#ThrowbackThursday – Newcastle Away

Part one of a look back at visits to Saturday’s opponents



#ThrowbackThursday – Newcastle Away

SuperMac: Cost over one third of a million… just


Few teams in England called ‘United’ have a literal meaning to their title, however one of the few that do are Newcastle United. In the early 1880s Newcastle had two sides - Newcastle East End who formed in 1881 after a local Cricket side called Stanley Cricket Club decided to form a Football Club to keep them amused during the winter and another local Cricket club called Newcastle West End who did likewise, who played their home games at St James’s Park. West End were originally the premier side in Newcastle under the managerial reign of Tom Watson – who later enjoyed title-winning success with Sunderland and Liverpool – until Watson was lured across town to Newcastle East End, building a side made up of Scottish talent lured south of the border.

West End hit trouble as a result and in the spring of 1892 approached East End with a view to a take-over, though were officially wound up that year with most of their best players and backroom staff joining Newcastle East End, who took over the lease at St James’s Park that year and became Newcastle United. The club joined the Football League the following year, winning their first title in 1904/05. From that year, this is footage of a Newcastle fixture with Liverpool. The Magpies also reached the FA Cup that season, but were prevented from achieving the first double of the twentieth century after losing to the last team to carry out that feat – Aston Villa – at Crystal Palace, 2-0 (the Villa side that day actually contained the Great-Great Grandfather of Jack Grealish from the current day Villa side!).

Two further titles followed for Newcastle in 1906/07 and 1908/09, as well as an FA Cup win in 1910 against Barnsley. The last league title winning Newcastle side came in 1927, the star of which had been Hughie Gallacher who was Alex James’s fellow ‘Wembley Wizard’ from the Scotland side which trounced England 5-1 in 1928 (Gallacher’s strike rate for Newcastle had been 133 goals in just 160 appearances, however he took his own life by jumping in front of a train in 1957). Also, the Newcastle side of the 1920s would have a pivotal role in Arsenal’s history, after defeating the Gunners 7-0 at home in early October 1925.

As explained in one of my previous articles, Arsenal’s star man Charles Buchan had threatened Herbert Chapman with retirement after the St. James’s Park debacle. After discussion between the two, they both agreed that Arsenal would experiment with Buchan’s suggested ‘W-M’ formation which transformed Arsenal’s fortunes and even led to the club’s first title challenge – though finishing second to Huddersfield Town, who had completed their hat-trick of titles that season. Huddersfield’s run of titles however would be brought to a close by Newcastle’s title win the following season.

For Newcastle United in the inter-war period there would be one further FA Cup triumph in 1932, which became known as the ‘over the line’ final against Arsenal in 1932 on account of the Magpies’ controversial equaliser. However by the end of the 1933/34 season Newcastle were relegated to the second tier, despite beating Liverpool 9-2 and Everton 7-3 within a week of playing either side. The Magpies were to remain there until after the Second World War, however in 1936 were drawn at home in the fifth round of the FA Cup to an Arsenal side that would eventually go on to lift the Cup that April. A huge crowd of 65,000 success starved Tynesiders turned out for the tie, which ended in a 3-3 draw. Arsenal however would win the replay 3-0 back at Highbury the following Wednesday.

The Magpies’ stayed in the second tier until rising back up with a new batch of stars such as ‘Wor Jackie’ Milburn (the second Cousin of Jack and Bobby Charlton), Joe Harvey and George Robledo in 1947/48. In the early fifties, the Geordies would go on to win the FA Cup three times in five years. In 1951, two Jackie Milburn goals against the Blackpool side of Mortensen and Matthews sealed the Cup for the Tynesiders. The following year, Newcastle became the first team in the twentieth century to retain the trophy with a 1-0 win over an Arsenal side who for the most part had played with ten men due to an injury to Walley Barnes (as with 1932, Newcastle had thwarted an Arsenal double attempt, as is covered by a previous article I had wrote in 2013). Newcastle’s winning goal was scored by Chilean-born George Robledo, pre-dating his compatriot Alexis Sanchez by 63 years as the first player from that South American nation to score in the FA Cup Final.

A further FA Cup triumph for Newcastle came in 1955 with a 3-1 win over Bert Trautman and Manchester City, (the latter however would triumph the following year by the same score line against Birmingham City with the aforementioned German goalkeeper heroically playing on with a broken neck). One year on from their FA Cup triumph, Newcastle United signed a young twenty year old from Northern Irish club Ards called George Eastham. By 1959 however, Eastham had wanted out of St. James’s Park due to grievances about the uninhabitable club house that was provided for by his family, Newcastle preventing him travelling with the England Under-23 squad and the second job which the club provided him with, due to the maximum wage which was in place.

Eastham however was unable to leave Newcastle due to the ‘retain and transfer’ system, which effectively bound a player to a club, until that club said otherwise. Ironically, his manager at Newcastle had been Charlie Mitten who had been tagged with the nickname of the ‘Bogota Bandit’ after defying Matt Busby at Old Trafford in 1950 in deserting Manchester United to join Independiente Santa Fe in a Columbian League not affiliated to FIFA and hence not recognising the contractual obligations which English footballers were bound to observe. Sadly for Mitten, after just one year in Columbia, the South American nation had re-joined FIFA, meaning that he was forced to return to England and received a fine of six months’ wages and a ban on playing for the same duration.

Mitten declined from mounting a legal challenge against the ‘retain and transfer’ system, George Eastham however decided to go on strike, even seeking employment outside of Football, until Newcastle relented and allowed Eastham to sign for Arsenal in 1960. The PFA however financially backed Eastham to pursue the matter through the courts as a restraint of trade, in which Eastham had successfully challenged the ‘retain and transfer’ system which was consigned to history in 1963. While pursuing the matter through the courts, Eastham returned to St. James’s Park with Arsenal in February 1961, during which Eastham had scored a late equaliser in a 3-3 draw after being barracked by the St. James’s Park crowd throughout with taunts of ‘Judas’ and pelted with apples for having the audacity to take their club to court.

At the end of 1960/61, their first season without Eastham ended in relegation to the second tier, though the Magpies returned as Champions of the old Second Division in 1964/65 under former captain Joe Harvey and had won the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup in 1969 against Ujpest Dozsa of Hungary in 1968/69 winning the first leg 3-0 at home and the second leg 3-2 away. Arsenal would win the Fairs Cup the following season, however on meeting the holders in the League at St. James’s Park in August 1969 would suffer a 1-3 defeat. In the late 1960s and early 1970s Newcastle developed a credible side which included stars such as Malcolm McDonald, Frank Clark, Terry Hibbitt and John Tudor who inflicted a 1-2 defeat on Arsenal in front of the cameras in September 1972.

Earlier on that calendar year however Newcastle would suffer a famous humiliating defeat at non-league Hereford in the fourth round of the FA Cup, as well as a comprehensive 3-0 defeat in the 1974 FA Cup Final against Liverpool. This Newcastle side had to make do with winning lesser trophies such as the Anglo-Italian Cup in 1973 and the Texaco Cup back to back in 1974 and 1975. A turning point for Newcastle came in 1976, when their star man Malcolm McDonald was transferred to Arsenal for a third of a million pounds (legend has it that so protracted were the negotiations with the Tynesiders that Arsenal chairman Denis Hill-Wood insisted on paying Newcastle a cheque for £333,333.34, as he didn’t want them haggling over a third of a penny!).

Within two seasons of losing Supermac, Newcastle were relegated to the second tier again and remained there for six years. In between, the shining hope for a Geordie Nation also incurring the wrath of Thatcherism was England Captain Kevin Keegan signing for Newcastle in 1982. Kev was still a huge star at the time, as seen here from his co-hosting of Top of the Pops with the now infamous DLT and interviewing of Sir Cliff Richard @03.21 (if you didn’t find the TOTP footage hideous enough, try this papier mache model of Kev on Blue Peter!)

Though he had to endure an embrace from a male streaker, Keegan marked his Newcastle debut against QPR with a goal. Kev remained on Tyneside for just two seasons, retiring at the end of the 1983/84 season and securing promotion in his final game at St. James’s Park with a goal against Brighton and treated to an extravagant farewell against his old side Liverpool. Keegan never featured against Arsenal for the Tynesiders by virtue of Newcastle being outside of the top flight during his time there. On Kev’s retirement, Newcastle’s looked for a new striker in some unusual places, however still had the talents of Chris Waddle, Peter Beardsley and in 1985 won the FA Youth Cup with a side which included a seventeen year old Paul Gascoigne.

Their first fixture against Arsenal at St. James’s Park on returning to the top flight occurred between Christmas and New Year of 1984 with a comprehensive 3-1 victory for North London’s finest with two goals from Charlie Nicholas and one from Brian Talbot. Newcastle’s only defeat of Arsenal over a twenty year period came the following season in March 1986 with a Glenn Roeder goal, which ended a run of seven league games without defeat and came at the start of a calendar month which ended with the resignation of Don Howe. The following season, the fixture between the two sides at St. James’s in October that same calendar year saw a 2-1 victory for Arsenal with goals from Viv Anderson and Steve Williams, which had been the third game of a seventeen match unbeaten run which embedded the reign of George Graham, and stretched until February the following year.

The following season, Arsenal’s visit to St. James’s Park occurred on Halloween of 1987. Arsenal were actually outplayed but a John Lukic penalty save and a late Alan Smith winner averted a horror show for North London’s finest. This footage also shows the very first ever Brazilian to play in the English top flight – Mirandinha – signing autographs for the Arsenal fans at the away end. In this article, Mirandinha explains that on arrival on Tyneside Gazza had made him welcome by teaching him all of the English swear words. After English coaching from Paul Gascoigne one wonders whether the result must have sounded something akin to this famous Harry Enfield and Paul Whitehouse sketch.

On the subject of Harry Enfield, around 1988 on the popular alternative comedy show ‘Friday Night Live’, the comedian had depicted the chasm of the North-South divide with the crass Spurs-supporting Loadsamoney representing southern aspiration and his Geordie alter-ego B*gger All Money representing Northern industrial decline. Over the four years in which Newcastle returned to the top flight they had lost Chris Waddle to Spurs, Peter Beardsley to Liverpool, with Paul Gascoigne the last remaining home-grown talent on Tyneside. This Football Focus feature showed how Gazza had started to attract the attention of the top sides and Gazza succumbed to temptation, moving to Spurs in the summer of 1988. However, as seen from this feature on Saint & Greavsie on his return to Tyneside, according to Geordie long-distance runner and founder of the Great North Run - Brendan Foster (@01.00), Gazza's transfer was harder for the Geordie Nation to take because Tottenham Hotspur’s standing in the Football world lacked credibility in the eyes of most of most of the Geordie fans).

Gazza's departure however, as with Supermac and George Eastham would see another decline in fortunate for the Tynesiders until, as will be seen tomorrow, Newcastle would experience an early to mid-1990s renaissance after the return of their prodigal son in 1992.

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  1. Moscow Gooner

    Aug 31, 2015, 11:26 #75016

    You learn something new every time you read the Gooner... Never knew that George Eastham started his career at Ards: why would a future England international have started out playing in Northern Ireland? Interesting.

  2. Exeter Gunner

    Aug 28, 2015, 22:14 #74870

    You and the other AKBs have shown a very great need to discuss GN, Badarse. It's his insight you hide away from.

  3. jjetplane

    Aug 28, 2015, 19:23 #74863

    Or was it Gateshead ....

  4. jjetplane

    Aug 28, 2015, 19:03 #74861

    I really like Jamie and Gary now and their seductive demolition of Henry was a joy to behold. It perfectly mirrored this site and as the AKBs particularly your dear self Baddie like to occupy the middle ground it is fun to see the variegated WOB attacks hitting their mark again and again. Of course Henry will rise from the mediated rubble but he will be scarred by his contact with a reality beyond the comfort of Wengerworld. Same goes for the AKBs who even turn up wearing new fatigues but fooling no one but themselves. Scarey thought that I spent almost half a decade living in the gatesgead area. Tsunami/Tsunami ....

  5. Badarse

    Aug 28, 2015, 16:50 #74860

    Exeter the use of an acronym to describe individuals is quite offensive to me-it smacks of Big Brother. However, having paraded my thoughts and preferences on numerous occasions I gave into the inevitable usage. It was hurled randomly, it gets chucked straight back-and pick this to pieces, my aim is quite hot, it strikes it's target. Now, whatever you want to be called is insignificant as is my preference. Make no mistake we live in an aggressive age and people put up barriers and use divisive language, even when talking of the same club. I can disagree, yet laugh and joke with some on this site, however a number have personal issues and start frothing at the mouth. It isn't worth it, just accept that you are wrong-only kidding, but see what I mean. You have a need to discuss GN and his insight, I don't. If none engage it isn't necessarily everyone's failure, just let it go. Beat that glitch!

  6. mbg

    Aug 28, 2015, 14:49 #74857

    Exeter, nice one, lets hope Arsenal have the Geordies in their pockets like that tomorrow, 5-0 sounds nice.

  7. Exeter Gunner

    Aug 28, 2015, 13:09 #74847

    One last time, Badarse - my point is that the AKBs (to utilise that paradigm) have chosen to focus on who Neville is, where he was when he said what he said, who he was standing next to. They (including yourself) have offered no counter-points to his actual points - to give just one example, the lack of power on the pitch. THAT is my point. As it seems to be beyond your grasp we can stop the discussion here.

  8. Exeter Gunner

    Aug 28, 2015, 12:57 #74845

    By the way, Badarse, as someone who utilises the AKB/WOB paradigm himself - and had just done so - are you able to see that the line "'your side' etc is so divisive" is just a tad hypocritical?

  9. Badarse

    Aug 28, 2015, 12:48 #74843

    Exeter, trawl back and feel a little bit foolish. I started the ball rolling by laying at GN's door a claim of himhaving an agenda. I didn't complain about the toothpaste he uses, or the colour of his eyes. Full stop! I still believe he had an agenda and also that he marginally stepped over the line in his approach to a fellow pundit, Henry. I regard that as bad form. I also, in another post recognised his credentials as an informative individual. Now if you want to go into an empty room and shout then please do so, but why do you keep dancing around imaginary handbags on the floor? Knees up Mother Brown!

  10. Exeter Gunner

    Aug 28, 2015, 12:31 #74839

    My focus is very clear, Badarse, but you're still trying to say the 'issue' is that Neville said it - not the content of what he actually said. There are only so many times I express this clearly and explicitly. If you cannot or will not see my point, there's nothing I can do about that. Doesn't mean I'll let it pass. Further, the post in question contains the line 'getting the WOBs to try to sew Arsenal badges onto a batch of Moan U shirts'. Through this bit of imagery you are trying to convey the idea that WOBs are Man U fans 'underneath'. The post then goes on to talk about an author. I'd like to think that Thackery could do an awful lot better than the AKBs have managed this past week.

  11. Badarse

    Aug 28, 2015, 12:17 #74838

    Pardon Exeter? What are you actually saying? Try to focus. The criticism of GN was valid, he took advantage of his position, end of. Any disagreement between posters on that issue is due to differing standards and is self-evident by responses, therefore non-negotiable. Incidentally I am the only bod accused of being a Moan U fan by a poster acting foolishly. Think post 79063 was about an author, please reread. Think once more the glitch has got in the way again my friend, you seem to be in a tangle, 'your side' etc is so divisive. There is no discussion about GN. He acted in a fashion that some accept, and others don't. Funny thing is I would almost certainly vouchsafe that those who had an issue with him are constant and consistent. Those in defence of him usually switch views and principles when it suits. Deletions, dilutions, 24601.

  12. Exeter Gunner

    Aug 28, 2015, 12:04 #74835

    No Badarse, I am not making a wider case for change here. I am simply reiterating - in the face of continued attempts to reduce the debate to 'You support Man U cos you agree with Neville' (you've just done it again in your post 79063)- that there has been no attempt from your 'side' to actually engage with the points made. Although I do recall you saying 'I agree much of what Neville said makes a lot of sense'. You can call it a 'glitch', I think it's a point worth making - you don't disagree with Neville or the rest of us concerning that constructive criticism. You just think it shouldn't be said. You side is stuck on the 'glitch' of your ongoing attempts to make it about personality rather than the points themselves.

  13. mbg

    Aug 28, 2015, 12:02 #74834

    And universes too.

  14. Mark from Aylesbury

    Aug 28, 2015, 11:41 #74832

    The Neville comments are actually very useful as they add a counterbalance to the Gazidis outlook of shooting into the media that Wenger is God pre season before a ball was kicked. I noted no other club issued there can be no alternative statement. I would of course argue that other clubs get football like Gazidis doesn't and would never expose themselves. Further if Wenger is right and Neville is wrong then obviously we will go on a storming run and challenge for the premiership. If Neville is right then another slow start beckons and we will stumble for fourth. I have no issue and would welcome Wenger doing the business. Suffice to say I don't think he will. Let's just hope a major signing or two can galvanise things. Ps: who out f the Akb's would say if we finish 4th with no trophies keep him?

  15. Badarse

    Aug 28, 2015, 10:24 #74828

    Exeter you want change now, I want evolutionary change. That is a simple approach to a football club's situation. It is neither a view or an argument, just an approach. I understand your glitch-I have enough of my own-but it is not my bag. Arsene is here, picking a side he wants to pick, and playing a team in a certain fashion. We all possess the footballing credentials to some degree, which gives us a possible trajectory for the club. It is a personal approach, though may be shared-or not. Get over it and enjoy the moment. Off to Brighton for the Mods WE tomorrow. Got me Afghan, shades, fur-covered ear trumpet, spotlights galore on me Zimmer frame, psychedelic incontinence pads, ready for the buzz. 'People try to put us down.' Brighton Rock!

  16. Exeter Gunner

    Aug 28, 2015, 10:02 #74826

    Even an off the peg view is better than meta-moaning and reductionism in lieu of a view.

  17. Badarse

    Aug 28, 2015, 9:52 #74825

    Exeter it is wrong to argue. Discuss or even javelin are both acceptable. Did you see Bolt win the 200m? I think he was offside, would need to consult GN or Savage to be certain though-I need a 'Hepworth's off the peg' view. Chill fella, we are in this boat together, and as a special consideration I shall place you at the Heads.

  18. Exeter Gunner

    Aug 28, 2015, 9:37 #74823

    Whilst the AKBs are to be called the "No Argument Brothers"

  19. Badarse

    Aug 28, 2015, 9:16 #74821

    julesd that's a nice connection for you. I love those tiny, generally unknown, tenuous threads connecting us to parallel events. At the next 'Virtual Sewing Circle' am considering getting the WOBs to try to sew Arsenal badges onto a batch of Moan U shirts I picked up cheap with my Tesco Reward Card. It will be tough for them-am calling the group the 'No Hope Brothers'. I loved Thackeray's writing but more, really admired the man behind the pen. When I read Jane Eyre I was intrigued by the glowing dedication Charlotte Bronte made to a man-it was Thackeray. I was made up, we both loved him. It sent me in another direction discovering their common respect and affection, (bit like mine for you, ha ha), for each other. I think Thackeray would ruffle a few feathers on here, especially the chicken feathers-he'd have them by the 'Barney Curlies'.

  20. julesd

    Aug 28, 2015, 8:44 #74818

    @Badarse, Interesting article in the Arsenal v Liverpool programme about the 1950 FA Cup winning strip. It transpires that Hope Brothers manufactured all the Arsenal kits after the Second World War. My late SAmother worked there when I was a school kid in the late 50's, early 60's. I never realised she had probably been involved in making the Arsenal kit.

  21. Westlower

    Aug 28, 2015, 8:19 #74817

    Yet another ex-Man U STAR (they only have STARS at OT) Owen Hargreaves reckons Arsenal have no chance of topping their CL group. These Mancs really are paranoid about AFC. They speak the same language as our own beloved quislings. Martin will sort him out tomorrow on BT. The bookies reckon we're 11/4 to win our CL group & 25/1 to win the competition.

  22. mbg

    Aug 28, 2015, 0:03 #74816

    John Gage, like an old broken worthless toy, even more proof (if any was needed)that he's past it and not up to the job.

  23. Man United Killer

    Aug 27, 2015, 21:52 #74815

    Good Old Westie..Always sticking out for Arsene FC and not Arsenal FC. Time to wake up!

  24. goonercolesyboy

    Aug 27, 2015, 21:11 #74814

    Let's not forget that Lehmann was sent off early doors, hence Almunia playing most of the final. Make sure Bard's eyes are closed Bridgette when you stand over the man hole otherwise he might be in need of some mouth to mouth from his nodding mates.

  25. mbg

    Aug 27, 2015, 20:45 #74813

    jj, don't even go there on wally, you can just see the waffles off him now and the nods and smiles of OGL watching it on the TV in his office, and as soon as wally says thank you when the interview finishes he's forgotten what he said.

  26. clockender

    Aug 27, 2015, 20:45 #74812

    As everybody's in humourous mode,I saw there was a bit of a kerfuffle going on at WOB Towers today about whether the Gary Neville statue should now have pride of place in the 'Dark room'instead of the bust of Jose Mourinho.

  27. jjetplane

    Aug 27, 2015, 20:25 #74811

    Think the problem is Arsene though having hung around on the fringes of football for apparently 30 years he really isn't a fan of it. It just makes him uncomfortable though of course it pays well. Will he make it to Sir Arsene Wenger status is the big question and then he will be the equal of the great and good Alex. I am sure Gary would drum up support for it and Henry in the Middle would mumble assent. Bayern again. can't wait to hear Theo on that .... ps There be much bitterness in that appropiation.

  28. mbg

    Aug 27, 2015, 20:13 #74810

    Bardot, sorry to hear about your dad, i bet the men in white coats were Fergie, Gary Neville, Roy Keane, and Ryan Giggs, the Anaesthetist was a united season ticket holder, and the Ambulance driver was Rupert Murdoch.

  29. John Gage

    Aug 27, 2015, 19:58 #74809

    I honestly don't think its simple arrogance on Wenger's part. I agree with Martin Keown that its his frequent OVERESTIMATION of the ability of certain players that's he's chosen and developed that is his biggest weakness. It is also his excessive loyalty to certain players. He genuinely cannot bear to part with them. Its this quality which made him stick to Abou Diaby beyond all reason. It explains his attachment to players like Manuel Almunia who were clearly not of the grade required to win a Premership title. It is for this reason that he is willing to change formations to accomodate players like Ramsay and Wilshere even if it meant unbalancing the squad. It is his excessive love and lack of ruthlessness which is his greatest weakness, not arrogance.

  30. Badarse

    Aug 27, 2015, 19:45 #74808

    Hello, I'm Badcurvybot, Badarse's daughter. I've used Dad's monicker because I remember the trouble my brother Brian got him into. I think I know you Bardot, aren't you the girl I argued with in school? You wore CFC socks and tried to kid me they said 'chelse afc'. Don't fret Dad says your Dad will come home a new man soon-that should please your Mum anyway. Jamerson managed to get him discharged into AKB care-you know Jamerson can handle acronyms like WOB and AMG, so the NHS was putty in his finely manicured fingers. Dad is a bit strung out-outside the 5th floor window ledge-you know the one my Dad had to talk DWT down from. His treatment involves giving him lots of Arsene football tips, and holding his head under the cold water taps-so it's all tippy tappy. Don't worry, AKB Central Command has never lost a man yet-though mag was never returned to you all in any coherent state, so hold the press on that one.

  31. John F

    Aug 27, 2015, 19:15 #74807

    Good to see the 1984 clip I was at that game with my Geordie brother in law in the side paddock .Not many gooners there that day a few hundred I seem to remember.Charlie nicholas used to divide opinion amongst us like Ozil does now he had the skill but sometimes lacked the endeavour.He was saved from harsh criticism due to the fact that he used to score against spurs.I remember the song for him (who puts the ball in Tottenham's net Charlie Nicholas,Charlie Nicholas).

  32. Bardot

    Aug 27, 2015, 18:49 #74806

    Hi everyone, Im Bard's daughter Bridgette. Sadly Dad got taken away this morning by the men in white coats after a kerfuffle in the night. I heard shouting in my parents bedroom about 3am and went to see what the fuss was about. i found Dad dressed head to foot in the Arsenal 2010 away kit wrestling with Mum on the floor. He was screaming, 'you're not my wife, you're an impostor, your'e Norman Whiteside in disguise'. I tried to reason with him but he wouldnt stop so I grabbed a statuette of Jack Wilshere from the mantlepiece with the intention of hitting him on the head but it broke in my hands. Eventually I found one of someone called Peter Storey and it did the trick in one hit. They say they will keep in until after the Newcastle game although I suspect Dad will get worse as he told me that owner Mike Ashley plays bingo with Sir Alex and that the game is fixed. Bye for now.

  33. Badarse

    Aug 27, 2015, 18:47 #74805

    Hi 24601, I'll post to you without having a dig. I was showing friends last weekend of the 'M' Cup we went to on the Sunday. In amongst was a number of Martin Keown reaching up and signing for a dozen outstretched beseeching hands. A good lad-and have always noticed that Lineker, Shearer et al temper their digs at Arsenal when he is on the panel. Note some sensible advice from the one who should be obeyed, ha ha-he just can't help himself. A good piece Robert, thank you.

  34. jjetplane

    Aug 27, 2015, 18:43 #74804

    No doubt Arsene will still be bleating about the Ramsay 'goal' come May and the last push for a CL place .... Let this tedium stop!

  35. mbg

    Aug 27, 2015, 18:27 #74803

    jw, yes this looks like a win win situation for old arrogant and his fans, but it's not, as Ron says he'll no doubt disrespect it, then it'll be interesting to hear all the accusations of disrespect levelled from the AKB's the way they were at Gary Neville but I suppose it's different when their messiah disrespects someone/something.

  36. Exeter Gunner

    Aug 27, 2015, 18:20 #74801

    Westlower - 3 days on and you're STILL trying to make it about Neville the character rather than the points he made because you STILL can't raise a single counter to the points he made.

  37. jeff wright

    Aug 27, 2015, 17:47 #74800

    They showed those embarrassing goals during the draw that Almunia let in against Barcelona in the final . A manager with any sense would have known that 'the waiter' was not up to the job and ditched him pronto. But not Arrogant he made him captain and kept him on for 5 years. Arsene had to show that he knew best. As is usually the case with him though he did not. Our group looks tougher than the past ones but you can see all the top sides getting through to the KO rounds - another mission impossible for Arsene awaits in his never ending quest for the holy grail.

  38. jjetplane

    Aug 27, 2015, 17:20 #74799

    Ahh yes WEStIE - hard man Martin with his 'when Jack is fit' and 'Danny will come on' and 'once Theo is settled after the contract delays' and 'does my nose look really brown in this light?' Newsflash Arsenal are in with BM and man Utd look like they are getting an easy ride. Deep breaths WESTIE lol! RON is right mate - you make a lot of air for someone who does not attend football matches ....

  39. Ron

    Aug 27, 2015, 16:24 #74797

    Open yr eyes Westie for heavens sake. Outbursts like that do you no favours. Its not as if you're actually a match going supporter so all of this 'im a loyal die hard' stuff is a bit hollow isnt it. Do you really think people who call for change, do it because they dont care about AFC? All Neville s done is to say what thousands already think but have no means to let the Club know, other than by not going to games.

  40. jeff wright

    Aug 27, 2015, 16:09 #74796

    He will put out a reserve side Ron against the spuds ,if he wins then it will make him look clever and if not then he has bigger fish to fry and anyway the League Cup is a competition that HE old Arrogant wouldn't bother celebrating winning anyway. He actually said that after a 3-1 defeat away to City so you literally couldn't make it up! He can't claim that about the FA one any more though because he has needed that to help cover up for his failures in trying to fry bigger fish.

  41. Westlower

    Aug 27, 2015, 16:04 #74795

    @Done with Arsenal, Heartfelt thanks for your loyal and totally committed support for the past 5 years. Citeh are lucky to be getting your support. Will you switch to Chelsea if Citeh lose a game? Man U are on the up or are they too big a gamble for your deep affection? Things we've learned this week: Gary Neville is God? Is this the same GN who was despised by Gooners when he butchered Jose Antonio Reyes at the Theatre of Thuggery. Our quislings have found a new Champion for their disruptive cause. BT only have scousers so it won't as entertaining this weekend, particularly if Martin is alongside them.

  42. mbg

    Aug 27, 2015, 15:41 #74794

    I suppose it was only a matter of time (again) until the name calling and insults started.

  43. Ron

    Aug 27, 2015, 15:15 #74792

    He wont be overly keen with the prospect of a Cup tie derby either Jeff, though im guessing he ll disrespect that as he s done before in Cup ties v Tottenham.

  44. jeff wright

    Aug 27, 2015, 14:42 #74791

    I am available 24 hours a day to make new signings ...says Arsene Wenger... Great but are you going to sign anyone ? Wenger replies: Er, not at the moment , but I am available to do so but that doesn't mean that I will. The result away to Newcastle could impact on this though,once again Wenger is in a position where he is reacting to events rather than dictating them. I'm still amazed,although I should not be,that some think that GN 's remarks about Wenger's physically weak teams are wrong.Let's facce it he has never won any league titles ,or even challenged for any , since he went all tippy-tappy . During this time Wenger has suffered the worst defeats in AFC history of any manager as well. It seems obvious to me that this can't be as Arrogant Arsene claims down to accidents, it's a case of cause and effects.

  45. jeff wright

    Aug 27, 2015, 14:05 #74790

    bb, I was at the FAC tie with Millwall at Highbury on a Saturday afternoon when that poll tax riot in Trafalgar sq kicked-off .When we were leaving we could see all the plod on horses galloping off to join in the fun ! I was living at The Angel at that time and used to walk to home games and back.

  46. BB

    Aug 27, 2015, 13:59 #74789

    Gazza's transfer was harder for the Geordie Nation to take because Tottenham Hotspur’s standing in the Football world lacked credibility in the eyes of most of most of the Geordie fans). I don't think this view is exclusive to Geordie's !! Cheers Robert enjoyed the read

  47. Ron

    Aug 27, 2015, 13:59 #74788

    We generally play pretty poorly up at St James and win or scratch a jammy draw.. I'm actually going to this one. Love the North East/Northumbria. Perhaps the most beautiful place in the UK, though there are a few candidates. A draw will be a decent result. 1-1. I dont think we ll win this time. New are due some points of the Arse. Good stadium, though im in seats with Newc fans this time. Done it before in these seats. Theyre ok up there but its more due to being with my Bro in Law and Sister i suspect, both Toon fans.

  48. mbg

    Aug 27, 2015, 13:47 #74787

    Hiccup, it being on BT sports Henry will get a reprieve from this one, i'm sure he's relieved about that. Maybe after Monday he's already checked his contract to see if he can get out of Arsenal games.

  49. mbg

    Aug 27, 2015, 13:36 #74785

    Good read Robert, funnily enough I was in Ards last night. It's sad when you read of all these teams humble beginnings and then years down the line fortune turns and their taken over by wealthy billionaires all trying to make their clubs bigger and better and the best, and others who just stand still and/or digress and with fans quite happy about it.

  50. bb

    Aug 27, 2015, 13:09 #74784

    9 straight defeats Jeff, as a toon fan Im forever hopeful ! having lived in Islington for two years I used to drop into arsenal games when we weren't playing and remember odd details of matches like being at Kevin Campbells debut when he came on as a young sub against Notts Forrest, happy days supping in upper street, joining in at the poll tax demos at the town hall,god im getting old ! so always look forward to the arsenal coming to town

  51. Peter Wain

    Aug 27, 2015, 13:08 #74783

    Nice to see how active we are in the transfer market. One wonders why Wenger is paid all this money because he does very little for it. Do not hold out much hope against Newcastle with both centre backs out.

  52. jeff wright

    Aug 27, 2015, 12:31 #74781

    bb, can you remind us what WHU 's stats were >?!

  53. Wear Your Colours

    Aug 27, 2015, 11:53 #74780

    Re: 79017: Thanks for the info Westlower. John Matthews, tall stylish midfielder who just lacked that bit of pace. COYG!

  54. bb

    Aug 27, 2015, 11:33 #74779

    NCLE 1 win in 19 games against arsenal 10 games since a home win against arsenal. No pressure for wenger on this one !

  55. Westlower

    Aug 27, 2015, 11:30 #74778

    @Wear Your Colours, In 1976/77 we won 2-0 at St James, Matthews & MacDonald were the scorers. Team that day was: Rimmer, Rice, Nelson, Matthews, O'Leary, Young, Brady, Hudson, MacDonald, Stapleton, Armstrong. Howard came on for O'Leary.We finished 8th in the league that season with 43 points from 42 games. Liverpool were Champions with 57 points.

  56. Hiccup

    Aug 27, 2015, 11:21 #74777

    The latest team news for Saturday is worrying. Glen Hoddle has been confirmed to start in the studio, and anything said out of line could spark another riot amongst the AKB community. Robbie Savage also keeps his place on the pre match sofa. An ex Manc with an anti arsenal agenda will be a time bomb waiting to go off. Once the game starts, we then have to deal with Michael Owen in the commentating gantry. An ex Scouse and ex Manc all in one is a recipe for disaster for the fragile AKB. How the hell the AKB's are going to get through to next week with this deliberate arsenal poking line up by BT is anyone's guess. Let's all say a prayer for the AKB's in these worrying times.

  57. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Aug 27, 2015, 11:12 #74774

    ahh Newcastle; a supposed "sleeping giant". without a trophy since 1968. A football team whose fans are stuck in a permanent 1950's time warp. Oh, those wacky blokes who show every one their beer guts in the middle of freezing January. Actually most of that is media bulls**t and they actually have had a pretty rough time of it lately - don't feel too sorry for them though. We need three points, usually do OK against them up there though

  58. Wear Your Colours

    Aug 27, 2015, 11:02 #74772

    What a great clip from the 1984 game. The keeper was incredibly slow to react to Charlies free-kick. I don't recall the score at St James's in SuperMac's debut season for the Gunners but do remember the game at Highbury where we won 5-3 and SuperMac scored a hat-trick. It would be nice if one our forwards got a hat-trick this week-end. COYG!