Arsenal Circular 110

Thoughts after the trip to Norwich



Arsenal Circular 110

Theo: Might be back next weekend


Ed’s Note – Graham Perry sends out his views on matters Arsenal to an email list and happy for us to reproduce them for a wider audience. What follows is the text from his email sent out yesterday…

Dear Fellow Gunners

It is always dangerous to comment on a poor performance so soon after the final whistle.
There is huge disappointment and the temptation is to focus on the failings, the mistakes and the lapses.
So this is just the time for balance and objectivity – not easy because frustration and even anger interferes with clear thinking.
It emphasises the problem facing every manager who is called upon to face the microphone and the media – they have to absorb the pain and the inner feelings and satisfy their responsibilities to the football public and be calm and low key when they might have inner rage and want to let rip.

So some comments;-
We were ahead – it was a good goal – albeit Ruddy contributed with his error but Ozil still had to convert the chance and he did it with considerable skill.
We were on top – passing the ball confidently even though we were not making too many clear chances.
Now Koscielny has already gone off – and we start talking yet again about our terrible injury record but Gabriel appeared to have slotted in. But then again two defensive errors and it is 1-1.
Why did City have time to play the ball into the area and why did Gabriel fail to deal with the situation?
And it could have been 2-1 down and this was more worrying because Hoolahan was unmarked and should have done better. He let us off the hook.
But – and I am no coach at all – when there is a cross from the right you have to sniff danger and worry about the overlap on the left.
Why did he have the chance? – Why was he unchallenged? Was it Cazorla who did not track back? If it was why did it happen?

Half time comes and the mood has changed. Norwich are up. We are down
It is always interesting to know how Wenger tries to re-instill confidence and collective self-belief.

The second half was difficult for us – we worked hard – we were committed but Norwich grew in confidence.
We finished on the front foot – we were making crosses but the threat was not there – we did look jaded.
Fair’s fair the initiative was with Norwich and Cech was called upon to make a great save but let’s keep it in proportion – there are injuries – players are being over-played and risking injuries – three by all accounts with Koscielny, Sanchez and Cazorla all now vulnerable. The worry - we do not have enough in the locker.

The good news – we are having a bad run but we are only two points off the top – confidence was high after Dynamo Zagreb but it will be low after Sunday.
Thankfully there is a week to recover – Ramsey is back, the Ox did well and Walcott may be ready.
Confidence comes slowly and goes quickly as Wenger has said.
It is the same for us – we oscillate – experiencing the highs and the lows.
I know some want to let rip at Wenger – feel he is stubborn, over the hill, limited in his thinking, low horizons.
Others, like myself, want to avoid knee-jerk reactions – resist the temptation to jump on the bandwagon, stand by him.
Every setback has his critics on the front foot. Every victory has his supporters giving him praise.
Each of us has to decide for ourselves.
It is a marathon and not a sprint – there will be many twists and turns to come.

We may find the injury toll is too much for us and with Allardyce stoking up Sunderland we face a real challenge next Saturday.
But that is football – we could all go off and play bowls and be calm and safe and relaxed.
But we like to live a little dangerously.


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  1. Graham Perry

    Dec 07, 2015, 8:39 #80332

    RON - Did NC players shrug off challenges from AFC. Welcome views from other readers but I have never viewed us as powder puff. Theo may be light on the tough stuff though he stands up to direct tackles.
    ARSENENEWBEST - Stylistic Criticism – thanks for your comments. I like to mix the short with the long. It gives the reader a chance to catch up. Too many lengthy sentences makes it read like a university essay. One who gets away with that style is Hugh McIlvaney in the S Times. Mind you he was very difficult to referee some years ago when I did occasional Chelsea Casual matches. Mouth? Unbelievable. Keep your comments coming – very welcome.
    JEFF WRIGHT - Flamini and Arteta and Mertesacker and your comments about Wenger offering contracts not on the basis of ability but simply personal loyalty to Wenger. We are second in the Premier after a bad run and lots of injuries. He has won titles and Cups – he knows what is needed to win. He is incorruptible on whatever level you want to choose. I am not in love with him. I do not like his moans from the touchline and although better now than in the past I still think he has lacked respect to his opponents. Your second point deserves more attention and is whispered in other places – is he a law unto himself? Has he been there too long? Does he intimidate the Board and get his way? Is he accountable to the Board or have they become Yes Men. I don’t think it is this. I just think Arsenal are different. They like stability and continuity believing that delivers more success than chopping and changing the manager. A good friend who has been a high powered boardroom man says that Wenger would have gone by now if it was the City. But soccer is not the City. Football is quite different and Wenger has a track record. It has been a tremendous achievement to stay in the top four – if not the top two while paying for the new Stadium. The future is so bright because Wenger kept the standards of football whilst being forced to see his best players. Our finances looking ahead are so secure.
    BARD - Not sure if you are suggesting that there was a 14 minute sexual indulgence but you are right when you say things need to be seen in perspective and not in microscope. Soccer that is.
    MBG - Should our “idiot manager” have bought? There is an optimum size for a squad – make it too big and the youth team will never attract - no more Wilshere’s or Bellerin’s or Coquelins. They will take their chances elsewhere. Wenger prefers to have youth coming through and purchase from outside. Where you might have point is in asking with our injury record does it mean we have to have a larger than average squad. And a settled squad is better than an ever changing squad. Sometimes every organisation can get “samey” and “comfortable” and you need to rough things up and create challenges and a dose of instability can work but the squad and the internal dynamics are so important. I am sure this occupies much of Wenger’s thinking.
    ALSACE - About Ramsey you say “He is still about the only player in the squad that has any real idea what Arsenal means anymore”. As I type I am listening to Jason Burt of the Daily Telegraph saying injuries apart they would well ahead at the top of the League. How do you reconcile the two views. Your views would make sense if were 10th but 2nd??
    RON - If Wenger’s decisions were led by what supporters said neither Song nor Coquelin would ever have had time to develop into the top players they became. Flamini knows Arsenal – remember how he snuffed out Beckham in the Real Madrid semi-finals in 2006. Thatcher once said “Every Prime Minister needs a Willy”. Every manager needs a Flamini. He and Arteta and Roscicky are probably in their last season but as squad players that have helped to get us to where we are. There will be signings and younger players will come to the fore. The next few years are going to be so exciting. Sorry I have a different view from you but that is football – we are so lucky to be able to exchange views like this.
    NICK - The injuries remains a mystery. Yes a mystery. I have read all the media and not one expert has come up with an explanation. Not one. Yes maybe in relation to Sanchez Wenger, on reflection, should have said “I don’t mind how much you want to play – you ain’t. End of story”. But the rest – no one seems to know how or why. Comments welcome. No sounding off – explanations for our injury list please.
    SNOWBIGGE - Apart from signing Cech and the tactics at home to Bayern M you say “the rest of his decisions have been the usual garbage” - do you really believe that? Are these the kind of things you feel comfortable saying? “The Club could do so much better” Really? Who do you have in mind. Let’s open up the discussion. You are the Board. You are running a multi-million pound basis. Your present manager is “garbage” although he is second in the League after dropping seven points in the previous three games. Now recruit a replacement. My position is clear. I want Guardiola but only when Arsene decides to move on probably at the end of his current contract.

  2. mbg

    Dec 02, 2015, 14:48 #80111

    Saturday's team will virtually pick itself, we're saved.

  3. jjetplane

    Dec 02, 2015, 12:09 #80102

    Desmond Dekker 'why oh why oh why oh why/I feel like I wanna die ....' Speaking of The Israelites 'get up in the morning/posting for Arsene/so that every seat will sell/ohhh ohhhh the AKBs .....'

  4. Westlower

    Dec 02, 2015, 9:38 #80095

    Saturdays team will virtually pick itself with the injury count at 10, Sunderland have Defoe & Larsson out. Cech, Bellerin, BFG, Gabriel, Monreal, Ramsey, Flamini (Chambers), Campbell. Giroud, Ozil, Ox. Correct score odds; 1-0 @ 7/1, 0-0 @16/1 (20/1 with Skybet).

  5. Hi Berry

    Dec 02, 2015, 8:26 #80093

    Just back from the doctors...my knees are shot to pieces and his advice was to take up trampolining and stop watching Arsenal.

  6. John F

    Dec 02, 2015, 8:24 #80091

    FJ I hope you are going to watch this is Tottenham on BBC 2 tonight 9pm.It is going to do wonders for the property prices around there.I am hoping it will give me some understanding of your wonderful peaceful supporters and the nice area they live in.

  7. Moscow Gooner

    Dec 02, 2015, 5:37 #80090

    'Others like myself want to avoid knee jerk reactions....' Chelsea sacking Mourinho would be a 'knee jerk reaction'; Arsenal removing AW would be 5 or 6 seasons too late. But nothing will or should happen until the end of the season: a credible, sustained, challenge for the title would merit giving the man a while longer.

  8. mbg

    Dec 02, 2015, 0:49 #80089

    Some fantastic posts on here tonight, as good as seen for a while, top of the range, you know who you all are, is it any wonder the AKB wengerites went into hiding.

  9. mbg

    Dec 02, 2015, 0:32 #80088

    Hiccup, nice one, lets hope Mike and Kevin, don't have a kneejerk reaction and decide to change their 10 minute posting rule to 20 minutes to give every one time to think clearly and avoid a kneejerk reaction, my God absorbing the reaction of some wengerites for 10 minutes is long enough, there's only so long one can laugh before having a kneejerk reaction and passing out.

  10. mbg

    Dec 01, 2015, 23:53 #80087

    jw, 84770, yes, and another favourite that has just emerged this season, for some reason, (especially with relegation fodder)this is/will be a tricky one, i'd take a draw now. Pathetic, You couldn't make it up.

  11. John F

    Dec 01, 2015, 22:10 #80086

    Hi Ron it does not say but it is us,Chelsea and Real Madrid who are allegedly in trouble but this report did come from a Spanish newspaper based in Barcelona so a pinch of salt may be needed.Metro and Star are just rehashing it.

  12. Ron

    Dec 01, 2015, 21:59 #80085

    John F - So funny mate. Whove they broke the rules over though allegedly ? Yr right though. They ll probably rock for England in the 'Diamond Club'.

  13. John F

    Dec 01, 2015, 21:38 #80084

    If the Spanish press are right and Arsenal will have a transfer ban imposed after breaking the rules on signing young players I wonder how the board and Wenger will react.My guess in public they will be moaning and groaning at the injustice of the decision but in privacy of the boardroom they will be popping the champagne corks ,putting on party hats and doing the macerena.Stan might even throw his wig in the air.

  14. Hiccup

    Dec 01, 2015, 21:06 #80083

    mbg, you may be right about the akb's, but if you can wait until Thursday, I'll give you a response after I've gathered my thoughts. I think now is the right time we should be talking about the summer transfer window. After all the knee jerk outcrying that we hadn't sufficiently strengthened, I think we'll all agree we over reacted at the time, and in the cold day of light, things look better now than we first made out to be.

  15. Ron

    Dec 01, 2015, 20:35 #80082

    Ha ha . Hiccup lad. Ive just banged and bruised my knee on this desk by knee jerking. Bloody well hurts. I could be out till February now cos of you mate. Hi Alsace. Yes, Mattys goal v Spurs was brilliant. People disgaree with me but do you recall that time in 05 when he played at Left back for a quite a while. I thought did great and missed his calling by insisting on midfield as his preferred position. He s right footed but i recall a few games where he was excellent. I read some where a few yrs back MF doesnt believe in transfer fees. Its ever likely Webster has kept faith with him. I dnt dislike Matty, quite the opposite, but hes always been asked to do the full of extent of a job that alone hes not equipped to do (like many of Wengers players this last decade) Not his fault of course.

  16. Hiccup

    Dec 01, 2015, 20:24 #80081

    Ron, a knee jerk reaction to my post if ever there was one! Go back, re read, re digest, and then come back when you have understood it! By the way, this is not a knee jerk reply to your response! It is dangerous to comment on here straight after a post has been made, so I have had ample time to calm myself down. In fact, there's a whole lotta knee jerking going on in here tonight. If everyone followed the 48 hour guideline, we'd have a lot less knee jerking going around!

  17. Snowbiggee

    Dec 01, 2015, 19:54 #80080

    Arsenal will not win the league because the manager makes too many mistakes. He's done two things well this season - buy Cech and get the tactics right against Bayern at home. The rest of his decisions have been the usual garbage. The club could do so much better.

  18. mbg

    Dec 01, 2015, 19:21 #80078

    Hiccup, it looks like they've gone into lock down again, has something happened that we're not aware off, is news about to break and they've all been recalled to central command? or is there a fault with them?

  19. jeff wright

    Dec 01, 2015, 18:47 #80077

    As you said earlier Alsace it is just as well that we do have Flam with the well past it all but firm hard on fav of Arsene,Arteta lasting all of 5 minutes when called on. Again though this is not down to Wenger left to hisown devices we would have had just Arteta to cover le Coq who himself is only with us down to Arteta having got injured last season! If Wenger possessed any self awareness, other than money related , he would feel embarrassed by his own ineptitude but as we witnessed again with the Sanchez injury he does not have any when it comes to holding his hands up to having made costly mistakes that with more foresight could have been avoided .Wenger gets paid 8m a year to produce foresight anyone can come up with hindsight on anything.You have to ask why if Wenger knew, and he says he that did, that Sanchez has been troubled by a tight hamstring for awhile that he kept him on against lowly Zagreb midweek for 20 minutes after we were 3 nil up. By the way Graham was asking why by some after the game a 'knee-jerk reaction' or just common sense>? Answers please to Arsene Wenger at Ivory Towers la la land. Anyone who receives an answer wins a prize of the collected posts of Badarse . Normal conditions apply.

  20. mbg

    Dec 01, 2015, 18:45 #80076

    Hiccup, it's all to do with the kneejerk reaction you see, the longer you wait the smaller the reaction, then the reaction turns into forgetting, then the next reaction has it been swept under the carpet, then the next one (and it's certainly not kneejerk) and the biggest reason for waiting and avoiding kneejerk reactions is forgiveness, (even after all this time) to their messiah for yet another woeful display of his failings and embarrassment

  21. jeff wright

    Dec 01, 2015, 18:15 #80074

    A good analogy there Ron it's all a bit weird really this AKB worship of Wenger .Some of them are probably normal sane people in everyday life but there is no denying that Wenger has attracted some weirdos to his cause. When he goes will they disappear as well or spend their time having digs at the new manager is the question. It is not easy for anyone with an obsession that someone knows best and can never do wrong to change this attitude .Perhaps mass counselling will be required to help these people who are afflicted with Arsenemania. As time goes by though there are becoming less of them than what there once were . Fat Sam the old ally of Sir Ferguson will be trying his best to add a few more disgruntled ones to the ever growing band of Wenger out supporters . We can expect a bus parking toure de force attempt from the Black Cats with route one hoofing the ball out of defence, after Ozil has been dispossessed and ended up on his arse again, to the lurking De Foe to latch on to so to outpace plodding Per in the race goal-wards... Just as well then that Arsene is brilliant at dealing with this anti-football nonsense !Actually our home form is not so good again this term with just 8 goals in the league scored and only 3 wins. So based on this and the current form and injury scenario,confidence,etc,next weeks tete a tete in Athens weighing on Wenger's and the players minds as well ,I can see this being a rather tense and tetchy game .Have we got the ref sorted out because we don't want another biased one that petitions have to be set up to have him removed from officiating our games in the future if things do go awry.This now days is more likely to be so than not.

  22. Alsace

    Dec 01, 2015, 18:06 #80073

    It was a shame that he left us but he won something by doing so. Arthur Webster wouldn't give him a new contract in 2005 and when he was offered one when he was about to have a Bosman he told OGL to get lost. I don't blame him for that in the same way as I don't blame RVP or Cesc. You can only sit around and take so much emperors new clothes bull**** from Webster. You are absolutely right about one thing though. Of course Flanimal should have been replaced by now. OGL hasn't got the brains to see it or do it. As to Flam being limited, yes, that's why he is the boy who stops others playing, but did you see his goals against Spurs? There is ability there as well. One of my all time favourites, with Wright and Dennis, Nigel W, Freddie, Cesc and Sanchez.

  23. Ron

    Dec 01, 2015, 17:26 #80070

    Jeff - this 'knee jerk' issue brings to mind the old fallacy of the drunken man not meaning what he said as' he was drunk when he said it' notion. Of course, he meant it and saw it clearly. His drunkenness allowed him to say it as he saw it without inhibition. The delivery of the message may have been slurred but the message itself is often spot on correct, albeit with its edginess and ego rattling honesty. The sad part is when the soak is later sober and reminded of his view, he defensively retracts and says he didnt mean it and to take no notice, when deep down hes still of the same view.

  24. Bard

    Dec 01, 2015, 17:26 #80069

    There is too much doom and gloom. Once our injured players come back around Feb, we will be able to put together a terrific run and make 4th place our own. I am looking forward to thurs night Europa league as Wed night is my badminton evening. Very good article in the Guardian by Barney Ronay about Arsenal's injury issues. Ron love the crisis to cusp in one game idea.

  25. jeff wright

    Dec 01, 2015, 17:05 #80068

    I just love the way the AKB's always claim after yet another 'shock' result that any criticism is just a' knee jerk reaction'. You couldn't make it up. A knee jerk reaction is a reaction made immediately after some event that does not take account of all circumstances. As others have pointed out this hardly applies to the reactions of Arsene's critics following on Sunday's shambles - in fact the only jerks involved in all of this malarkey are all AKB's who are desperately trying to make a leather jacket out of a cow's arsehole.

  26. Ron

    Dec 01, 2015, 16:53 #80066

    Hiccup lad - you know as well as most of us do that a performance of crap can become a cusp in less than 2 days and that a loss or a draw in reality can become a moral win, akin even to an 'actual' win, once unfairness, hard pitches, injuries, net spend , fatigue, bent refs, blind linesman, bad weather, gruelling flights from Germany, fixture list congestion, wrong kits, ill fitting snoods and gloves, odious other teams Coach and 'niggly' fouls are all factored in to decimate AFC s opponents winning scores this last decade. Surely you've not forgotten all of this? Of course 2 days is an eternity in 'lets protect Wenger till we re green in the gills' speak, however extreme and irrational it might be. I'm surprised at you indeed.

  27. Hiccup

    Dec 01, 2015, 16:50 #80065

    jj, it is akb policy to go in to media lockdown after such games for 48 hours. I'm all for this. In fact, I'd be happy for them to extend it to 48 months. The disappointing thing is that even after 2 days offline, they come back with the same crap. Why not spout their crap on full time to give much needed light relief?

  28. Nick

    Dec 01, 2015, 16:44 #80064

    All that would hold true were it the first, second.or even third time we have seen our team produce performance's like that , if it were the first, second or third season in a row where we had been blighted by injuries to key players and had to overplay other key players untill inevitably they get injured too, but it ISN'T, the first, second or.third time or even the fourth ,, its been happening EVERY season for the past ten years ! At least so far we havnt had.our arses handed to.us, oh.wait, didn't we get thumped by the mighty Sheffield Wednesday? And savaged by Bayern Munich? Its NOT a knee jerk reaction when your reacting to something that happens on a regular basis !!

  29. jjetplane

    Dec 01, 2015, 16:17 #80062

    Game set and match HICCUP ... No comments on the CL until Friday evening. looking towards a match can now comr after the game in question. Crafty!

  30. Hiccup

    Dec 01, 2015, 16:05 #80061

    Don't know what the 'danger' is in commenting on a poor performance so soon after the final whistle? As you say, it was a poor performance, so two days later does it transgress in to a good performance? No. It's still a poor performance by all accounts. You've said nothing different to how I saw the game 2 minutes after the full time whistle. We went ahead with a goalkeeping mistake. They equalised , and should have gone ahead. We looked out of sorts. Nothing new added on this article. If this is the right approach, then does the same apply after a good performance? Let's all give it two days instead of knee jerking in to thinking this team is capable of beating bottom half teams.

  31. Ron

    Dec 01, 2015, 14:43 #80060

    Flamini - i never did quite get the attraction of him, even in his younger days. He tries hard. Its always ended there with Matty. He s just been Wenger's earlier Cocqelin i.e. conveniently available at no cost to call on followed by a bit of limited use being proven. Credit due to MF though, hes got more heart and desire, Sanchez aside, than the rest of that squad put together.

  32. Roy

    Dec 01, 2015, 14:34 #80059

    Graham, I think mbg has got you there. Knee jerk reactions ? After a decade ? I would call that patronising, except I can see you're not meaning to be.

  33. jeff wright

    Dec 01, 2015, 14:32 #80058

    Alsace,I take your point about the lack of cover in midfield for le Coq, regarding Flam,but I can't forget how he walked out on us when it suited him and only returned when thought it was in his own interests to do so. The real problem here is Wenger not buying a replacement for Arteta last summer ,when there were players available .Once again Wenger missed the bus and everyone knows now how desperate he now is due to doing so .Wenger won't pay over the odds for players, but this is a self induced problem that he so often brings upon himself with his laissez faire approach to his management .

  34. Alsace

    Dec 01, 2015, 14:16 #80055

    Jeffrey - whilst I absolutely love your commitment to the removal of OGL, I have to stand up for Flamini. He already has lots of wedge. The only reason why he came back in my view was because OGL was stinking the place out and we needed a DM. So he turned up asking to train with the squad and when, come the 11th hour on transfer deadline day, OGL had bought no one, he was able to insert himself into our midfield. Thank goodness he did. The North London Derby was transformed by Ramsey's early injury and his introduction. He is still about the only player in the squad that has any real idea what Arsenal means anymore. So he may be old, and a bit past it and running out of puff, but he is uninjured and the only DM asset that we are left with. Your point about long term contracts for deadbeats is well made, just not with the example you have chosen. Flanimal is here to try and clear up Wenger's mess. The sort of mess where OGL would have offloaded him without replacing him with a spare DM. Arteta is the example to make your point. A danger to himself and to others.

  35. jjetplane

    Dec 01, 2015, 14:09 #80054

    Perhaps to build up Theo's confidence before he injures himself again, he could just fill in for post match mic duties and of course someone has to attend all those hospital beds during the pantomime season. Is he any good on the guitar? On another note how long does it take say JAck to go on official sick leave and does he then have to claim? .... Trying to work out if the above is the lost transcripts of the greatest sportswriter in the history of whatever or just a few jumbled thoughts one produces whilst on the 'job' ...... Answers on recycled .... Lovely stuff BARD and another one BONOBO will read again and again just hoping for some comegy gold to rub off .... not how it works.

  36. mbg

    Dec 01, 2015, 13:55 #80053

    Platitude Problem, and some have wider ones that others.

  37. mbg

    Dec 01, 2015, 13:45 #80052

    Peter Wain, the accompanying caption says it all, wally might be back next weekend, that makes everything alright then, hurray we're saved. You couldn't make it up.

  38. jeff wright

    Dec 01, 2015, 13:43 #80051

    mbg,Wenger has turned more average men into millionaires than Chris Tarrant has. It must have been a big shock to many AKB's Sunday's result because Problem Boy has emerged from under his stone again ... it's theirs Problem not, "there's " ,with no apostrophe required. Don't be a prat all of your life ,try having a day off .

  39. jeff wright

    Dec 01, 2015, 13:29 #80050

    Graham, you are right to say that "... this is just the time for balance and objectivity." Unfortunately there is none of this in your article.

  40. Platitude Problem

    Dec 01, 2015, 13:29 #80049

    Opinions are like arseholes. We've all got one, but some feel the need to share there's with a wider audience

  41. mbg

    Dec 01, 2015, 13:24 #80048

    jw, dead right where else would they get it, that's the only reason they're so loyal to TOF. Remember all the dead wood we had drifting about 4-5 years ago ? and the biggest rotten plank of them all bendy stinking the place out on a massive contract refusing to budge thanks to wenger, we eventually got rid of them all, but now we're back to square one with dead wood floating and lying all over the place, and yes the biggest piece of dead wood of them all is still here and still to blame.

  42. Peter Wain

    Dec 01, 2015, 13:16 #80047

    yes it was a poor performance as we were hanging on for a point when if we want to win the pl it is a game we needed to win. But the poor squad we have means our best players are not rested so are likely to get injured and the idiot manager does not buy anybody. No doubt in January we will be linked to all and sundry but buy no one as we will have the injured players coming back and it will be like a new player etc etc. Our pl challenge will fade, no fa cup glory this year and then in May OGL will say we do not really need much and are only interested in top top quality. Cue for another dismal performance in the transfer market. You cannot make this up- Wenger out now

  43. mbg

    Dec 01, 2015, 13:11 #80046

    I don't see how it is Graham, in fact I think it's the best time to comment when feelings are running high when fans can speak their mind (just like they can on the Online Gooner and can't on other excuses for Arsenal blogs) can say exactly what they think, and tell it exactly like it is when still freshly in the memory, instead of waiting days to calm down in the hope of thinking clearly, and avoid knee jerk reactions (even though they're no knee jerk reactions it's been happening for nine/ten years now? not exactly knee jerk reactions) having forgotten things that went on, (conveniently or not)it's because fans give themselves time to calm down and wait a few days (or longer)and resist the temptation to jump on the band wagon and support him, and have no kneejerk reactions for nine years now we're in this bloody mess.

  44. Bard

    Dec 01, 2015, 12:54 #80044

    Graham ; my thoughts exactly. There is too much knee jerking and twerking after a poor performance. We have to analyse things more deeply. I have an inside view of Sundays failings. I am a qualified pilot and had the pleasure of flying the boys up to Norwich. Thats where to the good news ends. Helen, you may remember left me and became a security consultant. As chance would have it she was assigned to our flight and insisted on the players being searched before and after take off. She is nothing if not thorough, her body searches were nothing short of orgasmic. The boss missed it all. He fell asleep with a copy of Tactics for Dummies Vol 1 on his lap. They enjoyed it so much that they insisted the plane take a detour via Oslo so Helen could get to grips with all the security issues. We arrive in Norwich with the players shagged out so to speak. You can bang on about injuries and refereeing errors but sometimes life conspires to defeat you in the most bizarre circumstances .

  45. jeff wright

    Dec 01, 2015, 12:44 #80043

    Colesyboy ,the deadwood is never going to leave while Wenger keeps giving them long contracts on big bucks .I used the Americanism there in the spirit of all things Silent Stanley at AFC these days. Wenger was unable to offload Flim Flam in the summer because he refused to go back to Italy, I can't blame him for that I mean why would he want to give up a cushy comfy zone life in London for the more demanding one of Seria A and all that goes with it. Due to Wenger in one of his desperation moments and there are lots of them days giving Flam a long contract although he was past his best,his best was not that great anyway, he could not be forced to leave.This is not an unusual case with Wenger he hands out contracts to players such as Arteta who are also obviously well passed it without regard to their abilities but based on personal loyalty to himself. Mertesacker is another one. This is what happens when you get someone like Wenger in complete control at a club and where he is answerable to no one but himself. The fact is as we all know the so called 'board ' are just Stan's stooges and along with the syrup wearing porno tashed money grabber know nothing at all about football. You just know that these 'board meetings' that they hold would only be money related and as long as it keeps pouring in Stan is happy,and if he is happy,guess what,so are the stooges! You couldn't make it up.

  46. Arseneknewbest

    Dec 01, 2015, 12:08 #80040

    Graham - Thanks. If I may offer one small stylistic criticism. One reads your bulletins and has the sense that they're being dictated to someone while you're running on a treadmill. Short, staccato sentences and occasionally hollow cliches, such as the dreaded "It's a marathon not a sprint" (which was a favourite excuse of GG back in the day) or "But that is football". It sometimes sounds a bit like a soliloquy by Ron Manager from the Fast Show. I will concede that you're braver/more devoted than me for writing copy for this esteemed organ, but it might be worth checking sometimes to see if what you're putting down is actually original.

  47. Ron

    Dec 01, 2015, 12:06 #80039

    A draw was a fair result. NC deserved a share of the spoils. AFC weren't so bad. They're far from a great side and a hard working committed and disciplined side will always stand a chance of beating them. What was noteworthy was how often the NC players shrugged us off in the challenges. A long standing issue for AFC for years.

  48. goonercolesyboy

    Dec 01, 2015, 11:34 #80038

    Season ticket holders renewing their tickets or new ones paying has got absolutely nothing to do with the current manager staying or going. The other revenues now make a bigger difference to the players we can afford to buy and the wages afforded. Our agent fees are the fourth highest with Liverpool at the top. So efforts are being made to add players, but some have to leave before they can come in to the squad.

  49. Red Member

    Dec 01, 2015, 10:27 #80035

    when will season ticket holders realise that they are the problem holding this club back. If people had not renewed 2 years ago then Wenger would not have been given a contract extension and this ludicrous cycle of despair might have been ended. As things stand nothing is changing, yet the club still have the audacity to charge the highest prices in the Premier League