Result – Un point. Performance – Nul points

Online Ed: Arsenal blow opportunity to top group v PSG



Result – Un point. Performance – Nul points

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If someone suggested to me that Edison Cavani was under the influence of some Chinese gambling syndicate to ensure PSG did not win against Arsenal in their two Champions League matches this season, I could believe it, so many gilt edged opportunities has he squandered in the pair of meetings. Let’s face it, on the quality of chances created, the French side should have taken six points instead of two from the Gunners in these group fixtures. As it is, their away goals last night should ensure they top the group. It is difficult to imagine they will not dispose of Ludogorets at the Parc des Princes in a fortnight. So ultimately, Arsenal’s fortuitous draws merely achieved an element of self-respect. They will make no difference to their finishing second in the group, given that the other two sides have managed to win two points apiece. What price Barcelona in the last 16?

Incredibly, last night, courtesy of a penalty after a dive from Alexis, and an own goal, Wenger’s team could have actually won the game. However, one thing we have seen from recent defensive performances is that there is no way on earth this team is going to progress when they come up against a more potent attack in the qualifying stages. The headline on the official website is a Kieran Gibbs quote - 'The team is more resilient than before'. Uh? Fortunate, I will give you, but resilient?

Granted, Arsenal are undefeated since the first game of the season. That is laudable. However, in matches against Liverpool, champions Leicester, PSG (twice), Chelsea, Tottenham and Manchester United, the record is won one, drawn five and lost one. So eights points from 21. Certainly, staying unbeaten is a good habit for winning cups, but in terms of the Premier League, two draws is worse than a win and a defeat.

The team selection rewarded Olivier Giroud for his contribution at Old Trafford. The problem of late, is that Arsenal often look toothless against the better teams with Alexis as the central striker. So Giroud was worth a punt on that score, but things didn’t look any better. The combination play does not work against decent opposition. Before the penalty at the death of the first half, Arsenal had zero shots – either on target, wide, or blocked. Impotent. By the end of the match they had mustered four attempts on goal, just the one on target… Giroud’s penalty.

So the Alexis as centre forward experiment seems to have hit the rocks. Giroud we all know about. Arsenal have £100 million to spend and could have spent it in the summer. Wenger did buy Lucas Perez, but he’s injured and didn’t figure heavily before he was. Danny Welbeck is another Abou Diaby in terms of availability, so can’t be seriously considered an option (and United were happy to let him move on anyway, which tells you all you need to know). So Arsenal are unlikely to win enough matches without splashing the cash on proven goalscoring quality, or waiting for Perez to turn into the next Thierry Henry.

Arsene Wenger spent most of the game yesterday passive on the bench. Yes, Arsenal are still in contention for all the honours. Yes, they have proved difficult to beat. But the manager can see it for himself and is slowly withdrawing. His team lack the wit and drive to outsmart defences too often. He thought he had found the solution with Alexis as the main man, and for a while, it did look like it could be the answer. But time has told. The Chilean is surely going to get injured before long anyway, and whether or not he can maintain the energy that is integral to his style of play remains to be seen, but given the amount of football the guy has played, pessimism is understandable. Looking at Wenger himself, his body language, it really does feel like end of days territory. I think, finally, he might have privately admitted to himself that he has run out of ideas.

Antonio Conte came to Chelsea, let the players prove the existing system worked, then, 3-0 down to Arsenal, changed things. They now sit at the top of the table. Granted, Conte, with no European commitments (and now an exit from the League Cup), has time to work on the training ground to instill his methods. Critically, he has players able to adapt. Coaching. Instruction. Drills. Arsenal’s training sessions are about close control, quick passing in tight situations. Do they even prepare set pieces? Innovative free kick routines? The Gunners don’t make great use of scouting reports on the opposition. Back in 2006, the manager did not take a close look at Barcelona until the day before the Champions League final. That’s arrogant. The team play to express themselves and Wenger’s idealistic football more than they do to ensure they win matches. But last night, there was no pace, no zip and the opposition were technically superior.

So you get Aaron Ramsey, a creative player, in central midfield with Coquelin. When Cazorla plays in the role, the team are more dangerous because, creatively, the Spaniard is two footed, better at passing the ball and more likely to create problems for the opposition. Ramsey, although heavily involved, will often lose possession. His inability to close down quickly enough last night led to PSG’s opening goal. Better to have played Xhaka instead of Ramsey surely. And if you must play Ramsey, stick him on the right side and drop Iwobi, who has been struggling of late. Notably, Theo was benched after his no show at Old Trafford, although the Ox, who at least has a bit of determination to take on players from wide, remained on the bench. I have no idea of what physical state Mathieu Debuchy is in, but if fit, is surely a better option than Carl Jenkinson at right back. The latter failed to mark Lucas at the corner from which PSG equalized and Iwobi hardly covered himself in glory on the post. Ironically, the young Nigerian was due to be subbed, but the manager did not want to make the change until after the PSG corner. Why? He is an attacking player?

At least, going forward, there are a run of fixtures that should give the side the opportunity to build some confidence, get a run of wins. But ultimately, this is starting to look like one of those seasons where Arsenal will slowly slip out of the title race itself, concentrate on a top four finish, get knocked out in the last 16 of the Champions League, and have a stab at winning one of the domestic cups. Some fans believe that’s good enough. Some accept it isn’t but have faith in Arsene Wenger to be the man that can bring back better days. And some are simply waiting and praying for next summer with the hope that we can all move on and at least try something different in terms of a manager. Oh to have had Diego Simeone in the technical area last night, because you know what? It feels like the passion has gone and we are just marking time.

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  1. mbg

    Nov 25, 2016, 14:38 #95009

    And of course there are those who will be absolutely delighted with the point. wenger out.

  2. Bonzo

    Nov 25, 2016, 10:11 #94998

    Jamee- you pretend to be women online, you pretend to a Homosexual online, some of us think you also dress as a woman and you send Larry Grayson stylee emails about Theo. By your reckoning that Lake of fire is going to swallow you up. Ps: Hello to all our supporters, whatever gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity. None of us care (apart from 1) where your from or who you are. The Arsenal is the thing.

  3. Dartford gooner

    Nov 25, 2016, 10:09 #94997

    Nurse nurse Jamerson requires his medication.

  4. mbg

    Nov 24, 2016, 23:45 #94992

    Tony Evans, CORNISH GOONER, excellent posts.

  5. Rob

    Nov 24, 2016, 23:43 #94991

    The really frightening point is that this :- "Some accept it isn’t but have faith in Arsene Wenger to be the man that can bring back better days" is actually true. Surely the painful point is that apart from the Chelsea game - a notable and pleasing exception - we simply haven't performed against the top teams we have played this season. True we have only lost once. But we have been very lucky in that respect. In no other sense, Chelsea apart, has there been any conviction. If we do finish second and get the draw we all fear - it's game over AGAIN !

  6. David

    Nov 24, 2016, 23:03 #94990

    The difference in Groudhog Day, is that Bill Murray realized he had to change what he was doing in order to move on. Waking up to the same inevitable day forced him to do something new. If it were AW instead, everyday he would wake up with a big, warm smile on his face: different season, same shizzle, £8,000,000. Ta very much.

  7. mbg

    Nov 24, 2016, 22:54 #94989

    Bard, Exeter Gunner, good points, just another way of TOF sticking two fingers, or one, up at fans who demanded he spend and forced him to, just playing these players one at a time or not at all, this arrogant old fraud really hates taking advice and/or been told what to do. wenger out.

  8. mbg

    Nov 24, 2016, 22:34 #94988

    Roy, that's another name for the long list of who can replace him for the ABK's to add to they're list when they ask their stupid question. wenger out.

  9. Ebor Gooner

    Nov 24, 2016, 22:24 #94987

    A clever man once said "it's not the despair that gets you, it's the hope". And how true that is. Towards the end of last season I eventually came to terms with the fact that this group of players, under this Manager will not win the EPL or CL. So, whilst I'm still interested in the results, it no longer rules my life, to the extent that my mood is dictated by ourperformance. Sure I've lost my passion, but I can enjoy our victories, without building up my hopes that "this will be our year". I gues I'm just marking time, until we have a change of Manager. The big question is - will that change reignite my passion, or has it gone forever?

  10. Peter

    Nov 24, 2016, 21:13 #94986

    Here are some quotes from Wenger afetr the game:- 1)"Well, I think we have put the intensity into the game and overall I believe that we were committed, for periods dominant". YES YOU SHOULD BE COMMITTED. THERE WAS NO INTENSITY ESPECIALLY IN MIDFIELD. JUST LET THEM RUN THROUGH USE SO MANY TIMES. 2)"It was difficult for us to find the right positioning on the pitch from the start". DOES HE NOT GIVE THE TEAM INSTRUCTIONS???? Then Carl Jenkinsone stated this:-. "I feel like, for the majority of the game, we were the better team and we could have won it and I think we were the stronger team so it’s a bit disappointing when you haven’t won". Did he not see the winger go past him everytime and maybe he should have been on the bench to see the real view of the game, like we did from the stands. PSG should have won by 3/4 goals at least. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF WE COME FIRST OR SECOND WE WILL NOT WIN THIS CUP IN A THOUSAND YEARS.

  11. Bunting14

    Nov 24, 2016, 20:45 #94985

    We seem to win the calendar trophy every year without winning the league

  12. CORNISH GOONER

    Nov 24, 2016, 20:37 #94984

    Blimey, & so it goes....on & on & on & on.....season after season. I am sorry any AKBs out there &, being an old guy myself know how much respect is due to us oldies, but disrespecting OGL is all we have left. The Wigster is perfectly happy with the status quo. Therefore for me it's the return of ARTHUR WEBSTER because it just makes me feel SO much better & the old duffer does not now deserve one ounce of the fawning respect, unbelievably, still being given him by our medis. To quote Big Phil Hammond - he certainly isn't MATCH FIT anymore.

  13. Redshirtswhitesleeves

    Nov 24, 2016, 20:10 #94982

    Ron- likewise mate, 2008 for me when I gave up the season ticket, never been back since and not intending to under the current set up. Hoping one day we will get our club back but not holding my breath!

  14. Big Dave

    Nov 24, 2016, 19:59 #94981

    Would Steve Bould get a job at any other club ?

  15. Allen

    Nov 24, 2016, 19:55 #94979

    Lord Help us but some people would believe anything that theyre fed from 'them on high'. Best calander year team? Dear oh dear oh dear. The Eds general analysis is accurate but the belief that the manager is 'withdrawing', is realising and accepting of his inadequacies and is preparing for the end of his days is wishful thinking, I fear. Kev you should read the passages from you're own book about Wengers life(or rather total absence therof) outside football before concluding that he he's contemplating stepping down. He is a 67 year old man, doing the same job for 20 years and is paid close to 10m a year. In the most volatile of environments Wenger is in the entirely unique situation whereby he is under less pressure to deliver a high standard of work than probably the vast majority of people that post on this website. His life is the training ground at Arsenal. Why would he jeopradise all of this to take a huge pay cut, operate in a stressful, unknown environment and face repeating the process in six months after he's been sacked. The mistake people make is to momentarily forget themselves and think of Arsenal as a football club and Wenger as an ordinary football manager. Arsenal are no longer a football club, nor do they even resemble one. Ditto the Manager.

  16. Alsace

    Nov 24, 2016, 19:43 #94978

    The truth is that in the Champions League, we are the Brighton and Hove Albion or possibly Reading of the competition. We can give it a go, but we are not really good enough, and part of that is that ridiculous high line and other abrogations of standard rules of football as advocated by OGL. We could get it done possibly because the players are not bad, but our coaching stinks. PSG were much better than us and even they aren't good enough to win the competition either. I greatly enjoyed the new age poseur stinking the place out.

  17. mbg

    Nov 24, 2016, 19:17 #94976

    GS, good post, feared ? these big clubs (along with the rest)love playing us.

  18. david mcphillips

    Nov 24, 2016, 19:00 #94975

    Very good article, Wenger is a facilitator of players and lets them figure things out themselves; thats great when you have Viera, Gilberto, Henry, Pires, Adams in the team but not so great when Coquelin is your centre mid. The teams looks clueless on how to win the ball back, whether to press or stand off and end up doing neither. Im not so sure we can even say this player or that player should play because ultimately under Wenger the same problems present- poor intensity starting games, lack of concentration, unsure of game plan when out of possession. Coached, well drill teams know what to do.

  19. GS

    Nov 24, 2016, 18:44 #94974

    "Best calendar year team" ..... What does that mean ?? Pointless statement made to comfort a losing mentality . Unbeaten in 18 , fair enough , will it win us PL or CL , er, No.

  20. Seven Kings Gooner

    Nov 24, 2016, 18:24 #94971

    The players reflect their manager, why worry about a few medals when after a 5 year spell at Arsenal it will mean most of our "Stars" will have earnings in excess of 30 - 40 million pounds. Wenger earns more money than many managers who are much better than him tactically and have more hunger so why stress yourself if the people who pay these stupendous sums of money are happy!

  21. jjetplane

    Nov 24, 2016, 17:48 #94970

    On the plus side Ospina looks the complete warrior with that mohawk and would love to see Olly and Theo with the same. Other news is that santi is now learning hotel management skills in the Barcelona area and there is a fight fight fight going on on Untold. Cyber punches being thrown everywhere and 'streaming' Walter from Belgium trying to calm things. The Sanchez dive is worst than anything from Costas. AKBs certainly do not like Wrighty and perhaps that is why Simon left him out of the 100 club. Oh well - back to Untold - ****ing great! Hoy Leekie! Let's be having yer! lol! Cannot believe how quickly fanz (sic) have forgotten Mesut's goal - fickle .....

  22. mbg

    Nov 24, 2016, 17:24 #94969

    Yes this Arsenal are undefeated since the start of the season crap we keep hearing being spouted by the wengerites trying to defend him looks good on paper and sounds good when said fast, and it makes their messiah look good, and/but that's all it does, look, everybody else knows better, you couldn't make it up.

  23. mbg

    Nov 24, 2016, 16:05 #94968

    Bob, no better post for the first one, and post of the day. Your dead right, and I'm glad to say there is a more ambitious fan base. Specialist in failure out.

  24. 71guns

    Nov 24, 2016, 15:48 #94967

    The point is we are wasting our time, regurgitating what's already been said a thousand times, I'm sure if we looked back at comments over the years they'd look 'copy and pasted'... We qualify every year, pipping the spuds and have little party - the group stage begins and we start huffing and puffing, sometimes we're genuinely unlucky but whatever the reason we always fall short, ability/ mentality or a bit of both we never (apart from 2006 final) look like we can win it. What difference does it make if we finish first or second in the group - at best we're only prolonging going out! Without jumping on the Wenger bandwagon (yes i do think his time is up) what did he say to them at half time yesterday? Or against Spurs or Utd? Why is it when one player has an off day 3 or 4 others do too and always in the bigger games? I agree the crowd were a bit lackluster but after 25 mins yesterday they had every reason to be, we were terrible and paying through the nose to witness it, misplaced passes, Sanchez running around like a lunatic, Theo proving the manager wrong by not starting him N-O-T! I didn't realise until the commentator mentioned Ozil (after about 20 mins) was even on the pitch, PSG were in control, they needed a point and got it and as mentioned their centre forward should have had 3 or 4. Why are the team not learning? Why after the disappointing performance against Spurs are we not raring to go against a very beatable Utd? It's not solely Wenger's responsibility to lift the team but nothing seems to change - Bould couldn't be less animated in his chair if he tried (and according to Merse's trilogy of literature) a wallflower he ain't! Much is said about the gargantuan wage bill for all concerned and off the back of that is a comfort zone - of course no-one will ever care as much as the fans but all we ask is that the ones holding the fort care enough, enough to do better after a poor performance, to leave the pitch with hump after a defeat (opposed to laughing and swapping shirts with the opposition before a few drinks and a club) I think Arsene does care but he's past it, like Thierry, Dennis, Plug - no longer play because they're too old, can a manager not get too old? Steve Davis (snooker) wasn't as good in his forties - eyesight maybe? Or maybe everyone else had caught up with his revolution in the early 80's... Ferguson had dips along the way but always came back stronger because he had passion, determination, money to spend and wasn't afraid to spend it. Stan Kroenke doesn't care about the football club and probably couldn't name our starting 11, some might argue that's not important but when you see how differently the club is perceived by the stuffed shirts and the fans at the AGM you realise gulf between priorities...

  25. mbg

    Nov 24, 2016, 15:48 #94966

    God only knows what syndicate these nice boys are under the influence off, they're not going to win them much (best hair doos maybe) that's for sure, or what their under the influence off, certainly some sort of alcohol as they're always going sideways and backward (maybe it's in the face cream) with an old past it manager on the bench rocking back and forth. wenger out.

  26. Ron

    Nov 24, 2016, 15:23 #94965

    Redshirts.... yr post made me smile, but so succinctly and accurately put. I got to where you are in 2010 and signed off.

  27. chris dee

    Nov 24, 2016, 15:22 #94964

    Ahh diddums!Our precious 'superstars',yet again shrivel and shrink when playing against any team that has a bit of quality and is not overawed by our outstanding,brilliant,awe inspiring football (so we are told). And will the Online Ed stop his constant unjustified attacks on Carl Jenkinson.He is a better full back than flaky Debussy and if the rest of the players had his passion for the club then we wouldn't be such a bunch of wimps under pressure. In days gone by we had a full back who was just average but determined and brave, and with the right defensive coaching became an Arsenal captain and great,Pat Rice. And take my word for it Jenkinson is a better player than Pat was,but the right defensive coaching?Not a chance.

  28. Redshirtswhitesleeves

    Nov 24, 2016, 15:17 #94963

    When oh when is this purgatory going to end? We are complete ****e, so predictable and complacent. The only aspiration at our club is to strive for further mediocrity. Given our financial power and everything else this club has going for it, I think we are the biggest underachievers in football. But what chance have we got with a manager that refuses to lay it all on the line, buy the players we need, spend the available money and open himself up to judgement? There is zero pressure on him from the money obsessed owner, the climate at that club is so safe and boring, producing endless groundhog seasons of complete and utter tedium. What top club would settle for jenkinson and Gibbs as full backs? Walcott, ox, Ramsey and the rest of the haircut and beard grooming brigade? Completely out of their depth at the top level. What was the point of buying Xhaka if he can't get in the side ahead of a middling journeyman like Coquelin? I'm bored out of my nut with this endless cycle of **** being repeated time and time again. Wenger, gazidis, kroenke OUT

  29. Know Man

    Nov 24, 2016, 15:14 #94962

    One man escapes criticism again, Ozil. Sure, the team under performed, but Ozil just flatters to deceive. If he plays badly, it's everyone else's fault, never his. Ramsey at least tried, got into the opposing box, made tackles, was our most effective midfielder. Iwobi with another poor match, yet still picked ahead of Chambo. Mustafi seems to be making mistakes every match, however Wenger won't drop him, as he's got no balls to make difficult decisions. And let's hope we renew Ozils contract and make him the highest paid player at the club, he fully deserves it, yeah right.

  30. Ron

    Nov 24, 2016, 15:09 #94961

    Despite the clear limitations of many of the players in our squad, i thought that last nights game showed starkly, more than ever before that our teams never has the indiv or collective belief that they can win crunch games v decent teams. Their body language and general stiffness in all of their movements betrayed it so clearly last night. Theyre mentally overawed by all but the lesser light teams we meet. This can be partly attributable to the personality of certain individuals such as Ozil who ive always thought is naturally a shrinking violet type, Gibbs and Walcott et all others too. However, its a major flaw in Wengers and his coaching crew too. It has to be. They simply do not instil fervour or confidence in the players or give them reason to have any. Ive long thought not many actually buy into AFC type tip tap back heel flick and toe methods.

  31. Exeter Gunner

    Nov 24, 2016, 14:52 #94960

    John F - Wenger doesn't see it as his job to do anything about 'focus' or 'leadership' or any of those other intangibles. His job, so far as matches are concerned, is to choreograph the passing in training and decide before the match who'll be substituted on the 70th min based on hierarchy or who his laptop tells him is slightly fatigued. That's it.

  32. Dartford gooner

    Nov 24, 2016, 14:41 #94959

    Can't agree with you about Jenks, Mustafi had a poor game next to him which did not help.If we had spent the money on Van Dijk in the summer i think the defence would have been much stronger. I would love to know why we paid all that money for Xhaka and leave him on the bench.Still no leader on the pitch, our world class play maker did very little again last night. Ground hog day again.The Velcro on Arsene and Boulds seats is still holding well.

  33. John F

    Nov 24, 2016, 14:28 #94958

    Last nights performance reminded me of the mid eighties team just before George took over.I wondered why Giroud was called the lamppost by some Gooners then I saw why.During the second half he lost control of the ball in the centre circle which luckily made its way to Ozil who then ran with the ball going forward. Instead of offering an outlet for Ozil he stood static in the centre circle turning his back to the play doing an impression of a lamppost and berating I think Ramsey for a poor pass,eventually he looked over his shoulder just in time for the ball to be lost.As Wenger repeatably says "the team lacked a little bit of focus" but then does nothing about it.

  34. Bonzo

    Nov 24, 2016, 14:00 #94957

    Piss poor preparation ensures piss poor performance. Who's to blame 1: Wengo; 2: Imbecile supporters like Jamee and Leekey. End of Report...

  35. Bard

    Nov 24, 2016, 13:58 #94956

    gnasher81. where we finish is largely irrelevant as we wont progress anyway. Its the quality of last nights performance that is the issue. We are supposed to have the strongest squad in years. Not turning up like we did in the first half is unacceptable. If the manager cant organise and galvanise a side for a night like last night then questions have to asked about his competence.

  36. gnasher81

    Nov 24, 2016, 13:47 #94955

    This season, like very few before it, finishing top of the group actually means very little when you look at the way the draw is set to come out. With current standings, finishing second in Group A would mean being drawn against either Benfica, Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, Monaco, Dortmund or Juventus Finishing top of the group would give us potential opponents of Napoli, Bayern, Leverkusen, Real Madrid, Porto or Sevilla Luck of the draw could be a disaster no matter where we finish, or it could also be equally kind.

  37. 1971 Gooner

    Nov 24, 2016, 13:42 #94954

    Spot on Kev; the only plus for me is that we were marginally less awful than we were against Man Utd at the weekend. I can't understand why in the absence of Santi (who as usual is much missed) we are not seeing Xhaka start. He has a much better range of passing than any of Ramsey, Elneny and Coquelin, which is what Santi brings to the team.

  38. Clarky

    Nov 24, 2016, 13:27 #94953

    Anyone else there last night notice how disinterested most of the crowd were? Even at 2-1 up it was like a morgue. It was as though everyone knew there was no way we were going to hold to the lead. I think everyone, even the man himself, know this is the end for Wenger and although I hate to say this, thank the Lord.

  39. Ron

    Nov 24, 2016, 13:20 #94952

    Highbury Boy - youre right, BT coverage is poor, of all sport, not just its football. Wright however was spot on (for once)with his summation of that garbage last night and AFCs overall performances this Season. MK is an Arsene apologist supreme and rarely does he stare reality in the face before he comments on us. He tries to be objective and reasoned but is so pc he s ludicrous. His loyalty to AFC puts blinkers on him like no other pundit in my view.

  40. Jude

    Nov 24, 2016, 13:09 #94951

    Thank you for calling attention, Kevin, to Ramsey. It was another abject 90 minutes from him. How much more evidence is needed that he's not good enough? He offers nothing apart from backward and sideways passes. There's an undoubted correlation between our slow, ponderous midfield play of late and his return to the team. Meanwhile, Xhaka sits on our bench. It beggars belief.

  41. Highbury Boy

    Nov 24, 2016, 12:48 #94950

    Missed my first CL match for many seasons so had to watch on TV. Big advantage about being there is you don't have to listen to inane comments from Keown who was a vg centre back but useless commentator. I turned the sound off in the end. Also in the studio were Wright and Owen, 2 brilliant strikers who are equally poor. BT commentators are rubbish .

  42. Wear Your Colours

    Nov 24, 2016, 12:06 #94949

    I thought that was one of the poorest team performances I’ve seen by Arsenal for ages. It reminded me of one of those evenings in the Neill/Howe era when choruses of “What a load of Rubbish” would echo around a half-empty Highbury. Only Gibbs and Ospina played anywhere near their potential. The only positive is that we can hardly play any worse, so there is plenty of room for improvement in this week-ends fixture against Bournemouth. COYG!

  43. Exeter Gunner

    Nov 24, 2016, 11:58 #94948

    A third of the season gone and no sign of progress on last season (or the last decade). None whatsoever. In fact only good fortune has allowed this team to stand still. The much heralded big spending of last summer that was supposed to signal change - Wenger only plays one of these players. 'Marking time' is right. Just a question whether it's 6 months or 3 years.

  44. Paulo75

    Nov 24, 2016, 11:58 #94947

    Very flat performance to go with Saturdays non event. Midfield is screaming out for creativity, would give the Ox and Xhaka a run out from the start on Sunday. We need to be planning for Cazorla's replacement as Ramsay and Wilshere are obviously not up to the job.

  45. Ron

    Nov 24, 2016, 11:48 #94946

    Hi Kev - Arsenal have rode their luck all Season havent they. Its been incredible how theyve avoided defeat against lesser lights like Burnley and Boro, never mind the PSGs of this World. With the luck they had last night, it make you wonder if they might win a title/ CL double doesnt it!!. They were always known as 'lucky Arsenal' in the 30s. Its back obviously. The Sanchez dive was cringeworthy. The 'one two' off the defender for the 2nd goal was true 'Barca lite' though. 4th and the eventual thumping in the CL knock outs beckons. Truly dont know how anybody can still defend this Coach and his teams after all these years of the same old tedium. Positively, average and certainly all rather boring for quite some years. AW really should resign in May.

  46. Charles Charlie Charles

    Nov 24, 2016, 11:45 #94945

    The only zip displayed last night was on Arthur's rather fetching jacket - perhaps he could accessorise with a nice pair of gloves so he doesn't have to sit on his hands all evening?

  47. Tony Evans

    Nov 24, 2016, 11:43 #94944

    Hi Kevin - your last line sums it up perfectly -'the passion has gone, and we are just marking time'. My Arsenal passion disappeared down a Wenger created hole years ago, and I have been marking time for what seems like an eternity. Please God, make this his final year! The fact we are unbeaten since day 1 of the season and are still in the LC and CL says more about the quality of the opposition than it does about us, and only serves to muddy the waters; meaning Wenger and his team of lightweights get away with performances like last night and the one at OT all too easily.

  48. Paul

    Nov 24, 2016, 11:32 #94943

    No improvement on that shambles at OT.Paris over the two games were miles superior to us.Cavani was terrible any half decent centre forward would have scored a hat-trick as PSG cut us open time and time again.Can you imagine our defence v Messi Suarez and Ronaldo?.How has it come to this that Jenkinson who was never good enough before is now back in the team he is so out of his depth.What has Xhaka done?If he cant get into our team ahead carthorse Coquelin he needs to start thinking about his Arsenal future.Left out v Utd and PSG makes you wonder why we spent £35m on him.Sadly Ozil failed to turn up again.He gets rave reviews when we play the weak teams buts its games like last night when you at least expect him to turn up.Starting Giroud was a disaster his movement was like a guy carrying a piano on his back.As we always say in Europe when we play any half decent team i expect nothing more this season.Last year we had our chance to win the title we blew it this year we are against 5 other teams and not Leicester .Its 4th again.And hopefully Wenger win finally go

  49. Roy

    Nov 24, 2016, 11:26 #94942

    Another Manager in the opposition dugout we could have scouted. One who won 3 successive Europa Leagues on a fraction of the budget afforded to Wengo. You're dead right Kev, he has run out of ideas and marking time is all we are doing. ' End of days territory ' ? Couldn't have put it better myself, but we all knew some time ago that it was going to be like the death of a thousand cuts, didn't we ? The unbeaten run is irrelevant, we all know what's coming. Sad.

  50. GS

    Nov 24, 2016, 11:13 #94941

    Shambles of a performance, even with 2 gifted goals we could not find a way to win the game, team selection was poor ( should have rested Sanchez)and subs ineffective. It does not matter if we finish 1st or 2nd in group, what difference will it make, do we have the quality to beat anyone in the last 16, Instead of Arsenal being feared by others, we are fearful ?? tells you all you need to known... Groundhog season yet again...

  51. ianmac

    Nov 24, 2016, 11:08 #94940

    I couldn't have put it better myself Kevin, agree with everything you said. Performances lately have been awful. We used to be terrible without the ball and good with it. Now we are terrible without it and average with it. It has to be the manager, these are all his players. Just can't wait until the first game under a new manager just hope it's sooner rather than later.

  52. Gerry

    Nov 24, 2016, 11:05 #94939

    They told us we had to leave our home so we could compete with the euro elite. Ramsey, Gibbs, Jenks is what we are having to watch now instead of the world class players we were promised if we made the move, Jesus wept!

  53. Emilio Zorlakki

    Nov 24, 2016, 11:04 #94938

    Spot on Kevin!I could have written the piece myself!Ramsey 1st name on the teamsheet, regardless of what position. Scared to rest Sanchez.

  54. Bard

    Nov 24, 2016, 10:56 #94937

    Good post Kev. Yes Cavani could have had a sackful. I have posted before that we are poor as a defensive unit against the better sides. No shots on target in the first half says it all. Why did we pay £35m for Granit and leave him on the bench ? Im afraid its he same old same old. PSG arent even a top Euro side.

  55. Bob

    Nov 24, 2016, 10:53 #94936

    Arsenal have stagnated over the past decade. It does not represent progress in any way, shape or form. A more ambitious fan-base would have lost patience with the manager many years earlier. If "specialist in failure" had been coined by anyone but Mourinho, it would have resonated with the vast majority of us. Time to resurrect the banners, and be prepared to take on the dwindling AKBs once more.