Has Arsene Wenger changed his approach to make Arsenal genuine title contenders?

Was the West Ham defeat just an aberration?



Has Arsene Wenger changed his approach to make Arsenal genuine title contenders?

Benzema – Probably needed if Gunners are to push on


Over the past two years, Arsene Wenger has dramatically changed tack in terms of recruitment. In 2013, Mesut Ozil arrived from Real Madrid for upwards of £40 million, while Alexis Sanchez joined the club last year in a deal worth around £35 million.

After nine trophyless years, Arsenal have now won consecutive FA Cups, and the signings of Ozil and Alexis have contributed towards the reinvigoration of a club that had forgotten how to win honours.

Prior to the signing of Ozil, Wenger practised a reserved and precautious recruitment policy, thoroughly researching potential targets that wouldn’t break the bank. Arsenal have always spent a lot of money on player wages - they are Champions League mainstays after all, and players joining an elite club often believe they are deserving of elite salaries. But until 2013, the Gunners’ record signing was still Andrei Arshavin, who joined for around £15 million in 2009.

Even North London rivals Tottenham were shelling out higher transfer fees at the time, splurging £16.5 million on Darren Bent and Luka Modric respectively. Arsenal spent the next four years finishing within the top four, qualifying for the Champions League but not really getting anywhere. Wenger knew something had to change.

The catalyst

After a 3-1 home defeat to Aston Villa on the opening day of the 2013-14 campaign, Arsenal almost tripled their record outgoing fee by signing Ozil, a palpably crowd pleasing deal at the time. Although the German struggled in his first season in England, Arsenal went on to win the FA Cup.

The following year, Alexis joined. He enjoyed an excellent debut Premier League campaign, going on to score at Wembley and contributing to another FA Cup win. Two trophies in two years has seen the Gunners tipped to go for further glory this year and perhaps even challenge for the league title.

Petr Cech, dubbed the signing of the summer by many, arrived from Chelsea to the delight of the Arsenal support. But his performance in the opening day defeat to West Ham, coupled with the Gunners’ generally flaky display - one we’ve seen many times before - has raised serious questions regarding the team’s title credentials.

The goalkeeper has been a problem area for Arsenal for a number of years now and, despite his uncharacteristic mistakes last weekend, Cech is a useful signing. But perhaps what Arsenal really need is another arrival similar to that of Ozil or Alexis. An impact player who will win games when Alexis can’t. A world-class playmaker who can thread the ball through the eye of a needle when Ozil is out of form. Arsenal have some superb footballers, but not enough depth.

Karim Benzema continues to be linked with a move to the Emirates. He’d be ideal and would match the ambition Wenger has shown in recent transfer windows. But it’s not just the business side of things the Arsenal manager has changed in order to instil a winning mentality.

Other concerns

By introducing Francis Coquelin to the side last season, Wenger resolved another issue that had plagued Arsenal for much of the last decade. Particularly at home, the Gunners’ back four have lacked protection in recent seasons, and Coquelin has gone a long way in preventing the defence being exposed. His youthful desire (the Frenchman is 24, but is a young man in terms of Premier League experience) means his shortcomings are often forgiven. Arsenal fans would prefer a better passer in the holding role, but with a lack of recruitable alternatives, Coquelin is a plausible option to continue in defensive midfield. In addition to that, he is proof that Wenger is willing to rectify issues in the team he may have previously ignored.

In terms of the team’s tactical system, not much has changed since before the FA Cup wins. Wenger is still stubborn with his 4-2-3-1 formation, switching between Theo Walcott and Olivier Giroud up front depending on the opponent. The Arsenal manager has been criticised in the recent past for moving the likes of Ozil and Santi Cazorla out wide instead of utilising their strengths in the middle. Maybe this year he’ll find a way to use all of his players in their ideal positions, but it’s a difficult task given the quantitative depth Arsenal possess in midfield.

Without question, Arsene Wenger has instilled a revamped approach at Arsenal over the past couple of years. It will be interesting to see whether they can kick on this year, but another marquee signing may be needed if they are to really challenge the likes of Chelsea and Manchester City.


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  1. Nick

    Aug 18, 2015, 10:39 #74347

    Mbg, I didn't say I think Wenger is a bad manager but that hes not a fighter in the same way George Graham was, he's more likely to be a peace envoy than a warrior, he doesn't lack courage, but he certainly does SULK, that MUST affect the squads morale, it certainly did after the horrors at Birmingham in 2008, in my opinion Gallas should never have put on the shirt again and should have stripped of the captaincy there and them and transfer listed, Adebarndoors failure to square an easy ball to Bendtner which would surely have seen us secure the game and go eight points clear should have resulted in a flaying and him being dropped,but that is not Wengers way he merely consoled and complained bitterly of the unfairness of it all, true Neville Chamberlain style when what was needed was a Churchillian type rallying speech to inspire the team to fight back all the harder, as I said there have been other incidents where instead of being spurred on by injustice we have sulked very like our manager the result being that we simply implode. Wengers cannot change his character but he COULD hire an assistant manager with balls to do and say the things he is incapable of, ala Clough and Taylor, his stubborn streak and an inability to accept he is wrong prevents that happening, we shall have to hope that his more positive qualities overcome the negative and the team can push on and finally win the title again, I just hope that we do not suffer any setbacks akin to those of 2008, or our hopes will surely be dashed .

  2. mbg

    Aug 17, 2015, 13:49 #74310

    Nick, excellent post, George Graham certainly knew how to rally the troops in times of need and made sure those incidents helped us and worked in our favour. Can you just imagine if the same or similar happened now, or two, three, four, years back, would this old fraud of a manager be able to rally the troops like George did and get the best out of them? (he can't do it now) would he be able to turn it to our advantage? would he fook not a hope, you could just imagine the sulking crying and whinging from him now the excuses the injustices (as well as his fans)and he'd have the players at it also, there would be total meltdown we'd probably never recover.

  3. Nick

    Aug 17, 2015, 10:34 #74295

    Under Wenger when we are hit by adversity we always sulk and crumble the Eduardo horror injury at Birmingham is a prime example, we did go on to take the lead in that game but failed to clinch it thanks to the selfishness of Adebarndoor, then panicked in defense and were punished by a wrongful penalty, the reaction of Galla was hugely damaging to team morale too, under George Graham we would have used the injustice of that result to push on but under Wenger we merely sulked and felt sorry for ourselves, under Graham we had two points deducted for a melee started by manures Brian Mclair but they were only docked one point we had Tony Adams go inside for drink driving in 91 on too but went on the win the title in convincing fashion, after the unbeaten run came to an end at ot thanks to the cheating of Shrek we folded too instead of using the unfairness of it to fuel our hunger to succeed, our teams mental strength reflects our managers, and Wenger is a sulked more than a fighter ,we have had better players than manure for some time now but the fear factor which I believe emanates from Wenger transmits to the team when we play them effectively hamstringing us against them, a solitary cup win against them in recent times is evidence of that , Wenger is certainly more a Neville Chamberlain than a Churchill !

  4. Chesham Gooner

    Aug 17, 2015, 9:51 #74288

    LOL at Finsbury Joe - 2 goal collapse at home to the mighty Stoke. Well played fella!

  5. Mark from Aylesbury

    Aug 17, 2015, 8:36 #74286

    Anybody think that Cesc has put on a bit of spread around the belly. Looked very slow and chunky. Think Chelsea will be found out if attacked at pace. Good recovery from us but why the hell was Kos ( who is brave ) turning his back on the ball. I would much rather put up with a deflected own goal rather than our defence look like quivering whippets.

  6. Ozzie

    Aug 17, 2015, 6:51 #74285

    Cant predict the future but not taking many positives from the first two games, it's the same old story up front with oodles of buildup and no finish; in fact, I am staggered at the missed opportunities. Against WHU last week Aresenal should have been 3 up inside 30 minutes then finished up losing two nil (at home to boot!) How easy it would be to mourn fortress Highbury. I still believe Ramsey was a one-year wonder and would have liked to have seen Jack sold while there was interest. We badly need another creative forward.O

  7. tiny pepe

    Aug 16, 2015, 23:41 #74284

    Hey mbg. You have so much to say yet so little to comment aka jeffwright. Easy peasey trois point easy.

  8. mbg

    Aug 16, 2015, 21:46 #74283

    jj, as far as wally watch goes didn't hear anything from him after the game i could have missed it of course as the cart horse was enough, but i suppose the crap he talked in his interview before hand at London Colney was enough to qualify him for this weeks £140,000 and he probably got a nice bonus from adidas for showing off his/their flip flops.

  9. Cyril

    Aug 16, 2015, 21:45 #74282

    Ron, if you are about in cyberspace - I'm sure you would agree that Mesut Ozil is a different level. His movement and subtle passing is as good as bergkamp. I can't speak more highly of his contribution. His performance in the Fa cup final was outstanding. He is without DOUBT worth every penny we paid for him. I don't know what to say to people who don't understand his excellence. Coyg...

  10. Spaced

    Aug 16, 2015, 21:13 #74281

    Clung on for the win at the end, looked a little desperate, but a good 3 points and will settle some nerves. Including mine. Hope the team gel quickly and start to find their form. - - Thanks for the article Matthew. A top striker would not go amiss.

  11. jjetplane

    Aug 16, 2015, 20:17 #74280

    Okd Roman (Thaddeus - Jamerson) looked mighty unhappy last week so he must be fuming now but suprised at being turned over? That ground thing sounds like his Yacht - plain ugly. Arsene must be happy tonight but he shoul;d be wottied that there are a few mid table teams who just won't roll over anymore. Palace were probably worth a point and no way can the BFG protect the Cech when he needs protecting himself. Love this Circus! AKBs bit quiet tonight let's be having yer! A win's a win - ask Delia.

  12. Mark from aylesbury

    Aug 16, 2015, 18:58 #74279

    A.few people on here have already alluded to it but something is going wrong at Chelses at least some of it is geo political with Roman holding onto his Roubles and probably having to pay "Roof Money" to Putin. Add the new ground costs ( yes Jeff 10 years too late) and as Ron says the limitations are there. Having lived in a Millwall area I have to say that 20-30% of Millwall supporters really do make you shake your head. However they did refuse to deal with the BNP as they would accept anyone who was prepared to clump someone in honour of their area. Their noble thuggery puts them head and shoulders over the arrogant but deeply insecure unpleasant Chavs.

  13. jeff wright

    Aug 16, 2015, 18:44 #74278

    Well that's 3 wins over The Eagles in a row ALL 2-1 ,so obviously no improvement on keeping clean sheets against them involved .Cech did no better than our previous GK's did. No surprise this really he is past his best and our defence despite claims to the contrary still look shaky on set pieces when high crosses are sent over ,it's flap flap flap... Anyway, the main is that it was 3 points for the 4th place trophy again and no need now for a costly panic buy to keep irate supporters quiet -well done Olly a good strike that one today if only he could do it more consistently .At least his numero one striker position is safe but the whispers about signing him or him will still continue as usual in the media. Our players and Wenger will be happy now that no one ,well any sane person that is , expects them to win the league .Wally is happy he gets paid 140k a week to watch our games . All the rest of us have to pay !

  14. jjetplane

    Aug 16, 2015, 18:20 #74277

    Listen to them Chelski fans on the radio and now Arsenal are 11th. The pain is all that matters in the PL and Citeh will buy Stones and that is that. Is getting even easier for the Arse but noy freshening up in the same way JM has not will tell. JM and Arsene might even become mates as underdogs. maybe a Arse v Chelski league Cup final! Exciting ****! One mention for Dickie going back to the Black Cats for an easy million. If they sack him he will probably get more. Anyway - what is Theo saying about .... the migrant situation and the new invincibles slow start ....

  15. jjetplane

    Aug 16, 2015, 18:04 #74276

    Plus Monreal's sister knows the ref so trying to kick player's heads off is fine if it's the Arsenal way. So Chelski are in meltdown which is Samsung super so can Arsenal if they win every game away get above Utd and Chelski and then maybe say no 'to another trip to Wembley which is in a sense a humilation for 19 years of being a top top coach. Can you remember when RM offered him a job/ There you have it. Mental spirit and the best armchair supporters in the land. THADDEUS time to deliver .....

  16. Hiccup

    Aug 16, 2015, 16:52 #74274

    Some people are never happy, even when we win, and still want to moan about the ref? The bloke does us a favour by telling us sub him before I send him off, and the ref still gets criticised? You couldn't make it up. Can you imagine the uproar on here had this favour happened for the opposition? There'd be uproar!

  17. mbg

    Aug 16, 2015, 16:41 #74273

    Does this mean we're going to win the league.

  18. Arseneknewbest

    Aug 16, 2015, 16:33 #74272

    Not quite as precarious as last season's win in the supermarket car park, but still a sense of hanging on. But at times we looked very good, esp first 15 minutes. crystal phalllus have developed real sense of entitlement, which is unfortunate, and might just spell trouble for them this season. Our midfield are going to have to learn to foul in rotation, otherwise FC's disciplinary record will make PV look like mahatma coat. A win, and one which won't ease the doubts about the current squad (which is positive considering we need a striker). Above the sours but below badarsio's mates at old trafford.

  19. Hiccup

    Aug 16, 2015, 16:14 #74271

    One ankle tapper in a team is allowable (because arsenal now have one), but four in a team shouldn't be allowed (unless of course arsenal ever have four).

  20. Bard

    Aug 16, 2015, 16:01 #74270

    Westie; on the contrary a top class game, thoroughly enjoyed it. As long as we get 20 chances a game we should do well. I thought we looked world beaters in the warm up.

  21. Westlower

    Aug 16, 2015, 15:42 #74269

    Why is it when Arsenal play an ankle tapper in midfield they live in fear of a red card while CFC play 4 of them and win a title because of it? Bad day for the miserable Gooners that weep & wail on this site.

  22. Wear Your Colours

    Aug 16, 2015, 15:30 #74268

    Good to get three points on the board. COYG!

  23. mbg

    Aug 16, 2015, 15:26 #74267

    Bard, your right he's to far gone.

  24. jjetplane

    Aug 16, 2015, 15:24 #74266

    Too tired for even a couple of selfies. Well done the ref and own goals away will win the PL ..... Game on! When will Coq get his first suspension. Mind you - Arteta put it about so the season has finally begun and the crows may return to their red and white fence. Onwards and not on the wings ....

  25. mbg

    Aug 16, 2015, 15:16 #74265

    Hiccup, indeed, there's two things this club and it's outdated manager has (and as I've already said ambition isn't one of them)is a bloody good spin department and gullible fans.

  26. jjetplane

    Aug 16, 2015, 14:57 #74264

    Interesting stat on 10 best scoring PL wingers featured Merse, Freddie and Pires. Sounds about right. Who would be in 10 worst? What - on 130 thou a week. Does he still do the touchline stuff when he is just sub or like Becks with England he gets the appearances for late come-ons.....

  27. John F

    Aug 16, 2015, 14:28 #74263

    I am writiñg this at half time so regardless of the result my opinion will not change.Playing with four central midfielders with two players who can play out wide on the bench is madness.So Mathew has Wenger changed his approach in playing people out of position the answer is No.It is almost as if he has his favourites that he will not drop regardless of the team shape.

  28. jjetplane

    Aug 16, 2015, 14:12 #74262

    One of JAMIE'S slaves been promoted from the junior sales team! It's all so very Augustan (not!). left out to dry by executive level staff at AKB who must be at Selhurst Park via Sky ...... Muggy day in Sarf Lundun - sounds ominous.

  29. Hiccup

    Aug 16, 2015, 13:24 #74261

    Is Tedious this new AKB legend that Jamie said was going to be appearing soon? Another shocking transfer from AKB HQ! Same sh!t, different name.

  30. jeff wright

    Aug 16, 2015, 13:11 #74260

    if you say so Tedious, but why not cut out the crap advising others on what THEIR VIEWS SHOULD BE.

  31. jjetplane

    Aug 16, 2015, 13:08 #74259

    Just looking at the TV rights sloshing around globally to the tune of 5 billion plus. The PL supporter in stadia is of little consequence and there was Arsene on the radio talking about 'pain and passion.' Thank **** for the Grass Roots game. First time he has posted as that particular personage (sic). Thaddeus Rose anyone? He has got that persecution thing going on too. Wonder where the chief wound-licker has dissappeared to? High on a mountain in the middle of a desert, waiting for a sign ....

  32. Hiccup

    Aug 16, 2015, 13:02 #74258

    Tedious, you were the one who came on here telling everyone to stop moaning? So only your view is permitted?

  33. jeff wright

    Aug 16, 2015, 12:28 #74257

    I was thinking Jamie/Pete is back myself Bard with the same old familiar gruff from Thaddeus - or more like Tedious ,as I predicted he would be. Tedious must get some sort of a kick out of posting his wind-up nonsense .Only a complete idiot would believe it.

  34. jjetplane

    Aug 16, 2015, 12:23 #74256

    See when JM was asked by media re Pello's new contract was he suprised. 'Why - some managers win nothing for 15 years and are still there' He's flapping old Jose but that is funny and above all true. The article above like most Rose tinted pieces (ho! ho!) contains some blinding padding like Benzema would be ideal for the Gunners to push on ... Benzema is at the stage where he would find himself on the bench at a full-strength Stoke City. Like others have said he has been blessed to play with some greats. Maybe this will be Stirling's year with the bunch he has around him now. What are the chances Citeh will be coming for Sanchez in the summer ..... ps Wonder also whether Ozil actually thought it would be an easy number at the Emirates under a bloke who's best retort is 'a little bit disrespectful' 15 years - fact.

  35. Bard

    Aug 16, 2015, 12:03 #74255

    Jeff; youre wasting your time responding, Im sure Thaddeus is Jamie/Jamerson/Pete et all. Im al for a change of moniker now and again but this is some kind of identity crisis.

  36. jjetplane

    Aug 16, 2015, 11:56 #74254

    Thaddeus (Roman Slave - do the math) - still trying to work out who he once was before the Lazarus complex took over with two FA Cup wins. On the FA Cup we nicked a result yesterday and are on the march to errr Wembley which is truly the excitement of the cup. I reckon Wenger will be dreading another FA Cup win and so tells them to relax, there's nothing on and hey presto! they win it. Cannot see Sanchez being happy with another appearance at Wembley while other teams are going hell out for some big stuff. Come May it can be imagined Ozil will be living in a capsule with his dogs, en route the moon. Hoping Chelski get thrashed today to see JM after and er what else is on. Ah yes - let the heroics begin or as the great Thaddeus says 'Let the pain be worth it ...'

  37. jeff wright

    Aug 16, 2015, 11:39 #74253

    Thaddeus ,if you are enjoying things so much then why don't you put a sock in it and stop moaning at others and just get on with enjoying the title challenges that you claim Wenger makes .Considering that we have not even finished second in the league, never mind first, though since 2014,you obviously must be living in a parallel world to the rest of us...... Leicester are top of the league with 6 points at present carrying on from their run of results at the end of last season that saw them avoiding relegation. I think old chap that if you compare the Foxes points won over the last 10 games played last term and the first two this, that they , along with City , are doing better than us in the calendar year champs stakes . You couldn't make it up.

  38. Hiccup

    Aug 16, 2015, 11:31 #74252

    Ron/Bard. Although I agree nothing has changed for us to win the league, I think what is important, is for fans to think we can win the league. As this article shows, there are those that really think things are changing. Having gone years with we can't possibly compete due to restricted finances, the fact that finances are apparently available, would suggest to some we can now compete? At the end of the day, this suits the club. I think they have realised over the last 10 years that arsenal fans are more than happy with things. With failure, will come excuses. and to be fair, the fans dream up these excuses. As one excuse becomes invalid and outdated, a new one will come along. We've seen plenty on here to suggest so. The West Ham game an ideal example. Failure this season will be met with another catalogue of mitigating circumstances, with extreme confidence that the next season will see use really go for the league. This is self perpetuating, and I really believe will run to infinity and beyond. But if everyone's happy, then so should we. Sideways and inwards.

  39. Jurgen Klopp

    Aug 16, 2015, 11:03 #74251

    Can I help?

  40. Bard

    Aug 16, 2015, 9:38 #74250

    Matthew; without wishing to be rude my first thought on reading your article is how much football do you watch ? There are sundry mistakes that have already been pointed out by others. But the most glaring is the notion that there has been a change in Wenger's approach and further that a couple of big signings will allow us to kick on. I dont know how many times it has to be said there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there is any change whatsoever in either the team or his approach. Yes he has spend a sheadload of money recently but that is because of fan pressure and to justify the hike in season ticket prices. Secondly it is pure spin that the club are 'really competing', the goal is to maximise profit while remaining there or thereabouts. If you want consistency then look at his strategy of making do. Last season we had only 2 cbs for most of the season and this year he is going to try and get away with one DM and Arteta. These are not the actions of a manager who is trying to win big trophies.

  41. Ron

    Aug 16, 2015, 9:04 #74249

    'revamped approach'? 'without question'? Can i ask you where have you been looking? AFC are not 'kicking on' and are certainly winning no titles under this Coach. With that squad and these tactics its as nigh close to an impossibility as is possible, especially when you factor in the reality that the Club doesn't want to raise its own bar. Its dreaming like this that stops the Club progressing. Enough's enough.

  42. CT Gooner

    Aug 16, 2015, 3:14 #74248

    Sorry Wengers a busted flush, sick of all the excuses and no action. We bought cech and sold podolski, net zero spend, can't see how that's turned us into contenders? Ozil is just hype, so expecting him to lead us to the promised land is folly.

  43. Finsbury Joe

    Aug 15, 2015, 21:20 #74247

    If Wenger gives the world another tactical masterclass tomorrow, Arsenal could well finish the day of the league. Cabaye could rip these spineless overpaid wasters to shreds. Sadly, these days, laugh at Arsenal and the whole world laughs with you

  44. Ho Hum

    Aug 15, 2015, 20:42 #74246

    In 2008 a series of accidents left us 9 points behind with 4 games left, although with the pressure off we did win all our remaining games to leave us only 4 points adrift but with unfortunately zero games to play. Classic mental strength from Le Fraud.

  45. mbg

    Aug 15, 2015, 18:53 #74244

    Thaddus, your messiah knows jack **** and couldn't deliver a letter.

  46. mbg

    Aug 15, 2015, 18:40 #74243

    Dartford, good shout, and I agree, for that dough a player should be hitting the ground running, no excuses period, but unfortunately some will say it takes a season or two to bed in and Acclimatize. And of course there's a reason why they'd say that.

  47. Hiccup

    Aug 15, 2015, 18:39 #74242

    Please let it be noted, Leicester are currently challenging for the title at this part of the campaign. When they are out of it by September, it will still be shown in the history books, that they competed for both the 2015 calendar title and the 2015/2016 football season title. It's amazing how a team challenging on so many fronts could be engulfed a relegation battle?

  48. jeff wright

    Aug 15, 2015, 17:56 #74241

    Mr multi name changer are you dense or what- we were not in a title winning position on the last day of the season so there was no title challenge - we went to pieces after the Brum game and were out of the title race weeks before the end .United won it Chelsea finished in second place and we in third .THE NEXT SEASON WE FINISHED 18 POINTS BEHIND UNITED ! You couldnt make it up.

  49. Jason

    Aug 15, 2015, 17:19 #74240

    Couldn't agree more with GoonerGooner. Quite frankly the captain issue is beyond embarrassing. How can the worst and the second worse players in the squad be captain and vice captain. Arsenal will never win the league again whilst Wenger is in charge, simple as that!!!! Anyone who believes otherwise is delusional.

  50. jjetplane

    Aug 15, 2015, 17:02 #74239

    Various parts of the campaign beats a calendar year anyday. perhaps WESTIE can supply the stats for these various parts when Wenger was competing? Matthew Harris must be part of new labour. The spin seems to have left him exhausted by the repetition. The argument that because he has spent 42m on a marquee player that means all change is laughable. As JW said Sanchez is the real deal and cannot remember Ozil running a single game yet in the manner of Sanchez. Silly article by a Wengerite. Time BADARSE delivered his ultimate sermon. He could deliver it at Pie Corner in a style similar to Ginsberg's Howl. Beat poetry would never be in better health. Did not get to my match 'cause i had to work on. I am praying we won.

  51. Cyril

    Aug 15, 2015, 16:45 #74237

    The worry is -what happens if and when we lose the 4th champ lge position. If Wenger/board doesn't act in the next 2 years and have a really good champ lge campaign, we could be left behind. In fact to me it's crucial. It's not just about qualifying right now. If we lost out one year and with our performances in this competition, could we still attract top players? Would our top players stay? We need to make our presence felt again in Europe and quick. What happens if Wenger leaves and the new chap has to qualify top 3. I just hope Wenger pushes us on before he goes or we could be caught between a rock and a hard place!

  52. jeff wright

    Aug 15, 2015, 16:36 #74235

    Only in your dreams it's a FACT that we have never been in with a chance mathematically of winning the league since he title win in 2004 on the last day. MOST SEASONS WE ARE OUT THE RACE BY AT LEAST MARCH,LAST SEASON IT WAS IN NOVEMBER . The question asked in the article is has Wenger changed his policies on a title challenge. So why not tell us what your views on that are Mr Numerous Names still no sense.

  53. Fact

    Aug 15, 2015, 16:16 #74234

    We challenged for the title in 2008, 2010, 2011, 2014 and 2015.

  54. jeff wright

    Aug 15, 2015, 16:01 #74233

    Wenger has not even managed a title challenge since 2004 - so what are you going on about ?

  55. jeff wright

    Aug 15, 2015, 14:52 #74230

    mbg,yes indeed, Arteta getting himself injured was a stroke of luck last term for Wenger. This resulted in le Coq having to be brought back from loan.Wenger's changing his ideas did not come into it.John I also make LVG more hungry for success than Arsene. 4th place would be no big shock for us with LVG having a stronger squad now.

  56. Dartford gooner

    Aug 15, 2015, 14:48 #74229

    Strange really the Coq plays badly against Westham and people are on his back. Ozil was crap but because he cost 42 million he gets away with it. World class players are meant to be able to grab a game by the throat not lose the ball and shrug their shoulders. No one can doubt the skill Ozil can bring to a game but where is the heart .How many great games has he had in his time at the club, not enough for the money we paid. For the money we paid and what he brings to the game give me Cazorla over Ozil any time.

  57. mbg

    Aug 15, 2015, 14:19 #74228

    jw, indeed it's hard to beat a bit of history rewriting and it always goes down well.

  58. John Gage

    Aug 15, 2015, 14:15 #74227

    I don't believe that Arsene Wenger has suddenly become a bad coach. I am also of the opinion that if he is to be blamed for bad results he should be given credit for good ones. Having said that the Premiership has moved on a lot since 1996, it is more professional, there is more technology involved now, diet and nutrition has advanced a great deal, and financially it is on another level. With that in mind, I'm sceptical whether Arsene Wenger has the necessary flexibility or fresh ideas needed to win a another Premiership title. After 19 years in charge, its also very rare to find a Manager who will have the same hunger and appetite to win as a younger man. My humble prediction is 3rd place with another domestic trophy.

  59. mbg

    Aug 15, 2015, 14:09 #74226

    Matthew, a lot of words there that don't comply, ambition? changed? challenge? but practice isn't one of them he's been doing that for a long long time, (unfortunately it's been with our club) and in this case it doesn't make perfect, but no better at all.

  60. jeff wright

    Aug 15, 2015, 11:29 #74223

    There is a rewriting of history going on here in this article. Wenger's introduction of Le Coq into the side last season was forced on him by injuries and not because he has changed his ideas. The signing of Ozil and Welbeck also were also forced on to him after a bad opening day result and advice couched in industrial terms by disgruntled supporters regarding Wenger and his use of the money that he was typically reluctant to spend. Yoiu couldn't make it up! There was no change though on a bad opening day result last Sunday - but no panic buys either this time. So far... Sanchez was a rare good signing made at the right time for the right reasons by Wenger,sadly however this is the exception and not the norm. Wenger admitted that the wins over Chelsea in the Shield and City away in the league last term - with us using non-Wenger type tactics - 0r anti-football ones as he calls them ,were the result of the players deciding to play that way .So then from what I can perceive there are no new policies from Arsene regarding a title challenge ,just deja vu the past 10 seasons with the 2 FA Cup wins - a trophy not considered worth bothering with for near a decade- now putting a bit of shine on the usual non-title challenge ,with a top 4 place still being the first trophy won. The lack of the new players being signed - such as a top striker - means that there will not be any realistic title challenge against City and Chelsea again. C'est la vie!

  61. Ogban

    Aug 15, 2015, 9:33 #74222

    Wenger's restraint in the market was forced on him by the financial state of the club at the time. If there is is change now, it is because the finances have improved. Simple

  62. GoonerGooner

    Aug 15, 2015, 9:14 #74221

    We still need a striker, centreback and a defensive midfielder. Without these it is going to be the same old **** in the league and champions league. Oh, please give us a ****ing captain worthy of the name.