Is the destroyer of Tottenham ever going to beat Mourinho?

Lack of fortune or mental block?



Is the destroyer of Tottenham ever going to beat Mourinho?

Front and back covers of the current issue of The Gooner


It has become a bit of an embarrassment, this seeming inability to be able to match wits with Mourinho! A few more opportunities coming next season I suppose!

A few weeks ago, after losing to Tottenham, I was sat in the pub with some of the locals who support Tottenham and while they were gloating away, I told them that by the end of April, they will be a minimum of five points behind Arsenal. They had a good laugh, but I bet they knew in their heart of hearts, that it was a fait accompli. Some of the younger ones in the group (20 years+) had never, in their entire lifetime, witnessed Tottenham finish ahead of Arsenal in the league. That is the enormity of what Wenger has done to them. He has destroyed the North London derby, replacing it with a predictable outcome, with a shocking degree of consistency. They must be praying for the day he departs.

Perhaps the most sensible observation I’ve ever heard made by a Tottenham fan (and believe you me, that is indeed an extreme rarity!) was when a lad sat up and said he is waiting for the day that Tottenham will show a little bit of ingenuity, instead of trying to go the easy way. His example was that Southampton went out there and brought in a manager from Espanoyl, who were not even doing so well at the time, and he (Pochettino) came in and did wonders for the Saints. As opposed to going out there and doing the same (i.e. finding someone), Tottenham felt they have found a magic wand, and swooped to take him off to Wasted Lane and off Southampton went again, to get a man who was well known as a player, but not that tested as a manager (Koeman) and he has done very well indeed. So much so, that for the better part of the season, they were well ahead of Tottenham, and even now, are only two points behind. He likened this to Arsenal bringing a relatively unknown Arsene Wenger in, who has singlehandedly ended the North London rivalry.

If we end up with the FA Cup for the umpteenth time in Wenger’s era, and back to back, it would have been an achievement, especially, with Wenger’s net spend in his near 20 years in charge at the Arsenal, being something of an anomaly in modern day football where the Mourinhos of this world have to have a sugar daddy holding their hands, and spending uncontrollably. However, no wins in 13 attempts is no longer just a fluke, but an indictment of the lack of variety and adaptability, that has come to characterize Arsene Wenger. It’s like a mental block! Even a deflected goal or a wrong penalty call or anything! PLEASE!!!!! Anything to wipe that smugness off Mourinho’s face, but unfortunately, we all knew that the best we could hope for was a draw. It has become our most painful reality. A right horror show!

If we close out the season in second or third (to avoid the silly CL qualifier double-header) and win the FA Cup (back to back), it would still have been a wonderful season, and perhaps all we can hope for under Wenger. All the other teams will take some positive steps to get better next season, we will talk, and talk, and talk some more; then make one last minute purchase over summer, while hoping to win the league next season.


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  1. jjetplane

    May 01, 2015, 12:26 #70567

    The problem lies in the premise that Arsene FC are entertaining. Watching Barca forge ahead in the CL (remember that?) is very entertaining with possibly the best forward line ever seen in football. Watching BM smash 6 goals in is entertaining. The last decade with OGL has been a decade too long. Boring, boring Arsenal and we are not talking GG either. Or for that matter the Tony Adams years which happily for Wenger coincided with him being given the task of overhauling the accounts while introducing room temperature water. I buy into the water bit but the rest is just BS .....

  2. Ron

    May 01, 2015, 12:11 #70566

    Reality is Jamie that theres not one team in the PL who do play 'hoofball' (yr fave definition) , dirty. etc. There never has been such a team really. Some more direct than others of course and some more robust than others as well. Your problem that is that you've never seen through Wengers bluster down the years as hes condemned any team that didnt sit back and watch his lightweight teams play and ultimately lie down for him. Your blinkered badly and still live in the Wenger imposed straitjacket that all of us allowed ourselves to be sucked into at one time, thinking the World and his dog was against us etc etc. It was all b o l l o c k s then and remains the same now. Shake off yr shackles. its time that you realised that Arsenal are hardly any more 'attractive' to watch than anybody else. Its a myth that dates back to 2002-2004 and Wenger still dines out on it. People like you just feed his spin. 20 teams all tip tapping out would be a nightmare for football indeed. You ought to go and watch Badminton, if its lightweight enough for you, though i venture theres maybe more physical confrontation in that than Wenger would ideally tolerate. Hes sold you a pup fella and its time you seen through him.

  3. jeff wright

    May 01, 2015, 11:51 #70564

    What we want is a bit of reality and yawn inducing same old less excuses .According to Jamieland 'logic' a draw is a win anyway ,both sides in a Champions League cup final who draw at 90 minutes win it ! You couldn't make it up.

  4. goonercolesyboy

    May 01, 2015, 11:15 #70562

    I admire your persistence Jamerson. Keep it going but soon they will be back with their continued negative assault on anything Arsenal. If so, shall we call it a draw and go to penalties? Or is that exactly what they want?

  5. Julious

    May 01, 2015, 9:04 #70560

    Until some effort is. Made to rectify the loan system, then all clubs will buck the FFP system. Many clubs obtain young talent with the sole aim of preventing them playing for their opponents. Clubs should be restricted to 12 loneies, this would help other clubs to pick up the talent that will become available

  6. Juggernaut

    May 01, 2015, 8:53 #70559

    I for one was absolutely livid when I read what Mr. Gazidis had to say earlier this week. Livid.

  7. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    May 01, 2015, 8:30 #70558

    The league is rubbish this year. But you can only beat what's in front of you so congratulations to Chelsea. In all honesty the domestic standard has been getting steadily worse since the turn of the decade. Even the 2nd Division (it's not The Championship BTW) is done and dusted, with promotion/relegation already decided before the last weekend. Anyway, won't it be funny seeing Sky still trying to big it up with their laughable "The Run In". Gosh yes, let's see who ends up in fourth place. Will it be Arsenal, Citeh or United? The excitement's too much, I'm going to have to lie down for a while.

  8. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 30, 2015, 22:31 #70557

    Next season is going to be so exciting I can't wait, it doesn't matter if we don't win any of our first seven or eight games as long as we're not beat, we'll be told by the wengerites OGL's going for the record of drawing all our games and winning the league,(the proper way mind you)and then when we are beat it'll be we only lost one game so far, even though we're probably twenty points adrift in fifth place and then it'll be we've made even more progress this year. It's not right laughing.

  9. Roy

    Apr 30, 2015, 20:38 #70556

    Yes, have to agree that it is a poor league in relative terms right now but with the Chavs the best team in it. It was not that difficult to predict they would win it after the signings they made before a ball was even kicked. I'd call them functional ( most of the time ) but with a good manager, and exactly the same could be said of Manure a couple of seasons ago after we flogged them RVP and they ran away with it. The only time the Chavs were under any sort of pressure was around the new year when Citeh briefly caught them which just goes to prove that the product some keep banging on about is not as good as some would have you believe. The fact that 35/36 points might keep you up this season probably tells you all you need to know. Still, onwards and upwards. COYG.

  10. jeff wright

    Apr 30, 2015, 19:58 #70555

    Mg,Some of the comments from AKB's suggest that they would be better off watching Ice Skating than football where you get awarded points for artistic display. Wenger himself seems more concerned about his perceived aesthetic aspects of the game than he is about such trivia as defending on corners and set pieces properly. As for GK's it seems that they are something that he hardly thinks about much at all. Who else would have kept Almunia on for so long and then the two Polish clowns afterwards. You couldn't make it up.

  11. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 30, 2015, 18:26 #70554

    jw, they could always give the cup to the team who played the most tippy tappy going nowhere, left to right front to back pretty football, and with winning not being a priority we'd be dead certs.

  12. jjetplane

    Apr 30, 2015, 18:13 #70553

    Theo 'I agree Henry was good for Arsenal .... do you think I should keep the beard? Jack has got one now so don't really want to clash on the bench... I was talking to the boss in training - if you know what I mean amigos ... let's do a quick selfie ... yeah Abou man ...' Can Arsenal now go on a run of not winning for a season and become The Untouchables? ....

  13. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 30, 2015, 18:09 #70552

    Ho hum, good one, but no i'm sure the waste of space still thinks in his tiny little mind we can still do it.

  14. jjetplane

    Apr 30, 2015, 17:39 #70551

    HICCUP that is just soooo nuanced! You've cracked the ****ing code bro! other less important news is due to the form of Coquelin there will be no players bought in the summer. Coquelin is to be offered an extra tenner a week which should ensure he is ready for transferring to Germany or Spain in a year or so. Theo has been quoted as saying .........

  15. Hiccup

    Apr 30, 2015, 17:27 #70550

    Actually agree with Jamie on something in that Chelsea have won a poor league. His medication must have kicked in for a few seconds at that precise moment before returning to type. Does that mean anyone below Chelsea was poor? So, arsenal can't make a challenge when it's a strong league. They can't make a challenge when it's a poor league. But we're the best team in Europe? If that's the case, let's just concentrate on winning the CL next season without winning a game.

  16. Ho Hum

    Apr 30, 2015, 17:02 #70549

    Has Theo-nice-but-dim conceded the title yet?

  17. jjetplane

    Apr 30, 2015, 16:50 #70548

    You are right RON dear JAMERsON is defending that tower for dear life now that all AKB executives appeared to have cried off for the season with 4th spot a good bet though 3rd would have them in a bad state of vertigo where they will look for a couple of poor results at the beginning of next season so the struggle for 4 can beging in 'earnest' and a desired balance can be maintained in the cushy bowl that is the Wok. So hopefully Arsene FC will be defending the Emirates cup while picking up an Emirates shield which can then go back to the Emirates. Will the new nick name for the club be The Emirs with songs sung in the fashion of company get togethers in Kyoto circa 90s ..... Maybe the reason there are no AKBs posting anymore is because 'defending is too easy' so why bother? Up The Emirs! Ooh to b ah/ooh 2 b ah/EMIR! Sing up Tabatha darling!

  18. jeff wright

    Apr 30, 2015, 15:28 #70547

    I had a anti-post bet on Barcelona months ago to win the Champs League Peter and I backed them to be outright winners that invludes extra-time and penalties.It's standard procedure for bookies to pay out on a draw at minutes in cup tie or finals where extra-time and pens could be involved they have done this donkeys years so nothing new I'm afraid there and nothing in it to help Jamerson's case ,in fact it just disproves it,because you can't win a Cup Final by a draw both sides draw so one must lose in extra-time or on penalties .

  19. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 30, 2015, 15:24 #70546

    Not to worry when OGL manages to win the CL next year by not wining a game we'll be invincibles again. It's not right laughing.

  20. maguiresbeidge gooner

    Apr 30, 2015, 14:18 #70544

    chris dee, and they certainly do mate they certainly do. jb it's surprising what a run of results always do for some fans, this is it, we're on a cusp, it's going to be different next season, with even players popping up to tell us, only for the inevitable, thank goodness other fans know better, good post.

  21. pete tong

    Apr 30, 2015, 14:05 #70543

    Jeff. Have a bet on this years champions league final and you will find that if for arguments sake Barcelona win on penalties, the bookies will only pay out on a draw in 90 minutes. The game is deemed a draw, won on penalties. So the fact is. Jamerson is correct that you can win the CL by drawing every game.

  22. Ron

    Apr 30, 2015, 14:04 #70542

    jj - credit to Jamie though. Hes still here, still carrying the torch defending the absurdly indefensible. Its heroic in a quaint sort of way? The rest of the blind apostles have all gone to Ivan's wailing wall to pay homage to his latest edict. To be honest, we should all be there to acknowledge the first bit of honesty to spew forth from the Club for donkeys years.

  23. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 30, 2015, 13:53 #70541

    The Real World, a figment of the AKB imagination, (they're) very good at imagining things) or their messiah told them.

  24. jjetplane

    Apr 30, 2015, 13:26 #70540

    Preserve us from the Ostrich (Lawrence Durrell's Black Book). Any more on the story of a Arsenal winger's mum being arrested at 'the colony' for whacking an AFC official. Wonder what that was about? One guess. Other news - Spuds (who we have destroyed all on our own) are looking to outbid high flyers for another one of them Saints boys. JAMERSON you is the new AMOS and i would look into a bit of rehab for the summer. You are over posting mate.

  25. jeff wright

    Apr 30, 2015, 13:15 #70538

    Your argument is the foolish one Jamerson because according to you teams who draw all their games in Champions League can win it but can't lose in it .When in fact winners and runners up ( losers) medals are awarded to teams in finals that are won either in extra-time or on penalties. As for your views on the unbeaten season well they are a rather silly really it obvious that Wenger winning the league and the FA Cup in a season is a greater achievement than winning just the league no matter how he did it. If he had done the treble as Ferguson did one can only wonder on how this would be perceived by you!

  26. Ron

    Apr 30, 2015, 11:58 #70536

    27 wins and 11 draws makes for new invincible s Jamie. No need to win every game to beat that 04 team. We re they really 'invincible s though'?Stat wise across a season of premier lge games yes they were and a great achievement too, realistically though? Not in my book. Its all subjective though and each to their own based on the criteria we all apply. For me, they weren't even the best or the strongest Arsenal team ever.

  27. Lord Froth

    Apr 30, 2015, 11:53 #70535

    @ The Real World. When people talk about the gap closing it's not just solely about how many points we are behind Chelsea. It's the fact that Arsenal are on course to gain second place with a higher points total than last season and have a better, more balanced squad. There is competition for places in all areas of the squad and if no-one vital leaves during the summer transfer window then there's no reason that we can't start off next season well and avoid dropping some of those cheap points that we dropped before Xmas when we had no defensive cover, Mertesacker was knackered from the WC and the back 4 line up changed every week and culminated with Monreal as CB and Chambers being overplayed. It's more about improvement than the gap closing. We have definately improved, Ozil has improved, Ox is looking good before his injury, Giroud is scoring goals, Cazorla is playing well etc. We have an FA cup final to look forward to so my advice would be to hope we finish as strongly as possible in the league, beat Villa in the final and look forward to next season.

  28. jeff wright

    Apr 30, 2015, 11:47 #70534

    I said it is possible to go unbeaten and get relegated because if something is mathematically possible then it can happen.Unlikely but possible.It's 14-million to one against winning the lottery but some do win it . Your argument about being able to win the Champions League by just drawing games is wrong because the criteria you use to support it is wrong .Teams that that win cup ties in extra-time or on penalties are WINNERS of the ties or finals. The draws just keep them and their opponents in the ties that are then won or lost in extra-time or on penalties . According to your 'logic' any side that lost in extra-time or on penalties would be unbeaten ! You couldn't make it up.

  29. Ron

    Apr 30, 2015, 11:41 #70533

    I hear you Bard, but i remain of the view that The King of all pouters Henry will be phased in by Wenger and Ivan and ultimately get the Coach job (no, not driving it, coaching the team). I base the theory mainly on the likelihood that by the time of Wengers contract ending the Club will need a new gimmick to spin to entice and beguile the faithful AKBs. Imagine the heraldry when Terry H is wheeled out with a leathery grinned AW alongside his protege? The roof will be raised in homage. Its all so awkwardly nuanced though isnt it.

  30. Ron

    Apr 30, 2015, 11:25 #70532

    EG - I reckon the Wally must be the most irritating little non entity the Club have ever employed to be honest. Perhaps City will take him as well as the Willy if we re lucky? Shame about him being wrong though, the calender year Cup is a treasured award that we ve long cherished isnt it. Have we lost the best net spend trophy as well?

  31. Exeter Gunner

    Apr 30, 2015, 11:17 #70531

    Team puts together a streak of wins to cement top 4 place after being rubbish most of the season and are now 'the best team in Europe'. Perennially injured runner compares himself to one of all time best PL players. They really do live in their own little world, don't they.

  32. jeff wright

    Apr 30, 2015, 11:14 #70530

    Again you perpetrate the same nonsense Jamerson you can't win the Champions League just by drawing games . Also your group stage scenario where every game ends in draws is blown out of the water by your own point that the winners would be those with the best head to heads or G/D soeven that is not winning by just draws alone. The KO ties have to be won including the final by one means or the other the extra-time and penalty shoot-outs are part of the ties or final and someone has to win them. Teams don't win cup comps by drawing games. End of.

  33. jjetplane

    Apr 30, 2015, 10:57 #70529

    Just read the Theo bit in the Guardian and he is another apostle of the Calendar year and he reckons the comparisons with Henry are feasible though between the lines he is spinning himself as something greater. The photo of three stooges that accompany it tells it all really. MG that was interesting of JM re Arsenal being a big threat in the new season. He is telling Wenger 'put up or shut up' in the best possible fashion. Are Citeh really after Jack for 30m - Poor lad!

  34. jb

    Apr 30, 2015, 10:23 #70528

    All on here know that we will never win the C/L or the P/L with Wenger in charge and we have known it for some time. Every so often we have a run of results that makes some doubters think 'hold on maybe things are changing'. We all know they are not changing and much as I hate to say it we are not a threat to the big boys. Mourinho has won the league within 2 years of his return and whatever we think about the guy you have to give him credit. He knew he would be under pressure if he didnt deliver a major trophy and i think thats the way it should be at a big club.

  35. jeff wright

    Apr 30, 2015, 9:51 #70527

    It's your argument that doesn't stand up Jamerson in fact it has fallen flat on its face! You can't win the Champions League by drawing all of your games .For starters if you drew every one in the group stage it's unlikely that you would proceed into the KO rounds. The KO rounds are not 'games' of two halves, but ties that consist of 90-minutes of normal time then if required a half hour of extra-time and a penalty shoot-out .These ties can't end in draws so your argument is a nonsense. Regarding the claims you make for Wenger and the unbeaten season United will point to their man's treble ,the league,FAC and European Cup as being the greater. Personally I think that Wenger's double winning seasons were a greater achievement than winning just the Prem even if he did lose some games in the league . The 'Invincibles' were not really so they lost in every other tournament that season. The not losing in the 2004 league season became a sort of fixation but this at times grim determination was not seen in Europe the league cup or FA one. Wenger never built on that unbeaten in the Prem season anyway and like him it is now ancient history. C'est la vie !

  36. chris dee

    Apr 30, 2015, 9:07 #70526

    Theo comes up with the latest'Arsenal speak'. Apparently we have been the best team in Europe this year. Sadly no trophies are awarded for this achievement,it means Jack s**t ,but its a great soundbite for people who fall for this type of meaningless crap.

  37. Bard

    Apr 30, 2015, 8:52 #70525

    The silence of most of the apostles is deafening. No counter arguments just dear old Jamerson blathering on about goodness knows what. Mike what we need and what we will get in terms of players are two very different things. Here's a thought to make you choke on your morning tea. There is an implicit assumption, at least on here, that we are seeing the Wenger endgame but there is no evidence for believing that this will be his last contract. The odds must be on him signing another three year deal after this one. From the boards point of view why would they get rid of him. They are making money by the shedload, there is waiting list for tickets, there is no real need to address the lack of trophies if we occasionally win the FAC and keep in the CL. Why would you change the manager? If you were Wenger and this is your life and you get paid £8m a year why give that up? Also he now can spend some serious money after years of trying to balance the books and having to sell our best players. No mate I dont see this as the endgame at all. Excuse me while I throw up.

  38. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Apr 30, 2015, 8:22 #70524

    Mike; you are so true. Because of the vested interests in football here, we are constantly having the "wonderful" EPL rammed down our throats every week, with seemingly wonderful 35 yard volleys repeated over and over. But, strangely enough, not repeats of the midfielder who lost control therefore conceding possession which lead to the goal. Europe is the real acid test and barring one freak win for Chelsea in 2012 our sides in recent years have been shown their real standing in the greater scheme of things. Football here is no better than it was in the mid-1980's - which was of a pretty poor standard then. Don't even get me started on Scottish football - which for some bizarre reason gets a lot of attention in England, probably only because of Sky.

  39. The Real World

    Apr 30, 2015, 8:07 #70523

    So much crap has been written about the gap closing.Total tosh.Last season we finished 7 points behind the champions and 3 behind Chelsea.On sunday that gap will be 16 points.How is the gap closing?

  40. Ron

    Apr 30, 2015, 8:04 #70522

    Mike - i think it will be many yrs before a PL team wins the CL. The best of Europe are light yrs away from the so called best from here and the distance is widening. Its a p--s poor league as you say. If the TV wasnt hyping it and it depended on fans to patronise it as was once the case, we would see many half empty stadiums except for the bigger games, as occurred in the early to mid 80s economic downturn. Hype alone has helped the poor product that is PL football buck the recession.

  41. Mike

    Apr 30, 2015, 7:51 #70521

    Good post Canada - seems that Chelsea took a closer step to the title last night. A lot of people are seeing the draw on Sunday as a failure- I don't quite get it. that was the most predictable of results. Chelsea were always going to sit back and counter. It was up to us to break them down which we could not do. People are critical of the signings but apart from one or two loans the rest of the signings over the last three years have improved the team.We lost to the lower teams when we had a spate of injuries. The squad is good enough to challenge now. I still think we need good seasoned DM. We can get rid of Walcott and Wilshire. This season has proved they are surplus to requirements. However, even Chelsea are nowhere near the best in Europe. They could not even beat PSG which is perhaps a barometer of where the EPL sits and why players such as Cesc and Sanchez who are at best squad players in Spain are paraded as world class here.

  42. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 29, 2015, 23:41 #70520

    I see the specialist in winning is having fun at TOF's expense again saying he fears OGL will follow Henrys transfer advice(when has he ever followed any one's advice) and become unstoppable next season, stating give Arsenal four top class players and I think they'll be invincibles again. Very clever indeed winding OGL up as well as sticking his nose into his business so he'll sure not listen to Maureen and give him the satisfaction of doing it. A great way of ensuring he doesn't, well done Maureen reverse psychology at it's very best.

  43. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 29, 2015, 23:19 #70519

    Exeter, suppositories prepped and ready to go.

  44. Mark

    Apr 29, 2015, 22:32 #70518

    Jameson you talk about the titles Wenger won but you never talk about the one's he blew.He should have won double the amount of titles he won.In 1999 ahead with two games left blew it.In 2003 8 pts clear with 9 games to go blew it in 2008 6 pts clear with 8 games left blew it.Mourinho has never blow a lead in a run.

  45. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 29, 2015, 22:28 #70516

    No doubt some AKB's still think Arsenal and their messiah can do it still hoping for a chav collapse, still waiting for the/a miracle, you couldn't make it up.

  46. jeff wright

    Apr 29, 2015, 22:20 #70514

    We are a long way from 2004 form ! Although there were 12 draws in that run which is almost a third of games played .In Jamerson land though draws count as being wins! Some Title stats here: Most titles: 13, Manchester United Most consecutive title wins: 3, Manchester United twice (1998–99, 1999–2000, 2000–01) and (2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09). Biggest Title-winning margin: 18 points, 1999-2000, Manchester United (91 points) over Arsenal (73 points). Smallest Title-winning margin: 0 points, 2011-12 Manchester City and Manchester United both finished on 89 points, but Manchester City won the title on Goal difference (+64 opposed to +56), the only time that goal difference has determined the Premier League.... It seems to me that as the league is decided on points won and not how you win them that the team with the most points won in a season our the top dogs in league history just going unbeaten is a record in itself but as I said before you can unbeaten and not win the league ,in fact as I recall at one pointin the 2004 season there were concerns that this might be the case . Too many draws can be worse than losing a couple of games .Fortunately despite the number of draws we hhad we were still able to win the title and that was the main thing because without that the unbeaten would have meant very little..

  47. Exeter Gunner

    Apr 29, 2015, 22:13 #70513

    Jamerson, you're forgetting Aston Villa in the 1890s. And they did it with a rope for a crossbar. Now that's a PROPER title. Bookies did pay out too early, you have outdone yourself. Nurse, prepare the medication.

  48. jjetplane

    Apr 29, 2015, 22:09 #70512

    Just heard JM on the radio and thought he sounded just about right for a winner of the PL with games to spare. His captain JT is like another Adams. Great leader who just got better at the end of his playing days. And winning 1-3 is true champion form against the team of the month. This is how I have always seen football and now it is up to the rest to catch their coat tails but reading Mourinho in the Indy this morning you sense he is already planning for next year otherwise he may be off again. Meanwhile Wenger still has two years of what - well perhaps AKB central can do a presentation on how they plan to win both the PL and CL in the next two seasons and maybe Wenger will be remembered by the footballing world as something other than an FA Cup specialist who was on the cusp for a decade. Up the Real Arsenal. If only ....

  49. Graham

    Apr 29, 2015, 21:55 #70511

    13 points behind but Wenger and the AKB's keep telling us the gap has closed.

  50. jjetplane

    Apr 29, 2015, 21:43 #70510

    Funny enough that just shows how boring Arsenal played for a coward's draw on Sunday. Why not just lose 6-0 and be done with it! Wait a minute. You are a bit slow on the uptake man in the mask - love Arsenal and have known we have needed a new coach since 2004. Where you been goody two shoes?

  51. AKB 2015

    Apr 29, 2015, 21:37 #70509

    Another cheap shot by jj,, you have never given any credit whatsoever to AFC. Why don't you say ur anti Arsenal football club? PS have you checked latest score at KP?

  52. jjetplane

    Apr 29, 2015, 20:40 #70508

    Looks like the Foxes are better fighters than Ivan's band of merry shoppers .....

  53. jjetplane

    Apr 29, 2015, 20:29 #70507

    Ivanson is Ivan Lower is ColesGaz is the Emirates Cup which Arseneich FC will now win every season & Maureen was doing a Fergie in the Indy today with talk that IF Arsenal get a top top GK, CB and Messi and Suarez then maybe just maybe they will get a draw at Bournemouth next season. It's all beginning to sound Invincible. What a lot of grinding out of results that Invincible mob put up but were still pretty **** in the trophy lane. Sol Campbell is now Boris's bestie mate. I am with the Spuds on that one now.

  54. Shu

    Apr 29, 2015, 20:15 #70505

    Maureen is a better manager than wenger , his recent signings a much better class. Tottenham are Burnley with money . 20'years how funny but really Tottenham don't count do they .

  55. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 29, 2015, 19:59 #70504

    Ron, 74316 lets hope there's more respect shown at the AKB funeral especially if they have a minutes silence than there was on Sunday (someone shouting out might really set them off)Someone mentioned yesterday an alternative for a minutes silence of some funeral music being played (apparently they do it in spain) maybe they'll do that on Saturday or at the next home game where all AKB's can dress in black and mourn, followed by a short service taken by the head AKB from central command of course, there are a few candidates on here for the job but I'll go for ty (in all his gear) sipping from his arsenal water bottle, and the only shouting you'll hear from the stands is those bloody referees it's not fair, in between we love you arsene and the sniffling into hankies.

  56. Hiccup

    Apr 29, 2015, 19:38 #70503

    E/G, I can't believe the bookies have paid out already? The evening's still young and Westie has yet to put his tuppence worth in yet. I think there's still more nonsense in the air that can even blow Jamie's riddle out of the water.

  57. Exeter Gunner

    Apr 29, 2015, 19:29 #70502

    Hiccup - I think Jamie was just rising to your challenge to raise Theo and Ivan. I put on a fiver and have walked away with £7.

  58. Hiccup

    Apr 29, 2015, 19:20 #70501

    Nice of Jamie to clear up exactly what Ivan was trying to say. Now can anyone please try and explain just what the hell Jamie is trying to say?

  59. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 29, 2015, 19:13 #70500

    Ron, you weren't wrong yesterday when you said Hiccup always raises a smile well he's done it again only this time it's a lot more than a smile with his post 74315 Hilarious. Post of the day so far.

  60. Exeter Gunner

    Apr 29, 2015, 19:09 #70499

    Anfield, 26 May 1989: Jamerson bewildered as everyone around him goes bananas. "It's not a proper title" thinks Jamerson, "we've lost 6 games this season".

  61. John F

    Apr 29, 2015, 19:07 #70498

    Good post Lord Froth except the one thing that Wenger has not learnt is playing players out of position.Playing Ramsey out wide not only could destroy his confidence it just does not work.Burnley'Reading,Chelsea games were crying out for the ball to be used more down the channels instead Ramsey was wandering into the already congested middle.Even Ramsey himself says he does not like playing wide.I know I haven't work a day in football but surely my degree in the bleeding obvious must mean something.

  62. jeff wright

    Apr 29, 2015, 18:56 #70497

    Jamerson it is actually possible to go through a season unbeaten and get relegated . Your points are again just more nonsense .

  63. Exeter Gunner

    Apr 29, 2015, 18:42 #70496

    Jamerson - so you're saying Arsenal have only really won the league once in their history?

  64. Fred Street

    Apr 29, 2015, 18:20 #70495

    maguiresbridge- True mate, although given that no matter how many times we watch Dortmund and Atletico usurp their richer rivals after being told by AKB Central Command that it's impossible, they will always find an excuse for their deity.

  65. Hiccup

    Apr 29, 2015, 17:35 #70494

    Look, as long as we're a better team than Spurs, that's all that really matters. Anything else is a bonus. Being the best team in Europe though is progress. This time next year Rodney, we'll be the best team in the world!

  66. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 29, 2015, 17:29 #70493

    Fred Street, you've just given them the excuse they need for failure early next season even before this ones even over, and you can be sure it'll be used so keep a note.

  67. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 29, 2015, 17:09 #70492

    Bard, yes all those stats have to be factored in.

  68. Ron

    Apr 29, 2015, 17:02 #70491

    EG - Please be silent Sir if you dont mind. There's a funeral on. The AKB is being thrown on to the pyre as as we speak. R.I.P to them all. The Right Rev Badarse has issued the last rites and will hurl himself on lastly.

  69. Hiccup

    Apr 29, 2015, 17:01 #70490

    It's blatantly clear that the AKB's and the employers at arsenal fc have been in direct competition with each other over the last 24 hours as to who can spout the biggest pile of crap. Some of the AKB drivel on this site over the last 24 hours has been vintage. Then we have Ivan talking like a ventriloquist's dummy with Westie's arm up his arse. Cue Theo to drop in on the bollock fest with we are the best team in Europe this calendar year. Yes Theo, we've only played one mediocre non English team this calendar year who dumped us out the CL. Which dipstick AKB on here is going to raise Theo and Ivan with we've been the best team in Europe this season? Odds are Westie 1/3. Jamie 2/5. Coldsore boy evens. Baddie to return this week 2/1. He's definitely on the cusp of returning.

  70. Fred Street

    Apr 29, 2015, 17:00 #70489

    Lord Froth- I'm afraid the Copa America in Chile this Summer and the centennial event in North America next Summer are going to fatigue numerous Premier League players, including our best player and saviour on many occasions this season.

  71. Exeter Gunner

    Apr 29, 2015, 16:50 #70488

    "We may never reach our destination" Ivan Gazidis. They don't want to reach a destination, they want to stay on the gravy train. This notion that AFC are about something more than winning, about a style of play and a way of behaving, is just a front for the lack of sporting ambition. If those running the club really wanted it to represent something 'noble' or 'decent' to be 'proud' of, they wouldn't jump into bed with every sponsor that offered them some cash (from credit cards to holidays to mobile phones), they'd make sure their contractors pay the staff the living wage. It's just a marketing angle, a self-evident load of old cobblers. And people fall for it!

  72. Bard

    Apr 29, 2015, 16:32 #70487

    Jamerson they are very interesting stats. I interpret them like this. We are on the cusp or if you prefer just off the shoulder, or even better nearly there. I think I will photoshop that post and put it on my wall alongside all the other nuances, like the most number of shirts sold in the Yemen 2003 ( its one of my favourites).Its alongside, playing surface of the year 2007. I think I know what Ivan means. you have to look at the big picture.

  73. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 29, 2015, 16:30 #70486

    Ron, indeed it does, would the last real supporter to leave the Emirates please turn out the lights.

  74. Gaz

    Apr 29, 2015, 16:28 #70485

    Cant deny as soon as I read those Gazidis comments I wanted to kick the TV in as It's exactly the kind of stupid boll*x that gets on my t*ts. But perhaps Le Grove has a point when he suggests those comments weren't Gazidis seriously suggesting trophies aren't that important but it was a pi*s take out of chelsea and their 'Champions league' songs towards us on Sunday. So with that in mind it would be interesting to understand the context behind those comments...

  75. Ron

    Apr 29, 2015, 16:07 #70484

    We had that season 3/4 yrs back when Utd hammered all the middle and bottom sides and barely gathered a point v the top 4 and won the title but its rare isnt it. The Champs normally defeat most of the best. Youre right though, Arsenal have more banana skins than the best of the rest. Its because they dont play the game properly. They scrap and fight, theyre dirty and cause all of our injuries and have bumpy pitches They always want to play when we ve been in Europe too. This ignores the nasty crowds who shout up for them and say nasty things to our great leader. The refs always have bad games at the lesser stadia too. There needs to be rule changes that allow a series of 'byes' for Arsenal, where the day of the fixture is awkward or the weather is inclement. The whole 38 game fixture program is biased against Arsenal and the press never speak up for them.

  76. King Jeremy

    Apr 29, 2015, 15:31 #70483

    Can't help but think this piece misses the point somewhat. Wenger doesn't need to beat Mourinho, he just needs to pick up more points that him against everyone else over 36 games (ok, and not lose to him over the other 2!). This season is proof that the odd point dropped here and there comes back to bite you, for example at Everton, Swansea, Leicester and Stoke. And there's the problem with Wenger teams - for every run of form like we have been on recently (title-winning form by any measure) there is an Everton, Swansea, Leciester and Stoke just aroung the corner. It has been that way for many seasons now and will be like that again next season I'm sure. For that reason, I believe it's time to say "Merci", move the man upstairs and bring in fresh blood to move the club forward.

  77. Lord Froth

    Apr 29, 2015, 15:12 #70482

    I've been wanting Arsene out over the last couple of seasons, not because I don't like him but becuase he didn't seem to be adapting and so I thought his day had come. However, this season he has shown signs of adapting (cedeing possession to Man City and and the team employing cynical tactics against Chelsea)or has been forced to adapt (bringing back Coq as DM)and so as it stand right at this moment in time I believe that the team have a very good chance next year to kick on. Some of the holes in the squad defence numbers have been adequately filled and next season as the there is no tournament in the summer all the players have the opportunity to have a good pre-season and hit the ground running. Wenger will still be manager next season so I will drink the elixir of optimism and hope that we can carry this form into next season. Bear in mind that everyone is lauding Jose's tactics but he was an Ozil leg-swing away from losing that game. People forget that we weren't really desperate to win either as we have a game in hand on the Mancs and are on a good run of form. The Chelsea fans make me laugh though "Oh, we are not bothered about Arsenal, blah, blah, blah" but they still have the chip on their shoulder about how we dominated them for decades and have 13 league titles and they have really tried to force a rivalry with us over the years. A few fans claiming they're boring also seems to have struck a nerve as everyone seems to be forgetting that at the start of the season they were all mouthing off about going the season unbeaten. Jose would love that. Winning the league is not a unique achievement, an unbeaten season in the PL is. How's that turned out for you Chelsea fans?

  78. billthered

    Apr 29, 2015, 14:43 #70481

    Moanino said it is boring not to win the title in eleven years what he needs to know if that stretched to fifty years then it would probably take a sugar daddy to throw untold millions at the club to get them out of that sticky hole,but who will tell him that, not any of the a**e licking press thats for sure.

  79. Ron

    Apr 29, 2015, 14:36 #70480

    The Ivan Gazadis comments ends all debate really. At least now the Club has come clean and confirmed to those of us who had worked it out a few years back that its not interested in competing. However, hes single handedly killed of every AKB opinion so i suppose we can thank him for that. I hope theyre all feeling fit and well. They can have 2 Messiahs now, 'Ive and Arse'! Happy days Westie, im betting you've got a warm glow surrounding you today? A fellow defeatist in high places indeed?

  80. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 29, 2015, 14:02 #70479

    Yes that statement from TKOS will be music to the ears of the wengerites who would rather we play pretty football and look good even if it meant getting beat and winning fook all.

  81. Jamerson

    Apr 29, 2015, 13:28 #70477

    Since we won the league last our average league finish has been 3.2 compared to Chelsea's 2.4 not a huge difference,the spuds have averaged 6.9.

  82. maguiresbridge gooner

    Apr 29, 2015, 12:49 #70476

    It's an embarrassment alright but not for the fans ( wengerites excepted)others expect nothing else, but it's a bigger embarrassment for OGL himself for one with such an ego and was and is so disrespected by Mourinho not being able to beat him or get the better or even one over him must be eating away at him and his ego, but like you say there's always next year and the partying can begin, but I wouldn't hold your breath.

  83. Wilshere likes a fag

    Apr 29, 2015, 12:10 #70475

    Mourinho joined Chelsea the season after the Invincibles.That was when we had a team 10 times better than we have today yet Mourinho demolished Wenger.Yes Arsenal are the bigger team over the last 100 years but in the last 10 years Chelsea have been streets ahead of us.And they was even when Mourino left.The biggest killer ever was Chelsea winning the CL before us.But dont worry Ivan the Terrible says its not about trophies its all about pride.Remember those words will you renew your ST's

  84. Bard

    Apr 29, 2015, 11:55 #70474

    The Tottenham slant appeals to the smallminded who see the season defined by whether we beat them or not. They are an irrelevance. Similarly the obsession with Maureen is equally pointless. We need to be thinking about how we avoid being out of competitions before they start, stop so many players getting injured, develop mental resilience as well as defensive solidity. Buy a f****** world class goalkeeper and CB, the rest The rest will take of itself.

  85. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Apr 29, 2015, 11:36 #70472

    What is the point of this article? That we are better than Spurs but not better than Chelsea? Give the writer some kind of award for stating the obvious.

  86. Tony Evans

    Apr 29, 2015, 11:28 #70471

    Avenell Road - I read that load of meaningless trip as well. As you say winning the CL would make us proud, and also not being stuffed 8-2, 6-0,6-3, 5-1 etc etc would help. So we are meant to be proud of the 'Arsenal Way' whatever that is! This is a football team, Gazedis, in case you hadn't noticed!

  87. Avenell Road

    Apr 29, 2015, 11:11 #70470

    I see old Ivan the Terrible has come out today and said that 'We don't want to win the Champions League, we want to make our fans proud'. You can make us proud by winning the Champions League mate!

  88. Exeter Gunner

    Apr 29, 2015, 10:46 #70469

    I'd agree we've hit a glass ceiling under Wenger, but disagree that the North London derby has been 'destroyed'. There's been a few battles with them for that 4th place the last few seasons to suggest otherwise.

  89. blackrat

    Apr 29, 2015, 10:36 #70468

    we beat them 5-3

  90. jeff wright

    Apr 29, 2015, 10:09 #70466

    The reason why Wenger can't beat Mourinho is not down to money .There were times when Wenger had better sides out against the mouthy one such as in the League Cup final in Cardiff and even though we scored first Wenger still ended up losing the final. A mental thing being involved looks unlikely with Wenger's massive ego having to be taken account of .So in my view it's all about tactics .As Henry said last Sunday Mourinho has sussed Wenger out and knows how to play against him. On another note there is a horse called Mertesacker running at Wolverhampton in the 2.45. I looked at the beast's form and it is slow and one paced,so easy to see how it received its name ! Mertesacker is trained by a man called Dickin. You couldn't make it up.

  91. Retain the FA Cup a la 2003

    Apr 29, 2015, 10:00 #70465

    Wenger doesn't have to beat Mourinho to win the league. He has to beat Steve Bruce (at Emirates) and Pochettino home & away. No smile on Mourinho's face when Arsenal won FA Cup & he won nothing!

  92. divingrooney

    Apr 29, 2015, 9:58 #70464

    Chelsea have a lower wage bill than Arsenal ------------ How do you know that? Chelsea report football wages separately, but Arsenal provide only one report for entire club. Chelsea have an incestous relation with Vitese, a cub owned by Abrahmovich stooge, where all their expensive kids go on loan. And they can show any loan fees received, and all wages paid by Vitese. When in truth, they are being paid by Chelsea. Man City are also considering the same arrangement with some other league club, so they can also bring down their wage bill.

  93. Bye Bye Arsene

    Apr 29, 2015, 9:49 #70463

    If you had beaten Spurs home and away instead of dropping four points you might have won the title, Happy Days !!! suck it up Gooner !!!!!!

  94. goonercolesyboy

    Apr 29, 2015, 9:34 #70462

    Interesting that Tony, seeing as of April 2015 Chelsea were third in the table of highest wage bills after the manc clubs.

  95. Tony

    Apr 29, 2015, 9:22 #70461

    Chelsea have a lower wage bill than Arsenal and last summer had a lower net spend than Arsenal.They are champions because the Special one bought better players than the Specialist in Failure.We signed Ospina Debuchey Chambers and Welbad.They signed Cesc Matic Costa and recalled Courtois.Will we ever win the Prem under Wenger again?NO