I Come To Praise Caesar

A bit of perspective from a Doncaster Rovers supporter



I Come To Praise Caesar

Gus – A class act in the lower leagues


It was a pleasure to visit the Emirates recently – and for the right one of the two Bayern games. It was only my second time watching Arsenal live since the move from Highbury and in the company of my friend Ian, a lifelong fan now in his fifth decade of support for the Gunners. My own team, Doncaster Rovers, has never scaled the heady heights of the Premiership - gallingly that’s been the fortune of our version of Spurs, Barnsley. We do, however, take comfort in the fact that, unlike the clay-footed Tykes, we’ve always had a reputation for football purism, (Arsenal fans at this point may laugh at our acquisition of the label The Arsenal of League One as we passed our way to promotion in a style you will have become familiar with under M. Wenger). A five-year illumination of the Championship followed and our chairman John Ryan (if you don’t know how Rovers were funded by their one-time saviour, just google Melinda Messenger and all will be revealed) was talking Champions League football to our wonder boss Sean O’Driscoll. In fact, you may also recall your last gasp equaliser and penalty victory over us in the last eight of the League Cup, tenth anniversary with us soon.

While we have our own new(ish) ground, the Keepmoat, I was struck by the fact that we can’t boast the array of murals and statues of sparkling stars of yesteryear that you so visibly do. The sheer volume of legends is testimony to Arsenal’s illustrious past but, at the same time, the mischief in me found voice, so I asked Ian, ‘Where’s Gus Caesar’?

But I’m not being nasty. When you watch lower league football, there is a reverence reserved for those players who have, albeit briefly, played at the highest level - although fans can be very cruel, funny and generous and often at the same time. I once attended a Scarborough v Leigh RMI thriller where the visiting keeper had the most appalling things shouted at him by east Yorkshire ‘wits’. In the goalmouth quiet, during one of the many periods when the ball was stuck in a dense midfield battle, it was suggested to him that he might be better off retiring from football and dedicating himself to the performance of anatomical acts of mindboggling dexterity and depravity on his own person, to which he replied ‘I really wouldn’t mind what he says, but that’s me dad!’ The home crowd was won over and a strange hero was born. All is audible away from the Emirates – this is what you miss.

So our two worlds collide in the figure of Gus Caesar, whom you saw on the hopeful way up, and I saw on the, in Gus’s case, dignified way down. He came to Belle Vue (our old ground) some 20 years ago in deep December in a Colchester shirt and, at that level, was a virtual Bobby Moore, a colossus of a figure, controlling the game, making sense of the messes that clutter Division 4/League 2 games at the back, elegantly dispatching the ball to a midfield that grew in confidence and composure - all emanated from the former Arsenal star that night, and they walked away with all three points. So, maybe not statue time at the Emirates for Gus just yet, but proof that you have to be capable of an awful lot on the green to get anywhere near wearing your red and white shirt. Ours is just a little easier to come by.


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  1. mbg

    Nov 19, 2015, 22:12 #79410

    Ron, yes mate, one of three immortal words improvised, adapt, overcome, synonymous with Arsenal on quite a few occasions especially on the two most famous ones anyway, and both under George Graham, what we might have achieved or won over the last ten years if we'd have had someone capable of instilling that/those into the players that we had then, or more so now, but sadly we know we haven't anyone even remotely capable of that, especially this old manager we have now.

  2. Roy

    Nov 19, 2015, 17:21 #79396

    Great article and a somewhat salutary lesson. I went to the Everton away league game in 88/89. Gus played that day, and believe me he didn't put a foot wrong. The lesson being that fate sometimes is indeed a cruel mistress. Some can cope with a high profile moment of adversity, some can't.

  3. Mark from Aylesbury

    Nov 19, 2015, 17:02 #79393

    Ron - I'd have that on my cv like a shot . Just so so pissed off they did It!

  4. Ron

    Nov 19, 2015, 16:52 #79391

    Mark - i wdt mind that 'scroungy' CL win on AFCs curriculum vitae though. It was dour stuff how they did it, but you have to give credit due. They accepted they weren't the best equipped to football their way to win it, so they improvised. They had better teams in yrs earlier that were beaten in it quite unfairly. The Barca loss they had a few yrs before comes to mind. If ever there was a bent ref that yr .......

  5. mbg

    Nov 19, 2015, 16:43 #79390

    Andy, you didn't and still don't have to be capable of an awful lot to get to wear our shirt either mate, it was/has been pretty easy to come by too over the years with some of the second and third rate rubbish, deadwood, and wasters we've had to put up with (on nice fat contracts to and couldn't get rid of either) over the last ten years on our nice bowling green of a pitch thanks to an old past it manager's failed projects and philosophies.

  6. Ron

    Nov 19, 2015, 10:31 #79345

    I hope Chambers suddenly flourishes especially as hes an english lad. It seems to have happened for Smalling, though the latter has a defensively astute Coach who has re moulded him seemingly.I think under Wenger, with AFC s type of game / set up, its going to doubly hard for any prospective young lad to excel as a defender. AKB is right though, young Chambers has shown nothing yet. Maybe a loan will be a good thing for him. Sitting idle wont change things for him. Defensive stability for any team starts from the front, not the back. At Arsenal, Coquelin aside, the middle of the park and the front men assume little to no defensive responsibilities and without the ball those sections of the team are largely redundant. Defenders will always be exposed and its this that makes Merter and Kos look hapless at times in fairness to them. I think Arsne plays the 'percentage game'. He knows he ll win more than he ll lose by keeping to his risky strategy of play, but in the tighter games v quality teams it ll fail him more often than not and has done so for a very long time. In the PL, this year of all years though, with the CL more or less gone, the strategy could well win the title. It ll never win the CL though.

  7. Badarse

    Nov 19, 2015, 8:36 #79342

    Good morning, permit me goonercolesyboy-I'm not trying to teach my grandmother to suck eggs, (she sucked everything-we called her Dyson!), I am aware you are a joined up chap-I just want to put it out there. In a discussion it should be a fair exchange, if it develops negatively and descends you walk away. Easy! When facing someone and they start to shift and wobble then you know you have them. When they begin with vague personalised jibes then the game is over, and you are the winner. Easy! The most basic ploy is a smokescreen which can take many forms, from tapping into a sense of patriotism at the top end-as in the 'Bitch's' Las Malvinas strategy, right down to the hairy bottom end in posts on this site. Posters begin insulting, without any justification, and only based on a personal interpretation of exchanges, eg, 'You are pompous!' That discussion then descends and the 'loser' walks away grinning, thinking he'd lost but has snatched a draw in stoppage time. Wild accusations, unsubstantiated allusions, all earning 'pack' support-endorsing an unreasonable view. The use of the 'AKBs' line immediately tells any thinking man the poster has lost. Ridiculous statements disguise a vacuous offering-it's what I refer to as the 'banging of dustbin lids'. Create a disturbance off stage, distract attention by pointing 'Over there!' it's often enough. Thing is, even though the 'smokescreen' being used has little or no connection to the subject, or is just plain silly, it is oft sufficient. Some think their characteristics aren't on display, that's laughable! Many are transparent and easily seen through...who said that?

  8. goonercolesyboy

    Nov 18, 2015, 21:13 #79340

    Idol of the akbs cheerleading club? Based on what?

  9. John F

    Nov 18, 2015, 20:43 #79339

    Hi Andy 4 wins out of six for Fergie jnr bit better for Rovers since you got rid of Arsenal old boy Dickov.Bit early to judge chambers he may be like my middle son who grew like a bean pole untell he was 21 then he started to fill out.Bit strange really as i'm only 5ft10 and he is well over 6ft same size as the milkman.Interesting stat about Alexis being the player who gets dispossessed the most in the prem this season which might be a sign of being knackered,he needs a break.

  10. Arseneknewbest

    Nov 18, 2015, 20:23 #79338

    I think Chambers somehow succeeds in looking worse every time he pulls on a shirt. No positional awareness, deteriorating technique, light in the tackle, wayward passing, and an inability to inspire confidence among his peers. He had a shocker against Sheffield Weds, but so did many others. Bouldy's coaching and the confidence building by OGL are clearly working wonders! The auguries aren't that good in my view, and he's certainly not the best young player we've raided from the scummers (nor is wall-E of course). We're expressing subjective views here and one theory will be proved right in time. But to me, he looks like a pretty costly mistake. This isn't me being contrary because he's the idol of the AKB cheerleader's club. I just don't think he's that good.

  11. Westlower

    Nov 18, 2015, 20:05 #79337

    It's important to keep an open mind during a players formative years. Too many people take a snap shot which then proves hard to shift from their mind. Improvement can come at any time as experience & confidence builds. I posted about Jimmy Dunne earlier today. He'd been at Sheffield United for 3 years before his career took off. There is no given set template for a player, each develops in his own time, some precocious, some late comers to the party. All we can do as fans is be tolerant of mistakes they make as they learn their trade.

  12. Badarse

    Nov 18, 2015, 19:57 #79336

    Never overlook the fact that young Callum Chambers is very skilful. If he bridges the divide between apprentice and qualified, he will be a 'ball playing' footballer. When he was bought it was for his potential-every young player is. Some stutter, misfire, flatter to deceive, and go in fits and starts. Rarely does a player gate crash the party of 'big boys' as Hector has done. Jack, Ox, Theo-will they, won't they? A gamble on development is open to so many facets, personal-in their maturity and mental strength, plus environmental-who plays with them, and where they are played. It is a wonder any actually 'make it' nowadays, especially when you add the divisive qualities the media may bring, and the financial influences surrounding them. Callum has one major thing going for him-youth.

  13. goonercolesyboy

    Nov 18, 2015, 19:33 #79335

    Chambers is 19, lacks experience as a centre half and needs to learn his position. He does very well for the England under 21's and has Southgate to guide him there as well as Bould at Arsenal. He looked terrific when he first signed but was played more than expected when we had no centre halves fit. He was then run ragged at right back by that Swansea winger Montero, but let's face it who hasn't. Way too early to write him off and is the fourth centre half at the club. Might even be a holding midfield player in time. Remember Bellerin against Dortmund? And now look at him, maybe the best right back in the premiership.

  14. Mark from Aylesbury

    Nov 18, 2015, 19:22 #79334

    Ron - you may be right about Chelsea being unlucky, but they can stay unlucky all the way till season end. It still won't make up for their scroungy champions league win and in fairness I did back Manu and Liverpool each time they played. The hurt that tattooed fascistic Chelsea dullards are feeling right now is just icing on the cake

  15. mbg

    Nov 18, 2015, 19:10 #79333

    Andy, it's good to see you came to praise Gus and not the other Caesar we have, (there's enough doing that as it is)funny coincidence though as your probably seeing this old Caesar on a less dignified way down.

  16. Wrinkly Voyeur

    Nov 18, 2015, 16:57 #79330

    well...errr...overall..errrr badarse do you belieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve?

  17. Badarse

    Nov 18, 2015, 16:24 #79327

    Behave mbg! Bestiality is still a crime in England.

  18. mbg

    Nov 18, 2015, 16:23 #79326

    jw, to PC ? (only to some, who love it)it's hard to beat a good paddy Irish, Scots, Englishman joke, i'll look a few out, hope the fact I've left the Welsh out doesn't upset anyone and start a rant.

  19. mbg

    Nov 18, 2015, 16:10 #79325

    The cart horse really looked the part last night too.

  20. mbg

    Nov 18, 2015, 15:58 #79324

    Sorry, meant Andy.

  21. Badarse

    Nov 18, 2015, 15:56 #79323

    Did we mbg? Are you sure? Do I assume you think Arsenal Football Club began when Arsene Wenger arrived? I can assure you, despite the fact that I am a loud drum beater for AFC, we have had numerous ups and downs in my club's illustrious history-more than Helen's knickers too. Just ask Bard.

  22. Tony Evans

    Nov 18, 2015, 15:53 #79322

    Hi Ron - I always thought Chambers was a strange purchase and you are right in that he somehow doesn't really fit the bill for a defender. As for Gabriel he is definitely work in progress, but sort the temperament out and give him a decent run of games and you never know.

  23. mbg

    Nov 18, 2015, 15:47 #79321

    Ian, nice piece, but we don't scale those heady heights of the prem now either, we used to, we used to be feared winning everything in sight, and setting records, and lived up to all those legends and fancy murals, now we don't, and set all the wrong records, more often than not because of the manager and this so called football purism passing style under him you talk about.

  24. Ron

    Nov 18, 2015, 15:12 #79320

    I thought Chelsea were unlucky v Liv really Jeff and the one goal by Liv was miles offside i thought. One of them where had Chelsea have got the lead they would have beaten Liverpool i felt. In fairness to Chelsea, their results have been worse than how they've played. Put a win or 2 on the board and i think they ll motor on to be honest i think. Hi Tony - Cant make my mind up about the kid Chambers. It could be that Wenger cant either and hes searching for inspiration from the player to make his mind up? I dont think hes full back material, he seems too pole like to fill a middle man role and doesnt seem strong enough or positionally adept to play CB? Not sure what he is really mate. He might be a player i suspect who wont make it at a top Club sadly for him. Gabriel? Hes got courage. Seems his temperament is iffy though and that fatal for a defender isnt it. Always looks ill disciplined in the way he seems detached from the rest of the defence and looks to do his own thing. John Stones he certainly isnt. I'm not convinced to be honest.

  25. Tony Evans

    Nov 18, 2015, 14:39 #79318

    Hi Ron - good summary re Kocielny. I'm not a big fan of any of our centre halves and yet we have the best defensive record in the league, don't we. Somehow Kos and Per seem to form an effective partnership, although the term 'flying by the seat of their pants' comes to mind! Shame Chambers has gone backwards under Wenger - the poor lad has had his confidence shot to pieces being played out of position so much and so early in his Arsenal career, and as for Gabriel, he could be the no nonsense centre back we have been missing for ages but the jury is still out on that one.

  26. jeff wright

    Nov 18, 2015, 14:18 #79317

    A good summary of Kos's abilities there Ron I agree about the lack of dominating CB's being around these days . Kos is clearly not one of them. The game at West Brom looks like a win for us with as you say the Brummies struggling to score of course if we don't do so then it could end in a draw . Normally a point away is a good one anyway but with us having dropped two points at home to the spuds in our last game the three points are now required . City v Liverpool is interesting if the scousers result at the Bridge can be taken at face value . It probaly in reality flattered them with Chelsea clearly way below what they were last term. Incidental have you noticed that our record in local derbies this season is rather poor,lost at home to WHU ,won away to Palace ,lost away to struggling Chelsea ( good old Arsene) a fortunate 1-1 draw at home to the spuds. Not exactly title wining form this and again these results show that the current team is not as good as some are claiming that it is.

  27. Ron

    Nov 18, 2015, 13:26 #79314

    Sanchez wont play v Albion will he? he wasn't ever intended to play i wouldn't imagine. If they cant get a result of sorts at the Albion without him, its time to wrap up, pack the kit bags and go home. Albion cant score goals. If they could, they d be a decent side.

  28. Ron

    Nov 18, 2015, 13:06 #79313

    On Koschielny, im far from a fan either. Recall seeing his debut at Anfield back in 2011 and he was sent off with Joe Cole. His career with us since then has been very topsy turvy. Im not at all sure hes being used correctly. Hes not a big man with power, his aerial ability is clearly not particularly good, positionally its known he tends to drift and we ve seen it many times. He did it last night when he seemed oblivious to Rooney behind him and then his lack of height allowed the goal as we was never going to reach the header, though WR played well last night and would have troubled any defence. Kos has a good professional attitude though, he has some pace and his distrution isnt too bad. Hes a utility man really and ive always had the impression that hes good for a defensive middle man role or as full back cover? Hes certainly not a CH of any quality or stature, though he tries his darnedest to be so. The Alli goal last night summed him up. Once more its was clear that Kos doesnt like to be hit with the ball, either to body and especially the face. He turns instinctively when hes one on one with a forward who he knows is going to let fly. As such he removes himself from the game in an instant and the odds on scoring slant massively to the forward. We see it nearly every week in an Arsenal shirt sadly. To defend anywhere in a team and defender has to be prepared to put his body in the line of shots. To block is the defenders main tool, before heading, before attacking and is more important than being able to use the ball well. Kos doesnt have the basic elements in his game to defend. Big Merter to a degree, foils him and together they make a fist of defending v most teams. Unfortunately alone or together against better sides they are accidents waiting to happen and those accidents often do. In fairness to Wenger, dominant Centre backs are rarely seen these days and add to this the gung ho nature of PL football and full backs instructions to act as dual wingers, defenders and wing halves when needed, thus leaving CBs exposed and the recipe is there to leave defenders like Kos to look as hapless as he often does.

  29. Westlower

    Nov 18, 2015, 13:02 #79312

    As suspected Alexis played the full 90 minutes in Chile's 0-3 defeat to Uruguay. Add in the 17,500 journey and he should be in prime condition for WBA?

  30. jeff wright

    Nov 18, 2015, 12:43 #79311

    Gus was one of those squaddie type players typical of his era when near every player was an Englishman,Irishman or Scotsman. There were some Welsh ones as well! Must be a joke in there somewhere. Probably not PC these days though to tell it. The days of signing duff centre-backs however at AFC did not end with the modern-era of importing foreign players Wenger has made an art form out of importing some duffers. Kos who had another mare last night at Wembley against England being one of them . Mertesacker who shows all of the mobility of those statues outside the stadium is another in the long list of them. Keystone Kos has featured in numerous disasters in defence for us, although wisely he ducked out of the worst ever one in Europe in Munich recently, a real hero him! Keystone Kos's howler against Birmingham, a side about to be relegated, led to them beating us in the League Cup final. It was worse than Gus's one in the Luton final.I doubt that we will ever see a statue of Kos either put up.In fact there are already enough of them anyway it's starting to look like a terracotta army out side .A few more trophies in the cabinet inside would be a lot better.Anyway,good luck to Doncaster and long may you run.

  31. Arseneknewbest

    Nov 18, 2015, 12:17 #79308

    Colesyboy - Chris Whyte went onto greater things. He was a stalwart of that Leeds team that won the league in the early 90s. H Wilkinson got more out of him than GG it would seem. I think he's pretty highly regarded still by Leeds, leeds, leeds

  32. Badarse

    Nov 18, 2015, 12:10 #79307

    Thank you for a nice article 'Mister Perspective'-take heed some of you Arsenal fans amongst us! What a great post 24601 on Jimmy Dunne, case of well 'dunne' to that lad. I also liked the idea of your granddad singing the French Anthem in the garden-mind on the other side of the fence mbg often stands in his singing 'John Brown's Body...'. In a parallel universe jeff wright is manager of AFC-he is known affectionately as, 'old hankie head', and not so affectionately as, 'the old fraud'. In order to protect his investment he rests his star man Alexis for the NLD. AFC never recover from that early goal and lose 0-1, his side implode and the websites are alive with violent threats to his sandals, he never recovers from this and does a 'Gus'. Life, eh? How can you live without it?

  33. Leggsy

    Nov 18, 2015, 11:45 #79305

    Loved the article,we moan and whinge but sometimes forget how lucky we are to be Arsenal ! Gus as others have said had a lot of skill but no Big match temprement and that was born out in the League Cup final which we nearly came back to win courtesy of Martin "Zico" Hayes ! I've met him a few times and was a very lieable man who was proud to have played for us ,if not for long !

  34. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Nov 18, 2015, 11:45 #79304

    In slight defence of Gus; the team as a whole was slightly below par going into that League Cup Final and we only played well for about 15 minutes, time in which 2 goals went in, a header hit the bar, Hayes hit the post from about a yard out, and of course the missed penalty (which wasn't really a penalty, come on, admit it). Probably unfair to single Gus out cos most of the team were below average that day - crazy game and Luton had the players to take advantage of any mistakes. Fair to say his confidence never recovered after that though.

  35. goonercolesyboy

    Nov 18, 2015, 11:39 #79303

    Barnaby, what are you on about? I also remember Chris Whyte, who looked a lot like Huggy Bear from Starsky and Hutch, looked great then disappeared. What happened to him?

  36. Barnaby

    Nov 18, 2015, 11:20 #79302

    U think we know we get so many injuries, arsenal are the only club that doesn't give performance enhancing drugs, so we r trying to keep up with every other cheating club, which causes injuries lololololololol

  37. Captain Frank

    Nov 18, 2015, 11:20 #79301

    Nice blast from the past.. When Gus first broke into the team, he looked a very decent prospect. I remember one game he played at right-back at Old Trafford where he was outstanding, but like all young players, he suffered from inconsistent form and his confidence suffered irreparably (at least for Arsenal) after the Luton Town debacle at Wembley – a little bit of a “mental strength” problem perhaps. I watched him a couple of times whilst he was at Colchester and can’t say I remember him standing out, but it’s good to know he could still look a world-beater on his day, albeit against Donny! I have a feeling The Gooner sponsored Gus’s kit whilst he was at Colchester – can anyone confirm?

  38. Tony Evans

    Nov 18, 2015, 11:13 #79300

    Nice one Andy. Gus's nadir at Arsenal was undoubtedly the 1988 Luton League Cup final when he had an absolute nightmare. There are so many different levels in any sport and obviously Gus was a talented lad but just not talented enough for the top flight.

  39. Westlower

    Nov 18, 2015, 11:11 #79299

    Gus was unlucky in as much that he made a career changing error in a Wembley Cup Final against Luton. On another day he may have got away with his mis-kick but on that occasion it allowed Luton back into a game they looked like losing with 7 minutes left. Arguably he shouldn't have started that game as he was carrying a hernia & ankle injury (he had broken his ankle earlier in his Arsenal days). To have played 44 league games for Arsenal & 3 for England U21's shows he wasn't devoid of ability. Good to know he was appreciated at Doncaster Rovers. Andy, the guy who scored Luton's equaliser that day was a certain Danny Wilson, who played & managed your rivals Barnsley. I got to meet him socially when he was manager at Bristol City.

  40. Arseneknewbest

    Nov 18, 2015, 11:06 #79298

    Ian - Thanks, I thoroughly enjoyed reading that, and good luck with the rest of your season. After the Luton debacle in 87, Gus was difficult to admire. Curiously enough, I see he remained at the club til 1991 (which is proof, were it needed, that GG also hung onto sub-par defenders). Nevertheless, I joined a group of mates one pre-season on a schlepp across London to see him play for Colchester in a pre-season friendly against Brentford. (I think we went to bury him rather than praise him!). He didn't deliver on the pitch - naturally - and we amused ourselves by visiting the legendary four pubs at the corners of griffin park on as many laps as possible before the final whistle. Trip back to N London was arduous as I recall. Just googled Gus, and I was reminded of his birth place - he was a burgher of Totteringham. You couldn't make it up!

  41. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Nov 18, 2015, 10:13 #79297

    Nice to know that Gus could cut it, even if at a lower level. For every one who succeeds, there are many many more who don't. Like my old nan, god bless her, who used to say "if it was that easy, everyone'd be doing it."

  42. Ron

    Nov 18, 2015, 9:48 #79296

    What a lovely refreshing article. Thank you. For the vast majority who never play or have played football to any decent level, yet we re so free with our judgements about players, its not known how so very, very difficult, nigh impossible it is in fact to reach the top level of the game. Gus did it. Well played that man.