bunnies! Yeah! .....

  21. Westlower

    Apr 06, 2015, 17:28 #69597

    @Bard, As the season is drawing to its climax I thought it was time I put you on my knee and explained the 'facts of life' to you. It's commendable that you continue to dream of PL & CL glory but you're getting ahead of yourself. I have it on good authority that it'll come to fruition in 2015/16. The Board have been meticulous in their medium term planning and success is assured on all fronts. Captain Arsene has steered us through choppy financial waters and it's smooth sailing from here on. Profits will soar in line with silverware & the world will be breathless watching Arsenal's brand of super duper football. The worlds top, top, top players will form a queue outside the Emirates pleading to be signed up. Any bets on who'll be Arsenal manager next year & the year after? All that WOB whining, wailing & squealing was for nothing....boo, hoo! Onwards & Upwards. Must go as the ambulance is double parked outside.

  22. Ho Hum

    Apr 06, 2015, 16:59 #69596

    Didn't we beat Liverpool comfortably at home last season as well, and at a time when they weren't missing the spine of their team? Watching Martin Keown respond to Piers Morgan with all the objectivity of a North Korean civil servant was certainly chilling stuff though. The robotic, glazed-eyed way he forcibly stated that Wenger runs the club and Wenger will decide when he leaves would have delighted all those at AKB Central Command and were surely the words of a man who knows that Le Fraud will be haunting any potential new managers and coaching staff from the directors box for many years to come.

  23. Bard

    Apr 06, 2015, 16:30 #69595

    Welcome back Westie I thought you had been consigned to washing and ironing duties ! Having read your financial post can we claim those figures as yet another trophy to go with the FAC and manager of the month? I think I have now understood what the 'Arsenal way' is at last. We dont bother with all that CL and PL stuff. According to Jamerson we should and do play attractive football regardless of whether we win anything doing it. We aim for player and manager of the month plus the 'figures' oh those figures ! I have photoshop those you posted, framed them and put them on my wall. Next time my Chelsea mate says what the f*** is that supposed to mean, I can tell him its a trophy mate its the 'Arsenal way'.

  24. jjetplane

    Apr 06, 2015, 14:32 #69594

    Three CROWS on a fence.

  25. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 06, 2015, 13:17 #69593

    julsed, some of us have a days work done already, and can't lounge about all day and rely on our partners winnings. (two days in a row). ArseneKnewBest, not sherry mate Easter eggs.

  26. Tony Tadley

    Apr 06, 2015, 13:16 #69592

    @westlower my auntie was going out with Ray Kennedy at the time. She thought they'd be off up west to celebrate but no. Just round a friends house to play a few records and a quiet drink. How times have changed!

  27. Big Andy

    Apr 06, 2015, 12:38 #69591

    We're in a very nice run of form but the fact is that we won't win the league, and we did nothing again in the CL. So no real progress. We have a habit of finding our best form just when it doesn't reall matter.

  28. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 06, 2015, 12:36 #69590

    OGL had no problem shaking Brenda's hand on Saturday (no doubt if it had been the other way round he'd have skulked off down the tunnel in a huff)gliding across the technical area puffa jacket opened and flapping like Peter Cushing's cape in Dracula, it was hard to know if he was going to shake his hand or bite him.

  29. Westlower

    Apr 06, 2015, 12:36 #69589

    For perspective it's worth regurgitating the money angle of THE top 4 clubs: Man U, debt £342m, wages £215m; Man City, debt £67m, wages £205m; Chelsea, debt £958m, wages £193m; Arsenal, debt £240m, wages £166.4m. @Tony Tadley, Limpars goal was one of my all time favourites. The best ever Arsenal goal for me is Ray Kennedy's at the Lane in 71. Priceless! A new age was born with that goal.

  30. Tony Tadley

    Apr 06, 2015, 11:58 #69588

    dont know what all the fuss is about, we've put 4 past them before at Highbury with all 4 coming from outside (or at least on the line of) the area. Limpar even chipped Mike Hooper? from near the half way line but it never gets talked about when the usual run of long distance goals get shown. Pre sky I suppose.

  31. Badarse

    Apr 06, 2015, 11:40 #69587

    This is the 'cusp'!

  32. Westlower

    Apr 06, 2015, 11:00 #69586

    Observations from the weekend. Martin Keown interrupting Piers Morgans demand to get rid of Wenger - "You'll destabilise the team if that happens". Jamie Redknapp in appreciation of Mesut Ozil - "You dont become a Real Madrid hero or win the World Cup without being something special. I'd rather see a quality player do something special than a bunch of grafters with nothing to show for it". Wenger stating the need to remain open minded at all times on players development as they can surprise on occasions, referring to Bellerin & Coquelin. Unless Arsenal hit a losing run soon the pram & toy industries will have to make many workers redundant due to lack of demand. Now Jules, where's that cake you promised me?

  33. Hiccup

    Apr 06, 2015, 9:57 #69585

    So the CL places look all done and dusted. A couple of points separate the successful candidates. One team will sack their South American boss as it will be seen as dismal failure. Van Gaal meanwhile breathes a huge sigh of relief as he does the bare minimum to save his job. United fans are far from happy with the season, and you'll do well to find any United fan shouting from the rooftop what a great season they've had. Gaal probably has 12 months to prove himself, as another mediocre season will need explaining away. Meanwhile in never never land, the tooth fairy believers are running amok with delirium, as it's deemed as our best season in years? A contract extension for wenger needs sorting asap. You couldn't make it up!

  34. Lee afc

    Apr 06, 2015, 9:43 #69584

    And a few months ago Jeff "always " Right was spewing out comments about us "slipping into mid table mediocrity" . Onwards and upwards fellow gooners. The pain is etched all over the anti wengerites on here.

  35. Esso

    Apr 06, 2015, 9:16 #69583

    Some serious muppetry on here. Quelle surprise!

  36. Arseneknewbest

    Apr 06, 2015, 8:52 #69582

    julesd - make sure it's a cake with a file inside it because you could be locked up in a jail for football punditsfor some of those opinions mate. I was almost agreeing with you until you said, and I paraphrase, that Wenger teams were good to watch and that no one ever died of boredom in the wok. Were you on the sherry last night? Think of our opening game against Palace this season to name but one game.

  37. nick

    Apr 06, 2015, 8:45 #69581

    I'm also confused. Long been a Wenger out person. Think Giroud is a donkey. Now we're playing good football and/or grinding wins out and the donkey is scoring. What's to do? It's all you'd want from your team....winning and the donkey scoring and yet...I'm still not happy or am I? It was so much easier for my confused brain when the donkey was missing the barn door and The Frenchman was losing. God help me if we win the league next year.

  38. Bard

    Apr 06, 2015, 8:40 #69580

    Gaz; I agree mate. Its the perennial Arsenal question, are we on the verge of something ? We are on a good run but as I have said there is very little on the line, top 4 is a given if you consider the money we have spent. Most of the others are poor beyond belief and we have been here numerous time before and never kicked on, so while I can get hopeful I remain extremely sceptical. Chelsea expect to win the league Arsenal expect top 4. Julesd I think its disgraceful and disrespectful to the fans that we were led to believe that moving from to the E******* would usher in a new competitive era when so far its merely been a ruse to increase revenue and very little else. Im afraid we have a different perspective. i enjoy attractive football with the best of them but unless it results in a win, it's a waste of time. The game's about winning trophies not just turning up to the party.

  39. julesd

    Apr 06, 2015, 8:14 #69579

    WeAreBuilding, Thanks for the correction. It had already been pointed out to me in house, once he got up! I doubt if Bitter (Maguires) & Twisted (JJ) are up yet either. Best get back to the kitchen and bake a cake as penance for my error. Have we ever seen 4 better Arsenal goals in one game? It was a joy to behold. Win, lose or draw Wenger teams are exciting to watch. No one ever died of boredom at the Emirates.

  40. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Apr 06, 2015, 7:34 #69578

    Jules; Finsbury Woe is a p@@s take of Finsbury Joe, our resident Spud WOM. Finsbury Joe would rather be watching Paulinho's attempts at scoring a goal than the wonderful 8-minute total football blitzkreig that swept away the Bin Dippers.

  41. julesd

    Apr 06, 2015, 5:45 #69577

    Finsbury Woe SO... now we know you aren't an Arsenal supporter, gave the game away when you said your trophy cabinet was empty, never mind keep supporting the mob up the road.....one day, dreams!

  42. julesd

    Apr 06, 2015, 5:31 #69576

    JJJetplane/Maguiresbridge, Sorry to disappoint you both but I am a person in my own right. I've been watching Arsenal since August 15th 1972 when we beat Wolves 5-2, Derek Dougan was the Wolves CF that day. George Graham scored a fabulous goal. I find your views on Arsenal & our manager distasteful & disrespectful but you're entitled to your opinions. Anyone who doesn't appreciate the importance of a top 4 finish to our club is redefining stupidity. Ask the Scousers & our neighbours how significant it is? Saturdays win was huge in so many ways.

  43. Ozzie

    Apr 06, 2015, 5:11 #69575

    Interesting game, this football. You can play a great game and lose, win with just 33% possession, get an undeserved win from a ref's whistle, lose from a miscalled offside, come back from the dead with only 9 men, lose from a cheating diver and you can....flog Liverpool. Long may Kolo be a Gooner and Arsene a goner.

  44. Joe S.

    Apr 06, 2015, 4:55 #69574

    I'm glad to see Ozil showing it to the AKB loyalists who would rather prefer to see an honest sap of a trudger grinding away in his place. Class tells and if only Arsenal had one or two other players of his level playing along side him, then we could really be a threat in Europe where it matters.By the way, I'm still hoping to see Arsenal inflicting similar pain to the Red Devils on their home turf. That would be icing on the cake.

  45. Gaz

    Apr 06, 2015, 3:18 #69573

    @DWThomas: I think the chelsea game could be another important 'marker' as much as getting through to the quarter finals in the Champs league was. We failed in that test but Wenger finally beating a Mourinho led side alongside wins against City, Utd and Liverpool sure would add to that feeling we're on the verge of something special. Would also love to see Mourinho's face if we beat them!!!...

  46. lee armitt

    Apr 06, 2015, 1:51 #69572

    bringing on flamini instead of rosicky was ridiculous management it could have cost us the game.lucky for us can got the can to save wenger's blushes

  47. GoonerRon

    Apr 06, 2015, 1:32 #69571

    @ DW Thomas - "Coq is and has been our savior in this half of the season, make no mistake. Pure chance on that one, nothing to do with Wenger." So he bought our 'saviour' from the French 2nd division yet Wenger still get no credit? How convenient. Also, for those saying Liverpool are poor etc, fair enough, but they have been on a great run themselves and the key is our tactics and carrying out of the game plan made them look poor.

  48. Torbay gooner

    Apr 06, 2015, 1:13 #69570

    No James, it was a poor Pool team or perhaps you think Allen, Toure, Moreno, Lucas or Markovic to name but a few would get into Chelski,s City's or this Arsenal team. If you think that then you are indeed deluded. Tony Pepe, as you say roll on 26th. It would be nice to score against them, let alone actually beat them!

  49. AMG

    Apr 05, 2015, 23:54 #69569

    Good result, could have been so different had Sterling not been counting his undeserved millions instead of focussing on keeping pace with young Pires. O well, that's Wengerball for you! Good to see we're capable of putting in a challenge when the race is already run - No doubt this will count as competing in some people's books - As Badarse would say, good old Arsenal.

  50. DWThomas

    Apr 05, 2015, 23:27 #69568

    Gaz I get it. 2 very big games. Chelsea at home and Man U away. Win those two and the Cup and we have improved slightly. Still, no league or CL trophy and it still feels a major let down. The stadium move seems a ruse still, but, I agree next season seems like it could be different. I see myself writing that and feel I am being a mug again though. All this bs about not wanting us to win is rubbish. I want to win, with class or not, that's the point. Consistent failure when being ever close to the promised land is what's tainted me. And the spin that comes with that each year followed by more promises that never arrive. Yet, this run is fun to watch. Sanchez, Coq, Santi, and Ozil are brilliant in their roles. Even Giroud is winning me over. Maybe times are a changing. But the jury is still out.

  51. Gaz

    Apr 05, 2015, 23:10 #69567

    I'm finding it quite hard to get my head around what's happening at the moment. I mean there's simply no denying that we're on a fantastic domestic run playing some really great football. Our major players (namely Özil and Sanchez) are beginning to dominate and we're even starting to beat the bigger sides we've had so many problems with over the past few years. But here's the thing. As positive as I'd like to be two things continue to dominate my thinking. Firstly we came into yet another season underprepared and that's definitely cost us 6 or 7 points again. Secondly I just can't get that Monaco game out of my head as we'll never get a better chance to qualify for the last 8 of the comp the move to the Emirates was sold upon. And taking this on a stage I just find it hard to get overly excited about a domestic run that'll eventually only see us enter a competition we'll never win under Wenger. The FA cup-if we win it-will be great but last years win was supposed to be the springboard to even greater success which it won't be! Here's the ****ing dilemma though! Even after all of that there's still a part of me that actually thinks we might be on the verge of something! Won't happen this season whatever happens but I can't deny that a second place finish and the cup must be seen as an improvement. I'm genuinely looking forward to the summer as I am convinced we'll once again spend big but this time on the right players. Of course I've been here many times before and in all honesty it would be easier not to think like that (as it'll most likely save me from the usual disappointment!) but I can't help it. I guess the simple fact is I'm an Arsenal fan first and foremost and whilst I get as bitter and twisted about Wenger and the Club the want to see them do well will always be there...lurking in the background...so to speak!...

  52. James

    Apr 05, 2015, 22:59 #69566

    The anti Arsenal always like to add poor before each of our opponents just to take the shine of Arsenal's victories.Don't listen to these waster's most of them are clueless and follow our rivals.Finsbury Joe your an idiot,I only managed to watch ten minutes of the spud Burnley launch-ball bore fest before switching off,where are all the travelling spuds these days the sours end was half empty,going to be embarrassing when you move into the giant ferry boat stadium in a few years.

  53. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 05, 2015, 22:57 #69565

    Torbay gooner, and if and when we do and that record is expunged it will be celebrated in some circles like all the other attempts failures and embarrassments didn't happen, and there'll be attempts to have them air brushed out of history but not in all circles.

  54. Tony pepe

    Apr 05, 2015, 22:26 #69564

    A poor Liverpool team. A poor Man city team. A poor Man utd team. ???? Stuffed the mancs in the cup. Beat the scousers yesterday, blitzed the champions at their place. Roll on 26th April.

  55. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 05, 2015, 22:25 #69563

    DWT, maybe we nearly did or could have and/or OGL showed interest, that alone would/will have been enough to make him so good or eventually a class player if he already isn't in certain circles, another one for the nearly man.

  56. Torbay gooner

    Apr 05, 2015, 21:49 #69562

    Yes, it was a superb win against a poor Liverpool team. Can we play like that against Chelski and overturn one of most wretched records on our manager's CV?

  57. DW Thomas

    Apr 05, 2015, 21:14 #69561

    WABATTD you're having a laugh right? He is dominating this league. Hazard is the best attacking CM currently in the PL. Fabregas was on fire first half, although he is having his typical second half slump. Still, Chelsea have led by Fab, Haz, and Costa. You can't deny those three are a big reason they are top and will most likely win it. Anyone who knows anything about football knew Hazard was going to be one of the best. Same with Pogba too. He will move from Juventus and become world class as well. I can't stand Chelsea, but they are winners. Can't wait till we play them again soon. Game of the season for me should things continue in the table as they are now. I'd still take Sanchez or Cesc over Hazard, but his class has been undeniable. Shame we didn't get him instead of Gervinho. That is another lost deal that is another example of many poor decisions leading to an incomplete team. We have all been saying the same things for years now. The more things change...

  58. mark from aylesbury

    Apr 05, 2015, 21:09 #69560

    I'm a WOB and I love Arsenal winning.

  59. Unchives

    Apr 05, 2015, 21:05 #69559

    Credit to the boys and the manager, Champions form, I have a sneaking feeling we will just do it!

  60. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 05, 2015, 20:40 #69558

    Mac no9, ArseneKnewBest, of course we did, and do, (no matter what the AKB's think, some more than others) and enjoy wins like yesterday even though we know it's not going to make any difference, you see, because we don't worship at the feet of their messiah they think we don't, can't, and more importantly to them shouldn't and that's what pisses them off more than anything that we can differentiate between the two, and can and do support Arsenal and enjoy their wins and success and will continue to do so (for what there is and has been of it/them over the last ten years thanks to TOF) regardless of their hero or what they think.

  61. j

    Apr 05, 2015, 20:15 #69557

    Liverpool had to won yesterday.they have a squad of players like all clubs and were found wanting.they had a £20 mil centre half on the bench.the pressure is not off~a top four is not secure.credit were it is due AW's summer and winter signings are better than liverpools,spurs,manu.the chavs and mancity can be reckless so dont count.we were auwful last year at anfield and i really enjoyed the pool implode yesterday.if top four not important why do spurs liverpool and manu want back in it?

  62. jjetplane

    Apr 05, 2015, 20:00 #69556

    JulesD sounds exactly like that stat bloke who comes on here who also never goes to see their Beloved Arsenal. One and the same perhaps or just munching the same AKB pills. Visions also of Jamerson 'dancing by myself' with a bottle of cheap sparkly .... Let's just say IF Wenger ever won a major trophy again (no sniggering) it would make that 2005-2013 look like something to be brushed under the carpet. For AKBs coming 2nd is good enough and I also hope JAMERsOn the prices go up until the ground contains you and the stewards .... Lol! Still don't get it - it's the WOBs who are the real fans of football and in every AKB post there is nothing but a preoccupation with said fans. I wonder why ......

  63. Tony pepe

    Apr 05, 2015, 18:37 #69555

    Absolutely wonderful win yesterday. I bet the old manager of the month trophy sits nicely on the mantlepiece at the Wenger household. Keep up the good work Arsene. Manager of the year beckons ehh. Might just upset a few on here. COYG. Oooo tooo beee.

  64. Bard

    Apr 05, 2015, 18:36 #69554

    Good post Arseneknewb; Its ridiculous to imagine that critics of the regime are anything but delighted to have spanked Liverpool. Anyone would think we had actually won something from reading Julesd and Jamerson's posts It is worth reminding ourselves that we have been here countless times over the years, thinking we have turned a corner only to find we are up another blind alley. If we had bought moreorless any half decent centre half in the sumer rather than having dear old Monreal play there and had shown half the commitment of yesterday we might be looking at our first title in a long while. The truth is we were out of it before Xmas because of negligence and ineptitude. We have only been playing for the minor places since then. It is a whole lot easier to play when there is relatively little pressure. On a minor note I really enjoyed Ozil yesterday. He will never put in a massive shift on the defensive front but I do love watching him on the ball, beautiful. Has Bellerin relegated Debuchy to the bench for the foreseeable future ?

  65. Finsbury Woe

    Apr 05, 2015, 18:17 #69553

    My glass is just like my football team's trophy cabinet - empty.

  66. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 05, 2015, 17:53 #69552

    DWT, 3rd, or 4th is a certainty mate you can bet on it, there's no pressure remember. And we've been hearing about building for a tilt at the title next year for ten years now and next year won't be any different because of a couple of good wins here and there.

  67. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 05, 2015, 17:39 #69551

    jusled, (if there's such a poster, telling everyone someone's your better half comes in handy) we're still here especially when we win, unlike yourself when we only hear from you after one, (or to crow about some meaningless stat or manager of the month award) and twice in one day? family fed then? Easter eggs all scoffed or are you still in the middle of yours? or was that another one from the same household your grandson granddaughter perhaps, that would explain it, who's sneaked onto the computer and still eating theirs.

  68. Finsbury Joe

    Apr 05, 2015, 17:22 #69550

    AKBs out in force largeing it, completely clueless bunch, devoid of any sense of reality. It looks like this year, these people will get their 4th place trophy, mainly down to good fortune of Arsenal, some very friendly referees, and other teams not quite yet there, something I expect to change next season. What the AKBs should at least acknowledge is that Arsenal in the champions league is a wasted space for all except the money grabbing manager and owner.

  69. Arseneknewbest

    Apr 05, 2015, 17:19 #69549

    JAMIE and julesd - We're all Arsenal fans remember? And as far as I can see, all the usual WOBs (this one included) are happy/delighted to give the team praise when they win. I was fookin overjoyed yesterday just in case you have difficulty imagining that. If anything, you lot tend to go missing in an AKB vortex when the team puts in a p*ss-poor display and reminds us sll that the manager looks clueless. Ozil was pure gold for me yesterday, and Kolo looked like he'd swallowed a few too many of his other half's slimming tablets. Assuming we best Reading, it's now at the stage where most of us wouldn't mind another encounter with Brendan's bin dippers before the end of the season.

  70. Mac no9

    Apr 05, 2015, 17:18 #69548

    I'm much more WOB than AKB but you have to enjoy that performance. Started really brightly for once and although we were lucky at points scored 4 beautiful goals. If only Jack hadn't played earlier on in the season, we would really be challenging.

  71. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Apr 05, 2015, 17:05 #69547

    Dw Thomas; no way is Hazard world class. He can get a ball, cut inside, and then what? Fabregas isn't exactly setting the PL on fire these days either.

  72. DW Thomas

    Apr 05, 2015, 16:05 #69546

    Good win, but...Sterling for all his bs in the media about how he doesn't care about money, ha!, missed a glorious chance to change the game! Our goals for the first time in awhile were all great ones! Especially Ozil's for me, though Sanchez's was a great strike as well. Giroud and Bellerin's very tidy finishes. Still Kolo did have a nightmare, I actually felt sorry for him trying to mark players younger and faster than him now. Improvement from last season is on the cards and fourth at least looks hard to miss out on now. His could be a season for building to a title chase next year, a real one! Why is it though each year we falter over a whole season? Even Wenger knows and states that it is always down to consistency. Chelsea has Hazard now who is their world class player, one of the best now with Messi and Ronaldo. Another we let go to a rival. Ramsey was lucky his miss didn't cost us too. Looked to me like we 4 attacking CMs with him out there. Cazorla does more defending than him. Coq is and has been our savior in this half of the season, make no mistake. Pure chance on that one, nothing to do with Wenger. Still we are on a nice run, but to where? Always second best gets old year after year when we were promised way more!!!

  73. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Apr 05, 2015, 15:05 #69545

    Best thing about beating the bin dippers is that it ruins the weekend for that obnoxious c##t Colin Murray. A good win and no mistake.

  74. julesd

    Apr 05, 2015, 14:49 #69544

    Bad day at the office for poor old Maguiresbridge. You're not Piers Morgan by any chance are you? Your conditional half baked support is no use at all to Arsenal football club. It's just not fair Arsenal beating Liverpool is it? Where have all the Wobbies gone? This site would have been overwhelmed with them if we'd lost. In the words of Deliah Smith, "Come on, let's be 'aving you."

  75. Peter Hughes

    Apr 05, 2015, 14:40 #69543

    Funny that whenever we have a good win it is always to a poor team according to the usual suspects.We are edging closer to the 2 teams that have bought the title in recent years & the other one that generates more money.

  76. exiled&dangerous

    Apr 05, 2015, 13:59 #69541

    Got the British Touring Cars on ITV4 at the moment, one of the support races just finished with an Opel Ginetta smashed to pieces, blowing smoke, and out of the running. It had a spuds badge on the rear panel - ha ha ha ha!

  77. Barnaby

    Apr 05, 2015, 13:54 #69540

    Good win yesterday, I hear the arsenal scouts are looking at jimmy bolero, he's a south American striker with bags of pace, £20 mill and he should be ours!!!

  78. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 05, 2015, 13:30 #69539

    It was a poor pool team alright regressed, out of sorts, clueless, take your pick but probably one of the poorest that has came to the Emirates for a long time, and when the carthorse out paces a couple of they're players that says it all, and letting Arsenal play they're usual tippy tappy didn't help their cause at least on this occasion it was going/went somewhere with a good win with some excellent long range goals which makes a change from trying to walk them in, has bouldy been allowed to do his job at last? have the team been taking things into they're own hands and using their own initiative again? Well done to them anyway. Does it change anything? not one iota it's just another three points that brings us closer to qualifying for a competition we're never going to win under OGL.

  79. julesd

    Apr 05, 2015, 12:16 #69538

    What strength in depth we now have in the squad. Not one of our 6 English Internationals, Ox, JW, Theo, Gibbs, Chambers & Welbeck started the game. With potentially 9 games left to play it's been many years since we had such a relatively injury free set of players. Debuchy, Arteta & Diaby are now back playing. Hallelujah!! If only all these players were available at the start of the season. Losing our Top, top striker for 3 months after the first away game at Everton wasn't helpful. Bring on them Chavs!!

  80. jjetplane

    Apr 05, 2015, 11:29 #69535

    An amazing win with Liverpool reversing the role of last season and agree this team should be doing better than chasing a very untidy looking Chelsea. It will be better than a trophy for some if Arsenal end as bridesmaids which never used to carry much euphoria when it was the Mancs on a serial PL win. If the 64 squid was worth it that tots out at 16 pound a goal with a discount for conceding one. Onwards and upwards indeed with the top 4 cartel (see South America) though if Southampton could upset the cart that would be adding something new to a stale brand. Always said that Beckham goal was pants.

  81. Website Editor

    Apr 05, 2015, 10:10 #69532

    @goonercolesyboy & Wenger Out - Sorry for that one. Now corrected.

  82. Wenger Out

    Apr 05, 2015, 10:04 #69531

    Very funny if the league was Jan to Dec we would win the league.Thats the point Kev we can only play for half a season every season.And as per usual we turn it on when the pressure is off.If we were really in a title race we would bottle it again.Flamini did not give away the penalty it was BELLERIN

  83. GoonerRon

    Apr 05, 2015, 10:00 #69530

    Bar the middle part of the first half it was an exceptional display. 22 wins in 27 over the last 4 months in commendable consistency. The squad is looking strong and belief is high so just need to keep it going, finish as high as we can (whilst twatting Chelses in a few games time) and retain the FA Cup.

  84. goonercolesyboy

    Apr 05, 2015, 9:56 #69529

    Bellerin gave away the penalty, but a sound assessment, even though Gerrard hasn't been starting much recently, Skrtel was their main miss. We pressed high, and with these players we can and forced mistakes in their defensive third. Coquelin was again tremendous. He reads the game so well and seems to win most challenges or intercepts at the vital moment. Long may that continue. Off the pitch, a mate of mine said the turnout at the roundabout was poor, and I haven't read much media coverage, so nothing changes. On the pitch the players performed and blew Liverpool away. Onwards and upwards.

  85. Fozzy

    Apr 05, 2015, 9:54 #69528

    Lovely to see Kolo back, one of The Invincibles, and doing us several favours. Always a Gooner.