Experience wins the day at The Lane

Arsenal progress in Capital One Cup v Tottenham



Experience wins the day at The Lane


On paper, it looked as if Arsenal would have too much for Spurs, with a far more experienced line up for last night’s 3rd round League Cup tie at White Hart Lane. Although the home side’s front four looked strong, behind them, you got the feeling that Mario Pocchetino was far from obsessed about winning this tie, and given the club’s Europa League schedule, you could see the logic in that. Heaven knows, Arsene Wenger has thrown enough domestic cup ties with his selections, even in finals and semi-finals. Certainly, the Tottenham backline looked very raw.

A nothingy opening 25 minutes without a shot on target at either end was mercifully broken by a good piece of following up by Mathieu Flamini, pouncing on the rebound from Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain’s shot. It is good to see Arsenal players chancing their arm from distance, and the Ox had a few pops over the course of the match. Spurs responded well, forcing three yellow cards for the Gunners in quick succession. Ospina was playing well, reminding observers of how his desire to dominate his area was such a marked contrast from Szczesny, although we’ll pass over the ball he dropped in the second half.

After the interval, the home side levelled. Debuchy did not do well enough to cut out a low cross from Chadli, and Calum Chambers got his clearance all wrong and beat his own keeper. Spurs were on the up, but the hope was that experience would weather the storm. Only Chambers and Joel Campbell could be called inexperienced players in the Arsenal side, and the latter has played in plenty of high profile matches abroad.

A key moment was Gibbs' goal-line headed clearance from Harry Kane’s shot, before Spurs sent on their new South Korean signing. Would he be better than Arsenal’s Park Chu-Young? What was that all about? Having said that, his only Gunners goal came in a League Cup tie from memory. But there was something very fishy about that transfer, and one suspects that maybe there were other reasons behind it than football. Did someone, somewhere, made some money from his fleeting non-sensical appearances in Champions League and Premier League matches?

I digress. Alexis entered the fray for Joel Campbell, who did little to make a case for more regular first team football and Arsenal looked more threatening, the sub himself having clear sight of goal, but failing to beat the keeper. No matter, Mathieu Flamini wasn’t done yet, and a corking first time volley put his side into the lead. The Flamster has, at times, raised his game when Spurs have been the opposition, and last night was no exception. Theo came on late for the Ox and in typical fashion missed a good chance to make the game completely safe in injury time.

It was a much needed win. No matter this was largely a different set of players from that which will travel to Leicester and lost at Chelsea. The club needed the boost of a derby victory after recent reverses. Ultimately, with their team selection, Tottenham made it easier than it should have been, but it also demonstrated that, by paying almost double the wage bill that Spurs do, Arsenal’s back up men are of higher quality and experience. Given the starting line ups, frankly it would have been disappointing not to have won this game.

Leicester are unbeaten in the Premier League so far this season. They will be a tougher proposition on Saturday, but the Gunners will have their first team out. It’s a game that Wenger’s men need to win to get their title challenge back on track. As for the players that turned out last night, another chance awaits them in Sheffield at the end of October. A good run in this competition would be no bad thing, even if Spurs were not really too bothered about achieving the same.

I am now on Twitter@KevinWhitcher01.

A new issue of The Gooner will be on sale at the away game v Leicester at the weekend. Full details tomorrow. It will be available to buy by post in the next day or two – details will be posted on this page.

DIGITAL ISSUES
The Gooner is also available in digital form, through The Gooner App on iPhones and iPads, the Exactly App for Android devices and now Kindle Fire owners can also get their fix by searching the Amazon App Store for The Gooner.

You can also subscribe at www.exacteditions.com and read it through your internet browser as well as receiving a code which will enable you to access issues on all the above devices.

All digital subscriptions include access to our digital back issue library which dates back to August 2010.


NEW! Subscribe to our weekly Gooner Fanzine newsletter for all the latest news, views, and videos from the intelligent voice of Arsenal supporters since 1987.

Please note that we will not share your email address with any 3rd parties.


Article Rating

Leave a comment

Sign-in with your Online Gooner forum login to add your comment. If you do not have a login register here.

83
comments

  1. BigDave thegooner

    Sep 25, 2015, 22:14 #76391

    Moronmahrinio ask's the question,is he right or wrong?? Personally I think he's right,Wengers got no one to answer to so he does what he likes,that's why were in the mess were in.

  2. Danny

    Sep 25, 2015, 18:56 #76384

    Looks like MAUREEN has another dig at the specialist of failure, saying all managers are under pressure to win, except one Maureen is saying, what majority feel. Wenger is fraud and needs to fired If Maureen wants a deeper dig at Arsenal, he should taunt Gazdis, asking him, how does he work reporting to the Manager!

  3. mbg

    Sep 25, 2015, 14:25 #76373

    Made Up Stat, that might explain a lot.

  4. Badarse

    Sep 25, 2015, 12:29 #76364

    Thank you Captain Frank, and I bet it's a magic hat!

  5. Captain Frank

    Sep 25, 2015, 11:39 #76360

    [Applauds Badarse] You have your critics sir, but that Mel and Griff post was very amusing. I tip my hat.

  6. Westlower

    Sep 25, 2015, 10:50 #76355

    Quotes from Pele the greatest footballer ever in today's papers: On Diego Costa - It is not good for children. It was dirty. So many things like this happen on the pitch and this is not good. It is not good for football. His favourite English team - Arsenal is a good team to play with. I would play for Arsenal if I had a chance.

  7. Made Up Stat

    Sep 25, 2015, 10:14 #76353

    I have it on good authority that Steve Bould's post is to sit on bulky brown envelopes that have Oriental writing on them. And may I say he does a stirling job.

  8. Badarse

    Sep 25, 2015, 8:14 #76352

    Griff: He's back then.-Mel: Who is?-G: Brad, the one who went down to heaven to get Charlie Drake as our new CF.-M: You mean Ted Drake. The other was a little comedian.-G: Oh, right; well we have enough comedians on here already.-M: True! Anyway there's no such place as heaven.-G: Don't be too sure Mel. I see westlower tugging a trolley full of his winnings through those Pearl & Dean gates, Saint Peter Hill-Wood in his commissionaires uniform saluting him, jj trying to blag an entry ticket from David Dein touting outside, but only getting a ticket to AFC, and he won't go there. See we all create our own hell.-M: Only one JC and that's Jeremy. Anyway he isn't Brad, he's Bard.-G: Is he?-G: Is he what?-M: Barred!-M: No. B,A,R,D. Bard, like Shakespeare.-G: Does he like him then?-M: Not so much his words, but he is ancient, and his posts are quite interesting, and funny.-G: See it could be an anagram. He might just be D,R,A,B.-M: No, he isn't that, at all, he always has his eye on the ball, not sure who's ball it is though.-G: That's it. It's cryptic. Eye=I, plus B,A,R,D. He's RABID!-M: OK, time for bed Griff.-G: I'm too excited now, thinking of Arsenal does that to me. I think of all those great 'oldies' like George Eastwest, defenders never knew which way he was going, even he didn't.-M: Great player, he was.-G: Yeah, and Joe Butcher.-M: Baker.-G: Was he a baker too?-m: Go to bed Griff!

  9. Badarse

    Sep 25, 2015, 7:39 #76351

    Good moaning Bard; there are three rules about throwing things out of the pram. One, choose the heaviest item. Two, have a target. Three, make sure your aim is true.

  10. Mark from Aylesbury

    Sep 25, 2015, 7:03 #76350

    Benjamin- kronke needs to show em and Wenger needs to spend Em. I'm talking Benjamin's!

  11. Fozzy

    Sep 25, 2015, 6:41 #76349

    Have always enjoyed watching Mathieu over the years. He has always got stuck in, has never fannied about and has never let us down. I just hope that Ozil will learn from watching.

  12. Kockney Gonner in New York

    Sep 25, 2015, 2:19 #76348

    I am so deflated with last 10!years ground hogg days BUT still go to games when back in Blighty from US and couldnt help myself jumping up and down in our NYC office singing like a madman after we beat those wanabees. "Rip it up and start it again!"

  13. Danny

    Sep 24, 2015, 21:09 #76346

    good win against the spuds. still paperd the cracks from the last two defeats mismanagement of striking options by the con artist , is still the problem Alexis is knackered and wally walnut and the giroud are crap. i also found teh OZ to be ineffective

  14. Jamerson

    Sep 24, 2015, 20:55 #76345

    Not our best performance yet we still had far too much for the spuds who as for as long as I can remember only really looked dangerous on set plays and hoofs up the park.I can see why the sours are moving to a new ground as their current one appears to be 'falling down,falling down'

  15. Benjamin

    Sep 24, 2015, 20:32 #76344

    Fair point Exeter although I was paraphrasing for impact. I have no issue with Kevin or anyone else not getting as much enjoyment out of the result as I did. I just said I was surprised and questioned whether they should find something to do which they do get some enjoyment from, at least until there's a new manager in charge. I'm of the view that I'll take my enjoyment where I can. I'm not likely to get it from seeing my team win the league so I'll take FA Cup wins and knocking Spurs out of a cup - aren't they a cup team - and any other results against so-called big sides (not likely I know before you all tell me that). Kevin has been doing a sterling job at The Gooner for well over a decade and I actually wonder whether he gets any enjoyment from that now or whether it's just "work". It would be sad for him and for us if that was the case, but it was just an observation which I hope is wide of the mark.

  16. Exeter Gunner

    Sep 24, 2015, 20:19 #76343

    Benjamin - there were plenty of comments before yours about this, so I think you're giving yourself a little too much credit there. No one was told to 'f*** off', it was simply pointed out those who - like yourself - suggested someone else should write the reports as it wasn't sufficiently 'celebratory' (what was that about accepting other opinions again?) that there are other match reports and other sites that will fulfil that required criteria.

  17. Benjamin

    Sep 24, 2015, 19:59 #76342

    Oh dear. Looks as though some are upset because I dared to ask whether Kevin had enjoyed the victory last night. All opinions are welcomed, unless I disagree with yours?? I'm not knocking Kevin because as I said I read all his stuff, buy The Gooner mainly for his content (and the Spy) and because he tells it like it is. My comment was purely because I was surprised at how downbeat the report was. Usually I am in full agreement with his point of view - including needing a new man in charge - but it just struck me this time that it didn't seem as though he'd got even a little bit of satisfaction from beating Spurs. Others have said the same so I'm not the only one who is thinking it. Honest view is that if you didn't enjoy last night then you really should think about doing something else with your time - I know many on here have already done that too. Please don't tell me to f*** off to Arseblog (used to be entertaining but now boring) or even worse Untold Arsenal. Kevin often says the fanzine and the site are for all Arsenal fans, whatever their point of view, so telling people to go elsewhere is not in line with that stance.

  18. Jason B

    Sep 24, 2015, 19:07 #76341

    Another defeat would've been 3 in a week.Well done gunners!

  19. mbg

    Sep 24, 2015, 18:53 #76340

    Alsace, nobody to blame last night you see, maybe we can smell another petition coming on.

  20. Rob

    Sep 24, 2015, 18:44 #76339

    Belatedly- can I say to those whinging about Kev's report, submit an article to the Gooner online or print, and I am sure it will see the light of day. All perspectives are welcomed are they not ? On a different note, some of our 'fans' did them and us no favours with their vandalism. It's simply an invitation to Spurs or Chelsea morons to reciprocate. Another reason I'm happy to avoid the match day 'experience'.

  21. HowardL

    Sep 24, 2015, 18:19 #76338

    It now seems that some of you here can't even enjoy beating the Spuds - in whatever competition. OMG. We didn't just beat Spurs - much more than that, we beat their moronic fans! Oh when the Spurs go marching out - well done the Flamster!

  22. Alsace

    Sep 24, 2015, 18:18 #76337

    The AKB's seem to have moved their anger from the rest of us to the Website Editor. Let's see if we can't find them a picture of George Graham to burn in effigy instead. Something which can't effectively answer back but reminds them of a glorious wonderful time when their muppet wasn't creaking at the helm.

  23. mbg

    Sep 24, 2015, 18:10 #76336

    Yes Exeter well said. Nick, with others it's just that every time the sun appears from behind the clouds they believe arsene has just farted

  24. Gaz

    Sep 24, 2015, 17:48 #76335

    Spot on EG. Personally if I thought the majority of this site were pro-Wenger I'd just stop posting and go to the excellent Arsenal Truth website which is also mainly 'anti-Wenger' and who's opinions I also agree with. As it is I like the balance struck here even if its percieved as being negative in the main and if you dont like it-and as EG has suggested-go to Arsenal untold where the vibe is very much pro-Wenger. They're complete bonkers if you ask me but I'd never dream of posting on there and telling them that! As for Kev's editorial I found it excellent reading again and if you dont like it dont read it! Of course any win against the scum is great but I thought it very much looked like two sides who couldn't care less about going out which is why I couldnt get overly excited about it all. Sorry!...

  25. Exeter Gunner

    Sep 24, 2015, 17:43 #76334

    Indeed it's all just different perspectives. For instance, I see these 'positive posters' as rather a negative lot in their celebration of mediocrity, grubbing around for signs of 'progress' in barren ground, wallowing happily in a stagnant pool...

  26. Nick

    Sep 24, 2015, 17:38 #76333

    I cannot understand why some throw vitriol at others for daring to have an opinion that doesn't coincide with their own, its possible to thoroughly enjoy a win over the old enemy but still point out areas where we need to improve and criticize the managers tactics ie substitutions etc, its what being a football supporter and lover is all about, it would be a dull and repressive world if we all HAD to think the same , I'm overjoyed we beat the spuds, but I also think for us to go on to bigger and better things we MUST improve!!

  27. Bard

    Sep 24, 2015, 17:34 #76332

    Exeter, well said mate. I would add they can also go and read Arseblog, where even a thrashing is seen as progress. Kev writes it as he sees it in my experience. Its all up there to be debated and argued about. Baddie good to see you back after a lengthy absence. It does always take a while to find those toys again after they have been thrown out of the pram.

  28. mbg

    Sep 24, 2015, 17:18 #76331

    Plenty of smiles, smirks, and sly grins from TOF last night wasn't there, not a frown in sight, as for the spitting and excuses from him (like on here today) non existent, and did you see all those hand shakes (while actually looking at their faces) all round ? a sight to behold I thought he was going to go back round and shake all their hands again, obviously we won.

  29. GoonerRon

    Sep 24, 2015, 17:17 #76330

    I don't any of the more positive posters on here have said this result changes anything but merely that if the editor did enjoy the win as some have suggested he did, it didn't come through in the focus or tone of his match report.

  30. Exeter Gunner

    Sep 24, 2015, 16:46 #76329

    To those moaning about this match report and the Gooner generally - this is how the Gooner is and this is the guy that writes the match reports. There are many, many other match reports and sites that will give you what you're looking for. As a pointer, there is a site called Untold Arsenal that many of you would love. Hope that helps.

  31. Badarse

    Sep 24, 2015, 16:26 #76328

    tpm, is that a mixed up way of announcing PMT? Since you are the font of wisdom, how do you determine what is and what isn't made up? My family and friends read this site occasionally and any untruths would be obvious. If it was made up then it was a reasonable story anyway, wasn't it, old bean? Your sole contribution is a little vacuous isn't it? Just for you I went to pick my wife up in the car just now with my grandson and a lad came out of an alleyway on his bike. I braked and he skidded and bumped into my car next to the wing mirror. He didn't mark the car fortunately and was unhurt. A split second earlier/later and he would have been hit hard or gone under the front wheels. So am turning this story into a victory for this old chap's reflexes. Good eh? Oh, and he clocked the badge on my shirt, and thought me wonderful, as you do.

  32. Peter Wain

    Sep 24, 2015, 16:15 #76327

    as someone who thought we would lose I am so glad I was wrong. Any victory over the Scum is special.

  33. Bard

    Sep 24, 2015, 16:15 #76326

    I have been away looking for a striker as you know but got home in time to watch the spuds being well beaten. Imagine my surprise when I got to reading the posts on here and realised that I had made a massive mistake. I thought it was round 26 of the league cup against a useless spurs team but no the posts told a different story. It was in fact a magnificent victory against one of europes leading lights. A victory that strengthens our pl challenge and re establishes us as one of the leading sides in Europe. The ABKs are that desperate for something to feast on that a cold bowl of porridge tastes like a 5star meal. How low can you set the bar ? Reading some these posts it would seem very low indeed.

  34. Ron

    Sep 24, 2015, 15:41 #76325

    Bob - Recall the 2007 season when the Spuds left their mark on the toilet areas in the away end at the Emirates. Smashed them up badly. Nothing done so far as i recall, apart from a gentle nudge to Tottenham to ask them to try and keep their nutters under control.

  35. mbg

    Sep 24, 2015, 15:39 #76324

    Tony Evans, 80757 spot on, of course Kev enjoyed the victory like we all did, but the fact we're not all getting carried away with it, (and we all know why that is as we've all been here before) whooping, bouncing, and creaming our pants is what's pissing the wengerites off.

  36. Bob Matthews

    Sep 24, 2015, 15:19 #76323

    As an aged 61 year old gooner i should be sensible and mature enough to frown upon the over enthusiastic behaviour of some of our younger supporters regarding the destruction of WHL signage. However i found it as funny as ****.

  37. mbg

    Sep 24, 2015, 15:03 #76322

    WABATTD, well said, and like the scousers this is Anfield sign,(another example) Carlisle were really intimidated by that last night weren't they, and indeed ourselves also, we're not exactly an intimidating force any more and haven't been for a long time with our own motto and pensioners.

  38. jeff wright

    Sep 24, 2015, 15:01 #76321

    Yes mbg, Wenger though will be disappointed that Giroud failed to score again and it's looking even more of a mistake by Wenger not to have signed a striker as each game goes by. The more pragmatic approach by our players was a welcome relief though from the usual tippy-tappy Prem fare that we are served up by Wenger every weekend. Fear not though because normal service will be resumed against Leicester !

  39. mbg

    Sep 24, 2015, 14:37 #76320

    jw, yes indeed and to hear TOF in his post match (while showing his best grin and smirk of course)you'd think he knew he was world class all along.

  40. Kate

    Sep 24, 2015, 14:08 #76319

    Ugh, Jeff Wright (%) I often marvel at your ability to use so many words to make such little sense!

  41. mbg

    Sep 24, 2015, 14:02 #76318

    Rob, your right a win's a win (like they all are) especially against the spuds, but like you say it changes nothing, just as any other win won't either (no matter how much others whoop at it), we're still stuck with an old out of date past it manager.

  42. RedPig

    Sep 24, 2015, 14:01 #76317

    Firstly I doubt you will find any Arsenal fans that didn’t enjoy that result last night. Secondly I have to smile at those leaping on the opportunity to show how much more they care … belittling anyone who doesn’t match their enthusiasm. To them I would say if you want to criticise anyone for not caring too much about last nights derby game then start with the 2 managers – neither of who picked a full strength side. To me that shows that it was a game they were prepared to lose.

  43. jeff wright

    Sep 24, 2015, 14:00 #76316

    Er Kate (?) What I'm saying is that beating the spuds at their place,or anywhere else,is great and I prefer that to having to read the usual excuses that we get when Wenger loses to Mourinho . However, Wenger's made no attempt to conceal his contempt or lack of interest in the League Cup, so therefore many of us do not get too carried away with things regarding the competition with Wenger in charge. Anothrer 'car accident' to paraphrase Wenger is only a matter of time in it.

  44. Tony Evans

    Sep 24, 2015, 13:59 #76315

    What's all this nonsense about Kevin's report. Who says he didn't enjoy the victory - of course he did, but why should he get carried away by it? All of what Kevin has written is factually correct, and quite rightly he has kept his feet on the ground and not gone overboard after one result against a Spuds side that is weak enough anyway even at full strength. I suggest those looking for unwarranted, lavish praise and not liking Kevin's excellent matter of fact, keeping it in perspective, style look for another Arsenal blog site.

  45. tpm

    Sep 24, 2015, 13:53 #76314

    badarse, why do you make stuff up...im sure you were so pleased whrn we originally signed the unkwown frecnh kid flamini, that you gave a thumbs up and had your mate text you. what rubbish and your story is irrelevant to the everything, hopefully its deleted.

  46. Garry

    Sep 24, 2015, 13:48 #76313

    I agree with the last post, the way we celebrated that "wonder goal" was amazing - great atmosphere and any "Derby games"are all about the result. The walk to Seven Sisters may have taken 1.5 hours, but it was great to see how pissed off the Spurts fans were - locked up in there pubs!! Haha!

  47. Kate

    Sep 24, 2015, 13:41 #76312

    Er, Jeff Wright (!), let me get this right: You are saying (I'm paraphrasing)"Wenger is an idiot and talks rubbish except when he puts less value on the League Cup in which case we must not be happy beating Spurs at their place"?

  48. Benjamin

    Sep 24, 2015, 13:37 #76311

    Out of interest Kevin were you at the game? If so then I'm even more surprised at your report because anyone who was there cannot have failed to have enjoyed the victory. If you weren't there then I'm still surprised because it really doesn't sound as though you wanted us to win at all. If that's the case then I really think you should consider whether you are the right person to write these reports. I've always read your stuff, including the books with Alex Fynn, and agree with a lot of it, but you have to be able to enjoy a victory over Spurs otherwise what's the point?

  49. Peter Wain

    Sep 24, 2015, 13:31 #76310

    A fabulous win which was most unexpected. Not a great game but any win against the scum I will take.

  50. Mark from Aylesbury

    Sep 24, 2015, 13:26 #76309

    WBTD - the banner at WHL should read the " game is about the glory!..... Of others!"

  51. jeff wright

    Sep 24, 2015, 13:24 #76308

    Er,Kate(?) Seeing as Wenger himself as said that he wouldn't bother celebrating winning the League Cup ( not that he has had a chance to do so having lost both finals he was in) and has used the tournament to try out the youth team players most seasons for donkeys years ,he said yesterday that with so many out on loan he couldn't do it this season,then it's hardly surprising that many can't get too worked up about our prospects in the LC with Wenger in charge. The FA Cup only became 'important' because of Wenger's failings in Europe and in the league. Anyway,it's Sheffield away next up in the Cup and it's likely to be grim up North as Wenger reverts back to dumbing down the League Cup again,we played our cup final last night in it.

  52. Stevo gooner

    Sep 24, 2015, 13:18 #76307

    Andy M - the best bit of writing on here fella. I stopped buying the Gooner long ago. Kev go and support Spurs

  53. Peter Hughes

    Sep 24, 2015, 13:08 #76306

    Worth going on change.org to vote on Mike Dean. Well known that he appears to not treat as fairly.Lets not forget that the decision has been made that Costa should have been sent off & Gabriel should have remained on the pitch. 92,000 have already voted.

  54. Mark from Aylesbury

    Sep 24, 2015, 13:07 #76305

    God yes Croydon .... Begone! Begone from my mind. Badarse I also lived in Rotherhithe for some time. I was in my mid twenties during the late 90's. the whole place was a war zone due to a 3 way gang battle between various elements. I found it extremely exciting at the time when telling mates back in Aylesbury. Oh dear what s young foolish lad I was . Highlights included. Mans finger being nailed to a pub door, some poor chap got stabbed 50 times in the buttocks with a Stanley knife (apparently a grassing punisment) routine murder and a local mr big being nearly assinated by a member of the INLA who obviously had time on his hands after the peace agreement. Think in a way Sarf London has improved somewhat....with the exception of Croydon.

  55. mbg

    Sep 24, 2015, 13:06 #76304

    The players have certainly took things upon themselves when their shooting and having a pop from distance and clearing their lines properly, instead of following outdated instructions and trying to walk it in and out, long may it last.

  56. Kate

    Sep 24, 2015, 13:05 #76303

    When we lost to Chelsea on Saturday the vast majority of Arsenal fans were outraged by the injustice of Costa going unpunished. Not Mr Whitcher though, he maintained that until we change the manager this sort of thing will keep on happening. Now we've just beaten Spurs away you'd think he'd be happy, but no. They fielded a weakened team, Wenger 'throws' cup matches, a long digression about a signing that didn't come off. Why does the fellow who writes all the match reports have to be someone who is more interested in getting Wenger out than enjoying an Arsenal win? Maybe you lot could share the match report writing around a bit. Simon Rose would be a good start.

  57. mbg

    Sep 24, 2015, 12:53 #76302

    it's always good to get one over on the spuds, even if they were a poor one, we're not exactly world class ourselves, an old and tired one yes (with a manager to match)but it was a good result (nothing to get moist over though) in a competition the manager holds with contempt, well done the team whoever picked it, bouldy ? or maybe the players just used their experience and took it upon themselves.

  58. johnnyhawleyloovinggooner

    Sep 24, 2015, 12:46 #76301

    Do arsenal not have CL group matchs to play?sign of progress that we dont have to feild a team of kids in this cup.things are bad when a win over the spuds does not cheer everyone up.i think they did want to win.they are like arsenal when we were rebuilding and have ajust there squad to fit the budget.cannot see anyone outthere better than AW or liverpool would already have replaced rodgers.can we play 2 DMs early in some other important matchs please?

  59. Tony Evans

    Sep 24, 2015, 12:32 #76300

    No problem at all with your match summary for me, Kevin. Of course it's always great beating that lot, even though we have held the upper hand for so long now it never gets boring, but there is no need to go over the top with a gushing report. Save that for when it's really earned against Bayern, Chelski, Citeh or Manure. By the way thought we may have heard from that staunch Gooner, Finsbury Joe, by now - ha ha ha!

  60. DJ

    Sep 24, 2015, 12:29 #76299

    I hope our manager noticed that Ramsey stood head and shouldersabove the rest of the field playing in his proper position in central midfield. I know it was basically a reserve game our team had a much better balance with two wide men supporting a central striker. Still back to the norm at Leicester with Ozil, Santi and Ramsey shoehorned into the team.

  61. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Sep 24, 2015, 12:26 #76298

    Not condoning it, but having those dumbass signs plastered up all round the ground is kind of asking for trouble ain't it. Presumably it's intended as some kind of motivation. "To Dare Is To Do". "The Game is about Glory". No it's not, it's about winning things. I always p**s myself laughing when TV shows the signs at QPR; "This is Loftus Road. We Are QPR". Wow, the opposition must be crapping themselves every time they see that.

  62. Badarse

    Sep 24, 2015, 12:23 #76297

    When I moved to Bermondsey as a nipper in the early 50s some swore incessantly-it was a common parlance. My parents never did, ergo I never did. Many used the language as a normal manner of communication. Without invective a swear word is harmless, though a little unimaginative, equally with it an ordinary word becomes loaded.

  63. Ron

    Sep 24, 2015, 12:16 #76296

    Mark - the atrocious 'mugs'together with the routine and crude usage of the 'c--ts' vernacular is widespread all over in London now and has been for quite some years by those too dim to know no any better. Seems to have become standard parlance from the mid 80s in my view, along with much other course SE language. Croydon? Oh dear!!

  64. Badarse

    Sep 24, 2015, 12:13 #76295

    Mark, have worked in Croydon too, not the best is it? Seems that south of the water has some serious problems, then again so do the rest of London, and of course the provinces are questionable too-only kidding! Good post to goonercolesyboy, I think he is just fed up with the nonsense, as I am on occasions. The veiled vitriol is a Chinese water torture though mate. The constant 'Arsene not Arsenal' digs etc. All playground stuff. We just need to cut each other a little slack...a dwarfs slack? Sounds rather rude.

  65. Mark from Aylesbury

    Sep 24, 2015, 12:01 #76294

    Colseyboy - at times you do interest me with some of your comments. Despite us coming from parallel positions. I note Badarse played good guy and tried to bridge some differing views. It's the constant use of the term mugs seems to undermine what you say, it's like me adding '****ers' every time I discuss somebody I don't agree with. Having once had the experience of working in Croydon where a common street talk slander was "you mug ****" how delightful. All you do is bring back unhappy memories of Croydon! Believe me it wasn't nice. Enjoy the win, well done you saw it live now chill!

  66. Badarse

    Sep 24, 2015, 11:55 #76293

    I have a tale. I was teaching a group of quite young French students at the time of Flamini's transfer and had made a connection during the break with a few of them-French manager, new arrival likely from France; in teaching any hook can work on occasions. Our little test sheet asked for the real name of 'Mr. Bean', which had been watched by the class. I received a text from a buddy saying the transfer had happened. I made eye contact with the small group of kids I'd chatted with, did a thumbs up sign and scribbled Mathieu Flamini at the bottom of the white board. When I checked their papers every child had scribbled the Flaminal's name as the real name of 'Mr. Bean'. Oh, and the Flamster and I share a birth date. Am a huge admirer.

  67. Chris

    Sep 24, 2015, 11:48 #76292

    "Did someone, somewhere, made some money from his fleeting non-sensical appearances in Champions League and Premier League matches?" Barrel scraping alert! Other than amongst the few (on here, a majority, admittedly) that lap up your utterings with a rapid '10/10', your credibility, Kevin, must have dropped to a new low with this. You are basically, but not-quite, accusing Wenger of corruption and defrauding the club. I think a rapid re-think and revision might be in order.

  68. jeff wright

    Sep 24, 2015, 11:35 #76290

    I thought that last nights game was a good old fashioned , in an old fashioned stadium , under the floodlights cup-tie. Like an old punch-drunk past it boxer finding his younger form again 31 year old Flim Flam struck with a brace of instinctive strikes. No one was more surprised by this than he was ! Wenger tried to get shut of Flammy in the summer but no one wanted him - even for free. As with le Coq last term when he was considered by Wenger to be surplus to requirements circumstances have worked out in Wenger's favour,even though by default. As someone once remarked,it's a funny old game. Anyway, it was the spuds and it's always good to beat them any-time - so well done Flammy. Did anyone notice though that Ozil was absent>? The OTT celebs by Colesyboy and his mates at the end by ripping out advertising hoardings and chucking them at the spuds supporters was a bit much but every club has its share of idiots - including the spuds themselves. In fact they have more than their fair share. I suspect though that while Wenger's old guard was beating a makeshift spuds outfit that the real revolution s in the tournament and game regarding the future have taken place elsewhere . Top 3 in the Prem is no easy call this season for Arsene. C'est la vie !

  69. Wear Your Colours

    Sep 24, 2015, 11:20 #76289

    Kevin, a good of summary of the match action. I really enjoyed seeing us win at the Lane and it did lift a little of the angst following the referring calamity at the Bridge. I thought Campbell played fairly well; he protected the ball well on the flanks and I was very impressed by his work-rate in tracking back. Chambers had a solid game and all those that Wenger gave a run out to in Zagreb (Ospina, Arteta, Debuchy and Gibbs) looked like they had lost that rustiness of the first game. Ten changes and team performed very well. Great result and encouragement for the future. COYG!

  70. Westlower

    Sep 24, 2015, 11:13 #76288

    Great result, adequate performance. In knockout games only the result is significant. Good lift for morale & the squad players got some much needed game time. The bookies rate our chances of winning the LC as the same as winning the PL at 11/2 OR 15.4%. To win a major trophy is 6/4 (40%), not to win one is 4/6 (60%). Whether the cynics acknowledge it or not the season is finely balanced & we are still poised to challenge on all fronts. Onwards & Upwards.

  71. Nick

    Sep 24, 2015, 11:10 #76287

    Beating the scum at any time whatever the competition is something all true gooners love, and boy did I love the Flamini brace, the second and winner was a terrific strike worthy of any top striker let alone an aging dm with very little game time under his belt, silencing the odious spud crowd is always enjoyable.I was pleasantly surprised with the team selection, and unlike Kevin I thought that Campbell put in a good shift , he chased back and helped out the defence and held the ball up well to and was unlucky with a determined run and header early on that saw him take a nasty tumble over the hoardings to the amusement of the home knuckle draggers, I still have criticism's however, it was obvious in the second half with the scum enjoying as period of dominance that an equalizer was on its way, we needed an outlet which Giroud wasn't supplying, and Arteta on a yellow was slow and a weak link as was a rusty Debuchy on the right , but yet again Wenger waits untill the horse has bolted before locking the stable door , have the league passed a law without our knowledge making it illegal for Arsenal to use subs before the allotted 65 or 75 minutes ? No matter this time we won at the home of the enemy , even if the inability of our STRIKERS to find the net is becoming something more than a niggling worry , Giroud missed his only chance the same applies to Sanchez and Walcott missing their respective singular opportunities, its bad enough having one first team striker out of sorts but all three is a major concern ,, I happen to think letting Podolski go was an error I thought it at the time our injury list and form worries simply bolster my belief that it was a huge mistake more so in the light of the failure to buy a striker or goal scoring wide man in the window , what Wengers dereliction of duty has achieved is to make a season of opportunity into one where we approach each match in hope rather than expectation, which is why I believe that our main hope of silverware this term is in the league cup , it remains to be seen whether our myopic and stubborn manager realizes this as well or if he truly thinks that our squad as it stands can compete on all fronts.

  72. Torbay gooner

    Sep 24, 2015, 11:02 #76286

    Always pleased to beat them and happy for Flamini, with two well taken goals. However, as Kevin has said our line-up was considerably more experienced than theirs and a defeat on that basis would have been very disappointing. Let's face it, this is only one of two competitions we can actually win, so might as well put out a strong team. Let's hope we can be the team to end Leicester's unbeaten run and score a few in the process. Happy days, ha.

  73. Alsace

    Sep 24, 2015, 10:55 #76285

    Flamini:- (1)Following in for his first goal which he lifted over the goalkeeper so that he couldn’t save again. (2)Again being up in the box to exploit a defender’s error and to score a coal with a volley from a falling ball which if Lionel Messi had scored it would be European front page news.(3)Actually caring what happened in a game against Spurs. Do they make proper players like this anymore?

  74. Badarse

    Sep 24, 2015, 10:51 #76284

    Morning goonercolseyboy, glad you had a good game. Some/many people get into a mind set, often a downward spiral-life does that to you, and travelling beside you every step of the way is the awareness that the sands of time are running out, which can push you down a certain pathway. Hence misdirected, misunderstood, or just a plain 'miss' of a view. Writing reports is a task that can become a chore, I write for my grandson's matches and that is very much 'little league', both in standard of playing and the standard of writing. This man, Kevin, does a miraculous job, but he is human. If you are on the 'up' then comments, conversations, become laced with a sense of positivity, otherwise the darkness can creep onto the page. I am not saying this report necessarily reflects that-difficult to reflect in a shadow?-but it is an overall view of where we are, rather than what occurred last night. Unfortunately as this site's fan base is divided it will show as being correct, and incorrect in it's approach. Those who live the moment-which sounds a little too grandiose I admit-want the vibe of winning, beating the Sours on their own patch etc. Those who have now got their sights set on something some way off-which may be a mirage-will always have that record playing on the turntable. In other words they can go from day to day with the handbrake on. It is a common thread when perusing the posts on here. If you are in a hole in the ground mentally, then a fine meal does nothing for the psyche. I think people need reminding of a tenet I try to live with-think different, not right or wrong. Thank you Kevin. Normal service will now be resumed...quick duck!

  75. GoonerRon

    Sep 24, 2015, 10:41 #76283

    'I digress'. The understatement of the millennium. Your Arsenal bashing seemingly knows no bounds. You know we beat that lot at SHL, right? Yes they're ****, yes we're ****, yes the competition is ****, but any Gooner worth their salt would at least sound slightly happy about it.

  76. Seven Kings Gooner

    Sep 24, 2015, 10:38 #76282

    Enjoyable win and I think Kev summed it up really well, Leicester will be much tougher that is for sure. I'd like Westflower to give the odds on Flamini being the club's leading goal scorer by the end of September.

  77. goonercolesyboy

    Sep 24, 2015, 10:14 #76281

    I have had my say about last night in the previous article and ended with damned if you do, damned if you don't. Nice one Andy, about time someone else commented on this site and its current tendencies.. Such a low key report, oh yes forgot, it was only the capital one cup, who cares anyways? Mugs.

  78. Ron

    Sep 24, 2015, 10:09 #76280

    Decent report Kev. I'm sure you ll ignore the babies (first 2 posts above). Any win s a good win there. I bet it was 'fun' up that stinking High Road back to Seven Sisters last night. A good draw and they might as well give the Cap One a go now i reckon. Its our only chance of a trophy. Flamini has always been a good grafter. Pleased for him. Imagine a player in that role, 2 or 3 inches taller, a bit heavier, slightly younger and with a meaner disposition, doing it every week. We d be quids in wouldn't we.

  79. Rob

    Sep 24, 2015, 10:07 #76279

    I agree with Kevin in general that things won't change until Wenger goes. Therefore yes, a win is a win and it's nice to beat Spurs, but we've seen this all before, haven't we? I suspect Kev is a bit bored. Can this result be interpreted as progress??? Nah...

  80. Clockend Mike

    Sep 24, 2015, 9:52 #76278

    A win is a win - even better against your North London Rivals. Two teams playing for league position only - Tottenham for 5th (or 4th) and us for 4th or 3rd, with a cup run to enjoy with a possible day out at Wembley at the end. This is a change from 8 plus years ago when we viewed this cup as a way of blooding youth thereby letting the first team rest for the title challenges ahead. Times have changed. The vandalism in the ground probably reflects that as well.

  81. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Sep 24, 2015, 9:48 #76277

    A win is a win is a win. Our esteemed neighbours needed putting back in their place, after beating some pub side and then lucking it out against Palace, they seemed to think they were on the up. Ha.

  82. divingrooney

    Sep 24, 2015, 9:43 #76276

    It is sad, that whenever Arsenal win, there are so many if and buts in the match report. As if trying to make the point, that we played ****, and deserved to lose, but unfortunately won. Of course, when Arsenal lose, then no ifs and buts are counted, and everyone associated with the club is declared as ****....

  83. Andy M

    Sep 24, 2015, 9:36 #76275

    You must be gutted we won Kevin, as is clear from your "match report". You've lost the plot big-time at Gooner Towers,to the point of anti-Arsenal. I thought there must be a limit to the amount of direct and in this example, indirect criticism/hate you have for the manager and club in general. I just hope enough of you online followers feel entertained enough to put their hands in their pockets and buy the Gooner magazine, like I once did, until you lost the plot and used the site to bash gour own personal agenda.Que lots of comments from "supporters" slagging off the importance of the carling cup etc, how it was a **** spurs side that we beat etc etc. If you can't enjoy winning North London derby Kevin & Co, I suggest you take up golf or any other pastime that will actually bring a smile to your face.