#ThrowbackThursday - Liverpool at Home

Part one of a look back at past home games against Monday’s opposition



#ThrowbackThursday - Liverpool at Home

Jimmy Hill: Emergency linesman in the early 1970s


When you look at a map of Liverpool, one of the first things you'll notice is how much closer Anfield Road is to the Everton district of Liverpool than Goodison Park is. The fact of the matter is that the original tenants of Anfield were actually Everton and not Liverpool. The Toffees were the original Merseyside club, founder members of the Football League and the first Merseyside league champions in 1891. The foundation of Liverpool F.C. is directly linked to a dispute between Everton and their landlord at Anfield - John Houlding - a prominent member of Everton FC, as well as Conservative member of Liverpool City Council and later Lord Mayor of Liverpool who earned his fortune in the brewery business.

Houlding had wanted Everton to purchase Anfield from him by floating the club, which would have led to it being owned by a small number of large shareholders. As a result, Everton left Anfield for a new Stadium to the north of Liverpool’s Stanley Park, meaning that Houlding was the owner of an empty stadium and so decided to found a club to fill it. The original colours of Houlding's new club were the same as Everton's blue and white (red wasn't adopted by the club until 1894) and the intended name of the new club was to be Everton Athletic, however objections raised by the FA to this brazen attempt of identity theft by Houlding meant that he had to make do with calling his new Anfield-based club Liverpool FC. Also, despite the strong connections between the city of Liverpool and Irish Catholicism (Anfield actually named after a place in County Wexford), their founder was actually a prominent member of the Protestant Orange Order organisation.

The newly-founded Liverpool FC enjoyed immediate success, winning the Lancashire League in their inaugural season of 1892/93. By the time of their second season Liverpool were accepted into the Football League to replace fellow Merseysiders Bootle, who resigned from the League due to financial difficulties, and Accrington F.C., who after being relegated from the first division, decided to resign from the League rather than play in the Second Division. The other newly inducted side to the Football League for the 1893/94 season were Woolwich Arsenal. Liverpool FC finished their first season as unbeaten Second Division champions (one of only three English sides to go unbeaten all season - the other two being Preston North End in 1888/89 and Arsenal in 2003/04).

Despite this, at the time the Second Division Champions needed to win a test match against the bottom placed side in the First Division. Liverpool went on to beat Newton Heath (later renamed Manchester United) 2-0 at Blackburn's Ewood Park, to take their place in the top flight. Liverpool enjoyed success throughout their first two decades of existence and on headhunting Sunderland manager Tom Watson, who had won three titles in four years, the Reds won their first league title in 1901 and again in 1906.

Another little known fact however is that it was Woolwich Arsenal's Manor Ground and not Liverpool's Anfield that would be the first to term their home end as the 'Spion Kop' in 1904. The term is in reference to the Battle of Spion Kop during the Boer War in Natal, South Africa in 1900 (the Kop basically being an enormously steep hill). This military term was recognisable in Woolwich, being as it was and still is home to Royal Artillery barracks. The term was also recognisable on Merseyside as many of the local regiments were engaged in the Battle, suffering many losses and so, on opening their new embankment at Anfield in 1906 it became known under this name.

The earliest footage of a fixture between Woolwich Arsenal and Liverpool comes from the start of the 1911/12 season, which ended in a 2-2 draw. For Liverpool there would be two further back to back title wins in 1922 and 1923, however during the inter-war years the Reds had drifted into mid-table obscurity. Liverpool would however win a further league title in 1946/47 and reach an FA Cup final against Arsenal in 1950 (which they lost 2-0), with a side which featured players such as future manager Bob Paisley, Billy Liddell and Albert Stubbins (a picture of the latter actually appears on the famed cover of The Beatles' ‘Sergeant Pepper’s Lonely Hearts’ Club Band’ album). The Reds however were relegated to the second tier at the end of 1953/54, where they would remain for the next eight season.

Liverpool's revival would come as a result of the appointment of Bill Shankly as manager from Huddersfield in 1959, leading to the Reds winning the Second Division title in 1961/62. Liverpool's first game at Highbury on returning to the top tier after eight years came in March 1963, which ended in a 2-2 draw. They didn't have to wait long to return as the following week Arsenal were drawn at home to Liverpool in the fifth round of the FA Cup, a tie which Liverpool won 2-1. Liverpool were to visit Highbury again in the fifth round of the FA Cup the following year and triumph again, this time 1-0 with a goal from Ian St John, as well as a sending off for both Liverpool’s Ron Yeats and Arsenal’s Joe Baker.

Liverpool were to finish the 1963/64 season as champions of the old First Division, their rise back to prominence coinciding with the city of Liverpool's emergence as the epicentre of popular culture, as shown by this footage of the Kop singing The Beatles hit 'She Loves You' and the Bacharach penned ‘Anyone Who Had a Heart’ which was a number one for the recently departed Cilla Black, captured by a Panorama documentary in 1964. The Kop’s penchant for a pre-match sing along to the latest pop hits played over the tannoy at Anfield around this time most probably led to the adoption of ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone’ as their anthem. The link between this song and general ‘scouse-ness’ hails from the Mersey Beat group Gerry and the Pacemakers’ cover of this song in late 1963, (this song also chosen by Bill Shankly as one of his Desert Island Discs when he featured on the BBC radio show in 1965).

However the song was originally penned by prolific Broadway Show tune writers Rodgers and Hammerstein for the musical ‘Carousel’ in 1945. The song’s narrative of carrying on after bereavement meant that its first use in a footballing context actually involved Manchester United, as it was sung at a memorial service for those who lost their lives in the 1958 Munich Air Crash. Over the years, the song has been covered by artists as diverse as Doris Day, Frank Sinatra, Elvis Presley and Louis Armstrong, as well as sampled as sung by the Kop at the end of Pink Floyd’s 1971 track ‘Fearless’.

After winning their first FA Cup in 1965 Liverpool’s ‘all singing, all swinging’ reputation still followed them a year later on their visit to Highbury, as caught by the Match of the Day cameras in 1966. Liverpool left with a 1-0 victory over an Arsenal side minus their white sleeves, while on their way to another league title that season, with a goal from Ron Yeats. From the latter half of the 1960s however Shankly’s Liverpool failed to win another trophy. Arsenal also defeated Liverpool 2-1 on their way to their second successive League Cup Final in their fourth round tie at Highbury in October 1968.

By the time Liverpool visited Highbury in October 1970, as Frank McLintock pointed out in his post-match interview with Jimmy Hill, many of the sixties side of Ron Yeats and Ian St. John had moved on, replaced by younger players such as Emlyn Hughes and Steve Heighway. Arsenal ran out 2-0 winners on the day, with goals from George Graham and John Radford. Famously, at the end of that season Arsenal completed the double by beating Liverpool 2-1 in the 1971 FA Cup Final (footage of which I’m sure you’ve all seen, although probably not the Argentinian newsreel footage, as found here on YouTube.). Exactly one year on from the 1971 FA Cup Final, Liverpool’s visit to Highbury was their final game of the season with just one point separating Bill Shankly’s side from League leaders Derby County, after a run of thirteen wins out of fourteen games.

Liverpool captain Tommy Smith alleged that has team mate Emlyn Hughes had informed him that a number Arsenal players were willing to throw the match for £50 a man, though his revelation came long after Hughes had passed away and able to defend himself from the allegation. The result however ended 0-0, with the title going to Brian Clough’s Derby as a result. The following season – 1972/73 - as detailed in one of my previous articles, Liverpool pipped Arsenal to the title by three points to win their first trophy in seven years. Liverpool’s visit to Highbury that year ended in a 0-0 draw, best remembered for Jimmy Hill appearing as an emergency linesman due to the official getting injured mid-way through the game.

In 1974, at the age of sixty, Bill Shankly announced his retirement from the game with his assistant Bob Paisley taking over at the helm. Paisley would in turn go on to be more successful than Shanks, however his first season would be a collector’s item in the form of a rare trophy-less season at Anfield (there would only be three of which between 1973 and 1990!). Liverpool came runners up to Derby County in 1974/75, with Paisley’s first visit to Highbury as boss ending in a 2-0 victory for Arsenal in February 1975 (though Arsenal finished just four points off of relegation that season!). Bob Paisley would go on to rule in Europe also, however it would take him eight years before he attained a victory over Arsenal at Highbury.

Arsenal would be unbeaten against Liverpool at Highbury for ten games in all competitions between 1973 and 1982 (winning four, drawing six). During that time there was also the marathon four game Semi-Final, with footage here of the second replay at Villa Park and the victorious third replay at Highfield Road. Paisley’s first win at Highbury as Liverpool boss came with his final attempt in September 1982, in a 0-2 defeat for Arsenal with goals from David Hodgson and Phil Neal. After Paisley’s retirement in 1983, his successor Joe Fagan however would win at Highbury at the first attempt by the same score line exactly twelve months on.

Liverpool that season would complete a hat-trick of league titles, as well as a League, Milk Cup and European Cup treble. However life on Merseyside during the early to mid-1980s was far from glorious off the pitch for many, as told here in the ‘Yosser’s Story’ episode of Alan Bleasdale’s tragi-comedy series ‘Boys From The Blackstuff’, which @13.55 features a hilarious cameo appearance from Anfield heroes Sammy Lee and Graeme Souness. The latter would leave Merseyside after completing the treble in 1984 and, as seen by this footage of their trip to Highbury in September 1984, replaced by Jan Molby. An Arsenal side briefly riding high at the top of the table defeated Liverpool 3-1 with two goals from Brian Talbot and one from Tony Woodcock. Fagan too would retire at the end of that season, however – hoping to end his career on a high by retaining the European Cup – Fagan’s farewell was sadly blighted by the Heysel disaster, with footage here of a post-game interview with the BBC’s Barry Davies.

In the interview, Davies notes that before the game the evening had reminded him of Liverpool’s first European Cup win in 1977 and yet had felt the atmosphere by 1985 had become totally different that of eight years earlier. It is true that other factors also played a part in Heysel – such as poor policing and segregation by the Belgian Police, a decrepit stadium and rumours of far right infiltration from supporters of other English clubs among the Liverpool fans. One however cannot take away the wider social context of what was occurring on Merseyside at exactly the same time, out of the equation.

As seen from this documentary called ‘Tees Street Isn’t Working’ that very same year (although YouTube inaccurately states 1980, it was actually broadcast in ’85. The premise of which was similar to Benefits Street minus the soap opera production values of the latter), the brutalising effects of de-industrialisation on Merseyside had meant that the Panorama footage of the jovial Kop crowd of ’64 seemed light years away from the scenes of the baying mob at the Heysel Stadium in Brussels just over a couple of decades later.

To get back to the Football, Fagan’s retirement meant that – despite the continued presence of ex-Liverpool players Ronnie Moran and Roy Evans, as well as the appointment of Kenny Dalglish as Fagan’s successor - the last of Shankly’s original boot room had left the club. There would be further success under Dalglish, however – as will be seen in part two tomorrow – the years that followed Heysel would see the gradual decline of the red machine which dominated English and European football throughout the seventies and eighties.

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  1. Robert Greene

    Aug 22, 2015, 2:40 #74472

    Badarse/Upstart Crow. 'To be(ar) or not to b(ar)e? That is the question.....With a bare bodkin? Who would fardels bear,'

  2. mbg

    Aug 21, 2015, 12:33 #74450

    Smithy, you weren't actually expecting anything else.

  3. Seven Kings Gooner

    Aug 21, 2015, 12:32 #74449

    You are right Ron about Don & TV, both working class but one, Venables, had the press eating out of his hand and many fell for it, Jeff Powell used rave about TV as if he was some kind of a messiah. The real interesting story is that Ramsey and Venables both played for England & Spurs and both went on to manage England and both came from Dagenham. Although AR lost that Dagenham drawl, via elocution lessons, Ramsey did sound funny at times when pronouncing his "h's" a bit more like a Carry on character than a football manager.

  4. Ron

    Aug 21, 2015, 11:06 #74446

    SKG - Recall the Venables thing. There was a lot of truth in the rumours. Yes, the Old Etonian board at the time may have perceived DH like that, yet what was Venables if not 'working class'? Perhaps Dagenham ducking and diving wide boy isnt working class? DH was certainly a dignified man wasnt he. It bombed for him at WBA too. Hardly his best move was it.

  5. Seven Kings Gooner

    Aug 21, 2015, 10:24 #74444

    Ron ; saw Don play a couple of times but he was past his best when he joined Arsenal. I think DH would have been more suited to today's football structure by working with a director of football. Don, IMO was just a bit too working class for the Arsenal board and after he had steadied the club in the early 80's he found out that behind his back the board were trying to replace him. I think it was rumoured the Venables was being lined up. Don's work with Bertie Mee was what lifted us out of the doldrums and made us a force again, just a shame we could not have kept him happy. Still when your hometown club calls it is difficult to resist.

  6. Ron

    Aug 21, 2015, 9:51 #74442

    SKG - Don Howe was a very underrated Coach wasn't he and youve made a good point re CG and him.DH has gone down as some kind of 'prince of darkness' of defensive footie. He was far from it and i understand that at his best as a full back at WBA was a fine player. At least that was what my Dad used to say!

  7. Seven Kings Gooner

    Aug 21, 2015, 9:24 #74441

    Another great post Robert - loved the 1970 clip of the 2-0 win, especially the Jimmy Hill interview with Frank. Frank made a great point about how a team can develop by accident via injuries and loss of form. Watching Jon Sammels set up George Graham, first by winning the ball and then playing a sweet one two, reminded me of how Jon gradually fell out of favour as he lost confidence and form. Charlie George came back that season around Christmas I think and although Jon still featured, when it came to run in Charlie was vital to the cause. However when you consider JS's workrate compared to CG, who would explode in games, many coaches may have stuck with Jon. It was of course Charlie's brilliant purple patches that saw us win the double, shame Don Howe left the club the following season because Don knew how to press Charlie's buttons, I don't think CG was ever the same without his mentor Don Howe.

  8. Smithy

    Aug 21, 2015, 8:51 #74440

    It's looking a bit grim transfer wise. Going into the season with two recognised strikers, an impact sub and a young lad up front.Giroud, welbeck and Walcott are all too inconsistent . Iwobi looked promising in the friendlies but....I would love a cavanni but don't think he or any others of similar standard will be signed. It is far more likely that we will get another unknown from the French 2nd division. I am not money obsessed but am acutely aware that Sanchez cannot do it all on his own. After all we had Denis and Thierry at the same time. Wrighty floating about also. Other than Sanchez which other striker at the club will score 20 goals?

  9. Badarse

    Aug 21, 2015, 4:23 #74439

    Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water...Da, Dum,...Da, Dum,...Da, Da, Da, Da, Da, Dum. 'Baby Commie Back' was a hit for the Equals, sung by Miaow Tse Tung, the wicked feline of the East, not to be confused with 'Get Back', sung by Sweet Loretta Martin-that was just a Bootle's song. Anyway wRONg was often, mainly due to his failed affair with a party worker-all those balloons and 'poppers'! He had a strong love of Blue Moon, Leicester, Everton, Mourhino and the Smurfs, and it can be said the red mist never descended, in fact he never saw red at all. Sadly it was destined to be that his ex-lover would just keep turning up-that was the cross-stitch he had to bare. @Bard when Liverpool came up and began their championship season I was 15 going on 16, and they were newcomers-Everton were rich and established as a regular and successful First Division side. After a title win in '64 and possibly one of the bleakest Cup Final wins in '65 it was true they had arrived, but one swallow doesn't make a spring roll, though if you go to Birdching you might find one. By 1970 Everton were back at the top as Champions with a great team-we took their crown in '71-playing very good football, Liverpool were still a pale imitation at this point, but naturally were establishing themselves. Of course the coarse, course of history can be a cussed curse-but that's a personal view.

  10. John F

    Aug 20, 2015, 21:57 #74436

    Thanks Robert I really enjoyed watching the Argentine you tube clip.I was only eight at the time but I always remember being upset at willow for not covering the near post for the Liverpool goal and of course Charlie's screamer.I named my first lad after him unfortunately my ex wife would not let me call my second George.

  11. Bard

    Aug 20, 2015, 21:19 #74435

    AKB mate dont get drawn into it, Baddie throws in these little wind up. He just likes the attention. Liverpool at that time were a truly top club. They dominated in a way that even Untd never were able to. Everton were a blip n the radar.

  12. Arseneknewbest

    Aug 20, 2015, 20:44 #74434

    badanus - you just don't get it do you? This site is awash with people critiquing your persistent verbiage and contrariness, and then you come our With that little nugget of shi'ite about everton being bigger than liverpool. You live in an orwellian nightmare of double-speak. You're a half-arsed troll my man - time to put the lap-top back in your carer's cupboard.

  13. Badarse

    Aug 20, 2015, 19:46 #74433

    So funny Bard-it really tickled me. Seems a couple doth protest too much? Slipped into Shakespeare-speak share, shape shift, shag pair, shrek spar, shop front there. Did you know 'backing a horse' was a phrase first penned by the Upstart Crow? I know because he mentioned it to westlower when they met on his Cambridge Tour. Was at the Jimmy Hill lino game. Much amusement on the North Bank that afternoon. Due to my age and my personal perspective, I still regard Everton as the big club, and dare I say Liverpool as the Upstart Crows.

  14. Bard

    Aug 20, 2015, 19:17 #74431

    They were a top side and dominated football in my youth. Great managers and some great players. Interesting little aside that Tommy Case suggested, although unconfirmed, that Arsenal players were willing to throw a game. You forget how much match fixing there was in those days, much of it undetected. When there is a lot of huffing about the money in the game today its a salutary reminder that football has always attracted slightly dodgy people and practices. Arsenal were not above it all. @Baddie you played a blinder mate with that post. I had an email from Colsey who has only got to the second line after spending all day with a dictionary and a decoder.

  15. mbg

    Aug 20, 2015, 17:54 #74430

    Cyril, it's already been touched upon by jw, and Big Andy, but i'd pay good money for that scenario again/now where the current manager moves on (i'm being polite)and the rest is history.

  16. Cyril

    Aug 20, 2015, 16:53 #74429

    Tony,that's right. I seem to recall he scored just before half time and the North bank singing "we've got Talbot,we've got Talbot, you ain't" everytime they had a freekick. By the end the whole ground was rocking and singing "we are top of the league". I firmly believe that result was the beginning of getting the belief back that we could be a force in the league again. Perhaps Don Howe's finest game as manager. 2 years on and GG takes over and the rest is history. I'd pay good money for a copy of that game Tony.

  17. jjetplane

    Aug 20, 2015, 15:43 #74428

    Just finished that and a great read and shall dig out my Blackstuff DVD for another whirl. Just coincidentally finished reading Kevin Sampson's Stars are Stars which charts those Thatcherite 80s from a musical viewpoint though the culture of the streets is well documented. Still remember seeing the 60s Liverpool teams and in those days every kid knew the first team of most clubs in the 1st division. Plenty of youngsters are still carrying on that culture with mags and cards so all is not lost. The big difference is very few had their club shirts on their backs in those days. The picture accompanying this is pure summation and i nicked it for the computer background. Happy black and white days and eternal Holloway connections. Should be an interesting game on Monday and Liverpool may have got a sense of winning about them again so a big test. Silly point but it has always interested me hoe the fundamental colours of clubs have such distinctive shadings. There's reds and reds and there are blues and blues. Perhaps this will be a light blue season which also takes us back to the 60s. The compression is amazing.

  18. mbg

    Aug 20, 2015, 15:02 #74427

    Robert, good piece, a very easy read and no need to digest at all, unlike others on here that would give you indigestion that's if you bothered to read and not just speed read or scroll past. Some great titbits Irish angle and all that, and you can just imagine some of wengers pampered luvvies and premadonnas (and even himself)splashing water on their faces and over their precious haircuts or drinking out of a white dairy maids milk bucket today. Good read.

  19. Tony Evans

    Aug 20, 2015, 13:53 #74426

    Cyril - I was at the 3-1 Liverpool game too and I agree it is one of those matches that stays in the memory. Noddy Talbot took a mean free kick didn't he and he scored several crackers.

  20. cyril

    Aug 20, 2015, 13:41 #74425

    Great article. My first ever game was the 2 nil defeat in 83 and had the pleasure of seeing Dalglish at the height of his powers. He bent one into the top corner of the clock end from just inside the box. World class that man! I was at the 3 -1 victory the following year and to this day that game would be in my top 5 Arsenal victories seen live. Nobody beat Liverpool like that in those days, and I seem to recall Mariner or Woodcock turning Grobbelaar for an open goal to go 4 nil up and Hansen just getting there on the line. What was even sweeter was in school on Monday, I took plenty of 10 and 20p's from all the London scousers; of which there were plenty at the time. Thank you for triggering those memories. Brilliant stuff!!

  21. jjetplane

    Aug 20, 2015, 13:12 #74424

    Looking to read this one and going b y the picture I will certainly enjoy it. RON don't be too hard on Baddie. Think he is just finding his feet again and they be attached to rocket shoes that have finally sent him into space. Happy spinning mate!

  22. Exeter Gunner

    Aug 20, 2015, 13:02 #74423

    More good, well researched stuff from Robert. Badarse - you complain about repetition on this site, yet essentially you're making the same point again and again and again: 'Most on here are unthinking sheep. I am one of the few who sees wider and further'.

  23. Tony Evans

    Aug 20, 2015, 12:46 #74421

    Thanks so much, Robert, for another fantastic article and wonderful clips of 70s and 80s matches, especially that amazing FA Cup semi final in 1980. That semi and the Juventus semi were epics and we deserved at least one trophy after them - still remember by complete and utter depression after we lost both finals.

  24. Charlie George Orwell

    Aug 20, 2015, 12:29 #74420

    Excellent piece again, Robert. Made me smile seeing Jan Molby's name mentioned. For those who may not have been around in the 80's, Liverpool's double-winning team of 85-86 did not contain a single Englishman. But they did have a player with a scouse accent: the Danishman Jan Molby!

  25. Big Andy

    Aug 20, 2015, 12:21 #74419

    @Jeff Wright: Great point! The best that Shankley ever did for Liverpool was walking away at the right time. His departure allowed Paisley to take the Reds to the next level. Had Shankley stayed I'm convinced that Liverpool would never had won those European Cups in the Seventies and early Eighties. But Wenger is allowed to stay at Arsenal because the club have no real interest other than to make money - and Wenger is good at doing that with his transfer dealings.

  26. Ron

    Aug 20, 2015, 12:11 #74418

    Nice post Robert. Theres been a trend for yrs hasnt there that the Mersey reds get little from visits to the N5 reds even during their fantastic years and in turn the Arsenal get little from Anfield. The last decade though, despite our decline, Anfields been a decent hunting ground on the whole. I was at the stage of actually relishing visits there until the 5-1! ha. Not many fans do expect much from Anfield even today v their teams which are less than a shadow of those Liverpool teams yr talking about in yr post.PS - I recall being very young being taken to Anfield by my Uncle. We lost 5-0 or 5-1 then. Cant be sure but can recall Ian Ure played - oh dear!!I was about 9, 10 at the most. Deafening place those days. Unsegregated on terraces too. The beating 2 yrs ago took me back to that match. The TV still wax lyrical about the Anfield atmosphere but Its not been like it was all those yrs ago though for over 20 years really. It was truly the most intimidating place at one time. More so than Elland Road which atmosphere was as sinister as its home team back in the day. BADARSE - you've become a very caustic presence on this site with yr ludicrous posts. Why not go and preach at your local communist chapter with the rest of the headcases.

  27. jeff wright

    Aug 20, 2015, 11:49 #74417

    Despite Shankly's claim that : "Football is not a matter of life and death... it's much more important than that...." He knew at 60 that it was time to retire and to hand the reigns to another ... A man needs a certain amount of self awareness to make such a decision though and if he lacks this attribute then it all often ends in tears for many previously successful people. Not more so than in sport - which is an unforgiving profession. C' est la vie !

  28. WENGER MUST GO ASAP(MARCUS). HES A BUST

    Aug 20, 2015, 11:45 #74416

    Again whilst everyone especially are so called rivals, are buying wc players we are here having only bought a keeper who has been awful so far!! This club is taking us fans for mugs and yet alot of wenger fanboys and girls put up with it. Its a joke!! Man city finished second last season yet where 9 points behind Chelsea and realized that was not good enough. Yet if we had finished 2nd last season we would have been jumping up and down. What a joke club we have become. A club who wants to win the pl by actually showing their ambition and going out a nd buying the players they need.We on the other hand think we can go from 3rd to 1st in the pl with basically the same amount of players. Its a joke!!! YOU DONT JUMP FROM 3RD TO 1ST IN THE PL WITH THE SAME SQUAD IN THE PL. yet some fans seem to think we can smh. What is walcott going to be scoring 25 pl goals?? Is giroud going to be scoring 25 plus goals a season??? Come on now. We have become a joke. Tired of this club and the way they are taking fans for mugs. The stadium is full of posh middle class folk who wenger and hes ilk have deliberately attracted who are happy with watching tippy tappy football that wins you nothing of major note. If are fanbase which is predominately working class could afford to go the emirates this fool would be getting more stick at the stadium!!!Folks rave about are midfield which i dont think its all that. Its not balanced. manure have the best midfield in the league by far for me. We have to many similar players who all want to be number 10s. One decent dm who if he gets injured or suspend we have to reply on arteta and flamini smh. What has this club become??? Those two fools would both be 7th to 8th choice at either city, chelsea and manure??? We are a joke club being run by idiots who talk about winning the big stuff but dont show it with their actions!!!

  29. Badarse

    Aug 20, 2015, 11:00 #74415

    You have played an absolute blinder, Robert! Thank you so much. As stated before we are gifted with our writers. To those who practise reductionism, and the weaker souls who doff their caps, tug their forelocks, and follow blindly, please read and digest. The prevalent social factors, the zeitgeist of any given period, and multi-faceted minutiae all conspire to breed a mentality which only becomes apparent to many when viewed in a retrospective fashion. There are some though who can just barely discern the nebulous manifestations shimmering as ghostly apparitions a little way off in the future. If you want a bigger picture then buy a wide-angled lens; if you want to make sense of what's going on around, and things yet to be, then try to practise foresight-don't be too ready to hand over your own personal sovereignty of understanding and evaluation. Your life, your views, your decision. Don't abdicate to a louder voice. It is vital in order to understand our football club-Arsenal, as well as the dynamics governing the direction football is taking.

  30. Andy Kelly

    Aug 20, 2015, 11:00 #74414

    Another little known fact is that when Liverpool applied to join the Football League they asked to be elected directly into the First Division.

  31. p denham

    Aug 20, 2015, 10:29 #74413

    Superb article many thanks for a stroll through my early teens and the pain of watching the wrong reds winning