#FlashbackFriday - Liverpool Away: Part Two

A look back at Arsenal’s visits to Anfield over the years continues…



#FlashbackFriday - Liverpool Away: Part Two

Flowers for the Anfield crowd before the title decider in 1989


Aside from Liverpool’s glorious treble in 1984, that same year Alan Bleasdale of ‘Boys from the Blackstuff’ fame would attempt to follow up his success with a Channel 4 series called ‘Scully’, which had a premise vaguely similar to Ken Loach’s ‘Looking for Eric’ only involving Liverpool stars such as Kenny Dalglish (and a lead actor pushing thirty playing a school pupil!). The show also co-starred Liverpool-born new wave star Elvis Costello who also performed the theme tune. However in 1984/85, Liverpool’s dominance would be rocked by the emergence of a new title rival across town and in October Everton took all three points at Anfield.

After just two wins out of eleven, Liverpool slipped as low as seventeenth, though managed to put a run together in the second half of the season defeating Arsenal 0-3 at Anfield in February with goals from Ian Rush, Phil Neal and Ronnie Whelan. Liverpool finished the season as runners up though thirteen points behind Champions Everton, though ended the season trophy-less for the first time since 1971/72 - however that statistic would be far from the biggest tragedy that season. As a result of the Heysel tragedy, English Football’s stock fell as low as it had ever gone and was partly the reason why the game disappeared from the TV screens for the first half of the 1985/86 season.

On the opening day of the season, Arsenal visited Anfield, where the Sydney Morning Herald would allege that a memorial service for those who died at Heysel would be marred by rival supporters, whose chanting would drown out the service. Goals from Steve Nicol and Ronnie Whelan inflicted a 0-2 defeat on the Gunners. At the start of November, though Liverpool were sitting second in the League they were as much as ten points behind rivals Man Utd who had got off to a flying start unbeaten for the first fifteen games.

The two sides would meet in the League Cup in Late November at Anfield – a game which many believed footage of which was lost to the TV black out. Liverpool triumphed 2-1 on the night with a superb goal from Jan Molby which luckily had been captured for posterity by private video. By the time of Man Utd’s next visit to Anfield in the League in February they had been pegged back after losing six games with Liverpool just two points behind. Unfortunately, Man Utd were welcomed by the Liverpool fans with CS Gas on arrival at Anfield. Unfortunately for football, the TV cameras had returned by February and the matter was given full exposure live on Match of the Day. The match itself ended in a 1-1 draw.

Meanwhile, Liverpool’s hopes of a treble ended after losing their League Cup Semi Final to QPR on aggregate, conceding two own goals at Anfield in the second leg. From early March however, in the League Liverpool went on an astounding run gaining thirty four points out of thirty six in their final twelve games, sealing the title on the final Saturday with a 1-0 win over Chelsea away at Stamford Bridge. A week later Liverpool sealed the double with a 3-1 win over Everton, this here is the post-match coverage with an interview with two-goal hero Ian Rush, as well as an early punditry outing for Andy Gray. The other great punditry giant of the nineties – Liverpool’s double winning captain Alan Hansen – would be interviewed here by Bob Wilson on Football Focus about that season’s exploits.

Three games into the 1986/87 season and a new era at Highbury under George Graham, Arsenal’s inability to get a result at Anfield still continued as Liverpool inflicted a 1-2 defeat on Arsenal with goals from Jan Molby and Ian Rush, while Tony Adams would be on target for Arsenal. This season however would be Liverpool’s second trophy-less term in three years, courtesy of George Graham winning his first trophy for Arsenal in April 1987 by defeating Liverpool 2-1 in the final at Wembley (with the match in its entirety shown here. The Liverpool board therefore allowed Kenny Dalglish a spending spree to rebuild Liverpool’s attack, signing Peter Beardsley, John Barnes, John Aldridge and Ray Houghton, which left even quality players such as Craig Johnston, Jan Molby and Kenny Dalglish himself (still registered as a player) without a place in the side throughout most of 1987/88.

By the time of Arsenal’s visit to Anfield in mid-January 1988, Liverpool had been twenty three games unbeaten and fifteen points clear of second place Nottingham Forest. The Merseysiders took all three points in a 0-2 defeat for Arsenal with goals from John Aldridge and Peter Beardsley. Liverpool were closing in on Leeds Utd’s fourteen year record of twenty nine games unbeaten from the start of the season, which had been equalled with a 1-1 draw away at Derby in mid-march, the thirtieth match however was covered live on ITV away at Goodison Park against rivals Everton who inflicted Liverpool’s first defeat of the season courtesy of a goal from Wayne Clarke – who ironically was younger brother of former Leeds marksman Alan (incidentally, the joint record stood until 2003/04 when surpassed by Arsenal’s ‘invincibles’, who’ll obviously hold that record until the unlikely event of an extension of a Premiership season beyond thirty eight games).

Liverpool lost a second league game that year to Nottingham Forest away two weeks later, though in the home fixture between the two sides eleven days later, Liverpool hammered fifth placed Forest 5-0 at Anfield. The Reds sealed their seventeenth title in 1987/88 and were on course for the double, meeting Wimbledon in the final – who had only been in the Football League since the same year as Liverpool’s first European Cup in 1977. Despite being red hot favourites, the Reds crashed to a 0-1 defeat masterminded by the old Arsenal combo of former coach Don Howe and former player Bobby Gould - covered by BT Sport’s acclaimed documentary ‘The Crazy Gang’.

Liverpool were most people’s favourites to retain their title at the start of the 1988/89 season after recapturing Ian Rush from Juventus, however early on lost captain Alan Hansen to injury, goalkeeper Bruce Grobbelaar to Meningitis and had Jan Molby imprisoned for a drink driving offence. Arsenal met Liverpool at Anfield in the third round of the League Cup at the start of November, which ended in a 1-1 draw with a superb David Rocastle strike cancelling out an opener from John Barnes. A week later, a crowd of 54,029 (the last ever crowd at Highbury to exceed 50,000) saw the replay, which ended 0-0. Two weeks on, the two sides played out the second replay at Villa Park, where Arsenal took the lead through a Paul Merson goal. However goals from Steve McMahon and John Aldridge inflicted a 1-2 defeat on Arsenal.

Liverpool however were underwhelming in the League during the first half of 1988/89, suffering a 0-1 home defeat to Norwich and a 1-3 defeat to Alex Ferguson’s Man United (in the era before those words actually stoked fear into anyone) on New Years’ Day. By the end of February, Liverpool fell nineteen points behind Arsenal (albeit Liverpool’s involvement in the FA Cup meant they had four games in hand). By the start of April, a 1-0 win over surprise title challengers Norwich put Liverpool two points behind Arsenal on equal games and ahead of Liverpool’s Semi-Final clash with Nottingham Forest had even took the top spot on goal difference after beating Millwall 2-1 at the Den.

Arsenal were due to meet Liverpool in the League at Anfield eight days after the Semi Final, the events at Hillsborough however changed not only the dynamics of the season but the future course of the football industry as a whole. This here is real time footage of the short duration of the game at Hillsborough (which I can appreciate may be distressing viewing for many, but is a must-see when you consider what’s was said on the matter of Hillsborough in its aftermath). What is striking from this footage is that if you look behind the goal at the Leppings Lane end, it’s clearly visible to the naked eye how the pens to the right hand side show far more space in comparison to the crush developing in the pens on the right, thus highlighting how poor crowd control on the day had obviously been.

@06.18 came what has subsequently become known as the ‘miracle of Hillsborough’ after a Peter Beardsley strike hit the bar – which had it gone in could have caused a crowd surge which might have brought even more fatalities than there actually were. Mercifully, the game is halted at six minutes and the RTE footage of the incident continues from here - two things of note are the visible absence of any Liverpool fans urinating on police, pick-pocketing dead victims and preventing brave PCs giving the kiss of life - as per the Sun Newspaper’s infamous headline under the banner of ‘the truth’, as well as how long the first ambulance takes to appear on the scene (its believed that as many as half of the fatalities that occurred that day could have been avoided had the response of the emergency services been more prompt.

There’s also often been a tendency to draw a correlation between Heysel and Hillsborough because both involved Liverpool fans, however the common denominator between the two is really how big games were policed in the 1980s – of which Liverpool were involved in many during that period. The fact of the matter is that another disaster at Hillsborough at the start of the decade was narrowly avoided involving Spurs fans in their Semi against Wolves in 1981 - One Tottenham fan’s account of events that day doesn’t sound entirely dissimilar from what was experienced by Liverpool fans eight years on, which - coupled with the fact that at the time of the disaster, Hillsborough had no safety certificate whatsoever - kind of underlines the fact that the events of that day really could have involved any set of football fans during the 1980s.

Two other pieces which shed further light on events that day are Jimmy McGovern’s TV Docu-Drama from 1996 and Panorama’s ‘How They Buried the Truth’ from 2014. The final death toll of Hillsborough stood at ninety six (as well as at least three suicides which have been attributed to the events of that day), around half of whom were under the age of twenty one - the youngest of which was ten year old Jon-Paul Gilhooley, who was the cousin of future Liverpool star Steve Gerrard. In the wake of Hillsborough, Arsenal resisted pressure from the Football League to resume fixtures in order to not be seen to be seeking a points advantage over Liverpool. Once Liverpool had decided to complete the remainder of the 1988/89 season, Arsenal played their first game just forty eight days prior to theirs.

Liverpool won the replayed Semi Final against Forest two weeks before the emotionally charged 1989 FA Cup Final against neighbours Everton, which the Red half of Merseyside won 3-2 after extra time. A 5-1 win over West Ham three days on meant that going into the final game showdown between the two sides, Liverpool took a three point lead and had a plus four goal difference advantage over Arsenal, meaning that only a win by two clear goals would give Arsenal the title. In the years since, there are some that have tried to portray Anfield ’89 as only occurring as a result of Liverpool’s grief at Hillsborough, this school of thought however severely downplays both the enormity of the task which faced Arsenal, as well as the on-pitch response of the Liverpool players in the games that followed Hillsborough.

Arsenal’s task was to win at Anfield – something they’d failed to do for fourteen and a half years prior to May 1989 (Arsenal had failed to even manage a draw in the League there since October 1980). Not just that, Arsenal had to win at Anfield by two clear goals – something no-one had done for over two seasons prior. Not only did Arsenal have to beat Liverpool (something no team had done since New Years’ Day, eighteen games prior), but they also had to stop Liverpool winning (something only one team – Merseyside rivals Everton - had managed to do in the previous fourteen games). It was undoubted that the Liverpool players - who in the days following Hillsborough attended many of the funerals of the victims - were deeply affected by the tragedy (one only had to look at their reaction after the final whistle against Arsenal, particularly that of childhood Kopite John Aldridge), yet their response on the pitch seemed to be to steam roll their way to the double in honour of those who died at Hillsborough – winning seven out of eight games in both the League and the FA Cup.

Arsenal were also a younger side with much less trophy winning experience than Liverpool and, in contrast to them, seemed to be providing a master class in how to blow a title race they’d been in pole position for since Christmas, after gaining just one point from a possible six in their last two fixtures – both at Highbury. The words of the Daily Mirror’s Sports section after Liverpool’s 5-1 win over West Ham said it all: ‘You Haven't Got A Prayer, Arsenal’. However, above all, it severely downplays just how well George Graham got his tactics for the game spot on, especially as re-told in an interview with Perry Groves for Goal.com.

Groves states that George’s tactics to his players ahead of Anfield were that: ‘If we concede the first goal we’re finished…You ain’t going to score three. It just doesn’t happen [at Anfield]. But if we get in at half-time 0-0 we’ve won half the battle, and then we’ll have a chat at half-time and I fancy us to nick a goal in the second half, and if we do then it’s all about momentum, pressure gets to people. If we can score, the momentum will change and all the pressure then goes on Liverpool’. With the exception of Steve Bould nearly scoring early on, the first half (shown in its entirety here) panned out as exactly as George Graham had planned. The crucial turning point of the game was to come seven minutes into the second half with Alan Smith putting Arsenal one up.

Smith’s goal immediately brought a unified response of panic from the Liverpool players, who were harassing the referee to disallow the goal - though they were most probably not entirely coherent on what infringement they were actually protesting. Some claimed handball, some offside, others claimed that from this indirect free kick Smith hadn’t even touched the ball. TV replays from every available angle however clearly proved that Smith’s goal was perfectly legitimate and crucially so too did the referee, regardless of what 40,000 Liverpool fans at Anfield thought at the time. For those who have only in the years since ever seen the edited second half highlights, this footage here of the Second half in its entirety reminds just how end to end the match was after the first goal went in.

As the second half progressed, George Graham reverted to 4-4-2 after starting with five across the back, with Thomas very nearly grabbing Arsenal’s second a lot earlier but hitting it straight at Grobbelaar. The ending of course is known the world over and has since passed into folklore with Thomas grabbing the winner deep into injury time. In contrast to the modern phenomenon of leaving before the final whistle, the Kop actually remained for the trophy presentation. As explained by Perry Groves: ‘we got a standing ovation from the Kop, who had stayed there [after the final whistle] because I think they appreciated the way we’d gone about the game. We didn’t go there and try and boot them off the park, and they’re a very respectful crowd. They know good football’.


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  1. mbg

    Jan 10, 2016, 15:17 #81616

    Ron, can we have a starter for five.

  2. jjetplane

    Jan 10, 2016, 13:25 #81604

    Ha ha! RON and is it possible he is a 14 yr old troll who hates football and his dad is big in hedge funds .... Feed the Rage!

  3. Ron

    Jan 10, 2016, 12:13 #81601

    JJ - i think its far less complex than that. I reckon his first wife ran off with a well endowed Portuguese Chelsea fan and the day after he had his pride and joy Ford Prefect nicked in Manchester in 1964.

  4. jjetplane

    Jan 10, 2016, 11:28 #81597

    I'm just happy for you WESTIE mate and your newly manufactured 'passion' though I do not for a moment believe you are satisfied with the predictable out in the 4th round, finishing fourth again and being beaten by a clear 4 goals in two legs by an under strength Barca ..... COLSeY and B52s are another matter. They are clearly delirious with 'the best footballing team in the world' ..... Hope this helps ....

  5. Bard

    Jan 10, 2016, 8:59 #81591

    Good win, I do like Campbell. Where's Wally by the way ? I dont know about others but I feel a treble coming on, Cup, PL and CL. We will smash Barca there is no doubt at all. Messi Suarez ad Neymar are bang average up against Wally and Olly. Westie I had the same thought about Soton. Do you think they were bought by the Mancs to put in such a performance ? Stranger things have happened. I admit to only having seen highlights yesterday as I was busy decorating the love shack. We decided to cover it with photos of the great one with piped music playing of all his musings on mental strength and top quality. I was in two minds at first but after a couple of hours I have to admit it does give you a warm feeling, I would have used the word thrill but the Ed might delete it.

  6. Badarse

    Jan 09, 2016, 22:27 #81590

    julesd, read the Mail-McLintock article, thank you for the heads up on that one. He is such a dude still. I also read the Eddie Kelly interview today on Arsenal.com and he spoke of how well AFC treated his Mum when her marriage broke up and needed to escape from Glasgow-Arsenal put her and Eddie's sister up in a flat in the old West Stand and lived there for years. He confirmed Bard's view that Arsenal are just that bit different to all the rest, and for Xmas received a Xmas prezzie from them, as all 'Old Guns' do. He also said Frank was the greatest skipper ever, recounting that familiar story of the dressing room speech after the Anderlecht defeat. He confirmed that all the players boarded the plane believing the cup was won. He said Frank was God to him. Even today when they meet up he insists that he just has that something extra, and that Frank stays in touch with all the lads and naturally, they all still respect him.

  7. B52's

    Jan 09, 2016, 22:04 #81589

    Couldn't have been any of the members of the love shack as they aren't supporters of Arsenal. MARCUS or Danny probably.

  8. Ron

    Jan 09, 2016, 21:08 #81588

    Lets have a competition lads. Which footballing sage said this repeatedly in 2013? "We should abort the Cup. Its no longer meriting our full attention. I say play the under 17s in the next round. The fatigue isnt worth the risk, not to mention the grueling flights we face to and from Europe very soon. Cmon you rip roaring, CL challenging, title chasing Gunners".

  9. mbg

    Jan 09, 2016, 21:01 #81587

    Messi and one of his family members have been spotted boarding a plane for London. What could be the reason ?

  10. Jamerson

    Jan 09, 2016, 20:02 #81586

    Why do we have to suffer that Manure defensive long ball garbage,at least in the old days they played some attacking long ball garbage.Even the Manure fans look bored.Looks like another double for us..

  11. Westlower

    Jan 09, 2016, 19:39 #81585

    @JJ, Who are you going to support now that your fav south coast team is out of the Cup? Is that the same Wenger that has won 6 FA Cup's, more than any other manager in history? Glory, glory Man U provided the nation with yet more riveting TV. Give us more, we demand more.......nothing wrong with a regular dose of sterile Manc football - keeps the doctor away!

  12. goonercolesyboy

    Jan 09, 2016, 19:35 #81584

    Good win. Bellerin is some player. Campbell was outstanding. Won the cup 12 times, six FA cup winners medals in 20 years.

  13. mbg

    Jan 09, 2016, 18:32 #81583

    jj, you mean you actually read it.

  14. jjetplane

    Jan 09, 2016, 18:21 #81582

    It is also remarkable how Wenger has been at Arsenal for so long and has managed just two paper silver cups against inferior opponents in over a decade. As you say WESTIE - 'cheating the supporters' and Koeman has been at the Saints how long? Remember - you are a TV viewer and hardly a fan ....

  15. Westlower

    Jan 09, 2016, 17:58 #81581

    3-1 is just what the Doctor ordered and we've avoided a pesky replay. Good that Ramsey is back on the score sheet & hopefully he can keep the goals coming for the remainder of the season. It's remarkable how Southampton have lost 8 of their last 10 games, drew with Villa & won only one, 4-0 v Arsenal. Cheating their supporters or what?

  16. mbg

    Jan 09, 2016, 15:21 #81580

    Hiccup, have just signed it, although probably to late now, I hear there's a protest out side the media entrance too, and inside at half time where the wengerites are going to turn their backs on all TV's for one minute.

  17. mbg

    Jan 09, 2016, 15:10 #81579

    Don't the weeks just fly.

  18. jjetplane

    Jan 09, 2016, 14:26 #81578

    Great stuff on the radio with ManU on this evening and Piers Morgan teaming up with Wrighty tomorrow. Coat - **** off - Lane .....

  19. jjetplane

    Jan 09, 2016, 14:05 #81577

    Insanely brilliant! Makes you want to read it again and again .....

  20. Badarse

    Jan 09, 2016, 13:15 #81576

    "The Case for the CDM-no longer awarded by Cadbury, or to be insisted upon by WOBs". He stepped through the door-he would have to develop the habit of turning the handle and opening it first if he wanted to avoid all these splinters. He cast an eye around the room-with a loud 'OUZAT' he caught it as it bounced off the lampshade. He popped it back into it's socket and vowed that it would remain there, though when he read the Online Gooner he always kept an eye out for westlower. The "Ayes" don't always have it, but are the more positive of the two. 'A WOB did it!' he proclaimed with Gusto-then sent Gusto home as he wasn't required in this sketch. 'How do you know Shylock?' He picked the piece of chicken skin from his teeth, checked it through the magnifying glass and carefully placed it in his ear for later. 'Existentially my dear Watkins. WOBs are pleasant creatures bathed in happiness and light so they always eat their eggs sunny side up, ergo the culprit had egg on his face as I see a trace where he wiped his chin on the curtains whilst seeking sanctuary there when we arrived, he keeps a Ratty and a few chickens in a lock-up off the Eastbourne road, votes with his feet but then has difficulty getting his socks back on, drives a hard bargain convertible qualcast mower, and being the rebel that he is eats After Eights at five past seven.' The Director in awe, promptly sat on the cat on the mat, sometimes he would hug the Pug on the rug, but not when there was a bad moany rising. Hemlock picked up his violin, placed it back down and began to fiddle. 'Please stop doing that Gnomes, Mrs. Hubcap is bringing in the tea, and my first name is Daktori not Ergo-he left last Wednesday.' He counted on the Dockside often, sometimes up to a hundred and seven, which as a mathematician he knew to be the highest number ever. Mrs Hadsome limboed across the room carrying the tea tray on her bosom, the Doorstop did a goose step around the couch and Gridlock banged his forehead on the mantelpiece, stopping the clock and a taxi en route to the dermist. Whatsup bent very low to make small talk with the horsekeeper, 'Mrs Handwash, what was your best time ever?' 'Twenty past six she winked, blinked and jinked her way into the box.' 'Mmm, that smells nice. What do you put behind your ears?' asked the Dropdead. 'Usually my ankles.' she laughed, loved, lost, and left. 'I have it!' said Homeless, holding a loft-he wanted it converted years ago and it was, into a Catholic. It was too heavy so put it down-that's the trouble with attic antics, then he held up the lapdancer with the Arsenal.commie website showing those prophetic words. The Doorknob gave a double take, which is a lot like a single take but twice. True there was a Mo on benefit and en route, departing Swaziland and coming to the Groove any day-there were Arsenic Wrangler's very words insisting it would happen. At this the WOB slithered out from behind the cartrain and slinked down the stairs-he would later invent the Slinky make much money and still refuse to pay the prices at the Hound of Footfall. Flintlock drew on his pipe, sometimes he drew the curtains, and often drew stumps when he played cricket, even though it brought protests from passing one-legged postmen; it was an artistic bent which he had failed to straighten. 'How did you find the lock up, Holness?' 'Harry Belafonte my dear Wormsley, I went to Oxford and turned left.' Was there no end to this man's ability? Thought the Doctrine, though in tacit reply there was his deerstalker-on sideways it's true-and there were his sandals with the grey wooly socks showing beneath his petticoat tails-his favourite bikkies-so that was an end in itself.

  21. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Jan 09, 2016, 12:24 #81575

    Yep, it's now the time that the beeb start their annual blow job on the fa cup. Expect to hear lots of " magic of the cup", "great leveller", " banana skin", etc etc. Well with the pitiful amount of sport they have, why are we surprised. Anyone know why 5 live insists on telling us how many away fans are at every fa cup tie? Do we care?

  22. Hiccup

    Jan 09, 2016, 12:13 #81574

    Eyes down folks. Football Focus has just started. Let's see how many times those dreaded words 'Manchester' and 'United' are mentioned!

  23. Hiccup

    Jan 09, 2016, 11:57 #81573

    More importantly, does anyone know the first time the FA Cup holders weren't shown on TV defending their cup in the following 3rd round? I remember Man United not being shown after they won it in 99. I also recall Wigan's defence started at home to Leyton Orient, and I was astounded that this game wasn't shown live? Bloody Murdoch and the media brainwashing at full throttle back then me suspects.

  24. Westlower

    Jan 09, 2016, 11:28 #81572

    Thanks for the correction Jamie. Well done Hiccup, you never let me down.

  25. Jamie

    Jan 09, 2016, 11:24 #81571

    @Westlower, 1989 was most certainly not the first instance of the FA Cup Final being the last game of the season. Even in pre-war time there would be a set of league fixtures on subsequent Saturdays. Following each of our Finals during 1978-1980, we played a rearranged domestic game afterwards, all of them away: Derby in '78, Chelsea in '79 and both Wolves and Boro in 1980.

  26. Hiccup

    Jan 09, 2016, 10:44 #81570

    I would urge everyone to go online and sign the latest AKB petition to remove Man United from any future televised games. I'm sure every neutral in the land would love to see Arsenal Reserves versus Sundeland Reserves today. I can't believe it's not on the box?

  27. Arsenal Circular

    Jan 09, 2016, 10:29 #81569

    Westlower - thanks for the update. I recall in 1972 after we lost to Leeds in the FA Cup the focus switched to the Monday night. We were at home to Liverpool and denied them the League title. We all stayed in the Stadium with radios close to our ear to get the final stages of the Wolves v Leeds game. If Leeds won the title was theirs and the Double too. None of us wanted that. There was quite a long extra-time and Leeds failed. The cheers were immense. Famously the title went to Brian Clough and Derby who has finished their fixtures and were holidaying overseas.

  28. Westlower

    Jan 09, 2016, 10:17 #81568

    @Arsenal Circular, I vaguely remember the Smudge story but can't confirm it one way or the other. Looking back at the fixture pile up for Liverpool I doubt if there was much wriggle room left for extending the season even further. They didn't play a single game between 11th April & 3rd May. I believe I'm right in saying it was the first time that the FA Cup final wasn't the last game of the season. Liverpool played in that Cup final (Saturday) and then had to play their final two league games on the Tuesday (West Ham) & the Friday (Arsenal). They ultimately played 8 games in May. Losing to Arsenal was their first defeat since Jan 1st, after which they went on an 24 game unbeaten run.

  29. Arsenal Circular

    Jan 09, 2016, 9:28 #81567

    Can anyone correct me about the exchanges re the delay of the Anfield '89 match. I have the impression that - briefly but clearly - AFC declined a request from Liverpool FC to extend the date of the game because of Hillsborough. Then it was realised that Smudger had sustained a fractured cheek bone - maybe against Norwich City. Then AFC changed its position and agreed to the extension. Right or Wrong?

  30. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Jan 09, 2016, 8:50 #81566

    Heysel and Hillsborough are linked because of Liverpool. Its no coincidence. Anyone of us who went up there in those days know full well what to expect - remember being asked for the time? The Bin Dippers make a lot of noise about 1989, but are strangely quiet about 1985

  31. julesd

    Jan 09, 2016, 7:15 #81565

    To all true football fans, especially those aged 50 and under, read the 2 page interview with Frank McLintock on pages 114/15 in today's Mail newspaper. Forget your political affiliations, just be in awe & be humbled by Frank's story. Read and be educated how life was for footballers back in the 60/70's. Get your kids and grand kids to learn something today & maybe it'll stay with them as they grow. All you senior citizens will already be privileged to know what an inspiration Frank is/was to AFC .

  32. Alsace

    Jan 09, 2016, 7:03 #81564

    Happy memories of a time when the reserves that I used to watch for free at Highbury, reached the height of their game. Very very amusing contrast this morning as Manchester City's egoist in chief expresses his disgust at not being made African player of the year. Goodness knows I love to dislike professional footballers for their behaviour, but this really does take the....cake.

  33. mbg

    Jan 09, 2016, 0:12 #81563

    Another successful week of trolling for me, getting in digs about Wenger or The Old Fool as I like to call him/it on history-based articles which have nothing to do with the current regime. Good, huh!

  34. 80's Gooner

    Jan 08, 2016, 23:46 #81562

    Yes I remember only a week before Hillsborough nearly getting crushed in the away end at the Dell, stood on the steps because there was no room on the terraces.

  35. mbg

    Jan 08, 2016, 21:24 #81561

    jj, just wait until he starts getting credit for certain things, from fans even players etc, TOF will not have him about the place to long.

  36. mbg

    Jan 08, 2016, 20:47 #81560

    Peter Wain, it doesn't surprise a lot of us, but as usual it's working as the sheep are lapping it up, you have to laugh.

  37. jjetplane

    Jan 08, 2016, 20:26 #81559

    Westie loving the FA Cup! Thing is with the Mancs having to take it seriously makes good for histrionics. Arsenal winning it three times would be ironic as Arthur hardly wanted it in the first place. If we were talking six league titles in twenty years then we could call him a great manager. Everyone wants the FA Cup this year .... Did GG cut some character at Anfield. Better than James Bond! Love the way he tried to calm everyone after they had done it! Pure class ....

  38. Westlower

    Jan 08, 2016, 19:21 #81558

    @AKB Arsenal v Sunderland is broadcast on Setanta Ireland, if you have a means of viewing it. Annoyingly Man U are being shown live for the 46th consecutive FA Cup tie. How disrespectful is that to the current holders of the FA Cup. It was always a given that the holders would be shown defending their crown in the 3rd round but sadly the media brainwashing of the Mancs has got totally out of control. That should wake up Mr Hiccup?

  39. Seven Kings Gooner

    Jan 08, 2016, 18:26 #81556

    Great piece again Robert, very well written, especially regarding Hillsborough and the aftermath. The LC 1-1 draw at Anfield in Nov 88, has to be taken in context with our performance in May 89. I think after the chances we created in this tie (We should have been at least 3 up before Barnes scored) it must have given us some confidence that we could win that May decider. The breaking runs of Rocky and Micky T caused Liverpool a lot of problems and Richardson in his holding role stopped Liverpool from getting a foothold in the game. That said it was a cracking game with a real ebb and flow and some tasty tackles to reminds us what a tough 90 minutes was install for any forward facing Arsenal. Lovely goal by Barnes and some great action of Brian Marwood, he gave us real balance on the left. Had BM stayed fit for the whole season May 89 would never have happened, we would have won the title a few games earlier.

  40. Arseneknewbest

    Jan 08, 2016, 17:08 #81551

    JJet - Thanks for that little scandinavian nugget. My other half has a real thing for Freddie so she'll be happy as well. Do you fancy the Hibbies over the Bairns on sunday?

  41. Arsenal Circular

    Jan 08, 2016, 17:06 #81550

    Rob - that is a great piece. Triggers so many memories for which many thanks. I remember in the days between Liverpool's win over West Ham and the Friday night match we all talked about one thing "Two Clear Goals". Not two-nil but Two Clear Goals. I watched at home with two young daughters and when Thomas scored his goal we all shrieked in total joy and my wife came into the room and told us in no uncertain manner that we would wake the little ones. In the twenty six years since they have not shown any ill-effects. One other point and thanks to Jim Rosental for this. ITV covered the match and Jim was doing touchline duty He recounts that the referee, David Hutchinson a detective from Cambridge, made a bee-line for Jim immediately after the final whistle had blown. The ref had just one thought in his mind. Was Smudger's goal OK? If you remember there was a free kick awarded to Arsenal because of dangerous kicking by Whelan against Rocky. The free kick was indirect and this was confirmed because the referee raises his left arm straight to the sky to show that it was not a direct free kick. Winterburn takes the kick. Smudger comes late - definitely gets his head on the ball. A good goal. Were the Liverpool players trying to say that an early Adams run behind the back four should have brought an offside flag? Were they saying that Smudger never got a touch? Regardless Rosental assures Hutchinson it was a good goal and the referee said a big thankyou. And it was a good goal and the greatest of great wins. Thanks Rob.

  42. jjetplane

    Jan 08, 2016, 16:59 #81549

    Freddie Freddie back as a coach sounds like a good thing. A brave, intelligent player and a proper Gooner. Good January signing ....

  43. Westlower

    Jan 08, 2016, 16:42 #81545

    Surprisingly the odds on a Sunderland win tomorrow have been tumbling this afternoon, some bookies as short as 15/2 from an overnight 10/1 to 12/1. What's inspired the betting on Sunderland? Figures released showing wages paid in 2014/15: CFC £215.6m, Man U £203m, Citeh £193.5m, AFC £192m. Abramovich also injected further funding of £46.7m in 2015 & £57.1m in 2014. Sugar daddy, sugar daddy giz a wave.....

  44. mbg

    Jan 08, 2016, 16:34 #81544

    Some good memories in that one (the flowers was a nice touch)and another good photo to accompany, Perry Groves met him in club level some years ago (after another one of our many embarrassments under wenger) some of us had a good chat with him, he wasn't afraid to say what he thought that night (unlike a lot of other wenger luvvies) and what a lot of us thought then, and still do, I'm sure things haven't changed with him, top bloke.

  45. jjetplane

    Jan 08, 2016, 16:09 #81541

    Fantastic stuff Rob and a night to be so proud of. Tony Adams was the real boss of Arsenal for so long.

  46. Arseneknewbest

    Jan 08, 2016, 15:25 #81540

    Robert - Brilliant - thank you. '89 will never be surpassed in my opinion (and I say that with maybe 30 more footy seasons in me). 19 years of waiting put to rest against the hugest of odds. I still have my VHS recording (with the plastic tabs broken off!) of the entire thing and have kept one of those tellies with a built-in VHS player to dip in occasionally. Watching the last few minutes while Kev R is getting treatment and McMahon is doing his "one minute" routine, and Brian Moore and Pleaty (why him as pundit that night?) are crapping on about poetic justice that L'pool should win the title, I still think that we're not going to do it. Try as I might to relegate that Mickey T moment below stuff like my kids being born, I still can't help feeling it's nevertheless one of the high points of my life. Sounds at least as though Weng is planning to put out a serious team. A handsome stress-free win'll do me and a draw against a relative minnow in the next round (as long as it's not Sheff W). Anyone know if it's being shown on a proper tv channel tomorrow or is it streaming only? If it's the latter, then it's not a respectful way to treat the holders in my view.

  47. Bard

    Jan 08, 2016, 15:00 #81539

    Rob the May 89 game is up there with my greatest Arsenal moments. I can see it all as if it were yesterday, epic win. Great article

  48. Peter Wain

    Jan 08, 2016, 14:49 #81538

    Same old transfer routine lots of promise and no action. lots of links and no buys. Same old Wenger transfer shoe shuffle.

  49. Jamie

    Jan 08, 2016, 13:03 #81535

    Informative as ever. Just a quick correction to mention that Liverpool finished the 1984/85 trophyless for the first time since 1974/75, not 1971/72

  50. Ron

    Jan 08, 2016, 12:30 #81532

    Can i add too that at Anfield on the night of the CL qtr final back in 08 all of our fans (inc myself) in the back 4 rows of restricted view seats in the awful Anfield Road End pushed fwd and those rows were left empty (terrible views back there, like looking through a letter box!) as fans flooded down the alleyways and filled the rows of the seats in front of those 4 rows. It was packed and people were hurt when Adebayor scored as they fell over the seats in front of them. Very dangerous situ which i thought then proved the lie that all seater stadia cures all risks. They dont and never will in my view.

  51. Ron

    Jan 08, 2016, 11:57 #81529

    Great read. Its very true that Hillsboro could and maybe would have happened anywhere. The only surprise for me is that it took until the late 80s in all honesty. A few of us have been to Hillsboro before to Semis and it was dire back then how things were organised. The old Platt Lane stand at Maine Road was deadly too in big matches with City back in the day. Ive had some bad days at West Ham too when the crowd was swelled there. Late 60s as a kid there was bad crushing on the old Smethwick End at West Brom at a Cup tie i went too. Lets face it too, that there were occasions on our own North Bank where the same risk was latent. a few of us must have seen people hurt by being pushed hard on crash barriers when surges happened. Hillsboro s tragic events were in many ways a ticking time bomb. Arsenal handled it superbly that night at Anfield i thought.Having said all of this i personally think seats cause a risk. As it is theyre hardly ever sat on and when people go barmy when goals are scored ive seen people go head over heels over the seats in front of them at Arsenal in recent years. Having seen the modern convertible terracing in Germany a time or two, im a big believer in their value and safety. Its far from being just about atmosphere.

  52. John F

    Jan 08, 2016, 11:13 #81527

    Rob I dought whether you will write another article again covering such a broad range of emotions.The cs attack on the Utd players coming so soon after Heysel was shocking.As for Hillsborough as you said it was only a matter of time before something happened.I don't know if anyone out there experienced Ipswich away when they only opened one pen for the Arsenal fans.The kids at the front were beginning to get crushed as more and more fans tried to get in,people were pleading and swearing at the police to open the gate.After some time good sense prevailed but the police decided to put the fans who spilled onto the pitch in with the Ipswich fans rather then the empty pen next to us.The papers called it a riot when it was nothing but incompetence by the police. It was good to end with the scenes at Highbury and Anfield thanks Rob a great read.