#ThrowbackThursday – Everton at Home

Part one of a look back at the Toffeemen’s visits to Arsenal



#ThrowbackThursday – Everton at Home


After the retirement of Sir Alex Ferguson in 2013 a Man Utd supporting colleague of mine - only old enough to have known football during the Premiership era - said he was confident in the abilities of David Moyes to follow the old Govan shop steward at Old Trafford because he had (in his words) ' built Everton 's best ever side'. If you've only ever known football during the Premiership era it's easy to overlook the fact that Everton have actually won nine titles during their history - the fourth highest ever tally and the same number in which the last two Premiership winners, Chelsea and Man City, have won combined.

Everton were founded in 1878 as St. Domingo's after the Methodist church of the same name within the Everton area of Liverpool to enable the people of the parish to play sport all year round (the club played Cricket in the summer). The name of Everton was adopted when people outside of the parish began to participate. The club’s crest features Prince Rupert’s Tower – a local landmark also known as ‘Everton Lock-up’ which was an overnight holding place where local drunks and criminals were taken by parish constables – which sits atop of Everton Brow, a hillside which runs off of St Domingo Road in Liverpool. Beneath the crest is the Latin phrase of ‘Nil Satis Nisi Optimum’, which translates into English as ‘Nothing but the best is Good enough’.

Everton were also founder members of the Football League in 1888 and of the original twelve clubs have been the most historically successful. They've spent more seasons in the top tier than any other club, with just four seasons spent outside of it. As a result, Arsenal have played more League fixtures against Everton than any other side. Everton’s first visit to Woolwich Arsenal came in 1905, which Arsenal won 2-1 with a goal from former Liverpool player Charlie Satterthwaite, who also scored Arsenal’s first top flight goal against Wolves eight months earlier. The Evertonians were Merseyside's original club and, as told in my piece on Liverpool back in August, were the original occupants of Anfield before a dispute with the landlord led to their eviction in 1892 and the formation of their Merseyside rivals as a direct result.

The club’s nickname of the ‘Toffees’ or ‘Toffeemen’ actually derives from their time at Anfield and the move to their new ground on the other side of Stanley Park - Goodison Park – which in 1892 became Football’s first ever purpose built stadium. ‘Ye Anciente Everton Toffee House’ located close to Anfield became famous for selling huge amounts of confectionery to the crowds which amassed to watch Everton. When the club moved to Goodison, a rival confectioner called Mother Noblett’s Toffee Shop created the ‘Everton Mint’, which was the same toffee but wrapped in a black and white crunchy outer shell, which were Everton’s home colours at the time. As a gimmick the club arranged with Mother Noblett’s to allow an attractive girl to throw free Everton Mints to the crowd prior to every match, permanently aligning the club to their product. The patent for the Everton Mint has since been sold to the Bassett sweet company to mass produce on an industrial scale.

The year prior to eviction in 1891, Everton became Merseyside's first League champions. The earliest Merseyside Derby caught on camera came in 1902, as seen here. Everton won their first FA Cup in 1906 secured by beating Newcastle 1-0 at Crystal Palace, though lost the final the following season against The Wednesday of Sheffield. Everton were also the last side to win the League Championship before football ceased due to the First World War in 1914/15, pipping Oldham Athletic by just one point. Everton’s first sustained period of success however came after the late 1920s, inspired by the signing of William 'Dixie' Dean from Tranmere in 1925 (in the un-PC days of the 1920s he acquired his nickname because his peers thought his dark hair and dark complexion made him look like an Afro-American from the deep south of the USA).

Dean fired Everton to the 1927/28 league title with a record sixty league goals (still a top flight record 87 years later). Dean achieved the record by scoring an incredible seventeen goals in the final nine games of the season. The record of fifty nine goals was set a year earlier by Middlesbrough’s George Camsell and was broken with a hat-trick in Everton's final league fixture of the season at Highbury, away to Arsenal, which ended in a 3-3 draw. This game was also the final game played by Arsenal forward Charles Buchan, however he found himself upstaged by Dixie on this day. This here is an interview with Dixie Dean for the Guardian Newspaper half a century on in 1977.

Despite their title win in 1927/28, within two season Everton would finish rock bottom and be relegated to the second tier for the first time in their history at the end of the 1929/30 season. The Toffees however would only remain there for just one season, winning promotion back to the top flight in 1930/31 by winning the Second Division Championship by seven points at a time when a winning side were awarded two points. Their form continued on promotion, here battering Chelsea 7-2 in November and securing the league title in their first year back in the top flight, pipping Arsenal to the title by two points (Arsenal’s 1931/32 season is covered here in an article which I wrote for the Online Gooner back in 2013.

Everton’s trophy winning form carried on into the next season, despite dropping to eleventh in the League the Toffees won the 1933 FA Cup Final against Manchester City 3–0. The following year Everton were covered in Pathe’s series on top level sides in training, who along with Dixie Dean also included the balding 37 year old Warneford Cresswell (who the narrator hilariously describes as ‘regularly celebrates his twenty first birthday’) and goalkeeper Ted Sagar who was an Everton regular for over two decades. Between their title win in 1931 and 1938, Everton only finished in the top half of the table just once finishing eighth in 1934/35. The only inter-war visit to Highbury by an Everton side to be caught by the newsreel was the opening fixture of the 1936/37 season, which Arsenal won 3-2 with goals from Alex James, Eddie Hapgood and Ray Bowden with Dixie Dean and Alex Stevenson scoring for the Toffees.

Everton were the last side to win the League Championship before the outbreak of World War Two, winning the title by four clear points, as well as reaching the FA Cup Quarter Finals, caught in action here in the Fifth round against Birmingham and inspired by the signing of Tommy Lawton from Burnley who replaced Dixie Dean and bagged sixty five goals in just eighty seven appearances for Everton. Lawton however, in his own words in this interview with Granada TV in the early 1980s, would spend the happiest years of his career at Arsenal, though as with most footballers of his era would not be handsomely rewarded financially from his successful career. This interview included a meeting with a modern day Footballer in Trevor Francis, then of Man City, who would remark how fortunate he was to be playing in such an era but that the era of players earning big money ‘couldn’t go on for ever’ (nearly thirty five years on, and even the mediocre ones are earning much more than Francis, let alone Lawton!).

In the years immediately following the Second World War Everton would face decline, finishing in the bottom half of the table for four years out of five. During this period, Everton would sell Joe Mercer to Arsenal, after he fell out with the club. An Everton visit to Highbury would also be caught by the newsreel in 1949/50 with Arsenal winning 5-2 with two goals from Peter Goring, two for Reg Lewis and one for Don Roper. That same season Everton would miss out on a Wembley final against Arsenal through losing the Semi Final to neighbours Liverpool 0-2 at Maine Road. The following season Everton would finish rock bottom of the old First Division and would be relegated to the second tier for only the second time in their history, remaining there for three seasons. Everton’s lowest ever finish came in 1952/53, as Joe Mercer lifted the League Championship as Arsenal captain, his old club were languishing in sixteenth place in the second tier.

The following season however the Toffees would return to the top flight as runners up, just as their neighbours Liverpool were on their way down to the second tier where they would remain until 1962. The next Everton visit to Highbury caught on video would be Arsenal’s 3-1 defeat of the Toffeemen in January 1959, with two goals for Vic Groves and one for Jimmy Bloomfield. Twenty Two months on, Arsenal would secure another victory before the cameras with a 3-2 win emanating from a David Herd hat-trick.

Everton’s return to prominence came with the introduction of the founder of Littlewoods Pools and mail order catalogue empire, John Moores, who invested in the club in 1960 just as the maximum wage was to be abolished and the retain and transfer system came to be challenged. The following year he sacked manager Johnny Carey while the two were riding a London taxi to an FA meeting (apparently the origin of the phrase ‘Taxi for….’ when shouted at an under fire manager) and appointed Harry Catterick in his place. The Moores family also held shares in Liverpool FC, who at roughly the same time appointed Bill Shankly as manager. At John Moores’ insistence, Liverpool appointed Eric Sawyer of the Littlewoods Group to the board, who was considered a close ally of Shankly in his transformation of Liverpool FC.

The City of Liverpool has always had a side in the top tier of English football since the inception of the Football League in 1888, however there would be eleven years without a league fixture between the two sides between 1951 and 1962. The first Merseyside derby in eleven years in September 1962 ended in a 2-2 draw at Goodison Park. John Moore’s investment paid off with Everton securing their first post-war title in 1962/63, with signings from smaller clubs such as Gordon West from Blackpool, Alex Young from Hearts and Tony Kay from Sheffield Wednesday. That season however, Arsenal took all three points with 4-3 win and goals from Joe Baker, Johnny McLeod, Alan Skirton and Geoff Strong for Arsenal, while Tony Kay, Roy Vernon and Alex Young were on target for Everton. By the end of that calendar year, on Everton’s return to Highbury the following season Arsenal duly thumped the Toffees 6-0, with goals from George Armstrong, two for Joe Baker, two for George Eastham and one for Geoff Strong.

Everton finished third that season, five points behind rivals Liverpool who won the 1963/64 League Championship. By mid-April of 1964 however Everton would be rocked by the involvement of star player Tony Kay in the great match fixing scandal along with his former Sheffield Wednesday team mates Peter Swan and David ‘Bronco’ Layne, as well as ten other professional players who were later to serve jail sentences for their involvement. The great match fixing scandal of 1964 would later be dramatized in 1997 in a BBC play called ‘The Fix’ which starred Steve Coogan and Ricky Tomlinson, as well as written and directed by Paul Greengrass who later went on to direct the Bourne Supremacy and subsequent other films from the Bourne action series. Ironically, Everton would return to trophy-winning ways two years later coming back from two goals down against Kay’s old side Sheffield Wednesday to win 3-2, along with a hilarious one man pitch invasion by a jubilant middle aged balding Evertonian eventually upended by a rugby-tackling policeman.

Eighteen months on and a 2-2 draw at Highbury between Arsenal and Everton would be caught by the Match of the Day cameras. This game would also feature heavily in the Ken Loach directed Wednesday Play ‘The Golden Vision’, screened on the BBC in April 1968. In this era of ‘scripted reality’ shows such as TOWIE and Made in Chelsea, it’s easy to forget that back in the 1960s, the genre of the Docu-Drama did something similar in mixing the production techniques of current affairs documentaries (featuring interviews with Harry Catterick, his assistant - and future assistant to Terry Neill at Highbury - Wilf Dixon, as well as Everton stars Alex Young, Ray Wilson and Brian Labone), with that of drama. Unlike the ilk of TOWIE however, rather than using talentless fame hungry non-entities the ‘Golden Vision’ actually used Equity card holding actors such as Ken Jones (who went on to star as ‘Horrible’ Ives in Porridge) and Bill Dean (who went on to star as Harry Cross in Brookside). The ‘Golden Vision’ was also scripted by Gordon Honeycombe, who later went on to find wider fame as a newscaster on ITN and TV-AM and sadly passed away a couple of weeks ago at the age of seventy nine after a battle with Leukemia.

Everton returned to Wembley in the FA Cup Final in 1968, but were defeated 0-1 to West Bromwich Albion. Everton would kick off the 1969/70 season at Highbury, inflicting a 0-1 defeat on Arsenal. The Rodgers won plaudits for their style of football in 1969/70, with the midfield ‘holy trinity’ of World Cup winner Alan Ball signed from Blackpool, the recently departed Howard Kendall and the ‘White Pele’ Colin Harvey, as well as Joe Royle up front. The Toffees managed a 3-2 win over Leeds at the end of August, a 3-1 win over Sunderland in October, however after a calamitous 0-3 defeat at home in the Merseyside derby Catterick had barred the TV cameras from Goodison as to avoid opposition managers analysing Everton’s style of play. In the title run-in, Everton got their revenge on Liverpool with a 2-0 win at Anfield and the title secured with a 1-0 win over West Brom at Goodison Park in April.

Everton’s return to Highbury as defending champions in 1970/71 brought a 4-0 win for Arsenal in October 1970 with two goals from Ray Kennedy, a Peter Storey penalty and one from Eddie Kelly. Two weeks later Everton would be involved in a piece of history by winning the first ever penalty shoot-out in the European Cup against Borussia Monchengladbach. Again as in 1950, the privilege of meeting Arsenal in the 1971 FA Cup Final was decided by an all Merseyside Semi-Final won by Liverpool 2-1 at Old Trafford. The look of despair on Alan Ball’s face as Liverpool put away their second reflected the Toffees decline. The next visit of Everton to Highbury on New Years’ Day of 1972 coincided with Alan Ball’s debut for Arsenal against his old club, which ended 1-1 with a goal from Peter Simpson for Arsenal and Howard Kendall scoring for Everton.

Between 1971 and 1973 Everton would finish in the bottom half of the table for three seasons in a row leading to Harry Catterick’s resignation in 1974. Everton’s decline coincided with Liverpool’s rise from the early to mid-1970s, with Everton after beating Liverpool 1-0 at Goodison in late 1971 failing to score another win against their rivals until October 1978, when an Andy King goal secured a 1-0 win over the red half of Merseyside also ending Liverpool’s run of 23 League games unbeaten. Everton’s return to the big time however would not materialise until the prodigal return of one of the Toffees’ midfield ‘Holy Trinity’ in 1981, to return the club back somewhere near the standing it held during their 1960s halcyon era.

Part two follows tomorrow.

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  1. jeff wright

    Oct 24, 2015, 14:39 #77862

    Colesyboy, I suggest that you stick to posting such gems as Benzema is joining us instead of inflicting your gay fantasies on us.

  2. Nick

    Oct 24, 2015, 10:53 #77856

    I attended the 4-0 win in 70/71, I remember it well as I still bear a reminder of that day,my friend and I were late for the train at Hertford North station so we ran for it I jumped down a flight of stairs badly hurting my ankle, but still carried on our journey and was rewarded with a fine display and a thumping win which my mate and I watched from the North Bank, my ankle had swollen up like a gallon by the time I got home but I still managed a few pints that night in celebration. Years later in fact last year the same ankle inexplicably began to swell again, I was told at the hospital that the ankle had been fractured years ago and allowed to heal on its own creating a bone spur which I am waiting to have removed, the moral of the story ? Nothing stands in the way of a gooner and the Arsenal , lol

  3. Ron

    Oct 23, 2015, 22:24 #77848

    exiled and d - Goodison still has mate. The Anfield atmosphere myth lives on when in actual fact it had died to normal levels of other clubs by the late 70s. Like a morgue now unless theyre winning and its propped up by thousands of roof mic s, same as WHL another speaker fueled atmosphere. 'Walk on' is rendered by 75 pc tape music now at kick off time. Im not convinced all of this Klopp boll---s will change much either, unless they bank roll him a couple of hundred Million and thats not likely as they build the Stadium there.

  4. goonercolesyboy

    Oct 23, 2015, 19:12 #77843

    jw and mbg need to get a room. Watch out for the grooming products in the bathroom though, might get sticky with you two.

  5. mbg

    Oct 23, 2015, 18:38 #77842

    jw, there you are then make of that as you will, the best of luck.

  6. exiled&dangerous

    Oct 23, 2015, 16:30 #77840

    Goodison always had a better atmosphere, inside the ground and in the pubs near it, than that red lot across the park........

  7. jeff wright

    Oct 23, 2015, 15:08 #77835

    Football is a simple game Badarse and only fools make it complicated. I prefer to watch realistic challenges for trophies rather than ones based on the manager turning water into wine or trying to walk on water. Wenger's ineptitude and arrogance doe-sent do much either to help his case but perhaps a stint in the Ropey on a Thursday night will do him good. He avoids this usually though by going out of Europe in the first KO round after pocketing the TV cash for Stan. Sorry I can't get excited about this or the alleged title challengers that always end in March. Good old Arsene.

  8. Badarse

    Oct 23, 2015, 14:38 #77833

    Hi jeff, you haven't told me anything which Is remotely surprising, nor I think to anyone with a general perception of character traits. You will never discover that necessary empathetic quality, because it doesn't lurk under the bed, or in the ironing cupboard. It is within the individual. Empathy cannot be taught. A child who is starved of a parents' love, without the other parent being able to intervene and offer it, or an alternative outsider proving influential, suffers a thing entitled 'Attachment Disorder, (AD), and will find empathy absent for life. It answers many of societies ills in this era. One parent families, kids as parents lacking understanding/experience etc, drink or substance abuse, aligned with the cultural failings-we don't enjoy or engage with the family as much as other cultures,(generally older cultures), therefore often no support network-so kids can be isolated, and their suffering, (mentally), largely goes unreported, have little or no empathy, and probably never will. Therefore I hold out no hope for yourself. Your political view is just an extension of your character, and it's traits, no surprises, all transparently obvious. I have conservative friends who are good people and not painted into a corner of ignorance, and some socialists I know wouldn't recognise another socialist if they slept with him or her. Life and understanding of reality is all about the control of the id and the super-ego. What does that? The one thing which is maligned and panned in modern-day parlance, the ego, vital to a balanced mind. It is something which perhaps is yawning all the time when you post jeff. Now that is taking your eye off the ball-clumsy or what?

  9. mbg

    Oct 23, 2015, 14:31 #77832

    jw, and so say all of us.

  10. jeff wright

    Oct 23, 2015, 12:41 #77824

    Wenger's mistakes or triumphs are his not mine or yours Badarse - if managers were not responsible for these things then they would not get the accolades or the sack! In Arsene's case of course the sack does not apply - he has been fired though in the past but operates in a unique situation in football at business plan Stan's AFC. Where 4th place is a trophy,providing it provides Champions League group stage cash. We have been down this us and them road before Badarse it is a long and winding one that leads us to nowhere. Along with others I'm waiting for that moment in time when once again I can feel empathy with the AFC manager , team and club. It may never come but I intend to keep on protesting and to point out the realities against the illusions that are going on at AFC under Wenger and co .You don't like this of course in your little happy meal land in which you live I understand that. I'm not sure what any of the political points that you alluded to are about though ,anyway I have my Jeremy Corbyn mask ready for Halloween night and the great thing is that you don't need to make any changes to his face to make it look terrifying to kids and animals !

  11. Badarse

    Oct 23, 2015, 11:42 #77818

    jeff great right-wing journo/talk radio/government style warping of facts and truth in your post. You said pig thick players, I said pig's bladder, was that yet another Freudian slip? On the subject of these little giveaways, you always refer to an AFC team/club situation as someone else's dilemma or problem-in everyday parlance I always talk of 'our' situation. This is just another example of Freudianism. Do you always find it so simple to disengage? Asylum seekers-not interested. Unemployment-don't care. Injustices in the world-doesn't affect me. NHS finances-got my own Private Care. Anyway pig thick, and all that. Pigs are one of the most intelligent creatures on the planet-read Animal Farm, Orwell knew that 70 years ago, so no surprise they took over the farm. Oink! Oink!

  12. Torbay gooner

    Oct 23, 2015, 11:36 #77817

    Thanks Robert, some great old footage there. Liked the Tommy Lawton and Trevor Francis link especially. We do have a fine record against Everton, let's continue it tomorrow!

  13. jeff wright

    Oct 23, 2015, 11:08 #77813

    You hit the nail on the head , albeit inadvertently so , Badarse with your analogy of pig thick players scoring goals by accident. Many so called wonder goals are flukes in reality,you know the ones from way outside the area that fly in and look world class. The same players who score them usually end up by hitting a corner flag or someone in the top tier of the stadium with those world class shots. Anyway,I have given big Olly credit for scoring the first goal because he went flying in like a bat out of hell and fortune favoured the brave so to speak. The main thing is that the win helped out Arsene who is in trouble again in Europe he prevailed on the night if he does so in the long run is another matter the success that you have is equal to the success that you make.As Arsene knows though only too well,money can't buy you love.

  14. Badarse

    Oct 23, 2015, 8:42 #77803

    Good morning my sunshine breakfasteers. Robert, am so sorry, I never thanked you for another great article, well done buddy. jeff you are a practising reductionist, you too mbg, though you are a little more complex. You remind me of that Harry Enfield character. 'Football is just a load of blokes in short trousers kicking a pig's bladder around on the grass. Some midget gives a great boot, a clumsy carthorse-who has no idea of what is going on falls over and the idiot keeper misses the ball, the keystone cop defenders just bump into each other and the ball finishes up in the net. All part of a borefest.' Reduce everything, as we do automatically when we want to offer a put down or comedy sketch and it works. Beware though as it can take over and become a personality trait-too late, it has happened! You need to address this. A romantic situation of lovers engaging beneath a full moon in a moonlit garden when reduced becomes two fumbling individuals, panting, getting fingers caught in straps and zips, leaking all over each other, perhaps with runny noses, possibly guilt ridden if in the dark there were two couples and by accident hooked up with the wrong opposite number, and leaving the garden muddied and damp-with gnat bites on bare bottoms.

  15. jeff wright

    Oct 22, 2015, 19:18 #77796

    mgb, Wally had a poor game the other night as did Sanchez he is no defender and did more harm than good giving the ball away in dangerous areas,fortunately Cech saved his bacon on two occasions for him. It's still early days yet but it's hard to see how Wenger can keep on playing Wally and Sanchez in every game -we know what the result of that will be. The best thing Wally did was to walk off to allow big Olly to come on I would like to give Arsene some credit for making an astute tactical move but as we all know his subs are preplanned before the game and only injuries change this. So just a bit of luck really on the free-kick as Giroud admitted himself afterwards - but you have to buy a ticket in a raffle to win it so he deserves some credit for scoring the goal that against the run of yawn inducing tedium changed the game in our favour. Wenger can't keep on being lucky though against a clearly better side and more tactically aware manager so nothing won yet with the return round away to come. All of this talk from Wally is to just milk the situation for all it's worth in case Arsene's glass coach turns into a pumpkin again at midnight - or whatever time in Bavaria.

  16. mbg

    Oct 22, 2015, 18:46 #77795

    Wally the mouth piece has been wheeled out again pre Everton, (the Welsh pope musn't have been up to the job and been demoted) telling those who listen all's well and after beating Bayern they have sent a clear message to their rivals what their intentions are, and that they mean business (I know don't laugh) conveniently forgetting (as usual) the embarrassing defeats before that, and it just might have been, just might mind you, been a bit more credible if they weren't bottom of the league after said defeats and with only a slim chance of getting out of the group. You have to give it to him he's good if only he was as good at playing the game. You couldn't make it up.

  17. jeff wright

    Oct 22, 2015, 18:22 #77793

    For me one of Wenger's worst signings ever (among an ever increasing number) was Francis Jeffers from Everton for 8M at that time 8m was a lot of money. Wing-nut was hopelessly out of his depth playing alongside such greats as Bergkamp and co. A very odd signing to say the least. Good old Arsene. The scouser was supposed to be the elusive fox-in-the-box striker that Henry claimed that we needed. We still haven't got him though and probably never will do as this animal appears now days to be extinct in the game .As we saw the other night against Peps pass-the parcel posers a good old fashioned high cross on a set piece into the opponents goal area with a big clumsy striker hurtling in on the end of it can cause confusion and do what the pussyfooting around often fails to do .All very non-vorsprung durch technik- that but many have thought this plan-B could be used a bit more and would do better against the park the bus merchants that cause so many problems in home games against Wenger's tippy-tappy approach play walk the ball into the net . We can expect to see some bus parking from Everton as most managers other than LVG see this as being the best way to get a result at the Emirates .

  18. Hiccup

    Oct 22, 2015, 17:18 #77790

    Further worrying injury news ahead of Saturday evening's must not miss extravaganza. Anton du Beke is to face a late fitness test after pulling up in training this week, with a suspected calf strain. Brendan Cole, who clearly needs a break, is set to step in as well as performing his own routine. Two dances in one day! i just hope the judges take fatigue in to account when they're marking their scores.

  19. Westlower

    Oct 22, 2015, 17:16 #77789

    Roy Vernon scored 2 goals in a 4-1 Everton victory in 1958 & 3 goals in a 4-1 win in 1961. Apart from Everton winning 6-1 in 1985 Arsenal have come out best in the high scoring games. 1958 6-1, Herd x4, Groves, Bloomfield. 1963 4-3, Baker, McLeod, Skirton, Strong. 1963 6-0, Baker x2, Eastham x2, Strong, Armstrong. 1970 4-0, Kennedy x2, Storey, Kelly. 1991 4-2, Wright x4. 1998 4-0, Overmars x2, Bilic og, Adams. 2004 4-1, DB10, Reyes, Ljunberg, Pires. 2005 7-0, Pires x2, RVP, Vieira, Edu, DB10, Flamini. 2007 4-1, Eduardo x2, Adebayor, Rosicky. 2009 6-1, Denilson, TV, Gallas, Fabx2, Eduardo. 2014 4-1, Giroud x2, Ozil, Arteta.

  20. mbg

    Oct 22, 2015, 16:46 #77786

    Robert, there's a lot of Arsenal fans or should I say arsene fans who've ever only known Arsenal with wenger during the premiership years, or even only the last nine, ten, years with OGL, then there's those who have no interest in knowing or even remembering anything before, such is their devotion to wenger. I know you have done a couple before but quite a while ago now, so maybe now is the time again for another piece or two on the History of Arsenal (before the French lord and master graced us with his presence) if it hasn't been wiped or air brushed out of history that is, taking in the George Graham era of course, just to let everyone know, and remind them, there was an Arsenal before arsene the great arrived to form us.

  21. Seven Kings Gooner

    Oct 22, 2015, 16:17 #77782

    Westflower : TBH I just quoted what Frank put in his book and it seemed like the game was at Everton and late in the season because Frank missed a summer tour with Scotland. However I will dig through my Arsenal programmes and try to piece it together. Talking of beating Everton saw us lose 2-3 last game of 61 62 season - George Swindon's last game as manager, then I think a couple of seasons later we thrashed 6-0, then recently we have had some 7 up's against them. Would be interesting reading the goals for and against columns.

  22. Ron

    Oct 22, 2015, 15:53 #77778

    Good stuff Westie - i had seen the head to head on 11 v 11 a few months back though mate. Thanks anyway. 2-0 Gunners on Saturday. Chamberlain and Giroud. Crowd - 59,863. Weather - sunny spells some drizzle slight breeze. Red cards - none. Yellow cards 2 - Coquelin and Naismith. Wengers mood - miserable. Boulds facial expression - vacant and remote. Referee mark - 3 from 10. Kroenkes wig shape - absurd. Club Level passion - Nil. Bar Staff performance in Tollington 10 from 10.

  23. Another old Geezer

    Oct 22, 2015, 15:46 #77777

    Many thanks Robert for the time and effort you put into writing your articles on Arsenal’s forthcoming opponents, with references to previous matches against The Arsenal. I especially appreciate the links to the old footages of those times and games. The articles certainly stir the old memory bank, recalling some of the old games that I saw. I still remember the thrilling 4-3 win against Everton at Highbury in the 1962-63 season, followed by the 6-0 win the next season. Even though the Arsenal of the 1960s is often decried, they were still exciting times for a school - boy to cut his ‘Arsenal supporting’ teeth on!

  24. Ron

    Oct 22, 2015, 15:21 #77775

    SKG - Vernon died in 1993. I didn't know. Just googled it.

  25. Westlower

    Oct 22, 2015, 15:21 #77774

    @Ron, The head to head stats v Everton, Arsenal won 99, Everton 59 with 45 drawn. Just managed to buy 2 tickets in the West stand for the Sunderland game on Dec 5th - not many left. Anyone who doubts that tickets at the Emirates are not in demand just try buying some yourself. Must be harder than getting tickets for a local derby at the 9th tier level, The Greyhound v Kings Arms, even if they are ten times dearer.

  26. Ron

    Oct 22, 2015, 15:02 #77773

    If im not mistaken i think we ve beaten Everton more times than we have any other Club. Also, i think Everton have lost more top level games than any other Club too. Surprising. Draws must be thin on the ground in Evertons history given their honours list and pedigree.Cant recall where i read this. Ill leave it to the footie historians to validate.

  27. Westlower

    Oct 22, 2015, 14:48 #77772

    @SKG, Time flies! It was 31st October 1964, the game you're referring to. I can be confident of the date because it was the only occasion when Vernon & McLintock played against each other at Highbury. Arsenal won the game 3-1 with goals from Terry Anderson & 2 from Joe Baker. Fred Pickering scored for Everton. Attendance 33,561. It was Alex Parker's final appearance for Everton. Teams: Burns, Howe, McCullough, McLintock, Neill, Court, Anderson, Sammels, Baker, Eastham, Armstrong. I think Baker, Eastham & Armstrong were Arsenal's Holy Trinity. Everton: Rankin, Parker, Brown, Labone, Gabriel, Vernon, Scott, Stevens, Pickering, Young, Morrissey.

  28. Seven Kings Gooner

    Oct 22, 2015, 13:34 #77768

    Westflower : I saw that 1-1 draw, Kendall scored a cracking volley at the North Bank end, IMO Ball never really fitted in at Arsenal although we should have won something in 72 73 season. As an aside, Frank had real set to with Roy Vernon in the player's lounge at Everton season 67 - 68? April time. Vernon badly injured our skipper by leaving his foot in, Frank's leg was plastered from foot to thigh and recounting in his autobiography, (True Grit) FM limped up the 50 odd steps to the lounge and as RV walked in accusing Frank of feigning injury, our skipper leapt on him and apparently it took three of our players to drag him off the petrified Welshman. Frank was fuming because the injury put him out of a pre season tour with Scotland to Australia and New Zealand. Sadly Vernon died 10 or so years later from cancer.

  29. Mark from Aylesbury

    Oct 22, 2015, 12:55 #77767

    Off topic but sad news about Johan Cruyff today. I wish him all the very best. Obviously he was known for being a heavy smoker but it is a horrible disease.

  30. Westlower

    Oct 22, 2015, 11:51 #77762

    @Robert, Alan Ball made his Arsenal debut on 27th Dec 1971 at Nottingham Forest. The game ended 1-1, George Graham scored. The Everton game a few days later was his home debut, wearing his famous white boots. His ex Everton team mates gave him a rough ride. Teams: Wilson, Rice, McNab, Roberts, Simpson, Kelly, Ball, Kennedy, Radford, Graham, Armstrong (George). Everton: West, McLaughlin, Scott, Darracott, Lyons, Kenyon, Kendall, Johnson, Whittle, Royle, Jones. Goal scorers - Peter Simpson & Howard Kendall. Attendance 47,031.