Euro 2016 Semi Final Musings

Reflections on the two games that saw Wales and Germany go home



Euro 2016 Semi Final Musings

Why isn’t one of this pair in a home shirt?


So… Wales v Portugal in Lyon. A game that the Welsh justifiably felt they could win, given their beating of Belgium, and the fact that in five matches so far, Portugal had failed to beat anyone in 90 minutes. However, it was not to be. With the creativity of Aaron Ramsey lost through suspension, there was a heavy reliance on Gareth Bale’s shooting boots. And on the night, it didn't happen.

Portugal, defensively, have had one horrowshow in these finals, against Hungary. And since the group stage, they have undoubtedly improved. They progressed with just three points in their group as one of the best third place finishers. Better teams exited the tournament due to the quirks of the draw whilst Ronaldo and company remained. Against the Welsh, they were without a key player themselves through injury, Pepe, but didn’t seem to miss him as much as Chris Coleman’s team missed Ramsey.

Ultimately, the game was decided on the quality of the chances the Portuguese created. Love him or loathe him (and no need to ask which regarding the readers on this website), you cannot deny that Ronaldo is a class exponent in the art of heading a football at a goal with power. I wonder what exercises he does in his gym to develop that weird neck of his, the one his head seems too small for. He scored a goal of similar quality against the Hungarians, and does not need much space to work in. So marking him tightly isn’t going to always be the solution. In fairness, he was hauled over by James Collins in the first half when a cross came in and should have been awarded a spot kick. After he did score, only three minutes had passed before a shot of his was deflected in by Nani. Game over.

By the way, the first choice strips of both sides are red. So why were they both in away kits? Anyway, for Wales, a triumphant tournament. And something to build upon. In terms of organization, team spirit and getting the most out of the resources available, they could teach the English side a few lessons. Their exit does mean though that Mark Clattenburg will referee the final on Sunday, on top of doing both the FA Cup and Champions League finals this season. The politics behind his even being at the tournament are interesting. The FA wanted to send Martin Atkinson, but UEFA rate Clattenburg more highly, so in the end, both officiated at the finals. Clattenburg though, has remained, and in fairness, he seems to have had a decent enough tournament so far. UEFA have evidently decided that his howler in not playing advantage in the FA Cup Final was not typical of his performances, and I assume he has generally performed well in the Champions League to have been given the final a few weeks back. It does always add a bit of interest to these matches when a Premier League ref is in charge. Who can ever forget the performance of Graham Poll in Germany 2006, giving three yellow cards to the same player before sending him off?

At half time, the BBC recalled the aforementioned 1982 semi-final. I remember watching whilst still living at my parents’ house as an impressionable teenager. France went 3-1 up and I thought, game over. I felt the need to ‘park my breakfast’ so to speak (albeit late in the evening by now). By the time I returned from the loo, it was 3-3. Ah, the stuff of memories. I think most everyone outside Germany was rooting for the Italians in that final after Harald Schumacher’s “challenge” on Patrick Battiston. If you thought Howard Webb bottled it in 2010, this was far worse.

Anyway, 34 years on, and there was no comeback for the Germans this time when they went two down in Marseille. A rare defensive error by Kimmich allowed Paul Pogba to centre the ball and Griezmann doubled the home side’s advantage. There have been a number of critics of the French defence, but, in spite of their changing the centre back pairing after the last 16 game, they performed very well last night. Against Iceland, and leading comfortably, I think they just took the foot off the gas a bit in terms of concentration. There is room for improvement, especially in the midfield. Perhaps N’golo Kante will return to the starting line-up for the final to shore things up.

One observation about the semis, and especially last night. With the amnesty on yellow cards (the idea being no-one is suspended from the final itself), there is no disincentive to any player regards making tactical fouls, at least until they do get a yellow card. And at times, this made the game very bitty. Fouling is so commonplace, it is rare to watch an international game without frequent stoppages these days. And part of the problem, certainly at set pieces, is that everyone is doing it rather than there simply being a perpetrator and a victim. Maybe it is all the extra cameras at these tournaments. Nothing is missed. Who’d be a referee, eh?

I’ll wrap up the Euro 2016 offerings on Monday after the final has been played.


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  1. mbg

    Jul 11, 2016, 17:53 #90748

    jj, i'm surprised the Arsenal players on the French team didn't forget themselves and start whooping high fiveing and bouncing with selfies all round with the way TOF has them thinking, they're that used to celebrating after winning fook all under him, he was probably standing up himself with his two fists clenched going up and down smiling thinking they were the winners and had achieved something.

  2. Ron

    Jul 11, 2016, 12:19 #90740

    How does refusing losers medals show 'class' pray tell?. In my view it shows the alternative.

  3. Mark from Aylesbury

    Jul 11, 2016, 12:09 #90739

    Dear JackJambieGoon - mother didn't raise you very well did she. One can hate losing but one must accept defeat with grace. The disappointment and frustration should then spur you onto greater heights. Or alternatively you could blame everybody, put on little pouty lips, claims its all unfair and maybe even join a webgroup who are insistent we were robbed of the championship by a combination of referee's the Bilderberg Group, New World Order and probably god damn Liberals. I think I know which group you'd fall into.

  4. jeff wright

    Jul 11, 2016, 12:05 #90738

    They had everything going for them the French with big noisy partisan home crowds that would not have looked out of place during the revolution jeering at aristocrats being carried in tunbrils to le guillotine. They French were also aided by playing in their own stadia and were getting helping hands from refs on top. However, the French defence never looked convincing the spuds GK having his work cut out by having to make more than his fair share of saves.He must have felt at ease though with that spuds like strip with the big cockerel on it but having Keystone Koso standing around like a traffic cop waving the oppo strikers on toward his goal can't have helped much . It will be interesting to see how many players from this tournament start for their clubs compared with us . Wengo is well known for being paranoid about players being tired and lacking sharpness so if past experience is anything to go by we could be missing a few players with them still on their holidays recovering from losing at the Euros. Wengo has been rather quiet lately no doubt though he will soon pop up to announce that we will definitely be challenging for the title albeit only in October . Good old Arsene.

  5. jjetplane

    Jul 11, 2016, 10:27 #90737

    See Giro (aging by the second) was the only one to refuse his loser's medal because he actually thought France had won it! Top four loser all the way but sure he will pick himself up to entertain the likes of Leeky (get a life mate!) next season. Will all the Asano losers start together in September? Oh the passion lol!

  6. Mark from Aylesbury

    Jul 11, 2016, 9:11 #90736

    Jamerson - it's a good shout a bit GG like. No muscling off the ball then the bitter tears of Kos. Yeah sounds good

  7. mbg

    Jul 11, 2016, 1:25 #90735

    jj, it's going to be very crowded on Walton's mountain now another one is heading off, at least pa pa Walton will be happy he'll be onto another nice little earner in his saw mill building another house, I wonder have they built a central command yet, or a bookies.

  8. mbg

    Jul 11, 2016, 1:10 #90734

    jw, yes remember when you never got a nick name until you deserved it ? in other words earned it, nowadays the pampered premadonna nice boys turn up having just bought their first shaver with their huge signing on fee (and probably don't know how to use it, or need it)and the wengerite luvvies give him a nick name before he's even kicked a ball and that's all he gets even though he's won fookall. pathetic.

  9. jeff wright

    Jul 10, 2016, 23:04 #90733

    Keystone Kos was easily out muscled by the big Portugeezer striker for their winning goal showing yet again that he ain't no top CB . Giro was about as much use as a chocolate teapot up front and got subbed before the end he cut a pathetic figure as he truded disconsolately off and into history. A poor tournament comes to an end and good riddance. I see yet more deluded rantings from lee k fc I can't recall anyone saying that we would not finish in the top 4 previously in fact completely the opposite .This season though due to certain factors I myself can see Wenger struggling to win his his top 4 trophy .Tell us about it in May leekey or why not tell us now who YOU think will win the league.If not then stop whining about others who DO at least offer their views instead of them just moaning like a big cry baby at others who post on here with views that they do not share about good old Arsene.

  10. Leek fc

    Jul 10, 2016, 22:34 #90732

    Positively, it's the untold year in the qualifying champions league berth. Positively, it's been a couple of fa cup wins in the last few years. Positively, it's untold many, many, many years of St Totteringhams day. Positively, the greatest manager in the history of AFC. Negativity is the breed of this site. We've lost the league already, Jeff, JJ, Akb, smithy, mug...... Go back 12 months and it's the same shi7 different bucket from comments from Jeff and his clan. " we'll struggle to get into the top four" ... 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012 , the list goes on. See you all on match day then. Maybe not eh mug... Sorry mbg (many boring gooners)

  11. Smithy

    Jul 10, 2016, 21:56 #90731

    Pathetically negative or pathetically positive opinions are what a fan site is all about.The only thing I would say to you leek fc is that the negative side were sold a lie when we were told the Emirates move was about competing . But in reality we slip further and further behind in the champions league and in the league we never have enough winners in the team. It's the season after season repetition that creates negativity - any glass half full positivity was smashed 5 or so seasons ago.

  12. Leek fc

    Jul 10, 2016, 21:16 #90730

    Mark, JJ smithy. And there lies the tale upon the negative fools among the online gooner clan, cannot look as far as the feet they stand upon. "You are not adding anything to the discussion" simply put for you Mark,. As soon as you stand against the Time for change stance, it is within the minority on this site. The site is pathetically negative and this will ensure its downfall.

  13. Arseneknewbest

    Jul 10, 2016, 19:36 #90729

    Andy Murray - An Arsenal and Hibees fan. What a brilliant display today and such an example to other professional sports people. He's a genuine hero. Maybe he could be lined up to play as our CB after Per retires.

  14. Danny

    Jul 10, 2016, 18:34 #90728

    We need a number 10 giroud can work with. so why don't we trade Sanchez to Madrid for Griezmann

  15. jeff wright

    Jul 10, 2016, 13:55 #90727

    Yes jj where would the French be without Giro. Probably with Benzo up front if he were not out on bail charged with blackmailing another French player .You couldn't make it up.

  16. jjetplane

    Jul 10, 2016, 13:21 #90726

    JW of course we have the newly named Asano FC and Olly Giro has a local ring to it. Still cannot see why everyone is banging on about Griezmann when it is Olly who is clearly doing all 'the donkey work' ..... latest has Messio to Citeh and Pogo to Utd while Sancho goes to Juve. Wengo must be hoping for a early winter so he can get back in the duvet (zippo permitting) ....

  17. Mark from Aylesbury

    Jul 10, 2016, 12:08 #90725

    Leekey your never positive either, all you do along with Jambie is make bitter digs against those who hold the majority view (at least amongst posters) on this site. Many of us have submitted pieces on this site. You , Jambie, Old man Colesey, Westie, Amos, Rev Brian, a grand total of zilch. Do you spot a trend here? You're not adding anything to the discussion, in fact you won't even tell us who you back for the title. Until you start telling us how and why we are moving forward the discussion passes you by. It's your fellow travelers who are giving up (retiring in Jambie's case). We are still very much here and all ears for your vital contribution .

  18. jeff wright

    Jul 10, 2016, 12:03 #90724

    One example of Ivan and co's spin machine is the way they are trying to take advantage of France's Euro party albeit it has been aided and abetted by some home town decisions by the refs when they have required 'em. Big slower than wet varnish tattooed the living legend in his own underpants Olly is ,according to spin being put by AFC, the target for many top clubs after his heroics in Euro 2016 but he is not for sale. So Real Madrid ,Barcelona and Bayern Munich can eat their hearts out because the big guy is staying at AFC! You couldn't make it up. I loved Cookies comments after the Cardiff flag waving rally to welcome 'home' the Welsh side- despite most being English - but that doesn't matter according to Cookie because they have 'Welsh blood' flowing in their veins .Someone should point out to cookie that blood is just blood and Nationalistic traits result from culture and upbringing.I like the Welsh teams camaraderie though they have quiz nights to keep themselves from getting bored with talking one another up and call Bale, Balo , .Ramsey bleached hair do and all is of course Rambo ( ha ha) this adding an O onto players names or changing them is not unusual it must be something to do with the school boy type mentality that most footballers possess. AOC is or was called Chambo .I suggest adding an O onto Sanogo's name making it Sano-goo. Wenger could become Wengo. If only he would.

  19. Fact 1

    Jul 10, 2016, 11:26 #90723

    If you took away the success the spuds enjoyed between 1951 and 1961 they really are no different to West Ham,both teams tried to play football in the 60's,both teams now love to close down and knock it up to lanky Englishman with limited abilities.

  20. jjetplane

    Jul 10, 2016, 9:58 #90722

    Bye Leek and please take Jamerson the Deviant with you. Hope you find your ounce of passion.

  21. Smithy

    Jul 10, 2016, 6:44 #90721

    Ref- leek fc - one persons positiveness is another persons vacuous insane smiling when all around you is crumbling , decaying and burning. You will be like Nero stood on empty north back twinging his lyre. We are still a million miles away from being a good side - the defence is rubbish , the midfield disjointed and we don't have an out and out striker at the club . Keep smiling at your imaginary friend!

  22. Leek fc

    Jul 09, 2016, 21:26 #90720

    13 comments and not one single ounce of passion or Positiveness. Online gooner. You should be ashamed of where this site is heading. Same OLD faces, same OLD comments. At least untold can shake it up a bit. Dull, very, very dull. Bye bye gooner fanzine.

  23. Arseneknewbest

    Jul 09, 2016, 19:37 #90719

    Finsbury Joe - You've taken the discussion in a slightly different direction now. Another - and more meaningful - way to compare the history of two clubs is to measure the number and quality of trophies (although idiots like Ivan the terrible, weng and the merkin man would probably opt for financial performance as they key measure of success and therefore distinction between clubs). By that widely-accepted yardstick of historical success, there is a world of difference between Arsenal and Spurs. Of the major teams that play derbies in England, I'd suggest that the gap between Arsenal and Spurs is bigger than everton-bindipperz, manure-citeh or any other recognised rivalry. You've got to admit Joe; Spurs don't really get close to Arsenal, and I think your claim that the title is winging it's way to N17 next season is just hubris. Spurs would need to dominate english football for at least 10 consecutive years to get anywhere close to mirroring our success. I know that's tough to accept but most impartial observers would see that as fact. Sorry to p*ss on your chips cos you often come on here and talk sense.

  24. Peter Wain

    Jul 09, 2016, 18:53 #90718

    another day and no top top quality signings. Looks like last year. No striker and no decent defender and if Ozil Sanchez and Ramsey not fit for opening game with Giroud and Kos looks like reserve side. Go now Wenger at least we will then sign a new manager.

  25. mbg

    Jul 09, 2016, 18:18 #90717

    Smithy, of course all these names in the press are bluster, TOF's and clubs spin machine is in over drive, they know the natives are getting restless now, same as every season at this time and have to try and quell it, and like I've already said a while ago the funniest thing is there's those who believe it, so don't fall for it, the euros have been they're saving grace so far, so the spin is cranking up. Hear what your saying ref those clubs you mention, and the players factor all that in also, having proper players around them makes it a hell of a lot easier alright (and enjoyable) for real top top qualittee players, but what makes these players minds up more than anything else (unless their past it of course and just out for a payday) is the manager, a manager who is a winner, a manager who has proved it to these players too, a manager with ambition, a manager who wants to win, a manager who knows what he's doing, and has proved that too, (not one who thinks he does my god what must they think when they look at wenger because these players know and can see for themselves) and a manager who they can better themselves under, (not regress) they look at the peps the mourniho's etc, with all the mentioned in their locker having proved it and not just once but over and over, and look at an old past it fraud like wenger, there's no comparisons an easy choice.

  26. Smithy

    Jul 09, 2016, 16:49 #90716

    Which world class forward would want to come to Arsenal when there are easier gigs at PSG , Barca , Real Madrid . We will always be shopping for a 2nd tier striker hoping they become world class. All these names in the press are bluster I reckon he'll sign someone like ighalo for 30 million. We are not toxic but there are easier choices for a world class striker with many options.

  27. Arseneknewbest

    Jul 09, 2016, 15:11 #90715

    Finsbury Joe - Not sure I agree with you about your team. I reckon Spurs's England players will be physically and mentally fried after France. Like many others, I rate Lloris as a gk and a captain, but I think his motivational skills will be tested to the fore as your ingerland duds try to restore form, equilibrium and that pressing game which is knackering. Our England duds will be more rested but are still duds. This could nevertheless be the year that St Totteringham's day does not happen, but it could be a case of you finishing say 6th and us 7th or 8th. My basic point is that I think neither N London team are going to shine this year.

  28. jjetplane

    Jul 09, 2016, 14:04 #90714

    They have the ambition FJ and are not afraid of trying ... we plastics know what we are on about ... If they land Gotze and Asano FC get Sanogo back the perspective takes shape. Klopp is looking merciless and Koeman is dying to make waves. A mad season awaits with Asano Fc finishing 7th and Wenger still to stay ... ps a few clubs were after Olly til they saw him against Germany and fell asleep ... Interesting too that the Foxes are buying well.

  29. Finsbury Joe

    Jul 09, 2016, 13:36 #90713

    I agree with everything you say jjetplane and have always thought you to be one of the wisest on here.Personally I think it could be Tottenham's title this coming season.The direct closing down game is highly effective and the games Tottenham failed to win at the end of the season were more down to accidents.

  30. mbg

    Jul 09, 2016, 12:37 #90712

    jj, sad isn't it, every fooking year we're rebuilding ( how many is it now ? eleven ?)and the house is never liveable or ready for occupancy, how many teams did real managers/winners like fergie build/rebuild over the years ? even mourniho ? pep ? etc and we have mr bumble still bumbling about trying and failing miserably to build even one, another of the many sackable offences at any other club in Europe, big or small, yes as every day goes past this old past it manager we have becomes more detestable. wenger out.

  31. jjetplane

    Jul 09, 2016, 10:13 #90711

    Interesting watching carthorse Ollie when he has not got the ball. Barely manages to stroll about and is a weak option in big games. First big game for the French and he is irrelevant. Ozil likewise looking like Germany's best player because their big players like Muller had stinkers throughout. Ozil just runs and passes in tidy little circles for Germany as he does for Asano Fc. Sanchez is a lot more direct and many voices saying he is off to Italy to play .... Pretty obvious the Welsh side are better than Asano Fc so if Ramsay has ambition he will stall like Ozil and force a move. Asano Fc need time out so a period of wholeasale rebuilding from a mid table perspective for half a decade or so would seem the likely pathway.

  32. Arseneknewbest

    Jul 09, 2016, 10:04 #90710

    Bard - Agreed. Each closed-season alienates me further from the club. That quote of Eintein's about madness and repeating the same action seems more applicable than ever. The anger is turning to apathy as weng completes the destruction of the club. Maybe I should get the number of the handyman that carried out Jamee's trepanning operation.

  33. Bard

    Jul 09, 2016, 9:40 #90709

    interesting semis Kev both decided by class individuals Ronaldo and Griezemann. The big games are nearly always decided by high class players. Giroud showed exactly what he is, a hard working but limited player. He had a crucial chance but even I could have run faster. Good though he is he needs too many chances. Looks like he will be our starting striker next season. If he is you can kiss goodbye to the title from day one. But why get het up, Arsenal arent interested in winning things and havent been for nearly a decade.

  34. Arseneknewbest

    Jul 08, 2016, 22:56 #90708

    Just back from Cardiff City Stadium. Arseneknewbest junior insisted after Ms Arseneknewbest got tix from the interweb and delegated the job to lucky old me! I got within about ten yards of Rambo and told him that he needs to be ready to start the season on time and stop acting like a fecking primadonna. He agreed, but said Wenger told him, "non"! That last bit was made up but welsh fans turned a semi-final defeat into quite a happy occasion (although the manic street preachers were awful - sounded like Jamee singing his racist ditties while sitting on his rhinestone bidet). It has to be France (and Murray!) on Sunday - I want to see ronaldo gurning in anguish after a heavy defeat.