David Dein on Arsène’s life away from Arsenal

Extract from updated version of ‘Arsènal: The Making of a Modern Superclub’



David Dein on Arsène’s life away from Arsenal

Cover of the new edition


A new expanded and updated version of the classic Arsenal book, ‘Arsènal: The Making of a Modern Superclub’, by Alex Fynn and Kevin Whitcher, published by Vision Sports has been released. Here is an extract from one of four new chapters, in which Arsène’s great friend David Dein talks about Arsène’s life away from Arsenal…

Putting great store on loyalty – behind his infamous ‘I did not see it’ comment was a reluctance to rebuke his players in public; a self-deprecating line which he has trotted out to good effect over the years to shield them from criticism and take the brickbats on their behalf. Yet he suffers agonies in private. David Dein observes that, “Arsène doesn’t go out when we (Arsenal) lose. When we book reservations up the road, the restaurant knows that if we’ve lost the game, it’s cancelled automatically. So they look at the results and cancel the table. Because (as Dein has learned from past experience) it’s not a dialogue, it’s a monologue. When we speak to him he doesn’t answer, because he’s in his own world. It hurts and it does still hurt, and that’s why he’s a good manager.”

For Wenger tomorrow is another day. For retrospective analysis with Boro and a heart to heart with David and another opponent on the horizon to prepare for. However, had the 2014 FA Cup Final been lost the intensification of the cutting words and recriminations that would undoubtedly have poured down in torrents, may have persuaded him, ca suffit, enough is enough. With upheaval on the domestic front, Arsenal, always the centerpiece of his life, had come to dominate it as never before in the last year or two. Alone for the most part in a high gated residence 300 yards from the old family home in Totteridge, he leads a Spartan and for the most part solitary existence. Waking up at 6.30 he will work out in his gym for 45 minutes and in the evening go for a run or a bike ride. In between he will do what he loves best. The first piece of kit he puts on is his stopwatch, then it’s out onto the training pitch with his charges. As David Dein says, “Arsène is captive to football. He’s a prisoner of his own making. He’s the most professional, most dedicated, most intelligent manager I have ever met.”

Dein also points out that the best second hand car to buy, if you can afford a top of the range Merc or Lexus, would be Arsène Wenger’s because it hasn’t been anywhere. More precisely, apart from the occasional trip to the Emirates, it goes to London Colney and back. 20 minutes there in the morning and 30 minutes back with the rush hour traffic and then the driver is home for the rest of the day, with hours of televised football to look forward to. He is more likely to be seen in the local supermarket than in a West End nightspot and when spotted will cheerfully chat, sign an autograph and pose for a photo. Nights out are not a priority, once a month – invariably to fulfil a charity or sponsors' request – would probably be his limit, David Dein having long since given up trying to persuade his friend to accompany him to the theatre, Dein's other great passion in life.

When he first met Arsène Wenger, David Dein was immediately struck by the thought, 'Arsène for Arsenal'. The club's future was written in the stars. It was destiny. But even he could not have envisaged that his beloved Arsenal would turn out to be Arsène's life work. Indeed, it may not have happened at all.

‘Arsènal: The Making of a Modern Superclub’, was last updated in 2011, and a revised version, with four new chapters, has been published to take account of the five years since including the two FA Cup trophies. It is available to Gooner readers from the publisher’s website for £5.99 if you enter the code ‘AW’ on the checkout page.


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  1. mbg

    Nov 14, 2016, 17:41 #94679

    I see Kane is stalling on a new contract at the spuds( I wonder has TOF been alerted) not that it would make much difference as he'd only want him on the cheap anyway, and anyway i'd say he has the same sense as that other Englishman Vardy, hope it's alright to post at this time, unfortunately some of us have a days work to do at the same time most days, (and usually have one done before we get a chance), and have to wait/rely on tea breaks, and can't just crawl out of our pits any time of the day, or night we feel like it.

  2. mbg

    Nov 13, 2016, 16:54 #94668

    And I see where that other manager who can talk a good game and always has a lot to say Coleman reckons the Welsh Jesus would get into any team in the world, yeah right obviously on the wacky bacy himself.

  3. mbg

    Nov 13, 2016, 16:32 #94667

    TOF's spin department is in full flow yet again ref Chris Smalling, apparently OGL has been alerted (whatever the fook that means) although I can see where he'd need to be alerted alright, and I can certainly see where he'd be interested in him, another player who wouldn't put his body on the line for the cause always complaining and pulling out over every niggle, who top managers like Maureen have no time for and don't want, the kind of player/players top managers and clubs love to sell to others,(especially wenger and Arsenal) the kind of weakling TOF loves, yes he'd fit right in. wenger out.

  4. Bonzo

    Nov 13, 2016, 15:21 #94666

    Jambie - I'm getting worried, you can't keep Leekey zipped up in a holdall with a pool ball in his gob without causing serious risk of harm. Free Leekie! we need to here "Wenger must stay" lick, lick, slurp..

  5. jeff wright

    Nov 13, 2016, 14:18 #94665

    The beard makes Wally look like a garden gnome and his musings have become too Wengo( yawn) like and with the old French fraud having lost all credibility now days Wally's views have become surplus to requirements. Also bullshine merchants trotting out tired excuses are not needed when results such as the 3-0 trouncing of Strachan's pretty in pink feeble Jocko's have been achieved. On a more interesting and pertinent note Ozil is said to want to rejoin Jose , who is a big admirer of him and even employs top strikers so that the little pussy can pass the ball to them .With a big increase in wages to boot it's a no brainer what Ozil will do when he gets the chance,ask I'm a gunner for life, RVP about it.Also surely Wengo's( yawn) ,I'm happy to finish second or third or fourth for 20 years, policy will, as in other cases before , add a bit more spice to the stew.

  6. mbg

    Nov 12, 2016, 20:15 #94664

    jj, that's a mystery mate, has wally not been giving Gary as much loyalty as he has TOF ? or has Southgate sized him up and seen through him so quickly, and prefers someone who can actually do both play and talk a good game.

  7. jjetplane

    Nov 12, 2016, 19:11 #94663

    Can someone please explain why Theo is no longer the voice of England? Maybe he could say something about America before he joins Stan in the states along with Mista Arsene in their proposed soccer adventure .....

  8. mbg

    Nov 12, 2016, 2:16 #94661

    He hasn't brought this intelligence he's supposed to have to the field of play very much over the last eleven seasons then, and it certainly hasn't rubbed off on many of the players either especially smoking jack, obviously back on the wacky bacy with his latest gaff, god help us if we'd had little p****s like him in the trenches.

  9. Website Admin

    Nov 12, 2016, 0:56 #94660

    We all hope that when TOF finally leaves, it is also the end of mbg and he fuks off too.

  10. Paul Ward

    Nov 11, 2016, 19:55 #94659

    Think we've all heard enough about the Dein/ Wenger love in- special relationship to be honest. All I'm interested in is the here and now, can Arsene deliver this season or not, the glory years of 98-04 have been done to death and just aren't an interesting topic any more.

  11. jjetplane

    Nov 11, 2016, 18:17 #94658

    Untold humbly admit that some things are even beyond the power of their first class investigative journalists. :ove when Atwood does this spin just so posters will write in saying Mr Tony, Mr Walter you are my only reason for living slurp slurp ..... Today everyone is ignoring him and I bet he is as livid back in his posh village as Wally is in Belgium. ****ing love that site!

  12. mbg

    Nov 11, 2016, 17:39 #94657

    Well he does have enough of the theatre every week David, usually comedy's.

  13. mbg

    Nov 11, 2016, 12:36 #94656

    Even harder to believe when TOF has been dining out on past glories for eleven years now.

  14. Ron

    Nov 11, 2016, 10:19 #94655

    CG - the books a con now like everything else about the Club. The first book 7 -8 yrs back was pretty good as you say. Now, they bolt on a few thin chapters of tripe every few seasons and sell it again for 18 quid or whatever the price is now. You ll get it for a couple of quid off Amazon in a few mths. If not there, charity shops will have it for 50p soon enough. Thats where my original came from.

  15. Ron

    Nov 11, 2016, 10:08 #94654

    Man U ready to pay Ozil his 250 K it seems. Get em on the phone i say and agree a deal today.

  16. Made Up Stat

    Nov 11, 2016, 8:12 #94653

    Due to minor alleged indiscretions that need not be given any further examination, St Arsene des-nil-Eurotrophies led a hermits life in his humble cave. Each dawn he would rise, stretch his limbs in exercise and embark on spreading the good word on how thoroughly great his own thoughts were. But still this wonderful man had time to mix with his fellow beings, agree with them on how great he was and give thanks for the continuance of his paltry allowance provided to him by his benefactor, St. Ankroenke de Ranchowiggo, Trumpania.

  17. Bonzo

    Nov 11, 2016, 7:35 #94652

    What I'm picking up here is too much solitude is not a good thing. For Wenger rattling around in his big house, thoughts preying on his mind, not anyone to bounce ideas off. One can see where the issues have built up. Then you have Jamie all alone in his caravan. Worn out Betamax porn tapes and an increasing array of catalogue purchased rubber implements.

  18. mbg

    Nov 10, 2016, 21:05 #94651

    And can you imagine the players doing that either ? especially now ? the lovely smelling fancy dans cancelling a night out after been beaten, and/or embarrassed ? you think they'd care either ? not a fookin chance they'd be getting jammed in the restaurant and night club doors with the rush to get in to celebrate, and eat drink, bop, smoke (and shag) the night away.

  19. mbg

    Nov 10, 2016, 20:45 #94650

    jj, yes reservations been cancelled if we've been beat, does Dein really expect us to believe that ? he's as bad as his great mate if he does, and if there is/was a shred of truth in it I bet it doesn't happen now, turn down the chance to be fawned over and have his ego massaged by yes men, in a fancy restaurant (and all on expenses no doubt) I wouldn't be surprised if he has luvvies or cronies ringing ahead for a special menu or dish for that night such is his ego, after all does he not do the same at the club.

  20. CORNISH GOONER

    Nov 10, 2016, 19:46 #94649

    I think all fans who can remember a pre- Arthur Webster life would agree that he is way past his sell-by date. To add another "sin" to the long list everyone has mentioned, the man is a terrible SNOB & doesn't want to do the rough & tumble, dirty hands stuff that everyone else, including Pep, does & personally I find that if anything more objectionable than his other flaws. I bought this excellent book when it was first published but now feel it devalued. Paddy Barclay's book on Herbert Chapman however will stay on my bookshelves.

  21. jjetplane

    Nov 10, 2016, 19:13 #94648

    So Wenger started his football career eating snails and sausages before moving on to Miso soup and leedle noodle. The trajectory sees him turning up at Highbury with a boiled chicken and leeedle broculi and Evian water. Come the Ems (sic) we move to all out food outlet with leeeedle football. The idea that Wenger would turn down a free meal is laughable. You have been conned .....

  22. GS

    Nov 10, 2016, 17:32 #94647

    mbg: the book title is for the tourist and Jonny come lately brigade , real Gooners know where we are at , we are a modern super business , calling us a superclub is a bit OTT. Some will say look at CL qualifying , but does that really count , making up the numbers ??

  23. mbg

    Nov 10, 2016, 16:50 #94646

    GS, top comment and post, I've always thought that title was misleading, that is indeed what a super club is all about, a top manager, winning trophies, top trophies, and honours, and feared by all others, the best, and only when those are achieved should we be called one and referred to as such, we haven't got or are not any of those, and thanks to wenger and his ways and finger prints we'll probably never be.

  24. Exeter Gunner

    Nov 10, 2016, 16:15 #94645

    If Wenger truly hating losing above all else he'd do all he can to avoid it, e.g. try some in-game management once in a while when things are going against the team. But how many times have we seen him sit in his hands instead and watch the game run away. His 'philosophy' trumps his hatred of losing, that's evident, and as others suggest, he's got less to lose by losing than managers in less secure jobs (i.e. every other manager on earth).

  25. mbg

    Nov 10, 2016, 16:09 #94644

    And he's still living in his own world,(and he thinks everyone else should too) maybe if he would have/and would put less store on loyalty to the carthorses and second raters over the years and now, and told them (and us)what he and us could and can all see instead of making excuses and lying, and like proper managers take the appropriate action (dropping, shipping out, replacing, etc, etc,)instead of standing by them and preserving for years with inflated contracts they were nowhere near being worth he's have gotton and been given more respect from fans, but I suppose the problem with that would have been (and no doubt TOF knew/knows it too) they wouldn't have showed him the same loyalty back and stuck by him when he needed/needs it instead of speaking out, when he and the club and them were/are being humiliated and embarrassed on the pitch, but when they're still been picked and played never losing their place after them, no matter how crap they play they'll'they'd show loyalty to anyone.

  26. jeff wright

    Nov 10, 2016, 16:04 #94643

    There is no doubt in my mind that Wengo is a sad loner a control freak and an obsessive individual.Arrogant to extremes and stubborn as a mule .He treats supporters with contempt as we saw with the infamous thumbs up gesture aimed at some dissenting ones who were voicing their displeasure with the clown last season at the end of another boring home game that had gone pear-shaped.I believe that things will go pearshaped again this season for Wengo and only a touch of good fortune in some home games in the Prem as so far prevented this from happening already.

  27. Arseneknewbest

    Nov 10, 2016, 15:47 #94642

    The idea that wengo is almost unique in hating to lose is garbage I'm afraid. That he feels defeats more than other managers is just risible. Does David Moyes for example feel a bit more light-hearted, for instance, than Weng purely because he's not considered as deep nor as committed as our so-called manager? No, of course not. It points to his arrogance that Dein thinks only this Arsenal manager can truly hate the taste of defeat. Fergo, Moaninho, any other manager you wish to name (even the corrupt fat sam) ALL hate losing. The players less so in some cases I would argue (compare Ozil with Coquelin for evidence of differing attitudes to losing). Christ, even I DEEPLY hate losing when I manage arseneknewbest junior's U12s team. And I'm not motivated by 8 million semolians (sp?) a year. In Weng's case, you could argue the opposite is likely, i.e. that he's been in the job for soooo long and presided over so many defeats that he's habitually de-sensitised by losing, and given that his position is not in jeopardy, any defeats might actually mean less for his job prospects than they would for others. Gnerally the pen picture is one of sadness, suggesting an inability to network and deal with others. The emerging view from the US is that Trump and the half-dead Rupert Murdoch are of similar disposition, not to mention sad, greying Jose Mourinho in his over comfortable dull manchester hotel room. Dubious company for a dubious manager. Dein is a conundrum for me: I'm genuinely in two minds as to whether he was good for us overall considering the spivvy wheeler-dealer image that suggests he has about as much personal integrity as his eventual successor Mr Gazidis. Kevin and Alex - thanks for the review - very thought provoking. Alex - I still dip into my copy of "Heroes and Villains" which was a great read.

  28. Ron

    Nov 10, 2016, 13:47 #94641

    Hi Cyril - you think that way as you recall when those derbies were white hot, many yrs ago now. For the majority of those players, Tottenham/Arsenal is just another game. Each Club could be from the other end of the Country. For a derby to have fervour there has to be local roots and feelings in there somewhere for the players and in the crowd, ling since gone from that fixture. A high proportion of the fans arent now Londoners these days and lets be truthful, 'the Emirates' is an underwhelming place to be. The away games are by far the best, inc the local derby.

  29. cyril

    Nov 10, 2016, 13:26 #94640

    Will give this book a read. I too am disappointed about the game on Sunday. A really flat day it was. Atmosphere was poor , KO time beer etc .. I am a big Ozil fan but felt let down by him on Sunday. For me he didn't drop in to help the midfield enough or at all. Wanyama and Dembele bossed the whole affair. WE made Wanyama look like Vieira. I would have him all day. Mind you my mate says Ozil played well, so who knows.

  30. Ron

    Nov 10, 2016, 12:57 #94637

    Theres nothing wrong with AW being a little reclusive but reading that, could it be that his love of the more solitary life works against him in managing the Club i would ask? Maybe his intensity about football blinds him a little bit? I dont perceive AW as an anti social chap at all. Hes clearly a bright bloke and i can respect his lifestyle of keeping fit and avoiding the english habit of believing that going out drinking and eating all of the time is mandatory. I just have a sense of him being a little too remote and as such his interactions with those he manages might be stunted a bit? Could be why hes seemingly gripped by the 'philosophy' of football rather than being pragmatic about it as most managers are? I doubt greatly he has much in common with our average footballer, many of whom can barely utter a discernible sentence of any note.All of this i think could actually be preventing him from being the Coach that ideally he d like to be.

  31. Bard

    Nov 10, 2016, 12:05 #94636

    Thats a really sad portrait. All that dedication and not an awful lot to show for it. The man needs a crash course in life.

  32. Mad Monk

    Nov 10, 2016, 12:01 #94635

    Now that all the emotions have faded after the disappointment of the NLD I think proper Arsenal fans should be made aware of the lunatics from Untold, they are not fan's they have no link with my club they have never experienced home games let alone going 200 miles away on a Tuesday night they are people who will eventually destroy us. The editor T Attwood is a middle class prick who's 'friends' don't like the match day experience of the NLD and believes BT Sport smuggle anti Wenger banners into the ground so they can broadcast it, he believes that the FA will do anything to stop AFC winning' he believes GG and all of his player's were garbage' he believes that the famous back 5 did not help Wenger achieve anything and just recently he believes Liverpool sold Andy Carroll for 50 million ( it was Torres you dick) This man is dangerous as he spouts the most incredible garbage and has a growing congregation of fellow conspirators. Whilst he poisons the minds of Arsenal fan's the club will stay on the safe side of the road cruising along without ever achieving or reaching the winning post. What I saw last Sunday and what he is defending beggar's belief, if any self respecting Gooner is happy with that performance then we are finished as a football club, can someone please explain Walcott to me? Can someone please agree that Ramsey is a greedy self centred **** who slows the game down to his pace (?) and glad to see Ozil grab the game by the scruff of it's neck ( I'd like to grab his neck) we buy so many midfielders that we have to loan them out and he will not spend the 60 million or so on a world class striker to make a statement to the whole of Europe. Untold will twist all this to make out that I am wrong and everything is rosy and our savior Arsene Wenger should sign for another 3 years God bless him xxx it's so sickening it makes me puke

  33. GS

    Nov 10, 2016, 11:47 #94634

    Book Title is misleading, don't think we are a " Modern Superclub’. A Superclub to me is one ref silverware, and whats in the trophy cabinet, along with global support not what's on a balance sheet. Granted , we have the global support, but that's about all.

  34. jeff wright

    Nov 10, 2016, 11:27 #94633

    Yeah, but this idealistic view of nothing but Arsenal of Wengo that Dein portrays was before the tart in Paris affair that wreaked Wengo's marriage came to light. Since then we have seen that he runs a one man ( natch!) company that deals with football related money making matters in LA and is engaged in doing TV work for French TV commenting on les bleus games. Albeit his tactical in- put is said by critics to be minimal .Just a lot of old Wengo really.He knows a lot about Brexit though.Then there are the French sponsorship deals and of the ones with the football agents such as the signing of Keystone Kos that was rather protracted coincidentally at the same time that Wengo was doing his extra-curricular activities with the younger part time rapper cum waitress in Paris. So all in all I think I will give the dedicated follower of Arsenal Arsene line a swerve.The bit about his motor though looks about right.You couldn't make it up.