Plan B Saves The Day

Online Ed: Arsenal thump Sunderland on Wearside



Plan B Saves The Day


Injuries to Monreal, Cazorla and Walcott meant that three players were retained from the side that defeated Reading last Tuesday in the League Cup. There was an argument to keep Gibbs and Iwobi in the team on form anyway, whilst Elneny continued in central midfield.

After some initial sparring, the visitors began to demonstrate their superiority as Sunderland played deep, although not quite as entrenched as Middlesbrough last weekend, allowing Arsenal more space to move the ball around in the final third. Ozil had a good chance but shot meekly at the keeper, but it was not too long before the opening goal arrived. A period of possession culminated in a good burst by the Ox to create space for an excellent cross into the centre that Sanchez got his head to, the Sunderland defence resembling statues.

Throughout the game, the combinations between the full backs and wide attackers on both flanks worked well, Bellerin and the Ox on one side, with Gibbs and Iwobi on the other. Good use of width led to a host of chances and dangerous balls across the face of the goal. We hadn’t seen enough of it against Boro, so it was pleasing to see. Ozil had a second chance to score before the interval but, one on one with the keeper, failed to clear him with a dinked chip, his body not quite in the right position. Time to sit and study the Youtube clip of the finger wagging Robert Pires beating Peter Schmeichel.

Alex Iwobi also needs to work on his finishing, two half decent chances flying over the bar from just outside the area. Still, not apparent cause of alarm against a Sunderland side already looking doomed to spend next season in the Championship.

More profligacy after the interval as the Ox rushed a very decent opportunity when clean through, followed by the denial of what looked like an obvious penalty for a pull on Sanchez.

Worse was to follow as Whatmore took advantage of some spin on a long ball to get clear of Mustafi, taking the ball round Cech and being bundled over by the keeper’s momentum. At least, with last summer’s rule change, it only meant a yellow card for the Arsenal shotstopper. There was no stopping Defoe’s penalty though as the striker sent him the wrong way. Game on.

Wenger brought on Giroud for Iwobi. Last weekend, it was obvious to everybody that, as an option to break down a resilient defence, Giroud was a huge absence not being on the bench. Thankfully, my suspicion that there had been a fallout with the manager and that the toe injury might be a smokescreen proved wrong and the HFB made a huge impact, scoring two goals with his first two touches as the Gunners put away three in less than seven minutes. The first was a great volley after a very decent cross from Kieran Gibbs (a side of this game that has often let him down in the past), the second a fantastic glancing header that looped over the keeper from an Ozil corner. Alexis completed the rout by finishing cleverly from close in after Gibbs had hit the post and Ramsey’s follow-up (the Welshman on for the Ox) blocked.

You could see the home side collapse completely after Giroud’s second goal. It will take a lot to turn around their season, given the dearth of quality players. David Moyes is either going to remain long term with the acceptance they are going down and be given the chance to rebuild or the club will get shot before the end of November and get someone in that they hope can motivate the players to start winning the points that will lead to survival. My money is on the latter, although I don’t think a new face will be successful in turning the current side around.

As for Arsenal, they remain in the title hunt. Certainly every side in the hunt for the title is dropping unexpected points, and in this respect, the season has echoes of last time – although with no Leicester-style surprise package in the mix (unless Everton remain credible contenders as the season develops). What has become apparent is that there are very few gimme fixtures. Sunderland might be one, but Burnley’s draw at Manchester United means that no short odds accumulator can be placed with complete confidence any more. And that, of course, is one of the reasons that the Premier League is a bigger sell abroad that La Liga. More surprises.

With Sunderland’s equalizer, there was a danger that this game could become one, but quality told and in truth it would have been a travesty were the visitors denied the three points given the balance of play and number of chances. So job done, and a confidence boosting result ahead of the huge derby game next weekend. One wonders whether or not the manager will rest players in midweek against Ludogorets, although as Tottenham are also playing, and a day later, I suspect we will not see more than one or two changes in Bulgaria.

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  1. mbg

    Nov 02, 2016, 13:51 #94381

    Nick, it's obvious to those with half a brain every season why we fail, but of course not to those with no brains. And your dead right of course it was a ruse, duped, fooled, yet again by an old fraud of a manager and long forgotten and forgiven without a squeak, by the pea brained anyway. wenger out.

  2. jeff wright

    Nov 02, 2016, 13:41 #94379

    Tbh Nick I think that defence and midfield is also an issue the strikers did not concede 2 soft goals and get exposed time after time for not being that good. The midfield was weak again despite the much vaunted Granit playing ,this geezer is always an accident waiting to happen and will cost us eventually, deja vu le coq who still can't tackle properly and that's before we get to Wengo and his well known lack of any tactical nous. He left it to the players last night and for once they managed to get themselves out of the hole they had dug themselves in. What is all this GK rotation about >? Just more Wengo nonsense -the motorcycle courier is obviously better than Ospina is and any manager with a clue always plays his best GK in big games and uses the second string for dom cup ones. It's all academic anyway because neither the players or Wengo are good enough to win the European Cup. The complete nonsense of going 2 goals down to a side such as Ludo made for a bit of TV entertainment though instead of the usual boring group stage stodge.Watch out though because the spuds ( yawn) are on tonight !

  3. Nick

    Nov 02, 2016, 10:49 #94366

    All turned out well although our old nemesis profligacy threatened to undo us briefly, last night again was the stuff of nightmares about post Halloween frightfest going two down to what is essentially a poor side but fortitude saw us through and a bit of magic from Ozil at the death gave us the win we'd expected ! Just a thought though , everyone and their dog was callingerie stridently for Wenger to buy a class striker in the summer window and he obliged or so many thought albeit with a signing from left field in the capture of Perez , has anyone else seen through this as a ruse ? The bloke has hardly played and now has fallen victim to out injury crisis yet a return of 41 goals in our first 16 games in all competitions has seen the issue forgotten , we have the exact same forward options as the past two seasons, perhaps when Lucas Perez is fit he will prove to be an asset but I still think we have been ( or some of us at any rate) duped by Wenger and the board, and as I pointed out earlier our old enemy profligacy has NOT been banished ,yet again Wenger does not do what everyone thinks he needs to do ,even if we had acquired Vardy I would be saying the same thing we needed a world class stiker Vardy does NOT fit that bill ! Perez is similar in style to the Leicester man but unproven in the Premier league and of course like the Englishman is just off the back of his one and only profitable season in terms of goals ! If we fail again this term it will be obvious to those with half a brain WHY that was the case !

  4. Eric Chab

    Nov 02, 2016, 7:10 #94364

    Hello Mr Jamerson, it is Eric. I have not posted for some time as Mrs Chab not happy that I spend too much time on website. Bad for Man's brain she say. I'm afraid to say Mrs Chab not very happy with you. She say you like old Colonial Round Eye who think they own world. Let me tell you Mr Jamee. Table turn we own you. See that Nuclear Power station next to your caravan we blinking own it, not you. Yeah that right, now your very fat brother he live in Felixstowe well we own that as well! Question, Please tell me why English people drink so much and live in caravan? Ps: What happen to Grumpy Colesey? Did he take up gardening like we suggest? Sorry once again for poor English.

  5. Arseneknewbest

    Nov 01, 2016, 23:48 #94363

    Sad racist Jamee son has been drinking from the caravan based fountain of cream of sum yung guy - a sad and pathetic individual with an inescapable potato juice tang following him across the wet suffolk marshes. A former father and an all round failure.

  6. GS

    Nov 01, 2016, 23:40 #94362

    mbg: Wenger was covering his Arsenal, just in case we lost game, "it was all in the players mind" ....now we have won, no need for excuses. Loads of aliases now posting , come clean boys we know who you are !!!!

  7. mbg

    Nov 01, 2016, 23:33 #94361

    GS, nice one mate, so according to OGL it's all in the players minds, all down to them, nothing to do with him all along, somebody else has been coaching them for the last 10 games then ? or they've been coaching themselves, that would explain a lot.

  8. A

    Nov 01, 2016, 23:13 #94360

    "Mike Hoeye" is of course anagram for, "Jamee says|what's wrong with felating leekie man 24/7 in a schpunk-encrusted caravan?"

  9. mbg

    Nov 01, 2016, 23:10 #94359

    Mark from Aylesbury, no pussy footing around there from another one of these teams who supposedly tried to lure TOF, they'd have soon seen through him too, and got rid, and he'd be a nobody today.

  10. mbg

    Nov 01, 2016, 22:59 #94358

    GoonerRon, of course you do.

  11. GS

    Nov 01, 2016, 22:12 #94357

    Good win pre spuds game, so should help with confidence - nothing more than that , anyway, according to Wenger it's nothing he has done as " it's all in the players minds" , well played the lads, keeps the unbeaten run going into Nov.........Leeky has no opinion on the game , he just wants to say " Wenger must stay "

  12. Arseneknewbest

    Nov 01, 2016, 22:04 #94356

    As an attempt to save you all the bother, here's how the fallout from tonight's game will play out on here in the next few days. Jamee and his daft mates (and even dafter alter egos) will say, "We're going to win the CL and it's all thanks to wengo (yeah, far-fethced but seemingly true in jamee's world of caravan ejaculate). The WOB will say: we fortuitously beat a team that were arguably weaker than Sunderland - think of what we could achieve with a proper manager - don't get a little jamee sized boner about this because we ain't gonna win the CL. You decide...I know where I stand.

  13. Augustus Flair

    Nov 01, 2016, 21:14 #94355

    Sorry, I'm a tad late into this discussion but let's just say the opposition was woeful (how has Moyes still got a job?), but Mesut Ozil was even worse. The chances he missed, the lethargic expressions and the obvious lack of pride in the shirt are an insult to us all really. I have to agree with mbg - Wenger out. Results like this are an illusion; remember how we struggled to beat Swansea and couldn't score against Boro to judge where we really are.

  14. mbg

    Nov 01, 2016, 20:58 #94354

    jj, yes indeed when your been mentioned on sites like that you know for sure your doing/saying something right, and especially when what you've got to say doesn't get posted and/or when you get barred, they can't argue with/against it, it gets right up the AKB's and moonies noses that it really does, and hits home, they hate it, hence the not posting and barring, that's why they'd love that to happen on here too and are always complaining, crying and knarking, they really do think everyone should bow down to their lord and master olg weng, thank God those at Gooner towers have balls and are made at sterner stuff and not as easily led. wenger out now.

  15. Bonzo

    Nov 01, 2016, 19:54 #94353

    Jamee you're a man of the world so I thought you might explain something to me, you see Leekey's got a new girlfriend and apparently they enjoy going to car parks in wooded areas at night. Then the cars flash their lights and they clamber in. What do you think they are up to? It all sounds rather odd. I understand they've met Peter Shilton, Stan Collymore and Paul Ross. It's amazing who you meet in a carpark!

  16. jeff wright

    Nov 01, 2016, 18:01 #94352

    Hi Ron certainly on the face of it it's not looking good for the spuds they have no idea really of how to play the 'pressing game ' properly .Deja Vu Liverpool but they still beat us 4-3 at home. It maybe an obvious thing to say but it will more than likely be down to who scores the most goals .Will Wally be playing or out injured now that big Olly is back .Wengo will almost certainly get 'Rambo' involved and he can't be match fit.

  17. Ron

    Nov 01, 2016, 17:08 #94351

    Hi Jeff - agree re Chelsea. The titles for them or City as i see it right now. Liverpool dont come into my reckoning yet though the pundits are having a collective orgasm over them of course and as usual. Theres an intent again at Chelsea that looks ominous. City are a better team but as we know when they get the bit between the teeth Chelsea are a stubborn team. Conte looks a real motivator and theyre playing for him for sure. My view on us could change if we re top or close to top come New Years Day. Until then, we re a runner and no more. I truly think we ll be Spud mashing on the week end.

  18. jeff wright

    Nov 01, 2016, 16:31 #94350

    GS,the problem is that Wenger and co use supporters loyalty to the club for their own ends .Without I must add reciprocating it themselves. Stan's never put a dime into AFC of his own cash and Wengo demanded a pay rise to stay last time he dragged out his new contract negotiations.I have no time for the spuds so obviously hope that we will win.I'm not as confident as what Ron is though about it. After all Boro are no world beaters and were unlucky not to beat us. I will leave out any predictions and just keep a watching brief with fingers crossed for a good result ! Otherwise lots of gloating from spud supporting acquaintances to have to put up with. I guess that even a draw would be looked on as being a good result for these cretins. I still see the chavs actually as being the London side most likely to be in at the death for the title - with them having no Euro games to play midweek .Wenger is renowned for getting it all f*cked up when he has to play in Europe midweek as we saw last time when after trashing Ludo we toiled to a 0-0 at home v Boro. You couldn't make it up.

  19. GS

    Nov 01, 2016, 16:17 #94349

    mbg: Agree, when I read that, I thought poor remark, shifting blame onto players, if results don't go our way. He needs to look at himself because players have come and gone, but it is under his leadership that Afc have failed on so many occasions, he is already getting his excuses in early, shame on him......

  20. mbg

    Nov 01, 2016, 16:04 #94348

    TOF has come out with another gem, our destiny lies in our players minds, that's us fooked then, and nothing to do with himself ? of course not, there's nothing like getting your/his excuses in early, what a fooking fraud of a manager. wenger out.

  21. GS

    Nov 01, 2016, 15:02 #94347

    Jeff W : I agree with what you say, but as Wenger is going nowhere just now, and I support Arsenal ( Not Wenger) I , and maybe others live in hope that he may break the habit once and win the PL (No chance with CL) I always want Afc to win, just because I have no faith in Wenger anymore, sadly does not stop be wanting Afc too win. I will keep optimistic long after Wenger has gone...Not sure I can say the same for the AKB's.......COYG

  22. jeff wright

    Nov 01, 2016, 14:08 #94345

    It's amazing how we have never been in witha chance of a title win since 2004 under Wengo but are always contenders in November ! You would have thought by now that some would have sussed this out but nope every season their optimism in Wengo returns .Tunnel-vision ,light red tinted specs or whatever at graft in all of this .Believing though that serial flopper Wengo is going to see off more motivated managers is really just la la land nonsense.

  23. Alsace

    Nov 01, 2016, 12:50 #94344

    "As for Arsenal, they remain in the title hunt". No. They don't. We aren't in it and we won't be until TSOF is gone gone gone. He is really the only piece of the jigsaw still missing. No matter how well we are ostensibly doing, he doesn't have the right balance tactically between defence and attack, and we will be sliced open in all of the decisive games. You can't win the title without a solid defence, and we don't have one.

  24. Mark from Aylesbury

    Nov 01, 2016, 12:04 #94343

    If Maureen is halfway sensible he should keep an eye out on a the Information Inter job. De Boer is now the 9th manager to leave. Maureen could also increase the average age of his squad in Italy as he appears to mistrust young players. Think we'll beat Spurs by two clear goals.

  25. Bonzo

    Nov 01, 2016, 9:33 #94342

    Jamee - But you're Finsbury Joe, or at least sometimes. So it's you who writes about and loves the Spuds. I keep away from such matters. I think one of your personas supports Spurs.

  26. Bonzo

    Nov 01, 2016, 8:23 #94341

    Jamee - too much potato juice and lurking in bushes with your dogging mask is losing you perspective. When did Pepe say Spurs hoof it? Ps: how did your caravan perv party go?

  27. GoonerRon

    Nov 01, 2016, 8:11 #94340

    @ mbg - there you go again, having a go st Wenger for something he hasn't even done. I think Wenger would have won loads of trophies as Barca manager.

  28. GS

    Nov 01, 2016, 7:34 #94339

    Roy : As Wenger is going nowhere soon, optimism & hope is all some of us have left . If the right Arsenal team turn up, we should beat the spuds. Surely Wenger can get it right 1 season out of 13 and really go for it this season, the players are there , all we need is that bit of luck ( had some so far) and Wenger getting it right for once.....COYG

  29. mbg

    Nov 01, 2016, 2:05 #94338

    jj, it would take quite a bit of counting that (I doubt his AKB luvvies have, or will, or would tell us even if they had) and some other teams also that their messiah was supposedly headhunted for, I wonder if he wouldn't have stayed at a team where he was/is under no pressure whatsoever to win anything or succeed on the pitch, where he is allowed to do what he likes and get away with failure after failure from the club and fans alike without a peep of dissent from his bosses and wengerites luvvies and remained loyal to £9,000,000 plus every season (and all the former)where he's not worth even half of it (as a football manager anyway) and went to barca or one of these clubs supposedly after him how many Cups and trophies TOF would have won in that time ? they'd have been very easy counted indeed, a big zero i'd say because he wouldn't have lasted two seasons with his failed ideas and philosophy and under pressure with/from a proper owner and board and most of all fans who expect success and demand it and wouldn't allow or give TOF eleven seasons to try and bring it, no they would've seen through him straight away, and TOF f*****g new it. wenger out now.

  30. Ron

    Oct 31, 2016, 23:38 #94337

    I think we ll beat Spurs surprisingly easily. 3-1. Theyre due to lose. While their overall game is quite good, theyre hanging in there a bit and teetering on the brink of their first loss. The problem isnt just Kanes absence. They generally lack penetration and theyre quite slow and laboured in their build up. Its time they were put out of their misery. Its games such as up at OT where Wengo and Asl will do their usual annual bottle job. Their poorest teams have been seeing us off there for a decade. As a Club, Asl never have any fear of Tottenham. Tottenham in everybodys perception are just flaky old Tottenham, same as theyve been for the last half century and more. The Club by contrast is a withering trembling wreck at the mere thought of visiting OT though, however poor Utd may be. Same as when we go to the Bridge.

  31. Mark from Aylesbury

    Oct 31, 2016, 22:45 #94336

    Leek - the point being you'd be far better off trying to help your pals on the closed forum of untold then continually bitching about the Gooner. Much like Old Man Colesey who when drunk said the The Gooner would collapse. Luckily we've seen no more of him.

  32. Leek fc

    Oct 31, 2016, 22:37 #94335

    And your point being mark or should that be lizzy.

  33. Roy

    Oct 31, 2016, 22:37 #94334

    GS - Optimism about what's happened so far tempered with a degree of pessimism over whether Wengo can get his tactics right with the tougher games about to kick in, I think most of us feel that way. On that note I don't share your confidence about Sunday. I know the Spuds have not been winning, but I just have this nagging feeling that he will try to accommodate Ramsey from the start if fit especially if Santi is still not available. It won't work, and we'll get beat. Based on nothing but a gut feeling, though.

  34. jeff wright

    Oct 31, 2016, 20:12 #94333

    It's an interesting situation at the top of the table at the moment with just G/D and the odd point separating 4 teams. It's still early doors regarding to be arriving at any conclusions but you need a white stick and guard dog not to have noticed Conte's chavs have improved since losing to us .Albeit it was a game of two halves - so to speak with them gifting us goals like Santa in his Selfridges grotto giving away prezzies to children .Anyway where Wengo is concerned donkeys years of drudgery from him have numbed most supporters ,at least the normal ones, brains regarding any optimism. The next couple of league games will tell us more as for the Euro farce against Ludo I think that a game of Snakes and Ladders would be more fun .As it happens there will be plenty of snakes around on Sunday -Ivano will feel well at home.Along with Wengo ,Stan ( if he is there ) and the rest of the nest of vipers that pose as an AFC board.

  35. mbg

    Oct 31, 2016, 19:29 #94332

    ArseneKnewBest, thanks for you kind words mate, but as you know it's water of a ducks back, as I said before I've had it from professionals, I owe you one, not that you ever need my help or ever will against some of the amateurs and numpties on here.

  36. mbg

    Oct 31, 2016, 19:15 #94331

    jj, your right and how many others has he done that with, but he does have a good engine (when not broke down,and it should be better now for a while anyway after one of his regular MOT's)and remember we ARE ticking along nicely and the Welsh Jesus should be ticking over nicely now too.

  37. jjetplane

    Oct 31, 2016, 18:23 #94330

    Atwood & Walter must stay! lol!

  38. Mark from Aylesbury

    Oct 31, 2016, 17:49 #94329

    Mr Leek the Squeek- as you are always making out Untold is some near biblical offering whilst the Gooner is dying here are some interesting quotes. Robert (Poster) "ou’ve come up with random selective stats, including games played in October or December to “disprove” her. Seriously? Do a full analysis of all games played in November under Wenger’s reign. If she’s wrong, I’ll believe you. Until you do, I’ll believe her." Attwood "Robert yes you are quite right, I mixed up the authors – a foolish mistake. But I have answered before why I felt the calling out of the......(The fool slates off Amy Lawrence and it's not even her article desperate stuff from Attwood) Poster to Attwoods embarrassing offering. "Tony another pointless boll1x blog trying to make everything look rosy to your dozen or so posters from foreign lands.There seem to be more blogs than posts these days …" Looks to me Leek that Untold is dying. What comes around goes around and his attempt to silence dissent is killing his own site. Perhaps you should join it in a bid to keep it going.

  39. Mark from Aylesbury

    Oct 31, 2016, 17:31 #94328

    Jjetplane - I salute you sir, sadly my contributions never got past the censorship of Chairman Attwood. Go on Squeek get on their and tell the Untold freaks about how us Anti Arsenal Arsenal supporters ( Atwood's pisspoor description) are nasty rotters.

  40. jjetplane

    Oct 31, 2016, 16:59 #94327

    Bit chuffed MARKA as I was mentioned by name over on Untold for bringing posting /slavering into disrepute. Some bloke called Nigel called me a rotter! Brick is a right (wing) one with his UKiP joke book. Right (wing) colonial throwback. Love that ****ing site! - priceless!

  41. Mark from Aylesbury

    Oct 31, 2016, 15:01 #94326

    Jjetplane - careful you'll have Leek the Squeek claiming your obsessing about Untold. According to Squeek you're not allowed to make any comments regarding Untold. Meanwhile Squeek obsesses about the Gooner ending but continually writes in so helping it continue, whilst not making any contribution towards Untold where he is far more of a fit. Plus he and Brickfields could share giggly school girl humour together.

  42. GS

    Oct 31, 2016, 13:39 #94324

    The team has built a great foundation this season to go into November and beyond with optimism, 10pts from 12 in Oct & beating Chelsea. There is no reason not to attack the upcoming games from now till the new year, Wenger cannot start being cautious and looking for excuses ( Injuries, Internationals, tiredness etc) We all need to see Wenger get his team selection and tactics right, and get the points on the board and prove most of us wrong, Is he up for the challenge ?? ........COYG...Mash those Spuds

  43. jjetplane

    Oct 31, 2016, 13:38 #94323

    Untold's Atwood slagging off Amy Lawrence over an article she did not write! Let the great November wobble begin with a Scream! Pts 1 & 2. 3 was pants like the Ems move.

  44. jjetplane

    Oct 31, 2016, 13:23 #94322

    The old badge was good and GG looked well classy whereas Wengo just does not fit in but would be fine I guess at the financial helm of a faceless corporate behemoth. Hold the ****ing horse John! A team built around Ozil and the concept of mental strenght is pure AKB gold. The circus keeps on giving but we can agree with Leek who has stated 'Theo must go!' I reckon they should give Theo a new position as 'the voice of Asano!' - he could come on at half time dressed like a Prada drummer boy and perhaps even do a few sketches for the juniors with his mate Ollie. The future is Wenger. The future is Billy Smart's ..... Anyone manage to calculate how many trophies Bayern and Barca have picked up since Arsenal moved to a 'major food outlet'? ...

  45. IHA

    Oct 31, 2016, 12:42 #94321

    Great report as usual Kev. Well said Gooner Ron. In what sense is mbg an Arsenal supporter? I realise that many Gooners want a change of manager, but mbg hates the manager, all the players including those on loan, the directors, the owners, the style of play and most other fans. What does he like about the worlds greatest football club?

  46. anthony walters

    Oct 31, 2016, 11:41 #94320

    there are very few arsenal fans even the most myopic wenger supporter who don't have reservations about the upcoming fixtures given november has usually a poor month for us under arsene wenger and ourand our lack of a real title challenge for a decade but at least the squad is stronger than most of those years and koscielney has a partnership that has started well and looks strong .

  47. Ron

    Oct 31, 2016, 11:32 #94319

    FJs point is correct. The period from now to Boxing Day will test the mettle and determine the outcome of the Season. In the meantime, ive fallen into the mugs trap again and bought a ticket for OT on the 19th! At least its an early Kick off so time after to drown the sorrows in the pub before driving back. Its bound to be my turn to drive too. Always seems to be mine when going there? I suspect a 'fit up'!

  48. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Oct 31, 2016, 11:26 #94318

    We all know you're a WUM Finsbury Joe AKA Jamerson AKA whoever you are but the next two league games are very winnable indeed given the poor quality of the opposition.

  49. Badarse

    Oct 31, 2016, 11:02 #94317

    No trouble for Wenger on the horizon Finsbury spud yet can see long ball bores sours and Manure tumbling further down the table with their tedious bus parking display teams ho ho.

  50. Bonzo - Halloween Caravan Party

    Oct 31, 2016, 10:59 #94316

    Halloween Rockin! They did the mash, they did the monster mash; The monster mash, it was a graveyard smash; They did the mash, it caught on in a flash: They did the mash, they did the monster mash; Leekey the Zombie was having fun, inserting large objects up his bum; The monster party had just begun; The guests Jamee and Pete, dug up from his grave; All got down to the monster rave. The caravan was rockin', all were digging the sounds; Badarse in his chains, backed by his baying hounds; The coffin-bangers, were about to arrive; With their vocal group, 'The Arsene Wengo Five'; They played the mash, they played the monster mash; The monster mash, it was a graveyard smash; They played the mash, it caught on in a flash; They played the mash, they played the monster mash; The ghouls started groaning Wenger must stay; The potato juice flowed till the end of the day; Soggy digestives were the choice of surprise; As Jamee leapt into his coffin at dawn of sunrise; They did the mash, it was a monster mash; They did the mash it was a graveyard smash; They did the mash, it was a Monster mash..... Amos and BBA got down to a jig; Whilst Colesey looked for a grave to dig; Westie the Werewolf howled as he we chained to a bed; Jamie and Pete became the living dead; They did the mash, it was a monster mash; They did the mash it was a graveyard smash; They did the mash, it was a Monster mash.....

  51. Finsbury Joe

    Oct 31, 2016, 10:28 #94315

    According to the AKBs, results against the greats such as Swansea, Burnley, Sunderland, Hull amount to a title challenge! A bit like saying a win over Ludicrous makes them ECL challengers. Surely even the most intellectually challenged Wengerites have the ability to examine the fixture list, and in the next month or two, it is far from kind, it will be business as usual for wengers flops

  52. Wear Your Colours

    Oct 31, 2016, 9:39 #94314

    Very accurate report Kev. I was very impressed by Gibbs, I think he has the edge on Monreal at the moment. Good to get another three-points in the bank. Let's hope we continue our good form with a win in Bulgaria tomorrow. COYG!

  53. Bonzo

    Oct 31, 2016, 8:39 #94313

    AKB - Power Rangers £17.99...Available now! Gooner Ron - Special Power, turns into a flip flopper. Arsenal History power 4/10; Jamee - Special power, turns into a Thetan Warrior. Arsenal History power 2/10; Leekey - Special power, turns into super bore. Arsenal History power 1/10

  54. Fozzy

    Oct 31, 2016, 8:31 #94312

    Totally agree with Danny about Ozil. He and Walnutt are both luxury players who we could do without. Ozil shows no commitment, whilst Walnutt is useless. We only had one of them on view on Saturday which softened the pain a bit. Iwobi is not yet ready for first team footie and you could see immediate improvement when Giroud replaced him.

  55. Arseneknewbest

    Oct 31, 2016, 8:05 #94311

    Jamee, aw, goonerron - Lads, lads, lads - give it a rest will ya? How many times do I have to tell you that mbg is expressing heartfelt and wholly consistent views about a club that he clearly loves. Jamee is a known nutjob (aw and gr - you acknowledge this too right?) so best to leave him as the sole antipathetic voice against genuine dissent. You may not like mbg's substance - nor his style - but personally I have a great deal of respect for him for sticking to his guns and getting the point over on here that AFC's future (and present) is not best served by the current numpties running the club. Moreover, I have had numerous interesting exchanges with him on here about life pre-wenger. Jamee and his numerous other personality disorders know nothing about this because he's a twazzer-come-lately but aw and gr should know a real gooner when they see one. Je suis maguiresbridge - get off the geezer's back and stop bracketing him with the trolls - it's a cheap shot.

  56. mbg

    Oct 31, 2016, 7:58 #94310

    Yes I do hate AFC and have always had a soft spot for spurs Man U and Chelsea yet so do those who run this site so why should I be forced to change.Nothing in the house rules about being anti-Arsenal and being a black,gay retarded leprechaun with a todger the size of a midgets hair slide,don't you think I have trouble enough..

  57. jjetplane

    Oct 31, 2016, 1:36 #94309

    Really like Ramsay when he plays for Wales but he needs a new club because Wengo just brings him down. Iwobi is flagging already and will be next for a 'lay-off' ....

  58. Website Editor

    Oct 31, 2016, 1:31 #94308

    How dare anyone criticise mgb. He is our most loyal troll on here, slating out club because he has Aspergers Syndrome and we are too scared to deny a retard his fun at the expense of the integrity of our once great website. Leave the troll alone and let him post five times daily in peace!

  59. CT Gooner

    Oct 31, 2016, 1:11 #94307

    What I loved about bringing on Geroud was that we essentially put two up front, short fast Sanchez off Geroud. Maybe we could use a 442 type setup more, with granit and Ramsey in e middle, ozil and iwobi on the sides, Sanchez and Giroud up top. With our pace, I see nothing wrong with playing in a more direct way and ripping teams open. Teams don't tend to park the bus when they're losing....

  60. anthony walters

    Oct 31, 2016, 0:13 #94306

    according to various sources wilshire had his best game for bournemouth yesterday he set up a gilt edged chance that was fluffed lasted 90 minutes made a crucial tackle late on chasing back yet mr true arsenal fan picks up on the point wilshire never tackled their scorer even though it was far more the fault of the defender who shifted out of the way far too easily yet mr true arsenal fan picks up totally on the negative.even though jack playing as an attacking midfielder was busting a gut to help his team. good on you gooneron i love when we win hate when we lose and that's how fans should be.i still enjoy and look forward to games and for the most part so far the season has gone quite well so far but bigger tests are coming soon so let's see.

  61. anthony walters

    Oct 30, 2016, 23:51 #94305

    anthony i think wenger does change things late in games so criticism of that is probably a bit unfair it's whether he get's the balance of the side right in the first place and virtually never changing things before half time . also last season not enough players showed game managment skills or physical determination when needed.funnily enough i was player manager in a vets match yesterday and changed the formation after about 25 minutes .we won the match in the end but it was through a mixture of decisions keeping a really good back four together an excellent keeper,great team spirit and most of all loads of luck as we were dominated in the second half our keeper saved a pen 5 minutes to go we scored one last kick of the game.let's hope wenger get's it right .will he ?history of the last decade suggests not though as i previously stated our results against top sides have improved the last couple of years.we live in cautious hopefor the league i think but probably no hope in the champions league.

  62. GoonerRon

    Oct 30, 2016, 23:34 #94304

    @ mbg - "God help us with fans like these" - ironic coming from someone who criticises everything about our club, our manager, our players, who never says anything positive, who never gives credit when it's due, whose pathological hatred for Wenger is all-consuming, who refers to players you're supposed to support with childish and insulting nicknames, who revels in trying to suck the hope out of any supporter who dares to have hope. Some of what you say might be right and many might agree with you, but I was fortunate to be amongst 3,000 other Gooners on Saturday who sang their hearts out and enjoyed us winning, and I am truly glad there aren't many like you who only choose to view a single match through the prism of the last 11 years.

  63. anthony

    Oct 30, 2016, 23:18 #94303

    I like the plan b when necessary yet feel we should use a plan c more if after the a has failed and we can't get the b functioning.If you watch Barca or Madrid play they will often change from an a to a b plan if it hasn't worked after only 20 minutes,sometimes using a b and then reverting back to an a at regular intervals.The b plan being often shelved after 10 minutes and a c plan being used in the 3rd quarter of a game occasionally even using an a and b plan together and some using an a b and c plan simultaneously which can look quite muddled.I would like to hear other peoples opinions on this.

  64. mbg

    Oct 30, 2016, 23:12 #94302

    Sorry to break up the love in, should we have kept Jack ? did anyone see the smoking dwarf yesterday trying to keep up with clayton was it ? head up little legs going ten to the dozen falling further behind every second, not even in contention to make a tackle, even if had a trampoline or he knew how (the perfect product of wengers failed policy, philosophy)you couldn't make it up, may come down to mental strength, will that make a difference then ? have we got it or not ? you have to ask ? you mean to say or think we have ? or may have, since when ? it's suddenly materialised ? Oh I know, Lord wenger says/tells you we have even though the last eleven seasons shows, tells us, and proves different, so we must have, we haven't or never did or never will have it, and it will be proved again this season. You couldn't make it up. God help us with fans like these, heads still stuck in the sand among other places even after all this time.

  65. anthony walters

    Oct 30, 2016, 21:19 #94301

    paul ward i agree that is what wenger seems to think santi coq is what wenger sees as best .a fit wilshire would be a great replacement for cazorla next season if he stays fit by various accounts he was bournemouths best player yesterday but will he stay fit and get back to his best ?wenger seems to see him as a number 10 but i believe he is best taking the ball firward from deep.i spoke to a moenchengladbach fan recently he said as we see ourselves so far xhaka is quality but slow .it is all about balance .RCscYL

  66. Paul Ward

    Oct 30, 2016, 20:53 #94300

    Injuries and form obviously cloud the issue but my gut feeling is that Wenger still sees Coq/ Santi or Xhaka/ Santi as his two in defensive midfield when available. For me Rambo is fighting for a place on the right or left of the three behind Sanchez, with Walcott , Ox, and Iwobi. When you throw El Neny into the mix it is clear it is clear that we are well equipped in midfield , even if we lack a genuine Santi replacement ( should we have kept Jack?).Dont think squad strength will be our downfall this season, may come down to "mental strength ", have we got it or not?

  67. mbg

    Oct 30, 2016, 20:35 #94299

    All these combinations ( more commonly known as passing the ball) or tippy tappy, between fullbacks, wide attackers on flanks, wide attackers in midfield, attacking fullbacks, attacking fullbacks in midfield, attacking midfielders, attacking goalkeepers, attacking substitutes second raters always work well (and look)when mediocre third raters roll over and allow us to do it. wenger out.

  68. anthony walters

    Oct 30, 2016, 20:08 #94298

    gooneron i agree when ramsey is match fit he gives better cover for full backs in tough games than others it will be good to have him back in spite of his weaknesses of some poor decision making and over indulgence which is more of a problem in a deeper midfield role.whether he is good enough to be in our best 11 is certainly open to debate.

  69. GoonerRon

    Oct 30, 2016, 19:44 #94297

    @ Jude - I seem to remember the last time Ramsey had a run playing in a wider position it coincided with a really strong run of form. Wenger might not play him there but it's an option, especially in the bigger games where Iwobi/Ox don't protect the full backs as well as we'd like. His engine gives us that plus his movement in behind from a wide position can be dangerous.

  70. GS

    Oct 30, 2016, 19:34 #94296

    Don't think Ramsey is ready for 90mins yet, rest players v ludo , but put out strongest team v spuds , so at best Ramsey on the bench next week , but give him a good run out v ludo. We have momentum right now, let's not sit back v spuds, need to attack game like we did v Chelsea, lots to play for in Nov .....COYG

  71. Jude

    Oct 30, 2016, 19:12 #94295

    It's GoonerRon who's having a laugh regarding the rubbish Welshman, Ron. Apologies, mate.

  72. Ron

    Oct 30, 2016, 18:58 #94294

    Jude - i dont think ive mentioned Ramsey have i? In fact ive not mentioned him since i dont know when. Im not sure if its reading thats yr issue or just yr comprehension skills but hey, fill yr boots anyway fella.

  73. Badarse

    Oct 30, 2016, 18:42 #94293

    O ye WOR Mighty Ducks win the game Pass the ball perfect the play There's so much riding on your fame Men clad in armor win the day The crowds are grumbling they've all gone wild The stripes bad call has hardened your trial Yard by yard your penalties mass But you'll take the lead with a touchdown pass 86 yards with a kick return Your rival now should show concern We love your power your drive your speed The beer the bets the company Football Game day Phones be texting Tailgate fun scores projecting Simple fun that's life affecting It's more than manly testosterone That compels us to the game It's teamwork pride the thrill of the fight How the underdog pushed and overcame Sports and competition have always been a way of life Revealing the mighty but also the contrite Teaching lessons of brotherhood More victory together than alone we ever could So when we gather scream and shout Seemingly insane over a meaningless thing Remember this on Game Day proud When from the rest of life we simply check out Is it really so bad to drink too much With Oregon's O displayed Colored faces worshiping the Duck When they fumble we yell O F_ _ _ Be it victory or cruel defeat There's more to this than meets the eye It's about families, lovers and the best of friends Gathering to play to laugh and to cry Game Day for the Oregon Duck Of our team we're so damn proud As a fan have you made the cut Or resigned to just miss out A Child Again In Love On a river bank and holding a flower, Plucking the petals one by one, There I am Standing amiss behind a tree, Staring at me as if I don’t see you There you are. I ask you a simple question Why is life so complicated? And you walked out slyly Because you didn’t know I knew you were there And you answered If it weren’t, there would be no love But I don’t have that anyway I reply And in your head I know you’re thinking Oh but you do, You have it from me But I sat there so obliviously I didn’t ever tell you But I loved you too That was the only secret That I ever kept from you And when we chased Each other in the creek You didn’t ever tell That you were falling in love with me And we were just children They would always say But children are the wisest In a special kind of way They see people for who they are And they don’t know corruption As personally as they will grow up to But for now they look into each other’s souls And choose their friends for life You see it all started as children When we all had our sight But now we are blind To the untruthful ones We could sense it Like we could sense that winter was here And that a big snow was coming But now we are so desperate For love because it’s not so easy anymore And we forget the simplicity of the emotion If you love someone, let the love grow Let it blossom like it knows no limits And indulge in life on that feeling That you were a child again in love In the stillness the sun smiles spanning wide her golden yellow teeth blowing wind is shadow quiet she is waiting waiting waiting.... Waiting and feeling.. slowly the stillness trembles! It is disturbed... little waves begin to creep and crawl.. Unabash! She goes! Brave and graceful to take the ride... Daring and excited to play with the waves... Up. Down. Left. and right sways... A rollercoaster along the foamy surface of sea She was not taken aback by what she lacks... An arm bitten by a stark sharp shark long ago Instead, She pursues the waves Fearless to stand - tango with the wave curves! a ballerina with a surf board moving ahead.. ahead ahead each tunnel wave... balancing on side and top of the wave.. power hugging made by the currents.. mind blowing love affair with the tides!!! her missing arm not forgotten but a precious welcoming history in embracing the world with her inspiring story of not ever ever quitting! of keeping the faith afire with each rough tough situation! of trusting Gods' reasons and purposes to everything.. of making the most even when something is lacking!!! a conqueror of weaknesses! a wave dancer of water tides and beyond! She is My Mystical Black Rose Did I tell you the story of my mystical black rose? Well let me In my troubled nights I took comfort in the scenery of my old window One tiny sparkle always shone its way through the darkness, embracing my sorrow Till the night I decided to visit my sorrow's whisker in the belly of midnight I wrestled through the bushes sacrificing my blood on the alter of their sharp leaves and thorns Till my eyes was paralyzed on this black rose that collected drops of dew in its petals and lightened them with the moonlight; that mysterious sparkle now lay bare in my eyes and in my reach for the first time. I'd never seen black so beautiful, but as much as I wanted to pluck it for myself my heart wouldn't let me, for I was not in love with just a black rose but everything else that made it sparkle my sorrows away; the moon and the dew. As I left with doubt clouding my mind, I saw its sparkling drops trickle down its petals. Can a rose cry? For I live now never to see it sparkle again ever since that night. I'm different now, beyond need of sparkles for my nights but I always walk to that old window waiting for my mystical black rose to reach my heart again. Even though I might see myself a gray haired man starring in my old window, I'll wait, just patiently wait, for my black rose to come alive again. And this time, just this time I will not think twice. Hypocrisy of the Village Flock As the seasons of my life changes, glorious it may not be!! Valley bells summons the flock to chapel. Heavily polished Pews squeak, as Village flock take their seats. Distant ghostly voices ring out with such shallowness. “Chapel roof raised with such false faith” No attention paid to the sermon. The congregation floored by jealousy, as each man mirrored by his own status. Women competing, against their hats and frocks. Jealousy worms weaving through their gowns, feathers in hats, quivers as the coven moves through the vestry door. Minister excited to the jingles of the collection box whilst being passed around and around. my soul lays upon a bed of thistles. Whilst the thorned crown compresses the thoughts within my head. Lurking within the shadows of the cross . Whilst the gruelling over the sacrificial lamb So-called reputable men “ that should not be” The pitch pine pulpit, creeks with despair. Parishioners best clothed with shiny shoes, “all hypocrites congregate here”!! Layer upon layer of blasphemous faith, create a stain on uneasiness upon the so-called sacred walls . Each Private hymnbook worn by sweating hand, fidgeting tell- tales of fear through ware. Each before God and un- easy to what conscience they happen to bear!! “ If this is faith, then I want no more,” All false faces glance, finally and for the last time. I exit through the memories, OF that stained chapel door.good old Arsenal

  74. jjetplane

    Oct 30, 2016, 18:07 #94292

    Wonder if all these righteous AKBs will still be sermonising in a month's time when it's back to trying to break into the top four again? Amazed there is no sermon from Rev Perry on this Sunday when Arsenal are looking so well equipped for the Quadruple no less according to some bloke in Dubai .... lol!

  75. anthony walters

    Oct 30, 2016, 17:34 #94291

    kc i agree almost entirely for me coq elneny is our best away partnership .i just hope arsene picks horses for courses and not play all the attacking midfielders..i am not convinced arsene will not resort to his tendency to accomodate ramsey cazorla and ozil leaving the back four unprotected far too often .it is sad some fans hate wenger so much they'd rather we lose than win.wenger has got a top squad together now but his deployment of those players is so important.

  76. anthony walters

    Oct 30, 2016, 17:19 #94290

    bard the point i exactly agree with you.it's only my opinion but the midfield in tough away games should have a base of coq/elneny or xhaka coquelin maybe ramsey in a wide position or even starting ahead of ozil .i just see us being overrun and pressed at liverpool or city if he accomodates too many attacking midfielders.

  77. Danny

    Oct 30, 2016, 16:44 #94289

    Arsenal were fortunate against sunderland. this tip tapPy soccer is not going to win anything plus we need a WC striker. The sad about this season is that you can see it unravel soon and the frog will get his extension. what a loser. when Sunderland scored , we started to panic a bit and of course Wenger did his normal subs. what a tactical move., bollocks its was his normal 70min timing. why didn't he change it a half time, when we need some physical. P.S OZIL is not world class and is lazy

  78. Jude

    Oct 30, 2016, 16:33 #94288

    Ron: Brilliant idea. Let’s shoehorn Ramsey back into the first team for the next two league games – Spurs and United. He’s been out for 10 weeks, he's clearly off the pace and rusty, and he’s not a wide player. The only thing he’ll offer is a reminder that there's no room or need for him in the first team. A bit of a ballast? You’re having a laugh.

  79. KC

    Oct 30, 2016, 16:12 #94287

    At GoonerRon exactly right mate could not have put it better myself. It\'s not just the anti Wenger obsession that make certain people believe that\'s more important than our scores it\'s the childish pathetic posts that mean nothing and are so unproductive. If people hate him so much that they would rather we lose why not just stop posting and have nothing to do with the club and forums?

  80. KC

    Oct 30, 2016, 15:59 #94286

    Bard/ AW the midfield is interesting, it's where I wish Wenger would adapt for particular games. We certainly need Coq, he is the most athletic defensive midfielder we have, if fit Wenger will play Cazorla, personally I am a big fan of Elneny, with both him and Coq we far more defensively secure. At homes games against so called lesser teams there is a good argument you only play one destroyer, Granit has great vision but I don't think he is fully adjusted to the premiership. Don't be surprised to see Ramsey play wide right next weekend. I really think our left back position is a concern both Traore and the Swansea right sided midfielder destroyed Monreal and Gibbs is not the answer. Big fan of Bertrand could never understand why CFC let him go.

  81. GoonerRon

    Oct 30, 2016, 15:44 #94285

    @ mbg - there are pro-Wenger "trolls" on here who get a lot of **** for putting their love of Wenger before the club, yet you do exactly the same but it's your hatred for Wenger that comes before your supposed love for Arsenal. Do you want Arsenal to beat the Spuds next weekend?

  82. GS

    Oct 30, 2016, 14:35 #94283

    Happy with 3pts , Arsenal played with handbrake on for 70mins, thankfully picked up when 1-1, with some good goals. Good to see goals coming from a sub for a change . Let's hope we bash the spuds next week and keep the good run going .COYG................Leeky has no view on the game, he would just like to say "Wenger must stay ".

  83. mbg

    Oct 30, 2016, 14:20 #94282

    They displayed their authority alright Ed in tippy tappy, boring or what ? My God MOTD or maybe it was Sky had to speed it all up so we could see the goals, running around like little dwarfs left right, back forward, back, left, right, looking good against a team with relegation written al over it, who don't know if their coming or going, and the bearded carthorse getting on the scoresheet says it all. wenger out.

  84. Bard

    Oct 30, 2016, 14:13 #94281

    AW; the midfield debate is an interesting one. It depends whether you set up to win the game or to entertain and also whether you play players in the their proper positions. To date we entertain so pack them all in if we can and see what happens. To my mind if you play Santi, Ozil and Ramsey in the same midfield you are far too light in the defensive areas. The same goes for playing Ozil and Wally, neither can tackle their way out of a wet paper bag so youre two light defensively before you start. Both the next two games will be huge midfield battles. I would play Granit if available, Coq, Ozil and Santi. You can bet your bottom dollar Wanyama will be all over Ozil.

  85. Toe Knee Add Ums

    Oct 30, 2016, 14:00 #94280

    Good games from Ox, Eln, Gibbs, Giroud go to show what squad depth and comp for places does. Remember when Fab, nasri and RVP etc were all way too comfortable with their place in the team?

  86. Ron

    Oct 30, 2016, 13:58 #94279

    Ideal for Giroud. His type of opponent. I like Giroud but the debate has raged too long about him. Hes a good lad v tripe or average teams and theres nothing wrong with that. In fact, most players are at their best v such teams. Very few are consistent v the best teams. The whole debate over Giroud is unfair to him as its basis is that AFC have lacked a quality striker since Henry was in his pomp. Giroud never could and wasnt ever bought to fill that particular void. Hes a great squad man at a Club of Arsenals size. He d be a first pick at any team sub top 6 Clubs.

  87. anthony walters

    Oct 30, 2016, 13:35 #94278

    good post kev from what i saw i haven't seen the second half yet motd highlights apart as i was playing in a friendly vets match but we clearly missed giroud's aerial presence coming off the bench to break down middlesboro.agree entirely with you guys iwobi needs a breather and there is a good shout gibbs is better than monreal at the moment even in the latter half of last season it was a good shout.as i said on last post midfield in key games away from home is biggest conundrum personally i would only have one from cazorla ozil and ramsey in the middle.massive game sunday though of course away game in europe first.

  88. David

    Oct 30, 2016, 13:28 #94277

    All we can say for certain is that arsenal look certain to finish 2nd, 3rd, or 4th. Impossible to say any more than that. Long live sexy football.

  89. KC

    Oct 30, 2016, 13:13 #94276

    Good report Kev, Iwobi certainly requires a rest, the not given pen could have been a major decision luckily it was not but Atkinson should be taken to task over such a disgraceful decision. Still believe the Ox requires a stronger personality to succeed a good assist but still not enough end product, I thought Ozil was poor his finishing was very tame, Sanchez was superb, Coq and Elneny were both strong and reliable. We need a left back if Southamptons could prove his fitness we should make a move. November will be massive I want to be optimistic sadly our recent history stops me but here's hoping.

  90. Bard

    Oct 30, 2016, 13:08 #94275

    Good report Kev. Job well done although there was the usual panic for about 20 mins before Giroud came on. Thought Gibbs had a good game and Giroud does what he does against poor opposition. Having said all that Sunderland were abject beyond belief. 2 tough fixtures coming up which will give us a better perspective on where we stand. The game against Ludicrous is done and dusted so he can play as many reserves as he needs. Whether he will or not remains to be seen.

  91. GoonerRon

    Oct 30, 2016, 12:24 #94274

    Much more zip to our passing which was good to see after Boro. I agree with Torquay Gooner that Iwobi has faded in the last month (as young players can often do) and could do with a rest. I wouldn't be surprised to see Ramsey play in one of the wide positions in the next two league games to offer a bit of ballast in the big matches. The encouraging start continues.

  92. WeAreBuildingATeamToDominate

    Oct 30, 2016, 12:10 #94273

    Good win though it took Sunderland equalizing to wake our players up again. You can only beat what's in front of you. So on to next week.

  93. Torquay Gooner

    Oct 30, 2016, 12:01 #94271

    Fair report Kevin. Whilst there does not appear to be one outstanding team in the league this season, there is one clearly abysmal team in Sunderland. They have become the Aston Villa of this league and deserve relegation this time around. Two fine finishes from Giroud and yes he does take his fair share of flak(I criticize often enough) most teams would like to have him on the bench. I think Iwobi needs a rest and the Ox still flatters to deceive. Spurs don't look anything special and if we play with a decent tempo we should end their unbeaten start.