#FlashbackFriday – Chelsea Away

Part two of a lookback at visits to this tomorrow’s opponents



#FlashbackFriday – Chelsea Away

That Kanu goal in 1999


After suffering relegation in 1975, Chelsea were to spend two seasons in the second tier of English football. While down in the second tier, Chelsea were on the receiving end of a 0-3 drubbing at London rivals Millwall away at The Den in 1977 however finished runners up in 1976/77 and secured their passage back to the top flight with a 4-0 victory over Hull at Stamford Bridge marred by frequent pitch invasions, with the players forced to exit the pitch mid-way through and manager Eddie McCready forced to appeal to the crowd for order through a microphone @19.47. On Chelsea’s return to the top flight, in March 1978 Arsenal’s visit to Stamford Bridge resulted in a 0-0 draw. Chelsea however finished the following season rock bottom of the table and were already relegated when Arsenal visited Stamford Bridge on May 14th 1979, two days after winning the FA Cup. The game finished 1-1 with Malcolm McDonald scoring in his last ever game, after being forced to quit the game as a result of a knee injury, after spending the summer on loan in Sweden in an attempt to regain fitness.

It would be another five years before Chelsea would return to the top flight again, along the way suffering a humiliating 0-6 defeat away at Rotherham in 1981/82. It was also around this time that Ken Bates would buy Chelsea for £1 plus debts, which ended the club’s long association with their founding Mears family. Chelsea returned to the top flight as champions of the second tier in 1983/84 with exciting squad members such as Pat Nevin, David Speedie and top scorer Kerry Dixon, here beating other present day oligarch club Manchester City at Maine Road on Match of the Day. Arsenal’s first visit to Stamford Bridge after Chelsea’s return came in January 1985 on a quagmire of a pitch, which ended in a 1-1 draw with Paul Mariner scoring for Arsenal (you’ll also note during these years at Stamford Bridge there would be several parked cars along the track between the pitch and crowd. Was Ken Bates running a second hand car lot to pay off Chelsea’s debts?).

Just two months later, many were shocked at the scenes of violence which emanated from Chelsea’s home leg semi-final defeat to Sunderland, although obviously much worse was to follow for English football by the season’s close. In 1985 Chelsea appointed John Hollins as manager, who came back to Stamford Bridge after a four year period at Arsenal. Hollins lasted in the role until 1988, as Chelsea were relegated back to the second tier as the last side to be demoted via a two-legged play-off (the format was changed the following year, meaning that only promotion chasing sides competed to remove the relegation aspect. Play-off finals also became a one-legged tie at Wembley after 1990, instead of played home and away over two-legs). Playing Middlesbrough in the play-off final, Chelsea lost 0-2 at Ayresome Park and though winning 1-0 at Stamford Bridge it was not enough to stop their slide to the second tier, much to the anger of their fans who invaded the pitch and rioted at full time.

Chelsea’s time in the Second tier lasted just one season. Bertie Mee’s former assistant at Highbury, Bobby Campbell was appointed in 1988 and secured the Second Division title by accruing 99 points. Back in the top flight however, Chelsea remained an unspectacular outfit though did inflict Arsenal's only defeat of the 1990/91 season, losing 1-2 at Stamford Bridge in January. Chelsea however were to play a small part in the destination of the title, striking a blow against Liverpool with a 4-2 win at Stamford Bridge, with Arsenal securing the title the following Monday. An Arsenal victory at Stamford Bridge however remained elusive until 1993/94 when Arsenal pulled off a 2-0 win securing their first victory at the Bridge in twenty years.

It wasn't until the start of the Wenger era however when the situation reversed, with Chelsea experiencing difficulty with picking up all three points against Arsenal at Stamford Bridge. Wenger's first visit to the Bridge resulted in a comprehensive 3-0 win for Arsenal in April 1997, with goals from Ian Wright, David Platt and Dennis Bergkamp. The following September, Arsenal took full points with a 3-2 win secured with a belter from Nigel Winterburn in the closing minutes. It was however at Stamford Bridge that season where an Arsenal treble was foiled, where Chelsea manager Ruud Gullitt had been sacked after their first leg defeat at Highbury. New manager Gianluca Vialli, aided by former Arsenal star Graham Rix, pulled the tie back to win 4-3 on aggregate.

The difficulties Chelsea were experiencing in beating Wenger were exemplified by their meeting with Arsenal at Stamford Bridge in 1999/2000, as Chelsea with a 2-0 lead were undone by a second half Kanu hat-trick, which ended in a famous 3-2 win for the Arsenal The following season, the Blues were undone by a late Silviniho better, resulting in a 2-2 draw. In 2001/02, the fixture at Stamford Bridge had been a 1-1 draw with a Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink penalty cancelling out an earlier Thierry Henry strike, where twelve months on a debut goal from Kolo Toure spared Arsenal from defeat, cancelled out Gianfranco Zola's earlier strike, leading to the exact same scoreline.

It was to be the FA Cup however were Chelsea's failure to beat Arsenal would be more pronounced, as after Chelsea won the FA Cup in 2000, Arsenal would stand in the way of FA Cup glory for the Blues for four consecutive seasons - including victory at the Millenium Stadium in the 2002 final. The following season, Chelsea would hold Arsenal to a draw in the Quarter Final, however an early own goal from John Terry set the tone for the evening as Arsenal outclassed their West London rivals 3-1, with goals from Lauren and Sylvain Wiltord. That fixture however would be the last between the two sides before the takeover of Roman Abramovich in the summer of 2003.

Almost instantly there were fears that Chelsea would purchase dominance, but for the first season it was Arsenal who still looked the dominant force in the land, going unbeaten for an incredible forty nine games between May 2003 and November 2004, winning the League title without a defeat throughout the 2003/04 season. On route to the title Arsenal saw off Chelsea at Stamford Bridge in February with a 2-1 win with goals from Patrick Vieira and Edu. It turned out however to be the last time Chelsea would lose a game at home until 2008, an incredible eighty six games later, meaning that Arsenal (along with every other team in the land) would go through a barren period at Stamford Bridge.

Fresh from winning the Champions League with FC Porto, Jose Mourinho took over at Stamford Bridge from Claudio Ranieri in the summer of 2004. His first meeting against Arsenal at Stamford Bridge ended in a 0-0 draw, with Chelsea just weeks away from winning their first league title for fifty years. Jose however would finally break Chelsea’s Arsenal hoodoo in 2005/06, inflicting a 0-1 defeat in August with a goal from Didier Drogba, who would go on to be the scourge of Arsenal fans in the years ahead. The 2006/07 fixture, the last at Stamford Bridge during Jose’s first reign at Chelsea, had the added twist of Ashley Cole’s desertion of Arsenal for West London. Arsenal took the lead through a Flamini strike, however was cancelled out through a Michael Essien belter from over thirty yards out.

Despite winning two league titles in three years, clearly not everyone was impressed with Jose Mourinho and a fall out with Roman Abramovich led to his departure in 2007. Early on in the 2007/08 season, Arsenal put together an impressive run of form which led many to wonder whether a title run could be formulated. Arsene Wenger’s side however fell away after January. Arsenal played a Chelsea side now managed by Avram Grant at Stamford Bridge on a cold Easter Sunday which fell before the clocks went forward (which surely was the only thing more anti-climactic than Arsenal’s poor run-in that spring!). Arsenal did take the lead at Stamford Bridge through a Bacary Sagna header, however the curse of Didier Drogba would strike again. The Drog bagging two goals in a 1-2 defeat for the Arsenal – surprisingly the second of just three defeats that season (Arsenal’s third lowest ever for a single campaign).

Arsenal were unable to build on the early promise of 2007/08 the following season, however did score a 2-1 win at Stamford Bridge during 2008/09. Chelsea took the lead through a Johan Djourou own goal, though Arsenal took all three points with two goals from Robin Van Persie. Later that season however Chelsea would inflict a 1-2 defeat on an Arsenal side playing their first game at the new Wembley Stadium with Didier Drogba again popping up with the winner.

In the calendar year of 2010, Chelsea would inflict two 0-2 defeats on Arsenal in Stamford Bridge – in February of that year with Didier Drogba scoring two, as well as in October with Drogba opening the scoring again and a thunderbolt free kick Brazilian central defender Alex. In 2011/12 however, after Chelsea astonishingly sacked Carlo Ancelotti twelve months on from them securing their only League and FA Cup double, Arsenal were given a glimmer of hope after Andre Villas Boas struggled to make an impact at Stamford Bridge.

In late October, a Robin Van Persie hat-trick as well as goals from Theo Walcott and Andre Santos gave Arsenal an astonishing 5-3 victory at Stamford Bridge. After watching this 12.45PM kick off at the Twelve Pins in Finsbury Park, I can recall checking for the reaction on social media and noticing people on my timeline paying tribute to Jimmy Savile as his passing had only just been announced. What with that and banging five goals past Chelsea, it’s fair to say that the forces of darkness took a right hammering that day (if Carlsberg did Saturdays!). As good as it was however, as well as 2012/13 being a rare example of a recent season where Arsenal have finished above Chelsea, the Blues did finish the season as the first London side to be crowned as Champions of Europe (and from the Quarter Finals onwards that season they pretty much were as dogged as a turd that simply refused to flush!).

That win in late October 2011 was also Arsenal’s last win at Stamford Bridge. In 2012/13 Arsenal suffered a 1-2 defeat and with the return of Jose Mourinho in 2013/14 a humiliating 0-6 loss. Despite that heavy defeat, Arsenal fans would be in full voice singing ’49 undefeated’ on the tube home, (behaviour which greatly contrasted with the classless way Chelsea fans have conducted themselves on subway trains in recent years!).

Last season, Chelsea’s signing of former Arsenal old boy Cesc Fabregas and title win was also compounded by a 0-2 defeat away for Arsenal at Stamford Bridge last October. Luckily Wenger managed to break his duck against Jose Mourinho’s Chelsea last month with a 1-0 win at Wembley secured with an Alex Oxlaide-Chamberlain goal. That said however, if Arsene Wenger wishes to re-establish Arsenal as a trophy winning force, he needs a significant improvement on a record of just one win against Jose Mourinho out of fourteen meetings. Wenger must show enough ruthlessness to capitalise on Jose Mourinho and Chelsea’s poor start to this campaign for Arsenal to progress to anywhere near the level that this side of great potential (though so far are relative under-achievers) are capable of reaching.

Any pre-2003 Chelsea manager may have scoffed at the suggestion of Arsene Wenger being a ‘specialist in failure’, however as can be seen from Arsenal’s sixties barren spell against Chelsea just prior to the double period and what has become of Arsene Wenger’s record against Chelsea Post-2004, in this particular fixture history and the form book are very often turned on its head within a matter of a few games. Who knows, we could be looking back at a second Arsenal win over Jose Mourinho’s Chelsea in under two months as being a very important psychological boost in the development of this particular Arsenal side if Wenger plays his cards right.

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  1. jjetplane

    Sep 20, 2015, 10:40 #76013

    Big stats for digestion. 109 red cards under the 'freely expressive' direction of Arsene Wenger. That would be 10 for fighting for the cause (Viera) and 99 for petulance and stupidity. Other little expressed fact is Arsenal are sitting on 193 million and yet have an aging broken goalie and no one on the outfield who made be said to make up the spine of the team. Re JM's humour his little skit on the Terry and Costa bust up needing a translator was comedy central. VG's 'army chant' is also a good laugh. All this is good for the circus that is hte PL but can you name a single instance where wenger made you laugh? Thought not unless it was at and not with him. Now looking at the energy of a half dozen or so managers who are now stirring up the circus by bringing in a few lions again to stem the flow of clowns, you cannot fail to notice not just the energy but also their friendliness and joy at this level. Then you have the Wenger - morose, restless, unfriendly and petulant. Poor old Gabriel has just become another one of his puppets. Santi the Clown anyone .... Listen to GG on the radio today who would know how to get his players to give Costa a run for his money. The PL is crying out for a new entertainment and it looks like JM and Costa know how to supply that. Deep down Wenger is just envious because he lacks both the bravery and the imagination. Did say Gabriel should have walked against Stoke so as opposed to him being a beast he is just out of his depth in a big match. ps How about the Hammers possession game played with purpose. Now there's a coach who knows a thing or two.

  2. Mark from Aylesbury

    Sep 20, 2015, 10:37 #76010

    Jameson - for such a tough guy as you like to project you really are knock kneed and Lilly livered when it comes to the dark arts. The simple fact is when Chelsea under Dennis Wise played against Tony, Patrick, Denis and even Thierry . The result was red card to Dennis Wise, pretty much gauranteed Chelsea defeat and much mirth . The players developed under Wenger have not had a leader for years and react badly under stress. There will always be idiot refs , dirty players . It's how you react. For Arsenal probable 2 points lost and Chelsea have momentum. Great day at the office. Not!

  3. Seven Kings Gooner

    Sep 20, 2015, 9:56 #76009

    Sam Costa (one for us oldies) was doing exactly what Jose told him to do. Last week a Stoke player was running past Gabriel and gave him a slap, Gabby instantly gave him one back and at that moment Jose knew just how he would start yesterday's game, JM does not turn down those kinds of invitations. Being tough and disciplined is as much about receiving treatment as it is giving it out and we fell for it again, which was a pity because had we got to half time with a full compliment of players, a 0-0 was the most likely outcome. However the most disturbing thing for me was listening to Garth Crook's rant against Costa, when GC is on your side the game is most definitely up but of course a certain "band of brothers" on this site, knew that years ago!

  4. Westlower

    Sep 20, 2015, 9:34 #76008

    Further to my previous post 80404, a comment about Costa on BBC Sport 13th Feb 2015. He (Costa) says that he must play in a "strong" way due to what he perceives as leniency from English refs compared to their Spanish counterparts.

  5. Ozzie

    Sep 20, 2015, 4:55 #76006

    Ah, 2nd on the table and only two points behind citeh and now nine points ahead of chel$ea - wow - always what could have been. Are we used to it by now?? :(

  6. mbg

    Sep 20, 2015, 0:34 #76005

    Peter Wain, 80314, the very first post on this thread, it just goes to show miracles do happen, just like OGL getting one over on Mourinho.

  7. mbg

    Sep 20, 2015, 0:14 #76004

    Clockend Mike, great post, sadly as far as Arsenal FC are concerned thanks to an old past it out of date manager those days are long long gone.

  8. mbg

    Sep 19, 2015, 23:30 #76003

    jj, good post, just watched motd, two words as far as wenger and his dwarfs are concerned, hilarious and embarrassing.

  9. mbg

    Sep 19, 2015, 23:16 #76002

    Hiccup, not at all, and cockerill was never heard of again. And when the names Paul Davis, and Gabriel, are mentioned today and are in twenty years time which one will we remember?

  10. Arseneknewbest

    Sep 19, 2015, 23:05 #76001

    Yuck - I feel soiled after watching that. Terrible referee, two teams of mincing, diving so-called pros run by p*ss-poor money-grubbing cretins, and a sociopathic cheat who is managed by a sub-human in the form of a football manager (who is nevertheless able to outsmart OGL every time we have the misfortune to play them). Best league in the world.

  11. mbg

    Sep 19, 2015, 23:01 #76000

    No mention of the woeful defending from the wenger apologists, nothing knew there then.

  12. Alsace

    Sep 19, 2015, 22:36 #75999

    Well we lost at the bridge - again. No surprise there. But others are right. Arsenal are a bore. Same old arsenal - taking our cash. Is there a team small enough who cannot learn how to outwit Wenger?

  13. mbg

    Sep 19, 2015, 22:31 #75998

    Roy, fair post, but more streetwise? they're not allowed to be mate, and this old past it and out of date manager we have won't have any one with those credentials about the place and if they happen to show them and if/when they do come here it's coached out of them and forbidden, and then when it becomes necessary (and any manager with at least one brain cell would know it is in the premiership)it's to late they haven't a clue how to be and the more cute opposition players and more importantly managers are laughing their arses off.

  14. Clockend Mike

    Sep 19, 2015, 22:29 #75997

    Where was the captain today? I ask because Adams would not have let Gabriel near Costa after the yellow. Forget the refs howler, these things happen. There was no leadership on the pitch hence the fiasco that followed. It could have been avoided.

  15. Ron Sunderling (Cornwall)

    Sep 19, 2015, 21:22 #75996

    Badarse. Welcome back! Like you, I enjoy Robert's excellent 'Arstalgia' articles. They are a refreshing change from, for example, Alex Steine's recent pretentious and self-indulgent drivel, which seemed to be a thinly veiled criticism of those who don't go along with his 'nuanced' 'zeitgeist' philosophical way of thinking. Wouldn't you agree?

  16. cyril

    Sep 19, 2015, 21:18 #75995

    I don't understand why Walcott is played as the striker. His qualities lie in his pace and being wide. He is nullified by centrebacks as he will naturally run across the field to stay onside. (i think he took tips of adebayor today) i digress! He has to be the wide player who is the outlet.Please, somebody!! One question to the gooner faithful - Would you have playeld Marc Overmars as centre forward?

  17. Hiccup

    Sep 19, 2015, 20:26 #75994

    Post of the day from Peter Wain (if you don't mind mag?). If Gabriel is gonna get sent off, smack the twat in the face. Go down as a legend like Davis who sorted out Glen Cockerill who thought he was some hard nut back in the day. Every player and fan in the country would have loved to have seen that. Letting the team down that way is far easier to take, but playing ****ing doctors and nurses with the **** ain't the way to do it.

  18. Roy

    Sep 19, 2015, 20:21 #75993

    Who was it that Costa kicked out at shortly before he was subbed which was worthy of yet another yellow card ? The Ox, I think ? If that had been me, I'd have turned round and twatted him by that stage I think. All in all, not brilliant though. Yes, may well have had a result if Dean had done his job properly, but why aren't we more streetwise? Another worrying no show from Ozil in a backs to the wall situation. He should have been hooked at half time following the sending off. But oh no, he had to use up a sub on Le Coq for whom there is no direct replacement who can do an adequate job, cutting down his tactical options. And who's fault would that be ? You would like to think that Costa will face some kind of retrospective action as I counted 4 offences that are normally automatic yellows, but I wouldn't hold your breath. I have a certain sympathy with Wenger over events today, but that in no way should overshadow his shortcomings. So it's onto the Lane of pain Weds - what the f***s going to happen there ?

  19. Hiccup

    Sep 19, 2015, 20:16 #75992

    And there we have it in a nutshell from WABATTD and Ron. We all knew what sh!t Costa was going to throw at us. Instead of retaliating with handbags, try handling it a bit different. Remember years back when someone would push up to your face, the way to handle it was to wave your hand in front of your face as though he had bad breath. Was hilarious to start with, and really wound such knobs up. But what did we see today? Kos doing a double flip back somersault when he pushed his chest against him. Don't you just think what the f*ck when you see that from your own players. You're resorting to their level. Just stand tall, laugh at the ****, and walk away sniggering. That'll get the desired result.

  20. 1971 Gooner

    Sep 19, 2015, 20:05 #75991

    The saddest thing for me is that this team is simply very, very boring to watch.

  21. Westlower

    Sep 19, 2015, 20:05 #75990

    Would somebody tell me how Costa has never received a red card while at Chelsea? He must be laughing his socks off how English refs tolerate his OTT behaviour. Contrast his fate to that well known hatchet man Cazorla. Perhaps refs get confused when Arsenal players stick up for themselves? Doesn't compute in their brain. What was going through Deans head when Costa kicked out at the Ox? Again Costa went unpunished. Forget the Kos incident, Costa should have walked for that kick alone because it was no different from the Gabriel kick. Maureen is a past master at substituting his offending ankle tappers. Three strikes and he takes them off. No need this time Maureen, as Mr Dean was never going to send off anyone in a Blue shirt. The dark arts are alive and kicking in Maureens world.

  22. mbg

    Sep 19, 2015, 20:03 #75989

    jw, yes mate just sat there and whinged nothing else (he wasn't capable) and he's still at it, and his apologists are following suit being given the perfect get out of jail card yet again.

  23. mbg

    Sep 19, 2015, 19:49 #75988

    Slavin Bilic has already been mentioned, good shout, break the bank for him now, he'll instil some pride and backbone back into this club (it wouldn't be hard to do) it'll certainly not take the £8,000,000 that's already being wasted on a waster.

  24. jeff wright

    Sep 19, 2015, 19:35 #75987

    mgb, yes there is a difference between being hard and acting petulant. Wenger himself is a victimin many ways of his own whinging about anti-football violent and rough tactics by urging refs to take action against them. . Again today he failed to have any input on what was occurring on field by making any tactical changes and as usual just sat there feeling sorry for himself or moaning at the 4th official .All in all a bad day at the office for the old boy with Chelsea beating us and Bilac's WHU beating City away. C' est la vie!

  25. mbg

    Sep 19, 2015, 19:04 #75986

    WABBATTD, superbly put it say it all, we had proper players then who knew what it was all about, and anyway it's too late trying to act like hard men now the rot has set in the damage is done.

  26. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Sep 19, 2015, 18:32 #75985

    Arsenal4Life; watch a video of Arsenal 3 Chelsea 1 in the FA Cup 5th round 2001. You'll see Dennis Wise pulling the same stroke that Costa did today, with one exception, TH laughed at him. We won the game that day, like we always used to against Chelsea. Not any more though. hmmm wonder why.

  27. mbg

    Sep 19, 2015, 18:29 #75984

    jw, that little fact always flies right over the usual heads, as captain Mainwaring says no no i'm not having that, maybe if they didn't have the reputation over the last six or seven years of being wimps and taking it it wouldn't be happening.

  28. Arsenal4life

    Sep 19, 2015, 18:14 #75983

    Interesting that those opposed to the current management slaughter the team,and wonder why the players are standing up to the opposition, yet deemed soft when they don't, you just can't win, while those that support the team see today's result for what it was, the Mike Dean/Diego Costa show. The team that was hours from going under for ever are truly the scum of London even more so than our North London neighbours, whose fans are vile and cretinous. Ron is another who likes so many other teams and renders anyone's opinions as juvenile and pathetic. His mate jj has a similar disposition too, I expect Watford to be his new team to follow.

  29. mbg

    Sep 19, 2015, 18:12 #75982

    It's all Gary Neville's fault.

  30. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Sep 19, 2015, 18:09 #75981

    Slaven Bilic anyone? He don't seem to have any problems setting his side up for a difficult away game

  31. Martyn

    Sep 19, 2015, 17:58 #75980

    I seem to remember Mourinho going mad at Mike Dean last season, calling him arrogant etc. I wonder what he is calling him today? The sending off, just like during the week, changed the game and I feel sorry for those fans on both sides who had to pay good money only to see what was developing into a close game becoming the Costa show. Yes, Gabriel was stupid but surely a warning from the referee would have been sufficient. Hopefully Costa will get a retrospective punishment.

  32. jeff wright

    Sep 19, 2015, 17:56 #75979

    Regarding the sending off's malarkey - why make it easy for refs to do it>? A very non-pro amateurish way to play by some of our players again - you would have thought that after the midweek shambles in Croat land that they would have kept a lid on things. This indiscipline by players letting the side down is down to one man,and no prizes for guessing who he is. TBH, I couldn't see us scoring and can't recall the Chelsea GK making any saves before the first sending off. It was again clear that Wally is no centre-forward and never lasts out 90minutes - so why start with him is the question - and the answer is because the alternative is slower than a French Snail on Mogadon big bad mouthy tattooed Olly ! How did we end up in this ludicrous situation>? Answers on a post card please to Monsieur Arsene Wenger in 8million a year la la land. Wenger really is totally inept at tactics and team selections. Worryingly, again Sanchez, who has not scored in the league now since the cows last came home ,again looks more like Arshavin with every passing game. He cut a pathetic and despondent figure when trudging off after Wenger subbed him. Ozil,well 42million >? Surely you're having a laugh Wenger ! Ramsey worth 50million and wanted by Barca!! So it has been claimed, well then ffs sell him to them pronto !!! Highly unlikely this though and the story looks like a typical Ivan Spin doctor job. Ramsey is a firm Arse fav and no matter how he plays along with some other duds like Ozil, he gets picked . So then it's the mighty spuds up next at the lane of pain , that should be fun .As Wenger claims that the League Cup is not worth his time we can assume that he will field a second string and youth side side .Then again he once claimed that the FAC was not worth bothering with but due to unforseen circumstances ( at least unforeseen by himself) arrogant Arsene had to change is mind on that claim . WIth the League Cup being his best hope of a trophy this season perhaps he will go for it. Then again with Leicester away at the weekend the same scenario presents its-self that he faced against Zagreb and we know what the result of his decisions there produced .Two defeats . Good old Arsene.

  33. Th14afc

    Sep 19, 2015, 17:44 #75978

    Costa is an absolute p rick!!as for mike dean...he threw us off last season by actually refereeing some of our games properly so that today he could revert back to his usual self of giving arsenal nothing,the mug...anyone havin a pop at arsenal today when they have fallen victim to costa...try beating the champions with 10 against 11 for 45 mins,it's never going to happen,the minute Gabriel went is the minute the game was over...arsenal were doing fine keepin Chelsea at bay until the red card...Costa should have gone

  34. Ho Hum

    Sep 19, 2015, 17:26 #75977

    On a more positive note, thought the red socks looked lovely!

  35. mbg

    Sep 19, 2015, 17:08 #75976

    Poor hard done by Gabriel complaining about the scratches on his neck, man up for fooks sake you'll get worse than that tonight from some tart you meet in a night club.

  36. Ho Hum

    Sep 19, 2015, 17:06 #75975

    Hiccup- It's those same fans who will help ensure the same 'injustices' occur again next season, and, if chief Wenger apologist John Cross is to be believed, a few seasons beyond that. AKBs never get tired of being victims.

  37. John Kosmina

    Sep 19, 2015, 17:04 #75974

    6 games in and Clouseau's brave new world in tatters! Totally unprepared for a season again! Amateur half hour against Costa! Who'd have thought it!

  38. vinnie

    Sep 19, 2015, 17:03 #75973

    predictable

  39. mbg

    Sep 19, 2015, 16:26 #75972

    Hiccup, spot on on both posts, trying to shake this reputation they have of being nice boys taking it and not being able to give it by acting hard, while all they are and always will be just like their manager whimpering wimps.

  40. Hiccup

    Sep 19, 2015, 16:23 #75971

    Ho hum. Ten minutes to go and Chelsea were sticking. We had ten mins plus injury time to have a go at them. We were in the ascendancy, and they were bricking it as they hadn't put the game away. A round of applause to Cazorla from the fans though as he trapsed off having distinguished any hope of a comeback. A total joke. Still, we have the Charity Shield in our cabinet which I wouldn't swap for the earth.

  41. Ho Hum

    Sep 19, 2015, 16:04 #75970

    90 minutes to make you so proud of the way our genius manager is able to instil discipline and professionalism into his players. It's always been his forte.

  42. Hiccup

    Sep 19, 2015, 15:42 #75969

    mag, every man and his dog knows exactly what that twat Costa and Mike Dean are all about. We read about it every f@cking day on here from westie. It's amazing how the only people on this planet who don't know about it are our manager and the team. Westie for manager!

  43. Peter Wain

    Sep 19, 2015, 15:24 #75968

    Quite predictable and now the injury crisis. How much longer is our club going to be run by these morons. |Happy to increase ticket prices but buy players don't be silly. Ok the referee was bad today but did we honestly look like scoring. And why oh why did not Gabriel smack Costa after he was sent off.

  44. mbg

    Sep 19, 2015, 15:18 #75967

    TOF getting the better of Mourinho didn't last long did it? is that a record? wenger out.

  45. Mathew

    Sep 19, 2015, 15:14 #75966

    Costa & Mourinho....an epic thug life !

  46. Joe S.

    Sep 19, 2015, 15:10 #75965

    Disgusting refereeing obviously,but everything I've come to hate from Wegner over the past five years or so has also come to play. Firstly the failure to improve the team in the off season is huge. There was nothing on the bench to change the game's direction. Secondly, Theo Walcott.No No No No No.Thirdly, Carzola was having a shocker so why wasn't he one of the one's substituted? The game plan was wrong from the beginning, even before the incident, the midfield were being out played.Mentally and tactically Arsenal didn't look up for it from the beginning.Total exasperation ensured.Well done to the remaining nine players on the field, but your boss has let you down.

  47. mbg

    Sep 19, 2015, 15:08 #75964

    From TOF on the bench right out onto the pitch not one of them fit for purpose, wenger out.

  48. Hiccup

    Sep 19, 2015, 15:07 #75962

    Well that worked out perfectly. For 40 minutes I thought we parked the bus to perfection. In fact I thought our bus parking was out of this world and looked like we were capable of getting a point out of the game. The first red card was a Godsend which all AKB's would have welcomed with open arms, as this result will now be put down to the ref, even though our so called professionals just don't have a clue how to walk away or keep out of trouble. At least when Vieira or Wrighty got themselves sent off, they left an imprint or head butt on some twat, not a pathetic David Beckham flick out a la France 98. Anyway, let me guess, we'll learn from this? Looking forward to reading the usual bout of sh!t on here. But hey, we never conceded a penalty this time, as no outfield player tipped the ball around the post this time. Thank God for small mercies.

  49. Wear Your Colours

    Sep 19, 2015, 15:05 #75961

    Sad day for football. The forces of darkness triumph again.

  50. danny

    Sep 19, 2015, 14:56 #75960

    Great decision to rest players mid week , 4 away games in a row and im not too sure if if we will go on to win any of them . Its a wind up , totally had enough

  51. Forlorn Hope

    Sep 19, 2015, 14:54 #75959

    That's it for me! I refuse to put myself through this any more. 10 years and just when your heart has the faintest glimmer of hope - BOOOOOOM! No discipline and 9 men later and normal service resumed for our £8,000,000 per year Specialist. I have no more respect for Wenger. Please put us out of misery......... the pistol is in the top drawer.

  52. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Sep 19, 2015, 14:47 #75958

    Ah well 0-2.all so predictable. Birmingham City used to have that fanzine Tired & Weary didn't they. Perhaps it's time Arsenal had one of the same name

  53. Exeter Gunner

    Sep 19, 2015, 12:28 #75957

    Badarse - Ron and Robert's disagreement wasn't over the article, it was over comments below it. If you're going back to sticking your oar in (in a way many of us hoped was finally over) then at least know what you're talking about. And going back to the 'underlings' type remarks will just lead to you getting ripped to pieces and going off in a huff again, as we have seen so many times before.

  54. Badarse

    Sep 19, 2015, 12:20 #75956

    My first visit to the Bridge was as a ten years old in 1958. It was a shock to this little boy as I'd expected all stadia to be as good as Highbury-this place clearly wasn't. Only saw the ball when it went up in the air but there were no goals to celebrate anyway. It almost sums up the antipathy I have felt on and off over the years for CFC. Just a quicky before I disappear 24601, I have seen the show four times!??! You know I am a numbers man, ha ha. When I mentioned the exchanged posts to the better half she reminded me of another visit we'd made in the 'nineties'-so seen the show over four decades.

  55. mbg

    Sep 19, 2015, 11:57 #75955

    For the first time in your life wenger you and your team show some balls and a bit of backbone today, if you can't and are just not capable of doing so stay on the coach or in the dressing room and leave it to the players themselves and we can all enjoy a result against Maureen and his chavs.

  56. Badarse

    Sep 19, 2015, 11:51 #75954

    Robert thank you once more. In my absence I see you fell foul of Ron. A poster who contests a view is acceptable, as we should expect to encounter this in all of life's situations, however if ego is cracked or hard-boiled it becomes a personality thing, and cannot be accepted as to the individual it shows a sign of weakness. Sorry you got sucked in. Be prepared for the underlings to try to rationalise the behaviour. Please continue with these remarkably researched pieces. If the custard pies are at the ready I'm over here Ron. Why me? Because I agreed with every single word in the article.

  57. Exeter Gunner

    Sep 19, 2015, 9:59 #75953

    Westlower - did you hear Wenger say there are 'no excuses' for a failure to perform today? That's NO EXCUSES. You have your cue.

  58. Westlower

    Sep 19, 2015, 9:32 #75952

    Chelsea have been awarded a penalty in this fixture for the last 3 years on the trot. The bookies are offering 11/4 they get another one today. Arsenal player getting a red card is 4/1. Chelsea player getting a red card is 6/1. Mike Dean is the ref & it depends if he cards the ankle tappers or their victims for retaliating. I think the best we can hope for today is a draw providing we finish the game with a full compliment of players & CFC haven't been awarded yet another penalty. Arsenal to keep a clean sheet is 3/1. Match Odds: Chelsea 7/5, draw 5/2, AFC 2/1.

  59. Hi Berry

    Sep 19, 2015, 8:59 #75951

    £25M profit and nearly £200M in the bank and Gazidas says "We continue to look to develop every aspect of our operations." Just about sums it all up.

  60. Roy

    Sep 18, 2015, 18:34 #75949

    Love your history lessons Robert. My abiding memory of the Bridge was Supermacs wild slash which deflected in against Orient was it ? in the Cup semi in 78. The old Bridge was the most unwelcoming of places, almost needing binoculars if you were behind the goal and I still remember the weeds growing on the terraces ! As far as tomorrow goes, I'd be very surprised if we took all 3 points. Just don't see it somehow after that totally avoidable shambles on Wed and Chavskis confidence- boosting win.

  61. John F

    Sep 18, 2015, 18:29 #75948

    Thanks Robert I really enjoyed reading that.Growing up on a Kingston council estate most of my mates were Chelsea fans.I used to go to the bridge keeping quiet in the shed end when we played them.What a horrible ground Stamford bridge used to be with some fans to match.I have to say I am Arsenals unlucky mascot as I have never apart from a 3-1win in a friendly back in the eighties seen us win there.Sorry chaps it was my fault for the 90/91 defeat I knew I should not have gone.Good to see Tony Woodcock I'd forgotten about him.

  62. mbg

    Sep 18, 2015, 17:44 #75945

    smithy, yes pick it out, i'd imagine there'll be plenty of celebrating in AKB central tonight.

  63. Th14afc

    Sep 18, 2015, 17:23 #75942

    Can't stand mourinho but I know already we'll hav to see his ugly gloating mug after tomorrow's game

  64. Charles

    Sep 18, 2015, 16:38 #75938

    I remember going to Stamford Bridge to stand on a deserted terrace watching us lose 1-0 on Monday Night Football in 1993, the attendance was only 17,725 and those who didn't go made a wise choice. I never enjoyed going there, It was always expensive and I think the FA cup game of 2003 was the only time I saw us win there in the flesh. Although being right behind Sylvinho as he smashed home the equaliser for 2-2 after being 2-0 down was a great moment and felt like a victory.

  65. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Sep 18, 2015, 16:08 #75935

    Ron, I suspect a 0-1 in the offing,we'll faff about for 60 minutes then concede from a corner. Whatever happens enjoy the weekend. 6W2lfB

  66. mbg

    Sep 18, 2015, 16:00 #75933

    So the boys have been working hard in training today, of course they have wally, on what exactly? no we haven't learned from Wednesday? as it would be a first. You couldn't make it up.

  67. Ron

    Sep 18, 2015, 15:41 #75932

    2-1 Chelsea tomorrow. Costa and Hazard. Sanchez for the Arse. Have a good week end lads.

  68. smithy

    Sep 18, 2015, 15:33 #75930

    just read SkySports website Arsenal made 24.7 million profit in the last year- doesn't that make the average fan feel happy! Back of the net! Look at that balance sheet! And I thought football was about glory on the pitch. And yes I don't think we should spend spend spend but I think we have the balance wrong at the grove.

  69. jeff wright

    Sep 18, 2015, 15:12 #75928

    there is certainly a touch of the cloud cuckoo lands about Wenger's tenure at the ' new' 10 year old stadium,mbg

  70. mbg

    Sep 18, 2015, 14:32 #75924

    jw, the cuckoo rectangle certainly has a ring to it.

  71. Wear Your Colours

    Sep 18, 2015, 14:19 #75922

    Robert thanks for some great memories again. So nice to read about the football history between these two clubs rather than the 'handshake gate' nonsense that the press seem to be focussed on today. Hoping we can add another victory to the list tomorrow. COYG!

  72. Exeter Gunner

    Sep 18, 2015, 14:04 #75919

    The 'brand new' stadium is now nearly 10 years old.

  73. jeff wright

    Sep 18, 2015, 14:00 #75918

    Johnny ,names such as diamond club ,corporate, etc are a clue as to what the intentions of the new stadium were all about. Since those early days some attempts have been made to make things more football by using names for sections of the coliseum borrowed from Highbury. The imitation clock ( a cuckoo one would be more appropriate)stuck up above one part supposedly makes it 'the clock end' .However the shape of the new stadium means that unlike the old one that there is not really any ends on it - everything goes around in an oblong rectangle ... rather like Wenger's European Cup campaigns ( yawn) ... but hey desperate men and all that... !

  74. johnnyhawleyloovinggooner

    Sep 18, 2015, 13:32 #75914

    Is it true our fantastic new state of the art football ground that we think everyone envys and was built from scratch does not comply fully with wheelchair users needs?if so it just sums up all that is wrong at arsenal these days.a lack of foresight on a project that size on wheelchair users in this day and age beggers belief.i only ask as we were not named as one of only 6 in the PL that were and i thought with a brand new ground we would top the list.

  75. Charlie George Orwell

    Sep 18, 2015, 13:24 #75912

    Another brilliant job Robert. That Kanu hat trick still makes me purr with delight.

  76. Peter Wain

    Sep 18, 2015, 12:58 #75909

    Anything less than a 3-0 defeat will be a miracle tomorrow.