Arsenal Audit: October 2016 review – part 2

Injuries, rotation, the ‘Coquorla’ pairing, the British core and prospects



Arsenal Audit:  October 2016 review – part 2

‘Coquorla’ congratulate Theo


Injuries
Laurent Koscielny was risked by Monsieur Wenger’s own admission, following the Liverpool debacle, but thankfully without any ill-effect. Aeron Ramsey wasn’t so fortunate in the 14 August match and was left on after flagging up a hamstring niggle at half-time. A soft-tissue “injury that will require two or three weeks” morphed into an October need for a complete pre-season and his eventual return off the bench on 29 October left one of the stars of the Euros unavailable for two and a half months. Arsenal Audit’s concern over Monsieur Wenger exacerbating Arsenal’s poor injury record by not listening and taking unnecessary risks appears to be prescient. The manager has, however, recently denied that has overplayed players. “We test the fatigue level of everybody, for example I tested Alexis because he played two games in South America. Sometimes I rest him straight away after [the internationals]. I played him the other day against Swansea so I thought I would take him off when it is possible. We consider every case individually. Also, some positions are more demanding.” Given Alexis’s past history in the red zone, this must be a new - but very welcome - development.

Rotation
For the home tie against group make-weights Ludogorets Razgrad, Monsieur Wenger at last (League Cup excepted) pursued sensible small-scale rotation – without, in his own words, upsetting the balance of the team. Or perhaps, after last season’s Panathinaikos debacle, being accused of arrogance and complacency? Kieran Gibbs and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain were rewarded for some solid efforts and cameos by starting. But might not little used new signing Lucas Perez, have been given one of the two starting forward regulars a rest? Happy to operate anywhere across the frontline, his cameo which left him with a return of 2 goals and 3 assists from two substitute appearances, suggested he wouldn’t unduly imbalance the team. And, with Granit Xhaka suspended for the following 3 matches and Francis Coquelin returning from injury, might he not have started alongside the industrious energy of the little used Mohamed Elneny? Perhaps it might of lead to a little more having been of left in the collective tank against Middlesbrough?

It was widely thought that Granit Xhaka, a £35m new signing and first defensive midfielder Arsenal have paid for since Invincible Gilberto would quickly usurp the internal solution returnee from Charlton Athletic. After the Middlesbrough match, Francis Coquelin had started 6 Premier League matches and played for 504 minutes, Granit Xhaka 4 (2 due to Francis’s injury), and 408 minutes. Allowing for game time, their interceptions and tackle rates are fairly similar, albeit Granit wins more. Francis wins more duels, especially aerial ones, but Granit makes twice as many clearances. Their accuracy rates are the same (89%), but, as expected, the latter also makes many more passes and many longer. Granit creates more chances and has a good long range shot, and goal, to his name. But Francis has prevailed in Monsieur Wenger’s team selections over his expensive 48 capped international team mate.

The ‘Coqzorla’ pairing
Earlier in the season, with an unprecedented set of mid-field options to call upon, Monsieur Wenger addressed the - for many surprising - lack of game time Granit Xhaka and Mohamed Elneny were, thus far, getting. He explained that for him it was “all about pairs who work together … You know, Coquelin and Cazorla have worked well together”. The partnership excelled in 2015, before injury put paid to it and Francis Coquelin certainly seemed less effective with his longer injured partner missing almost all the second half of the season.

By asking his diligent compatriot to operate much higher up the pitch (in marked contrast to Alex Song’s post-Fabregas frolics of his own) Monsieur Wenger’s contre-presser has allowed Francis Coquelin to use his ball-winning capabilities and athleticism in front of the penalty box at the opposite end if the pitch and force transitions in much more threatening and creative areas (and then return to deeper defensive duties). But, it surely now seems even more perverse that no one was brought in to supplement Coquelin, before Mohamed Elneny and Granit Xhaka? For Coquelin has welcomed the additions to the squad and thrived on the genuine competition for his place that the ageing Mathieu Flamini could not provide.

What Coquelin lacks in offensively creative passing and movement, Santi Cazorla more than makes up for. As Monsieur Wenger explained, ahead of the Sunderland match. "When Santi is out we miss the pass from deep midfield to high midfield, security on the ball, getting out of pressure. When we are getting closed down, he gets you out of tight situations and creates openings for the team. There is as well a good understanding between him and Mesut Ozil.” Cazorla’s safety in possession in dangerous deep waters also means he can evade the in vogue high-press a lot easier than many. As Charlie Eccleshare has noted, the difference between Arsenal's results with him in the team and when he's missing is stark. Since the start of the 2014-15 season Arsenal have won 65.5% of the Premier League matches in which Santi has started (36 out of 55), compared with 40% when he has not (12 out of 35). That's a difference of 2.1 points per game compared to 1.6, or in other words title-chasing form versus Europa League form. Cazorla is third in Arsenal's Premier League rankings this season for assists, chances created and touches, and second for pass accuracy. His ability to move the ball quickly and forward, not sideways, also gets the best out of Mesut Ozil by getting the ball to him in dangerous areas before opposition defences are set. The two players have passed more to each other than any pair in the whole of the Premier League this season, and since the start of 2015-16 season the German international has averaged 70% more goals or assists per game when Santi is in the team compared when he is missing. Remarkably, the 5’6” Spanish international, who will be 32 in December, is also third in the rankings for distance covered, at 11.2 km per 90 mins.

Cazorla cost Arsenal £10m from Malaga in 2012, Coquelin £850,000 as a 17 year-old in 2008. Last season Arsenal coped with the pairs absence in December, until the 0-4 defeat at Southampton and then New Year turning point that saw Arsenal’s title pretentions implode again. This season, Arsenal's two poorest league results (the home defeat to Liverpool and goalless draw against Middlesbrough) came when Cazorla did not start. Unfortunately for the energetic and industrious, but less creative, Mohamed Elneny – those were his first two starts. Thankfully, the team left Sunderland pitch much happier and Mohamed enjoyed a decent match too.

British core
Theo Walcott
continues to hit the headlines and with his poached goals against Swansea and longer rage strike against Ludogorets, added three more goals to his overall - and very varied - tally for the season – the top Englishman. Whilst, Alexis edges him by a goal and assist in the Premier League (having had an extra 26 minutes on the pitch), and they are equal on eight goals in all competitions, Theo’s tally of tackles, clearances and interceptions continues to far outstrip his season-after-season hardworking colleague. Returning to a point made last month, it really is testimony to how the expectations have changed that one of the pioneers of the high-pressing game, the highly exacting Pep Guardiola, has even dropped Aguero because of his lack of work off the ball.

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain has seemed to find some inspiration from his Arsenal and England colleague. Whilst he can still struggle for consistency and confidence, and he remains unlikely to be an automatic starter unless others are unavailable, his improvement in form has seen him securer on the ball in dangerous areas and, at last, adding significantly to his previously woeful goal and assists tally. Remarkably, his 5 goals so far this season is his best seasons’ tally.

Having done a decent job when called upon, Kieran Gibbs at last got a Premier League start and to very good effect. As the Editor said, he would have been deserving of a start regardless of Nacho Monreal’s injury. His form, like Alex Iwobi’s (albeit he has the excuse of youth), has dropped a little and both him and Oxlade-Chamberlain would be deserving of a start against their old local foes.

The England trio were rewarded with their returns to the England World Cup qualifying squad… if the honour can be called a reward.

Prospects
This review of October has been the most positive Arsenal Audit since it started in 2011. The main reason for that being that, prior to going monthly this season, it was written after either the traditionally disappointing January window, when injuries and squad deficiencies went unaddressed, or another title challenge had imploded long before the season end. Nevertheless, Arsenal are unbeaten in 14 matches and avoided the October banana skins with 6 wins and a draw, 16 goals for and 3 against in all competitions. The drawing blemish was replicated by rivals Manchester City and Tottenham Hotspur on more than one occasion and Manchester United’s 37 failed attempts to breach the Burnley goal at Old Trafford demonstrate that, with a little luck, any well drilled Premier League team can frustrate. Manchester City, returning to their goal-scoring ways returned edged Arsenal off temporary top spot leaving three teams on 23 points and Chelsea one point behind Liverpool in fourth. Tottenham 2 points behind could draw level with Arsenal next Sunday. The Premier League has so far been every bit as competitive as expected.

As Monsieur Wenger acknowledged, “We now have some difficult games coming up, we have a difficult November, so by the end of the November we’ll know more about ourselves, but the desire and the mentality is great in the side. We have a great togetherness and we have quality as well, so they are good ingredients, but we have to show that we can do it week in, week out.” November has not always been kind to Arsenal and they face three defining matches in succession. And, for a very long time, successive defining matches have rarely gone well for Arsenal at any stage of the season. Last of the three is the home tie against Paris Saint German which as the potential group decider will test Arsenal’s poor record at home in the Champions League and poor tactical discipline. First (ahead of which this article was submitted) they must beat Ludogorets away and Arsenal Audit isn’t taking that match for granted. The Bulgarians, and Brazilian’s, showed enough in the first 40 minutes at The Emirates to suggest that with the backing of a partisan crowd they could be more of a threat than some think. After all, in the last 10 years Arsenal have lost away to Dinamo Zagreb, Olympiacos twice, Shakhtar Donetsk – and also thrown the top of the group slot through resting players. The manager has some tricky decisions to make in team selection.

Before PSG Monsieur Wenger faces his two biggest bogeys at once: Jose Mourhino and Old Trafford in the Premier League. The Special One is looking anything but special these days and his expensively thrown together squad of misfits languish 8th in the table 8 points behind Arsenal and with a goal difference of just +1. But nothing would improve Mourhino’s unhappy life in Manchester more than tactically outwitting Monsieur Wenger yet again. For the only people that seem to dislike the Arsenal manager more than him is the site’s anonymous and ultra-negative collective – ‘Arsenal AUTHENTIC’ they could be called. Wenger’s a fraud, Wenger OUT! Wally’s a fraud. Wenger OUT! Alexis as a false 9 is a fraud. Wenger OUT! Arsenal Audit’s a fraud. Wenger OUT!

First up the manager faces an undefeated Tottenham who have stalled a little as the absence of Harry Kane, but whose return is imminent and ill-timed, eventually told. Their young and demanding manager has yet to lose to his senior North London rival in the Premier League. This time he will face an Arsenal with a high-press of their own. The return of Santi Cazorla, helping to dodge Tottenham’s press, Theo Walcott and Hector Bellerin after his ‘little incident’ at the end of Champions League training, would enhance their chances as would a clean bill of health for any key players who are required in Bulgaria.

Two points from the two Premier League matches wouldn’t be the end of the world (although another home derby draw would be disappointing). Losing the derby at home would. As would yet another League defeat at Old Trafford and to Mourhino (especially given his current struggles). Four points, or even six, would suggest that to the more experienced and deeper squad, stronger spine and modern tactics, Arsenal have also finally acquired some of the new found mental strength the manager believes they have. On or before Wednesday 23 November, we will know a lot more about that and their pretentions for the season…

Sources:

On injuries:
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20160818/team-news-ramsey-iwobi-koscielny
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20161013/team-news-ozil-giroud-and-ramsey

Fatigue testing:
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20161028/wenger-my-approach-to-resting-alexis

Missing Santi:
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20161028/boss-what-we-miss-when-we-miss-santi
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/10/24/arsenals-draw-with-middlesbrough-shows-santi-cazorla-is-the-play/


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  1. mbg

    Nov 08, 2016, 0:57 #94591

    Instead of listening to sound advice from the Editor, Moderator, manager of the site and also several other posters mr selfrighteous, saviour of us all, has now taken it upon himself to preach a long winded sermon to the editor in fluent gobbledegook giving him advice on how to run his/their site, what a complete knob, is it any wonder he was made to look such an idiot, and he try's to tell us others are ill, you couldn't make it up.

  2. Mark from Aylesbuty

    Nov 07, 2016, 19:23 #94582

    IHA - I happen to also be a watch nerd , if you go onto watch sites it's just as aggressive in fact I mentioned to my wife that men in sheds turn into vicious key board warriors. I think you need to get a bit more realistic in regard to your idealistic view of the Internet. Unfortunately you came on this site trying to teach us all a lesson and the man who is meant to be bullied gave you a fair dose of what he gives others.

  3. Gooner conscience/IHA

    Nov 07, 2016, 14:28 #94569

    Dear Website Editor. Thank you for considering me, but your courtesy is unnecessary. I have read many posts like the one from Jamerson above. I ignore them, because they don’t appear to come from a sane adult, and responding to them simply encourages him. This individual appears to be very ill, and I think the endless discussion of him is probably making him worse. Of course, you are right to remove his comments, as they are very offensive, and cannot be allowed to stand in a public forum, however sad the illness might be. I notice that when he appears to make ‘sane’ posts, you leave them up. I’m not sure if this is a good idea, as it confuses the issue. If you are interested in my opinion (I suspect you are not), I think you need to do something about this website. Your ‘house rules’ seem very sensible, but they are being widely flouted. You should perhaps consider closing the comments section altogether, or introducing some system that allows you to block troublemakers, or at least properly track who they are. You have several troublemakers on this site – I think your obsession with Jamerson is blinding you to the other problems that you have. I have shown this website to a number of non-football people in order to try to get an objective reaction to what is on here, and they are horrified by the aggressive bullying they can see going on. I have (a little) sympathy with your problems. As football fans we are ‘trapped’ with ‘our club’, and some Arsenal fans passionately want a change of manager. This is particularly upsetting if the manager you don’t like, lasts a long time, as the situation simply becomes more and more frustrating. Changing football team is a big taboo in our society, so what happens to people who are unhappy with their club, but still love football? From reading this site, it appears that they look for a ‘victim’ on whom to take out their frustration with bile and aggression. They don’t seem to care if that individual has mental health issues, in fact his more stupid comments simply make him a better punch bag. If anyone tries to object to the bullying, the bullies simply allege that the objector is the ‘victim in disguise’, and turn on the objector (I sense from some of the comments that I may not be the first person who has been ‘hounded’ in this way). A good system really, if you like that kind of thing, it certainly allows the bullies to continue their activities - some on here don’t even bother to disguise the ‘playground bully’ language. I should clarify that I don’t wish to imply that all, or even most, WOBs behave in this way, the ones I know are sensible, reasonable and pleasant – frustration really is no excuse for what I see on this site. The anonymity of the internet can encourage people to say awful things without the normal constraining factors of society. I hope that some of the posters on this site are actually pleasant people when met in reality, rather than cyberspace. I don’t know your view on all this Website Editor. Perhaps you don’t see what is in front of your eyes because you are too close to it, or have simply become accustomed to it? Perhaps you enjoy it, or are angry yourself (I hope not), or think that the things written on this website are perfectly reasonable? It is a shame that the good name of the Gooner should be dragged down in this manner. You appear to be complicit in the ‘if you don’t like what someone says, accuse them of being Jamerson’ game – or perhaps you are just genuinely baffled by the multiple identity games that are being played on this site? Personally speaking, I am taking a (possibly permanent) break from posting on this site, which is both unpleasant and time consuming, as I have to constantly respond to absurd allegations that are made against me (or perhaps I am just naiive enough to fall victim to wind-up merchants?). Good luck, and I sincerely wish improved health to all those who appear to be unwell. COYG.

  4. Moscow Gooner

    Nov 07, 2016, 9:24 #94550

    Deju vu from the Liverpool game really: we don't handle the high press very well; we gave them too much space and time to build from the back; we went to sleep at the beginning of the second half. I just didn't see the same intensity and commitment from our boys as we saw from the other lot. (One of the quietest NLDs I've ever been at (in 50 years or so of watching) as well: blame the midday kick off?)

  5. mbg

    Nov 06, 2016, 23:56 #94549

    My last post included an answer to jj also.

  6. mbg

    Nov 06, 2016, 23:44 #94548

    jw, audit ? oh that gobbledegook writing up top, dunno mate it appears every now and again, yes the tonking from the in form Arsenal those late of ludo slayers with even better than messi in the side, and to think we nearly fell for it too. You couldn't make it up.

  7. mbg

    Nov 06, 2016, 22:30 #94547

    KC, yes it is clear, a decent fooking manager, and that has been debated for years and ceased being debatable anymore.

  8. KC

    Nov 06, 2016, 22:03 #94546

    At AW, why is the Ox so bad? It's simple stuff he cannot do, the majority of his crosses are shocking end product very poor. I really believe he is mentally weak, he has the build the pace and yet disappoints so often. We were vey good for the last 20 mins of the first half which does cause a question of concern, what was the half time conversation! Wenger talks about nerves but it's November not April it's his job to ensure confidence and a go for the throat mentality sadly for me it's his biggest downfall he allows the team to play slow and within themselves to often.

  9. Bonzo

    Nov 06, 2016, 19:21 #94545

    From chairman Jamie - it's always the refs fault, it's always long ball players fault, it's always someone from a different religions fault. When will the obese Jamerson ever realise the fault lays Within himself. Jamerson Arsenal supporter 2000 - 2017. He will be gone and not missed by the Arsenal family or I suspect his own.

  10. jeff wright

    Nov 06, 2016, 18:52 #94544

    Arseole Audit .By Nobby.A. Fried. Monsieur Wenger felt confident before the game with Tottenham that we would win it .Confidence and spirits were high after the fabulous run of recent results according to him .Sanchez looks world class and Ozil worth an hefty pay rise when his current contract expires. After we scored the opening goal courtesy of a great header from a Tottenham defender with three of our players off-side Monsieur Wenger celebrated in his customary one off the wrist fashion and looked very satisfied that his prediction of an home win would be proven correct.Unfortunately the referee spoiled things by awarding Tottenham an undeserved penalty that every pundit in the world knew was a wrong decision.So in the end we had to settle for a point at home but no great damage done with just Manchester United away next up .Monsieur Wenger, who made clear donkeys years ago that he was happy to finish second for 20 years,can feel confident that once again there is no hope of that ambition being ruined by him finishing first .Good old Arsene

  11. Paulo75

    Nov 06, 2016, 18:31 #94543

    Didn't deserve the win today, too many below par which was surprising and disappointing. Also surprised to see Iwobi in the starting line up ahead of AOC, although the Ox was poor too when he came on. One of those games, if you cant win then don't get beat I suppose. Spurs now unbeaten in last 3 seasons at our place.

  12. jjetplane

    Nov 06, 2016, 18:05 #94542

    Most pundits including Wrighty saying it was a good game and also that the Totts were probably more likely to win it. Arsenal have had no real drive for 12 years so what is going to change that I don't know. The Ems comfort zone will be saying let Chelsea and Liverpool get on with it. All we want is CL qualification and a new contract for Wenger. Wally and Ozil are bordering on the ridiculous. Egos in a vacumn while the real football happens slsewhere. Whatever happened to the tonking the Totts were supposed to have recieved. The Totts must be the more amused as Wenger blames the ref when basically Arsenal are just not very good. Wondering when Bellerin will take his final exams? lol!

  13. anthony walters

    Nov 06, 2016, 17:57 #94541

    fair result two good sides .sloppy start to second half cost us latter stages of first half we played well and could have scored a couple.our wide players struggled a bit today though the two that went off were far better than chamberlain who was hopeless. theres going to be loads of twists and turns in a tight league i think whilst our squad is the best for years do they have the mentality and game management?it remains to be seen.

  14. GS

    Nov 06, 2016, 17:50 #94540

    Slightly unfair to single out Theo for having a poor game, most of the team were poor , no drive, no pace , we just did not get going . Would have preferred subs at half time , but that's not Wengers style . Looking like another groundhog season, and with chavs & pool not having any euro distractions , Arsenal need to step up big time to be champions in May .

  15. Bard

    Nov 06, 2016, 17:29 #94539

    I agree Gooneron Coq and Granit looked decent but surprise surprise Wally was invisible. Where was the player who supposedly had an epiphany a few weeks ago ? We looked what we are Im afraid, that is bang average when we play the big teams. All this talk about 'this could be the year' is all smoke and mirrors. The spuds were there for the taking and we bottled it in usual style.

  16. Mark from Aylesbury

    Nov 06, 2016, 17:27 #94538

    Gooner Ron - A reasonable summing up. I would have liked to have seen Xhaka dive for that Iwobi cross.

  17. GoonerRon

    Nov 06, 2016, 17:16 #94537

    I thought it was quite a strange game, in that neither team really settled into a firm pattern of play or a prolonged period of pressure. In truth it was a bit scrappy for the most part, with both teams largely struggling in possession. I thought Xhaka and Coq had good games but other than that we were largely subdued. I guess the positive is Citeh dropped points and we're still very much in the hunt.

  18. John F

    Nov 06, 2016, 17:13 #94536

    "We were too nervous" claimed Wenger.We have host of international players who have experience of playing in big games yet had jelly legs.Teams that are well prepared for matches and know what is expected are generally not too nervous as they are concentrating on their jobs.Does this mean our team was not well prepared for this game?

  19. KC

    Nov 06, 2016, 17:10 #94535

    It's clear we still miss something. We need more goals in the team Iwobi is struggling and sadly Chamberlain is not the answer. We appear to struggle to play for ninety minutes. The Kos challenge was not necessary and that changed the dynamic. It's a missed opportunity, but perhaps highlights why Wenger struggles to get over the line, he cannot get us to really be consistent in enough big games. Constructive criticism is great on forums leads to good debate.

  20. Mark from Aylesbury

    Nov 06, 2016, 17:04 #94534

    Jamee your such s whining enfeebled effete waste of a supporter. Always someone's else's fault just like the story of your life. Arsenal couldn't pass a ball today, absolutely hopeless. We got lucky with the own goal. Walcott had a smashing strike and that's it.

  21. mbg

    Nov 06, 2016, 16:51 #94533

    Even when you really fancy them to win and stuff the spuds and indeed even expect them to, (after all we're supposed to be on a good run)you see what happens ? they let you down and f**k it up (but of course a lot of us wouldn't have bet to much on a win yesterday anyway)how many times has that happened over the years ? (and there will be plenty more examples of that over the season to with an old past it manager in charge) and we're all supposed to still get behind the little nice boys, especially wenger no matter what ?? give him our full support even for now ? even until the rest of the season ? yeah right, not a f*****g chance. wenger out tonight.

  22. CB

    Nov 06, 2016, 16:30 #94532

    We might be down to 4th but we are still top of the points per pound spent league. And that's what matters. Isn't it?

  23. jjetplane

    Nov 06, 2016, 16:22 #94531

    Klopp must be getting a sore arm with all that puching after every goal. Probably lost the energy for the big hugging sessions too. Must be tough at the top. What would you say Leekie?! You still with us. Mesut must stay for a million a month. He can stick a whole fist in his gob then. Anyone remember that goal he scored lol!

  24. Mark from Aylesbury

    Nov 06, 2016, 16:05 #94530

    Jamee - I've never followed that particular yellow brick road. I know you had a father figure (you've gone on about this a few times) but as he was a in a coterie of child beaters and he was also Jimmy Savilles best mate I'm not sure it's helped you as much as you think.

  25. Bard

    Nov 06, 2016, 16:05 #94529

    Poor game. We were awful for the most part. None of the big timers showed and Kos's moment of madness cost us the game. Rock on November.

  26. mbg

    Nov 06, 2016, 15:50 #94528

    jj, your right that super human effort from Ozil and the rest of the worlds finest coming back from 2-0 to a bunch of third/fourth raters ( after showing such complacency in the first place) being 6-0 up already the menteel strength and great sreeritt really caught up on them and took it's toll today, there were no defenders being put on their arse followed with a wonder goal I wonder why, ah well there's always the mighty Bournmouth on the 26th. wenger out tonight.

  27. Bonzo

    Nov 06, 2016, 15:34 #94527

    Question; The biggest loser? Answer: Jamee

  28. Arseneknewbest

    Nov 06, 2016, 15:21 #94526

    Dismal game. Our passing was awful, and the fans inside the stadium added nothing. No ambition from either team really. At least the audit in about a month's time will be mercifully brief. Coq and Xhaka-demus the only two to emerge with any credit. Oh, and the highlight for me was seeing some genuine progress on our bench: the runny-nosed former manager appeared to get his anorak zipped up in one fell swoop this afternoon - huzzah!

  29. jjetplane

    Nov 06, 2016, 14:49 #94525

    Nothing new about Asano not turning up even though they had an extra day recovery although the titanic (sic) effort to beat Bulgaria's finest and of course the goal that has propelled Ozil into the 300thou a week bracket will of course take it's toll. Only listened to it on the radio while preparing food for the masses but everybody saying it was a good game and it sounded energetic enough. It's upto the home team to back up the pre match squawkings and as per usual Asano fall short. Ooh er Liverpool 2 up! and it looks like a Conte v Klopp season from hereon. Arsenal should still make top four but supporting Wenger any further is a betrayal of all that Arsenal once stood for. Probably too late anyway as well Asano FC sounds about right. Anymore 0n Bellerin's new career in marketing with football at the Food outlet as a sideline. lol!

  30. GS

    Nov 06, 2016, 14:26 #94524

    Very poor game from 2 average sides (on the day) Afc big players did not turn up, both teams lucky with a point .......onward and upwards for Arsenal. spuds , same old going nowhere fast - THFC , always in our shadow ........COYG

  31. jjetplane

    Nov 06, 2016, 14:22 #94523

    What a performance from Mesut again! Interesting that Bellerin is doing a degree in marketing while the pressure is off playing at a club such as Arsenal. Anyway - how are things shaping up. Conte and Klopp are driving the PL machine with their dramas and the under performing Totts are still more than a match for Asano. Hilarious how some believe the spin ....

  32. mbg

    Nov 06, 2016, 14:18 #94522

    No guessing who has popped up on TV straight after the game to try and tell us (those that will listen and believe him anyway) how good he and his little dwarfs are playing and how it's all down to his adopted daddy, CL Prem my arse. wenger out now.

  33. Bonzo

    Nov 06, 2016, 14:05 #94521

    Err Jamee and Squeek ..... I think it was a bore draw on our way to third. Jamee you appear in pain is it some sort of pustulating hemorrhoid ?

  34. Smithy

    Nov 06, 2016, 9:45 #94520

    I hope Santi is there too as he makes our midfield tick when it's tight and congested. Wanyama will look to leave his foot in today and slow the play.

  35. GS

    Nov 06, 2016, 9:44 #94519

    Jamerson : why don't you do one , your ramblings are not wanted . THFC always in our shadow . Goodbye you are the weakest link.

  36. Paul Ward

    Nov 06, 2016, 8:03 #94518

    Agree with the Audit about Santis importance to the team. However we are going to have to find a way of winning without him as injuries and age start to catch up with the little magician. If he is out I would play Xhaka deepest , with Coq just in front, does make you wonder if we should have only loaned Wishere out till Christmas, as he is the nearest we've got to Santi in the squad.Hoping for a high tempo start today, put them on the back foot early and our extra class should tell, come on you reds.

  37. Website Editor

    Nov 06, 2016, 8:00 #94517

    Gooner Conscience / IHA - I'll leave Jamerson's post until after the game today so that maybe you'll understand why posters respond to Jamerson in the way they do. And that post is 100% from him. Whether or not you are another side of his split personality posting from a different IP address, I am still not certain... Other posters, for now I'd ignore both in case IHA is in fact simply Jamerson. If you do believe that IHA is a separate individual, then respond to his football related comments by all means, but I'd leave the 'political' stuff as this whole IHA / Jamerson thing is quite possibly a shark-sized piece of bait.

  38. Jamerson

    Nov 05, 2016, 22:54 #94516

    I can see us giving the spuds a hiding of a lifetime tomorrow and quite rightly so.Those tedious long ball anti-footballing fools have had it coming for years.I can see the old four by 2 spud loving deviant Finsbury Joe trying to twist it as usual with his gay boy mates Bonzo making up his silly camp 'it aint half hot mum' seedy tales,and his sad mate Arseneknewbest trying to save the world with his lefty bollards getting all offended because the crowd start calling the sours a bunch of brown hatters.Then to crown it all off we'll have new boy IHA getting all emotional because he hates being called a woopsie,well if you live a godly life and stop giving into your carnal fleshy desires maybe you won't have such a bad Goonerconscience.

  39. GS

    Nov 05, 2016, 18:57 #94515

    Massive incentive in tomorrow's game , need to end spuds unbeaten run , extend our lead ahead of them , and following the chavs win tonight, knock them off the top ......Massive - COYG .

  40. Deighty

    Nov 05, 2016, 18:24 #94514

    Jeeez, is this fella still subjecting us to this crap. Far too much spare time on his hands. Find a hobby instead ffs.

  41. Bonzo

    Nov 05, 2016, 14:47 #94513

    Jamee - Billy Goat Gruff is coming after you and is going to get medieval with your Arse!

  42. jjetplane

    Nov 05, 2016, 12:57 #94511

    Quick scroll and exit. It's all yours Jamerson/s .....

  43. mbg

    Nov 05, 2016, 12:43 #94510

    And here it is part 2, part 2 of what I don't know, i'm sure it will be taken just as seriously as the last one. wenger out.